The BMW R12 continues to impress (& the problem with bike launches) | VLOG

[@michaelnielsen2096]

STOP TALKING,- you talk way to mutch,- and you say nothing at all, lets enjoy the sound of the bike, instead of your annoing voice !

[@timrodierides]

And I bet you add so much value to this world, angry internet man 😂

[@clemfandango9534]

That’s what he does. Most of us watch this channel because of the banter.

[@NiallDempsey-jp7fl]

Yes I concur I'm finding myself watching more n more of his reviews just to enjoy his banter! 😊

[@georgearcher5696]

I like your rambling on and your right I'd prefer honesty warts and all

[@trailrunnermike]

I’m here for rambling nonsense!

[@CLLUK]

Thanks. Nice opening shot from Box Hill.

[@claqyagami6914]

Ryan from F9 made basically the same points you did about why they don't do press launches and only accept sponsorships from non motorcycle based companies. But I would counter that a first ride is just that, which is why viewers should make their conclusions from the video the reviewer will do about long term "ownership" of the bike. And watch multiple channels about a specific bike you are interested in.

[@timrodierides]

Absolutely agree! I don't have all the answers. In fact, I rarely have any

[@davidbarton7463]

Top tip of the day :- one solution to the absence of a fuel gauge might be to weigh the fuel tank when it is full then later when it is empty, Assuming 1 Lt of petrol is about 1Kg you can estimate with reasonable accuracy the amount of fuel present in any tank. Hope this helps.

[@AsphaltKobold]

I've seen this cool bike on the IMOT in Munich and was absolutely impressed! This is what i want! I wonder why BMW didn't make the Cruiser available to the testers, but only the R 12 Nine T. You are the first to have made two really good driving reports and it remains the same: This is what i want! 🤩

[@timrodierides]

Thanks! I’ve just put up a comparison with the R12 and R12NineT as well

[@latem1400]

Possible to put normal mirrors on it? Hate these bar end mirrors...

[@mattmutane5502]

Tim, your comments about "bike reviews" and "influencers" are SPOT ON and indeed annoy the crap out of me! Keep up the good work, with actual useful info like what a bike is actually LIKE to ride! ;) :) :D

[@BasiliusVasilj]

I ordered this bike for myself. Only the wheels are spoked and gold. I hope I don't regret it

[@PerryvanBeek]

I have the same, black bike with spoked, gold wheels… love it

[@davidb5552]

Lovin the new "Father Rodie's sermon" slot towards the end of the vid. I'd be more inclined to tell someone who sees themselves an influencer to flock off, or leave them to it. However, if there is a complimentary BMW hoodie going spare at the event later in the week (medium and grey please). You know I love the upcoming review, it's my absolute favourite! Great vid as always Tim. 🙂

[@BrookyGSA]

You should run with the "Old man shouts at..." channel idea, imagine the content you could knock out with that, it wouldn't even need to bike or car related (but start with that as its your thing) I'd watch it 😁

[@timrodierides]

Haha that’s essentially what my car and bike channel are 😂 I like to think I’m pretty progressive but my views on journalism aren’t 😂

[@Spain-Homes]

Fuel gage? What for? Stop, shake the bike and listen to the petrol sloshing in the tank 😎

[@SouthWest-jj8yu]

It’s a nice looking bike Tim and love that engine. I have a 2011 anniversary edition GS with that engine first GS. Liked it so much after a life on sports bikes and heavy tourers that I have kept hold of it.

[@tonydare7614]

I test rode one in Paris and contrary to all the rave reviews I felt underwhelmed. It looks beautiful, but I found the sound a bit muted, admittedly not taking it high in the rev range as it was brand new and mainly city riding. I did love the light feel but I didn't find it smooth or that exciting. I should add that I'd just stepped off my Livewire One, which is much quicker and smoother than ICEs. The clutch was also unbelievably stiff and bit far too far out (no doubt an easy adjustment). I've owned a GS1250 and found it better in every way other than looks.

[@timrodierides]

Fair enough! For me it's about the 50-80mph punch (erm, 80-130kmh I think). But understandable, it isn't that loud (no new bikes are), and the Livewire is punchy as hell.

[@tonydare7614]

@@timrodierides yes, my test conditions and comparison are not really that useful. I was just expecting more after the GS. I'll have to go for another spin outside the city!

[@Brettmotorcycles]

As I approach 50 debating trading in my 2023 xsr 900 for this beauty... love the relaxed style as I get older

[@stevellewellyn7192]

Keep shouting at the cloud Tim. Very entertaining. 👍

[@timrodierides]

Thank you!

[@BN1960]

Nice video, thoroughly agree with the YoungTuber thing (and some of the OlderTubers too for that matter) It kinda weirdly reminds me a bit of the 1150 Rockster

[@BJ900RS]

How come my old lawn mower has a fuel gauge and this brand new £17k machine doesn’t? Still want it

[@SickBikeDude]

God, pick a lane bmw….is it retro or not? They have plenty of modern bikes with TFTs…give it twin dials as standard.

