The Big Issue with the Athlete Podcast Space

Live from SXSW, Bomani Jones discusses the growing world of athlete podcasts and why even though some of them might be good, there is a bigger problem looming.
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[@jrizzle1790]

Bruh didn't even realize everyone is copying Jalen & Jacoby. Miss that pod!

[@vinnieharper]

"Got to give the people.... Give the people what they waaaaaannnnt!!"

[@TheDoBetterPodcast]

im shocked they never restarted the podcast considering neither of them are on ESPN.

[@lilrosco5000]

Facts. I miss them being together

[@alberttate8198]

I thought and still feel their chemistry was genuine. Felt like they were friends and not coworkers just tryna talk before they clockout. Some of these new podcast with athletes and a random guy seems forced. Always wondered why a young white guy was "hosting" Prime's podcast a few years ago.

[@ayoonine]

Same and I loved Jalen and Jacoby

[@Vitamindeboy]

The moral of the story is no one cares about the middle man anymore. We want the information straight from the source. We don’t want the 3rd party spin on it.

[@ShaunBlack4Prez]

If the 3rd party wasn't spinning the stories so ridiculously, this evolution would've never happened. They did it to themselves smh

[@franklinauguste415]

Thank you 👍🏿

[@cmack17]

Be clear, you are simply getting another type of spin.

[@tatedagoat]

I hear you. But sometimes the source isn’t that great. They are good, some stories are cool. But you realize that some of the athletes are not entertaining or are relatable.. just my 2 Lincoln’s

[@franklinauguste415]

@@tatedagoat so you think ESPN guys are more entertaining.🤦🏿‍♂️

[@siniister710]

it sucks jalen and jacoby aren't still active. That show was fire man.

[@andrewebb3283]

Lame ass whiteboy was nothing

[@EglintonAve]

I'm confident that there would be an audience for them if they decided to get back in.

[@bellymus1]

This reminds me of the mid 00's, when music changed for us. We went from Albums, and music controlled by the labels, radio, etc., to now being digested on Spotify, Soundcloud, KZbin, and now every artist Major/Minor just releases Singles daily/weekly, there's so much content you can hardly take time to digest a song, before the next one is out. Podcasts, and sports coverage. Is it better? In some ways it is, in many it's just quantity of quality.

[@Freerider93]

In all ways. It's not just music. It's news, movies. Everything is low quality just a lot of it.

[@topshotta8856]

Spot on bro 💯

[@marcusjackson8084]

It is all a residual effect of the digitalization of media and society in general. Every industry has a bunch of high level companies and corporations that have switched to focusing on quantity over quality when decades of traditional practices preached the opposite, so it’s a weird sudden jump from one end of the spectrum to the other. We’ll balance back out eventually but we’re just in one end of the extreme right now. Like this shit was so sudden we’ve switched to streaming as our primary way of accessing media and we still haven’t even established a standard of what a stream is worth yet.

[@jonming6676]

That Jalen & Jacoby reference is so true. Just like how Pardon the Interruption with Wilbon and Kornheiser birthed a generation of sport debate shows of two guys just yelling at each other. You can say this with just the podcast space in general. There’s too many morons with microphones that sit out on a couch and spew whatever comes to their mind. And that dilutes the significance from the truly great ones that are both entertaining and informative. And especially when some athletes that have money, influence and surrounded by yes men that won’t tell them the truth that what they’re doing is bad.

[@butchsmith-rt1ok]

I will take further back than pardon the interruption....the sports reporter that came on espn every Sunday

[@butchsmith-rt1ok]

Jalen and jacoby was hot.

