The BEYOND After 1 Month... I Feel Strange

[@CasandChary]

What do you think about the Beyond?

[@redstoner897]

it's incredibly overpriced for what it is

[@zenithquasar9623]

Intrigued but wish for a wirelessness.

[@RidgeXR_2]

@@redstoner897 actually, if you look at component costs, I'm surprised it isn't more. Those displays are $365 EACH. and there's 2 of them. add to that a custom face gasket, 16 different variants for different IPDs, the R&D to build something like this, the custom optics, the SteamVR lighthouse diodes, the custom cable that they had to make (no off the shelf video cable was actually enough for that resolution) the plastics, and the cooling system... I'm surprised it's this cheap.

[@tripp-hq]

I want the Beyond headset, but I might wait until the can perfect it more. For now I'm using the Vive XR Elite headset.

[@x32i77]

Low fov and low brightness is the only reason why I don't want it

[@silenthashassin8912]

I am just thankful that a company attempted this. Hopefully this becomes something to mimmick in the future headsets.

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

Fixed IPD? That's a horrible idea, when comes time to sell it off.. now you need to find a person with the exact same IPD and also rely on the fact that they are still in business selling these custom face interfaces.

[@twinssword]

​@@Nobody-Nowhereyour not suppose to sell these off. So it's just added cost since resell value will be low.

[@beeilve]

@@Nobody-Nowhere I imagine any 3rd party company could sell you a replacement face gasket. It's just a piece of foam. If you 3D scan your original they could 3D print a replica, or alter one side of it to match the 3D scan of someone else. Or instead of 3D printing they could cut any material so long as you have a high precision scanned 3D object.

[@Volker_A4]

​@@Nobody-Nowhere Just sounds like growing pains. I'm sure a larger company building this could make some extra room for IPD adjustment with more custom components.

[@ReavoEnd]

​@@Volker_A4 You've got it backwards. It's way more effort (especially logistics) for the company to NOT have IPD adjustment. Then you have to stock 15 variants, get IPD from the user and match every headset to a same-IPD user... The sacrifice is all for the end user experience. Tens of grams are shaved off the weight thanks to no complex IPD adjustment system, which requires metal rods, gears, and a lot more parts and space.

[@TheJAMF]

I have my fingers firmly crossed for the company to stay in business and I hope they will make a gen 2 with eye tracking for foveated rendering and also a bigger FoV with same of better pixels per degree. (with subsequent higher resolution)

[@exodous02]

I think they must make money on bigscreen VR and this is bankrolling this headset. I hope this headset doesn't put them under.

[@bigbangerz5856]

if they spend as much time on improving the features as they do on PR they would be in a much better place

[@missa2855]

​@@exodous02 they are made on individual orders though, no? I mean, with the whole tailormade fit and all.

[@eliotcole]

I think that FOV thing is key for me. I have good peripheral vision, having that "artificially" limited is a problem for me. But oh boy, this is amazing.

[@redroyce4590]

Should watch their most recent video of BigScreen about eye tracking that came out earlier today !

[@seattime4075]

Seriously considering it, as comfort is a big issue I have with current headsets.

[@TheUberTrekkie]

Excellent review! Thanks for showing the size next to the Quest 2, and letting us know about optional prescription inserts.

[@Low_commotion]

I think the iPhone XR requirement reduces the size of the market as well. I'm interested in the headset, but I use android and most of my close friends do as well. I could ask friends I haven't seen in a while, but that's a bit awkward lol. Good to hear about the prescription inserts though, I don't use glasses but, again, many of the people around me do.

[@bronzelife3646]

I heard you can scan your face using a iphone from an apple store lol.

[@KaNoMikoProductions]

Just go to a store and use a display phone, lol

[@Vanillabean315]

Everyone knows someone with an iPhone lmao

[@GhernieM]

@@Vanillabean315 When having friends is a requirement for buying nerdy hardware XD

[@Vanillabean315]

@@GhernieM there’s always best buy

[@sophiebear9985]

I already preordered this a few months ago after seeing some of the first videos come out about it. I'm a huge VR enthusiast and already own 5 headsets so this is something that is perfect to me. Its a huge price tag but the comfort and immersiveness is something I just cannot resist. I hate that the price makes it so out of reach for so many people and I really hope this headset is what they promise it to be, I'd love to continue to see more and more headsets reach this quality and beyond. After this purchase though, I don't see myself buying another headset unless it has full face and eye tracking.

