The Bodyweight Paradox

[@tripleextension88]

After having switched from endurance sports (triathlon) to olympic lifting two years ago, I've made the experience that social factors also play a huge role. I'm tall and lean and while I know that gaining weight is crucial for advancing in my lifting, I can really feel how the perspective of what is an ideal body type vastly differs between sports. People I know from my triathlon background now make comments about me "getting fat", while people I know from olympic lifting say that I am still way too slim for my height and that I'm hindering my progress. Besides the fact that this is a really uncomfortable social situation, I find it hilarious how some endurance athletes conceive even the slimmest strength athlete as "fat". It's all about what you're used to, I guess...

[@thegreatahgou6100]

Fuck the noise and keep going brah, you're gonna make it.💪

[@FighterMageCleric]

tbqh long distance runners don't have much they can do except bitch at someone who lifts weight.

[@marcJoel]

As a cardio head as a youngin then a skinny mixed martial artist and calisthenics fiend, now I'm a weight lifter, loving my progression.

[@geol5448]

regardless of what anyone says there is an objective healthy weight and that is between 12 and 18% bodyfat, ideally 15% . So if your goal is general health and not competitive sports you should keep that in mind. If you want to win championships then ok you can switch to whatever body composition the sport demands.

[@supersonicsteven163]

Just keep going braaah. Nobody else's opinion about you really matter

[@davidkymdell452]

I'll never forget when I got into personal training 20 somethign years ago. Had a young rower come in, wanted a weights program. After a couple of months, he came back and complained that his lats were getting bigger and why had I given him a program that was making him "bigger". I was speechless haha

[@DrAlchem01]

This kills me 😂 I'm just imagining someone (you) standing there mouth wide open while he complains about how he's getting better

[@andresromerocoz]

Yeah, some of us don't want to get bigger, just be stronger, more into the strength part than the bodybuilding one, obvioulsy the muscle mass is gonna increase to a degree, but for my part it would be cool to see how much stronger can I get and not change my weight that much? (You know, I like to be lean and lightweight)

[@darkxkai5754]

@@andresromerocoz the bioengineer has a good video on this i cant remember then name though

[@darkxkai5754]

@@andresromerocoz i think its smthn like eccentric exercises and time under load, the real strength comes from the tendons and they grow alot slower than muscles, thats why sometimes people get injuried when they lift weights that their muscles can handle but the tendons cant

[@davidkymdell452]

@@andresromerocoz I agree...to a degree. The problem is, you're never gonna escape newbie gains. The dude had never lifted weights before. Even if one did purely concentric strength and/or power based exercises, you're still going to gain some mass.

[@destine1547]

I love that the algorithm is pushing me this kind of content instead of the fitness lifestyle vlogging

[@TheUcHiHaMaD]

I just blast SARMS and peak every second week

[@TheUcHiHaMaD]

@Absalom you stalking me?

[@Mbstr1]

No it really isn't. Unless you are out doing hard drugs and partying every weekend and also getting drunk a lot trying to score chicks all the time, ofcourse!

[@MonkeyBarsEveryday]

@@TheUcHiHaMaD he's hiding in your shower because he wants to marry you

[@jimbojimson]

@@MonkeyBarsEveryday That's a good strategy

[@johnprager662]

holy based

[@freakied0550]

I'm currently on the backside of that inverted U (after about a decade). I uploaded bench press videos to youtube a long time ago, no clue powerlifting existed. Got introduced to it via other youtube uploaders, used my first meet as an objective to lose weight and hit a certain weight class (110/242). Went well but fell far more in love with the strength gains. Gigabulked for a while, hit some big numbers as a drug free lifter (775/550/705lbs SBD if counting gym lifts, 775/525/700 on the platform, 550lbs front squat, 350lbs strict OHP). All of those came as a 140/308, (also managed a 501.5/661lbs push/pull as a 125/275). Now I'm below the body weight of that first meet I did, far more lean mass and in way better condition, and likely done competing unless I see a shot to bench 500lbs as a 110/242, as I've done it in every class above.

[@andr1]

Massive flex

[@BO2Letsplay]

Those numbers are insane for a drug free lifter… damn bro

[@dudeshamus1451]

Good seeing Freakied in a Sika comment section. Your transformation has been legendary bro, not to mention your feats of strength!

