The Christian Problem of the Symbiote Suit (ft. Dr. Williams)

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CHRISTIAN GAMER

CHRISTIAN GAMER

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After playing marvels spider-man 2 for the ps5, I wanted to talk about the connections between spider-man's symbiote suit arc and Christianity. What can us Christians learn?
#christiangaming #spiderman2ps5 #spiderman2

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@joaopescusa
@joaopescusa 8 ай бұрын
"Power Corrupts" That's something I always take from the symbiote arc
@christianmccauley7340
@christianmccauley7340 8 ай бұрын
Whaaaat? Drawing black suit Peter MUST be easier than the regular suit. All that webbing man? It’s just gotta be two colors plus shading for the black suit, I wonder what made it so difficult?
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER 8 ай бұрын
a lot of the difficulty with it was for "shading" that were the white reflective parts and if spider-man put his arm in front of his body, they would have to draw with a white outline basically to separate the arm from the body. So the black suit solved one problem, but added another. There was also the fact that it was supposedly just a lot of ink from what I've heard.
@ScytheJackal
@ScytheJackal 7 ай бұрын
At least it becomes Anti-Venom later on. I think it’s symbolism for how he overcomes the corruption from its power
@hipstersephiroth3722
@hipstersephiroth3722 2 ай бұрын
Thank you being so kind all mighty loving God help me and these people become more like u
@zacharybosley1935
@zacharybosley1935 8 ай бұрын
This is interesting. I don't believe we've heard a proper Christian interpret of the symbiote saga. There's definitely meat to the reading, as relying on the symbiote could definitely feel like an apt metaphor for the appeal of sin,
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER 8 ай бұрын
I agree that sin works as an Christian interpretation of the symbiote suit. On the podcast BREAD ENDS (kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYGaaqhnd7Gpqck), my co-host pointed out that same interpretation.
@aspieanarchist5439
@aspieanarchist5439 8 ай бұрын
@@CHRISTIAN_GAMER Whilst I`m not much of a believer anymore, like Eddie Brock I was brought up Catholic in Southern California and the original concept behind Venom was for the Symbiote to bond not with Eddie Brock after leaving Peter but a mother who blamed Spidey for miscarrying, however MARVEL editors vetoed that idea as they thought making a grieving mother a villain would be too insensitive and controversial for their sales.
@dwayneasher6765
@dwayneasher6765 7 ай бұрын
Do you think it's okay to have supernatural powers in RPGs
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER 7 ай бұрын
I don't tend to have problem with it. It's situational, but for the most part I separate a good chunk of that from our reality since, a lot of it is there for fun interesting gameplay. I do have more of a problem when it comes to more real demonic usage of things, but usually in those situation I can avoid that stuff. Basically, I'm chill with playing magic systems in games like Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy
@philipho5635
@philipho5635 8 ай бұрын
What? You still haven't finished the game? XD I had platinum the game, I can overlook the woke things in it and I think it is still a fun game. I like the spin they put on the whole symbiote "family". Really like how you talk about addiction and thank you so much for your sharing. As for the struggle between responsibilities in ministries and sacrifices, I think it is almost like it is overlapping with Spiderman. Spiderman is so relatable because he struggles with his responsibility of being Spiderman and his life and how sometimes he is not just sacrificing his own time/opportunities but also how it affects people that he cares about around him as well. Wonder if you have any thoughts on Kraven the Hunter as well?
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER 8 ай бұрын
Sadly no😅. For one, I’m having to barrow my brother’s ps5 for it and two, I’ve just been busy. 😂
@philipho5635
@philipho5635 8 ай бұрын
@@CHRISTIAN_GAMER Hope you get your own PS5 for Christmas 😆 I had updated my commend after watching the whole video (I was too surprised you haven't finish the game 😂) really good discussion for Christians! 👍
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER 8 ай бұрын
We'll have see if I do for christmas - at the very least, I'll find a way to live without. Glad to hear that you enjoyed the conversation. I saw your updated comment, and yeah, I would agree about Peter Parker's character struggle in general. It's such a interesting part of his story. About Kraven the Hunter, I personally don't know much from him, but from a little bit that my brother has hinted to with this adaptation of kraven, its kind of cool to see his actions/plans happen, but I honestly need to play more to really have an opinion.@@philipho5635
@MasterTemplar781
@MasterTemplar781 8 ай бұрын
I don't have platinum yet the only trophy i need to unlock to get platinum is the one were you have to defeat 25 enemies by using a takedown without getting seen on a webline. I only got 3 outta 25 bc i never used it. And my save file is already 100% and tbh i don't want to start a new save file to do this unless it's new game + but that hasn't come to the game yet.
@christianmccauley7340
@christianmccauley7340 8 ай бұрын
Ugh, don’t say woke, that shit embarrassing. If you don’t like black people, women, or queer people in your media, make it yourself. Believe it or not, people from those groups _work on_ the media you consume, and would like to be able to see themselves in it too.
@thelongestjohn
@thelongestjohn 8 ай бұрын
In the comics Eddie Brock's religion is a big part of his character
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER 8 ай бұрын
Really? I’ve never heard that but I love it. Definitely need to read more venom comics!
@thelongestjohn
@thelongestjohn 8 ай бұрын
