The Cheating Situation In Rocket League

[@rubendraai758]

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[@dylaneditz_123]

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[@sadiakhan4701]

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[@80.EnzoMoto]

Waylon really hearted this and pinned it😂😂

[@DYNAMiXRap]

At this point, its time as epicgames to take the rest of psyonix devs every paycheck! And epic games should let fall this game to its ground 0! idgaf what u thinkin! They never were so far away of listening to community as of todays age! only shitty skins, more skins, look new car, more trash skins, skins, skins, another trashcar with the same bs hitbox, skins skins....

[@steadyclouds4614]

@@DYNAMiXRap you good bro? You can delete it but that doesn't mean everyone else is going to bc you're upset with the game. We are too, we hear ya.

[@king_seeser]

I guess there is a benefit to me being stuck in diamond 1. No one's cheating to stay there. 😂😂😂

[@Yesh77777]

Same and I’m on Xbox with cross platform disabled

[@spderweb]

Plenty of Smurfs in Diamond. It's obnoxious.

[@hsharky8437]

Diamond is pain on pc

[@shadowartyhd179]

@@hsharky8437 now imagine being champ 2 and got servers dying one by one

[@Pizza_Dough1]

Fr im in champ 2 and havent seen any of this ingqme

[@Notriz.]

Remember when it was 2020? playing rocket league at home, looking for someone to trade, no cheaters and exploiters, Justin garrett squishy are still together, RLCS are booming... ahh good ol' days... now screw today's rocket league

[@PeakrRL]

Ah yes, the good old NRG

[@LeftJoystick]

Nothing will touch the earliest era of 2015 and early 2016 before Flip Resets. Game played entirely differently and was such a laid back experience by comparison. So much more magic to the game bc we could still be surprised. These kids thinking they’ll become streamers or go pro is just…meh. Toxicity is INSANE today lmao.

[@scallopRL]

What’s crazy is I’ve spoken to a few of these hackers and they’ve been doing this since before free to play, the just kept it low key. Apparently there was some beef, codes got stolen and sold off so then it finally hit mainstream

[@CnutLongsword]

Yeah but back then we didn’t have items “also available in Fortnite” so… yeah. :(

[@TheGaara802]

​@@LeftJoystickThat's why you I quit playing this game in 2023 and with this BS glad I did

[@arminbilalic5691]

It’s truly sad what happened to Rocket league. Took away trading, cheaters every where, no new content for years but hey, at least I now can see the boost from my teammates… so sad what this beautiful game has become ever since Epic bought it

[@TheOhWulf]

No new content? then immediately complains about the new content??? what do you want they literally just added team boost visualizers and a whole new region for NA servers lol? both are new things that ppl have been asking for forever... Its a comp game, what brilliant ideas do you have for new content? because every single time i see ppl complaining about this they never have any ideas to add, they just kinda cry. And ignore the fact that new content has definitely been added. Knockout? The other new modes that basically nobody plays? Tournaments? all added after epic bought the dev studio. Trading change sucks but the vast majority of players were not trading regularly. Cheaters are not everywhere. I have over 16,000 games played. I would know lol, yall really are like lil kids dude stg, over dramatic about everything. also post ur tracker so I know im not wasting my time arguing with a braindead plat about the integrity of a comp game. Because ur takes really make it seem like it.

[@arminbilalic5691]

@@TheOhWulf both these things aren’t new content imo but things that should’ve been in the game a long time ago

[@TheOhWulf]

​@@arminbilalic5691 Its new? No? Its content that is actually meaningful and has a decent sized impact on how the game plays? No? But yea its not new content because you think it should have been added at an earlier time...but wasnt. Makes perfect sense. How do you only address a single part of my comment and still mess up so bad wtf Also just going to ignore this entire bit just like I predicted you would?: "What brilliant ideas do you have for new content? because every single time I see ppl complaining about this they never have any ideas to add, they just kinda cry. AND IGNORE THE FACT THAT NEW CONTENT HAS DEFINITELY BEEN ADDED." and no tracker either. Amazing. Either braindead plat like I thought or cant read and thinks to just change the definition of what really qualifies as new content because.....? they should have been in the game before? WHAT? Patch notes are on the RL wiki. You can find all the updates since Epic bought the game and then after reading tell me there has been no new content "for years" plz.

[@TheOhWulf]

@@arminbilalic5691 They are not new or major enough? Because they should have been in the game earlier? WUT? Boost on team8 names is a major change for comp play in 2s and especially 3s. You say you want “Hackers deleted” yes just like every single game that has successfully deleted heckin hackers! Which games are those again? Obviously! Duh how could i be so blind to not think of such a great idea. Thank god we have amazing minds like you on the case! Just do something impossible! Delete the hackers who are not even hackers! Even though real hackers infest nearly every other comp game in existence. Players abusing a few bugs is obviously an issue but its not as big of a problem as the copium addicts in this comment section would like to believe. Invis car players are not hackers. Its a bug. Its been in and out of the game for over 3 years. Check yourself.Youll find posts years and years old about it. “Ddosers” are not hacking either btw. Sever crash exploit/bug. Epic has ddos protection, some of the best around. And ddosing is a fel0ny offence. The scabs crashing servers are not hacking anything. It will get fixed. But the delusion that all of a sudden theres thousands of players with access to b0tnets the size large enough to take down Epics servers on a whim is hilarious. Like just think about it for half a min. What is more likely? People abusing an exploit in the game to crash servers or...there’s just all of a sudden, tons of ddosers all who emerge from the shadows within weeks of eachother and can take down servers worth hundreds of millions and they use it to win a few ranked games… against actual bots like you? Ya know just casually risking ten years in fed and a half a million fine. No biggie. Against Epic Games. A company notorious for ruining the lives of multiple actual hackers with lawsuits and legal fees… Also, Youre never getting UE5 rocket league. How do you not realize this by now? The entire UE5 leak and rumors were all about rocket league racing. You know in fortnite, the game with ue5 support and a brand new rl mode? Again, hilariously cute that you think that though. Any day now… Creation tools would be nice but lets not pretend like custom maps on pc are widely used by anyone for multiplayer. Nor would be even if baked into the game itself. Its a barebones comp game. Theres not much to experiment with, people hardly play the extra modes…because most of players play for the comp side of the game. Rl is not a sandbox and really wouldn’t work well as one. How do yall not get this 9 years into a games life span? Also both yall should take a look at waytons rl tracker. The dude hardly even plays the game anymore. Go free play if you’re so scared of the “hackers” by the time they fix the problem maybe you’ll actually have improved slightly.

