The Biggest Cheater In Rocket League History

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Karl Jobst

Karl Jobst

Жыл бұрын

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Today we take a look at the biggest cheater in Rocket League history. It's a tale as old as time, but it's the first time to hit Rocket League at this magnitude. Enjoy!
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@karljobst
@karljobst Жыл бұрын
Shimmy vs Schmooey - Who did it better? Happy new years, I wish you all the best in 2023 you legends! Play War Thunder now with my link, and get a massive, free bonus pack including vehicles, boosters and more: playwt.link/karljobstwt
@charlo12
@charlo12 Жыл бұрын
who knows lol
@ggarzagarcia
@ggarzagarcia Жыл бұрын
Only a bloody legend like you is on point on putting a video on New Years Day directly in the Americas (already 12am)! Many best wishes and blessing to you and your family!!! 🎉
@Clementinee
@Clementinee Жыл бұрын
happy new year everyoneeeeeeeee
@Rabbit-the-One
@Rabbit-the-One Жыл бұрын
Thanks you absolute Legend.
@jaseiwilde
@jaseiwilde Жыл бұрын
happy new year!
@chubbbyninja
@chubbbyninja Жыл бұрын
I’ve always wanted to see when someone’s confronted about cheating they just immediately say something like ‘alright you got me lol’
@supersnizelz
@supersnizelz Жыл бұрын
maybe they exist but arnt as likely to blow up
@ed765super
@ed765super Жыл бұрын
In the ygo community, a store got caught reselling opened packs and that was basically their response.
@ytsuxmuhd4998
@ytsuxmuhd4998 Жыл бұрын
Ian Watkins the ex band member of Lostprophets did that. Except instead of cheating, it was ****ing minors.
@silverreaps6803
@silverreaps6803 Жыл бұрын
@@ytsuxmuhd4998 crazy thing to admit to
@serfaI
@serfaI Жыл бұрын
@@ytsuxmuhd4998 dont forget the baby stuff 💀
@eelmail2077
@eelmail2077 Жыл бұрын
This is why I really enjoy the existence of TAS communities. I’m totally cool and really love seeing crazy stuff done, as long as it is directly stated that it is using external tools.
@Caribbeanmax
@Caribbeanmax Жыл бұрын
exactly
@obsidiack1489
@obsidiack1489 Жыл бұрын
I feel like in certain games it's super interesting, but in this case it's not really as the thing that makes freestyling cool is the difficulty of it, it doesn't really accomplish anything whereas TAS is used in a lot of games to show theoretical maximums etc
@FloPe97
@FloPe97 Жыл бұрын
yeah exactly! i feel like having videos like those around wouldnt even be much of a controversy at all for the community, if he was just upfront about it being tool-assisted to look cooler, cause often inhuman stunts just look incredible to watch. It really is just him claiming he drove it by himself thats the fundemental issue.
@aliengenie8896
@aliengenie8896 Жыл бұрын
The funny thing in this case, is that if what Shimmy submitted these as TASes, it would *still* be cheating because there is no valid sequence of controls that would result in the same replay that Shimmy produced.
@TheSpacePlaceYT
@TheSpacePlaceYT Жыл бұрын
These are not called TASes btw but TAFs, which are Tool Assisted Freestyle replays instead of Tool Assisted Speedruns.
@fleshypatch8735
@fleshypatch8735 Жыл бұрын
I'd be terrified of cheating in any game now a days for fear Karl makes a banger of a video out of me.
@empressofhearts7300
@empressofhearts7300 Жыл бұрын
I'm eager to cheat in any game nowadays for joy Karl makes a banger video out of me.
@Josuh
@Josuh Жыл бұрын
there are two types of person
@mochabearry
@mochabearry Жыл бұрын
The duality of man.
@realeyesrealizereallies1194
@realeyesrealizereallies1194 Жыл бұрын
Your basically admitting you're a cheater.
@HalcyonSerenade
@HalcyonSerenade Жыл бұрын
I would make a new hit game under an alias, cheat a speed run using my real name, then manufacture a scandal around it in hopes Karl makes a banger video out of me
@1Chitus
@1Chitus Жыл бұрын
I love how Karl not only investigates cheating, but also spends time in the communities to get a better understanding of how the players are. True professional.
@rd101
@rd101 7 ай бұрын
That’s exactly why I love Karl’s videos. You can tell he does his research on the subjects he talks about.
@Yesnomaybeso1001
@Yesnomaybeso1001 7 ай бұрын
I love how you copy pasted someone's comment :)
@Theunicorn2012
@Theunicorn2012 7 ай бұрын
I love how Karl not only investigates cheating, but also spends time in the communities to get a better understanding of how the players are. True professional.
@aTalkingPizza
@aTalkingPizza 4 ай бұрын
​@@Theunicorn2012you have a really weird hobby
@lucask4377
@lucask4377 10 күн бұрын
I love how Karl not only investigates cheating, but also spends time in the communities to get a better understanding of how the players are. True professional
@NYTROUS
@NYTROUS Жыл бұрын
The editing and explanations in this video were perfect, happy to help!
@cepollard86
@cepollard86 Жыл бұрын
Good work fellas!
@KiyaWarrior
@KiyaWarrior Жыл бұрын
I’m confused how this is considered cheating. Theres no opponents or competition, he’s just trying to make some cool clips. Its your own fault for being deceived if anything.
@JimmyHey
@JimmyHey Жыл бұрын
@@KiyaWarrior He literally altered the code of the game to make something that isn't humanly possible, possible. How is it not cheating?