[@bigwillie54]

@@butchsmith-rt1okyeah I was gonna say the sports reporters was the first of the sports debates show way back

[@Rico513]

I miss J&J. I was literaly a day 1 Jalen Rose Report listener and it hurts seein Jalen randomly on twitter and seeing Jacoby in the slums on FS1. Glad Bo shouted em out like the OGs they are for current media

[@alberttate8198]

​@Rico513 use to work graveyard shift several years ago; had there podcast on to get through the night. First time I heard the story of Jalen stealing Patrick Ewing's TV I was cracking up at 1am prepping breakfast for the hotel

[@TheRulersBack18]

the point on jalen and jacoby is why i still listen to bomani. i was wondering why i hate all of those podcasts, and that's it in a nutshell

[@El_Fonzo]

😂😂😂

[@OutTheMudFilms]

2:13 the best content wins. No more gate keepers. Im happy to see athletes in the space

[@TheKingofsoccor]

I like hearing the stories and getting the real from the players. Not that pushing a narrative stuff like the so called professional reporters

[@kbmariontv1736]

@@TheKingofsoccorthe players are pushing narratives too and sometimes their bias is clear

[@twilitezn]

@@TheKingofsoccor True...but this just means that the name on the gate keeper's/narrative pusher's "desk" just changed....and we'll like it until THAT gets old.

[@jayyyhammm]

We wanna hear from the people that do it and not the ones that hang around people that do it

[@franklinauguste415]

I love when people go so hard to convince others how hard there job is .😂

[@matdouglas6631]

the problem with getting things "straight from the athlete" is there is going to be a level of bias in certain situations...any story being told has its own biases and perspectives

[@jdankerdake]

There is bias in all media, including mainstream. Fox News and MSNBC are politically biased in their coverage, and ESPN and FS1 are biased by only covering a small percentage of sports and players, even when they’re decreasingly relevant on the playing field/court (why so much coverage of the 6th, 9th and 10th seeded Suns, Lakers and Warriors?).

[@tygur23]

The cool kids got tired of the dorks criticizing them

[@s.omarjobe1068]

💯. The only thing I think Bomani missed is that the decline of the trust with media started when they started holding athletes hostage in Hall of Fame votes when they didn’t like them or when the athlete didn’t give them access during their playing time. That was the beginning of the end!

[@QuotesTwentyfourseven]

Shout-out to Bomani for keeping it 💯!

[@RoeLuv1]

Just like in the early 2000’s when every rapper had a clothing line, the good podcasts will survive, the ones who’s hearts aren’t in it, will not

[@jamesmason3514]

Hoodie is amazing

[@TheRealDJTabone]

@10:22 Bomani hit it-- but also knocked it w/ a little low-key shade. These talking heads are becoming increasingly irrelevant. YOU CAN'T TELL A STORY BETTER THAN THE PERSON WHO LIVED IT-- NO MATTER HOW MANY YEARS YOU "COVERED" THE SPORT. EVERYONE has CONTENT. But do you have CONTEXT?!? That is the TRUE distinction IMO.

[@kiroolioneaver8532]

Yep and with the democratization of sports (availability of stats and clips, etc), even amateurs (people with day jobs) and fans are also proviving they can break down the game and provide analysis at a level better than some so-called sports journos can. The real reason why sports journos were big was because of limited access and gatekeeping (i.e. you usually had to go to school get a degree, work as a beat reporter, etc.). Now because of KZbin and podcasts, you don't need to. If I want analysis, I don't need to go to the sports journos anymore. Sports journos are basically entertaninment reporters. Amateur movie critics are bigger than many professional critics it was only a matter of time lol The athletes can prodvide that behind-the-scenes stuff that no journo or fan can have and that's their value.

[@MalikEKC]

If that was true, athletes wouldn't have writers ghostwrite their autobiography

[@kiroolioneaver8532]

@@MalikEKC To be fair a lot of these sports journos can't write for ish either lol (a lot of them are saved by their copy editors who are able to finetune what they turn in into something that is readable lol).

