The Cheapest Ever SWISS Tourbillon is Unbelievable

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Watchfinder & Co.

Watchfinder & Co.

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@watchfinder
@watchfinder Жыл бұрын
We know you want more watches…. click here: linktr.ee/watchfinder
@ErikS-
@ErikS- 3 жыл бұрын
For the ones that want to quickly know what "cheap" stands for: 9:33 "costs just a hair over 8,000 usd"
@alejandroalartiz9451
@alejandroalartiz9451 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@srfhdx5584
@srfhdx5584 3 жыл бұрын
For a skeleton tourbillon, an AP with a simmilar movement will set you back 130 retail and then 200-400 resale, or a Jacob will set you back 400
@adityapattnaik1405
@adityapattnaik1405 3 жыл бұрын
8k ain't cheap, but given it's a tourbillion, it definitely is.
@1967-l7h
@1967-l7h 3 жыл бұрын
@@adityapattnaik1405 A lot tourbillions are priced at 100k+. Considering a lot of swiss made luxury watches are investments since they generally hold their value (not counting inflation) the price of a watch can some times be irrelevant if you have enough disposable income. 8.000 CHF isn't a bad price for a watch enthusiast wanting to own one of the most coveted types of complications in the industry.
@ShredderBenjamin
@ShredderBenjamin 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, don't care if it's a Tourbillon or a Tourantula... If this is supposed to be a humbling story it's far from it at over 1/3 my annual salary!
@TacticalTightwad
@TacticalTightwad 2 жыл бұрын
My OCD can't stand the location of the seconds pointer on the Tourbillion. The pointer should be opposite the hairspring stake for better symmetry.
@samiam9059
@samiam9059 2 жыл бұрын
My Tressalux with 3d face still works from the 70's... Not that this is a long time but a real beauty(imo).
@ansariaden
@ansariaden 3 жыл бұрын
Its more of the least expensive rather than cheapest, coz even this tourbillion aint cheap
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Least expensive or most accessible is a good way to put it. Tourbillons are costly to engineer and manufacture in Switzerland and we have done the best we could given the challenges it presents.
@ansariaden
@ansariaden 3 жыл бұрын
@@HORAGE yeah, it looks really cool and elegant!
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
@@ansariaden Thank you very much 😊
@pacovl46
@pacovl46 2 жыл бұрын
Watches like these are precisely why I’m not into quartz watches! Watchmaking art at its best! I also like the fact that it’s a skeleton and not an open heart watch because I hate the way open heart dials look! Well done and finally a tourbillion from Switzerland that’s not totally and utterly overpriced!
@atsukoC-m9k
@atsukoC-m9k 2 жыл бұрын
Dont sleep on quartz. Theres some really fascinating pieces with crazy tech and romantic stories behind them. Check out the omega f300hz movements, or the bulova accutron. On par with mechanical with the all round beauty.
@pacovl46
@pacovl46 2 жыл бұрын
@@atsukoC-m9k yeah, the Accutron is nice, but it's not a quartz watch. Quartz watches definitely have their place in homology and they can do things mechanical watches can't, but they're not for me. The only quartz watches I'd ever buy is a diving computer or a solar powered watch, but that's about it. I forgot spring drive powered watches. They're a quartz/mechanical hybrid and absolutely awesome!
@jukesr
@jukesr 3 жыл бұрын
Why go to the expece of putting an arrow on the turning tourbillion but then not add second markers ?!
@andifelsl
@andifelsl 3 жыл бұрын
We need this arrow to ensure COSC certification can be done as they need a visual indicator to start and stop measuring time. Originally we did not have this which means we would have to apply specific working dials and hands to indicate the position during COSC certification. Having this arrow makes it more easy and we think it draws some nice attention for the observe ;-)
@jeffbergstrom
@jeffbergstrom 3 жыл бұрын
Love the watch. Really dislike their logo stenciled on the crystal.
@TomasLjung-jj5dp
@TomasLjung-jj5dp 5 ай бұрын
So good design in tourbillon a master in watchmaking so long time ago must say Bravissimo ☆☆☆☆☆
@jukebox8156
@jukebox8156 3 жыл бұрын
Far out! Incredible watch, think I might need to take a second and third job so that I can afford one :D
@seanbirtwistle649
@seanbirtwistle649 2 жыл бұрын
"... i gave up and played dark souls instead" 🤣😂
@jjlink300
@jjlink300 2 жыл бұрын
“I gave up after twenty minutes and played dark souls instead” a man of impeccable taste as always
@sharkonland36
@sharkonland36 2 жыл бұрын
Elden ring now, well soon anyways.
@hathaway.1166
@hathaway.1166 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine him playing Sekiro
@tipphilips8252
@tipphilips8252 2 жыл бұрын
The one who didn’t made a watch company though (jokes)
@timothyjuarez5306
@timothyjuarez5306 Жыл бұрын
He knows where his priorities are.