@lorehammer40k4
@lorehammer40k4 Жыл бұрын
Oh hey, you're that guy from the thing, huh? Cool.
@Y2Jeremiah
@Y2Jeremiah Жыл бұрын
@@KiyaWarrior you must be the only one online that's confused. He literally got his spot on a freestyle team from these faked clips, per the explanation in the video. It is the very definition of cheating. And they might have been initially deceived, but they figured out that it wasn't legit and exposed it. So I don't see how trying to make them the villains instead of the fraud does anything.
@stanz47
@stanz47 Жыл бұрын
There was also one other thing he hacked you didn’t mention: the camera. In his replays he would modify the camera, so he’d hit a normal freestyle and then in replay turn on the reverse camera to create an insane shot.
@TheSpacePlaceYT
@TheSpacePlaceYT Жыл бұрын
Wow. That makes them MUCH less impressive.
@eggs8021
@eggs8021 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if I'm reading it weird or if its written weird, but this comment makes no sense to me
@TheWizardMus
@TheWizardMus Жыл бұрын
@@eggs8021 effectively he played with the normal camera, then when he was editing the replay, he would make the camera be the reverse cam to create the more impressive looking reverse shot
@eggs8021
@eggs8021 Жыл бұрын
@@TheWizardMus oh I get it that's hilarious
@l1bric
@l1bric Жыл бұрын
@@eggs8021 I was wrong everyone, he didn’t use jumpinreplay my apologies
@JamaicanCoconutRL
@JamaicanCoconutRL Жыл бұрын
Thankfully the rocket league competitive and professional scene has not seen any cheating yet. There are simply no cheats or AI smart enough that would help in a competitive environment. It's one of the reasons why I've had so much fun with it, compared to games like CS:GO where once you get high enough, you are bound to run into cheaters.
@Ultra289
@Ultra289 Жыл бұрын
Havent found a cheater in years in high ranks
@swagmanjay.
@swagmanjay. Жыл бұрын
I swear a few days ago on twitter multiple pros have seen this guy playing almost to perfection with dribbles like a bot would?
@qQ-lh8cf
@qQ-lh8cf Жыл бұрын
I wish that were true 😂 there are cheaters EVERYWHERE in rocket league. The game simply doesn’t allow you to do some of the things I’ve seen and what we’ve tested. Infinite boost is a thing, extra base speed is a thing, choosing your power up’s in rumble and skipping the timer is a thing, these are the most common we’ve run into. There is simple no other explanation unless the ping and packetloss warnings mean nothing because they don’t reflect bad connection with players that exhibit those behaviors.
@jaspuhh.
@jaspuhh. Жыл бұрын
This aged like rotten cheese, JamaicanCoconut LMAO 1 day later and cheaters are being found in ranked. That's funny
@nomore6167
@nomore6167 Жыл бұрын
"Thankfully the rocket league competitive and professional scene has not seen any cheating yet" - With all due respect, it is impossible for you (or anyone) to definitively say that you haven't seen any cheating yet. The best you can say is that you have not discovered any cheating yet.
@barackobama5152
@barackobama5152 Жыл бұрын
ive been playing rocket league for years and im very impressed at the research you did. You got all the terminology correct and clearly went through a lot of effort to make sure you did it right
@nickaww
@nickaww Жыл бұрын
2 months after sunless kahn xd
@HoutarouOrekiOsu
@HoutarouOrekiOsu Жыл бұрын
thanks Obama
@gunkanjima3408
@gunkanjima3408 Жыл бұрын
Terminology like “ball” and “speed” and “goal”. Very impressive
@HoutarouOrekiOsu
@HoutarouOrekiOsu Жыл бұрын
@@gunkanjima3408 flip reset
@86niisan8686
@86niisan8686 Жыл бұрын
you mean.... ive been playing rocket league for years and you have just proven to know more about it in 1 short video XD jk
@JoshJoshua64
@JoshJoshua64 Жыл бұрын
Man that's crazy. Lots of work put into that cheating which is almost impressive in itself lmao
@KaseyC.
@KaseyC. Жыл бұрын
Like Karl said, if he put just a little more work into it, it would've likely gone unnoticed
@JoshJoshua64
@JoshJoshua64 Жыл бұрын
@@KaseyC. True! That's why it's ALMOST impressive lmao. Just a little bit more would've made it much better
@LineOfThy
@LineOfThy Жыл бұрын
you can't succeed if you don't put in the work, no matter how good the idea is.
@SinfulEuphxria
@SinfulEuphxria Жыл бұрын
The crazy thing is, the time it would take to actually hit those clips (compared to his already shown skill level) would have been significantly less than the time he took to fake them most of the time
@ThePapaja1996
@ThePapaja1996 Жыл бұрын
a pro cheater
@Uniqueusername2
@Uniqueusername2 Жыл бұрын
I remember casually playing this right when it came out. Took a break for a year or two and when I came back, the average skill level of the competition was so freaking impressive I couldn’t keep up lol.
@JackTheripper911
@JackTheripper911 Жыл бұрын
Imagine how my friends and I felt when we switched from "Super Sonic Acrobatic rocket powered battle cars" (RL 1) to Rocket League years later 😂 was like going from the stone age to the 40th century
@Drayiss
@Drayiss Жыл бұрын
You know, if it weren’t for the fact that he was trying to pass the videos off as real, I wouldn’t mind them. Modifying a game and producing visually crazy videos just for the heck of it can be super fun! It’s a shame that it was an attempt to fool the community who puts in the commitment to achieve their own great plays
@RSTaku
@RSTaku Жыл бұрын
yep
@richardhunter132
@richardhunter132 7 ай бұрын
he was benefiting materially from it, so it's fraud
@myrup1887
@myrup1887 7 ай бұрын
@@richardhunter132looks sick asf tho no?