[@Matic3d]

I appreciate the objective and insightful reviews here. This is my new favorite source for keeping track of developments in immersive computing. No spin, no favoritism, just fairly pointing out what works well and what doesn’t, and promising developments balanced with commonsense skepticism. Well done.

[@KowieMcZowie]

It gives me a strong 'Ready Player One' vibe, I hope they keep heading in this direction, i'd rather pay more for comfort and lightness. The small fov is a turn off for me, but still its very impressive what they have managed to do.

[@SargonDragon]

I'm surprised that your poll showed such greater interest in clarity than FOV. I've seen other statistics showing that FOV was more favored. But then again, I think those were from having actually shown people examples of both and seeing which was preferred. The majority of VR headsets have rotten FOVs. And the trend in newer VR headsets has been toward even narrower (like this one). I think this is taking advantage of people not missing what they've never experienced. Once you've tried a wide FOV VR headset, it's hard to go back. But unfortunately the only option there is Pimax, which the vast majority of people will never have tried. I'm maining a Pimax 8KX, and because of that I'm stuck. I'm spoiled on FOV that covers nearly my entire vision. The level of immersion that produces is hard to explain to people who have never experienced it. And also the significant competitive advantage in gaming. But with the VR industry moving toward increasingly narrow FOV headsets like this, there's just nothing I have any interest in upgrading to. 90x93 degrees sucks pretty hard. That's even narrower than the Quest 2. Other aspects of this headset sound great, but that tiny FOV. Eh.

[@halcyonramirez6469]

@@JorgTheElder PPD takes priority. no one cares about 300FOV when the resoultion is crap. but if the resolution is good enough people can live with a smaller FOV but then as the tech evolves we will eventually get both high PPD and high FOV

[@NegZer0]

Technology is still at the point its one or the other even at high price points like the 1k price on these. Headsets exist with both but these are industry targeted with SIGNIFICANTLY higher price point. When it's not one or the other and still at a consumer price point, then you'll see the fov go up again. Prob in another year or two with how fast the tech is accelerating

[@davidknightx]

I think Big Screen doesn't care at all about the ability to play games on it (why it doesn't come with controllers/base stations). I think Big Screen has MUCH bigger plans for this headset. I believe they built this headset to close down Regal and AMC theaters and become the new place Hollywood releases movies. I know many of you doubt this, but is it really that hard to believe? Look at what this company is and what they've chosen to concentrate on designing the headset for: color accuracy, comfort, super light, easy to strap to your head, and small enough to easily eat popcorn and snacks while wearing it. This is a headset even grandma can put on without help. And for those of you who've never used the Big Screen app on Oculus Rift, you can choose which theater you want to be in. You can be in a huge IMAX size theater, an old 80's retro theater, drive-in theater, in your million dollar apartment, etc. The headset only has two things they need to work out before they can accomplish this: the price (which will come down later) and the glare. All headsets have this issue where if there's a bright spot in the middle and darkness around it, you will get glare on the lenses (basically, any movie theater). So they have to keep the movie theater relatively lite-up during the movie to minimize it. It's still a massive distraction and they'll have to get this ironed out before overthrowing cinemas.

[@nameinvalid69]

wow the physical size differences is staggering. this is something that I can honestly support.

[@VeryPersoon]

Finally someone who gives an actual review instead of just the usual KZbinrs who gush over every single new tech saying their all the next step for vr

[@bujin5455]

7:21. I think this headset is a pretty small investment for anyone who is already deep into the PC/Lighthouse VR scene, cause all you really need is the headset, you already have everything else on hand. If you 'only' manage to double your VR usage (due to increased comfort), you unlock a lot of value out of what you have already spent. To say nothing of the just better experience you're having while you do that.

[@AlexanderShearn]

We just need this with the FOV of the Pimax 5k, and the clarity of the Pimax Crystal. That plus some kind of easy passthrough button to find your drink, and you're golden!

[@DayDreamerVR]

Great video! I am intrigued to try the BSB, however, like you say, you have to be sure you would use it alot. I would mostly use it for sim racing, but I am quite happy with the experience of the PICO 4 for everything else. That is what I now find challenging, as I keep finding that no headset is worth the cost just to get rid of compression artifacts in sim racing. Although small and light is good, I also find the PICO 4 to be ultra comfortable and the weight not to be an issue with a battery head strap and the AMVR facial interface. Thanks again for another good video 👍

[@Necro_Hexual]

Headset looks like a big step into the future. And Vertigo 2 was AMAZING!