@mdemian1968
@mdemian1968 Жыл бұрын
He’d say Elden Ring now.
@stephenleonchase6929
@stephenleonchase6929 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest though it is quite a pretty watch as well. Plus good on them for steping out and making their own watch.
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for checking it out 👍
@humanitech
@humanitech 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most beautiful forms of creative insanity in mechanical watch making .. I've seen in a very long time. Wish them great success and will start the saving process.
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Its been an amazing, but incredibly challenging journey. Come by and visit us sometime. The door is always open. Thank you.
@finnandrei5745
@finnandrei5745 2 жыл бұрын
@@HORAGE you are way better than other microbrands sprouting out like mushrooms and your craftsmanship is a testament that you are making luxury with wits. :)
@tomchung3880
@tomchung3880 2 жыл бұрын
So what! It’s not a Rolex.
@tomchung3880
@tomchung3880 2 жыл бұрын
It’s still not a Rolex!
@finnandrei5745
@finnandrei5745 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomchung3880 lick your Rolex then 🤣🤣🤣
@KMartineauMuisc
@KMartineauMuisc 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Talking hands person, this channel and everything you do, is absolutely amazing. Thank you. I dont speak for all watch lovers but I will anyway... thank you for bringing such cool things to us!
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Very well said. They do incredible work and we feel honoured to have been featured on their channel.
@TheSnookerGym
@TheSnookerGym 2 жыл бұрын
His name is Andrew Morgan - wonderful
@almostnoodles
@almostnoodles 3 жыл бұрын
You’re not the only one who dropped something to play Dark Souls instead!
@UlverKM
@UlverKM 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I’ve “dropped” my controller several times.
@SVTBansheeman
@SVTBansheeman 3 жыл бұрын
I raged quit and got a refund on steam. Back to pubg I went🤷‍♂️
@UlverKM
@UlverKM 3 жыл бұрын
@@SVTBansheeman completely understandable, my friend. I never had to patience or friends for the BR genre.
@larsschwurack963
@larsschwurack963 3 жыл бұрын
It's probably more frustrating than starting a watch brand 🤷🏻‍♂️
@anonymousstout4759
@anonymousstout4759 2 жыл бұрын
Git gud scrubs
@matzmx
@matzmx 3 жыл бұрын
This was a beautiful video. Anyone else agree that just watching a video of macro shots of wheels, cogs and pallet forks is mesmerising?
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Even we are drooling. Incredible video work by Watchfinder.
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
@Eric Erickson Many thanks. You will have to visit us sometime in Switzerland.
@davidkaplan5517
@davidkaplan5517 3 жыл бұрын
it highlighted the poor utilitarian finishing.
@MarkFenimore
@MarkFenimore 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidkaplan5517 Nothing is perfect but looks pretty dang good to me considering at this price there's NOBODY finishing that many bevels by hand. The lattice pattern means a ton of facets and they really do look even and well polished to me. Bravo, @HORAGE I am impressed. I donated to your cause and am still hoping to win the $1 watch!
@dieterspecht36
@dieterspecht36 3 жыл бұрын
@@HORAGE Beautifil I am already checking the website! Gorgeous watch by the way congratulations guys!
@klaassiersma4892
@klaassiersma4892 3 жыл бұрын
8 grand, man that's a steel for a Swiss made tourbillon.
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@jimmurphy6095
@jimmurphy6095 3 жыл бұрын
I love the "Industrial Skeletonization" look to it. Beautiful watch.
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jim!
@grantflippin7808
@grantflippin7808 3 жыл бұрын
Would that be "brutalism"? Or am I wrong?
@andifelsl
@andifelsl 3 жыл бұрын
@@grantflippin7808 recently I watched some very interesting documentary about brutalist architecture in Berlin. I knew some of the buildings from my school trips to Berlin. At that time I did not understand much and thought it is ugly. Today some 25 years later I start to understand a lot more about that architectural direction. Probably we are still far away yet from this style 😉
@anonymousstout4759
@anonymousstout4759 2 жыл бұрын
Brutalism has lot of asymmetric I think this is could still considered as industrial style
@krishorst4734
@krishorst4734 3 жыл бұрын
You see the fact that a husband and wife duo can produce this watch and put it on the market for 8k.......you gota wonder what the mark-up on the big brands is! Scary stuff.
@xchazz86
@xchazz86 3 жыл бұрын
Just wait til you order a replacement strap from the big brands.
@RexofCaledonia
@RexofCaledonia 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair. It is my opinion that, the top 5 most desirable watches have little to do with their brands in regards to price, it is the market and buyers that are feeding this ridiculous mark-up carousel. And frankly, the carousel only affect those that can't afford the watches. The ultra wealthy are not particularly affect. In fact, it could be argued that this system keeps the circle tight and easier for them to enjoy the most revered watches.