@mistywww3199
@mistywww3199 7 ай бұрын
Is that not just TAS at that point.
@brennanator
@brennanator Жыл бұрын
I play RL a lot and I would just like to point out the amount of depth and research that he puts into games he covers so he isn’t disrespectful and understands the topic completely. Incredible job.
@Zoabdy
@Zoabdy Жыл бұрын
Legit. I've been playing for 2 years and never noticed that the BOOST letters flash at 100%. I thought they flashed as soon as you hit 99% because I don't look at the boost meter if I know I'm full
@kingofgrim4761
@kingofgrim4761 Жыл бұрын
@@Zoabdy me who never notices it flashes despite playing for years (I also am not good)
@Theunicorn2012
@Theunicorn2012 Жыл бұрын
I play RL a lot and I would just like to point out the amount of depth and research that he puts into games he covers so he isn't disrespectful and understands the topic completely. Incredible job.
@Brainsore.
@Brainsore. Жыл бұрын
Chill
@centrald.
@centrald. Жыл бұрын
Been playing for four years and this is very tru I'm a c1 btw
@demeterruinedmylife3199
@demeterruinedmylife3199 Жыл бұрын
When I watched the video, I thought "well that's quite obvious, how did he cover that up for almost a year?" Then I realise it's just Karl doing a superb job in explaining things clearly.
@hariman7727
@hariman7727 Жыл бұрын
The 14 reset one looked wrong due to the pace of the bounces to me, but I might not have seen that if it weren't in a video about cheating at freestyling.
@clearspira
@clearspira Жыл бұрын
But like Karl says, KZbin comments and speculation isn't proof. Many legit speedruns look cheated to me, but that's because I do not have the skill to play a game to that level. Hindsight is a beautiful thing.
@unwono
@unwono Жыл бұрын
@@hariman7727 There are actual players who look just as good
@TheSpacePlaceYT
@TheSpacePlaceYT Жыл бұрын
@@clearspira You are the first person I've seen to actually admit that while some runs ook cheated you might not know everything about the game they're playing. As a result you don't hate in their comments section like the other hundreds of thousands.
@Dragonatrix
@Dragonatrix Жыл бұрын
Don't even need that to question it in this case, though? A guy going from very good but mid as far as competitive stuff cares to hanging with the best of the best literally overnight is so blatant that if that flag was any redder it would have a hammer and sickle on it.
@Ben-kz2km
@Ben-kz2km Жыл бұрын
As someone who played only a few hours of Rocket League, I've always wondered what high level game play and ball control would look like. It's cool to see this level of proficiency. The whole freestyle scene is amazing, there's really no need to cheat.
@Ashtarte3D
@Ashtarte3D Жыл бұрын
I love that subtle jab at Billy Mitchell where you don't even have to name him and we all know what you're talking about.
@rstewa35
@rstewa35 Жыл бұрын
I’m not condoning his actions obviously but it’s impressive as hell how well he was able to modify those replay files. I would have never noticed.
@John-nw9jc
@John-nw9jc Жыл бұрын
Yeah my thoughts exactly. Def not a lazy cheater lol
@agrillhasnoname
@agrillhasnoname Жыл бұрын
You admire a cheater lol what is wrong with you? Cheater too? It's not impressive, it's shitty.
@xxL3GNDSBESTxx
@xxL3GNDSBESTxx Жыл бұрын
This is what scares me the most about cheating. Technology has been around long enough, people have to be really good at cheating. For every cheater caught, how many are there doing it diligently and not getting caught?
@mattparnall4148
@mattparnall4148 Жыл бұрын
at this point the cheating is sort of an art form of itself
@robinmattheussen2395
@robinmattheussen2395 Жыл бұрын
I'm assuming he built some tools in order to facility all this. There's quite few tools out there that use the RL replay format, so there's a lot of information you can use to build your own stuff. Still, I agree, some of these seem quite well made.
@Jammerocker
@Jammerocker Жыл бұрын
There is NO WAY you just dropped a Rocket League video. Holy shit what a start to the new year!
@twe8k
@twe8k Жыл бұрын
Yeehaww
@shinpaws1014
@shinpaws1014 Жыл бұрын
Nice one!
@amp4105
@amp4105 Жыл бұрын
*SOYJAK* NO WAY!!!!
@AwesomeDude799
@AwesomeDude799 Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah. Happy New Year.
@user-rs2zg8cq4g
@user-rs2zg8cq4g Жыл бұрын
Awesome to see videos on games not typically covered here. Keep branching out man, love the content!
@WolfXGamerful
@WolfXGamerful Жыл бұрын
Taku and NYTROUS really pullin out the galaxy brain with the way they got undeniable proof on him. Good stuff.
@CaptainCurtle
@CaptainCurtle Жыл бұрын
Just a note about the "real-time" cheating. There's been some recent video evidence of players toggling a bot to auto-hunt demos with inhuman precision. So there's baby steps happening in competitive cheating
@smellyghost
@smellyghost Жыл бұрын
Yeah came here to mention this. But it’s not just TAS for demos there’s evidence of being able to do TAS aerials and other mechanics as well. It’s all coming out more and more though so no idea what the extent of it is but I’ve seen the clips of it. Also funny to see this after seeing SunlessKhan’s video on the subject.