[@zork2001]

How would you compare the visual clarity to the G2 modified to have your eyes pushed up to the lenses? I honestly don't really find the G2 to be that heavy or irating to wear in the first place.

[@iraklimgeladze5223]

Sure, you can get to use to it. But you can not attract big audience with that size headset

[@awjvdheide]

I as a Ocolus Rift first adaptor and currently mostly HP Reverb G1 VR Flighsimmer find this head set very interesting . Because Flightsimming can be long hours in VR and clarity is essential for instrument reading. Currently I am looking in to the Varjo Aero and PIMAX Crystal besides the Bigscreen as a upgrade. With all the additional cost to get the get the base stations and controllers for now the specs of the PIMAX Crystal are winning it for me. However the amount of not yet implemented features lets me hold on until the dust has settled. I stil have a hangover over the fact that my brother did get the rift for half the price I payed 6 months after I purchased it.

[@lylenum]

Thanks for the video. Was super excited for this review. The display and small form factor is super tempting because of how comfy it looks. That after affect you get after using it for a while is interesting. Do you notice several times if you have long sessions? All in all, I will probably have to pass due to sharing my headset. But it's still really tempting.

[@AlienSaxophone785]

If they are able to upload 3D/STL files for the housing where you can adjust/choose your IPD. one would be able to 3D print a different housing for resale / giving it to your soulmate when you move on to a next-gen version. (if you're not affraid to open and re-assemble the headset)

[@lethaldumpster2699]

It's something I would really like to have, as feeling like I'm not wearing a headset at all, is super important for me. But without already having tracking stations and station tracked controllers, the barrier of entry is just too high and too risky.

[@xSS4x]

I think its a great product but i wont be getting it for 2 reasons: The need for an iphone . . . And the incompatibility with Oculus Rift tracking. But i'm really excited for the direction VR is going and how the competition keeps bringing us awesome product each years!

[@neilsimmons9582]

I feel this is something you have to experience to understand the leap forward, can't imagine using a headset that light and still getting amazing clarity and visuals.

[@LifeStartsAtrpm-ru1xo]

Currently gaming with a Vive pro with wireless connection. Gaming with a wire totally breaks immersion for me. I really hope this new Beyond-technology will be wireless in the future too. I would buy it in a heartbeat.

[@KisameSempai]

how are they going to fit in a battery in here and having decent airflow so that the battery does not overheat??

[@LifeStartsAtrpm-ru1xo]

@@KisameSempai The battery on my set is not on the headset, but attached to my belt. It does require a small wired connection ofc, but I can rotate (360 degrees) as much and many times as I like without the cable getting in the way. In HL Alyx for example I don’t use the rotation button at all. I just turn around myself. Much more immersive imho. However, there is an extra ‘antenna’ on the headset, which is compared to the Valve pro not bulky, but compared to the Beyond is too bulky I guess. Also, the bandwidth is limited on the Vive pro 2: max 90 hertz instead of 120 hertz (not a problem for me personally, but it will be on todays higher resolution headsets). I guess I have to wait a few years longer, which is a ‘ first world problem ‘ ofc. Edit: typo’s

[@MatsueMusic]

I cannot get over the fact that the "custom fit" is a way to ensure everyone needs their own. If it wasn't for the universal fit of the occulus my dad wouldn't be playing table tennis in VR for hours a day as he entered retirement. Seems like the by product of profit and not user experience. Wouldn't auto IPD and eye tracking solve this? miniaturize the tech instead of artificially creating value from a feature that will soon be obsolescenced by technology improvements .

[@cyphre]

Always love to see the advancement of tech, but the caveats are what hold me back: No pass-through (kind of important in full immersion HMDs), no built in audio (supposedly an audio strap is coming), and no eye tracking, which might be one of those features that really leaves this HMD behind.

