The Best Things Coming to Star Citizen in 2024 (Ft. TheAstroPub) | Launch Sequence Podcast

[@pakhyeoncheol]

1:32:19 personally I came to SC because of starfield. It gave me a taste of “cool space game with some realism” and really prepared my brain for what star citizen is and why it’ll be fantastic when it can implement things like good outposts and quests. I must admit though I seem to spend 1-2 hours just trying to get in my ship and go somewhere in SC which made me appreciate how easy Starfield is to put down and pick back up for a parent or generally people with tight schedules

[@SpaceTomatoToo]

That's really the heart of that discussion, too. One game is a time taker, the other is a fun quick game to jump in and out of.

[@AbdiYohan]

@TheAstroPubLive and Space Tomato are always assured to make a great podcast. Thanks for making this happen, my friends. Great conversation. I'm with y'all. The personification of cautious optimism. Let's do this!

[@lunamaria1048]

Any video with our Lore Daddy is an insta watch for me! 😊❤

[@Keithsciguy]

I'll follow the lore father to the depths of hell if he's telling a star citizen story the whole way.

[@LucidStrike]

Regarding single player vs multiplayer: Multiplayer hasn't really interested me since like Halo 3, and I was never interested in MMOs or sim games really. But SC is exceptional in more ways than one. For a lot of people, I think the appeal of SC and SQ42 will override their usual sensibilities. We already see that with some of the newer people who would clearly prefer a more arcadey experience but have dived headlong into this LIFE SIM.

[@staceybertran52]

Wow what a rabbit hole.. From this discussion I herd the term UGF. Being new had no idea what that was. So went looking. Came back hr later to finish the discussion. OMG.. This MMO is so vast it will be massive once it comes to light fully and in the meantime. We are going to get cool little nuggets to keep us happy. Thanks so much for a great conversation.

[@LucidStrike]

The reality of swordfighting in actual history is that very few became very skilled, because skill advancement largely comes through practice and learning from failure - and failing in actual sword fights is pretty punishing. 😅 Point is, Arena Commander will be CRUCIAL for 'getting gud' in the PU without nosediving toward permadeth.

[@BlindAndDangerous]

Watching this video after CitCon 2024 and reliving the hope that 2024 would be the flood gate year is an interesting experience considering what actually happened in 2024. Or maybe it’s more appropriate to say considering the lack of things happening in 2024.

[@gprime8537]

Thanks everyone, looking forward to everything star citizen delivers in the new year!

[@MrTaco-zv6nh]

Hyped, but my copium is running out soon… (better refill 😂🎉)

[@SgtHack802]

I don’t expect a thing, that way I’m not disappointed. Backed in 2013.

[@FuriousImp]

Healthy attitude!

[@Katastra_]

This is the way

[@Brigadier_Beau]

I have always had faith in SC, but be wary of predictions. I have avoided being disappointed by ignoring predictions or adding at least a year to every prediction. I hope you are right, and I do believe we will get a lot in 2024, but to be excited for everything is setting yourself up for disappointment. Brigadier_Beaux

[@Whiskeyagogo519]

Cig flipped a switch and finally pulled a rabbit outta there hat .. and we were sooooo ready for more .

[@Keithsciguy]

Bruh what happened to you who hurt you?

[@Platinumsniper]

I think the most interesting thing about engineering is the possibility of being able to set up a chop shop or tuning shop and mod ships for other players.

[@DeltaPhoenix180]

2142 was the best BF of all time, i will die on this hill

[@FuriousImp]

Defo!!!!!

[@TheAstroPubLive]

Same

[@yzend2]

TOW will also help balance ground combat and ground vehicles.

[@dawnphantom2439]

Lol

[@zackn8745]

To a degree... on the large scale, especially given some of this games mechanics, logistics wins wars. TOW can def help balance some of the tactical aspects, but sustainability is a balance all of its own that really only shines in the PU. It would be tough for TOW to test those things as well. I would suspect some of the military platforms to perform better in TOW than the PU, but in the PU stuff that's easier to repair and rearm would be more attractive.