[@guymathew1520]

'Last tour before Dignitas' 😆 You're right about the influence of nice hotels, gifts etc. In a previous life I did some print media car reviews in Dubai and the publisher got really shitty with me for actually reviewing the cars including the negatives. Positive comments to back up the advertising was all that was required. I didn't last long...

[@timrodierides]

I’ve been lucky to never work anywhere where the advertising side affected editorial… and most editorial teams I’ve worked for defender their independence pretty fiercely, at least for car reviews.

[@twist_of_the_wrist]

Ive never been on or invited to a press launch, but ill happily say that is a nice looking bike. 😂

[@danielZR]

I’m curious about the lean angle of the R12 🤔 Hope to see some data about that in your full review if it’s not too much to ask? 🥴

[@timrodierides]

I'll do my best in the next couple of days - I'll have an R12 vs R12NineT comparison video from some sunny roads...

[@danielZR]

@@timrodierides Looking forward to it sir 👌

[@BaronVonGrumble]

Here for the £50 voucher

[@timrodierides]

I’ll let you sniff the seat in exchange for a 44T hoodie x

[@murdocampbell4858]

When I look at it, I can’t stop thinking “Royal Enfield”. Like you, I love the engine….but this one, IMO, is a styling disaster. Oops 😬

[@112oxford]

I don’t know if it’s the camera, but that TFT looks like it’s changing colours constantly?

[@timrodierides]

It's just the GoPro. It's the only bike I've had do it! It doesn't do it in real life you'll be pleased to hear :D

[@astralnut6313]

My K1200R blew up two ABS units even though we did all the recommended service. Has reliability gotten any better than that?

[@Stevieboy130664]

Whoopee - it doesn't have gold forks! Shite - it has gold handlebars!

[@timrodierides]

The bling will get you one way or another

[@DontPanicDear]

Haha drinking Pride vs Prime are kind of opposite ends of the alive spectrum 😂

[@paulbrook2459]

Aways entertaining 👍 toad in the hole (Yorkshire pudding with sausage) always with mash ,veg and gravy 😊Also in your opinion what bike is best for our wet and potholed shitty roads ?

[@timrodierides]

Depends what you want to do on our wet, potholed and shitty roads! Can't go too far wrong with... a GS. Sorry. Or a KTM 1290 SAS. I've just tested a Tenere 700 which was great on our roads, but is really more off-road focused...

[@AdamRowan-Lovell]

I thought the toad in the hole didnt involve gorillas? It was meetkats?! Anyway, looking forward to your full review on this. 🙏🏻

[@Banditmanuk]

Not a personal criticism but, how can anyone take any of these launch reviews seriously. Even 'serious' journalists are influenced by the invite, the hotels the occasion, and of course the risk of not being invited again. Seeing the same press bikes handed around to KZbin influencers to make gushing reviews (all of them more interested in gaining subs & subscribers and getting their add revenue) I can also remember a 'serious' journalist saying great things about the Garner era Norton V4SS, a bike subsequently found to be riddled with faults and not safe to ride. The KZbin reviews that I like most are the ones made by the owners themselves. Give me a good motorcycle adventure/trek/holiday to watch any day. End of cynical moan by boring old minor KZbinr who never gets offered press bikes 😅

[@jacobneuburger1559]

British humor feels like it originated in the Middle Ages and never died out.

[@timrodierides]

😂😂 mine originated when I was 5 and never changed

[@cliveomahoney4096]

Like the plague and turnips

[@johngreen3510]

British humour is the best in the world, also Australian. We can have amazing dialogue with people from other countries & they’d never know they’d had the crap ripped out of them 😂😂😂😂

[@GabrielGalo]

Is very Nice see someone just doing what like. Its a beutifull bike, but this Color cobination I thinking is strange

[@alechopkins6545]

I'm no journalist but going on about free goodies definitely makes a review not feel genuine. Or i'm just cynical lol The R12 does sound good

[@timrodierides]

Cynical is the best way!

[@ejd8711]

Beautiful bike, but somebody in Munich had a little too much hefeweizen when they called this the R 12 nineT. Absolutely ridiculous name.

[@FoxtrotOscar9]

Great vlog, you had me at "pop one" and "arse crack". That says more about me than you. Sub gained!

[@aritradas7154]

ok i paused tbe video at 5.10 to come here and ask... did he really say no fuel gauge?

[@timrodierides]

Yup!

