The Burning of Prospero Finale: Magnus the Red vs Leman Russ (Warhammer 40K & Horus Heresy Lore)

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Oculus Imperia

Oculus Imperia

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@casketbase7750
@casketbase7750 2 жыл бұрын
I swear, the most reliable way to prompt a new Oculus upload is to be bingeing his backlog. Can he sense viewer approval through arcane means? Perhaps extended study of the Thousand Sons opens one’s mind.
@LexYeen
@LexYeen 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Inquisitor? Yes, I'd like to report some heretical thinking. Yes, this post right here. Of course, I'd be glad to speak to an official in person. One is already coming? Thank the Emperor for your diligence.
@billyelliot4141
@billyelliot4141 2 жыл бұрын
@@LexYeen 🤣👌
@casketbase7750
@casketbase7750 2 жыл бұрын
@@LexYeen The Inquisition shan’t catch me! Like the vanishing Thousand Sons, I make an untraceable retreat in a blur of red. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iF7LYpebmpeGb5Y
@piotrd.4850
@piotrd.4850 2 жыл бұрын
Hydra dominatus!
@alexmiller2089
@alexmiller2089 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I fell asleep to the entire Siege of Vraks series last night and woke up to this upload. A gift from the Emperor
@blazednlovinit
@blazednlovinit 2 жыл бұрын
Magnus sending himself and a measure of his people across the warp to a new planet. "This was perhaps the greatest psychic feat" Malcador orbiting Titan, about to send it and it's population into a pocket universe for centuries : "hold my staff"
@erik_gutierrez
@erik_gutierrez 2 жыл бұрын
Malcador's feat of banishing the moon Titan to the Warp is impressive but it is objectively more impressive that Magnus pulled all those civilians and Astartes into the warp only to bring them back out, intact at a target destination across the galaxy along with his library. Malcador basically hurled a boulder into the ocean whereas Magnus dragged a bus full of people into the tide, across the ocean, and back out to an island where they were all safe.
@Canadian_Zac
@Canadian_Zac 2 ай бұрын
​@erik_gutierrez plus Malcador did it with time, care, and preparation. He planned to do it, snd spent time to do it Magnus shunted his forces without plan, without preparation, in a moment
@jaydugger3291
@jaydugger3291 2 жыл бұрын
"I punched out one of his hearts! Why does no one remember that?"
@Mr_Bunk
@Mr_Bunk 2 жыл бұрын
Because that never happened. Except it did. Until it didn’t, right about the same time as it did, and four hours later.
@Subject_Keter
@Subject_Keter 2 жыл бұрын
I think Russ got that factoid and broke it upon Magnus then WWE his spine. That why no one remembers it.
@ArchArturo
@ArchArturo 2 жыл бұрын
Chronicler: “finally, we found a vid-recording of the battle!” The recording: 10 seconds of Event Horizon Chronicler: … Inquisitor: “well, I guess someone’s gonna work as a Servitor now”
@GalileoAV
@GalileoAV 2 жыл бұрын
"Liberate tutemet ex inferis..."
@ArchArturo
@ArchArturo 2 жыл бұрын
@@GalileoAV *Grey Knights looking intently*
@Howl-Runner
@Howl-Runner 2 жыл бұрын
I need to watch the movie again
@OculusImperia
@OculusImperia 2 жыл бұрын
You joke but I accidentally watched that movie when I was 11 and that bit scarred me so bad I didn't pick it up again until I was 21.
@ArchArturo
@ArchArturo 2 жыл бұрын
@@OculusImperia oh Damn, yeah… fortunately I did manage to avoid it that young, mostly because a cousin warned about it, and she is a big horror fan, even back then.
@sambirch5153
@sambirch5153 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is the best lore channel for any fictional universe, anywhere. I apologise Oculus for not being a patron due to the cost of living crisis making me uber hardcore on expenditure, but I did splurge on a t-shirt which I wear with pride. Ave imperator. Gloria in excelsis Terra.
@dagdamor1
@dagdamor1 2 жыл бұрын
When “Worldstar” represents the energy of a Star being brought to bear upon a World…
@ninjacom3
@ninjacom3 2 жыл бұрын
There still should be some mook waving a camera phone around at the spectacle before being scoured from existence.
@Subject_Keter
@Subject_Keter 2 жыл бұрын
Why am i picturing a Custodei holding up a Astropath to send this image to the Emperor.
@meager992
@meager992 2 жыл бұрын
@@Subject_Keter that's oddly adorable to imagine
@UGNAvalon
@UGNAvalon 2 жыл бұрын
I would imagine the first-person POV would resemble Argodaemon’s “Fun In The Sun” animation.