[@T-Rizzle808]

​@@MalikEKC FYI an AUTObiography is written by an individual , athletes team up with writers for their Biography because they aren't writers by profession and a writer transcribes your story in a more expressive way

[@EZR725]

That's the thing with these athletes podcasts. I may click on a clip if the title is an athlete telling a firsthand account of an interesting story I never heard, but I'll NEVER EVER watch a whole podcast regularly. It's just a bunch of yes men there to agree with whatever the breadwinner says. Especially whenever he big ups himself lol

[@ronharrodjr]

Man I want Bomani as a mentor. All he does is drop gems.

[@El_Fonzo]

Not really

[@lamontwilliams115]

Stop It!

[@gmoney2663]

From what i gathered from watching this Its not until the actual athletes themselves started podcast that the genre is garbage and not when its a bunch of non-athletic out of shape dudes who went to school for journalism arguing like they could do and know better because they "cover" the sport The situation with Wade and CP3 he basically sound like he mad one of his colleagues or him didnt get the clicks or break the story...instead of being happy the story was told They are just showing yall they do not need yall and are getting big bags to tell THEIR story and not something somebody heard from "sources" whether u like the way they tell it or not I rather it come from the actually person then a pencil pusher...You cant call dudes unprofessional when they themselves arent trying to be

[@CoolerThanFanManne]

It is over saturated AF …. Waaaaay too many podcasts out there

[@5pazz]

Depends on your viewpoint.. The fact that there’s so many athletes giving you access to their perspective, you can choose who you want to watch and what perspective you want to hear more of based on who you liked when they were playing..

[@CoolerThanFanManne]

@@5pazz your absolutely right but I only want to hear from the ACTUAL ATHLETE not his friends/homies like Paul George podcast or Jeff Teague podcast. Like who TF are these bums talking, I don’t want their opinions on anything but the McDonald’s menu.

[@5pazz]

@@CoolerThanFanManne I feel that part as well lol I absolutely hate Josiah’s cadence from Gil’s arena 🤣

[@play030]

It's called competition. Somthing you don't like because you can't compete.

[@VicDamoneJr82]

He nailed this I’m tired of this saturated garbage… it’s these gambling companies promoting this garbage

[@BLACKMAAT]

STEPHEN A SMITH IS SATURATED GARBAGE ON STEROIDS

[@desmonddavis3422]

You call it saturated but ppl rather watch ppl who have played talk about things and keep it real vs politics. I would rather listen to Draymond or Cam over Malika andrews

[@VicDamoneJr82]

@@desmonddavis3422 enjoy ! It was nice after the first couple episodes but now they are desperate for views

[@mrfabulous17]

This ninja Bo is different!!

[@koreyhall3462]

Thank god Bo said it

[@Freerider93]

Seriously

[@El_Fonzo]

Said what?

[@naomisang4922]

He is correct about the Athlete needing a professional....i tried getting into CamRon because he had interesting guest, but all of his questions were led with a preamble....i dont have time for that...just ask the next question and keep the story flowing....i cant listen to just anybody anymore...more eyes are becoming more discerning

[@marcusmontague1275]

Athletes who have been playing seen they were young have every right to talk about sports and they have more experience and insight than the reporter do.

[@ExposetheManosphere]

I enjoy them, but only like a handful (Nightcap is top for me). But the more they proliferate, I noticed some of the weaknesses.

[@vizionaryentertainment8464]

"We gone find a ball player, we gone find a homeboy and get out here and talk" lmao

[@waynebuckley6946]

Killa Cam is not trying to be like you guys Bomani, hes trying to do your job and still be himself 😂😂

[@Hail2daChief]

So he tryna be like them.. otherwise he wouldn’t have that job

[@El_Fonzo]

​@@Hail2daChief😂😂😂 wrong

[@3COI]

Cam and Mase are trying to be like them. They are non-athletes giving their opinions on sports and interviewing real athletes. They even have ex-athletes as regular guests/analysts. They definitely put their own spin on all of it (like everyone does), but the blueprint their following is from traditional sports media

[@El_Fonzo]

@@3COI Cam and Ma$e aren't trying to be like anybody, they doing them... if that's the case then everyone with a sports show is try to be like everyone else with a sports show.

