The Biggest Investment Of Dragons' Den Season 1 | Dragons’ Den

A former New York magazine editor, Huw Gwyther is seeking an investment of £175,000 and in return, he's prepared to give away a 17.5% equity stake in his new venture 'Wonderland'. Wonderland is an international, independently published magazine offering a unique perspective on the best new and established talent across all popular culture: fashion, film, music, and art.
Huw Gwyther secured a £175,000 investment from Peter Jones to launch WONDERLAND in the finale of the first season of Dragons' Den filmed in late 2004.
An international sensation, Dragon's Den features entrepreneurs pitching for investment in the Den from our Dragons, five venture capitalists willing to invest their own money in exchange for equity.
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[@Sam-bn7jk]

Long story short: today Wonderland Magazine has 67 employees and a 31 million pounds revenue each year.

[@Sam-qh1sh]

Hello Sam

[@marymccaffrey48]

How wonderful

[@saulhetherington964]

i wish i read that first

[@saraspiano2]

It says 43 million in revenue!

[@samgraham9754]

Wow amzing. Thanks for sharing that

[@ketchup5344]

I wrote to this guy and he wrote me a lovely letter back. He's a top bloke and i always knew he would do well with his magazine. Its excellent.

[@thewildrangers5070]

So you claim

[@brianvincent655]

You get about a bit David! Not a criticism by the way. Sure I have seen you on Sir Cliff Richard uploads,........which is a compliment, as Cliff is the dogs bollocks.

[@andromaxbse6459]

Wrote about what??

[@ketchup5344]

@@andromaxbse6459 That I loved the way he presented and that I loved his ideas he had for a magazine and that he was going to do very well in my opinion. I was right.

[@andromaxbse6459]

@@ketchup5344 wow, interesting!

[@jahswinonoh5351]

update: Wonderland Magazine is now worth $220M in 2021

[@epargnepension2262]

Never seen investment so prolific in the show, probably the biggest success ! The guy was 100% convinced of its business but not being arrogant, well played to him

[@jamesjohno1180]

I’m so glad, as soon as I seen it I don’t know if it’s been in my brain from when I have seen it out but I said I would have invested

[@pippipster6767]

Nonsense

[@huskiehuskerson5300]

@@epargnepension2262 tangle teezer

[@rageeth]

😮😮😮😮

[@hamza361]

Fun fact: This is still Peter’s highest investment to date.

[@DealerD8vE]

And he now has a 51% controlling share. However, the company is losing money.

[@sharkb8754]

@@DealerD8vE How do u know its losing money?

[@DealerD8vE]

@@darkmagicians5074 were is your brain?

[@UnordinaryCarl]

@@DealerD8vE where* whoms't his brain idocracy 2040

[@Kristoffceyssens]

@@UnordinaryCarl In 2040 brains became irrelevant about 30 years ago.

[@akshatjain8505]

Peter always waits for the fools to throw away the offers and then comes in with a bang! No wonder he is richer than the rest of the lot.

[@0megaSapphire]

Um, Duncan is richer than Peter...

[@AbhishekSanyalTGV]

​@@0megaSapphire At the time of filming, yes. Duncan was richer. But right now, Peter Jones is a billionaire and richer than all his fellow dragons combined. The second richest dragon to be on the show was Tej Lalvani. Duncan wasn't close.

[@blendcollopeku123]

What the hell did I just witness?!!!!! This guy was the best entrepreneur I saw in the Den so far!

[@93deadpool]

Simon was unnecessarily rude towards this man.

[@LBPreviews]

I think it's possible Simon might be homophobic. His hostility was very uncharacteristic

[@LBPreviews]

@Richard Kelbe Are you saying it's not possible he's homophobic?

[@caitlinlindsay8418]

How was Simon being rude?? He’s just asking questions....

[@pippipster6767]

Agree. The more he answered his questions the more worked up he got. That’s unlike him.

[@simongill4715]

And not his target reader

[@rory_russell]

Got to hand it to the guy he’s not a quitter and it’s people like him that win.

[@francissaunders4050]

Isn't it hysterical that Simon asked everyone "have you heard of V magazine?" And then describes people as "fools." I don't know what to laugh at more, Simon's ignorance or his sideburns

[@GeoGuy388]

Simon was such a tool. Good thing he was done after season 1.

