The Bungie LEGEND Who Wants To REBOOT HALO... (EXTREMELY SPICY 🔥)

[@HiddenXperia]

This might be the spiciest video I've ever made, for MANY reasons...

[@brawndo1255]

I grew up playing the original Marathon games and reading the terminals. I know what this guy is talking about. Marathon and Halo Bungie had a very special sense of story that is as much about what is in front of you as a player as it is about the history, cosmos, mystery, and abstract horrors hinted at beyond the player's perspective. This is art, and art loses to commerce eventually.

[@ants7279]

I agree the series should be RB from Halo 4 the game play sucked god how we forgot about Halo 4 so fast it was that bad.

[@theincrediblefella7984]

Not...really. some guy who has no control over the franchise wants to reboot it? Ok? Why am I supposed to care? I want Pokemon to go back to the way it was in the gen 5 era. But I have no control over the franchise, just like this dude has no control over Halo. Move on.

[@ants7279]

@@theincrediblefella7984 Chill bro have some faith,Vent!

[@SpottedHares]

Gears of War(franchise), Killing Floor (franchies), Borderlands (franchies),Mortal Combat(not all but quite a few), Deep Rock Galactic( didn't know that my self i just ignored to boot up screen,Palworld, Dead by Daylight, and of Course Unreal its self for which the engine is name. just some successful multiplayer games made in Unreal, for a guy that works at the company he sure doesn't know a lot about its own product. On and as you mentioned Fortnight, and game that gets a bullshit quarter billion people playing it a month

[@TheMartyODonnell]

Hardy was such a lukewarm guy. He never seemed to have a strong opinion about anything. He just went with the flow. I wish I could have seen him take a strong position about anything.

[@TheMartyODonnell]

❤ you Hardy 😉

[@Savoritas]

Yeah, a real Softy that guy..

[@ThaliaGecko]

Love you and michaels music marty. Also go fuck yourself prick

[@T3tra_BR55]

What are your thoughts on a reboot

[@daka3785]

Can you wish me happy birthday day

[@drakowithadraco]

HE: So what are your thoughts on 343 and current Halo? Hardy: Well see that’s a tricky question. I know a lot of them personally. Bonnie and Kiki are great and successful people Also Hardy: Proceeds to evicerate the last decade of their careers

[@silver333z]

gotta respect the honesty. Bonnie and Kiki did a disservice to the IP he had a big part in creating, I would not have used such nice words if I were him

[@Elyrium42]

they were great and successful with their prior work, but as he said, they didn't understand halo

[@quietnumber2317]

You don't inherit a console defining juggernaut, run it into the ground over the course of years, then walk away with a "well you did your best". Ideally, when leadership catastrophically fails that hard, they should be the ones to take the harsh feedback and willingly too. Instead, they are protected class which is sheltered from consequence and criticism. When they leave the ruins of all they've destroyed they get handed a new executive position somewhere else while those under them suffer the most. It's bullshit and everyone knows it. Nothing should be sugarcoated when discussing it.

[@danielsmith3313]

Saying you can't write a halo comedy when Red Vs Blue is right there

[@lordduckofquack]

RvB is *PEAK* halo content. Bungie and 343 really shot themselves in the foot by not doing more with rooster teeth other than voice line Easter eggs.

[@Forkinthemud]

​@@lordduckofquack rooster teeth shot themselves in the foot if you know the history of that company.

[@lordduckofquack]

@@Forkinthemud No denying that.

[@Unduplicatable]

And if RvB isn’t enough for you, we still have Hard Justice, One Life Remaining, and plenty of other Machinimas.

[@lordduckofquack]

@@Unduplicatable Crash is looking really promising. I’d look into it. Pretty well received so far.

[@MrSpicy8310]

Arbiter underwear: "Were it so breezy"

[@Hyde472]

10/10

[@DigitalxFire_ttv]

Lmfao

[@Kenlaboss.]

"Were it so cheezy"

[@Saelestria-jd3uq]

Flood of the Loom 😂

[@agentnukaz1715]

Are u tryna sell it to me?? Cus I'm sold 😂

[@LateNightHalo]

Good talk, gents. Hardy is so wholesome

[@isaiahcollazo6953]

very glad Hardy challenges your beliefs and ideas about halo, and other games and media you mentioned. it's very good to have someone with contradicting opinions because it encourages open-mindedness. reflective listening is more like it. Halo really deserves a full reboot in the "military sci-f" genre

[@Stuntmachine14]

I like Hardy challenging us the fans. We value halo so much, meanwhile him, he worked on halo 1 and 2, but sees it as it is, games that should be fun to play and creatives be fully creative.

[@connorking6852]

Hardy is great. Need more interviews with him. As someone re reading the original halo novels he’s absolutely right, the military sci fi needs to come back instead of just science fiction space style

[@Brody2362]

it is so fucking refreshing to hear people talking about how halo is a MILITARY setting first. The superherofication of halo is by far the worst thing 343 did with it. Spartans aren't superhero's, they are military assets.

[@dhopss]

Meanwhile 343 had people who were against guns to the point where they couldn’t stand looking at them employed in decision making roles for the halo IP. Can’t make it up.

[@Unduplicatable]

This is the “same” comment I have been liking or saying myself since this chaos began. I had hopes for 343 because.. what else am I supposed to do, be a hater without seeing the final result? 343 completely failed. Everything after Reach was a worthless disaster. Some good music here or there, some good ideas, but really we should have seen a Halo 3 addon. I never cared for Reach like most people did. My fanfare ended at Halo 3, and Reach should have just been DLC for Halo 3 or they could have remastered 1-3 and had Reach as Halo 1 DLC or something along those lines…

[@TheUnseenSoldier]

Bungie did a lot of justice to this topic all the way to Halo Reach. With the passing of each game getting there, you can see each installment getting better and better in the regard of improving the military setting. After Reach, they threw the military setting to the trash.

[@georgecisneros5281]

Fair point. But it’s kind of interesting to view it as a reflection of how actual real world militarist propaganda portrays the idealized soldier as near super heroic figures. In that sense, you might take it as an instance of the narrative of the story itself conforming to the more exaggerated example of the military propagandist iconography, in a manner of speak.

[@9-30am]

I love how uncensored this guy is. Such a breathe of fresh air and what we need. What a great interview!