@atsylor5549
@atsylor5549 3 жыл бұрын
@@RexofCaledonia I agree with you to a certain extent. It’s true the brands don’t set the prices but they do have a lot more control of whether they go up and down than endometrial else. They set the production amount. And they keep the prices high by intentionally limiting the amount of watches they produce each year. The only reason you have to get on a waiting list for a Rolex that hasn’t had any major changes in years is because they want it that way. They could easily increase the production on their oldest most popular models. But they don’t won’t to saturate the market and bring their value down
@Neonregenesis
@Neonregenesis 3 жыл бұрын
Marketing, executive lavish salaries, boutiques rent, etc
@andifelsl
@andifelsl 3 жыл бұрын
@@RexofCaledonia Yes indeed it does not affect the wealthiest. Luckily those people spend their money still on expensive stuff. Perhaps we should look at this phenomenon as something like redistribution of wealth without major government and tax involvement. 😉 For the ones who take enough time they will find a lot of very good watches out there. It is the group dynamics which is the problem, because it is more easy to follow what others believe is good and it is much harder to get down the rabbit hole and identify an unknown product or brand with much less reference as being perhaps equally as good in design and technicality. That's the art.
@AhmadRaza-qo6vc
@AhmadRaza-qo6vc 3 жыл бұрын
I own this. Never thought I'd see it here
@erimeasalem9171
@erimeasalem9171 3 жыл бұрын
Lucky you
@rhodes1591
@rhodes1591 3 жыл бұрын
… respect !
@RexofCaledonia
@RexofCaledonia 3 жыл бұрын
Where you aware of the story behind the watch before purchase?
@andifelsl
@andifelsl 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a Sunday and I am sitting here in our garden with some of our team members having delicious fish and pizza bread from Jamie Oliver’s pizza oven and we have a great time with this amazing review. 👌
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support Ahmad. It's wonderful to see it on the channel here. Hope to see you in Switzerland one day.
@manoflego123
@manoflego123 3 жыл бұрын
This watch is phenomenal looking. I absolutely love the grid design for the skeletonized movement.
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful to hear. Thank you!
@gokulpnambiar8806
@gokulpnambiar8806 3 жыл бұрын
Something is wrong with people who disliked this video
@andifelsl
@andifelsl 3 жыл бұрын
There are always some people who don’t get along with their own life. It is indeed an amazing story being told. Very well done and for a person like me who is involved into this since 12 years it is amazing to listen to it.
@mrpicky1868
@mrpicky1868 2 жыл бұрын
i am guessing next batches will be much more expensive)
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 2 жыл бұрын
We aim to keep pricing within the same realm. It depends entirely on finishing, materials, etc.
@river1duck
@river1duck 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! A casual “Dark Souls” reference for us gaming nerds. 😀
@andifelsl
@andifelsl 3 жыл бұрын
If we would not consist of nerds we probably wouldn't have done that 😅
@sfincione2000
@sfincione2000 2 жыл бұрын
I've been obsessed with the Tourbillon for a long time now. It's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in a watch. It's good to see that even today, over 200 years after its invention, it's still captivating the attention of people.
@e3dave744
@e3dave744 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not usually a fan of skeleton dials but I couldn’t stop looking at this one. Stunner👏👌
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you and very happy you like the looks of Tourbillon 1
@shareurtube
@shareurtube 3 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@rodsalvador3608
@rodsalvador3608 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I subscribe. To learn about amazing feats like this! I'd feel like a Spaceview 2020 paired with this would provide you with a most interesting collection for the price of one Sea Dweller.
@andifelsl
@andifelsl 3 жыл бұрын
Taking notes, we heard that inspiration already one time ;-)
@thomasginsburg4792
@thomasginsburg4792 3 жыл бұрын
John F Kennedy: “We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard. Horage: Hold my beer.
@andifelsl
@andifelsl 3 жыл бұрын
I have some Tegernseer Beer 🍻 for you here. Always welcome to have one with all of us here in Biel
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
We love this. The Felsl Andi isn't kidding about beer. Come and visit us for a cold one!
@jomiongoo
@jomiongoo 3 жыл бұрын
Personally you make the best reviews about horology on youtube. A true watch collector or enthusiast admires and recognizes art when its seen. These days people with money just collect for popularity and show off. Keep up the good works bro.
@spencerlocke7443
@spencerlocke7443 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit!!! They’ve done it. The breath of fresh air this industry has been dying for. Modularity, customizable, beautiful, industrious, efficient and effective. This will not only sell its ass off but will likely propel Horage into the upper ionosphere of major watch manufacturers in the sales arena. We need this watch just as much and likely a lot more than we need A. Lange Söhne watches. Both fulfilling the two greatest consumer needs
@landonstirling4338
@landonstirling4338 3 жыл бұрын
Your comment really touched us. Thank you very much for the kind words. Our door is open to you here in Switzerland.
