The Best & Worst VST Plugins of 2023

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[@machoman7655]

It was AI everywhere this year

[@mthomas1091]

Not here 🤫

[@planetclay]

beginning of the end.

[@User720-ik6mv]

and still the BEST ones work without A.I 😁

[@Weaverbeats]

yeah it hasn't been great.

[@jaybuck9124]

best way to sounds like shit: Ozone 11 mastering

[@pelennorDSP]

You forget an award, "Best at providing a poorer experience for their paid customers than the pirates", obviously won by Acustica.

[@GizzyDillespee]

Acustica could win "Most Disrespect Towards Their Paying Customers", but they'd face stiff competition from that guy at the state fair with the "throw the ball in the bottle" game.

[@jloiben12]

What I like about the Sonible EQs is that it provides goo starting points. I slap that on at the beginning of the chain and I let it do its thing early in the process and I build from there. I don’t “just” use it as my one eq but as a “I am lazy and want to do things faster than I otherwise could” tool

[@ixxirecords26]

Same. It seems like their plugins use far too much CPU power for what they offer too. They don’t take away my ability to mix but, idk, they’re great for learning and as an assistant, but I can use more coloured EQ’s with the same settings that don’t assault my hardware.

[@unc1589]

Goo! Goo for you buddy! I like those Goo plug-ins 😂

[@alsoulmusic]

I also love the fact that Smart EQ4 encourages me to experiment. Being able to quickly tweak an eq on another track just speeds things up. The speed in which you can order what's more prominent is also great for just trying stuff out. One example I have is if you are stacking synths you could put them in a group and try different orders in a way you could never do with standard eq. It is a revelation to my workflow!

[@date_vape]

Your mom provides me "goo" starting points 😉 😂

[@henninghoefer]

Pretty sure the biggest scam in the music industry is Spotify...

[@ghostplayermusic]

8:20 He was going to say Infiltrator 2 is better 😅

[@sentimentaltrash]

I was gonna say the falcon 3 midi output makes it win imo- it’s honestly huge, I also liked Arturia efx motion & not sure if fragments was dropped this year but they’re both my mvps. Honourable mention goes to airwaves who just keeps keeping on

[@SongOfItself]

So I tried out Smart:EQ4 last night and all it did was spin the big green wheel forever, never completing the "learning" process on any track other than the first one. Apparently not smart enough to periodically check and terminate the process if it's not completing in the max permitted time. Which btw would be a basic coding practice. Yay for AI!

[@kkbrook11]

Enjoyed this. Good content weaver

[@melvyhype]

Was waiting all year for this

[@MD_Vadim]

Honestly your videos start to be my got o videos for the morning coffee))) ❤

[@Reggi_Sample]

My list: Amek Mastering Comp, MasterPlan, Drift (as it was free), Serato Sample I agree. Flex beat? Man this was difficult 😂. ScalerEQ the biggest snake oil, the spikes are just the GUI, it’s no different to any EQ that displays the pitch of the frequency selected (FabFilter) and putting your notches where the fundamental and harmonics are, aka, EQing your spikes

[@maxmeyer6395]

I love your videos man, you're always keeping it real!

[@astralyd]

Thank you Mr. Beats for a great year of content !

[@maxterwel]

I actually like Scaler Eq, especially for color bass, automating the frequency knob gives some great results.

[@Weaverbeats]

i could see that, i'll have to mess with that.

[@compucorder64]

Current was cool Falcon 3 would be my desert island plugin,. Think it beats out Phase Plant. And even just those two powerhouses make 2023 not such a bad year. Though it wasn't a memorable year. I liked Erica Synths Virtual Zen Delay too And props to Valhalla for adding two more algos to Supermassive. Noise Engineering quietely but steadily releasing their VSTs. Neural DSP Mateus Asato is very good. Idk, I sort of feel like have enough plugins come out now - my wish for the electronic music scene in 2024 would be for Bandcamp to live long and prosper.

[@jaminjones8784]

It's a M4L device, not a VST, but my favorite plugin of the year is Opal by Fors (it _might_ have come out at the end of 2022 though). Super cool drum synth / virtual groove box with a really quick/easy and fun workflow. For me, the real magic is in it's sequencer... pretty sure it's my all time favorite sequencer honestly.

[@jonathanvolle]

You got lucky with the eyebrows haha

[@prodbymeadow]

🌊😂 great video!