[@rorychivers8769]

Although it is great that a company is specialised in making bespoke, tailor made VR headsets, and they have clearly put a lot of effort and thought into it, they should be wary of the fact that VR is an a novel experience that needs to be shared, in order for it to catch on. The headset still needs to remain adaptable to any face, it's not exactly common for any of your family and friends to have exactly the same shape of head

[@tinminator8905]

I really think that PCVR headsets can only succeed in attracting a new audience if either they offer an included tracking solution themselves, or if a new tracking solution that is widely available releases. Yeah, maybe some people see this as an upgrade to their full Vive kit but most PCVR users use the Quest nowadays and I don't see those paying the at least 500 dollar bonus price for just the tracking and that is if they have a good PC. I am very skeptical the beyond can be successful even if it didn't have the downside of no resell value, iPhone requirement and low FOV.

[@travissmith5994]

The FOV is about the same as the Quest 2, so at least those users can tell if it's a deal breaker for them before they buy it. But mounting base stations, getting new controllers, and being tethered to a desktop (and paying a lot for all of that)... There's just enough hurdles to make this unapproachable, even though I like the idea.

[@eliotcole]

I'm so glad this: 1. Has zero audio 2. Is PC based Because I have either an amazing *truly discreet* 7.1 headset, or a full on surround system. I don't need to have take surround forced on me, so it's nice to have that option. Improve the FOV and I can deal with the price on this.

[@jayforcinema]

The Beyond is incredible. However, I would hold on for the next gen personally, since there needs to be a leap in technology to make this truly effective. It needs a mini wireless connections hub to make it really useful. By that I mean the next gen Wifi (Wifi 7) and Bluetooth (6? LE) with almost no lag, so it can stream from the phone (assuming phone has powerful enough hardware). It needs at least one tracker for head movements and one camera for some kind of passthrough mode. Other trackers can go on a person's body or on the controllers, and more cameras can also be clipped on to a person's shirt if needed. The core premise of Beyond is definitely incredible. The custom face pad is amazing. And I can always keep a cheap 299 USD Meta Quest 2 if I need to show someone else anything in VR. [My IPD is 64, in case you ever decide to sell your Beyond btw 🤓]

[@jayforcinema]

​@@JorgTheElder Oh absolutely. In all fairness, if I had 999 USD disposable income, I would have gotten this too. Looks so good! :)

[@CitizenMio]

That strange sensation you felt after removing the headset, reminds me of what you get when you've been walking around wearing prosthetics all day. I've worn masks and ears molded to a lifecast of my face (like in my profile pic) and you do get used to it being an extension of yourself when it fits so perfectly. After wearing those all day for the first time, I would swear I could still feel them on while in bed. A bit like a phantom limb of sorts. The sensation is also similar to the tetris effect and it will dissipate about as quickly once the newness wears off for your body and mind.

[@ConservativeJuggaloPodcast]

I like the design of the DPVR cuz you can flip it upward to look at your surroundings, but I only have a PS5 & Project Morpheus so my eye is only on PSVR2, unfortunately

[@NickGeo25]

The ergonomics looks top notch!

[@elin4364]

I am so hyped for this thing!

[@TimLongson]

To maximise appeal & sales they need to: 1. Allow people to order multiple different face fitting foam moulds per headset, which can be swapped back and forth, to allow a couple with different shaped faces to share a headset, wearing contact lenses if they have different eyes, rather than have personal prescriptions in the headset, unless they don't WANT to share. 2. If they can't get it in the first release, they should aim for a refresh upgraded version which maintains all the other hardware specifications, but ups the refreshrate to 120Hz/FPS (for solid looking images that reduces nausea) and 120 degrees field of view. Obviously it will be down to the power of the individual PC used with it to make full use of these features, but high-end hardware (RTX4090 paired with AMD 7950X3D, etc) paired with Unreal Engine 5 are just about ready for TRULY realistic immersion, and just needs pairing with a VR headset that can display it. 3. They should reach out to VR haptic glove manufacturers, allowing controls by, for example, touching different fingertips to your thumb tip without needing physical buttons or separate controllers. The next step up is artificial physical resistance built onto the gloves so you can FEEL items you pick up. This technology already exists, it just needs unifying and standardising.

[@CallsignVega]

Doubtful any two persons sharing the headset will have similar IPD's.

[@shenmeowzo]

Sounds pretty cool. But ive got so used to pass-thru and the fan for keeping cool on PSVR2, i think this would feel a bit awkward and too warm. And dropping 20° in horizontal FOV would really hurt. But like you said, a good step in the right direction.