[@dogcatdogable]

just got a horrible flashback to ur beef w alphadestiny

[@freakied0550]

@@dudeshamus1451 thank you and this channel is one of my favorites.

[@nischal711]

This happened to me I was around 132kg and now at 119. I hadn't done Olympic weightlifting for a while and when I went back instantly hit my previous full clean and jerk PR with very good technique and ease.

[@Yupppi]

Very thought provoking video, please don't mind the long text. Anecdotally, I thought I needed to eat in surplus (sort of did though, helped a lot in kickstarting the process of regular training and growing without losing recovery), then I realized I was starting to get a bit extra and I could already burn a lot of fat that wasn't too obvious because I didn't look fat by any means. I went to maintenance and burned fat but kept growing. Then realized I might benefit a bit from surplus just in recovering from new and bigger stimulus/recovery demands, but actually ended up slightly cutting when the activity went on a pause. But all that body recomposition through surplus, technical maintenance and slight cutting made me rather familiar with how much extra fat I actually had in the body, like where to look at to gauge where my body is, and helping my get a feel of where my recovery demands are and how to keep growing in muscle. I'm happy I tried surplus and then maintenance and slight cut, but in all truth maintenance all the time would've been very sufficient. Just needed some work to realize how much the maintenance actually was. For a beginner it might not be obvious because a lot of the time the calorie strategies are directed to advanced folks, and a beginner might not benefit from them meaningfully. Like a beginner who's in a normal body shape doesn't become fat looking from gaining extra, but eventually you'll also understand that besides just growing those muscles, your abs won't be visible because there's quite a lot of fat in between, and you never realized because you had small abs and enough fat to look normal. The maintenance calorie recomp seems to be really practical for a normal person who hasn't lifted for years already. As long as you're actually matching your maintenance, even if your activity levels change your maintenance level. Seeing your muscles grow in front of your eyes despite the weight scale pin not moving is a good lesson in paying attention to what your body composition really is. And it's helpful for body image too in my opinion - like seeing your core grow bigger and bigger but look better because your fat levels go down at the same time. That you don't have to be afraid of growing in size, it's the composition that is more responsible of how you look. The best thing about a sport like weightlifting is how your body image is tied to your performance more than it is to psychological shortcomings. I started training with weights with good intention to make my body healthier and return functionality, but it wasn't until weightlifting and judo that I dropped the idea of how I should look like something specific. And to underline this, it wasn't the media or someone else putting that pressure on the body image, it was my own demonds in my head telling me I should look like something or the other. Other people had never commented on my body negatively. The muscle training and bodyweight became tools for performance, not sources of stress and demands. I started being less pedantic about exact numbers and focused more on how the body felt like and what the performance and recovery were, adjusted things on the fly and ate more laid back. Having said this, I feel like athletes, especially female athletes, should always have a nutrition coach. Just today I read about a national big promise female athlete who was breaking records early, and who had gotten comments on media linking their looks to their performance and entered a cycle of bad eating habits which also impacted the performance. She had no idea and reference to how she should actually be eating based on measurable facts, she was just concerned on how her eating looked like compared to other people (who were not professional athletes and the height of tall male as female) and thinking about her looks and thinking that's related to the performance. And it also happened in the age where her body was going through natural changes where a girl becomes a woman. And despite it being an anecdotal story, it's been repeated so many times that it's shocking that athletes don't have nutrition coaches by default, especially young and female athletes. And a psychologist wouldn't hurt either. I'm surprised that she underperformed for years without her coach being alerted about it at all or going through all possibilities.

[@Alchemizingg]

Haha, this happened to me. 115 before training. Gradually made my way up to 150 at the peak of my powerlifting. Now 13 years in I sit at 130ish, about 20%bf. I had no idea this was so common but it makes sense. Great video!

[@Shadow.behind.mountains]

Can I ask how tall you are? I’m 5.6 and ~ 135

[@CrinsomYShen]

This would explain my past 7 years of lifting, and my current plan going forward. Over the past 7 years I've gained about 30kg, from 75 to 105kg. SBD have hit 200, 140, 240kg respectively. Have lost 5kg so far after starting the weight drop this year. Planning to lose at least another 5-10kg to about 90-95kg

[@heyitsmort7744]

Love your perspective and the general pace of this video! Thanks for the hard work :)

[@lucasvarley9764]

This is super informative! Question for you.. have you ever tried a meal plan from Next Level Diet? I got one and I love it!