[@George_033]

I've always loved Halo the most, because of its Historical, Scientific, Theological, and Military realism. It stands out because of those things, and having them removed is a tragedy.

[@aabgjbtlfjcb]

Don’t think I could have said that better myself.

[@agentnukaz1715]

That's why we love the marines and the covenant so much. But also the mystery and wonder brought by the forerunner

[@isaacmacqueen9695]

Its why 343 halos dont quite feel the same. they got rid of the military scifi and replaced it with the super hero scifi and its just not as good

[@JRayxai]

that wouldnt be removed tho. the story would be re imagined in a reboot and those are the some of the elements you would keep that are halo.

[@isaacmacqueen9695]

@JRayxai not with the current team. There's no way the guy who is scared of video game gun violence is going to be happy with military scifi

[@banishedepsilon1802]

If Halo Studios does any kind of reboot, they have to make sure they don't repeat the exact same mistakes they keep on making with 4, 5, and now Infinite. Thse mistakes include: 1. Requiring outside lore material to fully understand or enjoy the main campaign (save the stuff that only hardcore lore fans would enjoy for campaign DLC instead of jamming it into the campaign) 2. Starting a plotline or story arc that ends on a cliffhanger in the campaign, then having it unsatisfyingly resolved or thrown out in a book or offscreen 3. Overly focusing the story around character drama and emotions instead of the plot

[@Turututu-T]

I agree with everything. I would also add that the story shouldn’t depend SO MUCH on Halsey. Seriously, I know she’s important to the Halo universe, but Halo 4, Halo 5, and Infinite rely on her for practically everything. I really prefer discussing this topic here instead of on the Halo or HaloStory subreddit. Honestly, I was heavily criticized there.

[@Will_Forge]

4. They also shifted the genre of the storytelling by changing how the story is portrayed in almost every way. Writing, cinematography, plot, and even the gameplay to an extent. They need to be sure to convey a sci-fi war film genre rather than a sci-fi super hero drama. Halo is a war film, not an action movie. Those are different genres that handle the action and drama in very different ways. You can compare the usual mentions like Band of Brothers and Saving Private Ryan and compare them to the Marvel movies as an example of the problem. MC is the cavalry in a war film so he feels like a super hero, but he's a hero among soldiers in a war film rather than a super hero. He's not a super hero character but rather is a super soldier character. Similar by drastically different writing involved in both.

[@Will_Forge]

​@@Turututu-T to the end of what I just said, Halsey in Reach was great because she was treated as a genius civilian among the command structure in a military at war. In Halo 4/5 she was written a super genius akin to Tony Stark except she's been taken prisoner and then being interrogated. She wasn't even put on trial, but rather put in a dark room to be yelled at for heavy handed exposition. A court scene would have been even worse, don't get me wrong, but that setting for her interrogation was so far out of genre. It added to the issue.

[@BlueBD]

If they do any kind of Reboot it has to start at Halo4. 3 Finished the Fight but everything After 3 (Aside from Reach and ODST) have been complete nonsense, being clear they had no idea how to continue the story AFTER THE END

[@BigNacho90]

​@@BlueBD agree

[@marcosmauricio7805]

Reboot into the Silver Timeline is absolute nightmare fuel

[@jjglazed4852]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@gloomykasumi8580]

Kiki Wolfkills worst creation lmaooo

[@helixenterprises9013]

That sounds awesome, I want a Silver-Timeline game now😂

[@jjglazed4852]

@@helixenterprises9013 stapling my eyes sounds better than watching a silver timeline show

[@psychobilly42069]

​@@helixenterprises9013fuck the silver timeline, we need a expansion on the SQUARE ENIX TIMELINE, blue team riding around on space motorcycles in bad ass mark IV prototype armor and saving hot anime girl Halsey from being kidnapped by the bug eyed elites

[@Rocket_Rex]

I missed the old Bungie attitude of standing firmly on things they liked and didn't. All of these takes were refreshing to hear, and reminded me of why it was a childhood dream of mine to work with this team on Halo.

[@Bardock7132]

Same. Bungie made me want to be a game designer. And squaresoft before them really got me enamored with gaming as a medium.

[@jaredsergent857]

The last time we got a new team with a new vision for Halo. We got the Halo TV Show. No thanks.

[@BaggyFTJ]

Pretty much.

[@gendygoblin8391]

Well they had no interest in the games. Like Hardy said, you gotta have a lot of appreciation for the source material.

[@SPARTANLuis067]

​@@gendygoblin8391That's almost impossible these days tho. There's very few companies creating games, movies, art etc just for the passion of the medium. It's all about money or social issues. We'll never get a total reboot for Halo with the same amount of passion and creativity as we had in 2001 since that would be risky, and Microsoft isn't in the business to take risks

[@dhopss]

Exactly, convinced they want halo to fail. Just copy and paste halo 3 multiplayer with some newer features. Updated graphics following the newer infinite timeline (actually developing it in house and not cutting all the planned content) would be an almost guaranteed slam dunk. Hearing about all the cut content from infinite was so depressing. All while paying almost exclusively 3rd party participants to develop your game for you is a recipe doomed for failure.

[@Mega-Brick]

Rebooting Halo is a no-win situation. If you do anything _any_ differently you'll just attract unnecessarily large amounts of criticism, but if you do it the same way as before, there's no point in rebooting it. Which is a shame; I love seeing new and fresh takes, I wish we got the opportunity more often to explore that.

[@Maxxisblitz]

I see what Hardy's saying, but I think the strongest universes believe in what made them popular. This is why the Star Trek Kelvin Timeline films don't hit for fans like Strange New Worlds does. Old canon, new stories, rooted in the same soil which grew the franchise. The Silver Timeline is evidence of this problem.

[@ShadowDreamer100]

The Silver Timeline made no sense for anyone. It was done terribly on purpose, I swear.

[@agentnukaz1715]

Master cheek's timeline is evidence of nothing. I could've wrote better halo as an 8yr old with a crayon.

[@nuclearsimian3281]

The Kelvin timeline movies are also made like crap. They'd hit better if they weren't made by JJ Abrams.

