The Case of Melissa Lucio

[@Alexander0888]

Joe I can honestly say in the last 10 years, you have made me laugh, cry, appreciate new subjects, etc and it has been an amazing journey seeing this podcast grow. From fleshlights to butcher box, I appreciate all of the down to earth, silly ass conversations and can’t wait for many more. I’m standing by you Joe!!!

[@josephmull2158]

You may have a problem lol

[@jayboi7565]

Damn 61 likes in 16 minutes

[@CK-id9tr]

We all do, unless ur a troll or Russian bot.

[@NewNormalWorldOrder]

LMFAO… just wait until you watch Matthew North’s content exposing Joe Rogaine… just wait until you finally find out he is 100% a controlled asset of the system itself. Yeah. Yeah… tell me more about how you believe “just anybody” can have “the most influential podcast in the world” without being a shill of the system…

[@daveBit15]

@@jayboi7565 "Damn 61 likes in 16 minutes" Shhh... You're gonna make KZbin get rid of the "likes" too...

[@jsmc247]

I lost all respect for the guy the moment he admitted to not having any knowledge on the details of the case. How do u go through that entire soapbox monologue like that and then admit to not doing your own due diligence?

[@RareBreed4246]

Dude is a joke lol I came to the comments as soon as I heard him say that

[@Jesusisyhvh1]

Joe Rogan is the man

[@mrjesuschrist2u]

Lol exactly then he was bitching about 98% conviction rate. Its like bro are you advocating for the prosecution of innocent people?

[@DocBrewskie]

Yep, when he didn’t know how the kids died is when he lost me.

[@valueds]

Lol thought that too

[@nuclearwinter391]

'There's no evidence of physical abuse whatsoever.' Except the untreated broken arm, bruises, and signs of a serious head injury. I can't take this guy serious if he doesn't mention this.

[@archimmes]

I mean, he is citing a case from Innocent Project, notorious frauds behind Robert Reed, Pervis Payne, etc.

[@ebg3624]

Thank you

[@thomascasey8171]

So basically they are trying to get get this child murderer off because of being abused herself as a child. You murder your kid you pay the consequences.

[@dickfitswell3437]

Plus he needs a mint or something. I bet Joe was smelling some stank breath from his dry slushy sounding mouth

[@jgarfunkle]

I want ppl to see the details for themselves. Also I dont know enough about the details to get behind something like this 🤣

[@janvincent497]

I've never seeing someone so easily gloss over baby murder and try to paint the person accused of it in such a good light.

[@Charlie_Rowe]

Then go look at the other cases they "championed". Kevin Cooper, Julius Jones, Crystal Keyzer. All guilty as hell, with evidence to prove it but, "America is racist so let them out and give us money."

[@thelord3561]

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[@thelord3561]

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[@thelord3561]

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[@TriggerzMcKnickersShow]

I'm so fed up with the "had a terrible upbringing" argument, where I'm supposed to have more empathy for the criminal, than his/her victims because of this.

[@leipersgreen6763]

Yeah, especially when the child was beaten!!!! Notice how he's talking about EVERYTHING but the case!

[@jessemccord1878]

Yeah, I'm thinking her upbringing was a cakewalk compared to what her daughter apparently went thru.

[@DaRealKing303]

Only if their black lol

[@AWOL401]

I did a Google search on Ms. Lucio. His claim that there was “no physical evidence of abuse” isn’t accurate. She doesn’t seem innocent to me.

[@nuclearwinter391]

Yes, this guy is a total fraud. The kid had an untreated broken arm, bruises, and signs of a serious head injury. He flatout lies about this. Maybe it happened differently, but you cannot lie about this.

[@mattk8810]

“The condition of Mariah’s body indicated that she had been severely beaten. There were bruises in various states of healing covering her body, there were bite marks on her back, one of her arms had been broken probably about 2 to 7 weeks prior to her death and she was missing portions of her hair where it had been pulled out by the roots. Her autopsy revealed bruised kidneys, a bruised spinal cord and bruised lungs. The emergency room physician testing that this was the ‘absolute worst’ case of child abuse that he had seen in his 30 years of practice.”

[@nuclearwinter391]

@Chucky Lives many did the same probably. My bullshit alarm went off after 10 - 20 sec and I wanted to read about the evidence first.

[@stufoo]

Lost me when he said SHE KILLED HER KID. what excuse is there for that? Ever?

[@MP-tj5xv]

@@nuclearwinter391 Is not false, I read into it too. The rest of her 14 children did not have any signs of neglect. Lucio herself had called 911 because the child in question had fallen down the stairs.

[@Mixamaka]

I didn't know it was possible to know less about something you didn't know about, but here we are. He talked about everything, but the case. He has the nerves to ask people to contribute to the cause, then when asked about the case say we should do our own research. My scamometer is going crazy right now.

[@evanpeterson8634]

Same and he was basically saying, “my friends did a ton of research and stuff, so I believe them and you should too”

[@dontcare7086]

Read the comments cause a lot of ppl are posting facts about the case. The child had a broken arm from 2 weeks prior to its death, had hair ripped out of its skull, had bites on its neck, and other injuries not consistent with a fall. She had 14 kids, 7 had to be taken away by cps. They were born addicted to drugs cause she used well pregnant. He has a lot of nerve not bringing up these super important facts and the autopsy report that proves abuse went on before the child died. I lost all respect for him after this. The audacity he has to pretend he doesn't know this and ask for money to help a drug addict child abuser who using the autopsy report basically proves she killed it. F*** this guy he just ruined his credibility in less than 20 mins.

[@manbearpig710]

@@evanpeterson8634 isn’t that what people on either side actually do? Like were any of us actually there? Don’t trust anything without seeing stuff first hand. No hear say

[@devosegal]

This exact same guy was on Joe Rogan before and acknowledge that Kamala Harris had knowingly kept innocent people in prison... This guy's life's work is fighting against people like her... And yet he still said the Harris Biden ticket has his vote because he has a severe case of orange man bad syndrome

[@mattcy6591]

Do your own research so I can listen to your research so I don't have to do my own research.

[@skeetlejuice522]

Understanding why she admitted to killing her kid and then took it back it's not hard to understand she admitting to kill her kid because she did and she took it back because some scumbag lawyer convinced her that she could get away with it

[@lolipedofin]

She never admitted to killing. Only that she has spanked her before.

[@skeetlejuice522]

@@lolipedofin nope

[@skeetlejuice522]

@@lolipedofin stop watching documentaries funded by liberal people who fund them

[@lolipedofin]

@@skeetlejuice522 Nope

[@lolipedofin]

@@skeetlejuice522 Stop listening to brainmelting hatred drivel.

[@unapolagetic]

"Forty-three-year-old Melissa Elizabeth Lucio was convicted of killing her daughter, Mariah, in 2007. The woman told authorities the child had fallen down some stairs but emergency room physicians found she had bruises covering her body, bite marks on her back, an arm that had been broken weeks earlier and was missing hair that had been pulled by the roots from her head. An autopsy showed the girl had been beaten on her head and the injuries were not caused by a fall down some stairs." - Associated Press September 16, 2011 This is a man looking for a cause so he can play the savior.

[@billbillson5082]

Seriously.. like how much more evidence is needed against her. Matching bite marks from the mouth.. Yea not typically something that happens to a person why they fall down stairs.

[@deelowe3]

@@billbillson5082 Bitemark forensics and blood spatter analysis have been thoroughly debunked. I still think this woman is guilty but don't believe the bite mark shit if you're ever on a jury. It's complete junk science.

[@brendondowdy5651]

@@billbillson5082 I agree with the sentiment but people are somewhat missing what he said. In the full podcast he says he doesnt know hardly anything about the case. Also bite science has been proven to be junk science that's complete bs.

[@UncleRicoOSU]

So you did a google search and read what the associated press said and that’s it? Case closed? I’m not saying she’s innocent, but the whole point in cases of wrongful conviction is that the “evidence” ends up being flawed or inaccurate. Of course if you just do a google search you’re going to see the accepted narrative. Thank god there’s actual attorneys who spend hundreds of hours digging through the case and don’t just say “well google says she’s guilty so she must be” 🙄

[@deelowe3]

@@UncleRicoOSU The only evidence that exists is evidence against her. She had tons of kids, multiple instances of DFCS getting involved, a major issue with drug abuse, she was a prostitute, the child in question had bite marks, a broken arm that had been neglected for over a week, and a major injury to it's head. Given all of this evidence, we're supposed to believe this yahoo on Rogan who can't even get the cause of death correct because he gave a sob story about her childhood? The child wasn't strangled at all. In Melissa's own words, the cause of death was the child falling down the stairs (which isn't supported by the pathology report which stated the child was struck on the head). I had a tough childhood as well. Does that mean I should be able to neglect my kids as well? The more I read up on the innocent project, the more I see stuff like this. They are not a credible group in my opinion and I say this as someone who is completely opposed to the death penalty.

[@oldboarbrain]

Guest lost me when he couldn't remember what exactly she was accused of doing. 8 minutes on the complex psychology and the putting yourself in her shoes, then had difficulty recalling the concrete accusation. Wtf?

[@radagast7200]

It's all about feels. They believe that all people are perfectly equal, so they have to pretend that it was the circumstances around the person that was the issue, and not the character of the person in question. Their solution, by the way, is always the same... your money.

[@2chows1dude]

Thanks. Same boat If you’re gonna advocate for something you better know the details

[@Caspaah151]

Indeed... 10 minutes of rambling but doesnt know the Facts... Appalling person tbh..

[@alejandronopasanada5302]

I had to go google it about 3 minutes in because I couldn’t take it.

[@waleeddandan]

Yeah he literally has no idea how the kid was murdered. Like what are you defending bro?