[@ampent4204]

Hilarious review🤣

[@VinceJackson1]

Great Video 😂 Ozone actually fix the 100% bass width 😅

[@heavyion]

Hooray, new video

[@moreorlesto]

Props for the award show. Everytime now when I open old DAW sessions, I inevitably get reminded that I have plugins running that no longer exist in my system. I then go to my mental list (and sometimes an actual spreadsheet) of newer plugins I use in place of WAVES plugins and slot them in accordingly. And sometimes, there's a lot. It's a PITA. And THAT is how much I hate the change that WAVES made. I'll happily deal with this every time. I got rid of all of it. EFFFF THOSE GUYS. Waves Shillers can suck a [DEMONITIZED]

[@Meepup]

There’s one thing that I think will be revolutionary. There’s a new format called clap (clever audio plugin), the format itself is groundbreaking, but hasn’t been adopted yet. It basically multithreads the cores in your cpu, meaning that you can have really high quality plugins that aren’t taxing on the cpu. There’s only 2 daws that support it atm tho, but it’s already being adopted by a few plugins devs and all the popular daws are looking at it to see how it progress’s.

[@charmingpianovideos6185]

Let's go!

[@arnev2017]

Supertone Clear is really good. Been using it in general media production as well.

[@TazzSmk]

I prefer Accentize dxRevive Pro instead, have you tried both for curiosity? :)

[@SongOfItself]

True. I fully expected it to be snake oil, with the pretentious name and all, but it's actually really, really good at what it does. Glad I tried the beta, which gave me a big discount on the full product when it came out.

[@vroteg]

I’d also give award for the DAW. The DAW that f up the biggest was bitwig. Late 2022 they f up their user agreement, backed off and offered everyone 6 month of free updates and then didn’t release a single update for 6 month. Also when finally released it they f up good working browser for the in browser shop. Yeah, bitwig completely crewed in 2023…

[@Weaverbeats]

I wanted to but I felt like I wasn't familiar enough with all of them. The greatest improvements seem to have been made by FL, Bitwig and Cubase though.

[@vroteg]

@@WeaverbeatsI think all the major daws had updates this year. With least useful was Bitwig and most useful, oh yes, I’m going to say it, crabelton (:

[@SongOfItself]

That may be true, but what useful parts they've added this year are actually great. People wanted MSEGs, now Bitwig has them everywhere, from envelopes to oscillators, all compatible with each other via shape presets. Not enough to last a whole year, probably, but what they did deliver is fantastic, and I like that. It's the Bitwig way, take ages to do something but then deliver perfection. (Except for the browser, that is. I like to imagine they hired a temp to do that piece of wonder and then it stuck).

[@theprezenz]

No, reason f*d up

[@vroteg]

@@SongOfItself I absolutely glad for you liking the MSEGs. Really I happy if they are help to someone. However this took way too long to make them even if they are perfection. You see they was already in many synths and fx from 3rd party plugins for years so I moved from Bitwig native system (except grid, here they ok to me. Another thing they actually don’t have manual midi input. So MSEG envelope on master modulators is useless. All said for me it is way too late and not so important.

[@ihatetheinternetitsawesome3578]

RELEASE HER

[@vojtecheffenberger3672]

I would mention Supertone Clear, wavesfactory Equalizer and also new gate from sonnible

[@Reggi_Sample]

Smart gate?

[@Weaverbeats]

i've tried the gate, haven't tried the other ones yet. there are too many plugins.

[@johnplainsong9769]

This was hilarious. Thanks for making it.

[@RomeAround]

You got me wanting to try out that Minimal Audio Synth now

[@Weaverbeats]

there's a free trial, i didnt want to give it a chance cause of the controversy tbh

[@axxojaxx2510]

Current is a good synth definitely check it out!

[@RomeAround]

@@axxojaxx2510 Good looking 👌🏾

[@SongOfItself]

They *have* to do a sale next year, don't they? At $200 it can barely compete with Pigments or Phase Plant, when you can get those at 50% off several times a year.

[@RomeAround]

@@SongOfItself Yeah, I’m not paying $200 for that

[@tk-zh3dd]

Weaver, TE is a design company who designs products for Nothing (the phone) and IKEA and other companies. Their audio stuff is just promo for their design consulting services so they don’t really care if their table makes any money.

[@crnkmnky]

🤯 In proper perspective, it makes a lot more sense.