[@91mattmac]

@@Maxxisblitz while I usually advocate for original content, I do think Hardy has a point on the comparison to Batman. The fabled “Halo Bible” needs to be re-established, more than just a contextual idea though, something concrete. Just like the old triangle of fun, if people are going to recreate Halo, it has to meet the established criteria. Maybe that’s too romantic of an idea though. I think there’s enough of us die hards/old die hards who still love this franchise and want to see a proper legacy left behind, to reclaim the mantle!

[@Arkantos117]

Strange New Worlds only hits for some fans. I've actually seen Lower Decks get more love from a wider range of fans than SNW.

[@alphony_]

I had a week off of college recently and I took the time to replay every single halo game (except for 5) and it gave me the closest feel to childhood I’ve had in a while. I’ve been playing halo since I was 4 and I would really love a return to form of halo.

[@BigRascal]

Same dude, well I didn’t play all the halo games lol. But still I’ve also been playing Halo since I was 4. I remember playing CE on my dad’s Xbox 360. And I’m in college too currently 😂. And dude just being in College makes me sad, everything I love growing up is just slowly dying, like Halo. I remember as a kid seeing how big halo reach and halo 4 were. And infinite really gave me hope that I would see Halo return to that size again. And it did sort of… but only for like a week and then the game died. It just sucks, I just want to see halo be so successful again so badly.

[@CommissarChaotic]

full circle ha!

[@Kuuvr]

@@BigRascal same. i remember college kids being old to me and reading this comment i was like oh wait.. i am in college

[@Jskoov]

emphasis on the (except for 5)

[@dr.pastrami5272]

play Ruby of Blue's remastered campaign mod if you want to experience Halo for the first time again one last time. He should be almost done with H2. H1 is complete.

[@Vi_Renders]

1:02:15 "You're basically giving over technological control to the opps" Damn, Hardy, talk yo shit 😂😂

[@outpostanimations1400]

I agree with a lot of what he said aside from the Reboot part, the idea of halo returning to a true mil-sci-fi is what’s needed, and I still believe something like that can be fleshed out in an “ODST” game, we’ve seen a halo reboot (show) and the desaturate that was, there is 25 years worth of a war that can be explored creatively yes there’ll be story constraints but I think there is still enough room for creativity if you get people who truly care about the genre

[@nolandderlugner1351]

they should just reboot from halo 4 mendicant bias guiding chief's ship to a shield world(actually worlds shielded from halo) is peak fiction include the halo 2 planned ending somehow in the shield world, meeting a life forerunner/human there

[@destebangm11216]

What a based statement "all the best games run on source" I wanna give a hug to this man just by that statement XDDD. What a great interview, I didn't know Hardy but I am a big fan now, a pretty good discussion

[@runningrebel978]

I agree with this guy being a military scifi first not a super hero story it makes it feels way more grown up

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

It’s already a superhero story, Chief is known as an unstoppable legend

[@Turututu-T]

@@jakespacepiratee3740 That’s the problem; he shouldn’t be portrayed as a superhero, just a soldier who earned the title of hero through his actions. A soldier on the battlefield with his artificial companion (80s/90s style), fighting against fanatical religious aliens.

[@BallPlayer17127]

@@jakespacepiratee3740yea but he was still a small part in a bigger war

[@lucasa9480]

@@Turututu-T and in the lore he is that. but the presentation of the original games works so well because they portray chief as a superhero, post CE halo is a space opera and that's a GOOD thing.

[@Turututu-T]

@@lucasa9480 Space Opera?

[@grifnizzle7197]

Based interview is based. That man is a treasure, and further proof that old school Bungie team was an Avengers level team up we didn't know we had until it was gone.

[@ArandomHitman]

"Extremely spicy" oh no don't tell me Xperia is dropping an OF 🤣

[@Herrjrdenrunt]

Christmas came early 😂

[@HiddenXperia]

SSSSHHHHH it's invite only rn, may I remind you that you're still under the "Official HiddenXperia Foot NDA"

[@Ramazvousgames]

​@@HiddenXperiaDaddy?

[@antifurry-fr9hj]

@@Ramazvousgames NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[@ArandomHitman]

@@HiddenXperia Another one has succumbed to the degeneracy boys, you know what to do....

[@zinematics]

Spicy takes aside, this is an ICONIC level interview

[@Bobaluga9]

Agreed on grapplehook. A 1 ton spartan has access to jetpacks and has jets on his armor. Market trend chasing is all 343 is.

[@RubenGutierrez-k2o]

🤝🤛🤙

[@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778]

"NOOOO! don't you know every modern singleplayer heckin triple a modern slop needs a grapple hook GUYS!! LIKE HECKIN DOOMGUY!"

[@webbyfatsack1310]

The thing about the jets on the armor is we saw that in Halo 5 and it made the game not feel like a Halo Game

[@HexmaniacAlice]

even tho it kinda plays well I do agree honestly one of the core things I've always liked about halo is it's mostly grounded and "realistic" (in a fun way) and this is a bit of a departure from that for the sake of fun I really do agree with him maybe it should've been restricted to ODSTs or something cuz if you grapple a grunt you pull towards it and that just... feels wrong...

[@agentnukaz1715]

I could see it reworked for scailing instead of flying and a focus on weapon disarm. As much as I love the titanfallish movement, it's an asspull even for the future

[@pajamaboy2116]

Fellow game dev here chasing after MechAssault. I just want to say this is probably my favourite video to ever release on this channel and I'm only 14 minutes in! Based on what I've seen so far Hardy really embodies the attitude that made the world's best games. I believe in the principles he's bringing to the table here, just the way he talks about it I can tell he's deeply passionate and cares about where Halo ended up. I've seen developers take a lot of BS from their communities over the years, many times undeserved, and many times where the feedback is based in critisism of a specific feature or mechanic and causes members of a team to shut down instead of addressing the problem and reaching that next level of quality. What I see here is a man with thick skin from an era where devs were their own biggest critics. During the 6th and 7th gen, we were honest with ourselves when games weren't fun. People have the right to run their teams however they like, but I can tell. This is the mentality of someone who still has some great games left in him. The way he approches the topic aggressively shows the fire still burns. I wish I had the chance to chat him up about design philosophy. I feel like there's a lot he could teach me haha. Edit: just wanted to add, I never really cared for the Nolan Batman movies either. But I would take it a step further and say I also never cared for Ledger's Joker. Way too much of a departure for my taste.

[@MIBxSpartan]

That’s were Halo started going down is when the military si-fi took a backseat.

