The Blue door: the controversial TMNT 2014 leaked script - TMNT History

[@TheTurtleNexus]

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[@KasumiKenshirou]

Why did Michael Bay announce that the Turtles were going to be aliens when it was clearly meant to be a surprising reveal in that version of the script? And even in the final movie, Eric Sachs was going to be The Shredder, and Oroku Saki was only added via last minute reshoots. So Shredder being non-Japanese was there almost until the movie was released.

[@TheTurtleNexus]

I don't think Michael Bay knew the franchise well, and he was just repeating a pitch. Since the event was for affiliates of the network, he was probably trying to make sure that removing "teenage" and "mutant" was a better deal for them. Or at least, that's what I am guessing.

[@ENiceGeo]

You know what? This story concept is a whole lot better than what they horribly recycled it into. Yes, them being from Dimension X would be a sore spot, but it was handled fine for this reimagining. The story bits about Casey's life and April's circumstances added some heart that I think was missing in the movie that actually came to be.

[@armageddonmma8907]

The parts about Casey and Aprils lives were the only good parts of the script

[@ninjafoxgamesgeekery]

I actually tried my hand at a script rewrite of this I called "The Green Door" - My self imposed restriction were that only the dialogue and plot elements could be changed, no full rewrites to the entire plot or fully altering the script. Biggest changes I recall off the top of my head: Changed the turtles back to mutants at the right height, altered the bullet proof element to bullet resistant shells (could deflect a few, but not a great idea to just take 'em). I adjusted Colonel Schrader to be Tragg, eventually revealing him to be a rock soldier from Dimension X instead of a quasi-Shredder. I added an ending scene that set up the awareness of the Foot Clan operating in New York. I'm not saying it was gold, considering what it was polishing in the first place, but at least an online TMNT fan forum gave me feedback that it was a vast improvement and at least sounded enjoyably watchable.

[@incognitofool6516]

Better than the original screenplay for sure

[@tannerprice2018]

Colonel Schrader as Tragg would honestly make more sense than Shredder. Maybe save Shredder for the sequel? Like, do the Sci-fi thing first, then lean more into the ninja side in the second one? Like what Mutant Mayhem is doing?

[@nivaldowesley666]

hey, let me know if you want to turn it into a full comicbook! i wold like to join! 👀

[@ghddoesstuff]

I would also change the black headbands to red as a reference to the original comics

[@johncaulfield8935]

Is it available to read?

[@KryyssTV]

I'll never understand why so many writers and directors despise the idea of sticking to the source material. Yes, the premise for the TMNT reads like a 1980s sci-fi B-movie with ninjas, interdimentional aliens, mutants, and more recently kung-fu magic, but the franchise thrives on being an unpredictable and extremely colourful universe. Sure it doesn't take itself too seriously but the characters and their interpersonal relationships have always been very grounded and sometimes that aspect becomes very dark so you need the contrast provided by the setting to avoid the audience suffering emotional burn out or feeling like the narrative is just another family drama.

[@Tortaviejo123-cb8me]

Yeah, just look at the recent bombing of the Borderlands movie compared to the success of Deadpool & Wolverine. If movie directors and executives learned that the IP they're adapting doesn't need to be "fixed" than the fans would award them with numerous piles of cash.

[@KryyssTV]

@@Tortaviejo123-cb8me In defense of Hollywood, video game adaptions are currently going through the same growing pains that comic book adaptions did during the early 2000s. For every Toby Maguire's Spiderman and Wesley Snipe's Blade there was a handful of Fantasic Fours and Ghost Riders. Likewise we've had some good adaptions like Sonic and Fallout but it took over 20 years for the movie industry to consistantly get comic book movies right so don't expect good video game adaptions to be commonplace until 2045. Maybe we'll get a good Cyberpunk 2077 movie actually in 2077 :)

[@Tortaviejo123-cb8me]

@@KryyssTV Good point. But the fact that most hollywood executives seem to hate the source material from video games, it's going to be years before we get to the MCU phase of video game adaptations.

[@RusPitman]

That’s Hollywood. Pay for name recognition and then make it different enough so they don’t have to pay the original creators as much. Then when it becomes a franchise they’ll own the rights to this new version.

[@Tortaviejo123-cb8me]

@@RusPitman Exactly. The fact Hollywood kept changing significant aspects of comic book films for years even when the MCU was at its peak, shows how inept the entire industry is.

[@tannerprice2018]

The premise behind the Blue Door is definitely interesting. I doubt it would be appreciated by fans, considering how it was thrown out for a more basic TMNT movie. But it certainly would’ve been an interesting reimagining of the Turtles, Shredder, Dimension X, etc.

[@josephroberts1266]

Fans can't handle anything different anymore It's a shame.