[@sidewithwerewolves]

the way i understand "distribution centers" are like mini-space stations on a planet. They might have done better calling them "towns" as opposed to the cities like Hurston, Microtech and Orison. underground facilities are probably going to be extensions of the bunkers and trade terminals we already have as they can keep adding more sub-basements and build them out like an anthill. really what i want to see is roads connecting the major landing hubs to distribution hubs/ secondary landing zones and missions are escort or deliver or even ground cargo missions. Try going to any landing site near Hurston and it's an exercise in frustration. With Rastar it's a huge miss opportunity.

[@amphialus222]

Woof, as a game dev the statement "it's not that hard" to ship arena commander or theaters of war to consoles is wackadoo. Unless you've been working for the entire project with that goal in mind, actually implementing as you go, porting a game to console is a nightmare. It's not just the QA and release stuff the astropub mentions as a caveat, it's integrating with Sony/microsoft login, social features, progression, it's building custom UI and control schemes for controllers, it's adding things like aim assist systems to fps gameplay, not to mention adressing the performance concerns of this incredibly unoptimized game to run on standard hardware. On top of that, you need a company with console experience. PC devs who don't actively ship to console would be way slow at all of those things I mention cause they have to learn how to do them first. Ty for the podcast, enjoyable to listen to and I am stoked for these new features. But clear from your mind the idea of any star citizen thing making it to console in the next decade!

[@Nicodemus_Archleone]

Here's to a hope filled year for this monster of a game.

[@SternLX]

27:35 Correction, Phantom Liberty was NOT a DLC. It was an Expansion. DLC is what the game got for patch 1.65(free DLC I might add) Also look up Project "Orion" for CP2077. It's basically Cyberpunk 2077 2.0. CDPR is not done with CP2077.

[@Platinumsniper]

I enjoy the tetris of cargo gameplay. I used to be a baggage handler at my local airport for years. I played baggage tetris a lot.

[@PandaGaming-pc2xv]

my thoughts from 18:00 is i ting its bc they have more ppl working on SC do to s42 almodt being done so they shifted more ppl to SC

[@abysswalker]

Great show. Thank you

[@Tiyrant]

I agree with @TheAstroPub on the naming of 'Distribution Centres' being a bit lame. I'd call them 'Frontier Citadels' or something. It would appear they're intended to have a commanding pressence on the immediate area.

[@Starbuck.Laniakea]

More often than not ... wormhole gates are usually depicted in space. I propose having a couple from planets ...

[@michaelphillips3148]

One thing you can add to these podcast style interview chats are a topic title area so we're all on the same page of what you and guest are talking about...

[@Mrs.Tomato]

While we do post the title to try a ND describe the episode, each video also has a description talking about what is being discussed as well as timestamps that Space Tomato custom places so you can jump to specific topics. Is there something else you are referring to?

[@brianhersey9745]

2016 was my first game package. I have been on a break for almost 2 years as I got so frustrated. I have come to see this game like an abusive relationship, I want to be excited about this year... but i have been hurt so many times before :( But back for three days and we'll see.

[@mattiber2558]

After the initial trips to Pyro, the pew-pewing will end and a normalcy will occur. The gangs will need travelers to buy, to sell, you will solo/multi-crew like anywhere(groups may need to watch their backs more, because they will make crime elements nervous)

[@latech7671]