[@prnoiawegf55]

An unusually comprehensive perspective. Thank you.

[@-TK-]

Im in the low 60s bodyweight and I'm torn between staying at 61 and having a very realistic chance of snatching a national record or gaining another 10 kilos and having much faster progress and more productive training.

[@xyzmediaandentertainment8313]

Stay lean. If your goal is to get the record it'll be ifnintley easier in that weight class, plus not to mention the longer term health benefits that come with being at a lower body weight.

[@fugazishoegazey648]

First part of this summed up my first 5 years in fitness: got in it to look better naked, quickly fell in love w getting strong and working on a powerlifting gym total, now weightlifting is scratching an athletic itch. Started at 175 lbs skinny fat now 175 pretty lean and struggling to get the weight up. Bodyweight/fat setpoint is a real thing. Currently focusing on getting decently proficient at current bw and squat #s at the lifts but then will for sure be looking to gain some weight and take eating seriously.

[@tylerkarlberg3473]

Appreciate the content. Been considering a weight class jump for a while now. Used to compete as an 89, walking around closer to 95. Still pretty light for my height (1.85) in the world of strength sport. Couldn't access a gym for a few months a couple years back...wonder why...and picked up cycling again for the first time since college (and like anyone who trains compulsively I went all in). 3 months later I was down 15k. Since getting back to weightlifting, my numbers have surpassed all my old numbers but I am still hanging out at 80-81. Not unhappy due to the numbers going up, but I did enjoy being a bit heavier

[@dogcatdogable]

It's so easy to justify weight gain to yourself when it comes in conjunction with strength gains. My fat ass falls for it every time.

[@FreshTopEnd]

So relatable. Don't know why it feels a little bittersweet at the end. Maybe because of another reminder that father time always wins.

[@Hetr0]

I'm 48 and just keep to the basics, 3x per week weights, Bench press and Overhead press, then another day Squats and Deadlifts, I also do several other movements, but it's generally leg day once per week, upper body 2 x per week. I also do kickboxing 4x per week about 6 hours worth and swim 2x per week 1 hour each session. Started out at 130kg 4 months ago, been 105kg for last 6 weeks. I eat well, plenty of food 90% clean, somedays I don't eat much other days I cannot stop eating, I just listen to my body. I'm happy to just eat while it's winter and train hard, while educating myself the best I can on technique improvement. See where I am early next year. I can see my body putting some muscle on and feel stronger, happy to be hitting 120kg x6 reps squat and 130kg dead lifts. For me mixing it up with weights, HIT kickboxing and swimming seems to give me good results, I'm getting folks telling me I have changed a lot and that feels good.

[@xyzmediaandentertainment8313]

Jeez bro. I don't even train half as hard and I'm 26. Maybe I should take up kickboxing or something like that too

[@FurledFingerdFool]

Just got a gym membership went once but haven’t gone cuz I have literally like no idea what to do.

[@joelocejo4493]

WOW great video. The opposite u curve described me exactly I started the Olympic lifts at 80kg with a 43kg snatch and 60kg clean and jerk I then gained weight to 104kg now my snatch is 97kg and clean and jerk is 129kg now I’m in a cut back down to 80kg. Thanks for the insight.

[@BigErnMcCrackin]

What good timing. I was just sitting in class thinking about how much weight I’ve gained in my first 5 weeks of RTA. Weeks 4 and 5 really have me spending a lot of time in the kitchen 😂

[@sikastrength]

😂😂😂😂

[@marledanimefan7186]

I dont really know where i fall into. All i know is doing cardio before my weight training doesnt reduce my gains !

[@dukenukem6369]

As a casual gym rat, this was incredibly informative! Thank you!

[@tractor7937]

I was shifting through strength sports for a few years after high-school football and gained a ton of muscle mass (living around 100kg). Talking about social factors catalyzing weight loss…all in sequence over a few months: my first girlfriend broke up with me, I was railing amphetamines during exams, and then went to Africa for a few weeks - went down to 80kg and insanely shredded - which opened me up to new types of training that suddenly felt more enjoyable such as mid-distance sprinting, boxing, more plyos and calisthenics, and kettlebell training.

[@tractor7937]

Ultimately through a series of on and off depressions my weight returned to a new maintenance of 105kg. I know that if I were to drop weight again I’d be shredded again.