@ryanedgerton1982
@ryanedgerton1982 2 жыл бұрын
To quote Magnus from TTS: "I punched out one of his hearts! Why does no one remember that?!" But yes, another fantastic record and the conclusion of a most excellent lore collection!
@technosushi4986
@technosushi4986 2 жыл бұрын
The uncomfortable delivery when discussing the Changer, as if choking when merely speaking the words, was amazingly in character for loyal chronicler of the Imperium. Love all that you do Oculus, I cannot wait for the next record.
@LordCommander-ui2fw
@LordCommander-ui2fw 2 жыл бұрын
47:12-Careful there, Oculus. You've already had two nasty scrapes with the risk of corruption that even comes with speaking about you-know-what; let's not make it third times the charm. On another note, excellent work, as usual; I cannot wait for when we get to the twin tragedies of Istvaan, the Betrayal of Calth, and the three remaining Legiones Astartes sections you have yet to provide us with. And since you brought up Ahriman in this video with the potential hint of more about him, and if you are so daring as to put your mind, heart, and soul once more on the line for the Lord Regent's quest to enlighten his father's Imperium, does that mean we are going to get more extensive material on Ahzek and his fellow mortal champions of the Ruinous Powers?
@Mr_Bunk
@Mr_Bunk 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, *three* remaining legions? There's only two he hasn't done yet: the Ultramarines and the Word Bearers, and he'll get to them when he covers Calth.
@LordCommander-ui2fw
@LordCommander-ui2fw 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr_Bunk There is one he hasn’t done yet.
@Mr_Bunk
@Mr_Bunk 2 жыл бұрын
@@LordCommander-ui2fw Which one? I’ll bet you he’s already done it, unless this is some in-joke I don’t get.
@Jeremy-rp3in
@Jeremy-rp3in 2 жыл бұрын
As a thousand sons player and lover of the HH Magnus ... This along with your amazing covering of Prospero ... Was one of the saddest and most melancholy moment I have had as a fan of the HH... it really.. brought me back down to earth.v
@astro6141
@astro6141 2 жыл бұрын
I want to play thousand sons in HH but I can’t find myself to play them due to them being down and out near the beginning. Help please!
@shitlord9961
@shitlord9961 2 жыл бұрын
What a series.. It had never crossed my mind that the burning of prospero would be such an intense, apocalyptic, horrifying yet depressing part of the heresy lore. I genuinely feel kind of sad for the sheer scope of how the thousand sons were hilariously, monumentaly fucked. Watching your world and its citizens burned and butchered seemingly out of nowhere, their otherwise all-knowing primarch with no explanation or resolve and to witness your brother astartes lose themselves to madness or even worse, horrifying/ incomprehensible fates. Damn.
@thewayfarer8849
@thewayfarer8849 2 жыл бұрын
Despite being a fan of the First, and it being more likely The Lion wakes up next; I can't help but wonder at Russ's reaction to 40K most. He undergoes so much change and stimuli to totally change his outlook. He picked so many fights, swaggered about with a self-certainty but has this brilliant calculating layer beneath. It would be nice to see him *not* be led by the nose or an idiot, because logically he should be more Odin than Thor. Plays games with Malcador, swears an oath with Lion and Dorn, traveled to the Underverse and understands his true nature. Great work on this series. I'm guessing you have similar plans with Calth? Ultramarines and Word Bearer Legion videos along with it would work like this series...really excited for your take on Word Bearer tactics and the War Born. Thanks for the effort you make doing these.
@bendanielson9628
@bendanielson9628 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, it's funny you also know what two legions our boy has left, calth would be an amazing companion to the remaining legions
@AndreiGrozea
@AndreiGrozea 2 жыл бұрын
Was looking forward to this, hope you will finish the siege of vraks series too
@thewayfarer8849
@thewayfarer8849 2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting to see comments on this event as well, because let's be honest *both* Russ and Magnus were arrogant to the bone, it was practically their wyrd/doom to be led by the nose because of their exceptionalism, taking their faith and loyalty to higher ideals into accidentally downplaying the intelligence or will of others, it was not enough to be demigods but they each needed to ignore other brothers and other wise and powerful beings like Valdor. Magnus never saw the merit or intelligence of others, just as Russ never saw a will or force with merit in comparison to his own. Fabius Bile has a great musing that the tragedy of Prospero is nothing to do with people, but that Magnus let the great libraries burn. But that's the beauty of it. Prospero is a disaster in a dozen ways beyond the apparent and it echoes out across the galaxy. Nearly corrupts the White Scars, Luther uses it while giving a succession speech, Abbadon uses it to make Khayon his sorcerer, it's a beautiful tragedy.
