The Boys - How One Scene Ruined The Show

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The Boys is a 2019 superhero series made by Amazon, detailing the adventures of The Boys, a group of individuals that work to stop the damage created by superheroes, with most superheroes being depicted as selfish, vain, narcissists who care only about their image and money
In this video, we'll be going over a scene at the end of season 1, and showing how a power used in this scene completely breaks the story, due to just how overpowered this power is and how it should effect the plot
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[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

Not only he saved Butcher from the explosion without hurting him, he apparently saved the baby too. This dude is unstoppable.

[@TheRealLoomar]

I'm not actually sure about that. In season 3 we see Teddy as a small child, and he can apparently teleport While it is a massive contrivance, I wouldn't be surprised if Teddy teleported out the house to safety instead, especially as Homelander has no reason to save him

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

@@TheRealLoomar Tbh, he has no reason to save Butcher either...but I would rather believe he saved Stilwell's baby than the baby suddenly teleporting at the exact moment to save himself.

[@TheRealLoomar]

Homelander enjoys toying with people (part of his sadism) and he's also intrigued by Butcher, being the only normal human to have done so much against him I can believe that Homelander would save Butcher to see his reaction to finding out his wife is alive and to see how far Butcher will go to take him more than I can believe that Homelander saved Teddy

[@guerreiroazul3230]

That power was apparently retconned since he doesn't ever use it again, despite how useful superspeed would've been in his fights.

[@brocKain]

What was retconned?​@@guerreiroazul3230

[@PsychedelicDude]

Typical Kripke writing. Supernatural suffers from similar inconsistencies and other writing issues. I love both series though.

[@MarvinPowell1]

Homelander is depicted as overpowered, but he also easily gets beaten by Compound V Butcher and Queen Meave later in season three. I get they've never established that Homelander can fight and he likely has weak hand-to-hand combat skills, but how can he also get beaten so easily by Queen Maeve of all people, who was depicted as being terrified of him in season one? This destroys his character more so, because it means pretty much any three superheroes should be able to take him out in a fight, and yet Soldier Boy, who should be almost as strong as Homelander, couldn't do that with Compound V Butcher. In other words, his power level is completely inconsistent and seems to change on a whim. It makes him a non-threat.

[@Iamworm]

But Maeve was beaten bloody by Homelander and butcher needed help from soldier boy and hughie Sure his power levels are inconsistent but there’s never really been a time where he’s been completely defeated

[@MarvinPowell1]

@@Iamworm Meave used to be powerful, but has become lazy and drunk by this point in the show and has "ring rust" in regards to actual combat, especially since supervillains pretty much don't exist in the show. She shouldn't even be able to beat The Female in a fight. Soldier Boy is Homelander's father and besides being resurrected, shouldn't really be that rusty in combat, especially since he's like 75-80% as powerful as Homelander, plus has actual combat experience. Soldier Boy should've beat him easily. And Butcher is pretty physically active, meaning even if Compound V makes him a fraction as strong as Homelander, his fighting skill and mental tactics should have given him the edge over Homelander, who's overconfident and never been challenged in a fight. Homelander only survives through plot armor. All Homelander is, is brute strength (and laser vision), so for them to take that away from him makes him look really weak cause he has nothing else going for him. Especially compared to how OP they made Stormfront in season two despite also being unchallenged and not skilled at fighting. They nerfed the hell out of Homelander after season one.

[@Iamworm]

@@MarvinPowell1 yeah that’s true

[@caseyhart4999]

It should also be noted that Homelander never at any point is actually fighting Maeve seriously. He has stated he wants her alive to use her to make his supe babies so he’s not going to kill her.

[@TheRealLoomar]

"Homelander never at any point is actually fighting Maeve seriously" He says, after Homelander tries to laser her in half and gauges her eye out

[@supa_sets8636]

When he didn’t let soldier boy kill Homelander and the boy it ruined the whole series. Butcher obsessed over killing Homelander for 10 years. All he could think about and strive towards. He should not have cared for the boy it was completely against his character the Boy should have got Vaporized. The real Butcher would have laughed as it happened

[@loknas]

They showed it as a kindness to his wife. He thought he was a widower for a very long time and that completely broke him. The one thing that tethered him to the world left when his wife “died”. When he learned she was in fact alive and was told by her dying wish to protect Ryan he couldn’t not do it. Sure he’s sadistic, but he’d do anything for his wife. I think it was explained rather well. Maybe the comic book butcher would do it, but the show butcher is a more complex person.

[@Mysticmegster1]

Didn't know there was going to be a Season 4 - this is long overdue!