[@BalthasarGelt-x2d]

I think anyone who works on Halo should have to play all of Bungie’s mid-late 90s games and all of their Halo games in order to settle into the vibe. Marathon, Myth, Oni, all the way to Halo Reach.

[@spookypepper6900]

@@BalthasarGelt-x2d They also have to watch Starship Troopers, Robocop, and most importantly, Aliens multiple times.

[@Horrorpleb]

21:37 Luc felt his heart sink, the immense betrayal. As someone who also loves the resident evil franchise... I feel your pain 🤣

[@HiddenXperia]

TANK CONTROLS 4EVER

[@liger4414]

I love the RE franchise myself. Grew up with OG RE2, played them all. OG RE2 is my favorite. But let's face the music, tank controls are ass. RE4 original and even RE5 had tank controls but they weren't as clunky as the OG's were. There was more control thanks to the lack of fixed camera angles. RE2 Remake proved you can have RE4's over-the-shoulder perspective and keep the horror. It's RE's sweet spot while tank controls are just nostalgic.

[@warrengouldthorpe5091]

I always liked the tank controls and got use to them

[@clutchhaze1036]

Thank you for Blood Gulch. I can't describe how much time I have spent on that map or its variants.

[@flatarthur3161]

Just reboot everything after Halo 3 and bring it in line with the Bungie canon.

[@osirisjojo6876]

Agreed

[@gavinrobinson8925]

This is what i want to see.

[@GallowayJesse]

100%

[@AstralApple]

Halo 4 campaign was really good :) It's multiplayer was spicy af too, that bolt shot and hologram, scatter shot and incineration cannon :0 Spicy spicy spicy!

[@jackp492]

Yeah easy too, new halo game, chief wakes up from cryo, after a recovery team finds him, led by the arbiter who has not rested until he was found During his sleep chief was having a nightmare about 343 guilty spark running the show

[@MrMiggenz]

27:11 Halo does have a comedy! It’s red vs blue!

[@War_Economy_Enjoyer]

not cannon wise

[@LimySilver2]

@@War_Economy_Enjoyer well yeah but imagine a bad company-esque squad game. could work

[@War_Economy_Enjoyer]

@@LimySilver2 that'll actually be dope

[@thelastbrick4551]

Roses are red Violets are blue

[@lando9184]

Hes completely right about the grappling hook. The developers are creatively bankrupt

[@Savoritas]

Well, its fun to use and most would agree with that sentiment. I do however agree that it hurts the vehicle part of Halo immensely and for that reason I don't want it to come back unless they make it a pick up that has a few uses, much like Halo 3 handled its abilities.

[@jimmuthedeath1215]

I don’t think the grappling hook at all impeded my need to pilot a vehicle. Vehicles were still amazing in a fight or for traveling long distances. Especially the flying ones. The grappling hook only helped me in my immediate situation like fleeing for cover or gaining higher ground. It helped a lot with in-door environments or battlefields with heavy terrain. It was also useful for getting things that were almost within reach like fuel containers. The only time I used it for gaining distance was when there wasn’t any vehicle around, but if I stumbled across a vehicle I’d commandeer it for the speed and on-board weapons. I thought it was a really good quality of life change for a Halo game (my first Halo was Halo 2 on the Xbox First Gen). It offered more movement and control to fights, as well as somewhat made them more dynamic. Hot take but I’d rather have the grappling hook than sprint. Tbh I just liked the movement in Infinite the best. Being able to jump up and pull myself up onto ledges is stuff I’ve been wishing to have as a feature since the beginning. Although I will say idk how to feel about the Grapple being in Multiplayer, but when you play Campaign using it is almost entirely optional. You can switch to the other special attacks if you like with 1 or 2 or 3, or just not press Q. (This time since it was on PC I played it there).

[@Dontpullmycheese]

@@jimmuthedeath1215 I absolutely NEVER used vehicles in Infinites campaign because of the grapple hook.

[@n0sc0p3dpwnd9]

@@jimmuthedeath1215Grapplehooks are very hard to make work without diminishing the roles of vehicles though. Not only do flying vehicles have a lot of trouble, but you also need to think about the content limitations of campaign for example. How would they add a boss fight that was so great like Scarabs back in the day? The grapple hook single handedly would make an entire experience like that pointless. The same niche point could be argued for jet packs but it’s easier to make ways for jet packs to not be as intrusive than it would be for grapple hooks

[@agentnukaz1715]

It would be interesting to see the grappling hook work in a realistic sense. Used to scale things instead of flying, grab and disarm weapons. If u didn't know u get out of ur vehicle to counter it.

[@zero1487]

I’m only down for rebooting everything post Halo 3 (timeline-wise) Edit: I’m only down for a full reboot if Marcus Leto and Joseph Staten are leading it. If there’s any non OG bungie people above them I’m forever opposed. Thoroughly enjoyed this video

[@r0cketm00se3]

Agreed, the original trilogy was great. If we could just get the forerunner canon eradicated and continue with the obvious intention of humans being the forerunners from 3/Contact Harvest. Focus on how the Elites and Humans have to work together despite their history, and make it like the Vulcan/Human alliance but with worse blood. The beginnings of a Milky Way Federation and whatever challenges you can throw at it internally and externally would be a good future trilogy.

[@xvx_k1r1t0_xvxkillme7]

I’m not lol

[@JohnSmith-og1xq]

I agree 100%

[@avenged-khaos]

AND if they bring marty along

[@The28studio]

I mean...oppose as much as you want, its not your call bud.

[@spookubus]

If they reboot Halo we better damn well get Human forerunners like it’s supposed to be

[@flatarthur3161]

That's pretty much the reason why the Human-Covenant War started, and with it, the reason why the events in the original trilogy of games take place.

[@davidpelaez7176]

this is just not gonna happen, 343i plans to reboot Halo CE not just because they're creatively bankrupt but because they intend to establish their canon across the original trilogy as well. 343i changed so many already established facts, that both eras of Halo are just incompatible canonically. The meaning of rampancy, the origins and nature of the flood, the fact that humans were forerunner... H4 -> infinite literally cannot be considered canon when such contradictions exist. 343i already wrote way more lore than Bungie, they're not gonna give up their work, their goal is to take Bungie's work and make it their own. 343i is full of themselves, it is their culture and is not gonna change.