[@RusPitman]

Would be nice if IDW could do a tales of TMNT mini series or something.

[@amin2636]

4:28 Really genius of you to do this I never saw any other youtuber do that

[@madisonlynn2419]

I’ve always wanted to learn more about the full history of what The Blue Door’s concept originally was!!! Thank you for such an interesting video!! ❤❤

[@brenthill2656]

I think the setup and characters used in this script is overall more interesting than what we got! However, it does stray a bit too far and doesn’t seem to give the turtles enough development. I still don’t think it’s bad, just not quite Turtles enough.

[@otaking3582]

That "It's just the ooze that's of alien origin" was obvious backpedaling. Bay clearly said that the Turtles themselves were aliens.

[@stefanbesendorfer1323]

I have to admit, for an alternate storyline it maybe could've been a good movie.

[@codemonkeyattack]

The older I've gotten I've always tried to look at adapations in a more positive way and not just force everything to be 1 - 1 to the source material. As such I've actually had thoughts that this script had potential but just needed work. Some elements could really work, such as parts of the alien plots, young Casey/April, the return to NY, and even the whole nature issues. For me I would make the back story go something like Shredder is an evil Utrom Warlord and Dimension X is where their dying home world is. 15 years ago Shredder created a gateway to Earth to exploit a new planet for resources such as conducting experiments on humans/animals and eventually terraforming the world to start a new Utrom Empire. In this timeline the news reports several people from the New York area going missing every couple of nights and one such person is a genetics research professor named Hamato Yoshi (also martial artist, I mean it is a comic movie so why not?) who was forced to work on the animal/human super solider experiments for Shredder. Several of the test subjects were local Purple Dragon thugs Bebop and Rocksteady who were merged with a warthog and rhino. But while recalibrating the machine a New York rat got in the system and forever turned Hamato into a rat-human hybrid. Realizing the human hybrids still retain too much of their human memories and desires, Shredder demands they create a mutagen that can work from the opposite side turning animals into human-hybrids instead, that way they have a blank slate to work with. Four turtles are chosen for the first experiment and it is a great success. Realizing how bad this is Splinter runs away with the formula and Turtles in tow to go into hiding. He teaches them all he knows about martial arts, this also could explain why Donnie is so smart as his father was a literal professor, and the other Turtles just weren't interested in the extra knowledge. Then add in the Casey /April / Return to New York / Nature moments from the Blue Door script but I would axe all the alien Turtles stuff and actually end with the Turtles defeating Shredder in Dimension X. But now they're a long way from home so it sets up a sequel where they need to find their way home and you start drawing from the Fugitoid arcs and even the Triceratons could have been involved. A third movie could have been them finally getting back home but learning that Krang was Shredder's second in command has conquered Earth, introduce Bishop, and you would end with the world accepting that aliens exist and that the Turtles just happen to be the "aliens" that saved the world so they become accepted in society similar to Mirage V4.

[@matthew2734]

Sounds good

[@noodle3384]

Eastman likes everything as long as he gets a cut

[@Urmumlel7025]

I hate how Bay keeps making Casey Jones into a cop.

[@SherAli123go]

Michael Bay never directed nor produced the second movie (Out of shadows). He was involved in 2014 movie. Do some research

[@Maxwel_Rodrigues]

@@SherAli123goWhat are you talking about? He's still the producer of the second movie. I believe you should do more research

[@grungehippy]

This didn't sound too bad until a prophecy came in. Lame, lazy, overused plot device.

[@keizercas6051]

bringing Micheal bay in because the script was too edgy is like saying, no you can't fight a fire by throwing wood on it, before pouring a gallon of gasoline on there

[@mysterycupofjoe2670]

The script sounded very generic. The prophecy thing feels very over done.

[@gechoman44iwantahippo]

To be honest, the plot didn’t sound that bad until they entered Dimension X.

[@tyronleung5276]

Colonel schrader, bulletproof carapaces/ plastron shells whats with turning casey jones and april into sam witwiki or makala barnes ?

[@litterboxstudios]

The actual Bay movies were bad anyway, but it will always be amazing to me that fear of irate fans forced them to go (mostly) back to formula, and even after they shot the thing they had to clumsily rework the movie once they realized the “Eric Sacks” Shredder would be equally hated. That is a lot of time and energy spent fighting against the entire prior success of the franchise.

[@HerbCoswellBornAgain]

As an original film, I think it could've been fine, but as a Ninja Turtles movie? Yeah, no.