@BioroidPilot
@BioroidPilot 2 жыл бұрын
I dont really fully agree with that take on Magnus, he strikes me as the he hears the intellect of others but he doesn't take matters just cause he is told to. Magnus wants to know why he should follow a order that makes no sense. Russ follows a order that makes no sense. They both play into this. Magnus was never told WHY he should stop by Big E, only the ignorant lies version which of course he rejected, all available info made rejecting that the only logical course. If Big E had just post Nikia took Magnus to a private chamber and explained chaos and the like to him then he had the patience and likely would have waited. But Big E is more like what you say, cannot see others as being trustworthy or intelligent enough to truly confide in. But that lack of trust is what makes corrupting Horus even possible. As for Russ? he is loyal to a literal fault, to the point that it is actually a bad thing, he got a order that was extreme, the got a new version of the order which was more extreme and made no sense. A good leader would have said "Wait..something is wrong here" and would have gone back to the Emperor to confirm the order change since it made no sense. Had he done that Horus's entire gambit would have fallen apart, but he is foolhardy in his loyalty and just acts when he should question. The true tragedy? Big E wanted his sons to obey without question, and in wanting that he caused the destruction of the webway project since what Magnus saw and needed to convey made perfect sense to defy the rules over. And he got what he wanted in Russ, a son so Loyal he will obey even a order that makes no sense...and in doing that the fool made Magnus a traitor despite him having been loyal, and caused a huge amount of losses that gave Horus a huge advantage. To me this tragedy is not Magnus being arrogant. But rather a example of how foolish Big E was in his approach of not trusting anyone but himself and Malcador. He sowed the seeds of nearly all his son's betrayals. Not saving Angron's people. Denying any glory and chance to built to Perterabo. Mishandling the council of Nikea and thus leaving Magnus ignorant of what he desperately needed to know. The list goes one. In nearly all the cases it is a instance of his fuck up leading to losing loyalty of others.
@thewayfarer8849
@thewayfarer8849 2 жыл бұрын
@@BioroidPilot I think that Magnus thought about other opinions equally as little as Russ. I see where you're coming from with the idea of questioning, but it's not even a question in Magnus' mind. Magnus never intended to follow the Edict, I doubt there was even a moment (and not one that shows up in writing) of him doing anything other than wanting to prove his merit. He was smarter, he would make his father understand by warning him and his cabals continued believing in their superior wisdom. It's arrogance to use the Allegory of the Cave and change the ending, to assume an intelligence and righteousness above your brothers and father. I'm not saying it's not merited, or that the Emperor couldn't have explained better. But frankly; he is the king and father of the Imperium. Magnus was created by him and swore to serve, and he considered as much as Lorgar did at Monarchia what the Emperor was saying. When you are warned, by the greatest psyker who ever lived in a proclamation you assumed was a direct trial of yourself (a little arrogant too, Nikea wasn't just about Magnus at all) that power corrupts and it's a living force, when you *know* you sacrificed your eye to a being you do not fully comprehend, and you claim to value the merit of wisdom and even restraint (in a great short story Magnus forbids a Fellowship studying deamonology) but not listen then you are arrogant. Arrogance is arguably the core trait of Magnus aside from his intelligence, like it is the Emperor and all the Primarchs. It's just that it's clearer in-story for him because his justified pride and his admirable power and wisdom led him to such an end. If he listened to Sanguinius and the Khan, or Ahriman, or Kalikamatus(?), or Lorgar and Perturabo (who may well have mentioned something quietly) he could have avoided a great deal. The Emperor not trusting his sons is an interesting debate, because from another view; in those cases wasn't it more a case of setting himself up by trusting his sons? He trusted his genius demigod creations not to turn on him. Angron excellent point, indisputable it's his fault. But Perturabo swore himself happily to the Emperor, and being told he was needed, being told he was indisputable and the Lord of Iron wasn't enough. He needed buttering up, and would it be so easy for the Emperor to see your loyal, mechanical son who boasted about his logic and excellence was so emotionally immature that his jealousy at Dorn would lead him to betray you, this general who killed his own sons and used conscripts, but never *publicly* or directly so much as asked for redeployment? I agree with you entirely about Russ, and think your comment is part of what makes the event great. It's entirely different perspectives. I see the Emperor being foolish to pick Russ for it, but Prospero was something done by Magnus and performed by Russ because of their egos alone. Magnus wanted his secrets and sorcery and to do as he pleased, and he did. The Emperor did not force him to disobey, to destroy his Webway Project, to capitulate by not speaking then fight, nor to forsake him for Tzeench and then reject him again at Terra. Magnus made so many choices with the confidence that he was wiser, well-intentioned, that the thralls and the deceit was acceptable losses. Exactly like Russ. That's the horrible thing about it, and I honestly think it could have been easy for the reverse to happen and Magus have destroyed Fenris for the Emperor.