[@orgonelifesupport]

Sure would be useful if he knew the details of the thing he’s advocating for when discussing it on the worlds most popular podcast.

[@MrBLAA]

The “innocence project” collected $21 MILLION… last year. These people are grifters

[@rkaye2009]

@@MrBLAA exactly! Why bother researching the case... just half ass it and IP will pay you the same... if I was a soulless dead eyed sociopath like that guy I would do the same

[@Charlie_Rowe]

Please. Why do you think his first phrase was essentially "Go to Innocence Project and donate". It's a hussle. They made $21 million last year advocating for murderers like Julius Jones and Kevin Cooper. #JusticeForPaulHowell

[@thelord3561]

1 Corinthians Chapter 15 Is The Ressurrection Creed Thatt Paul Had Received Only 3-5 Years After Jesus Crucifiction And Had It Written 20 Years Later In A.D 54-55 And Jesus Went On The Cross At A.D 30 Also The Tel Dan Inscription States The House Of David On It And The Moabite Stone Records Mesha Just Like The Bible Worshipping Yahweh The Pool Of Siloam When Jesus Heals The Guy Is Also A Real Place And The Book Of Acts Gets The Environment Of The First Century Correct Which Myths Do Not Do It States Drusilla And Felix Got Married While Josephus The Jewish Historian Records The Same Thing And Believing In The Jesus Of The Bible And Christianity We Are Saved By Grace Not Of Ourselves It Is The Free Gift Of God By Repenting And Putting On The Lord Jesus Christ While Jehovah Witness And Mormonism Do Not Think They Are Saved And Are Earning Salvation To Get It However The Biblical Jesus Is The Only Way And Its Not About Achieving It Rather It Is More Like Receiving Christ To Be Saved In Him And Your Works Are The Fruit Of Your Salvation Amen And 2 Timothy 4:11 States Bring The Cloak I Left At Carpus Indicating It Was Authentic And Jesus Is More Worth It For Everlasting Life And Gary Habermas Has The Greatest Case For The Ressurection And Dr. James Tour On KZbin Also Shows The Reasons It Wasnt An Accident God Bless Jesus Is Lord Five Scientific Reasons To Believe In God kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqW2iayoet-LqZY The Case For Design kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJ2bYWWifaaea7s Jesus And His Ressurection Video kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2HMdYGCrdKKjK8 Gary Habermas On Jesus kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6rCdZVqh9yNla8 The Reliability Of The New Testamentt inspiringphilosophy.org/defending-christianity/

[@thelord3561]

#JESUS FIRSTt For By Jesus All Things Are Created I'm Here For The News Of The Kingdom Of God And While Religion Has You Doing Good Deeds To Earn Salvation The Biblical Jesus Died And Rose Again For The Forgiveness Of Sin And By Grace You Are Saved So You Walk In Him For He Loved Us So We Love The Lord

[@evannunsince9357]

I have a hard time taking seriously someone who admits he doesn't know any real details about a case.

[@evannunsince9357]

@@gentlemenrule3260 Unlike this tool, Im not spouting off my theories on the biggest platform in the world without having done any actual research, dum-dum.

[@httr94]

How does he not know how the kid died or what the woman was specifically accused of doing? Lost me as soon as he said that.

[@fortusvictus8297]

He is a lawyer first and formost. He knows very well because a 2-minute googlefu routine will show it all. She is guilty as hell.

[@pattydella4]

Exactly!

[@buttercup3ish]

big time..how can you talk of this women and not know the basic facts to convey..yikes

[@patrickomann3580]

Hell yeah

[@justinm2697]

You think he doesn't know? He knows. He just doesn't to say it. The question is why. Because he wants to use this woman's pity story to elicit sympathy for her. Don't think about what she did, think about her terrible childhood bla bla bla.

[@anthonymartini7064]

I feel like he should know what she was accused of and how the child actually died. Those two things won’t sway people to just follow blindly. He honestly sounds like he is following blindly because his friends have done the due diligence of following the case.

[@whippedwebbie]

If you didn’t know by now every interview is babble to push an agenda. So this one would be let murderers out of prison.

[@dra-j9n2015]

This dude the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen. He is a joke.

[@178fluffy]

@@whippedwebbie murderers

[@jm215x4]

Oh yeah the cops could never do anything wrong to coax a false confession 🙄

[@turtlepowersf]

He's following blindly because his friend's are also following blindly.....nobody does their due diligence

[@fortusvictus8297]

Don't look this one up, it will make you sick. The TL;dr of it is she is very very very much guilty not of a single incident, but a history of physical assault and abuse against the girl. This guy is the worst kind of lawyer, willing to conflate other cases and straight up lie by omission to get his client off.

[@ab935]

She could not have possibly had control over all those kids, they could have been beating each other up. Glad she's locked up and not making more.

[@jonnygranville281]

It's so sad and just awful

[@nayrzepol1592]

Thank you

[@MrStrife622]

Agreed, My favorite part is that he was so poetically saying how we need to understand the experience she has had. And is so thorough and explaining to us how we should feel. But as soon as Joe asks about the circumstances around the case, he stops and says he wants people to make up their own decision. Like what the fuck. Lol super red flag when I heard that.

[@davegaught7590]

Yeah this guy I don’t know what it is but he’s not being honest about something. Definitely putting off a weird vibe.

[@thebubonicj]

‘No signs of abuse’? The medical examiner literally said it was the worst case of child abuse she’s ever seen.

[@NEWLILLYHOT]

Medical examiners have been found to be wrong sometimes

[@Ophanim1000]

@@NEWLILLYHOT You think you know better than a specialist that has seen 100s or 1000s of cases and has been doing autopsies for years if not decades.

[@TravelsTTG]

And you have seen the evidence?

[@johnb.shakoor2352]

​@NEWLILLYHOT wrong about it being the worst case of child abuse they've seen? I find it hard to believe that there was no physical abuse when the examiner goes to the point of saying it's the worst they've seen. I believe fully that there was abuse there.

[@nortonsnale5968]

I read about the case. The little girl had teeth marks on her, had her vagina pinched, and also was running around with an untreated broken arm. This guy has his own perspective, and isn't going to give you all the facts.

[@badabing2302]

What kind of break ? I had a broken arm from rugby and i didn’t know it was broken until I had a doctor check me out before our trip to England to play against guys we knew were going to destroy us and because of the arm I couldn’t go, or couldn’t play anyways.

[@ab935]

She could not have possibly had control over all those kids, they could have been beating each other up. Glad she's locked up and not making more.

[@WheatSupreme]

@@ab935 AB giving life advice, that’s rich 😆

[@gorkyd7912]

@@ab935 Based on what? People used to raise gigantic families routinely. The average number of children in the 1800s in the USA was 7. When you discipline children they behave, when they behave they keep watch over their own siblings, only idiotic liberals who don't know how to discipline can't control multiple children and that's why they want abortion.

[@whitegoodman7465]

Probably another leftie wanting the release of murderers and rapists..like the black dude that was on death row for killing his aunt or someshit and demi Lovato was pleading his innocents..they dont believe in criminals.

[@tv92taylor]

Per the current district attorney: “The condition of Mariah’s body indicated that she had been severely beaten. There were bruises in various states of healing covering her body, there were bite marks on her back, one of her arms had been broken probably about 2 to 7 weeks prior to her death and she was missing portions of her hair where it had been pulled out by the roots. Her autopsy revealed bruised kidneys, a bruised spinal cord and bruised lungs. The emergency room physician testing that this was the ‘absolute worst’ case of child abuse that he had seen in his 30 years of practice.”

[@brianandrews7491]

Thank u bro

[@Colechamdiceman]

So, according to this speaker all that was completely fabricated?

[@middleageddad]

@@Colechamdiceman The speaker would tell you that he doesn't want to go into details on.

[@Phogramo]

I’m not saying she’s innocent, but how do we know one of the kids who wanted to testify in defence of their mother wasn’t going to rat on one of the dozen kids she had? Lady is clearly mentally ill though, she could have had a breakdown and beat the brakes off that baby 🧐

[@Murchie6]

Exactly, why this innocent project is 95% fucking bullshit.

[@milokitty5157]

I'm aware of false confessions but there are SO many important details he left out.The child had numerous bruises in different forms of healing. One of the arms was broken 2-7 weeks before death, had teeth marks on her, had her vagina pinched, hair had been pulled out by the roots and bite marks were visible on the back. She had a total of 14 children! At the time of the case, she only had 7 of her kids living with her. The eldest 4 kids did not live with her. She was also pregnant with twins, which she had while incarcerated and she gave them up for adoption. Finally, 3 of her middle kids were born addicted to drugs, because she used drugs while pregnant. CPS had taken her children away from her on multiple occasions. All her kids were hungry and dirty. There was no food in their house! The local soup kitchen knew them well, because they would eat there daily! The coroner did an autopsy and said that the baby's injuries were the result of prolongued physical abuse

[@punchybandu]

Wow... If you didn't say this I wouldn't have been any of the wiser. If that is the case and this guy is this staunch about this it makes me question his judgement and his ability to judge others.... Interesting

[@BlueBirdsProductions]

@@punchybandu you wouldn't have been any wiser? Is it not obvious that he's an idiot when he can't say any details about the case?

[@zm447]

@@BlueBirdsProductions Relax bro not everything is World War 3 in the comment section

[@brainumb6078]

Any chance you could point me in the right direction to see this

[@brainumb6078]

@K Ilisha Jones it’s amazing to see how people can read conversation so well, I lack that ability, it’s strange to because in everyday life family and friends would describe me as being very knowledgeable but sometimes I think I just talk to much and don’t listen enough so I sound good but say nothing really, hopefully one day I can slowdown and actually listen

[@christianityisunstoppable4155]

So he says “ I don’t know enough about the details in the case” but he’s advocating for her ?