[@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore]

Nah. Either way it’s lazy as hell. Do we really need yet another: there’s a prophecy that these hero’s will rise and so they are hidden away blah blah blah

[@Hirowastaken]

Honestly, i don't mind that script. Maybe some tweaks here and there but overall i like the idea that the turtles are these legendary warriors from another universe while also living in the sewers of nyc oblivious to how important they actually are. I like how the story builds up to them discovering they are a part of a prophecy and all of that.

[@DaxtotheMax479]

I actually like this more than the 2014 movie. Like the ending of having the turtles take the orbs as far away from each other after building up this brother dynamic throughout only to split apart for the first time in their lives. I could see the sequel being that they all went to Dimension X but one and set up a psuedo Last Ronin type storyline where it reflects that single parent energy with the trainees, this time being teenagers. All in all lot of the characters had good introductions but didn't live up in the end.

[@erikwebber6038]

I would watch this as a one-off 'animated' elseworlds-type film, kind of like what DC does with their direct-to-dvd animated films. I know that would never happen though.

[@PregnantAdamSandler]

It took me way too long to realize Schrader was supposed to be Shredder

[@Daheat86]

I would rather see what they would have done with that concept. It might have been a good movie. U can see where the movie did a lot of cut and paste. Did not like Ninja Turtles 2014 👎🏽

[@tyronleung5276]

It was a copy paste of transformers

[@allanbezerra-omoreno4085]

I honestly engaged everything in the script except when it said "prophecy". I laughed at it. But seriously, this is a fascinating and authentic reimagination of the turtles, I would actually watch this.

[@eman2863]

15:26 AI is shit but holy crap this one is just wow. He has a foot for a hand for pete's sake.

[@TheTurtleNexus]

Could be a foot, but could also be a hand if you look at it closely... just not a ninja turtle hand.

[@wolfielee11]

I think there are elements to the "alien race of turtloids from Dimension X destined to defeat Krang" that can work in a TMNT story without killing what makes it TMNT. It could almost have been an aspect of the sequel even. Keep the first film familiar, the brothers and Splinter are mutated regular animals raised in the sewer fighting the Foot Clan either via Splinter being Hamato Yoshi (or his pet I guess) or switch it up and modernize Hamato to being a TGRI employee maybe or a Foot Clan member who defects. Then when they start introducing Krang and Dimension X you reveal that there is a species of alien turtloids and some prophesy of theirs stating 4 heroes would defeat Krang. The brothers aren't aliens, gives Krang that much more reason to hate them and wanna destroy them cus of their similarity to the turtloids, and you can kinda mirror some of the alien fun from the original comics and cartoon like the Triceratons lol.

[@tyronleung5276]

The inclusion of bebop and rocksteady was already overstuffed and the alien plot wasnt needed and the prophecy mcguffin was lazy

[@oneeyedrob]

Regardless 2014 poisons the well. Terrible film that still plays like transformers. Why do ninjas need to be bulletproof monsters? Shredder is just Megatron.

[@benmalsky9834]

I think the 2014 film is okay. It’s not great or anything but it’s not terrible either.

[@benmalsky9834]

Dude, they are TURTLES! I think it makes sense that they are bulletproof because of their hard shells.

[@oneeyedrob]

@@benmalsky9834 it’s not great, but it is terrible

[@benmalsky9834]

@@oneeyedrob It’s my opinion. Respect it please.

[@benmalsky9834]

@@oneeyedrob I refuse to call it “terrible”.

[@sethstrattan7380]

I would rather watch the 2014 movie that we got than this version I just sawz

[@tacksgmvs2070]

If only we knew about this script while the movie was releasing. This sounds awesome.

[@TwilightZoneMusic03]

I hone wish this is the movie we got. I was excited for a weird take on the TMNT

[@johnpittsii7524]

Thanks for the amazing video ❤

[@mr.bayless]

This version sounded really good until the crew crossed through the portal and were told they were warriors of prophecy. I like the concept that Dimension X is this concurrent reality competing with us but the boys being warriors sent away and the ooze story was a cover is just very jarring. Rise of the TMNT did a great job of altering the origin to do something new while still making it feel not different for different's sake.

[@tyronleung5276]

The blue door was trash i wish we got a mirage comics continuity movie

[@sayonarakid]

This sounds very bad. Don't know if as bad as the michael bay ones. But bad anyway

[@allenturnbull9540]

Seriously it would have been a lot better than what we got. At least it would have been on bell a spectacle. Even the 2014 movie was chopped to hell because they changed the Shredder from Eric Sachs to a random guy.

[@pawlee77]

So they took some of the ideas from Bucky O'hare and Warriors of Virtue?