@inquisitorgarza312
@inquisitorgarza312 2 жыл бұрын
The Tragedy of Magnus the Red is that while he truly wanted the best for humanity with the emergence of those individuals who could use the powers of the Warp, and sought to master these powers for the betterment of mankind, but it was arrogance that plunged him to the arms of the Chaos Gods. His arrogance came to himself believe he and his sons were able to master their powers and believed that even mortal beings could do so as well, but the truth is that the Warp is a slow corruption that affects the individuals souls without them knowing it.
@Subject_Keter
@Subject_Keter 2 жыл бұрын
Choas only wins cuz the Writer deems it so, Khrone cant even feel his legs and ironicallh the only one who seems to actually deserve a INCH of his praise is Nurgle, he actually does stuff. I swear i hate the sdog more then Mary Sues, atleast they can be something compared to the tumors pretending to "be" it all.
@drachna
@drachna 2 жыл бұрын
Well, if the Emperor had been more transparent with his sons about the dangers of the warp, I doubt the heresy, and the burning of Prospero would have occurred.
@3goats1coat
@3goats1coat 2 жыл бұрын
Most writers approach their craft with uncertainty of outcome, but determined to stay true to their characters. Not 40k.. here only the outcome is certain and if that needs an Emperor dumb as a box of rocks, so be it.
@arnikolo2916
@arnikolo2916 Жыл бұрын
@@3goats1coat I agree. If what he wanted was to conquer the galaxies ,he should have just created beings the same as the custodees but more powerful. What is the purpose of creating powerful beings if you cannot control them?
@leothesilent4789
@leothesilent4789 2 жыл бұрын
Just started a little rewatch of the prospero series perfect timing!
@johnnyblaze4053
@johnnyblaze4053 2 жыл бұрын
Knowing Russ lives behind a mask so no one but big e understands him and can control him but when it came to Magnus he treated him less than something under his nails it's like he hated him for no reason.
@blazednlovinit
@blazednlovinit 2 жыл бұрын
Malificarum...
@3goats1coat
@3goats1coat 2 жыл бұрын
Dogs hate some for no apparent reason
@hughwalker7938
@hughwalker7938 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the sense of sadness in Oculus' voice at the end there. Just this sense of "Magnus could've been great, guys. He really could."
@Supreme-Emperor-Mittens
@Supreme-Emperor-Mittens 2 жыл бұрын
Oculus Imperia. Brother Baldemort. The BEST 40K Lore Scribes on KZbin.
@BillErak
@BillErak 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, Oculus. I don't normally comment, but I found your channel about a year and a half ago and started watching your backlog slowly. I caught up a few months ago, right before the burning of prospero series started, and it must have been destiny because Magnus is my favourite primarch and this event is wonderfully tragic and why I love him so much. Every one of your videos is an experience unto itself, but this series was truly just everything I wanted. Thanks for all your hard work!
@TheSinexCN
@TheSinexCN 2 жыл бұрын
You weave so much heartfelt emotion into your narration such that you remain unrivaled & unchallenged with respect to the quality of work which you produce. Keep up the great work, brother!
@themediocremaster2388
@themediocremaster2388 2 жыл бұрын
I was just looking for something to listen to while I pass out, thanks for the upload! Your vids are great and do a lot to remind me of the tragic nature of 40k
@jfkjkshjpppppppppphsasi8669
@jfkjkshjpppppppppphsasi8669 2 жыл бұрын
You are one of the greatest KZbinrs around!
@RobouteGuilliman-M41
@RobouteGuilliman-M41 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad this is collated into a single playlist. I want to be able to refer back to this, often.
@ge9367
@ge9367 2 жыл бұрын
It is a really underrated part of the 40k history. Great work bringing it to life 👍
@TheHermeticHipster
@TheHermeticHipster 2 жыл бұрын
Oculus, I watch all you videos, and have rewatched my favs over a dozen times. Thanks for these amazing videos.
@TheHermeticHipster
@TheHermeticHipster 2 жыл бұрын
Ps. Please do more on night lords🦇... Especially my boy Sevetar.
@wellsb973
@wellsb973 2 жыл бұрын
This video was a great performance of a great script. Thank you for the amazing work that you put into writing and producing these.
@voiceofgosh
@voiceofgosh 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree, the script and performance is great, the emotion he puts out it top notch. Other "lore" channels give you the information, Oculus give you a story as well.
@Elyk111
@Elyk111 2 жыл бұрын
Another incredible chronicle, oculus doesn't miss!
@eichler721
@eichler721 2 жыл бұрын
Such a good event series. Nobody has covered the battle of Prospero so well. I still think a swap of Russ for Sanguinius or the Lion would have resulted in Magnus and his legion going to Terra instead of a battle. This would have made Horus options at treachery almost nothing and without the Emperor stuck on the Throne he could use Magnus to hold the gate while he fixed the tear and then crush Horus with Sanguinius, Lion, Khan, Guilliman, Ferrus, Vulkan, Corax and his Custodes and Imperial Household. Leaving half his Custodes, the Fists and Dorn, Russ as a watch dog for Magnus and his sons on Terra.
