THE BIGGEST MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT GOTHS!

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The 4 Biggest Misconceptions About Goths:
➼ Goths are depressed / sad
➼ The "Hot Goth Girlfriend"
➼ Goth for attention
➼ How goths should look
Thank you so much for watching! ♥

[@Lethargo]

Due to the fact that every subculture is music-based, how about the misconception that you have to listen to ONLY goth music and nothing else?

[@JayneGoth]

That's a good one! Of course, being goth doesn't mean that you're only allowed to listen to 1 music genre. I might mention this in a new misconceptions video!

[@Skywohka]

@@JayneGoth Goth Paul McCartney fan

[@poppyaddams6467]

I have a lot of favorite bands. For example, The Cure, Type O Negative (seen them both live!), but my all time favorite band I can listen to every minute of every hour is The Doors 🙂

[@JordanS-ww4eu]

@@JayneGothyou’re very pretty and nice I really like you and would love to be friends with you

[@slurpydurp7242]

It’s okay to want to date someone that’s mentally ill but it’s not okay to fetishise them. If you want to date them either way that’s good but it’s weird if it’s your type because you think she’ll be your manic pixie dream girl

[@JayneGoth]

Yeah, that's exactly my point. Of course, it is okay to fall for someone who has a mental disorder (I should have mentioned this in the video now that I think about it). The fetishization and wrong expectations are the problem.

[@slurpydurp7242]

@@JayneGoth Yeah. That’s very fucked up when people fetishise mentally ill women and think they’ll get the Harley Quinn experience or some shit

[@JayneGoth]

@@slurpydurp7242 LMAO yeah.. and then they're disappointed when they realise what mental illness actually means :/

[@szynkers]

While I understand your argument partially, I have a problem with the broad reasoning. People are attracted to other people for reasons. To choose a partner is a discriminatory process. It's supposed to be, and it has to be by it's very nature. And what you describe as "fetishizing" is not technically, actually a fetish. Nobody will be attracted to you for no reason, or only for the reasons you choose to project. If it's "weird" for someone to be attracted, i.e. to a girl on the autism spectrum, then there is no partner for that girl. It's that simple. Would you prefer for a neurodivergent person to be with someone who hates their features and struggles through them, rather than fully enjoying the presence of that person? What is wrong is dishonest, predatory and inconsiderate partners. I get it that there are lots of incels out there, who would simply like to find an attractive girl who is also "damaged" like them; and they project their fantasies onto that person. You should be careful with them. But I wouldn't be so quick about judging what's OK to be attracted to, and what isn't. I am NOT attracted to "manic pixie dream girl", but here's the thing: they exist. Do their boyfriends look like pedos? Sure, but what you gonna do xD

[@wyattbranham4919]

Ive always fancied getting a goth gf because I have a lot of dark interests and obscure interests that I think a goth would stereotypically be into as well. You know, cryptids, crime dramas, dark fantasy novels etc. I also like deep conversation, and most goths i remember from my younger years were very introspective and self aware people.

[@JayneGoth]

I think that’s a pretty good reason to want a goth gf! As I said in the video, if it’s about interests, that’s totally cool ❤️ although I bet some non-goth females are into those things as well!

[@peterdanklage6286]

I can understand this, I started understanding goth subculture through Type O Negative, while I do love the goth subculture I have to say I’m a metalhead originally. But the more I grew to love Type O (my favorite band) I started developing an appreciation for goth elements. I don’t even say that I primarily want a goth girlfriend, but rather a girlfriend that can love Type O as much as I do. If she’s goth, cool, if she’s not, also cool.

[@shadowrage2593]

The biggest problem in my opinion is "goth felishization" by the mainstream media and streamers. What I hate the most is that they exploit people's "real" preference. The integrity is getting lost and its even harder to tell if the person "really" likes it or because it's "trendy". Personally I like being in the company of goth girls, doesn't mean I'm obessed with having a goth gf. Many guys like goth girls but we don't know if its their real taste or because media told them its cool to like goth girls.