[@JoCoJumpers]

His soft spoken and demure demeanor is literally sickening when you read the case file. That baby was abused and yes there’s proof. Please do your research.

[@sixhundred3score6]

Apparently your past gives you a pass to commit crime these days.

[@fearmylegion8375]

Yeah if there's people that deserve the death penalty she's definitely one of them. Your bad past doesn't excuse you from doing evil things my dude.

[@dubyah967]

This case is a DUMPSTER FIRE. This was a poor family, 9 or more kids in a 1-bedroom apartment, she was addicted to drugs, possibly sexually abused herself as a child, and an abusive husband. I'm not sure of this woman's mental state, but I'd stay there was a high probability she snapped. The kids had previously been removed from the home, due to neglect. The autopsy showed the little girl had a broken untreated arm. There were also bites and bruises allover her. Also marks from pinching on her vagina. (I'm not sure how you can tell them are pinch marks) I agree that this woman should not have been allowed to have all these kids in those conditions. The only questionable thing is the 5-hour interrogation after losing her child. I think she already had a retrial based off that. Same result. NOW, she says that one of the daughters was the one that was abusing the younger one that died. IDK if I believe her, but there are 9 potential witnesses that could confirm what happened. I don't which is more believable a mother beating and killing her child or a sister doing that to her younger sister. Which is worse? With a dozen people living in on apartment like that, either one could have snapped.

[@dubyah967]

@jJ Even if it's upsetting story, and this guy may have left out a few details. We are all more informed by watching This podcast clip. Also, the guy encouraged you to research it yourself in the video.

[@dyerseve45]

@@dubyah967 a few details? No he literally is lying through his teeth. He said there was absolutely no evidence of physical abuse. The medical examiner said this was the single worst case of child abuse she had ever seen. I saw the pics of the autopsy and it was truly sickening. Dubin is an absolute scumbag trying to set that piece if shit "mom" free.

[@MsJanetWood]

2:30 The forensic pathologist said this was the worst case of child abuse and declared it a homicide! You can see a fragment of her findings online!

[@seanomalleygoatmmafighter2182]

Yea but we don’t know the whole story, what if the child said a curse word? Or hit the mother and she was just defending herself? Sometime discipline is needed with kids.

[@danialcompton3093]

@Sean OMalley undefeated best MMA fighter all time the kids had multiple injuries in various states of healing, showing a long history of abuse. the lady is a monster and this guys an idiot

[@jmilber]

@@Methbilly She threw the dead child down the steps... she had abused her relentlessly, and she was severely malnourished. The child did NOT die from falling down stairs. It's an accident in the sense that "I didn't know if I kept abusing and starving my infant, she might die!" --- she didn't slip and fall. The autopsy showed homicide as the suspected cause of death

[@jmilber]

@@Methbilly i know avout the innocence project. They've tried to release the modt heinous murderers and rapist's back into society. I dont believe anything that comes out their mouths, snd for good reason. I watxhed them try to free rodney Reed woth total blatant lies and celebrity pressure. A serisl rapist and murderer woth overwhelming evidence. I see them trying to release kevin Cooper, the murderer of the central park five. The evidence agsibst him is overwhelming. He said "no physical evidence of abuse"? The child had an untreated broken arm, bruises all over het body from different time periods, fresh bite marks thst matched the moms teeth, she was malnourished, had pinch marks on her vagina and body, and the cause of death didnt match what the mother claimed... This evidenced that she pushed her lifeless body fowb thr stairs to nske it kook likr an accident. All of her kids admit she abused Mariah and Mariah was scated to death of her. Why should I give this lyong pos the benefit of the doubt, when s jury who heard sll the facts convicted her, and the innocence project has no credibility?

[@vitaly6312]

Here’s the quick rundown: “The woman told authorities the child had fallen down some stairs but emergency room physicians found she had bruises covering her body, bite marks on her back, an arm that had been broken weeks earlier and was missing hair that had been pulled by the roots from her head. An autopsy showed the girl had been beaten on her head and the injuries were not caused by a fall down some stairs.” Now there are issues with the prosecutors and the DA, as well as her children not being allowed to testify in the woman’s defense - so perhaps there’s an issue with the trial itself, but it’s pretty evident that she probably did it.

[@PaintballVideosNet]

Then she needs to go :)

[@turtlepowersf]

@@louiedoee and good thing they found her guilty

[@matthewp5472]

that seems like important contextual info. Of course this is assuming there isn't also a male in the picture who could have done that also

[@fortusvictus8297]

@@matthewp5472 I'm pretty sure even a crap public defender would have presented that at a trial. She was found guilty, so it's safe to say that's just a made-up scenario in yer head there bro.

[@ceoofwhiteprivilege2238]

The assistant prosecutor in the case claimed they found “pinch marks” on the little girl’s vagina as well

[@Benito_Cognito]

The emergency room physician said, "in 30 years of practice he had not seen a case of child abuse worse than Mariah's." So now you'll get lead prosecutor Alfredo Padilla on for that balance you're promoting...right Joe?

[@jmilber]

Joe is naive and moronic for platforming ANYONE advocating fro a murderers release without doing basic due dilligence. With all of his millions, can he not screen peopel first? The innocence project is an evil organization that wants to free murderers. Usually, it's Black on White murder they focus on. The most obvious cases of guilt, like Rodney Reed killing & raping Stacey Stykes, and Kevin Cooper committing the most horrific murder of women and children in the CHino Hills mAssacre.

[@5starview]

Brings up this case and why she shouldn't be executed. 7:41 I'm not going to speak on specifics in this case. He says she was strangled. She was pushed down the steps and she blames Mariah physical disability contributed to her falling. Wow this guest is pathetic.

[@alejandronopasanada5302]

That took less than 2-3 minutes for me to google. He should have asked to bring it up on screen.

[@nuclearwinter391]

Yeah, the kid had an untreated broken arm, bruises, and signs of a serious head injury. This fraud completely lies about these facts.

[@fortusvictus8297]

At the end of the day, this guy is a lawyer, a defense attorney at that. He tries not to look like it and look more like an activist, but he is a lawyer first.

[@ab935]

She could not have possibly had control over all those kids, they could have been beating each other up. Glad she's locked up and not making more.

[@jonnygranville281]

@@ab935 that's a good point. I've got 3 older brothers and they definitely left some marks on me that might have looked like abuse. But this lady seems like she has no business raising children and possibly killed one thru neglect

[@bogkazealijamislim5998]

When he said "These people would do the due diligence that I would do" and he has done absolutely no due diligence. . . . it kinda summed it up.

[@alejandronopasanada5302]

Lol, yea. This clip is for the lib fire right now because it def not the best clip for his audience of thinkers

[@bogkazealijamislim5998]

@@alejandronopasanada5302 Sad but not unexpected.

[@mercharris5266]

He’s used to convincing his peers with emotional drivel

[@crustybandaid183]

We stand by you Joe Rogan. Don’t give in! Your podcast has done so much good in the world.

[@owenmersk4626]

Are you a cisgender white man too? A white man getting paid $100,000,000 to spread transphobic activism and racism is not good, what radicalized you into being an activist?

[@katie6666]

@@owenmersk4626 bad bait dude

[@ShellShock11C]

@@owenmersk4626 Dude, stop baiting.

[@Unedited43795]

Don't give in to what? Don't give in to being a better person? Your value system is built around the importance of deeply offending others?

[@evanmiller3237]

Racist

[@shireen2296]

As soon as Josh was being tight lipped about the case and said "I encourage people to do their own research" I immediately went to the comment section and my thoughts have been confirmed. I've lost almost all respect for this guy and The Innocence Project...

[@ironaddictsnation2945]

He talked about her so adamantly, then couldn’t give any facts about the case. When he talked about her past abuse and how many kids I am just assuming it was a bad environment for kids and more likely some guy in her life or past did it. But she was likely covering it up or negligible. There is no credibility to someone who won’t even describe the facts of the case.

[@jjiggans433]

I am not arguing, I am just curious as why you say in this situation, he has no credibility because he didn't discuss the facts of the case, when he urged people to read the facts themselves. I suppose I am asking you out of everyone before you that said something similar, because your statement seemed to me the most coming from a place of intelligence

[@yankees29]

She was a drug addicted prostitute that had kids with like 7-8 different guys.

[@ironaddictsnation2945]

@@jjiggans433 he brought her up as this clear example of innocence but couldn’t recall the facts of the case gives the appearance he doesn’t know what he is talking about. I was waiting and wanting to hear his case. I love the idea of the innocence project and think it is important. Prosecutors can be very aggressive when they assume someone is guilty, like the Kyle rittenhouse case. However, when you are given a massive platform opportunity like JRE to bring the case to light, there is a responsibility there. Who knows she could be innocent and he could have saved her from death row by putting the facts of the case on the show. Another “making a murderer” public support. But you have to read the case yourself and read the comments on KZbin you get a perverse view and then come to your own assumptions. I made assumptions in my comment I didn’t want to make but off of information presented. I think that hurts the credibility and a disservice to this woman if she is really innocent. Just my thoughts

[@jjiggans433]

@@yankees29 right I don't doubt any of that however it does not make her a killer. maybe she is( a killer) I didn't read the evidence as was suggested

[@yankees29]

@@jjiggans433 I know I didn’t say it did. Maybe I was mixed up but I thought someone said her and her boyfriend had all those kids together. I was pointing out this is not the case. Maybe I responded on the wrong thread.

[@jsheldon5169]

He knows she's innocent but dosen't know important specific details about the case. She killed her own child, sorry about her past but its no excuse for her actions.

[@brianemery8945]

Is this guy high. Sits down begins to act and give a emotional story of this innocent mother. Accused and set up by police. 200 percent sure shes innocent. Then admits to not knowing much details about the case. Wtf

[@Jdp313]

Right wtf

[@MatthewsSloan]

but the Innocence Project says so. So it must be true.