@AIartificalIntellige
@AIartificalIntellige 2 жыл бұрын
Hell, The Emperor should have given overall command to Valdor, instead of his angsty furry son. All the shite could have been avoided.
@eichler721
@eichler721 2 жыл бұрын
@@AIartificalIntellige exactly he sent one of the ones who hated Magnus to bring him in. That's a bad idea on every level.
@TheHelloMiko
@TheHelloMiko 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to the Ordo Sinister Psi Titans? I seem to remember Valdor was thinking about deploying them but as they had... wandered off(?)... he had to go with the null maidens.
@connordimaggio5908
@connordimaggio5908 2 жыл бұрын
WOW. Just wow. This is so, so good. Perhaps Oculus should write the final Seige of Terra Book! Bravo, sir. You've earned a happy new Patreon. Keep it up, please, Emperor Bless you.
@Subject_Keter
@Subject_Keter 2 жыл бұрын
If there was a way to get Arch to do the narration and Oculus to do the in lore combing it over, would make the Book perfect. Arch made Vraks siegemode sillyness interesting.
@jwb_666
@jwb_666 2 жыл бұрын
10 seconds in liked and commenting Oculus you are a blessing upon reality stay strong stay groovy
@anotherzingbo
@anotherzingbo 2 жыл бұрын
This series has done a great job of covering not just the events of the Burning of Prospero but also the tragedy of it and the great shadow it has cast over the Warhammer 40,000 setting. Bravo!
@GhostOfSnuffles
@GhostOfSnuffles 2 жыл бұрын
Russ was more a puppet of Chaos undivided then he ever was a loyal servant of the Emperor. Everything from the wanton slaughter of civilians on Prospero which fueled the warp to the codex Omega he handed over the Horus, everything he did was to the opposite benefit of mankind when viewed in hindsight.
@bruce9371
@bruce9371 2 жыл бұрын
So glad I took the plunge and committed to a listen. Great content
@tonypecoraro9220
@tonypecoraro9220 2 жыл бұрын
I always love your historical accounts Oculus because you clearly go to great lengths to present things from a perspective within the 40k universe. Leaving things IRL fans 'know' from the books uncertain in your chronicles is just one example of many, you also take the time to explain the vested interests of involved parties in detail and how their accounts are distorted by those interests. In short, you are out-doing many (if not most) real world historians who either cannot or choose not to account for their own biases in their chronicles! For that you have my admiration, please keep up the good work!
@tonypecoraro9220
@tonypecoraro9220 2 жыл бұрын
And if you ever want to cameo in a Deathwatch campaign... let me know!
@drachna
@drachna 2 жыл бұрын
The duplicate Thousand Sons theory is very interesting, but I wonder if Magnus didn't reach out to Tzeentch, become a Daemon Prince in return for the extra power, and then teleport them with Tzeentch's aid, rather than duplicating them.
@l33t9r0u93
@l33t9r0u93 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's more a reference to the Rubricae than anything else
@FoundingChambers
@FoundingChambers 2 жыл бұрын
Better entertainment then anything I can find on Disney plus. Thanks for always dipping into the 40k verse in such a way that does it grim justice and providing quality enjoyable content. So glad I found you on KZbin, it was the pilgrimage to Terra that first got me. Now I wait eagerly for each installment as an aspiring acolyte waits for any morsel of lore and knowledge passed down from the more learned and enlightened...
@robertmurray7279
@robertmurray7279 2 жыл бұрын
Idk if this beats out Bob's Burgers
@Subject_Keter
@Subject_Keter 2 жыл бұрын
I swear the Imperial Fist bit with them dealing with the silience pysker threat is way better then most horror movies.
@BecomeHeroes
@BecomeHeroes 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible content. The quality is absolutely staggering.
@cxfxcdude
@cxfxcdude 2 жыл бұрын
Magnificent work as always Oculus :) i hope you’re enjoying a well earned reprieve from all stress :)
@KarlRosner
@KarlRosner 2 жыл бұрын
Not only did Russ get tricked into destroying a loyal legion he also wrote the book on how to kill marines and gave it to Hours!
@blazednlovinit
@blazednlovinit 2 жыл бұрын
The Hours Heresy
@l33t9r0u93
@l33t9r0u93 2 жыл бұрын
@@blazednlovinit ironically lasted minutes but hey
@theviewerofthegolden270
@theviewerofthegolden270 2 жыл бұрын
That shudder when mentioning the Changer of Ways... goosebumps!