Oke, I have a point specifically for the last question: Will SC become more Mainstream in 2024. YES, I think there is a really good chance but not in people actually playing it but simply in the awareness for Squadron 42 BECAUSE I think next year the chances are pretty good that we will get a release-date or at least a release windows of Squadron and I think that is the point when CIG will start the actual marketing campaign for SQ42 that reaches outside of the SC community. That means they will be specifically pushing for Squadron 42 to become mainstream so we will see it become more mainstream. For example: I am honestly pretty sure we will get a Squadron 42 Trailer at the GameAwards next year. I think if they can't give a date yet they will tell us at next years CC that Squadron 42 will release 2025 because that gives them quite a good span of time to still choose the exact date when they know more (except of course if they are not sure it will actually even hit 2025) and the moment they can give a release-date I think they can finally start the mainstream marketing because people NEED an actual date for anything SC-related otherwise the articles will come in again. GameAwards are at the very end of the year so by then I think there is a good chance we will have a release-window at least. Also, the GameAwards are pretty open about anything in the industry and are some of the only organizations who were pretty fast in sharing the "I Held the Line"-Presentation so I don't think CIG will have a problem showing of SQ42 there

[@llillian4055]

They should sell Theaters of War for $20 which gives a $20 store discount off a starter pack if you buy the full Star Citizen live game.

[@fredpowell3779]

Once SQ42 is done, then all the engine, AI tools and environments, and the entire base game are done. to make SQ42 The Terran Wars, or SQ42 The Lost Tevarin Wars will be a lot quicker, just the story, the motion cap and voice acting to do. So they can roll out as many single-player games as they wish, even a historical one with old ships re-enacting historical battles. they have a shit ton of lore to pull from.

[@jeffbangle4710]

I think the Theaters-Of-War/FPS modules could be bundled with the pure dog-fighting and racing modules of Arena Commander and sold as a stand-alone game. And since most of the development of a such game has already been funded via SQ42 & Star Citizen, the retail price would not need to recoup the development costs. This could mean either a lower retail price, just to cover the operating costs + a modest profit, or a standard AAA retail price for a larger profit.

[@da1memer192]

don’t give them any other ideas lol

[@2masMusik]

Listening to the ArcCorp part and cant help going back to the monetization diskussion, letting people buy the the penthouses of all the buildings in ArcCorp for real money would be an obvious one.

[@UnknownMoses]

Release date estimates by most developers is always too optimistic. One thing I learned working for a large software corporation, whatever a dev estimates in time, multiply it by 2 to 4 times to get the real timespan. So if they say 1 year i would expect 2 years minimum. I think cig has a history of not doing that. This is across all engineering fields tho look at elon musk.

[@roxstar5088]

A sandbox does need stories but other types of stories like a book or an RPG. Just like going around in real life, you are not following a pre-determined story but react on the millions of stories that happen around you.

[@casademackie4031]

Resources and people moving from SQN 42 to Star Citizen

[@fwdcnorac8574]

If Squadron 42 gets anywhere in the same league as say Baulders Gate 3 or GTA 6 they'll be fine. But they won't get anywhere near it unless it's practically bug free.

[@stefanbennetts1965]

Don’t forget it’s the STAR ENGINE that’s KING here this is we’re the BIG MONEY is going to be because developers will pay big money to use the engine to make games .. 🎉🎉🎉

[@ARMAGEDDON4891]

Theaters of War to have a humans vs Vanduul conquest mode and i'll play 24/7.

[@JoseJimenez-fc6pu]

Where was Tony Z??? That was my question during this CitizenCon.

[@rooster1012]

The stuff missing in 3.22 will probably show up in a 3.22.x patch.

[@nickstinger4709]

I play MMORPGS but not first person shooters. I'm interested in star Citizen, but I'm not sure if I'll enjoy it.

[@seanc6754]

The distribution centers are going to ne awesome..hopefully right away if not eventually they will be sick

[@danielhartland3737]

I kind of disagree with your statments about new features being locked behind new ships (ie salvage) my take is that the people who are most interested in the feature/ship and willing to drop hard earned cash on it are the ones most likely going to take it as a profession in game and so are the people you really want the most feedback from

[@Platinumsniper]

Elite Dangerous attempted the whole separation of the arena mode and selling it for cheaper as an introduction to the game.... I don't think it helped that much.