[@EnZo7992]

Looks like Joe laced this guys drink with a little too much DMT before the pod 🤷‍♂️

[@LogicalNimbus]

The dude is so wrong. She’s guilty as hell. Her own kids confessed.

[@puroo1301]

Oh, definetly. One big problem with the innocence project is their perogative to only highlight cases from the defense's point of view, excluding shitloads of evidence and facts to a court of public opinion. I´ve supported Joe for as long as I can remember, but I´m worried by his commitment to this shady organization.

[@LogicalNimbus]

@@puroo1301 right? I usually NEVER disagree but I also always fact check. This was interesting and I sadly realized these guys were wrong. Wild stuff.

[@larryjohnson2306]

Her children may have been the one's who inflicted some of the physical damage on the child. Children's confessions too often cannot be relied on. And it's clear that police pressured the mother into saying she did it, and this is a VERY common thing police do to defendants who are low income and limited mentally.

[@LogicalNimbus]

@@larryjohnson2306 “may” is not a good way to build your case. Go do some fact checking and get back to me.

[@larryjohnson2306]

@@LogicalNimbus - You are trying to sound smart but you don't have the wisdom to know what smart is. You looking at facts just means that your limited mind will see only what a limited mind will see from those cherry picked facts, if they are actually facts. The point is that you don't know how the baby was fatally injured and neither do we. That's why Melissa Lucio shouldn't be executed. The case is flawed and lacking at multiple levels and the evidence points to her being coerced into a "confession". The emotional claim that the examiner has never seen such a level of child abuse means nothing. It's just an expression of personal feelings that doesn't show what specifically happened. Is that dumbed down enough for you?

[@Bonio84]

This is why we love Joe Rogan. This guest is clearly insane, as this is probably the most guilty suspect I have ever read about. The dead victim (2 yo), had a blunt force trauma to the head, bite marks on her back, bruises all over her body and a broken arm. The fact that this guy can believe she is in innocent shows 2 things 1) You are allowed to listen to people who are stupid, politely, 2) WE WONT CANCEL YOU FOR IT!!! KEEP GOING JOE!!!!

[@lilitudeamnocte248]

💯💯💯💯

[@probuilder961]

When they start the story with, "They had a rough life", get ready for a tangled web to be woven.

[@bradprice8040]

@@probuilder961 as he was saying that I literally said out loud, "but did she do it"

[@katharina...]

Well said, Bonio84!

[@dont-touch-mepg1392]

You can skip to video in 4 Comments Add a comment... DonT-ToucH-Me PG130 seconds ago So I have been questioned by the cops for hours. Me and my friends. It Baltimore,u deal with cops all the time. 5 hours isn't long really. And most false confessions take 12 14 hours of youths. And for not so serious crimes mostly. This guy doesn't even no about the case! But he knows about it? Wtf, and go to their website to find out. I see abused kids in Baltimore,, THEY NEVER GET REPORTED! He just named statistics and thinks,, said and done. But, how can u admit to killing ur kid in 5 hours. Losing ur kids awful and anyone saying u did it would get ur wrath, a mother at that, being told she killed her kid, just says, "ok, I killed my baby that I'm mourning over". The innocence project has gotten it wrong ALOT! Look into it. They get letters from EVERYONE who wants out and have no proof.

[@07serda]

“ I don’t know the nooks and crannies of the case”…like how the child’s death was diagnosed BUUUT I’m going to blast out to the world to send money now. He literally admits he didn’t KNOW THE FACTS of the case he is speaking on?! Dude literally discriminates against jury volunteers for a “profession”.

[@pattydella4]

Yeeeeessss. Exactly!!!

[@redsilverado76]

Trying to get innocent people off of death row or get their verdicts and sentences thrown out is a noble endeavor. However, the news that i found on this case suggests that this woman is probably guilty. Its not noble or just to get a murdering child abuser out of prison. This case makes me doubt what The Innocence Project is doing.

[@vaevictis_]

They go after a lot of questionable cases which makes them, well, questionable

[@workdiggitz]

There are cases where they have done good work and helped innocent people. But they have a very shady history and are first and foremost an anti death penalty group. And at a certain point they stop pursuing justice or seeking truth and just trying to do anything they can including witness intimidating, liying, spreading misinformation, and paying off people to get people off. They have a very spotty track record thus far.

[@justinm2697]

The Innocence Project has nothing to do with innocence. It has everything to do with finding excuses for people doing horrendous things.

[@bobrown582]

You should doubt what they’re doing. They’re constantly trying to get scum of the earth off scott-free. This guy should be ashamed of himself for coming on this show lying like this

[@vaevictis_]

It’s sad too because like Mr. Rambo mentioned above, it is such a noble thing to do if you take what they say at face value. Although, I would like if they focused on all prisoners not just black ones, at least a case here or there.

[@MsJanetWood]

⚖️ According to official court records, “There were bruises in various states of healing covering her body. There were bite marks on her back. One of her arms had been broken probably about 2 to 7 weeks prior to her death. She was missing portions of her hair where it had been pulled at the roots. Her autopsy revealed bruised kidneys, a bruised spinal cord, and bruised lungs. The emergency room physician testified that this was the “ABSOLUTE WORST” case of child abuse that he had seen in his 30 years of practice!” #JUSTICE FOR BABY MARIAH👼🏽

[@angelarac1554]

Just killling a bunch of of innocent people! Agenda 21 enjoy

[@bryanc182]

Plot twist: her 11 kids did it and she’s just covering for them

[@taryllhanchard3978]

What’s more likely is she lost her mind and didn’t realise the harm she was causing Not that she didn’t do it

[@atomicwedgie8709]

Stair can do that to a baby

[@atomicwedgie8709]

@@taryllhanchard3978 she lost her mind until after killing the baby

[@chrishenderson9663]

Facebook was down. Instagram was down. Snapchat was down. Gmail was down. Twitter was down. But Joe Rogan was still standing🐐

[@RealKlausSchwab]

Reported

[@lilal42030]

We stand with ROGAN!

[@blkreid]

He's going to be fine WITH OR WITHOUT US.

[@jakebrown5267]

@@Jeffshighonlife yet you’re here?

[@horusheritic]

Indeed

[@3runrob]

Rogan doesn't stand with Rogan

[@dugfreshh93]

Love you Joe. You’re a great human being and anyone who actually watches your podcasts and knows who you are will know you are not a racist. Appreciate who you are. Keep fighting 👏🏼

[@___blaggard999___8]

its the us government after him

[@sentientcardboarddumpster7900]

I doubt Joe loses many viewers. The people that watch him regularly likely won't be bothered by the noise. It's the people who don't watch him making all the noise. What effect is it going to have if they continue to not watch him?

[@MYNAMEizCLARENCE]

There’s actually nothing to fight because no one really cares. He’s just doing him and that’s it. It’ll blow over (completely) within a month or two.

[@stockontruthchannel2631]

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[@stockontruthchannel2631]

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[@jerrodcowlishaw]

Hard to believe that this guy would go on this major rant about such a heavy subject and not know the details of the “nook’s and crannies”, etc..

[@gbb5642]

Hes a fraud. When Joe starting asking legitimate questions, he began to back pedeal after that 7 minute speech about nothing

[@codyleslie478]

She obviously did it... this guy is crazy.. . He gives no evidence to defend her but makes excuses. Read the evidence and you'll know she is guilty Edit: keep asking questions Joe Rogan this is why we love you!

[@GameN3rdz]

Lol

[@eEmm1]

Don't know about that but what I do know is that this guy is a total bore to listen to. I'm surprised Joe didn't fall asleep in the process.

[@Maverick-theonly1]

@@eEmm1 I fell asleep listening to this guy talk

[@eEmm1]

@@Maverick-theonly1 of course you did. Lol you can tell this guy loves to hear himself talk slow, probably makes him think he's an "intellectual" of some sorts.

[@CadillacM]

She was found guilty stop saying accused

[@ExtremelyRightWing]

Sure this guy has done some good work and there are some people in prison who are in fact innocent. But he is also the type that tries to act as if every black person is wrongfully accused, which to me is just as bad as the people who assume every black person is a criminal.

[@variaxi935]

FYI, some porno spam bot in this comment section has blatantly copypasted this comment.

[@deathstarr109]

This dude is the living definition of "I had to ask my wife's boyfriend if I could do this podcast with Joe"

[@LaurenMiddleton28]

😂

[@syncopatedsteve]

😅 That made me laugh, you son of a bitch.

[@nihilistlivesmatter]

Wife's boyfriend: 'Only after you washed my car' Wife pops her head out from boyfriend's lap: '& you've you take me shoe shopping'

[@bikebasket9594]

If your wife has a boyfriend then you’re in a difficult situation.

[@YourWifesBoyfriend]

I don't really listen when he talks, tbh

[@kingfillins4117]

"Some of the children living with Lucio were previously taken from the home by Child Protective Services and placed into foster care when Mariah was three weeks old, in 2004. According to documents filed in the Texas Criminal Court Of Appeals in 2011, the children were found in “unsafe” conditions with scratches and insect bites. They were returned to Lucio three months before Mariah’s death. Melissa Lucio’s daughter claimed, on TikTok, that this is when the abuse began. Selina says that Lucio was, “not abusive to all of us. She started abusing only my sister, Mariah.” The kid had bruise marks that matched Melissa's rings.

[@Solidus__]

Joe SERIOUSLY needs to start pushing back on these guests. One minute of googling and you'd know that woman is guilty as sin

[@Anna-cx4tg]

how was Joe supposed to know the details?

[@acc4465]

@@Anna-cx4tg Joe can ask the basic questions that anyone interviewing usually asks. This sounds like an unbelievable story that is very slanted one way - ask questions to make sure this isn’t the case.