[@Pipes-1985]

Really well said, total respect for your honesty & calmness in talking about it! As long as you’re happy within yourself then that’s all that matters! Be who you want, dress how you want, express yourself however you want! We’re all meant to be different. 😊🤪🤘

[@JayneGoth]

Exactly! ♥

[@JL-ef7bh]

Not sure how stumbled across this video but it’s an interesting one for sure! The misconceptions about goths are so bad, that I was once called a “corpo goth” just because I wear black. When being a goth is actually way more than just wearing black or liking black things.

[@julians9070]

Ther is nothing wrong to be a "Corpo Goth". I hope you mean Corp Goth. A Goth that wears fashion that blends into the conservative workplace. When I went out on Interpreter assignments, I called the attire a combination of Corp Goth and Latter Day Saints.

[@JL-ef7bh]

@@julians9070 there’s is nothing wrong with being a corpo goth but what I don’t get is people call me a corpo goth when I’m definitely not one.

[@julians9070]

@@JL-ef7bh You know who you are and what you like to be . Those people who call you Corpo Goth, which you are not, don't want to have any idea on what Goth is and don't want to apply their critical thinking skills to get an idea of who you are and what you represent or like to represent. Sadly we have a world with too many people that don't want to be skilled at getting to know an individual better.

[@stefanmilicevic5322]

Agreed. I think that being Goth makes one very visible, which often attracts impolite attention, which isn't optimal. Also, you look stunning. I especially love the eye makeup you did. I think it looks pretty cool.

[@JayneGoth]

Aww thanks!

[@stefanmilicevic5322]

@@JayneGoth You are welcome!

[@LouciferFlump]

I’ll be 50 this year. In my youth (and quite recently too) I’ve had quite normal bouts of reactive depression due to tragic life events. In those times, it’s exactly when I can’t be bothered to “goth up” with the makeup and accessories. A depressed person couldn’t be bothered to throw all the effort I’ve put into looking pretty freaky over the last 30+ years! 🤣👻😳 I have only mainstream friends and they’d tell you I’m the life and soul of the party…and pretty loud. Some people will always judge Goths negatively, and I’m glad, I don’t ever want to confirm to their boring normalcy, however old I get. Stay strange, stay you, stuff what other people think, their opinions mean nothing. 🖤🕸️🕷️🦇🖤🕸️🕷️🦇🌹 P.S. This judgemental thing that “you’re not Goth unless…” type stuff is a new thing to me, as an ElderGoth. It seems to just be online elitist/purest people hung up on the wrong things. A good Goth doesn’t judge others on their clothes, music choices etc. Baby bats doing this, please stop, you’re acting like a puritanical mainstream Dad figure, waggling those judgey fingers and you may as well trade in your New Rocks for a pipe and slippers…🙄👎🏻

[@JayneGoth]

Yes, thank you for this comment! It’s so nice to hear these things from elder goths ❤️

[@LouciferFlump]

@@JayneGoth🖤

[@Donn02]

I've heard these misconceptions alot of times and its cool to hear finally somebody speak about it :) love the vids as always

[@julians9070]

Well spoken Jayne. I hope many young people will listen to you and delve much deeper in the Goth Subculture. I appreciate your accent. I agree that the best partner when you have common interests. As male I prefer to be in company of man who appreciate Goth and topic I would like to discuss about. The way you have explain is excellent.

[@shadowcop75]

I've never been happier than when I was deep into the the subculture. It was in the 90s and I lived in London. We went to clubs every weekend and we went to the certain goth friendly pubs as well. Being goth was so fun! Everyday has to be Halloween! Also the music us cool.

[@JayneGoth]

That sounds so fun! I don’t really have any goth clubs or even goth people nearby, unfortunately. Still, my goth time has been the best time of my life! 😊

[@reggiepoison]

It's really helpful to listen to people like you talking about the freedom to wear clothes we like coz as a "babybat"(beginner goth) I feel like I'm obliged to dress goth all the time and hearing ur opinion helps to be more chill about my appearance. I'm the person who genuinely loves dressing in a dark and morbid style, am into skulls a ton expectedly, but I also love my cute corgie blouse and some other cute stuff I own, I do also fancy my colourful checked shirts (even tho I heard them being called basic, I almost don't see people wearing these shirts in my town). So far being goth seems cool to me though coz after having been goth mentally for all my life without knowing it (and even after hearing that I seem like a naturally gothic person) this subculture finally gives me feeling of belonging and fitting in. Fun fact lol: as for negative attention, even despite the fact I live in quite a small town of a conservative country and did dress gothic even before considering myself one, I received compliments on my pentagram necklace more often than on other stuff I wore. Quite unexpected but welcomed.