[@erepsekahs]

Try his money, and then compare it with yours.

[@ginolandrot2729]

From a 2016 article "Huw Gwyther is the Editorial Director and founder of not one, but three of arguably fashion’s hottest titles: Wonderland, Rollacoaster and Man About Town. Since appearing on Dragon’s Den in 2005 and securing Dragon Peter Jones as an investor, Gwyther has continued to deliver on his magazine dream and is now considered a leading figure in publishing…"

[@Ryanjoned163]

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[@toKRN]

@@Ryanjoned163 most people do care

[@santoshvelpula663]

If they Invested the same amount in Apple stock today that would be worth $575,000,000 . Yeah half a billion

[@gregarmstrong6077]

@@Ryanjoned163 How can you watch a whole segment from season 1 and not care about what happened afterwards?

[@Trillock-hy1cf]

So I wonder how many people here have actually bought one of these posh magazines? Or perhaps picked one up in a waiting rook somewhere to browse whilst being bored?

[@zoeyelh]

wonderland magazine is a success, last year featuring kim kardashian on the cover. peter jones is still a shareholder

[@sbaxter4207]

What has kim kardashian done?

[@Clavinovaman]

Kim who?

[@skyo78]

Lol.

[@zoeyelh]

she's going to take over when we're not looking. apparently.

[@santoshvelpula663]

If they Invested the same amount in Apple stock today that would be worth $575,000,000 . Yeah half a billion

[@blakegriggs2423]

stlll up and running! same slogan " challenge inform and entertain"

[@santoshvelpula663]

If they Invested the same amount in Apple stock today that would be worth $575,000,000 . Yeah half a billion

[@Mogamishu]

@@santoshvelpula663 reported as spam. You have now spammed the same reply over 20 times.

[@CharlieEdward25]

@@Mogamishu what a nob end lol

[@pawesomiak9113]

Did you mean the "Wonderland" magazine or the show ? ;) Just joking around ;)

[@CharlieEdward25]

Who actually reads mags now thoe

[@shawnmcdoge2215]

I thought it was Ryan from the Office at first.....

[@Binyamin1444]

Wuufph.com

[@seamusmcspud5181]

I thought it was the lead guitarist from Limp Bizkit🤣

[@crossxfuse]

he's a spitting image of David Giuntoli (Nick Burkhardt from Grimm)

[@ellenkarlsson9490]

Ryan from the Office would read Wonderland

[@SuperJutah]

Ryan started the fire

[@vader745]

Peter showed here why he's the best dragon hands down!

[@karlosjeffers4791]

So in conclusion Simon Woodroofe declared Peter Jones “a fool” 🤣

[@DevonDandy]

The difference might be their relative wealth and business track record, Peter also knows that publishing is high risk, the point being that if he likes the concept he can afford to take that risk.

[@viniciusfranca2305]

@Bartosz Bartoszewski After how many years? Peter gained a lot more than he invested. You know nothing about business

[@aliasad2143]

@Bartosz Bartoszewski false!

[@DevonDandy]

Peter Jones negotiating options , thought up on the hoof here, were quite brilliant, no wonder he is so successful.

[@anishj8935]

i agree but also quite greedy

[@pauldenino6350]

one of the best videos for negotiations. great business acumen from both investor and PJ

[@perrysaker1526]

Peters ego is why he is so successful

[@AlanHope2013]

The guiy said his wallpaper partner would need to get 5-10%, Peter suggests throwing her a 2% bone and the guy is like, ok then.

[@pippipster6767]

Not so sure about that. Very nearly lost it. Pretty greedy as well (as usual.) Would’ve been safer and more reasonable just to say 35%. The mistake the magazine guy made was going straight to the top. You don’t negotiate like that.

[@aebimomi]

My hat off to Peter Jones. He is a businessman to the core and truly knows what he's doing and knows when he's hit a diamond in the rough. Very brilliant, very intelligent and with an unusual insight. It's no surprise he is so successful.

[@Pwecko]

Except the company doesn't seem to have made a profit yet. So, not that successful. An investment in property or shares in Apple, Google or other blue chip shares would have returned more.

[@prabalvasudev6967]

@@Pwecko this investment might not have done Peter any favours but he just became a Billionaire. He knows where to invest. Respect.

[@AbhishekSanyalTGV]

@@prabalvasudev6967 Peter Jones is not a billionaire.