[@acc4465]

You couldn’t be more right. Joe is sleeping during this interview. Ask basic questions Joe. The jury heard the evidence and decided she should die for this. Why not talk to one of them?

[@perijetton9275]

We got you Joe! I’m so happy with the way you are handling this situation. We will NEVER let them cancel you!

[@stockontruthchannel2631]

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[@stockontruthchannel2631]

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[@readingtips2690]

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[@readingtips2690]

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[@jonathansoko1085]

WE ALL STAND WITH ROE JOGAN!!!!!!!!!!

[@jasonantigua6825]

Who’s he trying to convince? Himself? He has left a ton of information out about this cases!!!

[@AGT410]

The 'innocence project' is sick. They always pick the most obviously guilty psychopaths as their projects.

[@MsJanetWood]

👼🏼 *I saw the documentary! This lady was a drug addict. 3 of her newborn babies were born addicted to drugs! She abused drugs even while pregnant! All her kids were hungry and dirty! There was no food in their house! The local soup kitchen knew them well, becaue they would eat there daily right along with all the winos! The coroner did an autopsy and said that the baby's injuries were the result of prolonged physical abuse. The baby had a broken arm, bite marks, bald spots where her hair had been pulled! And bruises all over her tiny body! I don't believe in the death penalty. But, in this rare case, I think it is warranted! Justice for Baby Mariah!* 🐣

[@killdozer3464]

But did she murder her kid? That is what we should be worried about. That’s the point of the discussion. To me it sounds like all her children should had been taken away from her by CPS. but that does t mean she murdered the kid.

[@DTTWOPP]

Soooo that means she should be on death row for capital murder?

[@SLAMBANGO]

Here's the thing. Mothers murdering their kids is a natural part of nature. Happens all the time out in the wild. Doesn't make the mother a danger to society. She should be left alone.

[@brendandoe3082]

@@SLAMBANGO troll

[@kathyheavner3585]

Thanks for the info

[@jf9670]

She did it….hate when they try and bring race and past “trauma” as an excuse. Next story please.

[@mexicanspec]

I think he had a point when he said a person that suffered that would not be able to stand up to authority.

[@gbb5642]

@@mexicanspec doesn't mean she won't be abusive to those Weaker than her.

[@sonador777]

He said, "go and research the case yourself." That's probably not the best advice in this case. Sounds a lot like she did it.

[@mtbdre8394]

😂😂😂

[@thebigredwagon]

She definitely did.

[@thelord3561]

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[@thelord3561]

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[@thelord3561]

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[@cwice992]

Advocating for the release of an obviously guilty baby killer…wow

[@gbb5642]

Lot of people like him in the world

[@DarinCates]

GOOSE CHASE .... He lead us down a long emotional rocky road then "I dont want to talk about the case" LOL

[@Medslinger]

100%

[@arkhamknight6371]

Hes a tool,he trashed Kamala Harris for an hour last time talking about her corruption, then at the end said she was a good person n was gonna be a good vp

[@shoejoe3518]

hold on... "no signs of physical abuse???" ...... "The emergency room physician (Vargas) testified that this was the 'absolute worst' case of child abuse that he had seen in his 30 years of practice."

[@jaredc8281]

I've looked over this case a few times and here's what I know: the mother initially claimed the child fell down the stairs, but the coroner found bite marks and numerous other bruises consistent with altercations (or abuse). Maybe she didn't commit murder, but she's not innocent dude. I appreciate the idea of the innocence project, and I know they had a hand in overturning a MASSIVE case in Oregon, but this isn't evidence here: it's sentimentality.

[@MsDrSantana]

Thank you. Another part the speaker leaves out is that the mother now claims as part of her new defense that she knew the child was being beaten and abused by one of her teenage daughters and the daughter killed her (which would contradict this idea that the child was never injured or abused). the mother goes so far now to claim on camera that she lied to protect the teenage daughter who is the real killer. Its in the documentary. the mother saying this!!!

[@chukfunk]

Maybe she didn’t but kill her anyway?

[@pebcak420]

"bite marks" raises a big red flag for me. Biting is something that one tends to do when they are so overpowered they dont see any other means of inflicting damage. Typically biting is done by children toward adults, or each other not by adults toward children excepting the whole 'bite them back' means of teaching a child that biting hurts when/if they go through a biting phase. (note you arent supposed to bite hard) at any rate. this strikes me as sus. why would she bite a child? of all means of inflicting damage, why biting? its not the easiest thing to do by far, we arent even anatomically configured for ease of biting things. Seems far more likely to me one of the other children inflicted these particular wounds.

[@jameskhan1320]

@@pebcak420 surely the defence would point out the bite mark size is a child not and adult if that was the situation

[@pebcak420]

@@jameskhan1320 I would HOPE so, and for that matter why is it even a question if they can have her bite a wax mold and compare the wounds. Womens bite structure is quite a bit more narrow in general than a mans and depending on the SIZE of the woman it could fit an older childs size. However... if the teeth dont fit. you must acquit.

[@joaquinmurieta2276]

He is so caring … but not for the murdered child

[@IndependenceCityMotoring]

Side note: Someone having 14 kids that other taxpayers need to provide for, and without adequate parenting, is EXACTLY what is wrong with American society.

[@readingtips2690]

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[@readingtips2690]

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[@turkish8969]

@@tanktuba no the fuck it isnt.

[@aaronblance2751]

That's so helpful! Thanks for letting everyone know EXACTLY what's wrong with American Society.

[@Socrates526]

What's wrong with American society is the lack of strong father figures

[@stevemarsh7463]

Another case like Julios Jones, as you dig into it you realize they are more and more guilty.🤷

[@angelaconner3131]

Exactly! Its just nuts.

[@turkish8969]

I heard the words"innocence project" and i knew this bitch was guilty. The guy goes on and on about "oh she was sexually abused and you should feel bad the cops interrogated her!" 5 mins in and this guy has said ZERO facts of the case.

[@stevemarsh7463]

@@turkish8969 the guy stays vague in his wording because its about the money and attention grab, he isnt familiar with the details of the case.

[@nate7778]

@@turkish8969 He was using similar tactics that police do to setup their "audience" in order to steer them to the conclusion they want.

[@readingtips2690]

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[@Waltham1892]

"On February 17, 2007, paramedics were called to the Lucio residence because two-year-old Mariah was unresponsive and not breathing. According to the Cameron County District Attorney's Office, Mariah was found at the home with signs of abuse on her body. She reportedly had scattered bruising, bite marks on her back, patches of hair that had been pulled out, and a broken arm. According to Lucio, two days earlier Mariah had fallen down a set of stairs, leading to her injuries. Mariah was pronounced dead upon arrival at a local hospital. It was later determined that Mariah's arm had been broken two to seven weeks before her death, and an autopsy also showed a head injury and bruising of the kidneys, lungs and spinal cord." So, we have two scenarios'. The first is a horribly abusing and negligent mother who allowed a critically injured child to suffer and die over the course of days in her home rather than seek medical attention, or, a murderer who allowed her victim to suffer and die under her roof rather than call medical attention which would have revealed her crime. Either way, not a woman who moves me to sympathy.

[@ItotheCtotheE]

guy claims to not know the details of the case but that he's confident it was a false confession. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs. Saying it was a false confession requires more than saying he believes it to be the case.

[@ab935]

She could not have possibly had control over all those kids, they could have been beating each other up. Glad she's locked up and not making more.

[@pinklemon-m5v]

Who nees details when have diligent friends.

[@variaxi935]

@Teleportdinero of the sharingan hello teleport what is your gender

[@zantelion1052]

It’s this kind of person that said COVID was a pandemic, that Joe has killed others, and that the world is flat! Check the facts, investigate the truth, then engage the mind and mouth!

[@guymon82ify]

Love you Joe! But this guy is not making a good case for this mother of 12 on death row. Stop it man. How does he know she's absolutely innocent just by all this emotional stuff. It sounds like she was completely investigated. It's not the investigators job to make you feel good.

[@HEATSEEKER00]

Exactly … something about this guy is off …

[@donhughes7339]

@@HEATSEEKER00 leftist brain worms

[@user-hr6dp7di4w]

@@donhughes7339 this guy literally worked with trumps kids

[@donhughes7339]

@@user-hr6dp7di4w I dont give a fuck if he worked with Jesus Christ if you think some woman who murdered her children needs her actions justified because of her environment and some gross failure of society you got brain worms. Personal responsibility is a missing virtue in Black communities, and thats the reason shit like this happens because idiots like this make excuses for piss poor inhuman behavior of a single group. So don't give a fuck this guy hung with trumps kids. Trump is a 90s Democrat. We need the 1938-1944 version of right wing to come back so people recognize what what a real leader looks like 👍

[@MysticWolf1223]

That's kind of the point. He doesn't know that she's innocent. What's he trying to say is, how do we know she's guilty? By a possible forced confession or false admission? They've happened countless times before. Wrongful convictions are a real thing. People have been wrongfully sent to prison and deathrow by people who were 100% certain they were guilty. Who knows, maybe she's innocent. Maybe she's guilty. I don't know. You don't know. That guy doesn't know. The people on the jury didn't know. All they had were their thoughts and beliefs and made a judgment on it. In truth, no one knows, and will probably never know. In most cases, all we can do is guess and hope that we're right. Sometimes we are, and sometimes we're not. Honestly, I think the whole fourteen minutes was him basically trying to say: "Hey, our entire judicial system is screwed up, and here's one example and some statistics to explain why. It's all an archaic system run by imperfect humans, and we should do something to fix/abolish it."

[@MrGhostbones]

You have my support Joe, long live free speech!

[@BUSSINJUSTIN10M]

Lmao all the support you got was porn ads😂.