[@TokyoSpeirs]

The humour on this one was *chefskiss*

[@Dubsteppah]

I love your cynical humor, it's great man. much love Weaver! !

[@CarlitoProductions]

uHE updated Filterscape that's pretty badass this year. Haven't used the trial but I'd say it would be one of the best this year

[@chokocat9064]

The Weaves! Nice hat! Moog's Mariana's CV interface with the Foogers is cool. discoDSP did some nice updates on OB-Xd. GForce came out with two nice ARP plugins this year, Oddity3 and Axxess Roland did nice, and free, updates to their JUPITER-4, JUPITER-8, and JUNO 106 plugouts Waldorf updated Largo, but only the UI, and the price was high. Digi did the same lame ass only sub mistake this year, then walked it back. You should have given SoCalLabs an award for best name. Logic came out on iOS, but sub only.

[@Weaverbeats]

we have been calling it my "homeless santa" hat. i'll have to check out some of these other ones.

[@chokocat9064]

@@Weaverbeats Stray Santa

[@SuperLinuxAudioGuru]

"You talking to me ?" Your girlfriend was doing the scene out of the film 'Taxi driver'

[@Soundbyshoebox]

I like this

[@haslo_]

moog Mariana is neat IMHO. Not revolutionary, but a really nice-sounding synth.

[@chokocat9064]

The Fooger CV interfacing with Mariana is pretty revolutionary. I don't know of any other soft doing something like it.

[@SongOfItself]

@@chokocat9064 Isn't it a gimmick though? Couldn't you do all that with DAW modulators anyway? (Depending on the DAW, I guess). I have some of those plugins and I like Mariana a lot, but the plugin connectability seems like they're trying to deliver the guitar pedal experience, which seems rather silly inside a DAW

[@chokocat9064]

@@SongOfItself Actually most DAWs would not be able to properly replicate this feature. Yes you could set up a CC modulation, or something similar, but that would be based on data in the track, or what you could call track modulation. This is extending the abilities of the synth by using features in the foogers. For instance you could add an LFO from a fooger. This is a powerful extension to the synth. You could think of this of this synth being semi modular. What would be great is if Moog opened up this API to other devs. It's a brilliant idea.

[@dk101likeu]

I enjoyed it...just not as much as i thought i would!..cracked me up!...Bonus points for the hardware that most resembles a bomb! Heading to the airport now with this! ..Weaver rocks

[@d00mhound]

I love the idea of Synplant 2, the only setback is the engine is basically the same as version 1. So, I do hope Synplant 3 the entire synthesis engine changes.

[@aplanebagel]

It's sums it up!

[@DarkMeta_Minecraft]

i slept on this video until this moment right now, on purpose. 😂

[@iceprada2]

Serato Sample needs fx just like in their studio daw. Add those FX to Serato Sample so we can get even more wild. And it can use an infinite screen size...We all ain't got microscopes for eyes.

[@billpodolak7754]

Ozone 11 master assistant doesn't increase the bass width anymore. That was a bug in 10 that got fixed.

[@lameerjhontv6860]

GET THIS MAN TO 50K!!!

[@Studio22mix]

Most annoying thing is youtube, when reading a comment and you click back you end up on top of the list every time again. Also I hate the autoplay shit when you are scrolling and then it puts every autoplayed shit on your watch history, so stupid 🤬

[@johnnydee6274]

Session Percussionist by Native Instruments looks pretty good..underrated

[@hrvstmusic]

That’s not a plugin that’s a rompler

[@crnkmnky]

​@@hrvstmusic It's… still a plugin.

[@hrvstmusic]

nah@@crnkmnky the plugin part is Kontakt or Kontakt Player. Not Session Percussionist. Its basically just a preset for Kontakt.

[@johnnydee6274]

@@hrvstmusic sure I guess if you wanna get super anal and technical with what’s considered a “plugin”. It’s a Komplete instrument to be used within Kontakt. I’m thinking most folks understood what I meant 😉. Just another tool to make music with.

[@DJSockmonkeyMusic]

Mixbus 9 came out this year, and I'm pretty happy with that. Not a plugin....um... The only thing i bought this year was analog labs V, and only because i got an 80% discount. It wasn't a great year for plugins.

[@AcesBeatz]

Weaver Beats for PRESIDENT. You're A REAL ONE my Dude. Keep on being a SOLID HONEST Soul NEVER change like that Jay-z Track Ya Heard. REAL recognize REAL You good peeps man. Happy 2024 stay blessed My G!