[@zucchi6148]

They were busy working on Gen V so Season 4 will release in about two months. That's how they're doing things now, one season of the boys one year then one season of Gen V the next year and so on.

[@lolno6975]

My theory is that he doesn't have super speed, but instead that homelander tanked the explosion, then took an unconscious (caused by blast energy) Butcher to random house

[@KMC2406]

I think in season 3, we see that the baby (now a kid) is on the orphanage that Hugie goes to, and he is shown to have teleportation powers, I think they even call the kid by his name. So maybe the idea was to imply that homelander didn't get them out of there, but the baby, and then homelander just took Butcher to Becka's house.

[@DieysonGomesCC]

I mean, they could have showed him grabbing butcher and the baby before the explosion lit up the room, but that would've had way less of an impact. Fun and cool storytelling should always take precedence over believability, as long as it isn't something that completely breaks the story's internal logic. I also have these thoughts when watching these kinds of shows, but think it's acceptable as long as the story remains fun and engaging. Going for the most logically and scientifically accurate solutions is not always going to be the most fun storytelling strategy.

[@mcbadrobotvoice8155]

The tunnels scene doesn’t really make sense with super speed I agree. As for the fights with butcher, soilder boy, ect. It can be argued that they have high levels of reaction and combat speeds as well due to their super powers, we see Hugh teleporting out of the way of homelanders beams so it’s possible they can keep up with him. They probably just can’t travel as fast as he can while flying which isn’t inconsistent. We also see Kimiko grab atrains face while he was running in the subway fight scene, so it’s likely supes like her can fight at high speeds even if they can’t run/fly that fast. So the fight scenes with homelander aren’t necessarily inconsistent in that respect.

[@kicker3186]

Wait until you find out about a character named “The Flash”.

[@aakashsancheti9614]

Solider Buy’s son, Soulja Boi

[@cherylannburke-wx3ko]

Homelander: I was watching an old Startrek episode, they said the population of children, were ageing one month after 100 years. Then Bones, the future doctor, says, these kids are over 300 years old.The children being 8-10 years in appearance. Not only is that bad math, its written, revised, rehearsed, then filmed, then edited. Ultimately people were in a rush for gains, because we designed money to cause action, by emergency. You wouldn't get involved other wise.

[@NaturalOrder]

Now here me out.... Homelander didnt care enough to save the plane... out of annoyance or maybe to spite the others... :/

[@chuck_muckle]

people in the comments who say stuff like "the show fell off after season 1" probably didnt even watch the video because the "one scene" he talks about literally happens in the season 1 finale.

[@TheRealLoomar]

I think it's the fact that, while Season 1 has a badly written ending, it's just one bad thing in an otherwise pretty great season Seasons 2 and 3 are when lots of different plot holes/contrivances/out of character moments happen that makes the show a massive step down in quality

[@chuck_muckle]

@TheRealLoomar im actually in agreement with the fact that s1 was definitely the best written season. i think that people are just neglecting the fact that the ending set up the biggest power inconsistency of the entire show, meaning that all seasons following it, no matter how good the writing, wouldnt be able to explain why he could magically move at light speed. to follow up such a nonsensical ending would be difficult for even the best writers. but yes, the rest of the show is definitely littered with more instances of poor writing than the first season, im just saying that people ignore the fact that the first season has the biggest contrivance when it comes to power of any of the future seasons. like you said in the title, it ruins the stakes of the show. arguably i dont think itd be possible to follow with a consistently good written season without either addressing it (however youd do that) or by retconning or ignoring what happened there.

[@lukabole4453]

This video gave me Madvocate vibes (I mean that in a good way of course)

[@TheRealLoomar]

Cheers, appreciate it

[@randomrey6568]

i said the same thing

[@MexieMex]

Yup, I've given up with the show

[@TheRealLoomar]

I'm still curious to see where it goes, but I'm nowhere near as heavily invested in it anymore

[@MexieMex]

@@TheRealLoomar I'm not bothered, I may watch a KZbin season review after it's finished to see what happened, but I doubt I'll even bother with that.

[@TheRealLoomar]

Fair enough. I guess I just really like the actors, despite the decline of their characters. Plus Antony Starr just kills it as Homelander and I wanna see where Homelander ends up

[@jacinto1477]

Literaly overanalising a scene lol . the point of that scene was to show how Butcher family was still alive. Who the heck was watching that and going " How is was he able to move so fast?".Also you do know that he can fly pretty fast right, In that Homelander vs Maeve fight he wasnt flying, he was fighting close counters and just because he can fly very fast doesnt mean he can fight very fast. Velocity=/= Agility.Flying is a separate power to him.