[@gustavovillatoro7970]

My grandma had 13 children. She had a broken relationship with my grandfather which sometimes turned into domestic violence. I witnessed myself. My parents left us (4 children) with them since they broke up. It was hard and sometimes we barely had anything to eat… But she never ever abused any of her children or grandchildren.

[@Felled-angel]

I grew up in a family of 13 never did my gentleman of a father and my saint of a mother lay a hand on me or my brothers and sisters and we were poor immigrants and there was 4 to a bad even my mum and dad had two kids in the bed with them and never complained and we were always clean and bellys full.

[@Chris-vc1jj]

This may not be a popular opinion but in this one instance, he loses a lot of credibility when he speaks so eloquently for 8min.10 sec. about a mother who is accused of killing her child but then admits to not knowing the details of the case.

[@PSNmemoryismisery]

no, you're absolutely right man.

[@cordlefhrichter1520]

He also loses credibility when he says there was "no evidence of any abuse" and the woman who performed the autopsy said it was "the worst case of child abuse I have ever seen". The girl was covered in bruises from head to toe, she had pinch marks on her vagina, her cranium was filled with blood after being punched or kicked very hard, her arm was broken... "No evidence of any abuse". Fucking disgusting.

[@honkeyness9427]

In this “one instance”? The man is a mouthpiece for a disgusting organization that tries to get rapists and murderers released. The Innocence Project has 5 lawyers and made $21 million last year - from gullible idiots like Joe Rogan.

[@Katie-rx8ql]

It is popular opinion

[@roylatekajxam]

"She had a rough upbringing"...Not as bad as HER kid!

[@buttercup3ish]

BINGO!!! geez

[@travisdoe4663]

Right... The lack of personal responsibility is destroying this country. It's always somebody else's fault, no one's ever responsible for their own actions.

[@chrismacdonald4570]

Did you guys go to the innocence project and check out her case?

[@travisdoe4663]

@@chrismacdonald4570 there's certainly enough evidence to argue whether or not she actually murdered her child. However, it's pretty evident that all of her children were abused severely, and the child certainly died of neglect whether intentionally murdered or not. If I was on the jury I would hang her to! Suffering from abuse as a child and living a life of addiction is no excuse to abuse your children..

[@chrismacdonald4570]

@@travisdoe4663 Well you answered me with facts and civily. A rarity for YT . I do agree that a bad upbringing is no excuse for abusing children. I will leave it at that. Thanks again for some information from a different perspective

[@backpulse]

Coles notes: The guy admits not knowing fine details about the case but thinks she's innocent and wants you to give him money.

[@Trey_Cole]

@Filsi______💫 For fucks sake will you goddamn stop it already

[@buttercup3ish]

@@Trey_Cole thanks,...it's annoying!!

[@Trey_Cole]

@@buttercup3ish every thread I enter. There she is again. I blame the guys that are stupid enough to click the link

[@Squarebodydodi]

As a mother if anyone hurt my child I’d want them to suffer.. broken bones?!?! Seriously?!? Take your kid to the doctor. She deserves to be in jail.

[@yt_hatescrime_data4301]

He lost me once he said "the innocence project". Anybody that has done their research into this program understands they are primarily full of shit. Just keeping it 💯

[@angelaconner3131]

Exactly.

[@nate7778]

How so? Genuinely curious.

[@trevorpullen3199]

Don't care. I'd rather 100 guilty people go free than 1 innocent person be put in jail, mush less put to death.

[@turkish8969]

@@trevorpullen3199 cool story trevor, so why areyou advocating for a CLEARLY guilty woman to walk free?

[@turkish8969]

@@nate7778 google julius jones. Or watch all the videos done by actual justice warrior, he goes into the facts of the case

[@dombo916]

If watched anything about this lady, you would know she did it 100% lmao this guy is nuts

[@squeakyrabbit]

@Ellah Juwita Reporting you for pornography.

[@BobbyHiII]

Yup, he’s one of these people trying to black people off death row just bc they’re black .

[@resolution1]

Nut jobs trying to play on emotions to defend a sick child killer.

[@variaxi935]

@@BobbyHiII and because he's discovered it's an easy grift

[@jackiesmith2831]

Melissa Lucio is guilty - whether she intended the death or not, she severely abused that baby and her other kids. No doubt. Saying she is innocent is like saying that Gabriel Fernandez mother and her boyfriend are also innocent. The way that this guest frames this case, he keeps going on about innocence but mentions nothing concrete about the case or the abuse, trying to convince joe and the listeners about a cause without giving specifics. It’s irresponsible of him.

[@johnhunter3931]

He wants to bring her supposedly past abuse but that should be a more of a reason for not abusing that poor child.

[@TheRandomINFJ]

She did it. Idgaf if Kim Kardashian has blinders on, Melissa is super guilty.

[@kathyheavner3585]

Sexual abuse knows no class or socioeconomic distinctions. What he said is not true at all, and blows up your guest's credibility. Love your podcasts Joe. Especially Malone lately

[@levity90]

Yeah. My thoughts exactly. He was basically like "if you're poor you're also stupid and more likely to commit sexual crime." Which is a line of thinking I find to be so pretentious and condescending while masked as compassion.

[@tilled6695]

@@levity90 stats dont lie, go read them and youll see why he said what he said. The statement "if your poor, you are more likly stupid and more likly to commit sexual crimes" is a legit statement to make based on the stats hes quoting. Do some research, do some realy home work, then you can understand why he said that. Anyone coming from a social economic class below that of liviable wages, will inherintly be more likly to do therse things based on that.

[@daveBit15]

"Sexual abuse knows no class or socioeconomic distinctions" You're talking out of your ass. Statistics *totally support* what he said.

[@levity90]

@@tilled6695 I'd bet my life that there are thousands of cases of sexual abuse in suburbia that go undocumented every year. Stats don't mean much to me when you're dealing with a subject that you truly can't know what the real numbers are

[@okyouknowwhatever]

Robbie Malone is a national treasure

[@jayg4424]

Red flags when he didn't immediately talk about the faults in the case against her.

[@willlovehavelove4703]

Why, is there anti colonial Yidds white semitism ? Because, there was first and still is anti Black semitism : reference Britain's 1747 map i.e. British mapping of the Kingdom of Judah in 1747 of West Africa, depicting the enslavement of the Jews i.e. the so called negros . Second - the colonial white yidd rejection of the USA- Human Genome Project) which indicates the direct descendants of Shem Ham Japheth of only Blacks i.e.the parental triad Fathers and Mothers with the oldest mtDNA on earth, furthermore indicating that none are colonial white skin european caucasian Yidds..Thrid - the colonial Yidd's rejection of Moses's God given Fifth Commandment “Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee” (Ex. 20:12).The Bible indicates white european caucasian skin is biblical leprosy in 2Kings 5:27. ( by the discovery of an mutated auto immune diseased gene responsible for the production of white european caucasian skin) that white european caucasian skin is indeed a disease . Is having a disease a good thing or an evil thing? Having colonial european white Yiddish skin is not Kosher, is indeed unclean i.e. curse .The root word of the word human is humus which means dark brown or black decayed organic material dirt, soil, dust of the earth essential for retaining of water and the fertilization of the earth.The first KKK meeting was December 24,1865 Pulaski Tennessee in the Law office of Judge, jewish born, Thomas McKissack Jones. Help stop the real KKK ( Kabbalah Kippah Khazars ) . Help support the health of humanity. Help stop the replacement of humanity with mutant persons i.e. colonialist European Caucasian whites. This is about the health of humanity not Hate. Moses wrote God Almighty said -“And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.” Genesis 12:3.Thanks again.......I love you.No one is asking you, not to be "white" or to change your so called neanderthal white skin gene; Yet, where is your Humanity or humanitarian behavior i.e., content of character, love thy neighbor as thy self? or has your heart's ability to love been mutated as well as your skin? I love you...Yet, if whites european colonial persons can refer to dark brown, black indigenous natural human beings as being colored jews then it is too fair, to call or refer to neanderthal, auto immune mutated disease, produced white DNA European Caucasian trait skin person's as, i.e. mutant people, alien people, mutated persons, Gehazian people, snow leper people - as indicated in 2Kings 5:27. Spit in her face person or spit face - as indicated in moses's written Numbers 12:14 .The Holy Bible indicates white caucasian european skin is leprosy in 2Kings 5:27 .God Almighty is not a liar .In 2005 USA genetic confirmed that white european skin is an auto immune disease. There is no white european Gehazian skin leper tribe in Israel. Moses said in Deuteronomy 24:9 "Remember what the Lord thy God did unto Miriam..."). My friend white skin is a disease mutation produced by having a disease gene: having a disease is not a good thing. Isaiah 5:20 “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!” If i am lying tell me where? My friend work with the facts and live with truth. Thanks.

[@IndependenceCityMotoring]

This guy is providing no concrete evidence of her innocence or really any facts besides what he thinks is her confession being suspicious. What did the autopsy state? And if she didn't strangle the kid, then who did?

[@turkish8969]

Man im really glad joe rogans audience isnt braindead. Came to the comments expecting people to just listen and believe

[@97vikingfreak]

To go on that insane rant to paint this good picture for her, and then when asked the first simple questions, say“I don’t know the nooks and crannies of the case but my team does” is fucking insanity.

[@fergusmoloney]

I’m convinced she’s innocent. What’s she accused of doing exactly? I’m not really sure on the specifics 🙄

[@nicholasrogers8173]

Right?!? Lmfao... these types always say the same shit. "Go do your own research..." by looking at only what I want you to see, and ignore the rest.

[@pattydella4]

Exactly!!! 🙄🙄🙄

[@jamesc8259]

Lolololol

[@loyal7597]

Yea go do your own research EXCEPT when it comes to vaccines, masks, lockdowns, basically anything governments do.