[@CoffeeCrowgasm]

@@davidpelaez7176 watch em start the reboot at 4 lol

[@davidpelaez7176]

@@CoffeeCrowgasm they already teased CE remake and everybody knows/ has leaked that their working on it, it's like the worst kept secret right now

[@CoffeeCrowgasm]

@@davidpelaez7176 true lol, it WOULD be funny though you gotta admit 😂

[@kobeelmallah1394]

I agree 100% about his point about Military sci-fi, it's the main reason, my friends and i gotten into it as a child was due to it being "grounded by reality" as funny as it sounds

[@joshuarodriguez5709]

I don’t want a reboot, I’d rather just have prequels

[@PackHunter117]

YES

[@zaab-yaoh9302]

Prequels...? Like fighting the inserectionists? Halo Reach was already a prequel. Any farther than that you ain't gonna be fighting Covenant.

[@jimjam7928]

​@@zaab-yaoh9302What are you talking about? Reach is set during the final years of the Covenant War. There's literally decades of time that they can build from there.

[@R1sk1t-B1sk1t]

@@zaab-yaoh9302the covenant were known long before reach, reach was not the start of the genocide the covenant would bring to humanity. Non book readers would like to know why the covenant were attacking humanity to begin with, why was it so serious when they said the covenant was on reach. What happened on onyx, harvest, etc. a reboot and prequels would be amazing. A reboot of the games not the story I think could be possible

[@treyrhodes163]

​@@zaab-yaoh9302bro read the books theyre gonna rock your world particularly contact harvest it is quite literally the greatest story in halo

[@TrainspottingVagabond]

I can agree with Hardy to a certain point. If Halo had no other choice but to be rebooted, start from 4 onwards. That's where things went wrong and have dramatically escalated since.

[@grahamindustries64]

4 is trash. The only reason people say it’s not is because 5 was even worse.

[@TrainspottingVagabond]

@@grahamindustries64 4 has some redeeming qualities to it

[@ThatGingerCuntFromTerminator2]

Infinite was already a soft reboot. Infinite also has the best campaign of the series. Zero need to reboot anything.

[@aabgjbtlfjcb]

Hardy is completely correct. Halo should be rebooted. The key insights he has are these: 1) The halo universe we now have will never be as beautiful and coherent as many possible versions we might imagine. Too much from too many different minds are there. It’s a “dish” made by people “cooking” profoundly different, and discordant, “cuisines.” Not a one of us can be as satisfied as we might otherwise be with such a mess of feelings and ideas. Any more beautiful version of Halo must begin, at least partially, anew. (I’m actually happy to start with canon after the release of Halo: Reach or after Halo 3). 2) Coherence in a creative product depends either on a singular mind, a stable group of minds in concert with one another, or by groups communicating across time by means of precisely articulation (mathematical-logic, science). Halo, not yet being precisely articulable quite like mathematically precise scientific theories, would then need to be created by one or more minds who have developed a (an evolving) creative process. This is exactly what we see with other IPs… The Halo many of us loved, myself included, died when the original creative group finally fell apart. Roughly with Halo: Reach. It is no accident that even when it’s been good since then, it has never been the same enough to pass as Halo as we individually and collectively knew it to be. I want a proper reboot. No one can take Bungie’s Halo away…I already differentiate between it and everything 343 has done to the universe anyway. Hidden Experia’s philosophy of creativity just isn’t very sophisticated…and that’s okay. But it seems to me that he’s indeed wrong about what can or should be done. Even about everything already done being “erased;” that’s just not true. Anyone could create a project and decide “this is continuous with Bungie+343 Halo;” it’s that simple.

[@Finger112]

But he did talk about the project failure on holding on things with too much baggage that he tried to save everything, but it didn't work out. Halo has alot of that now...

[@unknownvoid2321]

I get a reboot but if we’re talking change and getting rid of halo 1-Reach is something I do not agree with and I’m willing to bet if they rebooted halo and changed anything from bungies timeline with not have a good reaction lmao I want old halo back and I do think a certain type of reboot could work but a reboot without erasing all that came before especially risking the reboot and beyond being straight Garbo

[@PNarbz123]

Everyone here has been on copium for so many years, like bro just let Halo die, its been dead since Halo 4 came out. There aint no way in hell 343 or 'Halo Studios' can bring it back, they don't respect the source material and I guarantee at least 50% of the staff have not even played the original trilogy.

[@galacticspike3962]

Exactly! That’s what I’ve been saying too!

[@mattbailey7832]

This dude gives me MAJOR David Jaffe vibes in the best possible way😂 Has his opinions, and will stand by them tooth and nail. His voice even sounds the same! Great video, HiddenXperia👍🏻

[@Jclarkis]

This needs to be a weekly podcast I love this

[@2020_Visi0n]

Simply put, we will never have the Halo that we got because it was made by different people. Those people are gone now. Like your favourite cover band, any imitation will pale in comparison. BUT we COULD get something as good if not better. But it would _have_ to be different, because it's made by different people. That's the bottom line

[@zero1487]

lol I love this guy. Absolutely agree about the grappling hook logic. Always thought that was absolutely ridiculous

[@seanstrizak3654]

It's fun, but yeah, maybe make an odst game with it instead.

[@PackHunter117]

The grapple hook is cool and makes sense except when you grab onto enemies like Grunts. That mechanically wouldn’t work

[@NoOne-w4p]

The worst offense by 343 Industries is how they ignored the Covenant being dissolved. Suddenly the Elites were just back in a Covenant that wasn't supposed to exist anymore. All of the Elites were supposed to be on our side now, or at least not taking part in the war. There was never supposed to be a Covenant anymore. Banished maybe, or some sort of brute faction, but Elites were not supposed to be in it. Why on earth would they still be helping the brutes? They have no idea what they are doing with Halo and it should be taken away from them.

[@kalebeatsfloordboards9866]

I don't think you know what 343 did bc they didn't ignore the Covenant dissolving. The Covenant Remnants are entirely 343s design, and we fight them throughout halo 4 and 5. As for the Sangheili, in lore, they're experiencing a lot of social division. Only a significant portion of Sangheili are allies with Humans, many of them still resent Humans.

[@TTE.Heretic]

Hardy has the vision of what I wanted Halo to evolve more into.