[@3COI]

@@El_Fonzo they are lol. They're all following the blueprint and putting their spin on it. Why do you think they have moderators? Why do you think they speculate? Why do you think they discuss sports news? Why do you think they interview players? Why do you think they tell stories about their interactions with players or try to relate what a player is going through to something they went through? None of that is new. It's all part of the blueprint

[@11FBA11]

Sadly, the media created the problem. The athletes saw the media was very biased towards them and relied on "hot takes", with very little regard for professionalism. The athletes can definitely do that at the same level of "professionals ". The only problem with athlete Podcasters is that once they have told every behind the scenes story from their sports career, can they still keep people interested?

[@JYP1M]

At the core I know what he means, but far as them being “good at the job” pretty subjective when you are talking about sports athletes, rappers, etc. The power of the celebrity is what people crave the most.

[@TwntyUp]

the star treatment diminishes quickly over long form content

[@DEEtv365]

I remember in 2012 Bomani had his KZbin show he would show on Tues/Thurs....That show was GOLD! Uncensored sports show 10 years before any of these platform...He's one of the best hands down.

[@JayDaReactor]

Cam said it a while ago when he started, that he wanted to be different and that's what he did. He is a rapper doing a sports show. But I remember Jalen and Jacoby and that show was the blueprint as well as Pardon The Interruption. The problem with these sports guys is they don't do the work to get better. I think that's why the Pivot is successful you have RC who took the time to get better at his craft and aligned himself with two other guys who shared the same ambition. Great analysis Bomani

[@11FBA11]

The athlete podcasts might have a short shelf life, but the professional media will need to show that they are professionals as well to show the difference.

[@KeezCEOKidd]

somewhere along the lines, I forgot he was talking about podcasting and began to think about how everything he's saying also applies to being a rapper

[@jus3278]

I agree with Bomani. I feel the same way about rappers who do podcasts and podcasts in general.

[@WhoisDJNox]

New Media aka Athlete driven media is slowly taking over but will it sustain? is a good question. Bomani is right in that there are certain intangibles athletes miss out on. But, that's also why people like them.

[@steevesaintvil6668]

This was explained extremely well. Felt this way a while now.

[@5pazz]

It’s simple pick who like to hear from and listen.. Athletes gives a perspective and insight that someone who never played on that level can give, the stories from the locker room, the emotions attached to certain situations and moments.. If I want to listen to average joes talk about sports I can go to the internet and participate 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@kiroolioneaver8532]

I've liked Bo for a long time but hearing him here (as well as Stephen A on another podcast recently) and it sounds like actors from the silent film era talking about how the talkies won't take off and that it's just a fleeting fad. Ditto radio serial stars talking about how colour TV soap operas will never catch on. They had a great run and that's something to be proud of and they got to capitalize and get rich doing it. But the music is starting to wind down and the lights are dimming on the era of the sports opinionator lol

[@5pazz]

@@kiroolioneaver8532 and I couldn’t be more happy.. Soon the only opinions that will matter are the ones of the people who actually worked to earn a voice

[@elstcman5]

@@kiroolioneaver8532 not sure you heard him correctly fr. he said its changing things, but the money is going to run out. Adding sound to movies was a technological change of the industry, meaning that it made for more jobs and expanded the earning power of the industry product. but the idea of athletes taking over podcasts isn't supported by a new advancement at all: its just replacing the workers of the old podcast/opinion model with more famous and athletic people. It's diminishing the opportunity (the money) generated by the industry by making it accessible to less qualified people. but also, it's not just anybody... it's only people who are famous for playing. Now maybe if all those athletes got together and started their own media company eventually and hired professionals, that's different... but right now idk bro

[@mega1media124]

The audience don’t care about self proclaimed “professional” we actually want the opposite. We want an in with the cool kids, we want the homeboy vibe.