[@SpaceFanD20]

@spacetomatogaming @theastropub if ToW doesn't come out, Paul needs to do a streamathon of nothing but redeemer piloting. Normal game loops, as much as you can without cargo space, but only in the redeemer.

[@HappyRBOB]

I wont be happy till I can have my little flying space ramen truck that I can hawk ramen at people at their windows in area 18 5th element style.

[@dcshoes841]

Please stop saying Arena Commander should be sold as a standalone game. CIG literally had to fight a lawsuit against Crytek about this.

[@TheAstroPubLive]

They won it as well, no need to freak out about that now.

[@dcshoes841]

@@TheAstroPubLive Correct. They won the case by showing that Star Citizen and Squadron 42 were the same "game." But if they split out Arena Commander and sell it as a stand-alone game, Crytek may be able to file another lawsuit.

[@ctzn3lack]

Sure they can try to sue again but it stopped being cryengine a long time ago. Plus CIG transitioned to modifying the Lumberyard instead, and now they are clearly labeling it as its own engine, which I doubt they would do without having the legal footing to crush any potential lawsuits.

[@r.daneel.90]

Mmm not really

[@hawkzulu5671]

Crytek cant sue them because StarEngine is fully owned 100% by CIG. They could commercially license it, if they wanted to and allow other developers to make games with the engine. If that were my intent, id maybe put a showcase together - maybe call it 'Star Engine Demo'@@dcshoes841

[@herman7992]

share alot of 30k's together you meant. I have been supporter of Star Citizen for more than 8 years and the progress is shocking to borderline terrible to say the least

[@TacticalBeard]

Home front was supposed to be about china invading the US not North Korea but it was changed at the last second because the Chinese investors in the company didn’t like it 😂 and most of the poor story writing and plot holes are due to most of the story being scrapped right before launch.

[@coastalorigins3031]

So stupid that a big worry is how are they going to make more money? They've already received over a BILLION dollars in funding and will continue to sell more copies of the game. They don't need more money, just sell the entry level game and offer ship options for sale and that should cover everything.

[@taucer16]

TTK is WAY too high

[@geekadventureteam7806]

Selling arena commander is a terrible idea, in my opinion. I agree with Tomato that releasing it for free for people to try and be a gateway to squadron/star citizen is a good way to go. It gets people into the game and creates a little good will towards CIG, and we all know they need that.

[@Damiv]

The star map being so bad is the main reason I don’t play the game right now.

[@yous2244]

True, it was extremely bad for me. But not so bad as to make me stop the game like you. However, when I saw the better Star Map in citizencon it became much much worse. Citizencon made me nearly stop playing 😂😅

[@MrSolLeks]

Yea, i still play regularly and have figured out all the lil tricks to force the star map to work tho i think im more excited for the new map then pyro lol.

[@BrokenImmersions]

Lore Lover = Neckbeard, Carebear, Bob, Trash, etc.

[@guitar60253]

You are smoking crack if you think Star Citizen will survive by making small amount of money and using Squad to bank roll it. They will shut this down and make 3 squadron games.

[@madislanddoctor]

I predict that NOTHING will happen with navigation. Apparently, it's sucked now for YEARS. Seriously . I've been playing about a month. The Quantum drive navigation is about the dumbest thing I've ever seen in video games in 30 years. HOW THE FUCK TO DO DISCERN MARKINGS ON THE PLANET??? DUMB DUMB DUMB! Ground navigation is non-existent on foot with no compass. At least the flying around is cool but playing this as an explorer trying to navigate around a planet or on the planet itself on foot or in ground vehicle ABSOLUTELY SUCKS.

[@hawkzulu5671]

The new starmap/ navigation system is coming in 2024. So is the HUD on foot compass

[@stryker2099]

there is NEVER anyone in arena commander. There is no way ANYONE actually wants it

[@SpaceTomatoToo]

That's because it doesn't run well still