@barrylucas3830
@barrylucas3830 2 жыл бұрын
wonderful this may be the best collection of drawings so far
@owenparris7490
@owenparris7490 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta say, I love that some of the remaining Thousand Sons endeavored to help civilians. Humanity doesn't deserve them. The Space Wolves and Sons of Horus are a disgrace, the Imperium failed it's people, and the Emperor is a callous tyrant. Thank you for coming to my heretical TED Talk.
@GhostOfSnuffles
@GhostOfSnuffles 2 жыл бұрын
Please report for servator conversion.
@owenparris7490
@owenparris7490 2 жыл бұрын
@@GhostOfSnuffles Oh sh--
@nickbaspaly6239
@nickbaspaly6239 2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this brother! Thank you kindly!
@Subject_Keter
@Subject_Keter 2 жыл бұрын
I like the description of how the Warp covered Prospero and it just warps and twists everything.
@XinMgu
@XinMgu 2 жыл бұрын
I dont follow Warhammer 40k too deeply, but as a scholar I could barely choke down reading this horrific burning of this city of knowledge, even if Occlus is reading it. May Magnus the Red find his vengeance one day.
@blazednlovinit
@blazednlovinit 2 жыл бұрын
Great Library of Alexandria, in space, on steroids.
@beardwierd2783
@beardwierd2783 2 жыл бұрын
Sitting on a balcony enjoying warm weather, a cold beer and oculus. Pure bliss.
@Synthonym
@Synthonym 2 жыл бұрын
I find the tale of the Thousand Sons and Magnus to be the Imperium's greatest tragedy. A loyal legion, set upon by liars, traitors and hypocrites, a planet burned for no good reason, and a Primarch who, while misguided and fallible, remained loyal right up until the point where the executioner came for him. Had Prospero not burned, I doubt the Legion would have fallen to Chaos at all
@ploo0op
@ploo0op 2 жыл бұрын
Really good video. You keep getting better and better.
@laencleardale
@laencleardale 2 жыл бұрын
As always, bravo. Bravo. Truly impressive, educational, and entertaining.
@leopoldjenkins
@leopoldjenkins Жыл бұрын
This series was nothing short of magisterial.
@chrisbullock3504
@chrisbullock3504 2 жыл бұрын
Was having such a shit day at work and had to stay 3 hrs late… get in the truck to go home and see this pop up… complete 180 of my mood.
@GXStream
@GXStream 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing this video on my feed legit made my bad day much better.
@ThisisnotTwitter
@ThisisnotTwitter 2 жыл бұрын
At the start of this series, it is stated that Horus was ofcourse informed, now at the end in this episode, it says it was orchestrated entirely without him knowing... Also I heard from other lore channels that it was thought that Horus was the one who changed the order from retrieve Magnus to wipe out the chapter/ sieze by any means necessary. Classic 40k to be contradictive and unsure as to what really happened.
@octavius32a64
@octavius32a64 2 жыл бұрын
amazing work as always!
@bodricthered
@bodricthered 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes!!! One of my top moments of the lore
@lordfrostwind3151
@lordfrostwind3151 2 жыл бұрын
That last theory could drastically change the context of the Emperor and Magnus's final confrontation on Terra. The legion except for Ahriman were already gone, souls consumed by Tzeentch, and what Magnus was holding onto was the memory of his sons, now truly lost beyond any help from the Emperor or Magnus.
@Subject_Keter
@Subject_Keter 2 жыл бұрын
Magnus is like: Everything will be Broken to my Will! Lemon Russ: A Lemon is a Mighty Fruit.
@thomashipp7910
@thomashipp7910 2 жыл бұрын
Why is Russ quoting Lord Adornable
@Subject_Keter
@Subject_Keter 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomashipp7910 Cuz it funny and I can totally see that happening.
@jordcarter2359
@jordcarter2359 Жыл бұрын
After the warp storm and Magnus disappearance, imagine the sheer disappointment of those thousand sons left behind..
@hayescharles45
@hayescharles45 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this series
@Lammergeier350
@Lammergeier350 2 жыл бұрын
Made it before I even got the notification. I think I forgot to appease my machine spirit this day. Honor to the Oculus. Scientia potentia est.
@ledzep215
@ledzep215 2 жыл бұрын
Final Reminder: Magnus did nothing wrong :3 Thank you for this series Oculus!
@boydsinclair7606
@boydsinclair7606 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing? Not one folly? 😕
@ledzep215
@ledzep215 2 жыл бұрын
@@boydsinclair7606 Nope :3
@boydsinclair7606
@boydsinclair7606 2 жыл бұрын
@@ledzep215 tell me about the Imperial Webway Project 😐
@screwb1882
@screwb1882 2 жыл бұрын
@@boydsinclair7606 That was the Emp's fault. Magnus could not have possibly took that into account.