[@jetlife2thenextlife371]

I just think it’s so ironic that players will hate on reporters when their critical on their game saying they never played this sport while some of these reporters have spent decades being journalists studying their craft n an athlete will get a mic and camera n think they can do their job

[@Jerm408502]

Athletes refuse to criticize their colleagues or former colleagues, even when it's warranted. Sports journalist might do it too much, but don't want to hear someone's opinion who never has any criticism.

[@sudukemsn]

That’s why I can’t watch Nightcap. It’s just Ocho cappin for all the nfl players

[@tank1997mb]

Damn Bo, talk yo shit!

[@Mdautkreix]

Just summed up why I just can’t click with the manufactured Melo & Mero pod. Really want to but just can’t. You can tell who easy bake oven’d the grind for a check.

[@gilfordmccormack8140]

I Believe Bomani made some valid points regarding the content game being oversaturated but, I believe that it's dope that the Athletes have gotten involved with the content game because they provide different insights due to fact they actually participated in these Sports and they can actually give us the inner workings of certain situations. Also the Athlete can finally control their narrative instead of allowing someone to speak on them and give an inaccurate take on a situation which happens on a lot of network platforms.

[@jrtolber]

Credit to Jalen and Jacoby for sure. Sports radio has also tried to get the former local athlete and pair them with a local DJ. The TV format and the depth on conversion that J&J was unmatched. It felt less forced that other on air relationships.

[@keldur16]

Apple ran music applications much better than windows at one point. It was based on performance and became an elitist thing. But it was because Apple was actually superior.

[@tonyptone3000]

I think journalists, sports writers, and media professionals should have jerseys.

[@ralami6183]

Got the journalist boiling, this is becoming the topic in all over. Let it happen Bo😂😂

[@charlescoulter7872]

Opinion no matter how you dress it up with theories, analysis, and showmanship, is still a point of view you want to land with an audience. I don't care who prepared the food i care if the process is clean and if it taste good. Experience is subjective and we are in the microwave era.

[@Hendrix.Robinson]

Tis was 15 minutes of hate LMAOOO!! I ain’t mad though. He right about Jalen and Jacoby, that was and oldie but classic mention 🫡

[@desmonddavis3422]

I'm a minute in and had to stop cuz I knew he was hating that ppl doing his job better and with real life stories to go with

[@mr.ks.7083]

I watched Jalen and Jacoby thinking, 🤔 I wish I could hear from someone else other than Jalen. Today’s space hits!

[@bosunibrahim4924]

One thing being overlooked is that it cannot really be saturated because it’s personality driven. If I liked said athlete as a player, I’ll likely give his podcast a shot. If pro-athletes are not over saturated, then them sharing their viewpoints can’t be oversaturated, it can just be either good or bad.

[@lexis4490]

I think it’s harder for player podcast to be consistent, but lot of them are interesting. Cam Newton for example, I actually like way more now that he has a podcast then when he was a player.

[@jamesmonzon213]

I honestly a agree with him on the over saturation and professionalism but i rather watch a pod with athletes asking the questions

[@jyanharris7957]

BO sounds like low key hating!! Also understand the reason why it's so many and people are getting paid is because when you guys were hustling for ESPN and other networks a lot of people were not watching those TV shows! And the journalist didn't understand that part!

[@smuj77]

So the industry of media? Or that people are sick of “hot take” ppl who don’t know sports and just rather hear from people who played

[@MrEforty]

Cam has 2 different platforms: Funky Friday, which he does at his cigar lounge (Fellaship) in ATL, and his 4th &1 sports, etc; type show where he gives an inside perspective to the outer masses. All this is run by his full service production company (Iconic Saga), which he founded in 2012. I think he's off to a great start! Oh, and check out Fellaship in ATL . #WDE

[@jayyyhammm]

Bo sounds like he is trying to tell us don’t forget about him. lol they had their run and it’s just about over

[@aprilaries164]

Hilarious that I literally just made a comment on another channel echoing similar thoughts about them all feeling the same suddenly. It’s devolving to “tea” conversations, and it’s tough to jam media up for if you eventually arrive at the same yard. Gossip among athletes is still gossip. It eventually gets bland

[@anthonydavis3339]

U in the new era speaking from the past 😂

[@kgblitz1294]

The athletes make better content than the mainstream media.