@spencerlocke7443
@spencerlocke7443 3 жыл бұрын
@@landonstirling4338 maybe one day, but for today it is all I can do to convince my three girls and boy on the way that we are not poor. Thankfully style is not simply dictated by money so my children win awards at school for being the best dressed and although I do get to take a second every few minutes to admire the complexity, beauty, and craftsmanship of an automatic watch, I’m a long way off from the fine skilled hands of Switzerland. Cheers
@landonstirling4338
@landonstirling4338 3 жыл бұрын
@@spencerlocke7443 Wonderful to hear and very well said. Thank you.
@CDines
@CDines 3 жыл бұрын
After years of thinking of buying a watch, I finally might get this. Really impressed!
@tomchung3880
@tomchung3880 2 жыл бұрын
@@CDines l will definitely contemplate to get one especially since Rolex will not condescend to sell me their inferior products.
@khalid969
@khalid969 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see the Swiss getting out of the "finishing business" and into the business of watch engineering.
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
We love to hear that. We are heavily invested in engineering first above all else. Thank you!
@jackmehoff7430
@jackmehoff7430 3 жыл бұрын
This is a big deal, this company is made up of Mavericks and they have achieved a huge feat with this timepiece. If you can support them with a purchase, do it. It’s a win win.
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@paulhelmuth6012
@paulhelmuth6012 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard of them before now. But WOW, what a story. And what a watch!
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Thank you.
@ansonjim3486
@ansonjim3486 3 жыл бұрын
As a happy owner of the Tourbillon 1, very happy to see it on your channel!
@morten170
@morten170 3 жыл бұрын
Is it worth it? Are you happy that you bought it?
@ansonjim3486
@ansonjim3486 3 жыл бұрын
@@morten170 Worth every penny if you ask me. Quality is top, remember they used to supply components to many Swiss brands. Price aside, the specification is still very impressive. The only question would be if you like the skeletonized design, and if you care about brand and resell value
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Anson, it's Landon here. Thank you for the support and for the kind words.
@morten170
@morten170 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for answering. It is a beautiful watch and a differential as well. It Will be on my watch list. Pun intended 😂
@russianmgtowo8232
@russianmgtowo8232 3 жыл бұрын
Well goddam! I pre ordered one. Amazing story, love that dial, amazing.
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, thank you so much!
@russianmgtowo8232
@russianmgtowo8232 3 жыл бұрын
@@HORAGE Did not expect you to reply, Thank you guys for providing such a grear story and quality to the watch industry, it has always upset me that so many amazing brands are overlooked. Happy to support you guys, Cheers.
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
@@russianmgtowo8232 Thank you so much. You are always welcome to visit us and feel free to reach out anytime. We live from our supporters and the door is always open to them. Thank you.
@loaded2820
@loaded2820 2 жыл бұрын
Please, please, please keep the quality videos, photos, commentary. Please, please, PLEASE lose the clickbaity titles.
@noice9709
@noice9709 3 жыл бұрын
A truly inspirational story of modern horology! Wish the internal framework had more elegant curved shapes, all of those gears kind of look imprisoned. But for those who enjoy industrial design, this is definitely a great watch! As always, spectacular videography and wonderful journalism. Thank you for posting such amazing content.
@andifelsl
@andifelsl 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing content. I know the watch since we make it, but can't stop looking at those shots and listening to the story by myself ;-)
@hoping67
@hoping67 2 жыл бұрын
I hear you but I kinda like it's medieval gate type of look, everything nowadays is curved.... including myself ... 🍻 🍻 🍕🍕
@patrikfernstrom7607
@patrikfernstrom7607 2 жыл бұрын
Did you say Dark souls? Great taste in games too Apparently 😊
@omfgtroller
@omfgtroller 3 жыл бұрын
the moral of the story is - give up on your dream and play dark souls
@andifelsl
@andifelsl 3 жыл бұрын
Prithee be careful 😉
@biohayzer
@biohayzer 3 жыл бұрын
I’d say the big players are spitting feathers now this has been created. Remember when they all lost their shit after Tag Heuer released a $15,000 tourbillion!😆
@cy4624
@cy4624 2 жыл бұрын
Don't think the big players are worried at all. In this game, top players know brand/status is everything and clients want to pay alot for the image/status. Tag and 15k wouldn't even be considered by those looking at Breguet,ALS, AP, for the sheer fact it doesn't cost enough....look at the success of RM following this strategy..overpriced mediocre pos In reality but its owners are interested in flexing "cost" above all
@biohayzer
@biohayzer 2 жыл бұрын
@@cy4624 The big players may not have been ‘worried’ about the Tag Heuer and may not be ‘worried’ now but they let their feelings be known and slammed Tag Heuer for producing and selling such a ‘cheap’ tourbillion watch saying that it could seriously affect the Swiss watch industry🤷🏻‍♂️
@sjsisdhdjdkssosjdhxnx
@sjsisdhdjdkssosjdhxnx 2 жыл бұрын
As a member of the big players club, I would laugh and pity anyone who wears this.