[@TheOhWulf]

@@arminbilalic5691 Wait… those new features added recently don’t count as new In your “opinion”? Huh… Because they should have been in the game at an earlier date, but even though they weren’t, but should have been according to… you? So they’re not new? what? You should try reading sometime. “New: not existing before; made, introduced, or discovered recently or now for the first time. “ Do you know what an opinion is? That is not an opinion. Thats a literal delusion youve made up entirely in ur own head. The content is new content… because, get this, crazy difficult, totally wacky concept: They just came out Meaning, they are factually 100%, undeniably new! It’s literally completely time dependent on the release of the point in time the content releases. It’s new because its been in the game for a few weeks and the game has been out for 9 years. Meaning its not only new, but brand new! None of this AT ALL is based around your terrible and objectively, factually wrong “opinion”. Of what qualifies as “new” i think you need a dictionary and to repeat the 1st grade. You don’t just get to decide what is new based on whether or not YOU think it should have been added already. That’s actually insane, that thats the level of mental gymnastics you have to go through just to come to terms with your own horrible takes on factual, objective things like … time? My opinion?: Seek professional help, youre actually batsh*# craaaazy or have a brain injury. Either way should probably get it checked out. Gl!

[@eclipsethesun251]

Cheaters are in rocket league now because they stopped rewarding players who found exploits/bugs with White Hats (good hackers are known as white hats), which were super rare and extremely coveted. Now they’ve got nothing to do with what they find so they just do it in ranked

[@Casual_laughter]

They've been here since Epic bought the game, these invisibility hacks are not new to RL

[@QESleepy]

Not entirely true, they actually pay people money depending on the severity. I don't know if I'm allowed to include names but there have been several people getting 10k for finding severe exploits. The part that is messed up however is that a lot of hackers are actually toning down their findings to Psyonix / Epic because Psyonix / Epic have screwed them over, even when supplying all the information and data.

[@oldkid820]

White hat hackers is actually a cybersecurity term for people who’s job is to find exploits in systems to patch.

[@eclipsethesun251]

@@oldkid820 I’m aware, was oversimplifying, as long as the general idea was conveyed

[@TheBrocean]

You have zero idea what you’re talking about and just wanted to show off you know what a white hat is. This isn’t even close to any form of hacking…

[@eastbayrider9511]

For some clarity coming from a cybersecurity perspective, DDOS stands for Distributed Denial of Service. This is an attack style that usually incorporates potentially hundreds of servers, IoT devices, etc to overload the bandwidth and processing of any victim node. If the attacker is not "distributing" the connections via other methods, then the more standard Denial of Service (DOS) attack makes more sense. I know most gamers use Ddos to refer to server crashes, but just want people to be aware of what these terms actually mean. Ddos's have been common in video games but it seems unlikely to be used here. If bad actors want to take a whole system offline I can see a Ddos being used, which should immediately pop up on Epic's radar. My expertise is in a field adjacent to cyber, but from the looks of it these bad actors are using a more subtle disruption method.

[@VincentVanGirth]

Yap yap yap

[@TriflingToad]

there was one person on Twitter who discovered that their washing machine was being used as part of a server lmao

[@Z38_US]

I guess people use the term Ddos as a universal term for server crashes, like you said. I'm assuming most people don't even know what it stands for in the first place so it's mostly just used as a universal term since most people know what to expect when you say Ddos, that being the server going down.

[@aaron4163]

Your knowledge to the attack is small then. We used to use Cain and able and the Xbox servers themselves to kick players/force host/and lag people out so they could never start a game but the host could run around and kill you and the games would be 25-0. All with 3 programs. Norton 360 pro, had a built in firewall that you could use to boot people if you were host, witeshark to get Xbox servers and proxy servers for matchmaking (there were 4 at the time) as well as you can easily get a persons IP in match because voice chat shows more packets coming through. If not just whitelist yourself and a friend in a private lobby and everyone else is a potential victim. Then IP flood via cane and able. You’re welcome.

[@slingodeluxe]

How psyonix and epic are gonna fix this: 1- Keep getting as much money out of this game as they can with 20 dollar cars 2- funnel out as much of RL as they can into fortnite 3- let rocket league die 4- start over with a new game and repeat

[@grandpahgamer3526]

Why am I afraid this may happen? This take on the situation may be more insightful then many realize. Hopefully, we are all wrong about it.

[@Kzoiks]

Exactly, just ask yourselves why did they acquire Psyonix? It's not because they wanted Rocket League so badly, it's because RL was a competitor they had the opportunity to take out while also trying to funnel as much of the players into fortnite (or at least that's how those execs would think it works). They're doing some cross-promotion nonsense for a while until it's time to pull the plug on RL and tell everyone to move over to the fortnite racing crap. They bought RL for the user base.

[@slingodeluxe]

@@grandpahgamer3526 🤖

[@DYNAMiXRap]

At this point, its time as epicgames to take the rest of psyonix devs every paycheck! And epic games should let fall this game to its ground 0! idgaf what u thinkin! They never were so far away of listening to community as of todays age! only shitty skins, more skins, look new car, more trash skins, skins, skins, another trashcar with the same bs hitbox, skins skins....

[@JUNK_ZONE]

You missed a vacation or two in there.

[@supercyberdigi]

I'm an old TF2 player with experience of the devs abandoning us. The joke over there is that it's a single janitor working on the game. Guess it's starting to apply to RL as well.

[@e4rtiuh3eoktnjrgsaetrolki]

thanks for standing still wanka

[@TheOhWulf]

how? use ur brain plz the devs abandoning us by adding a brand new feature to the game with boost meters on team tags? new servers? wut are you even saying? actually a 4head moment.