@Swaeshy
@Swaeshy Жыл бұрын
@@smellyghost completely different things, the demo bot is just a bot that locks onto an enemy on your screen and perfectly chases them with robotic reactions to their dodging attempts, the aerial tas stuff is still completely impossible in live multiplayer games, only possible in singleplayer gameplay.
@smellyghost
@smellyghost Жыл бұрын
@@Swaeshy not that I’ve seen. You’re right that it’s different than the demo bot that locks onto the player to demo that Johnnyboi showed off. But the clips I’ve seen of the TAS aerials are in live multiplayer but they’re more like hit a button to do mechanics afaik. But there’s also way more than that anyways. Things like showing hitboxes and ball trajectory in live matches is also possible (as well as faking items and everyone in the lobby being able to see them). I know one console is called voltage and there’s another that someone linked in the comments of johnnyboi’s video that had the TAS aerial stuff but I’d have to dig that back up. But the forums had discussions about it and how to use it in matches to look natural along with privated KZbin clips showing it off.
@sdsdfdu4437
@sdsdfdu4437 Жыл бұрын
There's also the CSGO coach fiasco
@Peksisarvinen
@Peksisarvinen Жыл бұрын
​@@smellyghost It is literally impossible to cheat out mechanics in Rocket League in online matches, simply due to the fact that every mechanic needs to be set up before you can go for it, and you bots do not have the ability to micro manage ball control to get the setup right for the macroing to work, and humans do not have the precision, or the opportunities for that matter, to set the bot up in a way that would put it in a position to succeed. As for seeing hitboxes and ball trajectory, both of those things are completely useless. Good players already know where the hitboxes are and where the ball is going, and bad players cannot utilize the extra information for anything. The best you can do with it is practice, but in live gameplay, useless extra garbage on the screen is just a distraction. It is literally impossible to gain a competitive advantage from bots or cheats in online Rocket League. Doesn't matter what theorycrafters think.
@PicturedMind
@PicturedMind Жыл бұрын
What's upsetting about this situation is he actually had something good going for himself and the community. I think if he put out these montages and made it known he had altered the code to produce some cool clips people would've loved to see it.
@tylerb6981
@tylerb6981 Жыл бұрын
I had the same exact thought while watching this. I was like "Since it is so easy to alter those replays and whatnot, you could have a whole YT channel just dedicated to manufacturing hello cool matches and montages."
@brunoslybruno
@brunoslybruno Жыл бұрын
@@tylerb6981 yep, it'd be like tool assisted speedruns / tas, it'd let peopl see the theoretical maximum and amazingness of what can be done - plus, if he *admited* right away that he was doing so instead of faking it, we could see much more harder to execute clips, instead of trying to keep it a human level, it could go ham and make it even more entertaining its a shame the guy didnt go for that, that'd be cool
@QuantumConundrum
@QuantumConundrum Жыл бұрын
Since this overwrites/ignores a lot of the physics constraints I don't think it would be that interesting... but there are ways to be creative, it's just not obvious to me.
@landru27
@landru27 Жыл бұрын
Even better, if he'd shared what he learned in the process and his *technique*, people would have built upon it, going in who-knows-what directions, and others would build upon that work, so on and so forth. Someone would make really funny Rocket League matches. Someone would recreate real World Cup matches in Rocket League. Someone would create artistically choreographed matches. Someone would write software to make it easier to create these specially crafted matches. We'd have Rocket League machinema. And eventually, of course, someone would recreate Minecraft in Rocket League.
@NielsMulvad
@NielsMulvad Жыл бұрын
@@QuantumConundrum I would disagree, I think it would have the potential to be an amazing channel and further down the line a tool for people that wants to theory craft and practice. Sure some people would scuff at it, but he had been honest about what videos was "tool assisted" then I think people who would want to get sweaty, would have flocked to him.
@nicamam1
@nicamam1 Жыл бұрын
Hey man! Been watching random videos from you, and I love the detail and research that goes in behind your videos. Thank you for your great work!!
@matt.2708
@matt.2708 7 ай бұрын
The thing with Shimmy is lots of people could easily tell his freestyles were fake, especially him finding random power from weak shots
@SirPembertonS.Crevalius
@SirPembertonS.Crevalius Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how well Karl keeps tabs on every speedrunning or challenge community and relays the information in such a compact and easy to understand way. Happy New Year Karl!
@Wallyworld30
@Wallyworld30 Жыл бұрын
Karl is the Walter Cronkite of Speedrunning. If something interesting happens in the world of Speedrunning they will tell everything about it to Karl. I'm not trying to downplay Karl's work I'm on pointing out he'll get scoop before other channels because they find Karl instead of Karl trying to find them.
@draugnaustaunikunhymnphoo6978
@draugnaustaunikunhymnphoo6978 Жыл бұрын
@@Wallyworld30 That's just how things work. Ain't nothing wrong about it either.
@grayaj23
@grayaj23 Жыл бұрын
I'm not even into speedrunning, but I enjoy Karl's videos because his presentation style and thoroughness are worth watching.
@queefqueefington
@queefqueefington Жыл бұрын
I've never speedrun anything and dont really even play videogames but still always these videos Karl makes. Always top notch quality and explanations so a non gaming dummy like me understands whats going on
@krusher181
@krusher181 Жыл бұрын
This isn’t even a speedrunning or challenge community tbh, so it’s even weirder and more impressive. Freestyling in rocket league is straight up about pushing the envelope while being stylish as fuck. It’s such a cool microcosm of the game. Cheating is obviously sooooo against the spirit of freestyling, even though it’s not an inherently competitive way of playing. It’s about being sick and doing sick shit, with real skill.