@biohayzer
@biohayzer 2 жыл бұрын
@@sjsisdhdjdkssosjdhxnx Why though? Just because you’re a watch snob that can afford a Richard Mille for hundreds of thousands of dollars it doesn’t mean that the ‘cheaper’ watches are garbage.
@sjsisdhdjdkssosjdhxnx
@sjsisdhdjdkssosjdhxnx 2 жыл бұрын
@@biohayzer because for that money you can buy a decent watch that is not trying to be what its not. A good example is a true super car like a Ferrari and someone wasting money on a lookalike car thinking he can compete with Ferrari owners at a car show. Everyone can understand that when it comes to cars the same goes with watches. You cannot compete or compare your Chinese tourbillion or a budget Swiss tourbillion with works of art like Patek, JLC, Lange, FP Journe, Vacheron or AP. I like RM but disregarding the hype, even they cannot compete with the apex watches of those brands that I mentioned.
@garrisong
@garrisong 2 жыл бұрын
That’s very impressive, I love seeing successes such as this. Further laments my belief that the mechanical wristwatch is the finest piece of machinery man has ever made.
@davek8386
@davek8386 2 жыл бұрын
I wish this brand all the success, what a ballsy story with ridiculous hurdles to overcome at every step! But I just can't get past the name "Horage"
@Lukas-kh5gu
@Lukas-kh5gu 3 жыл бұрын
surreal. I am probably going to buy this. 😳
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Feel free to reach out with any questions you might have. Thank you in advance for the support!
@draakisback
@draakisback 2 жыл бұрын
I've preordered their supersede watch. Its 5k for a micro-rotor gmt with an integrated bracelet. No other company offers such a deal.
@slartybartfast5368
@slartybartfast5368 Жыл бұрын
I thought the Tourbillon was a pointless innovation for a wrist watch, more a pocket watch feature, for a watch that stays on the same plane for prolonged periods, as a means of reducing ware in vulnerable areas, designed by a clever English chap and now it’s really just a showcase of what manufacturers can achieve rather than a device for improving time keeping in a wrist watch….. so 8k is WAY to much for a gimmick in my book.
@Airman..
@Airman.. 5 ай бұрын
The whole mechanical watch thing is gimmick by today's standards, so why do you bother?
@slartybartfast5368
@slartybartfast5368 5 ай бұрын
@@Airman.. because I appreciate the engineering.
@68madison
@68madison 3 жыл бұрын
Just found my first luxury watch! Thanks
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear. Let us know if you have any questions.
@TerryBollea1
@TerryBollea1 Жыл бұрын
But it WASNT certified. It doesn't say swiss made at the 6. Thats the law. You know this. Why lie?? What are you trying to sell??
@zakrobertson8160
@zakrobertson8160 3 жыл бұрын
The watch is absolutely astounding. The lore behind it alone has me drooling. Grail for SURE.
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful to hear! Thank you 😊
@knightsrooks4156
@knightsrooks4156 2 жыл бұрын
Mechanically Beautiful
@seshelbow336
@seshelbow336 2 жыл бұрын
i've watched a lot of your videos......never subscribed.....but for some reason when you asked me subscribe this time i felt compelled. I'm more into engines than watches, I'd love to see you do a video on a great engine in exactly the same style.......Hint HInt Honda K20 or F20C
@kohlguy8656
@kohlguy8656 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful !!!
@chop661
@chop661 3 жыл бұрын
Had no idea this existed before this video. Thank you Watchfinder for giving us a glimpse into this great story. Love the watch, striking and modern. The chamfered square grid dial design is very telling of its modern CAD heritage and I absolutely love that.
@andifelsl
@andifelsl 3 жыл бұрын
Its not easy to make something which is unlike something else without getting odd. I think we found a very good balance here and everybody is very happy. When you wear it on a daily basis this design never gets boring, but it is also not intrusive. Team did a very good job.
@chop661
@chop661 3 жыл бұрын
@@andifelsl couldn't agree more!
@johnpinion8033
@johnpinion8033 2 жыл бұрын
Only 8000 Incredible! At that price you can afford to buy 2 or 3 in case you loose one!
@rohandalwadi1162
@rohandalwadi1162 3 жыл бұрын
$8k for this masterpiece is a steal! I would prefer this over a submariner.
@ant7699
@ant7699 3 жыл бұрын
It is beautiful. I like the submariner though.. However this watch has a nice skeleton look.. That square hatch design is great. A second hand for me would be good...also an auto winding feature is missing.. You get the tourbillon though........ Hmmm tough decision.
@nearlyretired7005
@nearlyretired7005 2 жыл бұрын
Cheaper than the the fifty seven year old Speedmaster Ed White that I'm buying next week!