[@88til_inf]

Some do. It’s been a flood of athlete podcast, most are mid

[@blackspider1405]

Eh.. no they don't. Very few of them are good.

[@yoyoyonono6329]

​@blackspider1405 just like mainstream media 🤦🏾‍♂️. Very few if any are good.

[@j0dahighs0undz76]

Ehhhhh

[@MalikEKC]

Most are ass. The athletes don't have anyone that gives them in push back

[@xchxmpagnepxpix]

Love the message. Why put Cam Newton in the thumbnail tho..

[@jewel6799]

Bingo, you hit the nail on the head.😊 Almost every athlete has a podcast. I noticed, a black player finds a white person, I guess to do what he cannot do, that is run a podcast😅 I have been complaining about the bad content, and the unprofessional way these podcasts are presented to us the viewers. Then some other podcasts objective is to take other people's content and talk about it, and ask viewers to comment. Please! We have a lot of followers, not many leaders, not many business people either. Let's face it, most players did not have time for school, or even to take a business course, I have been unsubscribing to all of them. Another big problem, these athletes don't understand that podcasts are on the world wide net. Most countries have access, not all countries approve of language like MF and FK on a public forum. It is about being professional, attracting viewers, and expanding a business. My husband and I, have stopped watching All the Smoke, Beverley podcast, and every podcasts with lots of swearing. Maybe they think it is cool. Well it is not. It just takes away from the podcasts. It depends on who is the guest, there is no swearing. Strange! The same Podcaster goes on ESPN or Fox as a guest analyst, and he does not swear. This is important because not all viewers are 18 to 24 years. It is a business, yet, there are people in shorts and flip flops. There is no Dress Code. The swearing is distracting, like each person is trying to outdo each other. It is embarrassing. 😢 If all the athletes have podcasts, who are their viewers? I can name at least a dozen current NBA players with podcasts.😊 Then you have the retired NBA players, who did not plan their retirement, so they have podcasts 😅 The NFL has the same.😅

[@joshuafootman1593]

Bomani is extremely educated, the brother is very smart.

[@play030]

All general terms that mean something different to everyone which makes it mean nothing.

[@nocturnus009]

I’m reminded of the sage perspective of Prince Rodgers Nelson: We have Accountants and Lawyers trying to run the Music Industry. Hopefully Alphabet gets humbled enough to listen to folks like Amy Webb [Future Today Institute] and sets up a corpus that can train A&R Ai?

[@PrincinnatiTV]

Jalen and Jacoby, the OG basketball/hip hop podcast... shouts to Bill Simmons.

[@jasonfenner360]

This sounds like Hate Bro. I thought Cam was going to be on this podcast so that’s why I watched this clip. No offense. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@CorviustheCollector]

“Get like us” is a little misguided. I think it’s more about them telling their own story. Now they just have the platforms to do it.

[@kinggozie]

this how i feel bout bron new pod, that shit had me snoozing

[@jameswashington7304]

I need that Hoodie Bo! Point me in the right direction please

[@securethebag1613]

they decided when podcasters started signin 7, 8, and 9 figure deals lmao

[@Fffrrreeessshhhhh313]

Give the people what they want

[@Professor_X713]

It smells like HATE, because the traditional media can’t compete in the new direct to consumer model. Athletes now control their voices, and even the mid content that comes from athletes > traditional media.

[@lamontwilliams115]

Yeah it's hate! He can sound as eloquent as he wants. Things change! You can make analysis all day long, but do you truly understand.