[@GoldSabre]

These are really impressive headsets. That said, I'm waiting for eye-tracking + AI rescaling before moving away from my Index - stuttery performance is the worst immersion break, so making maximally efficient use of hardware is what I'm hoping for.

[@TheLonelyViper]

Ive ordered mine. Thanks gals!

[@brianschwarm8267]

I don’t think I can downgrade on FOV from my valve index tbh. But this looks super intriguing and I hope they offer better FOV models soon.

[@TheosGaming1]

The FOV has been changed to 103 the y just announced the improvement in glare and more

[@brianschwarm8267]

@@TheosGaming1 that’s awesome, still below index unfortunately. But man if I only had my quest, they’d have my money in a heartbeat.

[@farmertrueVR]

What are your thoughts on the Beyond and the Varjo Aero? The Cas and Chary Varjo Aero video was one that made me confident in purchasing one. I'm a daily Varjo Aero user that is still blown away by it after 7 months of owning one and 700ish hours later. It truly is nearly perfect for my wants and needs. But I must say the Beyond has caught my eye. I think the customized facial interface is something all HMD's should offer (a company needs to jump on this idea for all HMD's) and the specified IPD is special. But the micro OLED and weighing next to nothing seems special. I'd love to hear what somebody thinks between the Aero and Beyond.

[@Karathefox]

On the IPD thing: how does the fixed IPD make it non-resellable? Since you can buy a new custom faceplate if you get one secondhand, you could just put the IPD on an eBay listing; like listing used cars with different specs. People looking for secondhand ones can then just browse for ones near their own IPD!

[@travissmith5994]

Adult IPD ranges from 51-77mm, and for something like this you'd want an exact match. "Close enough" might cut it for the Quest, but if you're buying a customized headset anyway why settle for it being off like that?

[@Karathefox]

@@travissmith5994 You′d definitely want it to be spot on!

[@ThyTrueNightmare]

I would love one of these but the price is the issue plus being unable to share is a major downfull, I am a VR Game developer and I would basically be in this thing 6 hours+ a day, pass though seems like something this headset needs due to its small from factor rather then the reverse.

[@snowmind]

Great review Cas, keep it up.

[@ComdrStew]

This with eye tracking and a active cooling system would be a perfect headset.

[@Glowbox3D]

Great vid. I'm going to hold off a bit longer. My Index is great, and its quality and form don't bother me too much. I can wait a few more years until these next gen models go down in price.

[@jag1963]

This opens the door to the next step in VR. This is what i have been waiting for.

[@nyulia4491]

1300€ only for the headset, so we have to add 320€ for two base station 2.0 from valve plus 300€ for two valve controller so it made a total of 1920€, it's to expensive for what we get, okay it's smaller and weightless, and it's nice it fit perfectly your face because of the custom face mask, it's way not affordable for something that's being designe to be for everyone, i was super interested for this headset but now i think it's bad for the cost this vr get. oh and i forgot something, i don't like apple and i found this absurd that we need an iphone or ipad to scan our face

[@francisdebriey3609]

I will go for it... when field of view doubles horizontally. But clearly, this headset shows the direction to all competitors: smaller, lighter, and more comfortable. I believe that once you tried it, you don't want to switch back to a big, fat heavy one anymore

[@WikiPeoples]

definitely considering picking one of these up ... gotta vote with your dollar and this is the direction I want VR to go.

[@buhthebee]

Since I already have steam vr set up with the index, I'm definitely interested in this, especially since it won't feel like I'm wasting my index because I can hand it down to my brother. This headset seems like the vr to get just because of its size and how well it preforms compared to it. I want to feel immersed, and a vr headset that doesn't feel like a brick strapped to my face will be amazing

[@ytubeanon]

6:24 Notepad++ fuck yeah! the most important subject in any review for this headset is how big a difference did the light weight play in the experience... this was mentioned in the video, but I want even more, like would this factor completely dominate every other VR headset?

[@vrgameplays8208]

How this headset compares to Varjo Aero in terms of visuals? Is there a huge difference? In terms of FOV and resolution/crispy image?

[@ja-no6fx]

im definitely getting that, i dont need shitty speakers, stand alone capabilities or any of that stuff. a vr display is all i need. The only thing I would ask for is wireless capability at the same bandwidth that dp is capable of, but thats way way down the road.