@tommoex
@tommoex Жыл бұрын
Love the dark souls comparison at the start
@donaldneo4317
@donaldneo4317 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing piece at that price. However there is only 19 Jewels on a tourbillon movement? Can't help but notice the pallet fork tip did not use jewel or is it that silicon escapement doesn't require it?
@tzuyuhuang6368
@tzuyuhuang6368 2 жыл бұрын
yes this is silicon escapement. and good engineering work will reduce the jewels amount ;)
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 2 жыл бұрын
A low jewel count is a sign of good engineering. More jewels simply means there are more friction points by reducing friction points one can squeeze the maximum potential out of a movement.
@styx4947
@styx4947 3 жыл бұрын
They always find the best and unique nooks and crannies of horology
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
We are very happy they found us and shared our story with their community.
@styx4947
@styx4947 3 жыл бұрын
@@HORAGE Thanks for the personal reply, you're not going to see that from Patek or AP anytime soon. That means something to me. I myself am trying to get to school and become a Watchmaker. After all humans invented Time, mastery of it is well worth dedicating ones life to
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
@@styx4947 You are very welcome. Great to hear you are pursuing watchmaking. Be sure to keep us up to date on your developments and feel free to come by should you be in Switzerland.
@khanshaz
@khanshaz 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent job 👍👍
@finished6267
@finished6267 2 жыл бұрын
This is IT! I've been mostly focused on vintage watches, as they are sometimes still somewhat affordable, and attainable, and there is value in vintage which is missing in modern watches; scarcity, and style. My goal has been to get a Rolex, either an Explorer or Oysterquartz, but for the money, THIS just makes more sense on so many levels. It's not "mass produced", the finishing is really world class, and the tourbillon takes it to a level unseen anywhere else in the market. Congrats!!!
@HORAGE
@HORAGE Жыл бұрын
If you missed out on Tourbillon 1 be sure to check out our latest tourbillon project Lensman 1!
@davefantarrow3774
@davefantarrow3774 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing looking watch first time I've really liked the look of a tourbillon on display. They often look out of place. Could you lend me eight grand so I can buy one?
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful to hear. We are trying our best to make the Swiss tourbillon as accessible as possible. We will keep pushing forward to try an do what we can. Thank you.
@sananselmospacescienceodys7308
@sananselmospacescienceodys7308 2 жыл бұрын
A Tourbillon movement is a nice novelty but it seems to me it's just a gimmick. Does it really increase accuracy and if so by how much?
@tzuyuhuang6368
@tzuyuhuang6368 2 жыл бұрын
We originally were skeptical too, but we can assure you that it improves the run rate in the hanging positions. This is very advantageous when you want to pass COSC certification smoothly.
@fayssalk
@fayssalk 3 жыл бұрын
Horage, this is such an inspiring story and great accomplishment! i think the habring `duo has competition as far as duos :-)
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you it's great to hear our story resonated with you.
@noahberger159
@noahberger159 3 жыл бұрын
Rather than asking us to subscribe you should change the title of this video to “The History of Horage”
@Khiladi_99
@Khiladi_99 3 жыл бұрын
If you have seen more than 4 of his videos and still haven't subscribed, you don't have a heart.
@HughSheehy
@HughSheehy Жыл бұрын
Ugly watch though. And remind me again - what's the point of a tourbillon?
@eugenehong9668
@eugenehong9668 3 жыл бұрын
i do wish they dont inflate their prices, stay true to their initial philosophy and bless us with more of these creations
@andifelsl
@andifelsl 3 жыл бұрын
Top product for acceptable price is our guiding principle and typically this principle is very sticky with us ;-)
@rodrigopch242
@rodrigopch242 3 жыл бұрын
Is Horage considering doing more dress oriented watches-complications such as monopussoirs or enamel dials? It would be interesting to see this
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
We are always evolving and have some interesting projects on the horizon 😉.
@RexofCaledonia
@RexofCaledonia 3 жыл бұрын
@@HORAGE Congratulations on the realisation of this piece. This is truly a stunning and remarkable watch.
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
@@RexofCaledonia Thank you for the kind words!
@mhk5272
@mhk5272 2 жыл бұрын
I am sold, but the watch is also sold out
@wataki_watcheswatakiwatche3160
@wataki_watcheswatakiwatche3160 3 жыл бұрын
Fabulous story of grit & determination. What a price. Very keen.
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@seangotts6470
@seangotts6470 3 жыл бұрын
7 months ... howq in the hell did they do that ... they camp in the drawing office the entire time .. wow
@TheOneInYellow
@TheOneInYellow 3 жыл бұрын
OMG you're a fellow Sunbro \[T]/ 🌞 May you be grossly incandescent in your horological and gaming hobbies 🤘🏽 Also HOW AMAZEBALLS to make a tourbillon on a purely technical level, sans horologerie decoration to save on cost! 🤯😃
@andifelsl
@andifelsl 3 жыл бұрын
Try to shine some light to the travelers in search for a tourbillon;-) Amazeballs thanks for this one... as a non native English speaker that made my day 😍
@dennischua3956
@dennischua3956 2 жыл бұрын
What if this watch accidentally slips your hand and you drop it on the floor. 😆
@tzuyuhuang6368
@tzuyuhuang6368 2 жыл бұрын
should be ok? this watch was tested and wear through a Triathlon event with damage.