[@ab935]

She could not have possibly had control over all those kids, they could have been beating each other up. Glad she's locked up and not making more.

[@derekbundy4631]

At no point did this guy say anything that would make anyone believe this lady is innocent. I’m sorry she was abused as a child. Idk what that has to do with anything. No facts just all Emotion. This guy even admits he knows nothing of this case.

[@harrydonkey6077]

Agreed. He has no details of the case but claims she must have given a false confession because of her childhood and past abuse

[@Mr-ri8nv]

Yea I agree all I hear is excuses for a lady who is a child killer.

[@DarinCates]

YOU ARE CORRECT .... When questioned he said "I dont want to talk about the case"

[@JessicaC.]

@Ellah Juwita WTF?

[@turkish8969]

Exactly. Its julius jones all overagain. The innkcence project literally picks cases where they KNOW the person committed the crime. They have always been pro-criminal

[@slaselva]

Lol at no point did this guy provide any details regarding her innocence or guilt. When asked about the case he deflected to "I think people should do their own research" and "I don't know too much about the case." Don't throw a worthwhile organization into the dumpster for people who are obviously guilty. It's called "The Innocence Project" not the "Rough Background of Individual Who Strangled Her Kid Project."

[@turkish8969]

The innocence project only does cases where they know the person is guilty. Its to stir up racial hatred towards whites, and get more blue votes

[@RTMcFly-ni4qy]

@@turkish8969 lol. ok......

[@turtlepowersf]

They've gotten several of these "innocence projects" things totally wrong. Julius Jones is an outright cold blooded murderer with a mountain of evidence backing this and they're trying to set him free based on the fact that he killed a man (and attempted to kill his children) in an all white neighborhood, sooo they must be racist, right? Well interestingly, the guy who they claim is ACTUALLY the murderer.. is also black. Anyway, this guy just sets up her terrible upbringing the whole time, and doesn't get into the actual crime. We can't let people go who do terrible things, just because terrible things also happened to them.

[@rsfzombie4981]

i dont know the nooks and crannies of the case but i know this much.. explains the reasons.

[@TTOS69]

Bro straight facts this dude is a joke! He's literally saying nothing at all, he's just painting a narrative of some shit he has no clue about! The IoJ is great and if he's wrong here, people won't want anything to do with them bc his BS.

[@32rumandcoke]

"No physical evidence of abuse?!?" The child had BITE MARKS on her back, a broken arm that had been broken for weeks and had patches of hair ripped from her head! I am so sick of people that confuse indifference with compassion.

[@jessicapatton5635]

And cocaine in her system!!!

[@Shatamx]

Never talk to cops without a lawyer in an integration setting. You sit and wait for days if need be.

[@vtaycur]

also never murder your children like this woman did

[@craiglyles4755]

One of the most important life lessons kids don’t learn till it’s too late. Blue line gang is the most dangerous gang.

[@Rob-dp3vr]

Good advice. Also, don't have 14 kids when you're broke, poor, and have a horrible life and unmarried. Also, don't abuse your children, leaving bite marks, a previously broken arm, and unrelated head injuries. Because you might find yourself in an interrogation room.

[@Rob-dp3vr]

@@craiglyles4755 only if you're a criminal. Good people don't have to worry about the police. Don't be a criminal. The fact that isn't your advice to kids tells us you're probably a criminal.

[@craiglyles4755]

@@Rob-dp3vr Lol, so are all the supreme court justices who’ve emphasized the importance of invoking your fifth amendment right during police questioning criminals too? You have to be naïve AF to not know the ways of the blue lyin’ gang and corrupt criminal courts. Back the blue until it happens to you!

[@hillbillymods2866]

What he doesn't tell you, is that there was a mountain of evidence to indicate severe abuse, she had multiple kids taken from her, and many or all of them were born drug-addicted. I'm thinking justice needs to be be served.

[@brianfaucett989]

Innocence project defended Julius Jones with a clear distortion of the evidence. Now they defend this monster. I'll never take them at their word again

[@glitchyrhythm6749]

Man, the innocence Project sure does love getting guilty people out of jail. Insane stuff

[@slammeriversondougherty2689]

Some are innocent but your right though something going on

[@thelord3561]

1 Corinthians Chapter 15 Is The Ressurrection Creed That Paul Had Received Only 3-5 Years After Jesus Crucifiction And Had It Written 20 Years Later In A.D 54-55 And Jesus Went On The Cross At A.D 30 Also The Tel Dan Inscription States The House Of David On It And The Moabite Stone Records Mesha Just Like The Bible Worshipping Yahweh The Pool Of Siloam When Jesus Heals The Guy Is Also A Real Place And The Book Of Acts Gets The Environment Of The First Century Correct Which Myths Do Not Do It States Drusilla And Felix Got Married While Josephus The Jewish Historian Records The Same Thing And Believing In The Jesus Of The Bible And Christianity We Are Saved By Grace Not Of Ourselves It Is The Free Gift Of God By Repenting And Putting On The Lord Jesus Christ While Jehovah Witness And Mormonism Do Not Think They Are Saved And Are Earning Salvation To Get It However The Biblical Jesus Is The Only Way And Its Not About Achieving It Rather It Is More Like Receiving Christ To Be Saved In Him And Your Works Are The Fruit Of Your Salvation Amen And 2 Timothy 4:11 States Bring The Cloak I Left At Carpus Indicating It Was Authentic And Jesus Is More Worth It For Everlasting Life And Gary Habermas Has The Greatest Case For The Ressurection And Dr. James Tour On KZbin Also Shows The Reasons It Wasnt An Accident God Bless Jesus Is Lord Five Scientific Reasons To Believe In God kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqW2iayoet-LqZY The Case For Design kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJ2bYWWifaaea7s Jesus And His Ressurection Video kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2HMdYGCrdKKjK8 Gary Habermas On Jesus kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6rCdZVqh9yNla8 The Reliability Of The New Testamentt inspiringphilosophy.org/defending-christianity/

[@thelord3561]

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[@thelord3561]

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[@thelord3561]

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[@tomazvibe4042]

Joe always lets his guests get their point across without interruption. 👌

[@DontTouchMePlz]

Definitely not always. But most of the time

[@stockontruthchannel2631]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/epCTdZeobpuNlac the truth media Don't want you to see

[@stockontruthchannel2631]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/epCTdZeobpuNlac the truth media Don't want you to seey

[@stockontruthchannel2631]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/epCTdZeobpuNlac the truth media Don't want you to seey

[@fightingfinn1503]

Holy shit ive never seen bots this bad joe what are you doing?

[@uhohDavinci]

I wish he would have talked about the "case of Melissa Lucio"...

[@buttercup3ish]

funny

[@ESM77]

I get a very strong feeling we are not getting nearly any or all of the facts of this story about this woman at all for us to even make a reasonable judgement.

[@jackiesmith2831]

Please look into it - the shit this man is talking and trying to portray about the case is so infuriating

[@SHAMMYsSPOT]

This guy is adamant that she is innocent. Yet he doesn't know the details of how the child died?

[@onyx9857]

He lost me at “she’s the mother of 12 and pregnant.”

[@jamisonmunn9215]

Really that is when he gained me. When I hear mother of 12 and pregnant with twins I think killed her child? Which one? How? Why? So only that one?

[@Dobiant]

lol I paused it and scrolled down to see if I was the only one.

[@DamienYuen7718]

@@jamisonmunn9215 I think welfare mother taking in tax dollars. The govt pays mothers for each kid. This scam is real.

[@turkish8969]

@@jamisonmunn9215 at what point did the guest ever talk about the facts of the case? Oh he didnt, because he is an anti white, pro criminal dirtbag

[@readingtips2690]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/epCTdZeobpuNlac the truth media Don't want you to see.. Exposed7o 😱

[@ladyphoenixgrey3923]

This is why you don’t ever listen to people who don’t actually know what they’re talking about. This dude goes on and on about this case trying to sound like he’s super involved but he doesn’t even know what she’s charged with. Women can kill their children. You’re clearly letting that cloud your judgement on this. Grow up dude.

[@jamisonmunn9215]

Yes but right when I heard mother of 12 and pregnant with twins I had my doubts. Why that one? How are the other ones alive? For what reason? So society should take care of all her kids now? How has one died and the rest are all alive under her care?

[@ladyphoenixgrey3923]

@@jamisonmunn9215 It could’ve been an accident or she could just be a baby factory that doesn’t give a sh*t about any of them. Entirely my point. This man gives zero details but still tells you she’s innocent cause his bleeding heart can’t fathom she’d do such a thing. She might be innocent, this guy clearly doesn’t actually know.

[@jamisonmunn9215]

@@ladyphoenixgrey3923 i agree but at least he says goto the innocence project and they are in it also. Its not like he is the only one. I think the likelihood of accidental death probably goes up after maybe even the second kid not to mention kids 4-12.

[@beckoninglight16]

@@jamisonmunn9215 the autopsy showed she had been beaten on her head and had hair pulled out, broken arm that wasn’t treated, and bruises. She was getting abused. Sometimes a mother with that many children will have bitterness and anger at the child who acts out the most or gives the most trouble.

[@calebfoster1832]

We love you Joe. Never change.

[@lancermaza6726]

We got your back Joe. Never change

[@calebfoster1832]

@@lancermaza6726 💯

[@joehartselle]

I’ve listened to this guy in the past, and he always knew and shared the details. This is different. He is advocating for this lady, but says he doesn’t know the specifics… just trust him because he trust the people saying she is innocent. This seems careless on his part. As for Joe, I appreciate the fact he offers a platform for discussion, even when I disagree with the guest. It’s great! Keep it up Joe!!!

