The Best Sim Racing Wheel On Xbox And PlayStation For 2024

[@Kireth]

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[@GazMoby]

What was the blurry blob for when reviewing the Moza?

[@WH1XDY]

I was wondering that too

[@dioxvr7708]

The Moza r3 isn't out yet so the company may have asked them to blur it to not leak any features not yet showcased

[@PhpGtr]

@@dioxvr7708 Worst blur-job ever if so! LOL

[@rheon6699]

​@@PhpGtrblurjob😂😂

[@AverageFemboyIdiot]

@@PhpGtrblurjob is crazy

[@rashman9579]

Top tip for the G29 pedals. You can open the pedal assembly and swap the clutch and the brake pedals. Makes left foot braking alot more comfortable if you just use the paddle shifters and you’re using a driving rig like the Playseat Evolution.

[@fuzzy-daddy83]

I use the T248 on PS5, severely underrated, and always gets missed in comparisons like this. It's biggest selling point over my G29 is the pedals. It comes with the T3PM hall pedals as standard. No potentiometer issues like I had with the G29. Wheel quality could be better in terms of materials, but it's still a great wheel, but the pedals sell it, it's belt and gear combi give great feedback, and it can produce a lot of torque for a non DD wheel, especially for it's price.

[@Rich-pj9wv]

Yes the T248 is a great wheel and pedals especially for the price. I got mine for 220 quid a year ago off amazon. And yes it does often get left out for some reason.

[@karl343]

I was going to get the new CSL DD + but the way Fanatec is acting is like a company about to go bankrupt. They shouldn't be accepting any pre-orders until Sony approves the CSL DD+. Imagine Sony said it needed an emergency stop button, they would've to send every DD + back to the assembly line.

[@Kireth]

I don't know the full story here but surely they will refund?

[@tracklizard4018]

fanatec is acting like any company that hired a consultant on how they can make more money and is being overrun by chinese quality like everything else today. Cowardly new world.

[@23ograin53]

The reason Fanatec seems somewhat disorganized lately is not because they're going out of business (lol) it's because they have completely overhauled and upgraded their QR system and are transitioning to that over the next year. Probably why the current wheels and motors are being sold in bundles for stellar prices.

[@robertt9342]

@@23ograin53. The last part of your comment doesn’t seem to jive with the rest of it. It also sounds exactly like the Fanatec marketing spin. Maybe they are fine, they should at least stop acting like they aren’t.

[@grim_reaper1601]

Hang in there, I had lost all faith, waited months many emails etc. But I can happily report they refunded the total amount, which was 1300 odd. I'm nervous as hell, as I've not had a wheel for nearly 6 months. Need to get another ASAP and unfortunately cause I need it for Gt7 I'm going to have to buy from fanatec again, logitech wheel don't impress me unfortunately, so to say I'm nervous is an understatement 🙁

[@jimbobmcgee]

To touch on the Fanatec delivery stuff: I ordered a bunch of bits a couple of weeks ago (Universal Hub V2, GT wheel rim, CLS Pedal Tuning Kit & CLS DD Boost kit) and I had no issues at all with delivery to the UK. They sent everything out a couple of days after ordering, and the next week I had all but one of the items. That one item which didn't arrive with everything else was the wheel rim, and the issue was on UPS's end, but it only got delayed by an extra day due to some issue in one of their sorting hubs. Of course, my experience won't be the same for everyone, but I just thought I'd throw my recent experience out there.

[@jamtruck7252]

Ive been racing almost nonstop for 5 years on a controller. Im finding lots of excuses as to why i shouldnt get a wheel but it is something i fantasise about regularly! One day... Maybe....

[@Kireth]

Try one out!