[@JayneGoth]

I'm glad to hear you're feeling more comfortable dressing the way you want! You can totally wear colourful clothes and still be goth. It's more about the mindset and the music and less about the way you look. Even though dressing dark is really fun, you shouldn't feel forced to do so in order to "be more goth". Goth is about freedom of expression, so you should just dress in a way that makes you feel the most like yourself :) ♥

[@reggiepoison]

@@JayneGoth Oh, thank u for ur response, I really appreciate that🖤🖤🖤 Keep making wholesome and inspiring content !!

[@LouciferFlump]

I’m a really “old bat”. It’s impractical, impossible and exhausting to be fully Goth’d Up all the time. You have the right idea that being Goth is a state of mind. I was a weirdo into dark things as a child, just coincidentally as the original Goth scene actually came into fruition, but as a child, I wasn’t even aware of it. I used to put black boot polish on my lips and walk around with a disembodied doll’s head. My Mum, who wasn’t a “Goth” coz it didn’t even exist as a subculture in her youth, thought the way I freaked people out was hilarious. As a teenager, someone said to me “oh you’re a Goth” and I genuinely had to look into it coz I didn’t know it was a thing! So what I’m saying is, basically, it *is* a state of mind rather than a state of dress 🖤

[@MiyaMeniceX3]

I'm not goth (I'm scene) but my dad didn't want me to dress that way for attention.

[@therian56406]

wow thank you for this i am goth too and all these misconceptions that you have put in there place is awsome thank you

[@dimmiehoogendoorn5593]

You explain these misconceptions really well! 🦇

[@JayneGoth]

thank you! ♥

[@julians9070]

Well spoken Jayne. I hope many young people will listen to you and delve much deeper in the Goth Subculture. I appreciate your accent. I agree that the best partner when you have common interests. As male I prefer to be in company of man who appreciate Goth and topic I would like to discuss about. The way you have explained is excellent. Dunk u wel.

[@JayneGoth]

Thank you so much! That is very nice to hear :)

[@julians9070]

@@JayneGoth If you like reading Gothic literature, even from the Nederlands, you may produce a video on this topic in future, if you like.

[@JayneGoth]

@@julians9070 That is a nice idea, I will think about that! I am a huge fan of (gothic) literature

[@julians9070]

@@JayneGoth This is encouraging. People can really learn to appreciate Gothic literature.

[@julians9070]

Before any person speaks badly about the Goth Subculture or the music, let them research deeper and perhaps they might like it a lot, and love it a lot.

[@AS_I_am25]

My aunt was really worried and gave me a lecture about how we don’t want people to get the wrong idea and we should dress modestly because I decided to buy black sparkly lipstick. Wore nothing else but the lip stick and this was apparently wrong and immodest. Now I go full goth and if people think badly of me, that’s their fault. It’s for me, not them.

[@JayneGoth]

Well spoken! 🖤

[@AS_I_am25]

@@JayneGoth thank you! I just found your channel! I love it!

[@JayneGoth]

Aww thank you, welcome to the channel! 🖤

[@user-xu9pe2vh4u]

Jayne I ever judge goth people I had a friend was goth he was a cool dude.

[@leesimmons5453]

Your remark that all women are scary cracked me up. Thanks for admiting it. But I want to argue- the characters you showed at the beginning are mostly upbeat positive characters. ( Exceptions: SheGo never seemed all that Goth and Raven's problems came from being the daughter of a demon.)

[@WillowSage3]

My ex said my goth music was depressing. I'm all like no it's not and I was having an identity crisis and he started copying that as if he was mocking me and wouldn't even be himself he had to copy my Hippie Goth way of life.