@bluetrip_
@bluetrip_ Жыл бұрын
Rocket Sledge is such an underrated creator. Really happy you shouted him out :)
@Rocket_Sledge
@Rocket_Sledge Жыл бұрын
@spencerr5254
@spencerr5254 Жыл бұрын
eh he is an ok creator
@hearthergd7462
@hearthergd7462 Жыл бұрын
@@Rocket_Sledge real.
@LuizDahoraavida
@LuizDahoraavida Жыл бұрын
I'm not in the speedrunning community but I enjoy watching your content, your versatility for dealing with so many different games and communities is really impressive!
@jrearman
@jrearman Жыл бұрын
Karl doing a Rocket League video, now I can die happy. Fantastic video, amazing descriptions, and you can tell research was done about the community. Well done Karl!
@Transgenic86
@Transgenic86 Жыл бұрын
This same situation happened in Half-Life 2 Done Quick. There was an individual contributor that had some cheated segments in the speedrun. But it took something like a decade until people realized the segments were cheated by using host_timescale to do the segments at a slower speed. When you play the replay (demo file), they don't contain the host_timescale command in the replay, so they play at normal speed.
@aarontooth
@aarontooth 9 ай бұрын
Oh man that makes me so sad. HL2DQ is what you me interested in watching speed running. Now it's tarnished for a second reason. (The first is the segment where they sexually assault Alex Vance. I mean, God damn guys. Me too or something.)
@jasonxhx7854
@jasonxhx7854 Жыл бұрын
NGL I thought Karl might have been late covering this story. Instead, he produces an absolutely insane detective story detailing all the actual events of the story. Well done Dr. Jobst.
@ccvjd3909
@ccvjd3909 Жыл бұрын
Anyone above diamond is a cheater. The rank system Is just cheat protection. It's obvious to spot a cheater in rocket league. The cheat "bakkes mod" boosts the car at the ball and aims the front of the car at the ball automatically. Mosf of the clips featured at the start of this video are cheaters.
@TheLastSane1
@TheLastSane1 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, like with any journalism you have you weight being the "First" to break a story or cover one. And taking the time to gather all the info. So it might have been a little behind the trend but that also means he would have time to gather info that was discovered after the other people who talked about it. I rather like that like.
@Kamirasu
@Kamirasu Жыл бұрын
@Don't Read Profile Photo who are you?
@TheSpacePlaceYT
@TheSpacePlaceYT Жыл бұрын
@@TheLastSane1 Exactly. He was the ONLY person to cover te Dream incident with full coverage and actually not jump on one wagon or the other. It's really sad how people do 30 minutes of research and put out a response video as if they even know what they're talking about xD
@romaining-gala
@romaining-gala Жыл бұрын
@@TheLastSane1 at least the story was covered to another community, most of the rocket league community already know about the story because of sunlesskhan’s video (he’s a rocket league youtuber) so it’s a good thing the speedrun community know about another bad actor
@brianlaferriere6326
@brianlaferriere6326 2 ай бұрын
Its truly impressive when you can clearly see the love,and thoroughness put into these videos! Its so well done, it will capture an audience that doesn't even know anything about the game initially, and conclude with a solid understanding of the topic. Very well done!!! I look forward to your continued success!
@chops3905
@chops3905 Ай бұрын
Love watching your videos and somehow missed the one you did on my favorite game. I remember all of this happening a year and a half ago now but never saw your video on it. Thank you for doing extensive research on the game I love (that’s slowly dying ): )
@shammaboy
@shammaboy Жыл бұрын
You gotta hand it to some of these cheaters. It’s impressive to figure out how to be deceitful on that level
@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368
@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 Жыл бұрын
You have to wonder how sad their lives must be to invest so much time in deceit just to be thought highly of in a very, very niche community.
@luipaardprint
@luipaardprint Жыл бұрын
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 I think it works a little bit different tbh, he was already decent in the community, just never the best, and he wanted a shortcut to being part of the elite. Its the same emotion pay to win games predicate their business model on.
@Speeeedy
@Speeeedy Жыл бұрын
@@luipaardprint I agree to some extent but the fact that he couldn't just practise more or work harder to sharpen his skills is just kinda sad. He spent time and effort into editing his clips instead. I feel like it's a very poor way to go about things when he could've just worked for it instead.
@dragoneye6229
@dragoneye6229 Жыл бұрын
What impresses me is that he didn't even play the game. Or rather he did but when he was making these clips he wasn't playing he just made them via coding basically. That's insane.
@David-ud9ju
@David-ud9ju Жыл бұрын
@@Speeeedy Isn't anyone putting thousands of hours into a video game just sad though? I always wonder what these speed runners could have achieved if they had put that time and effort into something productive in the real world.
@WhoamI-rl8ep
@WhoamI-rl8ep Жыл бұрын
I never did a speedrun, im not part of the community and only watched a couple of speedruns over the years, but your videos are so well written, narrated and edited that i can't help watching every single one of them
@heydannypark
@heydannypark Жыл бұрын
I've also never once attempted a speed run, or even watched an attempt by someone else. I found out about this community through the movie "King of Kong" with that awful ding-a-ling Milly Bitchell. After seeing the movie, I'm sure I would have rarely - if ever - pursued any more content regarding the genre, but for a video that came out in my recommendations by some dude named Karl Jobst. I still don't watch any speed running stuff, but a good story is a good story, and Karl does it right. Lots of research, totally fair, and as honest as the day is long. Kudos, sir.