[@MyCoolStrawSir]

Some one else said they recomend this heaset if your looking to upgrade from headset like the index or htc i can agree. Since i can use steam vr tracking with Oculus headsets (not well enough to justify troubleshooting every time i want to play a game), i would love this headset to replace my index.

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

Why not just sell all that outside in tracking junk off and buy a inside out tracked headset?... outside in tracking is dead, and it should have never even been a thing.

[@Ashley-1917]

​@@Nobody-Nowhere lmao no. Lighthouse tracking beats every camera-tracked headset by miles. It's a far more robust solution.

[@cheeeeezewizzz]

@Common Ground A robust solution that the entire industry is abandoning as fast as they possibly can. Customers don't want to spend all that extra on basestations, it's terrible for enterprise implementations outside of arcades, and the tech in them is owned by Valve, HTC can't even make basestations anymore, they were breaking the law and had to stop making them. So nobody wants to deal with that shit

[@Ashley-1917]

@@cheeeeezewizzz Its a different market. Inside-out works for low-medium end devices, but for anything serious, I'm going to want a solution that can support good FBT, that can see my controllers beyond the narrow volume that camera tracking can see, that doesn't require me to buy looking at my hands, that isn't dependent on lighting conditions etc etc

[@naia_love]

@@cheeeeezewizzz HTC is still producing 1.0 bases, and yes the tech was made by valve (i mean the whole og htc vive was made by valve), but htc 100% have the rights to produces and sell it. and while it was valve that was producing 2.0, HTC had right to sell them and now Valve recently delegated their production of 2.0 bases to HTC completely. so i have no idea what you talking about x) Its still the most precise trackinhg tech, and basically a must have for anything professional (i mean steamvr tracking is used by alot of little to medium professional company that for exepemple cannot afford 100k motion tracking tech or whatnot). used alot in amateur filming and all, as yea it actually cost nothing for prosumer grade of tracking and as of today camera tracking *is* broken, its imprecise and very limited, while yes it is a cost mpri for the consumer, the best would be to reduce further their cost if you want the best experience in the end, base stations are thi way to go in terms of reliability and precision. without forgetting if you want trackers for your body or worst others object in your playspace. as of now, we dont have any teck to hav tha much precision, and with no drift, than external base.

[@AnxiousGary]

How dare you exploit Milkyway like that! I immediately hit the like button when they appeared on screen, it's working 😂

[@geoffhatch4996]

Honestly, I'd love to get a new PC to upgrade my gaming PC from 2020, and then get a Bigscreen Beyond to act as my main monitor stuff. Seems very fun for me.

[@hughmanwho]

Holding off for the Somnium VR1.. much better display and some neat features.

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

I wonder how will this stand up to the upcoming iQIYI 5k+ micro oled headset, that has the same panels but also come with the XR2, and passthrough cameras. IPD adjustment and all that.

[@cheeeeezewizzz]

Ah yes, strapping a Chinese propaganda screen directly to your face, truly a man of culture.

[@TRX25EX]

​@@cheeeeezewizzzyou know that chinese had this panel before even BigScreen right? Arpara entered the chat even though it wasn't delivered to Kickstarter customers but the headset did make Chinese market and currently Pimax is best VR experience in the world and it's also Chinese with Crystal..... Infact your phone is Chinese

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

@@cheeeeezewizzz Well, at least its communist propaganda and not this western decadent capitalist shait.

[@clerooth]

Major difference between chinese design companies and chinese manufacturers that work for other country design companies. Iphones are designed in USA, built in China but they are still quality tested by USA.

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

@@clerooth Yeah, and what we got? A closed ecosystem designed to milk max profit out of clueless consumers while trying to prevent repairability.

[@mrmidnight32]

NGL, this is as big a leap as the launch of the index and the quest 2. This will improve and help drive VR into the future. I’m on the fence. But I’m already invested in VR. I might buy the next Gen but this is a huge leap for VR. I hope they continue innovating. They’re into something here

[@haywardgg]

Quest 3 will be on my shopping list this year. I'm not paying more than $500 for a VR headset! Quest 2 has served me well, I've also tried the Pico 4 which convinced me that Quest 3 is my ultimate VR headset. If they drop the price on this device, maybe I'll consider it, but right now it's way too expensive for what you get compared to other products at half the price.

[@Belgarath777]

Great video. FOV is too small, so I'll pass. I won't buy anything less than 110.