[@THE_TRACKMAN]

Not into goth stuff but, this is cool channel

[@kiratheelf772]

if someone wants a goth gf i tend to take it halfheartedly, but it just completely depends on the reason. If its mainly because you're attracted to the aesthetic, i cant blame you, best of luck, as long as you dont date them exclusively for that reason. especially since, as you said, we dont "look" goth more often than not lol if its because you think they're kinky or a mentally damaged thing you can fix, you may unkindly fuck off. thats really weird. if its because they like macabre things and dark music and you want somebody to relate to, more power to you!

[@JayneGoth]

Yess this exactly!

[@oligultonn]

I have to say that I got a Goth GF when I was 17 and honestly it was more of a style for her, she did not act like a stereotypical Goth. Been 5 years now and I do not regret a minute of our time together ❤. Also: 𐌰𐌹𐌽𐌰𐌷𐌰 𐍃𐌿𐌽𐌾𐌰 𐌲𐌿𐍄𐌰𐌽𐍃 𐌼𐌰𐌲 𐌸𐌰𐌽𐌰 𐍆𐍂𐌰𐌸𐌾𐌰

[@greekvampy3690]

The goth gril friend could be blamed on the modern day repulican feminest this gose for both man &women

[@greekvampy3690]

Also gender role society is also a big player there is a lot of u tub vidos on it

[@oligultonn]

@@greekvampy3690 my biggest question is why do so many goth girls have bigger then average boobs. My girlfriends friends who are into goth stuff have noticably bigger boobs than your average woman.

[@ckblackwoodmusic]

Thank you for this; I've seen goths from all walks of life

[@JayneGoth]

♥♥

[@loganblackwood2922]

Blackwoods unite

[@ckblackwoodmusic]

@@loganblackwood2922 Verily, brother

[@greekvampy3690]

Ive seen a lot of emos & skaters become goth even wicaens

[@ckblackwoodmusic]

@@loganblackwood2922 Verily, brother

[@solvecoagula3413]

A misconception I've heard from more than just 1 person: "your style doesnt match your personality- you are actually a nice person" 🙈

[@JayneGoth]

Hahaha I get this one a lot too!

[@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396]

Have you seen the movie Betty Blue?

[@JayneGoth]

No, never seen it

[@XUtionerx]

bro my goth friend wears a grey jacket with a white flower on it!!!

[@sablewharton1854]

The fetishization and external misconceptions of the culture are unfortunate.

[@haley166]

Going to send this to every man who tries to ask me out

[@loganblackwood2922]

Are you from Ohio?

[@kristinakovalenko4007]

How do you feel going without makeup?

[@JayneGoth]

I like doing my makeup for videos, however I usually do not really wear makeup so I feel fine going without any 😊

[@kristinakovalenko4007]

@@JayneGoth I always feel insecure not wearing makeup tbh haha. It just feels like u never see bare faces out there.

[@JayneGoth]

@@kristinakovalenko4007 True! I struggle a lot with insecurity too, but tbh my makeup skills are so bad that my face looks better without, LMAO. Anyway yeah never compare yourself to others, you have to remember that every face you see on the internet is pretty much fake (makeup, good lighting, angles), and try to realise that other people never judge you as much as you judge yourself! You're beautiful, no matter what! :)

[@kristinakovalenko4007]

@@JayneGoth Yeahh thx I needed to hear that!

[@garygruenberg7846]

Witch Craft ? What about that ? Are you total Kalan Mikla fan like me except I'm not into that stuff lol

[@JayneGoth]

Witchcraft is indeed also a very common misconception, people often think all goths are witches. I am personally into witchcraft, but not every goth is! I will definitely mention this in a new video about goth misconceptions :)

[@Gabriel-Crandall]

Do you know a character named Evil Ernie?

[@JayneGoth]

Never heard of it!

[@Gabriel-Crandall]

@@JayneGoth Evil Ernie is a character from a comic studio called Chaos! Comics. It was defunct in the 2000s but then another comic book studio called dynamite entertainment had bought it and made it into an imprint(ps dynamite entertainment is best known for creating The Boys which will lead up to the show)

[@JayneGoth]

@@Gabriel-Crandall Oh cool! I've watched The Boys and I did enjoy that

[@hokuto8152]

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