@@CHRISTIAN_GAMER Yeah, he's still portrayed as very holy to this day in the comics
@aspieanarchist5439
@aspieanarchist5439 8 ай бұрын
@@thelongestjohn I mean it was made a bigger part of his character after he started being written as less of a sociopathic, vengeful villain who hated Peter because Peter accidentally exposed Brock`s incompetence and corruption as a journalist when they didn`t even really know each other outside of working at rival NYC newspaper companies(The Daily Bugle and Daily Globe respectively). In Brock`s early appearances, his Catholicism was basically just there to add to his guilt and self-loathing before bonding with the Symbiote in the Church where Peter got rid of it.
@456jm
@456jm 8 ай бұрын
I take it you were already aware of Spider-Man using a devil horn formation with his hands to shoot webs? That should be a no go for Christians IMO ESPECIALLY the "One More Day" Story Arc. Peter Parker compromises his own faith to make a deal with the devil (Mephisto in this case) to save Aunt May's life causing him to divorce Mary Jane Watson. I can't really fault Peter on this one since I wouldn't be surprised If Dan Slott was an occultist where a more competent writer would've found a way for Peter not to compromise his own faith to save the life of a loved one. He registers as being a Protestant which I guess leans toward Christianity. Miles Morales? Not sure.
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER 8 ай бұрын
Researching the spider-man’s hand sign 🤟(not 🤘), it turns out it’s actually the American Sign Language for “I love you”. That’s pretty cool. Most people agree that the “One More Day” story arc sucks. It’s one of the most hated spider-man arcs, alongside clone saga. With arcs like these, you gotta remember that there are different people telling different stories with the spider-man character. We saw this with the two examples I used of the The Animated Series Spider-Man and the Sam Ramie trilogy. A lot are similar, but there differences to facilitate the story. So some things that creators makes stick with a main part of the character (like the symbiote suit) and there are things that are left behind different issues (like the One More Day).
@ceruleanelectricthrone485
@ceruleanelectricthrone485 8 ай бұрын
Great channel
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER 8 ай бұрын
THANKS!
@alexandervazquez7770
@alexandervazquez7770 8 ай бұрын
To be honest they did the best they could with the MJ missions and that was having less of them and making her stronger. In the first mission the first thing you do is bum rush a literal trained hunter and knock them out; the last MJ mission SPOILERS INCOMING DON'T READ BEYOND THIS POINT IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED THE STORY OF INCOMNUACS SPIDER-MAN 2, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED: is literally just a third person shooter and you have a boss fight with a giant symbiote.
@christianmccauley7340
@christianmccauley7340 8 ай бұрын
I get why they want her to have missions, she’s an active part of Spider-Man’s life and she does shit so they don’t want to side line her but honestly? I just don’t have a lot of fun playing as a non superhero. (Spoilers, scroller beware) Yeah so later in the game Mary Jane becomes scream, really cool shit. Now this wouldn’t work great with the story of the game, but it woulda been cool to have some missions as Mary Jane/scream. Getting to use all those fun tendril powers and shit, it’d be dope. Maybe Mary Jane actually got turned into scream when Peter was away, and you’d get a mission trying to sneak away from venom, but he’d catch you. Then, you’d have a mission trying to sneak attack Peter as scream, and then you’d get to fight (and maybe even beat if you want that girl power moment) Spider-Man as scream.
@necrosis6037
@necrosis6037 8 ай бұрын
Christian’s when not everything is about and for them:
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER 8 ай бұрын
I don’t understand your comment
@sepherioth5568
@sepherioth5568 8 ай бұрын
Bro what are you on about 💀
@necrosis6037
@necrosis6037 8 ай бұрын
The symbiote is meant to be like an addiction. Not everything has to be about sin or Christian, as much as y’all think everything is about you
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER 8 ай бұрын
@@necrosis6037 I agree that not everything is made with Christianity in mind, but that doesn't mean I can't find similarities and can't point out the differences. It's fun.
@ethansingleton4827
@ethansingleton4827 8 ай бұрын
@@necrosis6037eh, just because it’s not about sin and Christianity doesn’t mean it’s not a good illustration to use. While belief systems are objective in their claims, Art is subjective and is open to reinterpretation, because Art is not always dogmatic.
@tateanimatonstudio-qp1js
@tateanimatonstudio-qp1js 8 ай бұрын
Eh
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER 8 ай бұрын
Eh
@evancookman9853
@evancookman9853 8 ай бұрын
Eh!
@benjaminmishler5585
@benjaminmishler5585 8 ай бұрын
0:25 I don't recommend playing the rest of the game. It contains woke propaganda. There are numerous videos covering the subject.
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER
@CHRISTIAN_GAMER 8 ай бұрын
I haven’t personally heard that from my colleagues who’ve touched it. I’ll keep that in mind if I continue though.
@Moth_Moon
@Moth_Moon 8 ай бұрын
who cares? if a few rainbow flags hurt your feelings that badly then you need to get off the internet.
@benjaminmishler5585
@benjaminmishler5585 8 ай бұрын
@@Moth_Moon Or not buy the game. I was letting @CHRISTIAN_GAMER know because I don't want anyone to be deceived into buying what they think is a great game only for it to shove wokeness down his or her throat. Especially a sibling in Christ.
@Moth_Moon
@Moth_Moon 8 ай бұрын
@benjaminmishler5585 I mean, alr, I respect your opinion have a nice day.
@benjaminmishler5585
@benjaminmishler5585 8 ай бұрын
​@@Moth_Moon Thank you. You too.
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