[@quickgamingnerd]

there's no way broseph got angry that someone commented about devs STARTING to abandon a game on a video about devs abandoning the game, which is showed by the lack of care and action taken against hackers

[@supercyberdigi]

"use ur brain plz" @@TheOhWulf oh yes, nice new servers that have been requested for probably 8 years now. The boost meter for teammates is a great feature, that could also have been part of the base game 8 years ago. Did we need them right now? Not necessarily but it's definitely nice. What do we actually need now? Hackers deleted. New unreal engine to bring back more players + ingame creation tools. The return of trading to make the game feel less like a complete moneysink. It's just that the timing of this update makes it feel like a bandaid that is covering a festering wound which requires surgery.

[@TheOhWulf]

@@supercyberdigi theyre not new or major enough? Because they should have been in the game earlier? Wtf? Boost on team8 names is a huuuge change for comp play. You say you want “Hackers deleted” yes just like every single game that has successfully deleted heckin hackers! Obviously! Duh how could i be so blind to not think of such a great idea. Thank god we have amazing minds like you on the case! Just do something impossible! Delete the hackers who are not even hackers! Even though real hackers infest nearly every other comp game in existence. Players abusing a few bugs is obviously a huuuuge issue. Invis car players are not hackers. Its a bug. Its been in and out of the game for over 3 years. Check yourself. Youll find posts years and years old about it. “Ddosers” are not hacking either btw. Sever crash exploit/bug. Epic has ddos protection, some of the best around. And ddosing is a felony offence. The rats crashing servers are not hacking anything. It will get fixed. But the delusion that all of a sudden theres thousands of players with access to botnets the size big enough to take down Epics servers on a whim is hilarious. Like just think about it for half a min. What is more likely? People abusing an exploit in the game to crash servers or…..there’s just all of a sudden ton of ddosers all who emerge from the shadows within weeks of eachother and can take down servers worth hundreds of millions of dollars and they use it to win a few ranked games…? Ya know just casually risking ten years in prison and a half a million fine. No biggie. Against Epic Games. A company notorious for ruining the lives of multiple actual hackers with lawsuits and legal fees… Youre never getting unreal engine 5 rocket league. How do you not realize this by now? The entire UE5 leak and rumors was all about rocket league racing. You know in fortnite, the game with ue5 support and a brand new rl mode? Again, hilariously cute that you think that though. Creation tools would be nice but lets not pretend like custom maps on pc are widely used by anyone for multiplayer. Nor would be even if baked into the game itself. Its a barebones comp game. Theres not much to experiment with, people hardly play the extra modes…because 90% of players play for the comp side of the game. Rl is not a sandbox and really wouldn’t work well as one. How do yall not get this 9 years into a games life span? Also both yall should take a look at waytons rl tracker. The dude hardly even plays the game anymore. How would he know? The hackers have obviously been preventing wayton from playing too this season…. And the last and also the one before that. Clearly he couldnt be over exaggerating anything for views and ad revenue. Right guys? Right??? Go free play if you’re so scared of the “hackers” by the time they fix the problem maybe you’ll actually have improved?

[@Sodacuhmeeks]

Take it off free to play and see how many people still cheat. That was the biggest mistake.

[@GmBalla]

the community agreed to make it free to significantly increase the player base. people didn’t use to cheat because the a.i needed to cheat was absolutely garbage. but then a few nerds decided to have a competition on who can make the smartest and mechanical robot and they uploaded it for public use.

[@witheringhs7766]

@@GmBalla what's sad is that the community encouraged and supported these stupid robots being created... it's as if not a single person has realized how chess was ruined, and this game uses the same elo system. What the f did you all expect?

[@hotbeerjosh9019]

I have played since day 1 and this is the 1 game I can say that was light years better before "improvements". 1. Hitboxes used to be specific to the car, now they make no sense. 2. Crates were an awesome part of the game. 3. MAPS had octagons, valleys and ramps 4. Trading between friends 5. No cheaters 6. Rare items that could only be rolled and not purchased Game is ruined and I quit about 10 months ago. I still keep up with these videos because I played for about 8 years, but really don't understand what devs were thinking.

[@kesler4195]

I know that epic eas thinking: maximize money at the expense kf everything else

[@TheGalacticVoid]

I'm convinced that Epic wanted Psyonix for the team and not the games, even though they ended up firing a huge portion of it. It's a real shame

[@YtStaffMember]

hitbox standarisation was a good thing

[@pubert19]

you're just a crybaby it's literally the same game as before nothing fundamental has changed

[@YtStaffMember]

@rossovergmd obvious bait (or youre just stupid)

[@Beef-Strokinoff]

Dang, cheaters at the high ranks, smurfs all over the place at lower ranks. It's hard to see such a great game getting ruined by things that are so easily preventable.

[@purplecrowbar1332]

Cheating is “so easily preventable”? Can we get you on the phone with the developers of every game made in the last 20 years, I’m sure they’d love your incredible insight, you must be a superhuman programmer.

[@Beef-Strokinoff]

@@purplecrowbar1332 so hostile for no good reason lol. You must be an enjoyable person to be around

[@CactousMan639]

and besides opponent smurfs in party, boosted teammates in solo q also ruin it ;(

[@roland1278]

​@@CactousMan639totally true. I almost always play with premade (usually with less than 50mmr difference between us) and it always seem funny than you either play against people struggling to hit ball when its not on the ground or against people basically doing mk&jzr combos. For me, boosted teammates are not the problem, but i can only imagine the pain solo queuers feel. The worst part is that theres no straight forward solution for that. Only thing i can think of is somekind of verification, like prime in csgo or actually working level requirements to play competitive.

[@ELITE-PIZZA]

Imagine being so bad at a game that you need to hack/cheat

[@billyrussell8684]

That’s not why hackers start tbh. They find enjoyment in breaking games. If epic didn’t take away the white hats and trading I doubt this woulda happened to the extent it has.