[@jamaal8786]

I think it has more to do with the obsession/addiction of people whiling to listen to any and everything. Now is a good time to promote progressive content and not just content for clicks. That's really whats played out. (Real) Content>presentation regardless. Authenticity>fluff... Presentation can be developed. Rather hear something real than a polished presentation of something surface level which is what a lot of traditional media is. Bottom line who's creating progressive/ insightful/ and inspiring content that fills voids. And not just gossip and spectating, whether your trained or not.

[@Juthecomedian]

This one of Bo best segments

[@dwood82]

Being a journalist doesn’t mean you’re good, it means you were first.. once people found it was a different way to ingest sports stories they cared about, they gravitated to those outlets. “Professional” journalism is not the standard anymore and they gotta get over it.

[@brotherLee340]

That's not necessarily true. Real journalist can get things from all sides. They could talk from the owners perspective, coach's perspective and players. Because all sides will lie individually. The reporters job was to get the truth.

[@sebeku2]

There will be more shows where you have an athlete paired with a sports journalist to balance it out. Sports journalists are shook because they don't have the juice they had or thought they had. You combine that with athletes who have multi-generational wealth and can hire quality production staffs...you don't need the networks nor the traditional sports journalists.

[@Samuelhill02]

Same with music

[@afrocentricsoul]

I love Bomani's take. If all you heard was hate, you didn’t listen fully and/or you don’t understand how to have nuanced conversations. He applauded those who do it well. I watch Cam Newton's content and was the biggest Cam fan as a player. Bomani is correct in that he has the framework for success, but I do wish he would hone in on the craft of storytelling and journalism more. He had a few missed opportunities during the super bowl because he had great guests but didn’t really know how to pull a story out of them.

[@that1kidjr]

PodCast P call out hahaha 4:40

[@blackdonjuan89]

No offense but if we have the option to Hear the story first person from the source I'd rather listen to the athlete then hear a watered down or sensationalized version from the journalist.

[@meanscene914]

Main problem for me is constant gambling promotion.

[@cjculbreth]

He’s right. It’s oversaturated to death. No hate here but it’s out of control

[@BigRobParty]

Podcasting has officially reached the point of oversaturation. Especially with athletes and entertainers. Most have NOTHING of interest to say, and a lot are unintelligent (just saying). It's the new money grab.

[@dantemccain]

is that guy related to Pablo Torre

[@LloydTanna]

I will say Boomer and TJ were the grandfathers, and Bill Simmons and Jalen Rose are the forefathers of the podcast.

[@JohnMFlores]

I love this era of throwing sh1t on the wall and seeing what sticks. A lot of these pods will ultimately shut down because they run out of stories or don't pop like they hoped and lose interest. And that's ok - they took a swing at it. But a handful will learn from their mistakes and figure out how to be sustainable. And that's cool.

[@Oakbeast]

only rich people and folks who don’t know how to really use computers use apple products

[@bornkinguniversal]

Where is Jalen and Jacoby being copied??? Give me some examples

[@TheKingofsoccor]

I dont want to hear from people who didnt play! They be fan boys trying to push narrative

[@TheKingofsoccor]

Professional or not.

[@jeremiahgibbons4467]

Media can blame no one but themselves. Skip and others push narratives without building relationships and we have come to this. Bitter writers sunk there on ship. This is not a shot at Boomani hes great.

[@yoyoyonono6329]

Sounds like hating from Bo, because Bo is projecting what he thinks the audience wants. The truth he is also ducking is media for years have been a medium for fans and athletes. With the advancement of technology, fans just dont need or want an useless middle man when you can get it straight from the source. Dispensaries have put a lot of dealers out of jobs too lol

[@mhatcher7612]

Idk if i would call a journalist a useless middle man. Imagine if instead of a local beat writer you had to get you information on your team from out of context game highlights, tweets, and athlete podcasts. Following them would become a nightmare

[@yoyoyonono6329]

@mhatcher7612 at this point if we had to wait until teams/players reported trades or signing or injuries. We wouldn't be missing much and I would argue would be actually better for sports. I also don't need a story told by a non athletic person.