[@TOTALLYsup]

After watching every behind the scenes, dev commentary, critiques, and anything else discussing Halo, I don't think anyone truly knows what Halo is. It can't be put into any category comfortably. Space opera, military focus, sci-fi drama, whatever. The minds that went into making Halo were all so unique and all the creators had their own reasons/beliefs for contributing what they did. No reboot could ever really capture what the originals were.

[@jamB2007]

I’ll always remember halo as halo from bungie. 2001-2011 is where halo existed in its peak amazing experience. I miss those days as a kid but I think what ever happened to bungie and them leaving halo or not being able to keep the IP has been one of the most devastating things ever to life. Period. If only we could see all of the old team return together to create the classic halo stories we love. A man can dream. I think if they did it would be legendary. Personally I just want another halo 3 odst experience. Exactly how it was and expanded to the best ways ever. :)

[@Finger112]

But that just isn't reality anymore, all of them have moved on now (except for Brian Jarrard it seems). As much as we love to fantasize about all of that, we have to move on, either we try to like a new way of Halo or just move onto other video game properties.

[@jamB2007]

@ yeah I know. I agree with that and have in my own way moved on but I won’t lie, a new team, a proper team, would do wonders to reimagine what we loved about the older series while still providing new and exciting experiences. We can return to a form where we can appreciate and enjoy halo. I still enjoy playing halo and love it. I think we can really bring the series ‘back’ we just need a real direction for halo

[@AlfaZero94]

I adore this conversation on so many levels. When you got into Dark Knight debates that was so great & authentic… We’ve all had those conversations & it’s often better with disagreement! But strong love for either camp. Great interview

[@stephenbrindisi4005]

Damn, I have to agree on the grappling hook. Spartans swinging around makes no god damn sense lol

[@ModernSpartan17]

You need actual military guys who are in love with the series that can give you those real like scenarios and keep it in line with military sci fi.

[@benhooper1956]

Mendicant Bias interviews the Primordial: found footage

[@relaetsecyr]

Underrated comment

[@cc-bk3tx]

Very underrated comment

[@VaneWalker]

This guys take on the Christopher Nolan "Batman" films is 100% correct

[@nolandderlugner1351]

Having someone like him reinforce my hate against 343 and frank o nothing is so good lmao

[@anomymous1286]

Based boomer. He’s 100% right. Halo was the brainchild of a group of specific artists with a specific vision. You can’t continue that vision without the artists. Halo as we knew it is ALREADY over. I can understand not wanting to let go of the lore, but the canon itself is what’s hindering the franchise to continue to persist. The after story that 343 is telling, while trying to redo the past, is just dull, retconny and restrictive. Could some genius have pulled the continuation off? Maybe. But it’s too late now. I don’t even think retconning 343 Halos and starting from 3 is a good idea. If the show must go on, and the original artists can’t come back, start from scratch. The current state of Halo is as a zombie, and there is more to be found there with the right people. My only concern would be that if the franchise could ever find those people, but I don’t have a doubt that they exist.

[@thecynicaloptimist1884]

I'm fully with Hardy on this. Reboot the series and do a fresh take on the story & the universe. A reboot doesn't "erase" anything (did the Nolan Batman movies erase the Burton ones? Did the Reeves one erase the Nolan ones? No). As Leonard Nimoy said "canon is only important to certain people because they have to cling to their knowledge of the minutiae". I feel like Halo is, in part, being suffocated by the same problem that's hamstringing virtually every major franchise, whether gaming, movies, or TV, which is the paradoxical "give us something different, but give us the same thing we've seen before". I do sympathise with Luc's point of view too though, that you can tell good stories in the pre-existing universe, but to be honest Halo's canon is just such a self-contradictory clusterfuck at this point that it makes more sense to reboot it and tell a story that isn't being dragged down by the looming shadow of 343's enormous meddling, and even Bungie's misfires to a much lesser extent. Also, before people say "well the Halo TV series was a reboot and look how that turned out" - the Halo TV series didn't suck because it was a reboot of the story. It sucked because it was poorly written.

[@MishraArtificer]

Considering Nimoy is responsible for not one, but *two* of the biggest plot points in the entire Star Trek continuity (the death and resurrection of Spock and the Vulcan/Romulan reunification), I refused to take him seriously on the subject.

[@martyfromnebraska1045]

It will suck in the modern AAA development context basically no matter what. People aren't placed in charge of these projects out of passion for a creative vision lol. He's essentially advocating that they go back to the year 2000 with different people.

[@alejandromolina7270]

It's no wonder the writing differs so drastically between Bungie's era and 343's era. Because of this one big nerd Jason Jones and, obviously, Joseph Staten.

[@WillyMacShow]

This guy is hilarious and awesome. Not afraid to speak his opinion

[@RebelDoughnut]

Rebooting is in itself a lack of creativity.

[@antifurry-fr9hj]

yes

[@GuyofPlace]

I have been playing Halo since 2001. I agree with pretty much everything Hardy said. Only thing different is I do not want a reboot or a remake. I would rather just see the original games updated to fill in cut content and expand the games on the original engines with engine updates. Something similar to Age of Empires 2 Definitive Edition and its recent expansion packs.

[@aSpacetimeAdventurer]

Superb journalism, learning something new about Bungie studios and Halo every time.

[@swagsterchief1957]

Level consultant for Halo 2 is one of the coolest things you could have in your repertoire. Say no more! Cred established!

[@terraxcvii]

>Hardy *starts talking about a middle eastern war >Xperia *uses Cod4 as background Honestly appreciate that.

[@IVolutionI]

So moral of the story he wants a soft reboot but the message I took away and hopefully people at Halo studios is they need to make their team of superstars that both love halo and its source material. Also kinda feels like we need more dude bro nerdy gamer guys making games again. People who may be rough around the edges but care about their "thing" like he mentions.

[@timh.6872]

More bluntly: let game developers be autistic again. Gamers (particularly franchise-specific fans) are weird. We are. The people that make those games have to be even weirder. That's what makes it work.

[@Hyakudeaths]

Its funny that he just described the Halo tv shows silver timeline. Thats the reboot

[@EthanRom]

I mean Silver timeline could've been fine if it wasn't so bad. If the story was genuinely good the fans would've accepted it

[@erimei8478]

EXCELLENT interview - could listen to Hardy talk for hours. The intricacies of what made the OG Halos great, and why they've now lost their way, is so interesting to me. He really nails it... 343 inherited this but they know nothing about it and will never have the right mix of creative passion to be stewards for the franchise.