[@AbhishekSanyalTGV]

Ok no ..you were right. He is a billionaire

[@kennethpaulsen5407]

@@AbhishekSanyalTGV he is a billionaire

[@sirrazma238]

Douglas Richard: "The models in this magazine are too old for my liking. I'm out."

[@10wanderer]

There are some 12 years olds on the sticky back pages

[@santoshvelpula663]

If they Invested the same amount in Apple stock today that would be worth $575,000,000 . Yeah half a billion

[@barneyclifton6402]

He was never convicted...

[@johna3863]

@@santoshvelpula663 Nice :)....I can do this all day...

[@Mogamishu]

@@santoshvelpula663 how many times are you going to spam the same comment?

[@moosesnWoop]

This dude probably was one of the last publishers to pitch for a viable investment in print media - by 2010 Digital media definitely overtook print. They seem to have an online magazine as well, dude seemed to have the chutzpah to get it done; which is probably what Peter was attracted to more than the print media itself.

[@santoshvelpula663]

If they Invested the same amount in Apple stock today that would be worth $575,000,000 . Yeah half a billion

[@AC-13]

@@santoshvelpula663 lol 🤣 ya never give up on it. Use ya noggin 🧠

[@theonasmith953]

​@@AC-13 ❤😅

[@imnotmattdamon]

I think sometimes as an investor, you need to realise no matter how saturated a market is, when the right kind of determined guy comes along, he will be able to cut a very profitable piece out of it. Even though the other dragon's arguments were valid, i feel Peter Jones recognised this. He was investing in the person, moreso than in the brand. Great clip!

[@dopemusic6414]

Very good observation, I totally agree. A lot of times the idea is secondary to the person in front of it.

[@santoshvelpula663]

If they Invested the same amount in Apple stock today that would be worth $575,000,000 . Yeah half a billion

[@yane499]

I've watched for hours and hours all shark tanks and now dragon den's..can't tell you how much value I get from peter's visions...I believe he's the best of all of them

[@kpm25]

@@santoshvelpula663 If they Invested the same amount in Apple stock today that would be worth $575,000,000 . Yeah half a billion If they Invested the same amount in Apple stock today that would be worth $575,000,000 . Yeah half a billion If they Invested the same amount in Apple stock today that would be worth $575,000,000 . Yeah half a billion

[@willhalls5451]

I feel like Peter wanted the brand name the moment the entrepreneur said wonderland it got his attention and if peter can negotiate 10% more it will legally be his

[@elastronaute1198]

This magazine is one of the biggest successes ever in dragons den. By the companies valuation this year (£220 million), assuming he's not been bought out which he probably has, Peter Jones's stake would now be worth £88 million for his £175,000 investment. (508.2x)

[@tamikagreen1119]

I didn't think any dragon would invest in something like this. It wasn't even set up, it was a concept.

[@umxidkaz831]

but it became successful af

[@caitlinlindsay8418]

He made millions so doubt that’s accurate x

[@andreflavell2689]

Peter Jones is a true businessman unlike the others that can’t see quality when it’s front of them .

[@darthyoda8170]

Ye,he cashed in,especially on reggae reggae sauce

[@Kristoffceyssens]

@@darthyoda8170 reggae reagge sauce was great. That man realy deserves to be succesfull in my opinion.

[@Gramercy_Stiffs]

Unless there was more to this pitch off camera Peter must have a sixth sense for these things. Huw was just a dapper gent with a dream who couldn't even give a proper answer about his first editorial idea. I would have passed on it too.

[@Andrei-Marian]

The guy reminded me of Tom Ford in the way he presented his vision. Only Peter and Rachel saw the value in the person in front of them, but Peter had the money and balls to take the risk.

[@irmalair1]

Some of Wonderland's covers: camilla cabello selena gomez robert pattinson emma watson margot robbie shawn mendez lana del rey taylor swift nick jonas katy perry

[@moeed6211]

Wonderland networth till date is 34million £

[@darthyoda8170]

Btw,the pound sign is before the number

[@waflwiro]

Sounds right phonetically tho, if not grammatically

[@cekojuna6930]

Peter really gave good advice to the entrepreneur, while maintaining his equity.

[@KJ_2020]

and screwing over what is likely the real talent of the organisation

[@AC-13]

@@KJ_2020 share incentives will provide further motivation. Get a grip !