@TheRealCake
@TheRealCake 11 ай бұрын
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@EmilicoYamigos
@EmilicoYamigos Жыл бұрын
Karl you never stop surprising us with your critic content of the same topic but with broad and big variety of game genres, props for your investigations, best of lucks.
@Night_Hawk_475
@Night_Hawk_475 Жыл бұрын
Really well researched from the community, thank you for putting this presentation together. The thing that's always neat (and you did point this out too already) - is how these more creative and successful cheaters always end up improving the cheat detection that the community uses in the future. Some day it would be neat to get a tool that could automatically analyze a replay to verify that all the physics line up with what is mathematically possible for the normal game engine to produce.
@gairisiuil
@gairisiuil 7 ай бұрын
cheaters would immediately use that to make their replays undetectable
@Rabbit-the-One
@Rabbit-the-One Жыл бұрын
Inhumane freestyle skills? Not inhuman? Is he a war criminal or something? Should we tell the neighborhood watch?
@Rabbit-the-One
@Rabbit-the-One Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the like Karl.
@Lightna
@Lightna Жыл бұрын
Dang, 2023 isn't even an hour old and we already have a cheating scandal vid from the absolute legend Karl Jobst
@KirinRG
@KirinRG 6 ай бұрын
i remember seeing this unfold on twitter and it was really hard to follow, however you kept all the points clear and easy to follow, love your interpretation
@gaulderin
@gaulderin Жыл бұрын
Great video! Love how you explained certain mechanics as well!❤
@christophersmith4850
@christophersmith4850 Жыл бұрын
U fookin legend
@yummyboy3536
@yummyboy3536 Жыл бұрын
fook yea!!!
@ararepotato1420
@ararepotato1420 Жыл бұрын
No U!
@lifemiller6276
@lifemiller6276 Жыл бұрын
Fook!!!
@MP-oh9lt
@MP-oh9lt Жыл бұрын
Absolute Fuggin Leaugendee!
@UNO279
@UNO279 Жыл бұрын
@@ararepotato1420yes
@Pyroniusburn
@Pyroniusburn Жыл бұрын
I love when people come up with definitive methods of testing for cheating that have very little to do with the game Like already having a replay and then asking for it again later when the person is under scrutiny and would be likely to alter it, clever.
@jared675
@jared675 Жыл бұрын
great video. I hadn't heard of this guy but honestly watching these clips it's amazing to me that no one was initially suspicious before he joined a team. I mean he barely touches the ball and gets max speed, or the ball lags and looks broken in half his clips. still a really interesting story
@spykewyn8395
@spykewyn8395 Жыл бұрын
5:35 "But then, in December of 2021, Shimmy became possessed." By the ghost of Todd Rogers, apparently!
@slojder125
@slojder125 Жыл бұрын
So cool to see you cover this rocket league incident and im really impressed that you actually took the time to learn all the rocket league terms correctly. Even pro players constantly get terms wrong when it comes to freestyling and they dont really care to learn. But you really did it well!
@loricbrandt
@loricbrandt Жыл бұрын
I appreciate all of the work you put into the presentation of these videos. I've never played, or have little experience with some of the games you cover, but I can still follow along perfectly well because of the way you present and explain the information. It's both informative and entertaining, and I appreciate it very much.
@Imaproshaman7
@Imaproshaman7 Жыл бұрын
It's always crazy how much effort people can put into cheating. This was explained really well too, especially since I don't even know that much about the game. The editing is great. I always appreciate when the people are able to get involved in the making of the videos too. Nice.
@MrLeeStories
@MrLeeStories Жыл бұрын
Karl, I’ve seen a lot of channels like yours, but you are by far the highest quality of effort. Love your channel dude!
@legatomodi3522
@legatomodi3522 Жыл бұрын
I imagine it's an intense point of stress to go so long being so close to getting caught. Knowing that people are suspicious and asking questions and you know that they know that you know you're cheating and everyones testing you to slip. You achieved nothing but now you gotta work that much harder trying to pretend you did. What a terrible scene.
@AcIdBARRY
@AcIdBARRY Жыл бұрын
thats what lies cause, and also why you shouldnt do it. i hope he learned his lesson.
@randomess61
@randomess61 Жыл бұрын
It's kind of funny to think about though. Can you imagine, the dude just going on about with his day when someone suddenly asks him for a replay file and now he has to drop everything he is doing to spend a hour or so trying to make the replay look smoother lmao
@IceBlueLugia
@IceBlueLugia Жыл бұрын
@@randomess61 That’s the exact thing I was thinking during that part of the video lmfao
@Defkin
@Defkin Жыл бұрын
Amazing production and narration as always! The opening description about Rocket League and its mechanics is the best explanation I've ever seen. Happy New Year!
@klashnacovak47
@klashnacovak47 Жыл бұрын
Well done to all those who called him out and those who not just called him out but actually put a report together and showed their evidence. Need a lot more people like this in games and putting the cheaters to rights.
@TypausZuendorf
@TypausZuendorf Жыл бұрын
Okay the guy is a cheater but on 7:37 the amount of time for making food... Mate when I tell you I make myself some food lets say, roasted potatoes plus some prepared meatballs from the supermarket. That is gonna take around an hour of relaxed cooking plus 30-45 min at least to eat and then another 15-30 min me just relaxing after the food. And that is a very straight forward easy to make meal. If then somebody asked for some replay from me that is not gonna be on my "important" list and I might not even get on that, that day. Just as a general rule never overread such things.
@reidmodena-kurpinsky4313
@reidmodena-kurpinsky4313 Жыл бұрын
I cant think of a better way to bring in the new year than a drink in hand, and watching Karl Jobst. I hope you have a great new year Karl, and can't wait to see the content you make in 2023.