[@M567dk]

Both the actual movie we got and this script just shows that Michael bay was never right for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

[@tyronleung5276]

I see where the two bay films rewroked the shitty blue door, caseys a police instead of a rentacop, the turtles get kidnapped, the tecnodrome plot bebop and rocksteady etc

[@huyphan7825]

"Paramount thought the script was too edgy." Which is why they brought in Michael Bay's crew. A team well known for not being edgy. LEFT CHEEK

[@erickdelgado3014]

Man, this was honestly not bad!! I thought it wouldve been horrible!! But its kind of cool

[@peterquinones2169]

I now consider every version of any comic characters aside from the original to be else world So this version could of been awesome

[@thatoneguythatexists4189]

Leaving a comment for the algorithm.

[@SherAli123go]

We like the idea of this script as it has some cons but this should've made the screens but I guess fans are to be blamed. They're trapped in a nostalgic hole.

[@MRxDEMOK]

They're scary.

[@Rell80]

There are parts of it that I don't hate, but ultimately I agree that there's an interesting original story in there, not a TMNT story.

[@shadowspartan1184]

I like the idea of Carey being the mean character. But That it.

[@awiedhuman159]

Im acturlly thinking about makeing an anime adobtation of this movie, though I won't change mutch of the firts half/third of the movie, since I think it has some potential. Im gonna make my own third act, and edidt the part about being alien... (Since thats what really makes the movie a mess in my eyes)

[@m.g.trazor417]

They retconed to close to the sun for the average reptile.

[@alanwide4364]

Not every comic book needs to be made in a movie ..

[@BAKED_PRUNES]

Ngl its actually better than the 2 bay turtles that released 💀💀 i dont mind the brothers being alien in origin

[@kylemulkey9659]

The movies sucked but this concept sounds equally as dumb.

[@Vash45Long]

What form did Beebop and Rocksteady have in this script

[@TheTurtleNexus]

Their usual (you could easily picture them as they showed up in the sequel).

[@Vash45Long]

@@TheTurtleNexus yes but would they start off as soilders before being mutated

[@TheTurtleNexus]

@@Vash45Long No, they were aliens.

[@davidbrowne5969]

It's sad how the cartoon tmnt is better than the tmnt live action movies from the 2000s

[@RusPitman]

Honestly, get rid of the alien turtles and the destiny nonsense and it wouldn’t be too bad.

[@jayfonz5765]

I'd watch it

[@mamunestor]

Don’t like Shredder as an alien…

[@greygremlin1248]

Once again the fans got shafted

[@Oliver-Candle]

Megan Fox and Character designer killed this movie

[@RealCoolGuy]

Man! This is SO much better than what we actually got! Stupid fans getting angry at one little detail ("aliens"). Movie would've been garbage either way, but at least this had some inventiveness

[@arcangellopez2712]

This movie could have been sooooo good if they weren't aliens

[@thevioletskull8158]

Is there any info on the "too edgy script" before Paramount bought the TMNT? Edit: Why use Ai? Couldnt you have hired a artist or something?

[@LUMBEEPHENOM2012]

You idiot artist aren’t free

[@TheTurtleNexus]

I looked at prices (for sketches like the ones in this video), but it was just too out of budget already. The money from KZbin helps me cover the narration costs (but it doesn't actually cover them). And it doesn't really pay for my research, writing, software licenses, and video editing at all. So I didn't have much of a choice for the time that I had to release this video. Ideally for the future I could buy a wacom and maybe do some doodles myself But they are also not cheap. At least, not around here.

[@braydonlangford485]

Can you recommend an artist that would fit within their budget range? If not stfu

[@thefancysquid671]

idk i kinda liked blue door

[@charlesman8722]

… wat

[@neshaunblaine]

…so how do they explain why Splinter is a man sized rat? Do rats and turtles live in harmony on X.. why did Splinter not get a wife to go to earth to help raise the kids.. why not send a turtle as they clearly would’ve shown that turtles grow up to raise a new turtle protege.. why send the prophetic children with no mentorship to magically get raised by a rat. This would’ve got picked to shreds by watchers

[@carterblake3410]

i like this scrpite but i love the 2014 movie we got

[@sustelsuk]

Also thanks for the warning about ai image, so I won’t be surprise about this horrible art .

[@lucasgibbs4050]

Maybe one day the Ninja Turtles will be aliens… in a film that’s actually good.

[@tyronleung5276]

Hell no

[@ankhale1033]

It alreay happened just search “our friend power five.”

[@darientellez73]

It’s Teenage MUTANT Ninja Turtles… NOT TEENAGE *ALIEN* NINJA TURTLES!!!

[@matttriano]

Terrible nonsense

[@teruienages962]

Please don't ever use AI art again.

[@TheTurtleNexus]

What would you have done instead?

[@theriseoflordmasterstarscr9036]

If you don't like it go watch someone else let him cook

[@davidbrowne5969]

Both are not good