[@lestercombs1871]

It’s time Son

[@Evo187]

its worth it when your playing alot but when you play 30min -1h a week, stick to the controller

[@MrKingNica]

Its game changing trust me. And I only have the t150

[@lachcurtis5503]

I reached out to Moza a while back, the ES wheel included in the R3 bundle will make other Moza DD bases Xbox compatible. I plan on buying the R3 bundle and upgrading the base and pedals over time. Fanatec seems too risky at the moment 🤷‍♂️

[@deebocj]

Moza doesn't have the r3 available right now.

[@AverageFemboyIdiot]

Isn’t available and fanatec is better option for Xbox

[@nighttrain1565]

That's a cool room, cathedral ceilings, exposed brick and supports. Looks like a pretty cool little spot!

[@Kireth]

My sim racing den!

[@buddy5088]

100% agree. I have the Logitech g pro and Simucube sport. Love true force on games that support it. They need additional wheels asap!!

[@leightonblake6907]

I've got the Logitech pro the only downside is you they don't make different wheels only standard Would love to see a GT3 wheel or even a F1 wheel this would take it to the next level

[@koshikkeshav]

Thanks for the video. Please ask Logitech when they may launch different style wheels? It would be great if they had a formula style wheel to expand the economy system.

[@numishunterv9015]

Please ask if there’s a pro shifter in the works as well!

[@Kireth]

As soon as I can say I will have a video up on this channel!!

[@kurtspencer4631]

Plenty of aftermarket wheel kits. takes a little work but definitely an improvement.

[@grahamkelly8662]

@@kurtspencer4631for g pro? Where?

[@Mosesbullock33]

I ordered a csl dd + at the start of 23 and I got it delivered to me in 1 week in Australia

[@nighttrain1565]

Wow thanks for that added bit about the Tru Force. I was about to buy a fanatec DD But keep hearing people rave about the fidelity of the true force on the Logitech g pro and I couldn't make up my mind but I guess the choice is obvious now

[@Kireth]

Lots of added immersion!!

[@henryedwardo8450]

Did Moza direct you to blur the video of the R3?

[@Rockhoppr3]

Been thinking of getting a wheel as a casual racer, so ive been looking for one that is cheap but still decent quality. Primarily torn between the Thrustmaster t300 and Logitech g29. This is a very helpful vid 💜

[@Kireth]

Thanks hope it helps!!

[@Yengamer]

I had both and only kept the t300, it offers a better experience overall.

[@josematasol3809]

Absolutely agree, if you’re comparing those two the t300 is better but also about 100$ more expensive (where I am) 👍🏼

[@illumineddiie]

I started out with a Thrustmaster T300RS & the Playseat challenge seat. After seeing that I fell in love with sim racing and wanted to get a better setup I upgraded to the Logitech G Pro w/ pro pedals and mounted them on the Playseat Trophy and I’m am extremely happy with the setup! The true force feedback on the wheel adds so much to the experience and is even strong enough so send some of that throughout my seat. & the Playseat trophy seat has soooo many different seating and pedal position options that as long as you take the time to set it up you’ll find something really comfortable for racing.

[@BreadNoBrim]

Don’t buy a play seat

[@speedbump9068]

What system do u use with the G pro, PS5, xbox or pc?

[@illumineddiie]

@@speedbump9068 PS5, racing on Gran Turismo 7

[@mi66ami6]

Logitech g pro system is absolutely brilliant! Love it 100% , wish they had more wheels tho, I want a gt style wheel for it really bad. Not a deal breaker for me tho, since the wheelbase and the d shaped wheel are really good anyways. Trueforce in gt7 definetly gives you a extra layer of information through the wheel.

[@glh280]

I am so glad someone finally explained clearly and within the first minute that I needed the fantec wheel base with an Xbox wheel. I have been looking for that piece of information to be confirmed for months! Thanks 🙏

[@Dzasmina2304]

Thanks Kireth, big variety of wheels explained! Very useful 👍

[@Kireth]

No problem!!

[@tnutt666]

with out watching im gonna say logi pro wheel cuz thats the one i use and i love it

[@atflores85]

Logi pro and gt7 is heaven.