[@Duddy8822]

@@billyrussell8684yea but these guys are just losers

[@Lynix27]

App jack played one that was pretty good

[@ELITE-PIZZA]

@@Lynix27 ok

[@jacksonmagas9698]

@@billyrussell8684 there are two different groups of people, the hack creators who find breaking the game fun and or want to make money selling hacks, and then the hack users who are no life basement dwellers

[@Lanz7183]

I honestly quit rocket league 3 months ago, and with this im even MORE glad I quit. Rocket League just keeps going down, it's sad because it was a great game at one point. Edit: Thank you for all the likes and replies!

[@edgeribble]

i believe in the comeback

[@LegXacy]

@@edgeribble No, we need competition, without a competitor Epic will keep being comfortable with these terrible conditions.

[@cooperellis3412]

I did the same thing

[@Popple.]

I quit as well when Fortnite started becoming really popular again and I’m glad I did. Rocket league killed itself, and I don’t see it coming back.

[@blooodbat007]

Yeah stuff like this makes me want to uninstall for sure. Unfortunately there's no game like it at all even remotely. So I just queue up and play for fun.

[@NotPhoenic]

there werent as many cheaters before because RL still had a purchase price, now they can just remake an epic/steam account and keep going

[@anubis7589]

There has been cheaters long before f2p.

[@Hydra48]

@@anubis7589 Yeah but then these people can't blame epic lol

[@joshshultz1250]

@@anubis7589 There's more now

[@Icabod-os6rg]

@@anubis7589 Read what he said before replying please.

[@Icabod-os6rg]

True. There also wasn't as many smurfs! Going f2p was a stupid greedy decision in a game that doesn't work well with that model.

[@pokermonfacegaming]

Epic killed the game with their greed. Instead of lifting the game up, they melted it for as long as possible, while spending minimum effort into releasing new features. On top of all of that, they removed trading, which made a large percentage of the player base stop playing the game, because they felt betrayed.

[@evanater13]

And I i thought smurfing was out of control when I quit last year. What a save.

[@spencersuckow4857]

bro... getting airdribble cringed while invisible is absolutely hilarious xD

[@CnutLongsword]

That play has to be one of the most satisfying things that has ever happened in RL. It’s such a big “fuck you, you suck, go outside and play” to the hacker 😂

[@knucklesmusic7590]

Imagine using the Term airdribble cringe. Its a normal mechanic to bump someone in the game, git gud to Defense it or score more goals

[@SealsOnMC]

@@knucklesmusic7590get good at spelling 😇😜📚😊

[@farexponent9173]

​@@SealsOnMCcringe

[@SealsOnMC]

@@farexponent9173 😉

[@Protos122]

It really breaks my heart. Rocket League was my favorite game of all, I've started playing in 2017, spent 3,400 hours in it (that's A LOT for me) and was in the top 2% in 3vs3. I stopped playing in season 1 after epic games took over the game. Long before the nexto bots. I see that epic games left this game to die, they don't have enough profit from it to fix such an extensive cheating problem. What a shame

[@bazkie]

I wish they'd sell it again to a company that cares about games primarily, instead of money... f#*! epic

[@davidd2661]

@@bazkie why would they sell it if they can milk it for 5 more years. RL players are really stupid and usually spoiled kids/brats which spend money on some virtual pixels. These are the people who keep this hellhole open. If they weren't spending anything, RL would become unprofitable and epic would sell it.

[@nate9948]

I was top 0.2% or top 15,000 right before the free to play update, one month after the free to play update I dropped down to 60,000. After that I kinda just stopped caring and playing as much, this game is dying and as much as it sucks I knew it was coming when epic games acquired RL.

[@IBNZ1W]

Lol, Epic Games giving a shit about Rocket League? LOL. They have been spending too much time making Fortnite “great again”

[@lemon66111]

they’re making fn worse

[@shaddr_4975]

People still play that? I though that game was just a gimmick.

[@IBNZ1W]

@@shaddr_4975 you’ll be surprised. Said no one ever.

[@darkmedos8452]

Fortnite is struggling with cheaters too and epic still hasn’t done anything about it

[@IBNZ1W]

@@darkmedos8452 Imagine if Epic sold Rocket League and it went back up on Steam, I’d be overjoyed, it’ll never happen but Epic have always been dogshit with Anticheat systems.

[@leonitasmaximus4004]

2024 is the year of the smurf. Yet RL has no reporting option for smurfing. I have 7k hours on RL and the smurfing is the biggest problem in the current season. Playing diamond or low champ games stacked with SSL and GC players. Going free was the beginning of the end for RL.

[@feintlesstv]

There is a similar situation in Apex Legends right now. There is a guy who keeps taking #1 Apex Predator (#1 SSL in translation) by miles from ending the game in approximately 2 minutes.. the games take 15-20 minutes usually. interesting to see it in other games too

[@anirishladwithoutemploymen6319]

Exact same thing with r6 on console, the top 50 are all elo trappers or dossers if you will

[@realterrific]

I remember when you found an exploit you used to be able to report it in exchange for a white hat which was valuable because you could trade it.

[@TheExigency]

Real. Now you get a dunce cap for thinking Epic would actually do anything about it

[@steelerfaninperu]

And this is why free-to-play is terrible for gaming. If people had to pay money to create a new account each time they did something like this, it would stop pretty much overnight.

[@Lasair517]

That's not really true though, CS:GO had massive cheating problems even in lower ranks way before it went free to play, and I'm sure there are more examples. Hell, CS:GO still had cheating issues in the paid queue after FTP was released.

[@steelerfaninperu]

@@Lasair517 That's a problem with enforcement then. I don't deny paid gaming can still have cheaters, but then that's on the devs to crack down and actually go after those people. Plus, if people stop buying the game because of cheaters, that creates an incentive for devs to reduce cheating possibilities. In FTP, it's basically impossible to stop, and there's really no incentive for the company to do anything about it.

[@Lasair517]

@@steelerfaninperu I think you're wrong about a lot of that, but most of all I just want to mention how in a game you pay for, there can be a perverse incentive for the owners of the game not to crack down. Because cheaters buy the game again and again after banwaves. Unlike normal players. In the end I don't think the issue is FTP, not when it comes to cheating anyway. As long as there is known methods to cheat in a game, there will be cheaters.