[@kunalsamant]

What a classy guy.

[@machouston6448]

This particular programme / episode was absolutely Brilliant

[@GuerraMatos]

This magazine is an absolute success. Nice one Peter

[@davideinzani909]

This guy was seriously impressive.Deserves all the success in the world......Perfect pitch.

[@paulosullivan3472]

I really have no idea why anyone buys magazines like this but the success of wonderland clearly shows there are many who do.

[@m77ast]

I see what Duncan is saying though - he said I would determine the A-lister as opposed to my team I love the guys command of the English language. It’s a beauty listening to a writer / publisher.

[@moosesnWoop]

I eat lunch according to a Dragons Den upload. If there's no episode, lunch is well delayed.

[@malcolmfraser2066]

just finished lunch myself.

[@ciaranmcgrath7425]

Me too 😭

[@philipoates5446]

moosesnWoop123 me too

[@santoshvelpula663]

If they Invested the same amount in Apple stock today that would be worth $575,000,000 . Yeah half a billion

[@Mogamishu]

@@santoshvelpula663 reported as spam.

[@razz0rric106]

What an insightful & polite bloke

[@ahabbellamy8098]

Rachel was biting her lips and the look she gave him when she approached him to shake his hand

[@leewinspear126]

It’s nice to see the quality of pens and note pads have moved up the more series that are made.

[@thomasfinn3344]

It turns over 43,000,000 dollars. How embarrassing for Simon and the others.

[@Lowkeyyshorts]

the dude probably feeling like tHe fOoL now 😂

[@DrQuak]

To be fair to Rachel Elnaugh, she thought he would do it, but it was just too high risk for her, and considering her company hit the wall not long after she shot the second series (the year after this was shot), she probably couldn't go in for a high risk venture.

[@santoshvelpula663]

If they Invested the same amount in Apple stock today that would be worth $575,000,000 . Yeah half a billion

[@hida3279]

@@santoshvelpula663 are you sure ?

[@johna3863]

@@santoshvelpula663 NIce:)

[@keegs1163]

He was easily the most eloquent and intelligent businessman I've seen on dragons den. I'm so surprised more people didn't jump on this, especially considering all he needs is PR and Dragons Den is exactly that.

[@nanda_8]

I think Peter can smell future multi millionaires

[@jaynishah2928]

I didn’t realise Jen Barber from the I.T Crowd was a dragon.

[@ryanpeck3760]

Thankyou! I was trying to work out who she looked like! 😅

[@Z_A0099]

6:58 when Jenny says she would've invested but now she's out

[@zoeyelh]

why give it away in the title?

[@jnicholls21]

Brings in the clicks.

[@santoshvelpula663]

If they Invested the same amount in Apple stock today that would be worth $575,000,000 . Yeah half a billion

[@simonrichards150]

What, too soon? Should have watched it 15 years ago!

[@suzannah1947]

‘Tis like Columbo, you wanna know how he did it 😹😹

[@Mogamishu]

@@santoshvelpula663 how many times are you going to spam with the same reply?

[@butchershoppequartet8690]

I've just fallen in love with Peter's brain.

[@Waldo-Manfred]

funny how at the end everyone shook his hand. never seen it in any other deal. they just knew he was gonna be a success

[@mickm6309]

They often all get up to congratulate them.

[@kittymaher9395]

Great guy, very investable ,

[@dilatedbeholder3865]

Why was Simon Woodruffe still writing after he was out 😆

[@prateeksuresh9758]

‘I’m not going to be the 4th fool and I’m not going to invest in your business’ either way, you became a fool by refusing this investment

[@prateeksuresh9758]

CC Look, I don’t mean to diss the guy, of course he’s a millionaire, I’m not arguing on that, it’s just that in that pitch, instead of telling him, “this is a hard space to get into, it doesn’t seem a right investment for me” or something along those lines, like the other dragons said, he chose to straight up diss the company and him * in a way* and his tone did come off as a bit insulting and rude, that’s all I wanted to point out. He barely gave the entrepreneur a chance

[@SadGirl2001]

CC you missed the point of what he’s saying..