[@Kireth]

Hang on!

[@richh9241]

I've ordered the G Pro today having thought about what to buy for my new rig for months. Reason I've gone with the G Pro - It's got the power with 11 NM's, loadcell pedal, Trueforce, and most importantly - I trust the vendor. Having read and watched literally countless horror stories about the market leader, I'm not prepared to take that risk. Will I regret it? We shall see, I might also have regretted going with Fanatec. It sounds like the G Pro is solid, and it just works. That's what I want. Time will tell. Thanks for all of your videos.

[@grahamkelly8662]

How did it go with Logitech? I’m still undecided.

[@peterbrix8077]

I’ve got the Logitech G Pro and OMG it is fantastic, I only wish it would get more media recognition that it deserves.

[@grahamkelly8662]

I believe it’s probably great but does not deserve more attention because Logitech treated customers so bad. Nearly 2 years old No wheels No handbrake No proper shifter No nothing Really sad but I don’t think it will change.

[@RaviSingh-ph2uw]

Thank you so much Kireth, I have amassed all this information over the years but it’s nice to have it all in one spot so I can get everything straight, have a G923 but keep wanting to upgrade to a Fanatec but you saying that the Logitech Pro is your go to and Fanatec acting a bit iffy right now has definitely helped my decision, thanks again Bud!

[@storypunman]

We went with the Logitech G pro wheel and pedals on a GT Omega ART cockpit for PlayStation. Love everything, but ART cockpit could use some extra supports to reduce flex. No stock at GT Omega for those support bars.

[@boziewz6125]

Ive gotta say, im using the g920, its the first wheel ive had, and i think its an absolutely great starting place. Im sure after time and practise, it may be worth spending that bit more, but itll either be the cammus, or the fanatec around the 5-8nm area. I shouldnt think ill need any more than that.

[@Kireth]

Great wheel!

[@andrewgoldsmith9764]

ahhh man why is this so difficult! its taking me months to save up for the GTDD PRO but the way fanatec are im just plain scared to splash the cash! I'm on PS5 GT7 and ACC HELP!! great info as usual kireth 👍👍👍

[@Kireth]

Don't rush it 😅😅

[@hip62]

Cheers Kireth I have severe anxiety disorder took me ages to order a GT DD pro and spend out. Now find out they've got my 900 plus quid and I have to wait with it saying transfer to warehouse, UPS have a tracking number. Obviously the anxiety is through the roof and my experience of levelling up has been pissed on

[@Kireth]

Sorry to hear that mate but hopefully they come through!!

[@grahamkelly8662]

Did you get your order?

[@FocusST305]

That G923 is massively underrated with true force, the brake pedal is just right (i drive a car with braided lines and ceramic pads) and i just took to that brake pedal instantly. Sure, it's no DD but it's a fantastic budget wheel, even better if you mod the pedals to be inverted. The only downside is that little deadspot at the centre position. This is probably due to it being geared. I'd LOVE the PS5 DD pro, i just can't push myself just yet even though i know it'll be much better. I just find the G923 to meet 90° of my needs. The feel of loss of traction is pretty cool. Again, i know it's no DD but that doesn't take away from it's abilities especially at it's price point 🫡

[@FocusST305]

PS i have the G923 for PS5 and combined with GT7 is very very good

[@Kireth]

GREAT starter option!!

[@frizzlefry1921]

Yeah that is pretty much what I've settled on ps4 pro and got gt7 about 2 weeks ago... nerve damage and controller sticks don't mix well.

[@FocusST305]

% not ° 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@xtremereflections9853]

Agree but the gear driven tech is noisy af lol. But it's a great wheel with good forced feedback for the price

[@myleskrummen4573]

I’ve always thought about the Logitech rim problem🤔 they literally make McLaren f1 teams wheel (as you said) so why don’t they make a replica? Hardcore fans would be crazy over that.