[@TheBcoolGuy]

That's because bulking is the best way to put on the mass you need to fill our your frame, and to have the energy to lift those really big numbers and recover. Fat loss is much quicker than muscle gain. It's just the most efficient route.

[@AlexanderBlocker]

Nice video. I’m curious about your experiences with recomp after a lean bulk from working with intermediate to advanced strength athletes. Many folks (including some on the science-based side like RP) lean heavily towards bulking and cutting cycles as opposed to gain and recomp, especially for more advanced athletes. It seems like quite a few top competitors actually do gain and recomp when going up a weight class, though. Would be great to get your insights on this!

[@pninnan]

Love the snatches in what looked to be cargo jeans

[@jglg7238]

This video is not available? why can't i watch it?

[@whitneyleigh7463]

Dude says “guidelines” just like pirates of the Caribbean

[@evanc985]

Gaining weight is a crazy cheat code for lifting more, mass moves mass. I jumped up 10 pounds and my squat increased 50 pounds without even trying.

[@eugenepoon]

9:40 Eoin's unfridgified half brother?

[@justinwoods535]

I've gone from 114lb to 140lb so far. Abs are gone, but continuing to bulk because I want to be a lean 180lb. Plan to get to about 200lb in a few years then cut

[@winterycold]

Hey, I'm new to lifting. After being consistent with my training for around 6+ months I've now probably run out of my "newbie gains" and I'm finding it really hard to cope with that fact. I try really hard every single session to increase reps and weight slightly but it just feels like the process is so damn slow now that I don't feel like I'm progressing at all. Somehow I don't even feel like I lift at all. I've only recently been able to bench my own bodyweight (which a year ago would have not been something I could even dream about) so I've made some progress but I feel like it's not enough or even anything at all. I feel like shit basically and am on the verge of quitting again even though I don't want to because I don't want to waste any time at all. Whenever I'm at home and not lifting weights, especially on rest days I feel like I'm the same guy as I used to be and all my gains went away. If I'm not destroying my body and trying hard I feel bad but that sort of mindset isn't healthy and I need rest days. I'm also really struggling to eat more now because I was so used to eating less and now I just feel fat when I eat more. Hopefully I'll get over this soon. I literally did my Deadlift PR last week which was more than my body weight and somehow I'm crying right now thinking that I'm not good enough.

[@skinnysnorlax1876]

Your issue isn't your body. It's your mind. It seems to me that weight lifting, and particularly gaining muscle mass was tied to your self-consciousness on a very deep level. I can actually relate. When I first got into fitness, I mostly just did calisthenics with a buddy. I was terrified of gyms. We mostly did running and pushups. I was finally catching up to him in terms of how many pushups I could do, and mentioned as much with oride, and gratitude. He then let me know that he actually did a more difficult variation. I felt something in me shatter, and I couldn't really explain it at first. I thiught a lot on it, and realized that I felt I had finally "belonged" after so many years of not being taken seriously, and all of the sudden that feeling of belonging, accomplishment, pride, was all swept away. I still had the "training wheels" on. I told him how I felt, and was in tears. I had had a very rough time getting into fitness due to past experiences with bullying, and he understood. He had never meant it in a discouraging way, but understood if I wanted to stop. The decision I made then was to push through. Not for my body exactly, but for my soul. I needed to be strong internally as much as externally. Later I shifted more to weights, and it has suited me far, far better. However, I am planning to get back into running as I cut, clean up some of the muscle I packed on. You may also seek to change up your routine. But for the love of God, don't put a bandaid on what is clearly a deep wound. Assess why you feel this way, how lifting helped you, and why. It's wonderful you found relief in a great, productive pastime. But don't overdose on the painkillers, if ya know what I mean. Good luck man, sincerely

[@jacktait8487]

Not related to the video, but, when programming for clients how do you go about this from a logistics POV. So, for instance do you have multiple templates/skeletons of programmes that you use and then adapt per individual or do you start from scratch each time?

[@ancellery6430]

im 17, 6;6, and 250 lbs. Ive been lifting for 6 months, and can bench 250/squat 350. Should i continue bulking or cut? I dont have that much fat and can see my ribs and have slightly visible abs

[@7reasons617]

Keep bulking fam. U gon be a monster in 6-7 years.