[@prateeksuresh9758]

Mela Thank you for getting it, I mean it just a joke, I’m not serious calm down CC

[@NOYBZ]

@CC my uncle is 4 times more richer than him and to this day he's still a dam fool, he could've invested in a company that made him a billionaire but didn't because he's stubborn

[@russcoight1586]

@@NOYBZ I just don't think Simon had any interest in the show at all, which explains why he never made many offers and only gained one successful investment, which never went through anyway and he left after the first season

[@genyagalak9407]

Well Done Peter,,, hope everything works out well. And Wonderland Magazine will be successful 🤓🎉

[@fosfeen]

Wow, Ryan moves to the UK and pivots from paper to magazines.

[@criktun3346]

What a great guy, v intelligent to take peters offer

[@pippipster6767]

Yes and no. Terrible negotiation skills. You don’t negotiate by immediately going right to the very top of what you would give away. He should’ve negotiated much more cleverly and I’m pretty sure it would’ve ended up at 35%. But he shot him self in the foot right from the start on the percentage.

[@aliasad2143]

@@pippipster6767 His company is worth more than 200 million

[@weloveannanetrebko]

Aaaand now Wonderland is worth £43m. Best investment yet

[@DealerD8vE]

According to their last available accounts the company posted an operating loss of £145k with tangible/intangible assets of

[@DealerD8vE]

@@martinsheridan7804 Which one are you?!

[@DealerD8vE]

@@martinsheridan7804 LOL!

[@dopemusic6414]

Wow Peter is absolutely sharp, and I think Rachel fancied him lol.

[@whoasked7192]

@Harry Smith I think he meant she fancied the guy pitching the idea

[@kimwexler9393]

@Harry Smith Calm down Harry. He's not going to sleep with you, you know.

[@kimwexler9393]

@Harry Smith Yes, really.

[@kimwexler9393]

@Harry Smith Hahahahaha

[@KJ_2020]

Peter fancied him too with that look at the beginning when the guy gave him the magazine

[@shamanicrevolution2204]

Fantastic pitch

[@tomqelectronica]

peter went in hard and made that an astonishing deal

[@greatergoodfijithegreaterg6272]

Net assets £220 Million in 2022. The publication garners an annual revenue of $43 million. That's hot

[@sl11tenderhand]

Peter Jones is a literal giant

[@viankahihatz7015]

How is no one talking about his jawline

[@boxingmonthly]

??

[@davidevans3175]

One of the best names for a magazine ever.

[@JL-gf3yc]

Doug was just sad there were no children in the magazine

[@jimmycrackers3358]

just come here for my break from gordon Ramsay and top gear

[@briangerard2145]

A stylish version of Sheldon Cooper

[@craigpardy6204]

Peter "I'll take the car, house and shirt off your back" Jones..

[@orietbardot1534]

Great stuff, well done Peter, great options you put before this young and oh so capable man. Looking forward to see this magazine on the shelves.

[@colourfulsouls]

I believe this episode was from 2005, so it’s been out for quite some time. However, yes they were great options and worked out well for them✌🏼

[@misterbonzoid5623]

So you haven't seen it in 15 years?

[@courtney-ol9jx]

Top Ten best Pitches,in DRAGON'S DEN History!!!!

[@readmycomment3157]

This guy has total self belief, but not delusional.

[@classicartfoundation639]

I love watching Dragons Den whilst sitting on the bog curling out a huge monster for the U bend lol

[@reidwarren6587]

You are gross. Here’s hoping I never ever see another comment from you. Don’t bother here btw, I won’t be back

[@evilmeerkat007]

12:40 nice handshake

[@adityapathak6648]

It seems to me that Rachel was thirsty for this guy.

[@gangatalishis]

Can you blame her?

[@harris_khan123]

well her eyes describes all

[@markcampbell1644]

Lol. yes saw it too.

[@brianvincent655]

I got that impression too. I'm thirsty for Rachel but noticed with sadness her wedding ring!

[@FretfulBadass]

🤭

[@ShoppingwithRina]

I love this show

[@jimstevens1487]

Does anyone know if Doug Richard has invested in anything??.What is he there for.

[@caitlinx3816]

By far the most successful investment Peter has ever made 😮

[@daniel-vn4ql]

I got a bit of a shock when i googled the magazine. and realized it was still going today. I assumed it would be long finished.

[@Onbat123]

He’ll go far

[@richardbrennan7288]

Wow... I just saw how much of a success this magazine is and was... the company is worth around 220 mill...