[@gholl5854]

Hi Kireth, thanks for another great vid. Logitech do actually sell separate wheel rims now, they can be used on an Xbox, with a playstation wheel base when set to PC mode.👍

[@NoHacksTSR]

Why is there a big blurred blob when you review the moza wheel? You talk it up but blur it out ?

[@FunFactsAboutTech]

Logitech G Pro in games that support trueforce is basically an otherworldly experience. Nothing from the other main players matches it. They just need more steering wheels and I'm pretty sure they're coming this year

[@Cwomack07]

If you’re in the US at least Logitech gives you an automatic discount wheel you get the PS or Xbox wheelbase and pedals together. It stacks with other discounts as well and they give 2-3 day shipping with it at no add cost. Obviously I’m in the Logitech camp but it’s been totally legit experience 9 months in now. Also truly if you like the haptic feedback of the dual sense controller the Trueforce takes it up another level of your installing the Pro into a rig.

[@The_BenboBaggins]

Love the look of your sim-space! Thanks for taking the time to make this video, right now it's confirmed my idea to go with the Logitec G-Pro when the time comes!

[@mi66ami6]

Good call, even though it has no wheel options atm, it's an amazing wheel and wheelbase. Bought it at release and been heavily using works like brand new, not a single issue with it.

[@talon1706]

You will enjoy it. I do.

[@Aaron-yn4bk]

Bro! Thank you for the review. I just bought the wheel and pedals for PS5. I used your code and got the wheel for $849 and pedals for $296! Wow! great discount. Thank you! Can't wait to use this set up.

[@Shrnirpledorp]

How f kin much 😂 ye im over it

[@gabrielglenn1714]

What are your thoughts on Logitech G pro pedals? I’d like to try a different set but pretty sure you cannot. Thx!

[@SWestlake88]

Its not the "CSL DD+" that hasn't been approved by Sony, its the ClubSport DD+. The GT DD Pro is the PS5 equivalent to the CSL DD, and it has been working great for the past year. That said... yes, Fanatec's customer service is completely trash right now... really sad to see them falling so far...

[@Yuta3677]

Im planning on buying the t300 rs gt. Is there any other wheel that is better than that one for a similar price, I want it for Grand turismo and f1 23’

[@stevemufford7873]

Kireth how would you compare logitech trueforce to the new thrustmaster t598 ?

[@amazedrocket6666]

Thanks man I really needed a new racing wheel 😂

[@Kireth]

😅😅

[@dove187]

I plan to play gt7 on ps5 only. Do you recommend the fanatec csl dd, thrustmaster tg-2 or???

[@Breal01]

Logitech dd pro if you have the extra money for what you want to use it for is the way to go.

[@manelman100]

Hey man great video, quick question im about to upgrade from a g923 to a moza r3 can i add a shifter and e brake to the r3 using xbox?

[@Mancitydiehard]

Hey Kireth since I have a fanatec dd and McLaren wheel for racing. Would u recommend the wrc wheel for drifting? Or is it just not up to par with other fanatec wheels?

[@Kireth]

Uhhh I think normal P1 will be better!

[@Mancitydiehard]

@@Kireth appreciate it and I hope Forza come to u for help cause I want that game to be good again

[@georgepattinson9251]

I have the Thrustmaster 248 and just bought Logitech G920 and I'm impressed with the Logitech

[@steveswanproductionstt6355]

Thanks for this video. I have the logitech dd pro on order, but started having doubts after reading some people reviews, after your video I'm exited again.

[@MikeRay1978]

I have had one for a year. It’s absolutely fantastic. The single only negative I can say is there’s no good shifter you can use with it and no e brake at all. That I know of anyway.

[@FocusST305]

Does the G pro have the same pedals as the G923 buddy, and is the plug the same? As mentioned, I've modified mine and i'd like to retain them if possible, if not is the brake pedal the same? I don't mind re-modifying. I kinda fancy that Pro now 🤭

[@FocusST305]

And that discount code is handy 🫡

[@Kireth]

Uhhh you can use the same or get the g pro load cells

[@FocusST305]

@@Kireth Thanks buddy, i think the load cell is a much better option after watching a few videos specifically on that wheel.