[@jackalster77]

Finished a very extensive test ride. Pro: 1. Engine, tons of power and especially torque. Does NOT feel like 95 HP, more like 120-125. 2. Brakes incredibly strong, very confidence inspiring. 3. Build quality 4. Cruise control works beautifully, easy to engage / operate 5. For someone around 5,9ft 175 cm this is very comfortable for long distance. Also nice low seat. 6. 719 finish looks great. 7. Digital display is crystal clear and very bright so amazing visibility. 7. Tech laden CONS: 1. KEYLESS allows you to switch the bike on and off but not lock/unlock the steering, meaning you still need to take out the key regardless. Absolutely retarded. Unless I have not figured it out somehow.. 2. No fuel gauge. Mind boggling 3. Quick shifter feels BAD in the first 2 gears. Very jerky changes. 4. Tyres grippy but could have been a little better. 5. Rear shock is hard with very little travel, so only a little better than a triumph bobber or Indian scout bobber.

[@robertyork4041]

Good rant old man 😉 Definitely want to watch objective reviews of the bike/s and not how great the lunch was.

[@shadowdove3250]

Has a dry clutch which is a bit odd for that style of bike.

[@Me.ImCounting]

The dash seems to be flashing red a lot - what's that all about?

[@timrodierides]

GoPro shenanigans, it doesn't do that in real life

[@Me.ImCounting]

Thought it had to be something like that. Yours is not the only vid I'd seen this on.@@timrodierides Cheers

[@dd-yg3cx]

hi, is it better over the bumps than a Harley sportster . and does it have a aluminium tank.

[@timrodierides]

It's a steel tank

[@basweir8164]

Any chance you could talk about the bike you are riding at the moment not the one next week

[@timrodierides]

Go and watch the video I put up before this one, I go into more detail on the R12. Any chance you could sound less entitled in your comment? 🤣

[@basweir8164]

​@@timrodieridesI did watch the first one and not much detail in that one as well. This is the first road test of the r12 and you had a real opportunity to tell everyone about a great new bike. You are a journalist as you stated

[@timrodierides]

@@basweir8164 and as I stated, my full review will be along soon.

[@timrodierides]

@@basweir8164 in fact, let us know what you want to see in more detail in my full review and I’ll film it just for you x

[@SuperWellington1815]

Why has the R12 got a lower torque figure than the R12 9T ?

[@timrodierides]

I've seen a power/torque curve graph and they overlap exactly until 6000rpm, when the R12 just plateaus while the R12Ninet keeps going. I'll share that graph in my comparison video (coming soon!)

[@SuperWellington1815]

I wish they would do a cruiser like the R12 with a 1250 engine-the torque on that would be worth having 😊

[@cliveomahoney4096]

Only retired City, Buy, bye- bye merchants, turned hipsters, need apply. Beautiful bike, farcical price. Who on Earth will stump up that money to buy one of those things!?!?!

[@dodibenabba525]

Me

[@AuxesisHyperbole666]

Retiree with a lump sum.

[@AndyPat239]

yeah i agree..retro shouldn't mean hiking the price up

[@hgm8337]

is it not a bit boring?

[@timrodierides]

I don't think so really - it's got so much torque that unless you're riding through 80mph sweepers all day it feels interesting enough!

[@gerryryan2302]

I think manufacturers are caught between a rock and hard place …as they would love to get a younger generation interested in motorcycling ..when I was a kid motorbikes were as cool af (still are in my eyes) but are they to a younger generation ? And then are they more likely to be swayed by influencing or journalism ? journalism can come over as quite boring when reciting facts and figures .. Ryan f9 bucks that because of his personality . Mind you I’ve seen your alter ego influencing ..please stick to your present format

[@timrodierides]

Hahahaha, the beauty influencer has been put back in its box. It will probably only appear on Instagram when I've got something I desperately need to take the piss out of. But I agree. Car journalists are some of the most boring presenters out there...

[@mwng5186]

nice work...interesting thoughts...thanks...

[@splodge57]

Nice ride, nice nonsense but that bike does nothing for me even with £2000 of bling.

[@jumpingjflash]

Rank amatuer! Talking about how un-impartial other youTubers are.

[@timrodierides]

What’s your point?

[@frankmlchaelglasscock6539]

Just so over price end of for what it is no way 🤬🤬

[@tomriley_bike]

💤

[@cliveomahoney4096]

......let's wait and see about the journalistic objectivity stuff. I just watched 44 teef review of a Triumph. Every positive thing was extolled and was nonpareil. Every criticism was Marmited down to a " wot do you expect at this price...blah, blah", yawn-o-matic viewer response. Please do better...bet you don't!

[@wl660]

The 44Teeth review was perfectly fine. A bike has to be reviewed against the competition and price point. They did criticise the suspension being basic with no adjustment. Don’t forget your OFF button is available…

[@cliveomahoney4096]

@@wl660 Would that be the eff off button?

[@TheAhmetk]

bla bla bla just bla bla there is no information about motocycle

[@timrodierides]

Blah blah full review next week

[@Cartsp70]

It must have a fuel gauge somewhere in that tft Tim surely? That’s a bit strange tbh

[@timrodierides]

@@Cartsp70 negative!

[@s2beedoo]

If only he explained this in the opening 30 seconds of his video.....oh wait🤨

[@timrodierides]

@@s2beedoo there’s no helping some people