@tylerlegend7205
@tylerlegend7205 Жыл бұрын
Happy new years, always great to see a video from a creator you love on a game you love
@MurkinYuh
@MurkinYuh Жыл бұрын
love the videos Karl! keep them coming!
@papawshane
@papawshane Жыл бұрын
I have been watching your videos for a long time. Always love them and love the depths of your explanations. But as I was watching this video I realized something.... I had never subscribed hahaha! So even though I am a long time fan, as of today, I will finally be a subscriber! Keep it!
@Zeddwolff
@Zeddwolff Жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd see my favorite game on this channel. Thanks so much for covering this.
@ashtonjack
@ashtonjack Жыл бұрын
I just Commented this lol
@ashtonjack
@ashtonjack Жыл бұрын
im actually so happy
@lastdimensions638
@lastdimensions638 Жыл бұрын
Hey I know you lol
@suds6424
@suds6424 Жыл бұрын
literally did a triple take when i seen biggest cheater in rocket league history and then karl jobst name under it. i was like no way he made a video on "jimmy" as sunlesskahn called him haha idk how much karl knows about RL but this video was amazingly done with all the explanations and coverage of the events. well done mr Jobst ❤
@Zeddwolff
@Zeddwolff Жыл бұрын
@@lastdimensions638 How do you know me?
@erikaisadiah
@erikaisadiah Жыл бұрын
I'm always amazed at how invested these videos make me in games I've never played. Looking forward to watching you contine to be a legend in 2023, Karl!
@phemeloseotlolla
@phemeloseotlolla 7 ай бұрын
This is a case of someone cheating in a sprint and we find out they grew an extra leg to win. Changing the game code to cheat is nutty.
@shinobiqueenv6583
@shinobiqueenv6583 Жыл бұрын
Im shocked by this. I've played this game for years, and I understand TAS exists, but as a console player I could never fathom how someone would cheat in Rocket League of all games. Love your content, and this is exactly why!
@ryanhodin5014
@ryanhodin5014 Жыл бұрын
It's always great to have such a well-explained video that makes someone who doesn't know the game at a technical level understand the cheating at that level... All with some nice Mantis theme in the background.
@RickOConnell327
@RickOConnell327 Жыл бұрын
Happy new year Karl, I've always loved your content and hope to see more of it in the new year :D
@mattkowalski6740
@mattkowalski6740 Жыл бұрын
I never thought I'd see the day when Karl Jobst would do a video on rocket league due to the near impossibility to cheat or speed run anything in particular, and yet here we are. Love the content as always. Huge fan, and now you got a video on my favorite game
@delianchakalski9459
@delianchakalski9459 Жыл бұрын
Hello Karl. Wish a happy and successful 2023. Been watching your videos from quite some time, i'm from Bulgaria. I will be happy if you make a WR history review of Star Wars Jedi Academy (Or Jedi Knight II). Those games have CRAZY MECHANICS and hard execution AND it's Star Wars we are talking about ; )
@Sagittarial-A-
@Sagittarial-A- Жыл бұрын
This is right before 2023 for me, thanks for another great video to end off the year on my end, and a wonderful way to start the year for others. Hope you're doing wonderfully, Karl.
@Bearorgan
@Bearorgan Жыл бұрын
7:30 an hour and a half is a pretty average cook time. especially if he's cooking and eating it right away.
@Sem5626
@Sem5626 Жыл бұрын
i love how the "most replayed" bit of most youtube videos is the end of the in built ad... people should probably be taking note of that
@princessoscar3089
@princessoscar3089 Жыл бұрын
LOL I love your narration for how hilarious you can make this stuff sound. "SHIMMY...had become a GOD." xDDD
@Mr.Boyo13
@Mr.Boyo13 Жыл бұрын
Nothing like starting the new year off with a Karl Jobst video. This is truly epic and you, are an absolute Legend Karl Jobst
@massimorosner3496
@massimorosner3496 Жыл бұрын
Happy new year, Karl! Thank you for your amazing content, as always!
@PhoxjawVA
@PhoxjawVA Жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd see my mainstay covered by you. Awesome video, man!
@NotSoBrown
@NotSoBrown Жыл бұрын
Really good and unique editing to make it look the way he did wow
@shayes.x
@shayes.x Жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this, and to those who helped with the video! Being part of the RL community, it's exciting to see our community in the spotlight!
@calvinguernsey8940
@calvinguernsey8940 Жыл бұрын
What a great way to explain rocket leagues mechanics and high end gameplay so simply. Looking forward to the Karl jobst freestyle montage. 👍
@colbynicholson9804
@colbynicholson9804 Жыл бұрын
I was ab to say this vid wouldn’t be complete without a mesko triple musty clip lmfao good shit Karl
@AutumnPulse
@AutumnPulse Жыл бұрын
This is why I love that there are people in every genre that are know a lot about specific games. I wouldn't have caught anything that was brought up because I know nothing about rocketleague.
@nickpini7998
@nickpini7998 Жыл бұрын
Love the content Karl! Keep up the good work and happy new year!
@El-Mikey
@El-Mikey Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the amazing content, happy new year to you karl and also to everyone you love And to all the absolute legends reading this!
@Savoryy
@Savoryy Жыл бұрын
W Donation
@NationDixon
@NationDixon Жыл бұрын
@tomh6010
@tomh6010 Жыл бұрын
This reminds me a lot of the time Trackmania players found dozens of high-level players were cheating and created their own 'Competitive Patch' to verify replays. Gotta' love the dedication of gamers.