[@thepanicroommastering2062]

He hasn’t even a T-Shirt Motive….but Boy i love this Guy 😝 Thanks for the great Show ✨🥂

[@Weaverbeats]

thank you

[@LaghimaMusic]

xln life I feel like the whole point is the use the generated rhythm not so much the generated loop but also there’s random infinite sound generator

[@tobiaslofi]

What about Plugin Boutique’s Scaler EQ? That should be awarded as most musical EQ or not? I didn’t try it myself though

[@gutterg0d]

If you actually watch the video you'll find that it's in there.

[@tobiaslofi]

@@gutterg0dobviously it got it’s own category but isn’t it any good?!

[@Weaverbeats]

it seems pretty cool just a little sketchy on it.

[@dracul74]

I upgraded my NI standard plugin package for the first time in at least 5 years. Gotta say, loving the package more than I thought.

[@ghfjfghjasdfasdf]

Are you talking about Komplete?

[@dracul74]

@@ghfjfghjasdfasdf yeah. They’ve added a bunch since I originally bought it…. so the upgrade was worth it. Upgraded Ableton too and feel the opposite… some ok things, but not really worth more money spent.

[@ghfjfghjasdfasdf]

Copy that. I just bought 13 and 14 Ultimate and went from Live 3.04 to 11.3.13 this year. Got a new blazing machine and the whole 9 yards. Needless to say, it’s a whole new world going from my XP build to my new 11 build. I’d be curious to hear about your Live likes/dislikes moving from the previous version you were using. 11 is a completely different animal compared to 3. I was using Cubase SE all these years for my VSTi work and 11 is light years ahead of that.

[@blueberrimuffin6682]

gonna pirate it all so ni gets none of my money 🔥🔥🔥

[@ghfjfghjasdfasdf]

You call that trolling…

[@patrikhejnar9495]

Falcon 3 has been cracxed already

[@medicinal_soul]

Bro I wind screen isn't a pop filter. I still hear pops... obviously and do you have wind in there? If so how you have the fan running with the greenscreen on

[@Weaverbeats]

It was probably me moving around the mic. There was no A/C or fan on. Not used to standing up and filming like that.

[@medicinal_soul]

just giving you a hard time because in school for recording tech the teacher made fun of someone for using a wind screen in a room and said a similar thing... @@Weaverbeats

[@YungstarProd]

An*l. Happy new year!

[@Ra_Sharpness_]

Have you used autochorma yet?

[@YEE941]

You missed music hack master plan, dope new limiter

[@Weaverbeats]

heard about it never got a chance to check it out. seems aight.

[@KordTaylor]

BTW Antares has plugs where you can see pitch vs. freq. Not a bad plan if you’re more a musician vs. engineer.

[@jedidiahgirio]

Honestly Im surprised Sonibles' Desser that came out this year hasnt gotten more respect

[@KBoxx]

For smart eq4, can’t you apply one on the “melody bus”, and then one on the “drum bus” and put them both in a group called “buses” or something and then boom they talk to each other.

[@Weaverbeats]

yeah there's def workarounds. I actually explained my workaround but it was too much of a tangent, so I cut it out. Basically i had a group for each individual tracks in a group. And then group the tracks in my DAW (melody, drums, etc) And then put an instance on the daw groups and have those communicate that way.

[@KBoxx]

@@Weaverbeats ah yeah I hear you. it's only going to get harder from here to stay on top of our AI overlords though.. 😄

[@Studio22mix]

@@KBoxx The eq is pretty good I have to admit. I tried it on some old mixes which I know really good and have to say it does a pretty good job. I have it as a demo, it’s nice but I probably won’t gonna buy it.

[@dddux]

My resolution for next year is, I'm gonna shave my shoulders. I'm just a bit worried about being too cold without my fur, you never know with this psycho-weather. Happy New Year and all that! Cheers!

[@YEE941]

You missed Michaelgelo eq from tone projects. Best hardware emulation eq yet

[@Weaverbeats]

haven't heard of that one i'll peep.

[@phryge2468]

Woah, crazy you mention that! I work with the guy who builds the hardware. Amazing mind. You should also look up his collab w/ Moar Applebaum. They released another hardware emulator called “The Oven”. It’s very high quality! Made after his hardware EQ/Saturator that uses mosfets in analog circuit. I believe they worked with Plugin Alliance on it

[@yaboysambeats]

ultimate vocal remover is one of the best tools of all time. So damn clean for something that is free and relatively new to the software game

[@aemythjensen]

I agree, specially when you select the "Demucs" process method.