[@kiroolioneaver8532]

I've liked Bo for a long time but hearing him here (as well as Stephen A on another podcast recently) and it sounds like actors from the silent film era talking about how the talkies won't take off and that it's just a fleeting fad. Ditto radio serial stars talking about how colour TV soap operas will never catch on. They had a great run and that's something to be proud of and they got to capitalize and get rich doing it. But the music is starting to wind down and the lights are dimming on the era of the sports opinionator lol

[@mhatcher7612]

@@yoyoyonono6329 That's transactional stuff. I'm talking trends, players that are streaking, new lineups or rotations. Things someone would only notice meticulously watching and having the access to ask questions, like a journalist or reporter. The decline in sports media isn't gonna hit guys like Bo first, it's gonna start with the guy covering the Pistons for the Detroit Free Press, or the person reporting on the Royals at spring training. Those are the folks you are grossly undervaluing

[@yoyoyonono6329]

@mhatcher7612 we wouldn't miss that and we don't need journalist or reporters for that. Places like Statmuse, Basketball reference, and tbh alot of gambling sites will keep people up to date with all of that and without an unnecessary bias. I disagree, I rock with Bo obviously since im here but Bo has been in the decline last 5 years. Bo really Pat Bev, he get a one year deal then the company parts ways. One year Bo.

[@gnarlieybrown4214]

When Bomani said "I'm college everybody I knew was trying to get like Cam, when did Cam start trying to get like me?" Sadly he knows exactly why ppl from our communities don't pursue journalism it's a matter of access, also you look real concerning in certain neighborhoods with a pen and pad just taking notes and asking ppl questions😂

[@luciusoglesby2469]

Also it shows that no one knows what they’re talking about cause SPORTS journalism dudes were almost the LAST to actually get into podcasting lol it was comedy and genre/geek entertainment shit first THEN these journalists who were still doing radio shows came WAAAAY after lolol It’s funny how he’s trying to take ownership over some shit that probably athletes/celebs did BEFORE media personalities started it

[@tod3msn]

Dude rambled and rambled and the sad fact is that athletes have horrible podcasts save Kelce Brothers and and a handful of others. They are too cliquish and sit there with their buddies who are mostly sports has beens and laugh at each others jokes. The media podcasts are much more polished and broadcasters have a huge advantage because they are trained to be entertaining.

[@corecrit3007]

FACTZ took 10 years to say 13 seconds 💩

[@s0sa1ty]

There are tons of bad podcasts from people in the media too lol

[@BLACKMAAT]

I WANTED JIM TROTTER TO BE INTERVIEWED BY BOMANI JONES ABOUT HIS LAWSUIT AGAINST THE NFL FOR RACIAL RETALIATION. I WANT BOMANI TO SOEAK ON WHY THIS HAS NOT HAPPENED .

[@brandonharrison3553]

Can’t anyone do anything

[@wizlb]

Yo B.. Let me break it down for you … in the mid 80s many non-player coaches were getting frustrated because they weren’t getting hired, because former NBA players were getting those HC jobs.. Now the athletes are encroaching on broadcasting .. and you guys are upset!

[@MikeWillis-si7lr]

This just isn’t true. We listened to sports writers because that’s all we had. Stephen A changed the game because he was actually talented and shook the nation. Otherwise I rather listen to athletes entertainers before sports writers because they actually have inside information. When writers loss access it was a wrap. We getting it straight from the source now buddy we really don’t need yall anymore.

[@singingchef23]

I whole disagree. I grew up with professionals and prefer skipping the middleman. The truth is, y'all are obsolete

[@terrootti]

The real test for those new athlete shows is when most of the players they played with will retire and the inside stories will run out.