[@Dadddio1]

I’d say for your age you can bulk to build a good base but don’t overdue it. Since your a bit younger you got some years before you really get into ur prime years of lifting. I have no clue how much mass you can healthily hold though man ur huge lmao

[@ancellery6430]

@@Dadddio1 yeah I have a pretty wide frame lol, if you saw me from a distance you’d think I’m 5’8

[@germanwolf9212]

Since I started weightlifting my bodyweight continously increased. I never had that 'lean out' phase and now I am at a very stable 110 kg bodyweight. I'm still getting stronger at the strength based lifts like press, bench, squat and push press but my baseline strength for snatch and clean and jerk seems to be decreasing. It is weird in a way because I used to be able to do many reps close to my max. I still get the occasional pr now but all the weights I used to rep without much issue feel so much harder now. I also don't feel like there is much room for me to gain weight given my height and frame.

[@BuJammy]

I've, unintentionally, lost 22 lbs in around 3 months (down from 232 to 210, at 5 foot 9). I've been eating about the same, and certainly "worse" in terms of food quality than I did previously (no anabolics, ever btw). I decided to give up strongman / highland games (the "heavy" events, at least) and closely tracking my weight. I went from training three times a week, very heavy, to training every single day light / medium and fast, (short rest periods), which is what - seemingly - has made the difference, assuming I don't have a tape-worm.

[@georgemartyn5268]

you in fact do have a tape worm. this is him, me - i'm your tape worm, messaging you on social media. you're welcome.

[@shelobarachne3027]

Hello Bu, medical student here. Since that is a pretty significant weight loss there, I‘d be cautious to any other symptoms you might be having (fatigue, fever, loss of appetite etc.) in order to rule out any underlying issues. If you stay at this weight and feel fine, it’s probably nothing and a result of lifestyle modification, otherwise I’d recommend seeing a medical professional. Good luck with training and have a nice day!

[@duncan7961]

Yeah I can see myself in this. Used exercise to help lose weight, enjoyed strength more, started getting fatter again. I'll try to get a grip on it before I have to buy new jeans. Always enjoy sika psychology btw, thanks

[@Limbaugh_]

I’ve been chilling around 175-180 for years lemme get to the top of the U curve 😩

[@J_Shingy53]

You can the the 'inverted u curve' the BELL curve. Just feels more intuitive

[@YoutubeCommenter1]

The term bell curve is usually only used when referring to normal distributions, so would not be good to use for this

[@J_Shingy53]

@@KZbinCommenter1 yeah thanks for pointing this out. In hindsight I'm talking about two different things. Wanted to put up suggestions for more fun names instead of 'inverse u progression' haha 😆 But surely better names exist: the progression hill? Maybe the strength-weight correlation? The lifter's hill?

[@rustyshackleford735]

I had no idea that jockeys had to weight in and have weights added to even things out, that's pretty crazy.

[@ConnoisseurOfExistence]

I've never been concerned about gaining weight due to exercise.

[@sammccauley9420]

Man when I started lifting heavy I gained so much weight I was around 80 kg at 16 now im 18 and im 110 kg on average

[@skinnystrong]

Your generalizations about gaining muscle mass reflect the prevailing attitude, and you miss an important point: one's "amateur sporting career" isn't the end-all, be-all for many of us. I have approached physical training the same way I approached learning to play the piano - it's a skill, I practice it, and I improve. I don't wish to transform my body in any substantial way, and I still weigh what I weighed when I graduated high school, but after beginning lifting in my late 40's, I continue to set PR's now, in my late 60's, and break records as well since there aren't many people still competing at M65-69, 67.5 kg. No doubt that I have added some muscle and lost some fat, but those changes are small.

[@tr1ckster726]

When you mention gaining muscle, are you discussing strength training vs hypertrophy training? As in, one should not do strength training before they have adequate muscle hypertrophy?

[@MicrophoneAssassin13]

Injury, or a high-stress period... or the holidays :D

[@fitnytech]

Gym is a place where fat is burned and pride is earned.

[@BODYBUILDERS_AGAINST_FEMINISM]

Literally all of this dialectic conversation about how to gain muscle can be boiled down to one word : Trenboloney Sandwhichesssssssss

[@slicktrips]

Screw loosing body mass eat 1000 calories over maintenance learn to shut off your natural limiter and become a beast

[@xyzmediaandentertainment8313]

Yeah cause being an unattractive fatass just to say "you're strong" is totally worth it 😂

[@smolboyi]

The hard gainer life is tough :[ all good though.