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 2 жыл бұрын
This same watch was tested on the firing range a few days prior and as Tzuyu mentioned it was also tested in a triathlon.
@teacherkiat
@teacherkiat 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful watch, quality and simply masterful! And as usual, a brilliant review Watchfinder! 👍 🙏
@LUV2T8KU
@LUV2T8KU 2 жыл бұрын
Nice watch and good video
@JohnDonovandeVries
@JohnDonovandeVries 3 жыл бұрын
This is truly one beautiful watch, I wouldn't even wear it, it would just be on display in the house and I would look at it everyday. awesome video, really makes one appreciate the "time" that goes into a piece like this,
@cooliodiablo4571
@cooliodiablo4571 3 жыл бұрын
For 8 grand you’d have to be mega damn rich to wear it and risk scratching any part of that s.o.b.
@feckman
@feckman 3 жыл бұрын
Not "cheap." Inexpensive. Nothing about this watch looks cheap.
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Great to hear this 😊
@feckman
@feckman 3 жыл бұрын
@@HORAGE That's why I bought one. :)
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
@@feckman And thank you very much for the support. We can't wait till you have the tourbillon on your wrist. The door is always open here in Biel. Come by for a visit sometime.
@jimking2206
@jimking2206 3 жыл бұрын
If the Rolex waiting list were a video game, it would be Dark Souls.
@andifelsl
@andifelsl 3 жыл бұрын
😂👏
@sylinmino
@sylinmino 3 жыл бұрын
Those specs on that tourbillon are INSANE. That's a beautiful story.
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful to hear you discovered us here. Feel free to reach out with any questions.
@sylinmino
@sylinmino 3 жыл бұрын
@@HORAGE if I'm being honest, I love what I'm seeing but I personally have a hard time buying any watch over 500USD if I can't try it on in person. But if y'all ever come to NYC, or I travel to one of your locations, I definitely will be checking out the collection first thing!
@keltheb
@keltheb 2 жыл бұрын
how did I stumble on to watch videos and can't stop watching them?
@hullabamoo
@hullabamoo 3 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable 😍 your videos never disappoint. Thank you!
@LeGeekzPig
@LeGeekzPig 3 жыл бұрын
I was really impressed by everything I heard, then my jaw dropped when he said the base material is 904L Steel! What a gorgeous time piece
@andifelsl
@andifelsl 3 жыл бұрын
No corner cutting here 😉
@PaddyMcMe
@PaddyMcMe 2 жыл бұрын
If I had $10k to put towards a watch it'd either be a White Birch, Blue Santos or this. The story alone is worth half the price. Whilst the other two are established pieces of beauty, refinement, history and innovation in it's own way, this Horage would feel unmistakable special, and from a collectors stand point, is the kind of watch that 20-30 years from now could be seen as a Proto work of a great house or movement.
@b233332
@b233332 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this is even cheaper than the TAG's.
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@logipilot
@logipilot 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the whole time: nice watch, close to 100.000$ for shure ...
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
That is great to hear. We will keep working on delivering more value. Thanks again.
@royleow
@royleow 3 жыл бұрын
looks better than the Zelos tourby
@klahowya_capo
@klahowya_capo Жыл бұрын
Wow! I mean WOW! This will be on my hit list!
@Panzerfaust9161
@Panzerfaust9161 3 жыл бұрын
For only 8 grand that’s one very beautiful timepiece. 90% Swiss is outstanding.
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@SuperAlchemi
@SuperAlchemi 2 жыл бұрын
Just wait, one day i will buy it.
@odysseusinspace9704
@odysseusinspace9704 3 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful display of engineering. Complements to Horage on this achievement, and I’m looking forward to others following in their footsteps.
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the kind words.
@Robbe1984
@Robbe1984 3 жыл бұрын
For the love of God, please change that background music. It sounds like something from a shopping network
@jbbrabant
@jbbrabant 3 жыл бұрын
You’re making me drool again. Fascinating stellar presentation!
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Watchfinder turned the drool factor to 11. Thank you.
@Robert-vw3od
@Robert-vw3od 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the first time I’ve ever watched a tourbillion, i’m about to buy the k2
@cyanah5979
@cyanah5979 3 жыл бұрын
Jaw dropping story and timepiece. Thanks for the video :)
@locutusdborg126
@locutusdborg126 3 жыл бұрын
One huge advantage to major brands is that it is easy (ok, maybe not easy) to get your watch looked at and sent for repair, using OEM parts. If you own a Ming or this brand and you live in Iowa and you want it fixed, good luck, because they will have a very small factory and an even smaller section dedicated to repairs. AND, older brands like Patek, Rolex, Omega, etc. have made their movements sturdier over the years so they are far more reliable than in the past. Newer indies may not produce such robust watches out of the gate.