@Talliebird
@Talliebird Жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd see you cover RL. I've been playing since it came out, friends with many in the scene and never in my life thought about if people were faking things.
@benjaminjankowski4488
@benjaminjankowski4488 Жыл бұрын
Im really surprised and happy you covered this rl drama as i never thought it would catch major attention
@Elenrai
@Elenrai Жыл бұрын
In that case have a little bonus slice; in CS GO there was a coach that got "caught" using an exploit to ghost, after valve refused to fix the exploit, the coach instructed his team to use it, they all lie and pleaded ignorance and what is worse is that loads of pro teams actively cheat using the ghost exploit, i would cry but am laughing too hard
@theghostcreator776
@theghostcreator776 Жыл бұрын
6:53 when you pin people calling you out on your BS 💀
@Not_funnyTv
@Not_funnyTv 9 ай бұрын
“Cunning and creative in his deception” 😂… dude all that was sketchy from the beginning
@ethansample8512
@ethansample8512 5 ай бұрын
I have 2 things to say about this. 1, being a part of the Rocket League community for so long, it's really heartwarming to see someone who isn't actively a part of the community do so much to be accurate and informed when making a video like this, so extremely well done to Karl. 2, I think the one thing that throws me off about the video is the description of Shimmy's gameplay before he started cheating. Freestyling at even a "medium" level would still put you leagues ahead of the average player. It's not something that you can gradually get better at at the same time you get better at the game. You already have to be one of the best in the game to even have a chance at making good freestyle content.
@twahly8170
@twahly8170 Жыл бұрын
Extremely impressed with your research and how you gain all knowledge of the game before making a video. I am an extreme RL player and you got every fact of the game spot on. Thanks!
@jij8504
@jij8504 Жыл бұрын
really cool to see someone outside the rl community covering things like this, great work
@stayfaded69
@stayfaded69 Жыл бұрын
We ain't legends. U r a fooking bang on legend. Keep up the good work
@bbdi548
@bbdi548 Жыл бұрын
5:00 theres actually a graphics bug that speeds up visual animations if you turn a console on without previously closing the game. Unless this was a pc player, it could easily be the explanation for the fast flashing boost
@GreybeardGG
@GreybeardGG Жыл бұрын
I became a gamer rather later in life and the game which got me there is Rocket League. It's the only game I play. With that context, I've been watching your channel for two years and love the content even though I've never seen, let alone played, the genres you cover. Seeing you cover the game I love was a joy. Great work.
@maximmk6446
@maximmk6446 Жыл бұрын
Hope you are doing great Karl, Happy New Year ✨
@caxacar8901
@caxacar8901 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Karl Jobst for keeping me updated with recent cheaters in video games
@user-qk3sz5ni1d
@user-qk3sz5ni1d Жыл бұрын
I beleive that the reason that rocket leauge is popular is the same as fotboll(soccer). A simple game with alot of depth in which you have teams competing with each other were you can root for teams and individuals.
@GodlyKJ
@GodlyKJ Жыл бұрын
Mods: there’s hundreds of clips with a 99.9% chance you’re cheating Shimmy: I’ve never cheated in my life. Mods: there’s 1 clip with a 100% chance you’re cheating Shimmy: Aww ya got me D:
@Adrobiel
@Adrobiel Жыл бұрын
The thing I always found funny about stuff like this is if the creator was upfront about stuff when they posted most people would have a good laugh and be like "Wow that's impossible but looks cool, kudos" but they insist on faking it as if it was real despite their real skill in the game. It's the same with a lot of the cheaters you have exposed tbh.
@katgut
@katgut Жыл бұрын
There should be a category in every community that goes on for a random month each year, that challenges the best of each community to make their best cheated runs and submit them undercover to test and strengthen the community's eyes for cheaters, some of the mods will be in on it and at the end of the month all the cheated runs unnoticed will be revealed and given a small summary of what the runner did to do it The mods that spot the fakes, the community members that spot the fakes, and the runners that successfully fool the community or discover a new cheat method before its use could even win some money
@Yoshi92
@Yoshi92 7 ай бұрын
Why I play RL basically daily for more than 6 years now: *Untouchable skill ceiling & no cheaters at all.* The only competitive 3D online game I know that has both. What a time to be alive. Amazing video Karl! 🏆💯
@Jokervision744
@Jokervision744 Жыл бұрын
I just applaud people for all the passion being able to play even through videos where the idea is to catch a cheater.
@TorvicIsSanta
@TorvicIsSanta Жыл бұрын
Part of this that really sucks is that what shimmy did could have actually been really cool. Manually controlling the game, according to your explanation you said frame by frame at least in part, can't be that easy. Still requires a level of expertise many of us could only dream of, both in the game and in understanding 3rd party tools to manipulate it. If shimmy had been upfront about these actions, it would be pretty rad. Not very different from TAS speedruns.
@Snrasha
@Snrasha Жыл бұрын
Very different of TAS Speedrun, a TAS is just a series of input each frame than a human cannot do, which will break the game, the game is unchanged and technically not cheated. This guy has modified the game and cheated.
@TorvicIsSanta
@TorvicIsSanta Жыл бұрын
@@Snrasha I was referring more to the skill and accomplishment of it, not details of either
@MrrPinnyD
@MrrPinnyD Жыл бұрын
Karl, take a look at the osrs max speedrun rivalry between JCW and he box jonge, definitely worth a look and possibly a video
@babobereta
@babobereta Жыл бұрын
great choice of background music, love FTL
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