[@misiabdrck]

@@Lasair517 yeah but people were just buying csgo botted accounts or from Argentina peso for 0.5/1$

[@commachameleon5717]

@@Lasair517 FTP was a terrible decision, thats just facts. and they would have every incentive to crack down on them so that they would have to keep buying the game since obviously the banwave isnt strong enough

[@DeejayJeanP]

Epic and Psyonix will never change anything because the game is making them money and barely costs any money to keep running. That's how business and corporate greed works.

[@joshuaprick2596]

I got around 4k hours in RL but stopped playing games over a year ago. Now I spend 99% of my time in freeplay oder custom training just messing around with some freestyle shots while listening to audio books. Once a month I play 1 or 2 games but that's it. Really brought back the fun for me.

[@somerandomdudefes31]

After 4,000 hours, I quit a few months ago and have no regrets.

[@n_.i._n]

I quit 1 year ago with 800 hours and I have no regrets either

[@BoroBoysGaming]

6k hours here quit a year ago xD cant even stand 5 mins of it now before turning it off

[@jakeMTSU]

same i quit with 2k hrs in, game was dead a long time ago lol... no regrets

[@barnoczkyvince9548]

Me too and it feels really good

[@Nix_IoI]

Same but i come back just to see how the game i used to grind a lot is going and its not looking so well

[@Prashrey]

The game will die if they don't act up. No one wants to play an unfair game

[@Icabod-os6rg]

There's a lot of people who already feel it is unfair when you can make a new account on a whim and the ranks are a joke now.

[@ReDHaWko]

@@Icabod-os6rg im pretty new but im move up and down between gold and plat. one game we walk over people the next game a player does air drippling madness.

[@Icabod-os6rg]

@@ReDHaWko Yep. There's too much variety in skill at each rank. I see champs who still wiff and make dumb mistakes

[@davidd2661]

lots of idiots still buy their things. if they weren't, RL would be dead by now. Let's mercy-kill this shithole of a game that used to be lovable. Let's not support a company which doesn't care about their customers. Fuck RL, fuck epic

[@DragonRyuken777]

Recently I’ve had MANY many unplayable servers where everyone would start lagging and my team would be lagging while the other team can freely love and score. I’m in the C3-Gc2 range of the game. They need to make it so that if it’s a 4-0 lead, and the “server disconnects” the winning team gets their W. Tired of losing 10 mins of my life to a 1 trick pony.

[@AdinatorHD_mapping]

i once ran in a dos hacker in a tournament we didnt even join in the match but the server crashed for me and my 2 tm8 and our internet was completely fine. rocket league should fix this

[@BOBBYMCBOBSTER]

I play in Oceana servers and I never thought they would do it to us but I get kicked out of every 1/3 matches by some hacker and I get close to 3000 ping! Absolute insanity

[@scotttripp2137]

i highly doubt epic cares about any of it as long as they can still make money

[@Astro-vt3bx]

But if it gets outta hand, people will leave, and then epic will start to help cause they'll make less money with all the loss of players

[@Tehfatalist]

i think they care but it can be a hard thing to fix. We dont know

[@shadowartyhd179]

they actually dont fix it for obvious reason ; Actually content x)

[@iRedtracx]

They don’t care unless you’re Fortnite

[@qmerk2661]

if your a game dev, you'll notice the problems in your games. (devs don't make games and then not pay attention to them.) if your a game dev, you'll notice that the biggest thing to worry about is money to keep funding the game or the time you need to keep working on it. and you'll do almost anything to keep getting those funds. especially if its a big game like rl. if your game has cheaters and nobody talks about it, then people usually just leave and don't play the game.. unfortunately then the problem is the fact that your game has cheaters in your game and is not good for business. BUT!... if your game has cheaters and youtubers find out that there's tons of content to be had(making them money), and the devs see that all this does is brings more attention to the game (making them money) while players keep playing it, then why rush to get rid of the cheaters?

[@proofofexistence1580]

Honestly I believe RL is a learning experience for all of us understand that games will be traded from company to company and then you will see the companies that actually care about maintaining the games or just milk it for cash. This isn't the first time and it wont be the last. 343 Killed my childhood game Halo and there's no updates to DLC, nothing but now we know 343 is a trash company that only cares about milking us, just like epic.

[@fluffymoment654]

Great video Wayton! The documentary that will be 30 mins long will feel so fresh since you don't usually post long videos. Keep it up!

[@HerrMau]

Let's face it - cheating is a global problem for all multiplayer games and on the brink of destroying our gaming hobby forever. The only way to fight it is to prevent people being able to generate new accounts so easily. For example you could give up being anonymous by having a system in place where game publishers or a 3rd party system links accounts to real world addresses - if an account with your address gets banned, you won't get a new account linked to this address in any game anymore. Or something of the sort.

[@TriflingToad]

yeah I don't want to live in a world where I can be banned from every game ever because some mod is power tripping

[@HerrMau]

@@TriflingToad Well, it should include being banned some several games with a strike system or w/e. And you already live in a world where power trippers can screw you over. It's a matter of balance of power and how to design a system that can handle fails and corruption. The solution is NOT to just let everyone fuck over the rest of us without consequences.

[@oceanbytez847]

They already have that. It's called IP. There is no way to spoof or fake IP in a way that won't massively impact internet performance. Game devs only very rarely IP ban because on financial spreadsheets it looks good when hackers buy hundreds of throwaways. Basically, banning cheaters and allowing them to buy a new game is good for the shareholders. Game devs as a result have conflicting interests.

[@HerrMau]

@@oceanbytez847 I get a new IP every day with my ISP. And you could use your neighbours WiFi and ban their IP. Sorry, but this doesn't work, many people thought about IP bans but there is a good reason this will never be used.

[@cheesesliceoflife1462]

I really don't care about cheating on the leader boards. In 40 years of video gaming, I have never, ever cared about leaderboards, not even the ones in old arcade machines. But there is cheating the gameplay, then that is a major problem.