[@Puffycheeks]

Excellent video! Was interested what long-term use for this headset was like and now I kind of want one.. Cool to see two separate face cushions side by side as well.

[@farrael004]

I might get something like this if the price drops. At the current cost, its just too much for something I don't even know how long I'll be using it for.

[@EmblemParade]

I'm so, so excited to get mine. :) As for sharing with others, I still have an original Vive that I will keep around for guests. But obviously the inability to share (and easily sell) is the Beyond's major downside.

[@_Spacecraft]

Wow the microphone quality is extremely good. Headset manufacturers need to take notice.

[@Lithonion1]

Love seeing another company working on PC dedicated HMDs. I don't like the remote tracking stations, no room for that. So still using my Rift S and just keep hoping someone will make something close to that type of hardware.

[@miguelperestrelo368]

Hello. I have some questions. My pc is a i7 7700k with 1070gpu. Will it run with bigscreen vr?

[@AndroidOO3]

This video is the reason I bought my Beyond! Still waiting though.. 😂 4 months...... Ugh! I'm dying!!!!

[@BLU3NX]

How's the fov compared to a vive cosmos? I have the elite but fov and comfort are lacking.

[@Shinyshoesz]

Once iterated upon, it's a goal headset. After having the Quest 2, the only disappointment I've had is the weight and comfort factor. If they can increase the FOV and we can somehow get some pancake lenses with a slightly higher resolution, I'm sold on it even if I have to get base stations. I think until we can get major advancements, wired/tethered high-end VR is just flat out a better experience than standalone games can muster right now. Thanks for the review!

[@whisperingegg7339]

I want one but I worry that my GPU isn't up to scratch. I have a 6750XT which is over minimum but I don't have any existing VR to have a good understanding of what to expect.

[@nathan4853]

Very cool headset, but there's no way I would spend that much on a headset that the rest of my family can't also use. If they added adjustable IPD, and the ability to order additional face pads, though, I'd be all over this.

[@jeremydavis43]

No vr exp from me but that fov is the main thing that deteres me from this yet my goal is immersion and hear this one is great for that. What a hard decision to make. =(

[@businesscompanyvr4788]

Man that headset looks SOOO comfy!

[@VRCentral]

Itd be incredible to try it out but id never be able to lay my hands on one lol

[@knight_____________]

That's exactly what I dream about, yes. I think this is awesome for any VR enthusiasts with a couple extra bucks. We're a household with 3 users on the same headset so sadly no good for us. Maybe one day when we win the lottery.

[@jeffbrownstain]

Ask the asshole a few comments up saying they have five headsets if they'll loan you an extra 🤷‍♀️

[@jameskirk4692]

Nice review. Thank you!

[@DJ_K0D4]

Neat idea but if they require you to have X or Y product to make something for that unit then... yeah pass. It's like saying "Yeah you can ice cream, but you'll need a car, a license, and sign a waver incase you get brain freeze". I think it's a good idea to have more headsets do custom shapes, however it needs to have alternative options (that are included in the cost) or a cheaper option without it (make your own with open source files).

[@choppergirl]

So I don't understand, if it's custom made to fit your IPD and face shape, how are other people going to be able to use it, and how are you going to be able to resell it later?

[@goodtyme]

its not really meant to be shared but you could share it with someone if thier ipd is close to yours and they order their own custom face gasket

[@unfinishedsente]

Better FOV and either two USB ports or a split cable with the ability to connect to an external battery and smartphone running Virtual Desktop client would be nice. You could have your phone and battery in your pockets or strapped to your chest or something and play wirelessly through your phone to your PC. If someone makes this, I'm buying it day one.

[@nav579]

I noticed your San Francisco shirt. Have you tried that VR gym on Market Street? I think it's around 10th street or so. I've been very curious about it.

[@dafonsecaalexis5355]

This for Flight simulator or DCS would be amazing!

[@stevetb7777]

I see the Kat Walk C2+ (I think) in your video. Did you ever review that one? I only see your review for the C.

[@proximityfpv1722]

I have a reverb G2 with facemask mod. I can't really justify upgrading considering the lower field of view. I'm so bummed though... I have knuckles and a 4090 so it's ideal.... 1st world problems. I can't get knuckles to keep working with my reverb g2 setup reliably, so I need a good option soon...

[@森里螢一-f3c]

I'd like to order this beyond but unfortunately first batch will be for US and a few other countires only...by that time i think we can get Apple headset already...