[@jbirdsworld8537]

Are you psychic? 😂 I'm in the market for a new wheel, my fanatec mclaren broke the day before you made the video on their customer service skills 😂😂

[@Kireth]

damn!

[@jbirdsworld8537]

@Kireth was having the race of my life too! Started 12th, got up to 2nd, 3 laps to go and the shifters stopped working, had to finish the race stuck in 6th gear ffs 😂😂

[@holden4ever]

I currently have a G920 and I have to disagree about the pedals. The brake pedal does not feel good. I have my max deadzone set to 70 (in FM) to avoid full brake pedal travel but I still don't have much confidence to brake as hard as I might need to. I'm planning on upgrading to the Fanatec CSL DD McLaren bundle + load cell brake pedal in the next few months.

[@giogamer4825]

I have only 1 wheel, but love it on ACC and F1! That is the Fanatec Formula V2,5

[@AutisticMan78]

Always enjoy your vids sir. I just bought the csl dd because it’s great for the price, I fancied the Logitech’s g pro but couldn’t justify £1200 for a wheel it’s way to much unless you do what u do but for me fanatec win win.

[@tracklizard4018]

Are there any cheap DD wheelbases that either doesn't come with a "quick release", or where the quick release can be bolted off using a standard 6x70 bolt pattern? I just want a wheelbase that doesn't lock me to their "ecosystem" or where I have to pay a bunch of extra to bolt on a simple rally wheel which I already possess. I don't need a gaming quick release, I have a fia approved one that I can just bolt on if I wanted that. Currently running a t300 with a plastic adapter but I hate the delay, slow momentum, and mushyness that comes with a beltdriven wheel, and it clips a lot more than I'd like.

[@NeoGeo822]

Any thoughts on those T3pa Pro pedals in the back?

[@clclclclcl90]

Does the G Pro plug and play with the G29 pedals and shifter?

[@peterbrix8077]

No it doesn’t unfortunately

[@grahamkelly8662]

It doesn’t but you can use the converter. Sure this guy has reviewed it on channel.

[@luigidacosta1914]

Why would you blur the Moza?

[@TheSilvercue]

You can use a wheel without pedals, right?

[@Bornindafire]

Lets go....🎉 Loving your vids so far this year.. you are doing great work.... vid quality is always fire ..

[@GT_motorsport]

When you say that the CSL DD is compatihle with PS and XBOX you mean the GT DD PRO (wich is much more expensive then the CSL DD), right? Because on the site sais that the CSL DD is only compatible with PC...

[@chrisdettanascar9264]

What motor base are you using?

[@StaticChe]

So what will be the best wheel to get for my Xbox series x?

[@Kireth]

Hold out one more week!

[@metr0n0me1]

Is the Moza R3 even out yet?

[@gmc2638]

What’s the best f1 with ps4 compatibility?

[@robertcolceri1692]

Hello do you have a video on your wheel setup on Xbox?

[@jeanmakita3839]

I caught that started from the bottom the bottom now your there 😂😂😂😂. This helped me so much. Im a new racer, and ive been finishing top 5 in ACC lately, but i feel I need new wheel bundle as im using TM TMX (I know its old, but it was givem to me. Couldnt affor a wheel with 3 kids amd school!). Im doing good with the TMX. Is it worth spending 600 for a new wheel if im decently fast?

[@justinzippo7772]

Only problem with the moza is there unreleased wheel isn’t even compatible with crew motor fest farming sim 22 only older games like crew 2 horizon 5 and older farm sim games

[@001sander2]

Dumped Fanatec, went with the GPro and couldn’t be more pleased 🙂

[@BIGGIEBAG-XL]

What made you leave fanatec?

[@001sander2]

@@BIGGIEBAG-XL Their horrendous customer service.