[@WompRok]

Funny I thought about pre ordering a subpac a few years ago and decided it seemed fishy....

[@michail_777]

smart:EQ 4, smart:comp 2 and smart:limit are very good plugins.Especially since I haven't found something similar.

[@tekis0]

I love ScalerEQ!!

[@richardbently7236]

When's the God Particle review?

[@ArtEntity]

u gotta try my plugins i wanna be on the list next year

[@Weaverbeats]

send it

[@crnkmnky]

*1.* What's up with the goofy numerological pricing? *2.* Who hosts your website?

[@DJAdalaide]

Its not a vst plugin (well, you can use reason as a vst plugin so technically it is) but Reason Studios Objekt Modelling Synth is one of my top plugins for this year, sounds amazing.

[@Weaverbeats]

i forgot about this one, i should try it out it seems really cool.

[@imaginarysheeps]

I really want to grab this one eventually, physical modeling slaps

[@lokologico]

its def amazing. Cant wait to see what else Reason drops on the new year.

[@sfuture08]

Appreciate the honesty. Transit and Life sound really cool on the surface but yeah wayyy overhyped.

[@imaginarysheeps]

Random by beatsurfers is my fav this year. Best blob type plugin by a mile

[@Weaverbeats]

I saw that in Andrew's video it looked pretty cool.

[@444Inlakesh]

haven't bought a plugin in over a year, did pay for some updates tho

[@ehvmixedit]

Next year we gonna be rating the best AI mixing engineer imbedded into our daws

[@AreaNeraTV]

VoosteQ Model N is the best for me. For 20$ I got a preamp, comp, eq and saturator, it’s a steal . Even the 100$ full price is a good value.

[@crnkmnky]

Your Santa hat looks like a turban for most of the video… The silent donning of the turban was actually my favorite part of this video!

[@infinitedurr]

Runner up for biggest blunder: Bitwig and their renegging on their user agreement

[@Weaverbeats]

Yeah that was bad just didn't feel like it was as bad as waves or minimal.

[@dumafuji]

Love it. The emperor has no clothes

[@robmlisanti]

Current Minimal is amazing

[@jonathanvolle]

Shave or save? Eyebrow edition.

[@MurphysLaw996]

Well the smart eq4 doesn’t work in DAWs that sandbox the plugins like Bitwig

[@Weaverbeats]

RIP

[@SongOfItself]

Oh bloody hell, thank you, you've just answered the support ticket I sent them yesterday! Do they happen to mention it anywhere before they get you to buy it? I almost did yesterday, because I need something like that very badly, but I tried it first and sure enough, it craps out. Zero functionality (except for a one-track eq, like everything else)

[@MurphysLaw996]

@@SongOfItself No unfortunately I should have used the trial before buying. The only thing I saw before buying was their list of compatible DAWs that didn’t include Bitwig but there was a note saying that their plugins may be compatible with other DAWs. It’s only when I placed my support ticket that I saw that they have an article saying that it doesn’t work with DAWs that fully sandbox the plugins because it prevents the instances from communicating with each other. They say that they are looking for a solution but I will not hold my breath because it doesn’t look like it’s their priority.

[@vikhr]

Doesn't that only happen when you sandbox all of them individually? It's kinda overkill to do that anyway, I'd just sandbox by plugin instead of individually and then manually choose the ones that need individual sandbox

[@MurphysLaw996]

@@vikhr I don’t know if all plugins are sandboxed individually in Bitwig. But what I can say is that other plugins companies like Izotope have a way to communicate between instances that works in Bitwig despite the sandboxing. So I don’t really know what Sonible are doing different but they’ll eventually have to find a way because all modern DAWs are going adopt plugin sandboxing because it’s the only way to get increased overall reliability.

[@kdg6963]

bro, you are hilarious

[@Nestradamus]

Sonible definitely got Izotope tf outta here this year.

[@BeeDotEee]

I'm not a producer but I love playing with audio stuff. That being said dealing with Waves plugins is akin to a prostate exam from a 60 year old bricklayer.

[@xdvn1290]

scaler EQ seems a bit like Spectre

[@jaydavee]

hopefully next year will be more reverbs.