[@rkaye2009]

Why do you need details? You know there is systemic injustice, just donate $$$ to Innocence Project or continue to be part of the problem

[@thealmightyjesus7018]

1 Corinthians Chapter 15 Is The Ressurrection Creed That Paul Had Received Only 3-5 Years After Jesus Crucifiction And Had It Written 20 Years Later In A.D 54-55 And Jesus Went On The Cross At A.D 30 Also The Tel Dan Inscription States The House Of David On It And The Moabite Stone Records Mesha Just Like The Bible Worshipping Yahweh The Pool Of Siloam When Jesus Heals The Guy Is Also A Real Place And The Book Of Acts Gets The Environment Of The First Century Correct Which Myths Do Not Do It States Drusilla And Felix Got Married While Josephus The Jewish Historian Records The Same Thing And Believing In The Jesus Of The Bible And Christianity We Are Saved By Grace Not Of Ourselves It Is The Free Gift Of God By Repenting And Putting On The Lord Jesus Christ While Jehovah Witness And Mormonism Do Not Think They Are Saved And Are Earning Salvation To Get It However The Biblical Jesus Is The Only Way And Its Not About Achieving It Rather It Is More Like Receiving Christ To Be Saved In Him And Your Works Are The Fruit Of Your Salvation Amen And 2 Timothy 4:11 States Bring The Cloak I Left At Carpus Indicating It Was Authentic And Jesus Is More Worth It For Everlasting Life And Gary Habermas Has The Greatest Case For The Ressurection And Dr. James Tour On KZbin Also Shows The Reasons It Wasnt An Accident God Bless Jesus Is Lord Five Scientific Reasons To Believe In God kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqW2iayoet-LqZY The Case For Design kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJ2bYWWifaaea7s Jesus And His Ressurection Video kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2HMdYGCrdKKjK8 Gary Habermas On Jesus kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6rCdZVqh9yNla8 The Reliability Of The New Testamentt inspiringphilosophy.org/defending-christianity/

[@thealmightyjesus7018]

#JESUS FIRST For By Jesus All Things Are Created I'm Here For The News Of The Kingdom Of God And While Religion Has You Doing Good Deeds To Earn Salvation The Biblical Jesus Died And Rose Again For The Forgiveness Of Sin And By Grace You Are Saved So You Walk In Him For He Loved Us So We Love The Lord

[@thealmightyjesus7018]

#JESUS FIRST These Resources Are To Be Viewed Through A Gentle Context Amen Jesus Is Love And The Only Way To Be Saved Is Through The Jesus Of The Bible The Creator And It's The Free Gift Of God But May We Honor The Lord Jesus And No Longer Live For Ourselves But To The Lord

[@thealmightyjesus7018]

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[@hopee7386]

I have doubted the innocence project for years. This man acts the social, emotional development of people living in poor communities are what caused this tragedy. All types of abuse happens in all areas of society and that history of abuse should not excuse a victim of abuse of any crimes committed by them in their future. People should take responsibility for their actions because they are responsible for their actions. This doesn’t seem legitimate.

[@BoyBlue7295]

He clearly states the only reason he’s pointing out her abuse is to show her susceptibility to cracking and committing “social suicide“, and under pressure just going along and admitting guilt to something that she may even think she WAS responsible for .. you don’t understand if you’ve ever been in that situation the pressure is unbelievable.

[@BoyBlue7295]

He is not trying to excuse her of the crime because she was abused. He’s saying there’s very little evidence to believe she even did it .. and on top of it rich kids in Texas who kill four people while drunk and speeding through heavy traffic get off Scott free

[@dmacrolens]

Have either of you researched the facts of the case?

[@BoyBlue7295]

@@dmacrolens admittedly no I have not .. but it’s not the main point here .. often people are pointing to the abuse of an abuser as a reason for their behavior, but I was just pointing out that that is not in fact what Josh Dubin is doing here .. And the “facts” are often subjective themselves, where are they coming from, how do I know that these are the “facts”, I believe this guy when he says there is scant physical evidence. I think it’s a moot point because I think the governor is going to commute this one

[@BoyBlue7295]

But unbelievably horrific for her if she is innocent. And the fact that we just don’t know one way or the other is the basis For the saying “proven guilty”, andhow the system is supposed to work, and this guy is explaining how it most often doesn’t .. but we are fucking know that. And we all fucking know that you can buy your way out most of the time

[@robotkai7904]

5 hours isn’t shit, and never would I admit killing my child when I was innocent. No matter the circumstance. This dude is ridiculous

[@diddy2612]

If you look at the evidence it sounds like she told the truth when she confessed. This woman is right where she belongs

[@thelord3561]

1 Corinthians Chapter 15 Is The Ressurrection Creed That Paul Had Received Only 3-5 Years After Jesus Crucifiction And Had It Written 20 Years Later In A.D 54-55 And Jesus Went On The Cross At A.D 30 Also The Tel Dan Inscription States The House Of David On It And The Moabite Stone Records Mesha Just Like The Bible Worshipping Yahweh The Pool Of Siloam When Jesus Heals The Guy Is Also A Real Place And The Book Of Acts Gets The Environment Of The First Century Correct Which Myths Do Not Do It States Drusilla And Felix Got Married While Josephus The Jewish Historian Records The Same Thing And Believing In The Jesus Of The Bible And Christianity We Are Saved By Grace Not Of Ourselves It Is The Free Gift Of God By Repenting And Putting On The Lord Jesus Christ While Jehovah Witness And Mormonism Do Not Think They Are Saved And Are Earning Salvation To Get It However The Biblical Jesus Is The Only Way And Its Not About Achieving It Rather It Is More Like Receiving Christ To Be Saved In Him And Your Works Are The Fruit Of Your Salvation Amen And 2 Timothy 4:11 States Bring The Cloak I Left At Carpus Indicating It Was Authentic And Jesus Is More Worth It For Everlasting Life And Gary Habermas Has The Greatest Case For The Ressurection And Dr. James Tour On KZbin Also Shows The Reasons It Wasnt An Accident God Bless Jesus Is Lord Five Scientific Reasons To Believe In God kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqW2iayoet-LqZY The Case For Design kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJ2bYWWifaaea7s Jesus And His Ressurection Video kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2HMdYGCrdKKjK8 Gary Habermas On Jesus kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6rCdZVqh9yNla8 The Reliability Of The New Testamentt inspiringphilosophy.org/defending-christianity/

[@thelord3561]

#JESUS FIRST For By Jesus All Things Are Created I'm Here For The News Of The Kingdom Of God And While Religion Has You Doing Good Deeds To Earn Salvation The Biblical Jesus Died And Rose Again For The Forgiveness Of Sin And By Grace You Are Saved So You Walk In Him For He Loved Us So We Love The Lord

[@thelord3561]

#JESUS FIRST These Resources Are To Be Viewed Through A Gentle Context Amen Jesus Is Love And The Only Way To Be Saved Is Through The Jesus Of The Bible The Creator And It's The Free Gift Of God But May We Honor The Lord Jesus And No Longer Live For Ourselves But To The Lord

[@thelord3561]

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[@rachelstephens3656]

He is declaring that Melissa Lucio is the vulnerable one in this scenario? And he lies in saying that there was no evidence of the child being abused - there was LOTS of evidence; not to mention that she had suffered a broken arm weeks earlier that had never been medically seen. I have no pity for a parent that abuses their own child simply because they themselves were a victim of abuse. Life is simply a series of choices. She made horrible ones. And her child died.

[@SavoyPrimeable]

The fact that he mentioned Rodney Reed in a positive way says all I need to know about this guy and his “due diligence”. Rodney Reed is beyond guilty, and anyone who closely monitored the details of that case knows this.... Only let off because of mob pressure from people like this clown.

[@aaronsanislo860]

Yep. The Innocence Project is a complete joke.

[@MatthewsGauss]

Same for Julius jones

[@garryclelland4481]

no physical evidence of abuse apart from " bruises covering her body, bite marks on her back, an arm that had been broken weeks earlier and was missing hair that had been pulled by the roots from her head. An autopsy showed the girl had been beaten on her head and the injuries were not caused by a fall down some stairs."

[@bigbadword]

This guy is trying too hard to make us feel a certain way. Just tell it like it is without the performance.

[@FuhqEwe]

Well if he did that there'd be zero chance he could convince you of her innocence.

[@justus7181]

@7:59 He says he doesn't know enough about the details of the case. She admitted to abusing the child, the autopsy photos, the ones you can see show horrendous abuse of 2 year old Mariah Lucio. However, 2 year old Mariah did fall down a long set of wooden stairs that are located on the outside of the building leading to a 2nd story apartment, her family members report that she fell all the way from the top to the bottom, Melissa Lucio(mother/on death row) was not present the day 2 year old Mariah fell. The fact that she admitted to abusing 2 year old Mariah is what allowed the prosecution to go after her, nonetheless the death penalty was an over reach. If anyone fell down those steps and died two days later from a brain hemorrhage there is enough reasonable doubt to conclude that was sufficient cause for the injury that caused 2 year old Mariah's passing. A Federal Court turned over the conviction, citing "an injury cannot lead to a capital punishment.". The only argument presented by the Prosecution which argued for the death penalty but against life in prison came about because she was attacked in a woman's prison multiple times. The Prosecution used the attacks to highlight that Melissa is a 'disruption', therefore she should be executed. Melissa Lucio's been in prison for over 15+ years, if she's been a model prisoner that should negate the Prosecution's argument against life in prison. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nn-VlHqNfLRsbpY The stairway 2 year old Mariah fell down kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2KkZadnaLSSf9E Confession with autopsy pics inside of video

[@Wichi1505]

Love you Joe!!!! Don't let the media bring you down! I found your podcast 4 years ago, when I was going through very hard times after having a stroke, and listening to you, everyday, helped me so much! I've been a fan since!!! You and your guests are awesome!!! Be patient! The media will start burning someone else in a few weeks, as usual! - Cheers from Margarita Island, Venezuela