[@1872959]

Best cockpit for the Logitech G Pro?

[@Kireth]

Personally I use the GT Omega Prime

[@Acompony]

Nice review video !

[@Kireth]

Thanks man!!

[@SennaMotorsports]

Currently rocking the G923 for xbox amd PC.. just waiting for the R3 to go live 😍

[@Britishdumber]

If moza releases the Xbox es steering wheel,then you can use any moza base, I would say go for the r5, if not I’m sure the r3 will be nice

[@georgepattinson9251]

You can change the wheel on the G290 there's a KZbin video telling you how

[@terdog3463]

I'm stlll using my old Logitech G27 wheel. It's still a very solid wheel.

[@benloooo]

Will you Test the turtle beach veloticyone race?

[@bgdaddy42069]

i havent had problems with my moza r9 v2 with cs wheel but i hard in group and discord that moza service is hit and miss but im not sure i havent had one problem yet. they say if your getting moza get it from a retailer so return and rma are easier

[@Michael27Romero]

Will podium bmw wheel work on Xbox

[@typer98]

If you put the xbox wheel on the ps Logitech G Pro base it works on everything

[@heinous70]

I bought a new wheel every time Logitech came out with something better. The last of which what's a G29 and I bet it's almost 10 years old now. It's got about half as many years in normal use, and it's been apart once for repair, and it was literally a loose screw. I remember when it and my playseat we're cutting edge. Helical gears were the big deal. It was quiet. People were blown away by a simulator in your livingroom back then. Now the G29 is considered entry-level.. and sim rigs are common. Makes me feel good that they still produce them. It does feel plasticky, but it is $300, and a lot of people spend more than that on a wheel alone now. I'll drop 1500 on something newer and better, when this thing catches on fire.. until then, what I don't know won't hurt me😂

[@questionable-06]

Can you use, say a logitech set of pedals with a thrustmaster wheel?

[@grahamkelly8662]

Pretty sure you can’t mix brands. Sure you can on pc thought but I’m not sure if you can mix and match all or some brands.

[@SumoDogs]

one thing u failed to mention was that moza have the proper FIA quick release which has no play unlike the fanatec

[@grahamkelly8662]

Apparently the new new Fanatec quick release is better but it’s about £90-£100 plus

[@bangybanks]

So Mozar3 wheel works on Moza R9,12,16 ???

[@flaviooki-10sai38]

Logitech G pro is the best for me. I cannot play anymore a sim that doesn't support True force. I'm addicted to the feeling of the true force ❤

[@Mancitydiehard]

McLaren fanatec wheel is amazing! Perfect for everything and even figured out how to drift with it! Would be better on a round wheel but still works!

[@Kireth]

Solid wheel!

[@jordy700]

Best one is Logitech pro wheel. No discussion about it. True force is really a game changer, until other brands come up with something similar it's the Logitech pro wheel al the way

[@grahamkelly8662]

I find it hard who to believe. Some say true force is great and others say it’s absolutely trash. I even see respected reviewer show true force on g pro and it sounded horrible. Nasty rattling sound.

[@KJB__]

Yes i want to know if the r9 or r12 now is xbox capable with ne r3 wheel

[@speedbump9068]

good video, looks like logi pro is best but dang its expensive, wish Moza was out for PS5.

[@Bornindafire]

I just ordered a pro wheel n pedal set..

[@kylemanning193]

I think I’m about to switch from G923 to the T300rs GT. I want a direct drive, but there’s nothing affordable for PS5

[@MapMonster25]

I'd recommend trying out the T300. I've been using my Thrustmaster TX (T300 for Xbox) for a good while now. The feel and strenght of the force feedback is a huge improvement to the G920. It's way smoother in delivery too. Just look out for overheating, it might become an issue. A better cooling fan resolved the issue for me.

[@Nolan1978]

Logitech Playstation base and Xbox wheel works on all three as well

[@chevyblazer215]

Here i am would be happy to have any ps setup. Controller getting old.