[@doublemode4088]

Makes since, it’s sad to see this game dying but unfortunately all things must come to an end.

[@kennnyau2455]

Still lots of people playing it

[@TheOhWulf]

Yall are soooo crings I stg, game is "dying" with 35k people on steam? Almost TEN YEARS after release???? Not including Epic launcher, and all console players? Steam charts is a free resource. You mfs act like actual drones, the only thing dying is your critical thinking skills. "makes sense" LOL??????

[@VincentVanGirth]

Dont make excuses for Epic being dogshit

[@TheOhWulf]

game is dying? steam charts is free you drone. "come to an end" so dramatic holy xD stg you people cannot think critically AT ALL. Actual NPCs in real lmaooooo

[@ViceXXII]

Had a Ddos hacker recently, casual players won't recognize them but i instantly knew something was up

[@TheOhWulf]

how could you tell? I have 16k games played over 4k hours and a college education in IT, Networking specifically. There is no way to tell, if the server is getting DDoSed vs normal regular server issues, a third party would have no way of knowing outside of tracking your ops on leaderboards or tracker. And even then there is no 100% way to. Especially on a game with servers this bad. But plz do share your great wisdom since you just "instantly" know. Gooofy bro.

[@nolifeorname5731]

​@@TheOhWulfdisclaimer: not a RL player. Sure you can't be 100% certain it's a ddos unless you've got server logs, but a ddos attack does follow a pretty typical pattern of service degradation quickly ramping up until no traffic makes it through. I do wonder if it might be some other DoS attack though since the server seems to crash very quickly. It could be something like a buffer overflow that people misattribute to ddos. Either way the result is the same for gameplay purposes

[@Z38_US]

@@nolifeorname5731 In the case of RL the only way to really know if the server was crashed by someone intentionally is to look up their other games and see if this happens regularly with them in the game. If it does it's intentional, if not you have nothing as evidence to say it is.

[@volks5410]

​@TheOhWulf who asked

[@TheOhWulf]

@@volks5410 you 4 weeks later?

[@redpandaclips.]

epic doesn't care, thats all i have to say

[@FalseDwightScrute]

Agreed, I uninstalled rocket league, been playing since 2016, best decision I’ve ever made. I’ll wait for rl2 from a real company.

[@redpandaclips.]

@@FalseDwightScrute lol

[@XSorrowGamingX]

Just like they dgaf about fortnite hackers

[@redpandaclips.]

@@XSorrowGamingX yeah, epic is just a money hungry company. Fortnite went popular then they decided not to care about their players

[@Sizzyl]

Wild how they consistently hit rank 1 lol, imagine how many less blatant cheaters are just chilling in top 100 or so without pushing the limits and not getting banned.

[@StephaniaDo]

absolutely stunning visuals, they complement your narration perfectly!

[@carl1.0]

Explaining LJ is the mmr recordman in 2024 is the most NA bias i've ever seen.

[@Br4vado]

Smurfing wont ever be taken care of because the amount of alt accounts being crrated everyday makes their game look popular to partners/sponsors for their pro events when they submit their qaurtley numbers. Look 7/11 look ally see how our game is becoming more popular every week all these new players! Give us money please

[@swagie_]

smurfing isn't nearly as negative as cheats tho. also keep in mind that a lot of people are forced to play on alts to have an enjoyable experience with their lower/higher ranked friends without ruining the ladder. it's not something often talked about but that's a bigger part of the community than you'd expect

[@Br4vado]

@@swagie_ but it does ruin the ladder at the start and end of every season atleast for my rank.. people r carrying their lower ranked friends for rewards which in turns ruins the ladder for people actually trying to climb Ive had my champ rewards for like 5 seasons and im not so sure about this one because every time i party up the other team always has someone on a unranked fresh 800mmr account while they r sitting at 1097 or similar in diamond lobbies its terrible and will never get fixed. Mmr disparity doesnt work with unranked accounts and they wont tighten up the mmr average between lobby match ups

[@leodaweeb6969]

Smurfing is present in any online competitive game and is really hard to prevent, it's not something exclusive to Rocket League. The only way I can think of to fix this is to require phone number verification for every account you make.

[@Br4vado]

@@leodaweeb6969 The point is that they won't take any steps to prevent it. Because it affects their bottom line. You know that's a business. And I get it, but I guess it's just more prevalent in this game It's like you have to play at a certain time of day on certain servers to have better odds like est after 8pm at diamond rank its like every other game there is a fresh account if ur in a party with someone Its like u cant play in parties because the average mmr gap is not tight enough And unranked accounts have no rank disparity

[@Onoesmahpie]

​@@leodaweeb6969how exactly do you distinguish between a closet cheater and a "Smurf"? I'm honestly convinced that Smurf is a term cheaters created to gaslight legit players. The websites that sell steam accounts also sell cheats so I find it very hard to believe that people buy accounts with botted hours but not cheats

[@nikitaworsley]

I gotta respect someone still out here making RL videos

[@rsgagliano]

This version is already old, the new version is already on my channel

[@soulseeker42388]

I am constantly hit with that DDOS hack. I'll be winning, and then all of a sudden, the game crashes and laggs out, glitching me all over the map. I knew they were lag switching. I usually report the server and that's what help to bring it to their attention more.

[@DragonRyuken777]

Rocket Leagues downfall really needs to be studied. How do you fumble such a masterpiece of a game.

[@ithmiths]

Because its epic games. Thwy fumbled fortnite fir fk sake.

[@PeakrRL]

@@ithmiths second grader spotted Nah im joking lol

[@lemon66111]

@@ithmithsthey fumble everything they touch i miss chapter 2 fn

[@Packedburrito]

Wintrading in 2s works like this. U have 3 accounts that will be gaining rank, and 1 account that always loses. Then u just rotate each account to the dead accounts team and snipe yourself with a VPN. So account 4 will be our dead account, so 1-2 vs 3-4. Then next game would be 3-1 vs 2-4. Then 2-3 vs 1-4. It's a 2:1 win loss ratio so u still go positive. I did a test and I got 3 fresh accounts to ssl with rewards in 2 hours. It wouldn't be a hard fix at all either. Just add a simple filter patch that won't let 4 players on the same IP q into the same lobby😂

[@ChumBucket65]

yo bro, can u give me ur discord name i wanna add u. teach me

[@Packedburrito]

@@ChumBucket65 for what?