@Gitskreig
@Gitskreig 2 жыл бұрын
@@boydsinclair7606 Yes, because it is completely the fault of the person being kept out of the loop that they don't know about something.
@krimzonstriker7534
@krimzonstriker7534 2 жыл бұрын
Onwards to the Heresy Proper with the final two legions and the rest of Lorgar's Pilgrimage to hopefully follow ;)
@lilpretzel5629
@lilpretzel5629 2 жыл бұрын
I see a Magnus related video i click 💜
@vontheunknown7982
@vontheunknown7982 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was weird that some chapters don't know who there Primarchs are, with the blood Raven heroes even talking about it in dawn of War 2, what do you guys think?
@XCRunningMan95
@XCRunningMan95 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think 23 & me made it into the 41st century, or Maury for that matter, so it's harder to find out paternity issues. I think it's either the incalculable size of the Administratum lost those records due to its inefficiencies, or loyalist sections of traitor legions formed a few second founding chapters with "lost records" and they were just watched very closely by the inquisition over the millennia
@vontheunknown7982
@vontheunknown7982 2 жыл бұрын
@@XCRunningMan95 Yeah, that kind of makes sense.🤔
@thewayfarer8849
@thewayfarer8849 2 жыл бұрын
Some things get lost, but often it's most beneficial to hide something. Take Iron Warriors...better loyalists than traitors, telling the Silver Skulls/Minotaurs/Scythes of the Emperor the truth and you detract from their ability and independence (IOM hilariously cares more than Pert). Blood Ravens are a mystery with more potency unexplained. Does it matter so much who their Primarch is? Magnus, Corax, the best thing about them is their personality (remaining loyal or turning) and their own culture. The Chapter rock because it's not a retread of the First Founding. You have the heavy psyker aspect, the Gabriel aspect and the alliances they make. I think the DOW III trailer shows Blood Ravens as so *Imperial* that tying them to a Primarch would steal their spotlight.
@BurningFyre
@BurningFyre 2 жыл бұрын
The Administratum and Inqusition burned so many records its impossible to know who or why about a lot of things. Which is to say, its meant to be open ended because a fully fillled out story just becomes an event log eventually and those are boring.
@paulbotelho3997
@paulbotelho3997 9 ай бұрын
Such a great channel.
@10thCompanyCaptain
@10thCompanyCaptain 2 жыл бұрын
Let's goooooo. time to break magnus' back and get our heart punched out :P
@scoopinloops8828
@scoopinloops8828 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Can’t wait to hear the record of istvaan
@ravager2-636
@ravager2-636 2 жыл бұрын
Magnus using the psychic prosperin elbow then getting wrecked
@BeepBoopFriendo
@BeepBoopFriendo 2 жыл бұрын
Great as always.
@Howl-Runner
@Howl-Runner 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this really inspires me to create an all first born army of surviving thousand sons who made it through order 66, non chaos, non imperial, totally pissed.
@blazednlovinit
@blazednlovinit 2 жыл бұрын
*Moves mind into the 9th enumeration*
@davebowman9000
@davebowman9000 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your wonderful work! Can't wait for what's next! (Whatever that is. My chronology of the Heresy is a bit fuzzy. It should be Sanguinius fighting Khorne and the Blood Angels getting the Red Thrist, right?)
@commissaryarrick9670
@commissaryarrick9670 2 жыл бұрын
They really put up a great fight with the odds stacked against them
@seanferrell9244
@seanferrell9244 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mattd.5254
@mattd.5254 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to me what he's talking about at 48:00? The Thousands Sons aren't real? Ahriman was the only survivor of the burning? The rest are warp entities or something?
@Subject_Keter
@Subject_Keter 2 жыл бұрын
Some think Ahriman was chosen to be Tzeentech Champion and the rest were consumed and now serve the Tzeentech as their numbers were bolstered. I am not sure, never heard that idea before seems like what someone would think after finding a rubicon marine armor cracked open and dust pouring out.
@frankdagrank2423
@frankdagrank2423 2 жыл бұрын
My loins quiver at every new video
@Blazerwolf666
@Blazerwolf666 2 жыл бұрын
... are they frothing?
@frankdagrank2423
@frankdagrank2423 2 жыл бұрын
@@Blazerwolf666 oh most definitely. I am even squealing
@LexYeen
@LexYeen 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankdagrank2423 You should probably see a priest about that.
@IW-44
@IW-44 2 жыл бұрын
So fascinating to listen to these. Can we get one about the Grey Knights or Tempestus Scions??
@Kp1c0351
@Kp1c0351 2 жыл бұрын
Just what I needed today. I'm sick in bed and was bored to tears.
@michaelhowell2326
@michaelhowell2326 2 жыл бұрын
I had no clue that anyone other than the Thousand Sons were swept up in the storm that spirited them away.