[@Weaverbeats]

pls no

[@unc1589]

Weav you and wifey produce a great show. It’s true, plugins are running outta moves. The only thing that changes and stays fresh will be us! New application of applications. New non conventional uses. I don’t know the name of that plugin, but if I can drop a stemmed out old dusty string sample into it, and it kicks back a reproduced synth sound that mimics it perfectly, we got ourselves a plugin!

[@babysunn2]

Thanks For Listening To Me... I Was Hoping To See Any Kind Of Awards On This. But Hey... OZONE 11 Ain't BAD, I Have My Former Critic's Complimenting My Final Master's Now, However I Do Add GullFoss Master On My Bottom Output Tree After Ozone 11 Thou, But Still Ozone Is Fun To Make Minor Adjustments To Once You Learn The Modules. Serato 2 Is Dope, So I Agree Wit You On That One, And Neutron 4 Might Be Dumber Than It's Competition, But Not When Used With OZONE 11, That's Probably Why It's A.i. Is Spreading The Low Ends, But If You Neutron 4 Your Low In First, It Stays Unchanged In Your Final Mix, Sound Quality in Tone Wise... Also You Should've At Least Thru In Best DAW Of The Year... I'mmah Go Out On Ah Limb And Say FL 21 Wins That One EASILY. 😁

[@Weaverbeats]

Ozone is definitely not bad, I just still feel like it could be better especially the master assistant. The chance between 10 and 11 isn't ground breaking. I didn't want to do a DAW award because I don't multi-daw too often. I probably should have at least thrown some options out there as an outsider observation.

[@billpodolak7754]

@@Weaverbeats How do you think the master assistant could be better in future versions? (Genuine question)

[@tasenova2717]

should try an m4l list and then decide what is actually made bad, because it kills me how good those are getting and I still don't like ableton

[@ffaux8606]

dude your discord link is expired

[@brun1698]

Synplant 2 is the best ❤

[@antgreen3254]

cherry audio pro solo is one of the best this year

[@matslarsson5988]

You have to put some effort in. Shave your eyebrows. Shave your girlfriends eyebrows. Swap eyebrows. Now THAT would grow this channel! 💨

[@ryde2012]

You forgot about waves silk

[@drrodopszin]

BTW, when you said "there is no real idea left to make into a groundbreaking plugin", it made me think, but it's not true. I just checked Sonible Smart Gate and it is still not "smart enough". You still are going to lose snare ghost notes when you want to get rid of the hats in between snare hits. The AI plugin I need and I don't find is the "drum track cleaner".

[@buckycore]

5:58 I'm six minutes in. Dude! Falcon 3 and Avenger 2 puts poopoo all over Current. Sorry, but i felt the same way about it as you felt about Synplant. Like. Yeah, it's great. But best sounding presets from a synth? Naw fam. falcon 3, Avenger 2, and Tone2 Icarus 2 have the presets that blows minds up. Also a shoutout to Bitwig 5.1 release. Its not a plugin, but you basically use Bitwig for the Grid and other Synths. And they all got rad new things Updated: ok, i hear you as to why you didnt out Falcon on the list. They have a small subset of presets you can trial through their free player, but i feel you about no proper trial.

[@Arcessitor]

You could buy Avenger 2 just for the new factory bank alone and never run out of material to produce with.

[@chokocat9064]

UVI shat on the Mach V customers, and iLok so...

[@buckycore]

I don't know much about their history, but I'll look it up for sure. But I personally don't care if any of these guys use iLok or not. Fine by me if I love the software. ​@@chokocat9064

[@buckycore]

​@@Arcessitorso fucking true, dude! So fucking true. Plus it's like...one of the most fun and easy to use for custom patches. I'm not a sound designer yet by any stretch, but I already made a handful of patches that I love and have used in tracks

[@Weaverbeats]

i want to try falcon 3 but i'm not buying it to try it. I'll give avenger a shot though.

[@KetilJensen]

VPS Avenger 2 ?

[@ItsTheFuzzMan]

Not even a tuxedo T-shirt?

[@Weaverbeats]

glad to provide

[@clown134]

i gotta say the v-pan plugin.. it installed TWO separate drm softwares on my PC completely silently without ever mentioning either of them. so fuck that. the ai plugins don't even count, and at least they don't install bloatware. also the 'bassline' plugin that only worked for a few days, also GOYO, just straight up wanted hdd space and time spent

[@illford6921]

To be fair did anything good happen last year either?