[@ChumBucket65]

@@Packedburrito to teach mee

[@zhlvk]

@@ChumBucket65 aint no way bro sucks at video games so much he gotta cheat in car soccer. go outside man, its not worth it

[@ChumBucket65]

@@zhlvk I do go outside lil bro. I don’t sit on my az everyday like u do lmao

[@TheAnimeSounds]

first 2-3 years were golden in RL, everyone just played. Nowadays...community changed a lot. Quiters, afkers, trolls...its waaayy too toxic there. And when RL went to epic/F2P, that was last nail to the coffin.

[@timogle4840]

It's out of control everywhere lately. I recently quit 2 of my long-time favorite games because reporting the cheaters doesn't do anything and it's getting worse to the point that it ruins the games.

[@darksinthe]

im 41 years old. FPS was my favorite genre for most of my life. I was very highly skilled at FPS games, I hit rank 24 in a ladder with thousands of people in duke nukem 3D when I was 12. I played FPS forever, and I eventually quit FPS games because of wallhacks and aimbots (which I proved to myself were real by trying one, realizing thru the cheat how common other players were cheating, and instantly quitting FPS games the day after, that was 8 years ago, havent been back since) And now its happening to my favorite game of all time. GOS and other hacks, it is making me physically sick. I cant even enjoy my favorite game anymore that I chose to escape from children who suck at life in FPS games, now its here too. It is sickening.

[@Szd_osrs]

Halo 3 had a system where you wouldn't gain rank if you're playing the same opponent 3+ times in a row. Something like this could help discourage MMR boosting.

[@redvic83]

But at such high levels when getting a queue is so rare you are more likely to get lobbies that are just the same over and over again cause there just aren't enough people queuing

[@xdeep_freeze3684]

@@redvic83 ^ great point to add here. Man, instead of nerfing the game we should nerf humans. They're too op and predictable

[@redvic83]

@@xdeep_freeze3684 lol, I think they need to implement some sort of hardware ban so it's not easy to just make a new account to evade the ban

[@ZEROVOK]

@@redvic83 Like Valorant does.

[@genericfriend2568]

As a Fortnite player, I can tell you outright that Psyonix is more focused on Fortnite Rocket Racing than Rocket League. They're abandoning your game for ours and I'm sorry for your loss.

[@ejg2286]

Rocket racing isn't even that good.

[@TeigtascheMitHack]

Ufff.. :(😢

[@talldinosaur]

witnessed this happen to omarmaton about a month ago on stream, he was actually beating the invisible hacker until he got booted offline, stream froze and then abruptly ended. everyone in chat was telling omar to just ff and leave but he was hell bent on beating him😂

[@Terro-xc9mw]

I laugh at any hacker that stops me from playing the game. Use whatever crutches you need, kiddo. I'll still have fun learning to beat you. But kicking me from the game? That's just sad... you won't even try to win. That's how little confidence you have. You can't even try to win with every advantage in the world.

[@iceage7576]

Epic ruined the game. It is just draining full send down the sink since their takeover. so many smurfs and cheaters... Smurfs and Cheaters are the epitome of failures.

[@vg_cloud]

Why don’t they do the white hats again, why don’t they bring back trading, the white hats (for those who don’t know) where given to people who hacked rocket league, and reported it so basically rocket leagues security could be improved, and hacking was basically never a thing because people who could hack, would rather have a white hate worth a lot, then cheat, not with 0 incentive not to why wouldn’t they hack, epic games is gonna be rocket leagues downfall, the game may never die, but there’s 0 chance it’ll ever peak again

[@jedh116]

Cheating is a huge problem with almost all of epic’s games

[@teenageapple3788]

Not Fortnite. I’m frankly surprised that in every match I’ve been I haven’t found any hackers at all

[@jedh116]

@@teenageapple3788 Fortnite’s anticheat is very strong, but there is a big problem with hackers in tournaments right now

[@Z38_US]

@@teenageapple3788 Correction, you haven't found any hackers you know of.

[@HimmyNeutr0n1]

Epic buying out psyonix ruined rocket league

[@ToxiqSnaiQ]

i thought the game would die after the trading ended and after many youtubers quit, did the playerbase drop or am i the only one affected?

[@whiskeyjack1937]

Just a guess but the vast majority of people probably dont trade so the impact of removing trading was vastly overrated. I myself have thousands of hours but have never traded.

[@declancottle991]

I haven't played rocket league much lately because of school and other obligations, but it stinks to see a game I love so much fall into the trash and become a cesspool for the worst kind of person out there. I feel bad for those who cheat, because they don't have the skill or resolve to get good, so they resort to ruining the game for everyone. They're not even having fun because being top of the leader board doesn't mean anything when you cheated to get there.

[@johnwinter2252]

A similar situation happened in CSGO in 2022 where hackers were kicking people from servers but were able to remain in themselves making the game automatically win for them. They sent valve servers fake TCP requests on a loop and forced the game's timeout time to go from 25 seconds to 3000 seconds only on their client.

[@lochlancrandall5330]

For every like this comment gets I will free one cat from the hands of my grandma

[@WaytonPilkin]

What lmfao

[@billyrussell8684]

No the birds need your grandma

[@CactousMan639]

@@WaytonPilkin wat

[@Harricota]

I say if you get banned, you cannot make another account.

[@jet23851]

It’s like the PS4 being hacked and the 5. I got cheated on. The ball literally stopped the ball where they wanted. Mid kickoff. Or right in front of their goal. Ugh

[@jet23851]

Yup!

[@DanielSmith-m1d]

I don't understand cheating in this game, no one cares if you have an SSL title if you play like a plat 2

[@ibekevo]

Woah.. Shooters are my main game type & I’ve NEVER seen spin bot.. You literally learn something new everyday.