@davebowman9000
@davebowman9000 2 жыл бұрын
Magnus, eavesdropping: "I punched out one of his hearts! Why does no one remember that?!"
@irondarknessdarkness8900
@irondarknessdarkness8900 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Oculus
@simonjackson1571
@simonjackson1571 2 жыл бұрын
Masterful as ever.
@MrLookatmyhat
@MrLookatmyhat 2 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered if Magnus was really the one to make a deal with Chaos. That he perhaps had been made an offer, rejected it to fight Russ and in so losing the battle one of his sons made the deal in desperation; betraying Magnus. Guess we'll never know for sure.
@Subject_Keter
@Subject_Keter 2 жыл бұрын
I think when Mags made his deal to bust through Emperor psi wall, it was in the "contract" persay to claim Magnus truly.
@theodoreganymede2095
@theodoreganymede2095 2 жыл бұрын
Did I miss what happened to Psi Titans of the Ordo Sinister ?
@sheevpalpatine2128
@sheevpalpatine2128 2 жыл бұрын
Its a small thing but big to me thanks for including maps, i love maps 🙃😄 i dont think theres a name for my condition yet lol
@piotrd.4850
@piotrd.4850 2 жыл бұрын
Censure Host: specificially tailored task force where BASIC unit was FULL Astartes legion with additional exterminatus grade weapon. Having as second in command Captain General of Imperium's most experienced force EVER. Gets worn, bogged down and almost fought to the stalemate by single legion and unprepared auxilia of loyal imperial citizens. Censured force ultimately escapes, albeit with heavy looses. Really.... Guiliman would have done better job.
@Lorendrawn
@Lorendrawn 2 жыл бұрын
Never forget what GW did to TTS. I will never forgive them.
@SCP-49668
@SCP-49668 2 жыл бұрын
Why do i see Oculus narrating this with a lho stick in his fingers? Smoking his way through his tales as he needs to keep him sane and calm while reading texts and datataps from cogitator banks of indescribable horrors.
@LexYeen
@LexYeen 2 жыл бұрын
With a dedicated ashtray and air-filter servo-skull, because both ash and smoke can damage records.
@ericdraven8837
@ericdraven8837 2 жыл бұрын
I was expecting for this with so much anticiparion
@NIL0S
@NIL0S 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@blazednlovinit
@blazednlovinit 2 жыл бұрын
Anticiparion: A good name for a dragon with foresight
@frankcz7672
@frankcz7672 2 жыл бұрын
This guy ladies and gentlemen... This oculus guy...
@invadervim9037
@invadervim9037 2 жыл бұрын
By the throne, how is your content so good?
@flaxtube322
@flaxtube322 2 жыл бұрын
Hail, Lord Russ. Ave Imperator. Belatedly, Thank you, Oculus.
@blazednlovinit
@blazednlovinit 2 жыл бұрын
Lord Russ, the warmaster's loyal dog..
@bodricthered
@bodricthered 2 жыл бұрын
Lord Russ, who threw away a loyal legion and brother needlessly
@blazednlovinit
@blazednlovinit 2 жыл бұрын
@@bodricthered "A-woooooo"
@WilliamnotW
@WilliamnotW 2 жыл бұрын
33:45 Perhaps they became the Blood Ravens...
@raycearcher5794
@raycearcher5794 2 жыл бұрын
Leman Russ dictating a book titled "How to Beat Up Nerds" to his scribes
@drgonzo305
@drgonzo305 2 жыл бұрын
Well I guess it could have gone worse, all things considered
@matthewwheelden9263
@matthewwheelden9263 2 жыл бұрын
Get real Execute Order 66 vibes while the description of what happened to the other fleets and units. Malcador siting in his chair sending encrypted data steams and hearing "It will be done my lord." Dozens of times over as the only responses.
@ChoonMa
@ChoonMa 2 жыл бұрын
Crap! Noooo! I'm still working, Oculus! I can't listen while I work!
@NIL0S
@NIL0S 2 жыл бұрын
All hail the Oculus ~~
@KillerOrca
@KillerOrca 2 жыл бұрын
While there are deep and intense reasons and lore backing for why Leman would undeniably be the victor, and long reams of information to support why, I feel the reason for his eventual victory over Magnus can be summed up in a single sentence; Football jock vs computer science nerd. Simple as it may be, it still serves the purpose.
@Subject_Keter
@Subject_Keter 2 жыл бұрын
Feels cheap and wouldnt even be mad if Khrone hampered Magnus so Tzeentch could claim his Action Figure. Magnus only loses due to Anti Pysker defenses being wiped out or a stronger pysker, it "works" but it strange like how Russ feels guilty DESPITE literally loving massarcing anything that moved on thecsurface.
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