[@anubis520]

Let's be real, the glory days of halo are gone. The people who built halo moved on to other projects where they didn't want to work on halo and the people who took over didn't know what made halo special. Rebooting halo is going to leave you more astray than we already are. Remaster the games for a quick cash grab and leave it be. Instead of riding the coat tails of the legendary Halo name, make a new, innovative game that would rival halo in its heyday.

[@aidenhughes5246]

First off, sick profile pic my fellow AC lover. Second, I unfortunately agree with you to a certain point. I think halo can be an amazing series again, but I think chiefs story is done, and has been done since 3. Its time for something new, some other story or character in the universe. And unfortunately, most companies seem to struggle to make anything new IP wise.

[@a.p.3192]

I onestly think that the only way for halo to coming back is with its fans People who started game developement thanks to halo and also studied what made halo great, because getting a good game design team is possible, and you can see that with modding, there are plenty of good custom levels with really great level design and sandbox balacing that feels dev made. The main problem is replacing joe, marty and mike.

[@Saiyamanmc]

halo fans are too stuck in the past. look at all the hype on the h2 e3 demo. how about a new game to get hyped on instead?

[@aidenhughes5246]

@@Saiyamanmc I agree with you, but what are we supposed to be hyped about? A season update for a dead game? We have nothing to be excited for. So until then halo fans will enjoy any new content. And right now thats the E3 demo.

[@Saiyamanmc]

@@aidenhughes5246 yeah it's kinda just a waiting game at this point. Idk just kinda hard to care about one level that isn't even part of the actual game lol

[@arbitertxh5844]

I love seeing both of your guys points with how Halo is turning compared to what it was back in the day. 10/10 vid

[@rob9999]

Love this guy. As a creative myself, what most people don't understand about how a franchise or a story is made, is the nuance and narrative structure that grounds audiences.

[@TheDooMmarin3]

I vote that they reboot everything after halo 3. Bring back the Didact but actually flesh him out and have a real boss fight. Build upon the precursors. Have the flood return, bring back Arbiter as an ally early on, no spartan Locke nonsense. No Evil Cortana.

[@grimreminder5038]

If Halo does get rebooted for this military fantasy that was talked about, I wanna see a full armored Spartan's weight thrown in properly. I'm talking dropping from the top of a mountain to punch a hole through a tank, every weighted footstep at speeds bordering DOOM level until you jump up through a second story wall/window to get the vantage over a skirmish. Like the books, some things I feel the games failed to deliver. Hardy's got some DAMN solid points, keep it grounded to the novels but expand on it visually so it meets the imagination. No more creatively bankrupt crap that's been taken from other brands, stay in your lane.

[@dangerouscellstudio]

I don't agree with everything he said, but I can agree that a total reboot with a different vision would be better than expanding the existing material. At one point it has to end (like The Walking Dead) and it's okay. So I hope Halo Studios will make a new Halo universe with its own style and designs and keep it throughout the games that will follow. And they can still take inspiration from the original games!

[@InnuendoXP]

Ok here's my case for a reboot. Think of all the concessions of scope, gameplay and storytelling the Bungie games suffered because of working with the technical limitations of the Original Xbox & lessons they hadn't learned yet. How much smaller the story & world had to be. Remember how Halo CE was supposed to be 40 levels? Imagine getting more hub-world levels like Silent Cartographer or Halo but exploring different corners of the ring all over in tons of different biomes and seeing the whole world actually transform with the flood outbreak. Imagine making other levels less linear with secret shortcuts & more hidden powerups by doing some solid exploring or trick jumps. Expanding the biomes with wildlife & natural environments. Expanding the roster of enemy & neutral faction entities. More night missions, expanded stealth mechanics. Remember the original scope of Halo 2? How it was designed with Doom3 style lighting in mind - have the flood outbreak be a horror show with a dramatic play of light and shadow. The warthog run to board the keyship. Gameplay on board the keyship! The war on Earth! Expanded city environments, more Earth biomes & sites - the Ark being on Earth as originally intended ANCIENT HUMANS STILL BEING FORERUNNER!!! - de-retcon that change which just sucked so much of the cosmic gravity out of the narrative. The themes of sin, legacy, inheritance, duty .etc What he says about James Bond is exactly right. Look how brilliantly DOOM has done with its reboot (that yes wound up making it ALL canon, multiverse-style). How it took modern mechanics from eg. The Metroid Prime series - but only because it suited & improved the experience - not to chase trends. Halo's original trilogy had a ton of unrealised potential and ideas that are ripe for a do-over IMO. It's less about whether it's a good idea or not as it's about whether Halo Studios could pull it off. Personally, I'd like to let iD have a crack if HS don't work out with the CE remake.

[@darkboltproductions1352]

personally i dont think the whole series should be rebooted, i honestly think we should just completly retcon everything that happened after halo 3.

[@PackHunter117]

Hard disagree.

[@noble00006]

Hard agree

[@PackHunter117]

@@noble00006 Halo shouldn’t get the Disney Star Wars treatment

[@Kerubu]

Retcon away the retcons, agreed. Make humans forerunners again.

[@Sahlan_Ahamed]

Disagree. We shouldn't run away from the past.

[@MrGanjie]

This dude is soooo refreshing honestly 😂 He has a point though, it's not erasing anything but the bad parts added are just gonna complicate what's already been complicated. Anybody brave enough to chat shit at the Nolan trilogy (minus Dark Knight) is strong in my books

[@magglespaffygaming]

Okay y’all might not want to hear it, but the only way we’re getting a classic level Halo game is to get a bunch of nerdy dudes in an office, remove the women and woke shit, allow them to have creative freedom, return the M rating, make Cortana hot again, and stop giving Master Chief overly emotional story lines. This is a series about war and killing killing aliens with a 7 foot tall cyborg and his hot ai girl friend.

[@greezerbob]

Thank you for keeping the fire burning, your channel has been holding up my love for the franchise for years. I'm optimistic for the future.

[@fightforaglobalfirstamendm5617]

You don't have to reboot just retcon everything after Halo 3 and Reach!