[@SatanicBarbeque]

Except homelanders max flight speed is around Mach 1, so he needs either super durability to avoid the air friction literally boiling the liquids in his body as he flies, or he needs the ability to just turn off air friction for his body and his suit. So either he should be durable enough to not get his ass beat by compound V butcher, or he should have the ability to stop his punches from being slowed by air friction, and thus combined with his super strength he should be able to throw incredibly fast punches against maeve. Either way, they contradict themselves and change Homelanders power set/abilities to just fit the scene as they see fit. Kinda funny of you to say this guy is overanalyzing a scene when the boys as whole was made because the writer hated superhero comics/how unrealistic they are and decided to overanalyze every aspect of super powers to make them more realistic.

[@kerrychristensen7204]

👍

[@TheRealLoomar]

Thanks

[@caseyhart4999]

Homelander was never trying to kill Maeve. She would be destroyed very quickly if he fought her with intent to kill. I’m not saying the thesis of the video is necessarily wrong but that should be pointed out. Ultimately any time you have characters who can move at super speed like A-Train or The Flash you end up with inconsistencies like this. Realistically A-Train by himself should be able to clear all of The Boys by himself and likely would have at the end of season 1 if not for the heart attack.

[@joshuarenard3147]

Dude homelander isn't the flash ofc he wasn't able to move at super speeds,his top speed is mach 3 while FLYING,not by moving his arms or legs he isn't the flash. 2 homelander doesn't know how to fight he's super lazy,reason why Maeve manage to beat up homelander is simply due to the fact she beens training and 3 by the looks of it homelanders inside has strong as the outsid,by the looks of it he doesn't know the full extent of Mave strength smart ass he didn't see her as a treat until she manage to make him bleed ,the second he bled he was simply stunned and didn't know what to do.I think you gotta rewatch the series.

[@Anthonycheesman33]

I’m so tired of film bros on KZbin lol.

[@44Tuckster]

this show fell off in quality after season 1

[@MarvinPowell1]

Eric Kripke was given too much power and the show fell off a cliff after season one, going all-in on the political BS and Trump allusions to Homelander.

[@chuck_muckle]

bro the biggest plot hole which he talks about in this video happens at the end of s1

[@44Tuckster]

@@chuck_muckle you missed the fact that all the plot hole problems come from moments in season 2 and 3 in which they go against the established powers for the characters. One bad moment doesn't change the fact that season 1 was the peak in quality for the show. Its seasons 2 and 3 that are the seasons that have the worse writing and little to no consistency. Broaden your horizons this isn't the only video that has criticized The Boys.

[@44Tuckster]

@@MarvinPowell1 true that and George Mastras (who was a producer on Breaking Bad) leaving after season one also hurt the quality a ton

[@chuck_muckle]

@44Tuckster "all" the plothole problems definitely dont just come from the later seasons. the season 1 ending was definitely the biggest character writing inconsistency for homelander and for anyone. my comment never claimed that the show didnt fall off in quality, im just pointing out the fact that the show writers dug themselves into that whole in the FIRST season. no good writing could have come up with a reason why that ending makes sense for the character. i agree, s1 was the best, but i think you missed the point of my comment.

[@utibegeorge1555]

Power scaling is not important in American shows . How do Batman, Black Widow or Hawk eye fight beside gods . Anime beats them in this aspect

[@basilplushie2534]

Anime does not beat them in this aspect 💀💀 Group of teenagers fighting against god 🤣🤣

[@ThePrince1835]

Power scaling is dumb

[@bazzascott8935]

He defused the bomb while he was lasering her face off. Knocked billy out, there you go.

[@TheRealLoomar]

So in the scene where we see the bomb explode, the bomb didn't explode?

[@bazzascott8935]

@@TheRealLoomar yeah.

[@TheRealLoomar]

I really hope you're trolling me because the bomb very clearly went off in that scene Like it's not even a debate. That's the whole point of the scene

[@bazzascott8935]

@@TheRealLoomar I mean, Homelander defuses bomb, knocks out Billy, blows up the builder as he leaves because ya know, Homelander.

[@TheRealLoomar]

Except for the fact that Billy is completely conscious when he tries to trigger the bomb and doesn't seem surprised or concerned in the few seconds afterwards, which he would be if his bomb didn't go off That and on top of the fact that an audible explosion sound is heard and he is literally engulfed by the light of the explosion in this scene I understand if you like the series, but don't make up a headcanon that doesn't make sense at all to try and justify this flaw