[@Christopher-de6vy]

All gaming is starting to suck. Theres hackers in almost every game. Its sad people cant take an l and keep moving anymore. I gave up gaming 2 years ago and havent even thought about going back. Its basically a waste of money anymore

[@teoz871]

keep going Wayton, you are doing great, very nice video. Hope they fix the cheating problem asap

[@Zylenxx]

Heres the reason why cheating is even a thing: psyonix gave this game to epic games

[@BiggusBenjamin]

I appreciate you blurring all of the names, not giving them the attention they live off of

[@eChuckNorris]

This looks like the old Halo 2 dos attacks. You could basically just check the IPs of incoming connections then throttle a firewall with the IPs of opponents blacklisted to cause large delays and disconnections.

[@Thomasis5]

A couple days ago, me and my friend was in the finals of a champ tournament, about to win the first game, when we noticed that one of the other players on the other team had a consistent red 380 ping not moving at all. With around 1 minute left i guess the hacker screwed the coding up ended up doing it on themselves. The match ended but it didn't say they forfeited, it just said it ended like a normal match when the ball touched the ground with 0 seconds. The same thing happened in the second match and we luckily ended up winning. They was also super bad at the game, so we could only guess they made it to the finals using that method. The semi-finals was honestly the real finals here

[@defenitelyhuman5380]

I remember encountering a smurf and he was on xbox, so i screamed in vc "XBOX TURN OFF" and safe to say i never saw him again

[@crossrazor]

I appreciate you making a documentary about me and the struggles of silver in RL.

[@KennySherwood10]

making several accounts is defended by all the smurf cowards that killed this community, i think its AWESOME to see win traders use that very same system to ruin the ranks for those smurfs...God bless the win traders, avenging everyone whoever got knocked out of a diamond tourney due to running into GC smurf accts.

[@9slayer7]

My favorite line for work rings true here. "When you don't plan maintenance. Maintenance will plan itself"

[@Blurple11]

I was always in the lead by 3 goals and then the servers would just die which then i would lose points.

[@dreamy1855]

Great video updating everyone how bad these situations are. Let’s hope epic sort this out asap

[@MemphisKilljoy]

Great video, ive been running into smurfs and people D dosing ever since they opened up the new centeal servers. Its getting ridiculous and less fun to play

[@seanbrindley63]

Going free to play was one of the worst decisions Psyonix made with rocket league. Smurfing is off the scale.

[@Jr_live23]

I got ddos'd for the first time on rl last night. Plat tourney, tied game, 30 secs left then the server just dies.

[@Dillan2003]

Wow man great video! You earned my subscription!.

[@YunoSenpaii]

Its sad to see that that epic/psyonics dont do anything about the obv. issues of the game. And on top they removed trading...

[@Perfumery_by_Sabin]

I’ve even gotten banned 2 games in a row of ranked placements because the server crashed 2 times. Banned 10min.

[@kentslaney]

If I had to guess, the DDOS works by killing the network nodes before the game server that the attacker isn't on, so the game server isn't under load, but the routes that the other players use go down, causing only them to disconnect. You can check this theory by running a traceroute (or mtr) to the game server IP to see which links are dropping packets.

[@snowyspeedy]

1:27 As a brawl stars player I think I know what wintrading is💀💀💀

[@XEra404]

I think you made it worse. People were poorly attempting it last night. Popping in on one team and switching back and forth

[@SVGc1993]

If Epic is gonna let Rocket League die, AT LEAST RELEASE THE SOURCE CODE OF THE GAME! This... is all so sooo damn unprofessional from Psyonix/Epic Games.....

[@makavelismith]

Well, they've been coasting on this game for years. Oh they release a new stadium every season. wow. their way of mixing it up is to remove dropshot. wow thanks guys. Oh, smurfs every 3rd game? do nothing? great thanks.

[@Allthenamesweretaken17]

Now Im glad that me and my friends are all plats

[@GordonBowater]

Epic doesn't give a fuck and Psyonix got their money.

[@lunatic1336]

bro the ddosing cheaters happened to me couple days ago in a champ tournament we were tied in OT and all of a sudden server went down and they ended up scoring... shocker. Looked back at the bracket and they ended up winning the whole thing.

[@MisterMondeller]

We see it in GTAO too. What plays in the background, is the legal issues behind penalizing actions like bans and erasing accounts. When the laws/countries caught up, more actions are possible, and do happen. If no laws were there, the game server owner can just see who is using artificial input and erase them. The intricacy thus lays within the legal backgrounds and insufficiency of player database management.

[@HeatherVN_GOTH]

Thank you for sharing this

[@Jonasofzo]

I recently went from C1 to GC1 and damn I almost want to go back down😂 everyone is so toxic and stops playing after you make 1 mistake... It's fkn crazy out there

[@BSGamlng]

Experienced the invisible hack years ago. Interesting how it's only just now becoming more popular.

[@kiwi4502]

Bruhhhhh that’s why I’ve been disconnecting from so many freaking games and losing mmr. It’s been actually making me so frustrated at the game. But at this point I’ve come to terms with the fact that Epic wants to see RL die in a dumpster fire so it is what it is ig

[@mechan2535]

ill be honest after 1,500 hours of playing rocket league, which isnt alot to some but to me its a huge amount of hours after 1,500 i uninstalled rocket league i just dont find the game enjoyable anymore and i cant handle cheaters.

[@thezfunk]

Sunless made an interesting observation on his channel. He said he thought it got bad after they ended trading. I didn't realize this but if you reported an exploit/hack the devs would give you the rarest item in Rocket League which is a white hat, I guess. That practice stopped, mysteriously. He theorized that once trading was gone, there was no way to give someone a white hat so the bounty system was retired. They really have done nothing but make this whole game worse.

[@Perfumery_by_Sabin]

Every game is pretty much ruined by bad servers at this point. I can hardly even play it. Every game feels tainted. In a game where every second counts this is infuriating

[@DNixon845]

Like everything in life…humans make it worse or completely ruin it.👍

[@nuns199312]

epic wont care, more banned accounts = more money