[@AFlyingSwive]

the G920 and G29 are the same other than supported console the G923 is noticeablely different but not worth it over a DD wheel

[@BabieBoiRay]

Why did you have moza blocked off

[@Silverturky]

The CSL dd is definitely not the same as the CSL elite and ur also confusing the CSL dd with the clubsport DD+ which is in a higher tier. You also forgot to mention the Gran Turismo DD pro which is a playstation compatible version of the CSL DD.. also you are slightly misrepresenting that Logitech g pro wheel because it's value proposition is terrible when you consider what it costs vs the size of other manufacturers ecosystems they don't even have any tangible plans to release new wheels for that system right now. So although it's nice that you were given one it's not the best option to start out with. Especially considering the pedal and wheel rim options that fanatec give you for the price. Ur a nice guy kireth but I think you missed the mark on this one there's not a lot of reliable info in here.

[@Kireth]

Good information!!

[@Silverturky]

@@Kireth love ya man! Keep it real

[@rashman9579]

“Hardly anyone knows about the Moza” Yeah, hardly anyone can see it either 🤔

[@Chill_Tunez]

Where is the Moza r3? it like doesnt exist when I try to buy it lol

[@davidvega1978]

Logitech has a rim ecosystem now.

[@Kireth]

Make sure you're getting the latest: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6Wql5eMg8l5kKcsi=DKX7uA8_l003Qf6c

[@AtariGaiden]

Where speed I don't understand purple dots per hour

[@Quontez]

Anybody know a good wheel for the crew motorfest? I’m a beginner and just want to cruise and race. Ps5

[@skyscreensky9972]

Logitech PRO Wheel is great at this moment. That's true. But they have to make an ecosystem.

[@LimuDaEmu]

Appreciate any feedback from anyone.... I'm on Xbox and my took a shit on me, I have been wanting to get the Moza R3 but they still are not yet available for order.... so I'm fighting between Logitech G923 or Thrushmaster T248... just want outside feedback and knowledge of which is best out of these 2 options.... thanks in advanced!

[@danielm7853]

If I were you I’d wait for the R3 it’s good to get your foot into the door with direct drive and when the time presents itself to upgrade the base to a higher NM then you will already be invested

[@LimuDaEmu]

@danielm7853 I understand that and that's the one i wanted... but they don't even have any release date or information on it and I've been waiting a month longer and I'm tired of using my controller. Thansk for the feedback but I'm just looking for which of the other 2 is the better option so I can get back to playing on a wheel

[@tomtom-iu4zs]

There's not much of a difference between the two. Thrustmaster is quieter and has the option to add a handbrake and shifter together. Logitech's louder due to being gear driven and can only add the shifter. The only thing I don't like about the t248 is the wheel rim being half plastic and half synthetic.

[@LimuDaEmu]

@@tomtom-iu4zs Its been hard to pick because I just keep seeing like a 50/50 split on them both lol... some say the pedals are better on one over the other, and I have seen some say the same thing about the t248 wheel feel. I play Forza Motorsport alot recently but will eventually get back I to ACC, do I know the "true force" isn't supported on FM.... Hopefully I can get a few more opinions, but I appreciate your feedback and taking time to respond!!

[@tomtom-iu4zs]

@@LimuDaEmu There's a setting on the thrustmaster that's like the true force on logitech. My friend has both wheels and can't tell the difference in feedback on gran turismo. If you're on console and not interested in adding a handbrake along with the shifter then it's really just personal preference or whatever one you can get cheaper.

[@scuttdamutt]

It is a lot of money to spend in gaming, if there was one system that worked with both consoles and PC it would be great. But to have to purchase essentially two systems to play on Xbox and PlayStation sucks.

[@Xerrea]

Please stop bashing fanatec. Ordered DD Pro last monday and this monday i got a mail from DHL, that is on the way. So it’s only one week wait.