[@scarlettsvazki5067]

Good !

[@zhejiangzelda5309]

The guy is so smart and inspirational with his negotiations and presentations.

[@Brickcellent]

_"It's shite. I'm oot"_ -Duncan Bannatyne (probably)

[@pippipster6767]

I don’t like you. I don’t like the product. I don’t get it. I don’t get you. In fact I hate you. I’m out.

[@rejuvenatingsoul3498]

*Dunkin banner time

[@McRazzler]

Good lad

[@palizpovansl3541]

Good Pick.

[@adelezierler1547]

It'll be very interesting of the outcome of this magazine, and i wish both Peter Johns nd the young entrepreneur of the best of luck. Peter Jones has of course all the best connections on can imagine. I certainly will cross my fingers.

[@adelezierler1547]

I usually don't pay attention to the date when the videos are made. Well. I am so glad about the success u have had. . You were very convincing, & Peter Jones recognized that, so did I. Thanks' for your responds. I do like watching the dragons den

[@behabtwa]

@@adelezierler1547 this was unexpectedly funny. thnks for the laugh.

[@stanime3065]

"Your going to do something no-one has done before" So if it's unique it's too risky and if it's been done before it's too saturated! Can't go right can ya

[@ainsleyharriott2209]

He smashed the pitch

[@Mike_litoris_0]

I worked in westdale print and we had the contract to print the books..wonderland is very big

[@konza02]

that jawline tho, dayum

[@boneyarsebogman]

That was such an incredible renegotiation on the part of Peter Jones. Reducing the girls % stake, but offering her share incentives may actually mean she earns so much more potentially, so it really became a win win situation, seemingly in the matter of a few moments. Extraordinary!

[@santoshvelpula663]

If they Invested the same amount in Apple stock today that would be worth $575,000,000 . Yeah half a billion

[@Mogamishu]

@@santoshvelpula663 you missed the previous comment. Forgot to add your spammy reply. What happened?

[@woody41165]

@@santoshvelpula663 Yeah we know, you have already spammed this comment section. Stop repeating the same old boring comment over and over again.

[@AC-13]

@@woody41165 sounds like he enjoys blowing his trumpet 🎺 Maybe he's an Apple investor doing his best to promote, in so assist the Apple share price to increase 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@chanchito4401]

He reminds me of a Batman villain

[@JeremiahEcks777]

Which one? 🤔

[@lunarmystic9896]

The Smoucher

[@chanchito4401]

@@JeremiahEcks777 The Penguin from Gotham

[@TheGearsofwar2010]

He actually looks a little like Cillian Murphy from Batman Begins

[@chanchito4401]

@@TheGearsofwar2010 Damn you're right!

[@tonyhartnett3376]

Well, Woodruff knows who the fool is now, doesn't he?

[@russcoight1586]

I just don't think Simon had any interest in the show at all, which explains why he never made many offers and only gained one investment, which never went through anyway and he left after the first season

[@Beth1300]

Oh well, don't need to watch it since the result is in the description.

[@cefflello861]

Dragon ; What would you do if you don't raise the £175.000 Huw : I will raise the £175.000 ! Took him 5 minutes to prove most of them wrong. 2023 Wonderland net worth £220 million.

[@GenDSta]

forgot what the pitch was but hope this channel will upload the episode where all 5 of the dragons invested on one product

[@marty34534]

The movie market is saturated. Why do you want to make a movie?

[@evilspeak4015]

"Hello dragon's, my names Poshy McPrivatelyEducated".

[@Brickcellent]

Chip on your shoulder much?

[@proudindian2030]

They have 1 million followers on instagram. Seems to be a success

[@BigWes95]

Simon woodroffes sideburns disturb me

[@akhilshaji7302]

Glad this is part of peter Jones' net worth

[@jasperrowell4470]

Hugh famously a good name for magazines

[@scottw8737]

this guy looks like a vampire

[@Marlondurran]

Brilliant LoL 😆 couldn't agree more.. excellent observation..

[@robthornton6288]

Serious question: Has Doug Richard invested in any business during his time in Dragon's Den?

[@russcoight1586]

it's been a long time since I've watched the earlier series, and although i think he's made offers, I really don't think he's been successful in obtaining investment (but I could be wrong);, but then again, he wasn't on the show for long anyway.

[@5tyyu]

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