[@ThommyofThenn]

He can be good friends with a lot of the current staff and still offer feedback on the state of the series. It doesn't mean he hates them or anything and imo, it shows he has genuine passion for Halo if he has feelings about it

[@spartans2805]

Ah, finally someone who hates Frank o Connor as much as I do!

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

Why tho?

[@nikballs979]

@@jakespacepiratee3740cus he’s a meathead do your research

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

@@nikballs979proof?

[@lepaul_Official]

cant remember that enemy type. is it from Halo 5 ?

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

@@lepaul_Officialit’s not an enemy it’s a person

[@ChaosRampant666]

The thing that's important to think about using Spartans is what can they do that other UNSC special forces cannot do. Because it wouldn't make much sense to use Spartans when you can use ODSTs for a particular operation.

[@YoBoZ23]

This is gonna be a good watch

[@ChrisRayGun]

This was great, Luc.

[@SPARTANLuis067]

Ok but instead of reboots and rewrites that break canon: I think prequels in the vein of ODST. Seth during the early to mid stages of the human-covenant war (2525-2551). Some classic boots on the ground military sci-fi where you're not a green superhero and the writers can make the whole cast expendable and fresh. You could pick any planet and setting, or multiple. Not that modern 343 or Microsoft would actually approve a good idea like that tho. Remember how they turned down the ODST/Helldivers idea?

[@ClassicHaloCommentary]

Always interesting stuff. Keep it up. Great convo and insights. 💪🏻

[@MasterHall117]

15:50 Reminds me of why I loved Mass Effect so much. I love the military humor and their way of talking, bringing light to a shitty situation, being smart mouths in the heat of battle, and so on. We need more of that in Halo. Also, 27:13, Red vs Blue worked out…

[@davidthompson5991]

Halo can not survive on a story or investment front without some sort of reboot. Whether that is a full reboot, or just erasing the 343 games. Halo as a narrative has become truly unrecoverable

[@blackdog6969]

I think the biggest issue 343/HALO Studios has is they're trying to continue a story with a completely different creative DNA than it was first envisioned. By that I mean everything from the vision, thought processes, inspiration and direction etc. You see this with a lot of franchises like Star Trek and Star Wars for example. When Disney made the spin-off movies and shows, they were generally well received but as soon as they tried to continue the Skywalker saga, well we know how many people felt about that. Basically what I'm saying is the Chief's story should be put to rest so they can focus on other stories within the Halo universe.

[@sebbiebarr3886]

First off thank you and all halo KZbinrs you all make amazing content. I felt recently that I have to thank you especially. Your content has given me so many ideas for my own game including symbiotes that are flood like. Your conversations with ex members of Bungie have me excited to start on stuff I didn't really think of like music for my game. Just thank you your fellow KZbinrs and halo itself. I hope to one day be able to talk to you about it it's been something I've worked on for years now and I probably had to restart it a couple times depending on if my old phones are completely done for. Hope you have an amazing life and that this message somehow finds you. 😁❤️

[@tarps1151]

This guy gets it. No BS and didn’t tiptoe around the current situation. Halo has to do this right or not at all if they’re going to succeed.

[@TheItalianoAssassino]

Guy at the party: "I'm not a smoker" Same guy on the balcony 2,8 beers later: Thumbnail 😂

[@Meowtro]

No Way Home was the only good multiverse story...? Brother you gotta watch Into the Spider-Verse and Everything Everywhere All At Once.

[@Stuntmachine14]

Spider-Verse and Everything Everywhere All At Once are peak

[@jonathonchesbro9519]

I just feel like if you’re going to do it, put the player behind the wheel of different Spartans/ODST on missions doing specops that assist in the mission to help masterchief and allow the player to really feel each of their deaths, failures and successes.

[@joshjmilli]

I have to agree with the concept of a reboot. I was opposed to it at first, but the point he makes using Batman as a comparison immediately broadened my perspective. Sure, maybe the reboot may not be lauded as much as the old games, but at least a reboot wouldn’t canonically shit all over the original trilogy like the 343 sequels did, given that a ‘reboot’ would imply a disconnect from the previous universe. It’s also a great launchpad for new players. A reboot could invigorate a swath of new fans to check out the old games for the first time, strengthening interest in both universes simultaneously.

[@backlogbagz2753]

Man, Covenant Dance is such a spicy track. Especially in game with you traversing the swamp with marines in the rain and the flood flanking you everywhere. Atmosphere matters.

[@joshjmilli]

I would absolutely love a Halo reboot with a gritty, military sci-fi theme. Mature rating, make Spartans walking tanks again, make the Covenant absolutely terrifying. Story should start with Master Chief on Reach, fighting the Covenant in one of its cities. Imagine operating with a small squad of Marines and Sgt. Johnson in a downtown setting. Banshees flying between skyscrapers picking off civilians, avoiding Brute patrol units. We get to see the true horror of the covenant invasion in a familiar, grounded environment. Then, of course, you get on the Pillar of Autumn and experience a whole new take on Halo CE. Lean into Flood horror, make Truth and Reconciliation a better infiltration mission, make Assault on the Control Room feel more like an actual military assault. So much potential

[@wolfdragon1170]

Bloodgulch is the reason for many of the fond memories i have of the game. Thank you for having been the reason for its existance. I will say though, I wouldn’t want a reboot either. Maybe a soft one, but keep the core games before Halo 4. What I'd like most though would be spin off games. Like an ODST Flood horror, or an Arbitor exclusive, like we've all been asking for.

[@DeltaSpartan88]

heres an idea, "Halo: Anthology" a collection of levels/gameplay consisting of stories from the books. They can update it with more gameplay as more books come out. I'd like to play The Fall of Reach. The beginnings of the spartan 2s from boot camp when they were young going through training all the way up to their first and last battles as a company.and you can tell the stories of blue team, red, team, green team, and grey team through these updates. Contact Harvest would be another cool game to play.

[@Augment_Failure]

A good Halo event that compares to the Hadifa Dam example would be Spartan Red Team's defense of the ground generators for the orbital guns in The Fall of Reach novel. The situation there being, "Defend the generators from the hinge-heads at all costs, or the orbital guns go offline and we lose Reach!"

[@Sharkrapt0r]

I agree with you hidden that they could do a horror game. They could do a different game without erasing. What bungie did I’m a huge fan of the originals