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Both small and big brands have their advantages, however there are still small brands like us and a few others that are invested in going above and beyond to provide the level of service and reliability of the major brands you mention. The exception is not the rule, we wish it were however being the exception is incredibly challenging and the reason most simply would play Dark Souls as Watchfinder said in their video. As it pertains to most smaller brands and even to some medium to larger sized brands most outsource their product development and rely primarily on third party movement and agencies to bring their creation to light, this also goes with their service. In fact many do not even have the product enter their office or country where they are located, most are simply shipped factory direct. This is because the barrier to entry is extremely high and access to the minds and suppliers to help them achieve this are for the most part in Switzerland. A brand that is located elsewhere in the world reliant on an agency and movement supplier in Switzerland is much more at risk of underserving their customer base. Horage is in an interesting position in that we have our own engineering and watchmaking team and we have been engineering movements since 2008 with what we feel are some of the most talented minds with a deep understanding of industrial process management. Our location is in Biel/Bienne which is the same home of two of the brands you mention Rolex and Omega, they are both about 1 kilometre either side of us. Us like them rely on close partners within our town and surrounding area to bring our movements to life. In fact all parts aside from our silicon escapement that we engineer, but produce in Germany come from within a 35km radius of our town, even the big guys have to buy their silicon parts and try to snap up suppliers whenever possible. For 20 years now we have provided some of the biggest in the Swiss watch industry parts and project management to ensure their projects come to light. We have learned a lot about the pains of a big brand and also realized the disconnection most have from design to production and most importantly from brand to consumer. Sturdiness of movements is something you mention and this comes from time and industrialization processes like the brands have done which you mention. We too have been invested in industrializing manufacture processes to ensure quality product and service at all costs. Our engineers are watchmakers and that means the very person developing our movements is also de-risking them heavily over years of prototyping. Additionally when it comes to service those same persons are the ones servicing the watches which provides an even higher level of service than the big brands could offer. By being smaller we have many advantages as we can be far more agile and have a direct line between customer service and the very engineer that developed the movement. Customers are provided with a much more transparent inquiry, sales and service process then they would experience from the big groups. The world has changed a lot especially within the last year. Digital communication has helped expedite process for those that embrace them and bring their customers along for the ride. After all the customer is the only one that keeps a brands lights on, all others in a brands network rely on a brand to go above and beyond for their customer. We communicate very openly with our customer base and unlike many of the larger brands we have implemented live calls from our production and invite our customers in on calls to see just what might be going. If a watch requires service we have a few locations in the world now, however to ensure we provide the best we prefer that watches come to our facility in Biel, to do so we arrange courier pickup from the customers location and it ships directly to us, after service it is shipped via courier back. We have had very positive feedback on this and this is because our customer service is closing tied to production and watchmakers. There is a reason most are just discovering us now and that is because when most brands start budgets are allocated to marketing. We have had many ask us to spend more on marketing, but if we did that we would have to take resources from engineering, watchmaking, and ultimately de-risking of our production. Rather than do the hard stuff first the easiest, shortest and less costly road is to outsource and double down on marketing. This is completely ok, because after all watches are a hobby and the vast differences in this industry keep the fascination of our mechanical world alive, but at some point there should be a point smaller brands start thinking like a bigger brand and investing in their own infrastructure and IP to ensure they can provide long term support to their community. Most unfortunately over spend on marketing and continue to leave the innovation to 3rd parties. Our approach and why most are only discovering us more recently has been again due to our determination to focus on the hard stuff first. A deep understanding in industrial processes has helped us to ensure a stable movement supply, IP security and security in movement supply as an independent. By doing this we can come to market with a sound product, sound service and be able to stand on our own amongst the best of them. There was a lot to unpack there and you and anyone else is welcome to visit us in Biel or join in on any of our live calls from our facility to see just how we go about making watches. Thank you.
@tiktakvlog2721
@tiktakvlog2721 3 жыл бұрын
Thats why I love watching Watchfinder...Its a continous process of Learning.God bless WATCHFINDER.
@andifelsl
@andifelsl 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed amazing content creation here👏
@DashDrones
@DashDrones 3 жыл бұрын
Good value for €7k
@HORAGE
@HORAGE 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jiriurbanek211
@jiriurbanek211 3 жыл бұрын
The roughness of this watch is strangely nice and suits the watch quite well.
@andifelsl
@andifelsl 3 жыл бұрын
We like deep brushes… hard to make and just gives this brute look but still refined.
@misterpsych3804
@misterpsych3804 Жыл бұрын
good luck finding one to purchase
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