[@covertpuppytwo3857]

at time 5:00 what game is that? I hope BigScreen makes a second version with a bigger FOV... I can't see myself spending $1000 to drop the FOV with my HP G2.

[@ObsequiousV4]

which direction is the narrow FOV in? Horizontal or vertical?

[@David-gu8hv]

Trackers for our beverages, NICE! I want one!!!

[@willybilly8187]

I wish the foam would have a cloth material touching your face rather then the rubber cause rubber makes you sweat. Maybe I could apply material on it.

[@Lorecastapendragon]

After using the vive Pro 2 wireless I can't go back to wired vr but this looks pretty good

[@Skylancer727]

Sadly full dive sounds to be impossible due to some recent studies. Some studies have recently shown that motor control isn't actually stored in the brain but the nervous system close to the part of functionality. That means full dive VR wouldn't just need a brain stem connection, it'd need links all over the body. We'd basically have to be full cyborgs.

[@Nhoj1983]

I have it pre ordered but am on the fence about if I'll get this or the pimax crystal. My current headset is a vive pro 2. I seriously had to work to get this thing "somewhat" comfortable as it's very front heavy in a way that wasn't true for the original vive so comfort is a high priority in my next piece. The advantage here is that it's comfortable and an easy fit into my current setup. It's also six hundred dollars less than the crystal but misses a lot of extra features that thing has. Biggest two things that I know of is the the better lenses that don't glare and the fov. Add in eye tracking and the potential for foviated rendering along with inbuilt off ear audio for pre orders and you have something good. Then again, I'll have to buy a lighthouse tracker to add to the price as I do prefer outside in tracking. I do have a sneaking suspicion that the beyond will come out on top in just use though as it looks that much easier to just pop on so I am torn but that's good for the industry so I guess win win? I'd love to see more direct comparisons though.

[@sophiebear9985]

The vive pro 2 is SO UNCOMFORTABLE. I feel like you would like the beyond wayyyyyyy more and probably question how you even put up with the vive for so long haha.

[@alexnorth3393]

Comfort is SO important. WAY too expensive though..

[@kairon156]

Currently saving up for a 2nd hand laptop so I'm keeping track of what's current and coming soon in the VR market.

[@crub1n0]

Finally we will have a HMD that make us feels NOT wearing a scuba diving helmet (blurry,bulky, heavy) ... eventhough it's still narrow FOV; at least it's now very lighter. The bulky and heavy HMD were the reason why until today I've prefer only making "underwater VR games"... that the only genre that make me feel the reality of VR thing... LOL!! =)) Still curious with Apple HMD , will they ship it with retina display panel? ;)

[@andrewkosenko2757]

Is it possible to put several monitors in the vr like in quest 2 and work in it?

[@KenOtwell]

I want to upgrade from my Rift S... Quest 3 or the Beyond? Well... optional disconnected and internal tracking is very important to me, so - Q3 so far.

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

Pimax Crystal if you want the best inside out tracked headset.

[@torgilmitjasvensson7524]

Can recommend checking out pico 4 as well, if you wanna have a wireless PCVR experience for a good price och quality

[@KenOtwell]

@@Nobody-Nowhere $1,600 is a bit much and it's not even released yet.

[@KenOtwell]

@@torgilmitjasvensson7524 Hmm. Promising! Thanks.

[@R83TV]

I might wait for the next one they come out with. Taking what they did with this one and improve. For now I'll keep my Quest 2 and enjoy that as long as I can :)

[@JohnnyBlayze]

Youll be waiting a long time, after all this is pretty cutting edge in terms of display and comfort, props to you if you can deal with the Quest 2 and the growing issues that arrive after prolonged use but in waiting at least youll have more options aside from Beyond

[@shadowsilverlight1651]

​@@JohnnyBlayze for me, it was better to start with quest 2 and find out if its something i plan to stay with and not put aside after some time. i can enough my quest 2 until i decide if i want to spend extra for a better headset. at least if i run into any problems that you claim they have, i didnt spend 1000 on it.

[@anahata8870]

Thank you cas ! I am still interrsted in their product and i do not find a single person having a never iphone near me...i think they should do something about that ! I could be a customer once the fov news come in in a few days...

[@clerooth]

Even the company bigscreen recommends to just go to an apple store and get a quick face scan there. If you dont have an iphone or have a friend with one