[@sikastrength]

Just more Gear, more sarms, more calories and absolutely no physical activity

[@smolboyi]

@@sikastrength lmfao!

[@MonkeyBarsEveryday]

@@sikastrength based

[@ates423]

I find it difficult to balance basketball weightlifting, and dunking/vertical training/plyometrics/speed workouts. I want to smash prs in the gym, but at the same time I need to stay lean and slim/lightweight for basketball. I want to build up strength for the low post but at the same time I want to retain my first step explosiveness and the ability to dunk. Whenever I focus on one I sacrifice the other. My highest prs was a 180kg deadlift and 100kg bench at 100kg body weight, 14% bf, 194cm. The downside was, I was slow and I couldn’t jump well at all. My highest vertical and best dunks were at 86kg 10% bf but I was weak. My max bench was 85kg. I got pushed around in the post. I feel like I want to do everything and by doing everything I end up doing nothing and accomplishing nothing IDK I might hire a training coach and really dial down on diet. Maybe even hop on preworkout and creatine. I’ve been working out for 2 years

[@shadoweditz9335]

Start doing power cleans. Power cleans work on your explosion.

[@timlifts]

It's me, I'm Timmy

[@sikastrength]

Hi Timmy

[@chronischermasturbationssc1027]

Do both. The end lol.

[@TheYoRND]

Yes

[@lorini11]

Sikastan is the center of the world, the center of civilization

[@dextertittil]

He said I’m an athlete 😅

[@KwisBwown]

great video lads!

[@malcontentmongreloid5486]

If you want to be a DYEL, go ahead, do your fancy snatches, power cleans and front squants. Meanwhile, I’ll be doing the basic non-technical lifts fit only for a barbarian, lifts which are time-tested to put the most meat and strength on you in the most efficient manner in the shortest period of time. You can never go wrong with the classic bench, OHP, squat, rows, and pull-ups. Not to mention also putting a strong emphasis on single joint exercises for the arms: curls, triceps variations, lat/front raises, and wrist curls. This is something even the mighty power lifters neglect, in turn leading to torso dominant physiques. Single joint exercises are to be treated just as importantly as multi joint if one of average genetics is to get big. Non-negotiable

[@thechosenone93]

Don’t you think you have jumped the gun a bit?

[@jorgelisaola642]

I’ve been doing the basic shit for years now and my strength is miles ahead of most people I know

[@thechosenone93]

@@jorgelisaola642 It probably is. I’m not denying it but clearly the channel is aimed primarily at weightlifters,whilst speaking on some of the latest news/developments in powerlifting and other strength points. So you,who trains in the main compound lifts,shouldn’t have had the incentive to disrespect weightlifters because the video didn’t even call you out or disrespect your style of training. If I’m a weightlifter my goals are to get the highest weight overhead,get the heaviest squat/front squat I can manage and keep improving.

[@xyzmediaandentertainment8313]

Unless your goal is strictly powerlifitng/strength training, You can totally go wrong with the classics. To be athletic, build an aesthetic physique and prevent injuries it's imperative that you add in accessory movements along with non lifting exercises like running/swimming

[@Kalilloko]

👏👏👏👏

[@selfimproover]

Bulking and cutting. Revolutionary

[@aroundandround]

I didn’t see any “paradox” though.

[@PANZORification]

It's that lifts can still go up even though body weight drops down on the right side of the inverted U.

[@pemerich2989]

just ate like 2lbs of food before watching this video, just waiting to hit the gym lmao

[@austinb3560]

I eat my own nut 🥛 for protein

[@awildstrongmonappears6770]

In early!!!! Whoooo

[@Kobe005]

I am Timmy

[@infinitesalsa4422]

"The inverted U curve" It's a bell curve ._. someone was sleeping in year 6 math

[@dw300]

Eh nope. A bell curve would measure eg. the weight or iq for people within a dataset, and plot that against the number of data at that value. This curve is a time series, which never starts at zero and will never return to zero.

[@andrewgirod]

All the clips of people eating was very triggering. Had to pause for a snack.

[@josephlondon8188]

Why not just call it an “n” curve? Lmao

[@shauncreed1315]

algorithm

[@elmerayala5366]

Jesus Christ get to the point

[@dw300]

I don't think that was Jesus speaking