The Cinemascore Game (Dead Meat Podcast Ep. 201)

[@xenopuslaevis1740]

Polar Express DID indeed get an A+ Cinemascore, so there has, in fact, been a horror movie with an A+.

[@goob8945]

LOL!!!!

[@weirdguy1495]

But in reality, here are the horror movies with A+ on Cinemascore: Terminator 2 and The Passion of the Christ. That is the full extent.

[@ALilMayhemMayhaps]

@@weirdguy1495neither are really horror

[@cupofcait]

Those dead eyes man!

[@aGhost68]

The Polar Express is the best Christmas Horror movie

[@Emo_Squirtle]

James just saying what other movies got A+ while Chelsea was trying to figure out the 80’s movie killed me

[@apotatofarmer2871]

Bro “schindlers list, a+” was fucking incredible

[@OtherSideLLC]

@@apotatofarmer2871 Graessle dying in the background was so funny

[@jakeywakeysobakey]

Graessle has one of those laughs that makes you laugh.

[@blueeyesredlipstick4228]

My favorite moment of this episode is James chirping "Schindler's List, A plus!" and Graessle promptly losing his shit off-screen.

[@brendan4784]

And then when he goes Homeward Bound and Graessle yells from offscreen “NO SHIT”

[@Dilzik]

James' eye contact any time he mentions Five Nights and the "lost his brother" meme. I'm DYING

[@82Jaster]

One of the most surprising CinemaScore's ever for a horror movie, and one that really shows that horror's CS scale is different from other movies, is Hereditary receiving a D+. It opened at just 13m domestically, and would go on to make more than 3x's that (44m).

[@99legcentipede]

harold and the purple crayon got a higher score on cinemascore than hereditary LMAO

[@sheqaa_here2991]

The “Cillian Murphy was in a random ass horr..OMG” was a great realization

[@NateBeeman]

I totally forgot he was in Quiet Place 2. I saw that movie in theaters, but I guess it was kinda forgettable.

[@coolnerdlll6053]

I thought James was talking about Dylan Arnold being in Halloween Kills. When he said Quiet Place 2, I literally facepalmed.

[@Bjhorn279]

Just like Chelsea I too forgot

[@seanc41556]

I mean.... 28 days later? 😂

[@krolik1157]

I thought this meant Red Eye

[@puppetmaster-oo2qe]

I never heard anyone call James Cameron “King Jimmy” but now it is definitely in my daily vernacular

[@coolnerdlll6053]

He's been married five times. There's no way he hasn't been called that at least once.

[@aarongaray2595]

​@@coolnerdlll6053 when James said king jimmy my mind went to jimmy king from ready to rumble 🤣🤣🤣.

[@tiphanieseantay958]

Same

[@PunkkRatt]

I LOVE how visibly confused Chelsea is the entire time James is trying to explain his box office tangent

[@NateBeeman]

​@@cosmicurgencyWhat is your deal? Were you a theater owner that went bankrupt?

[@cambricjimenez4882]

Maybe she just doesnt agree because it is a weak argument. Sure there were arguably less leisure activity to burn money on in the 1950's but the population was a hell of a lot smaller too with less access to getting to a theatre....so his logic doesnt quiet track.

[@bunchoflemons]

The amount I was SCREAMING Silence of the Lambs at Chelsea, knowing full well that in Chelsea's position my mind would go blank too... sorry Chelsea.

[@allaboutcars19]

Same! I was yelling avatar and Star Wars! Then I was thinking nope girl just lost every movie from her mind. I know that feeling.

[@WB-H]

I was able to find a few that weren’t included…sure there are probably more… Aliens (1986) - A The Lost Boys (1987) - A- Child’s Play 2 (1990) - A- Silence of the Lambs (1991) - A- Zombieland (2009) - A- The Conjuring (2013) - A- Dracula Untold (2014) - A- Goosebumps (2015) - A The Conjuring 2 (2016) - A- Get Out (2017) - A- A Quiet Place Part II (2021) - A- Five Nights at Freddy’s (2023) - A-

[@Bjhorn279]

Thank you for this list wanted to see them all

[@ChaseJonas75]

I wonder if Aliens was too much action for the original poster on Reddit to include on the list. Along with Zombieland. I don’t really think it would be considered horror by most people.

[@Sir-Seaniel]

Aliens is an action movie through and through. Zombieland I agree with

[@victoriamongiardo1015]

Aliens is undeniably horror, to me, it's way less action than you remember if you haven't seen it recently.

[@elle.mack.wednesday]

“Movie that came out this year that really spoke to a specific audience” I was willing to bet my entire life James was about to say Cocaine Bear

[@aarongaray2595]

Gresel saying bullshit when james says "homeward bound A+" cracked me up 😂

[@aarongaray2595]

69 likes nice thanks meatys

[@winwynwin]

Possibly the best moment in this fantastic episode.

[@ajmaguddayao9835]

Ironically, Emily Blunt was also in both Oppenheimer and A Quiet Place Part II

[@ddp9381]

It's such a joy to watch someone who is passionate about a topic explain it. I love it every time Chelsea gets to show off her researching skills, and I loved it today with James' box office trivia!

[@regularspecial1]

james "who dont fail" and chelsea failure to read it followed by even harder doubling down of WHO DONT FAIL as she descends into laughter is hilarious

[@tylerzimmerman757]

I love how James kept listing random movies with an A+ score

[@chazzer6545]

james if you don't already, watch Dan Murrell for box office stuff, he's by far the best person that talks about it

[@woodyhitya]

Dan’s gotta be the most underrated cinema KZbinr. He’s so passionate and informative

[@chazzer6545]

@@woodyhitya been watching him and charts since it was at screenjunkies/fandom and love it

[@krhodes866]

I fucking love Dan dude, I get excited anytime charts come out

[@egmorox13]

Ran to the comments to recommend Dan the man Murrell!! He digs into the data *and* goes into the nuances of *why* the data could be what it is. GREAT stuff

[@VernoMusic]

^the people above this comment are cool^

[@HalloweenYearRound]

Me: "It's Lost Boys Chelsea!!! It's Lost Boys!!!" Also, totally get why Mother! got an F. It was marketed as a mainstream horror movie and the studio knew exactly what they were doing

[@samos4924]

Plus, even Chelsea, who likes it, apparently hated it leaving the theatre. Imagine getting asked to grade it immediately.

[@fadingnebulous]

“Would this be a movie for the girls and the gays?!” If you didn’t love Chelsea before, you do now. 😂😂😂

[@b3z3jm3nny]

52:43

[@princeapoopoo5787]

as a girl and a gay I gotta approve

[@welfareprincess]

I hope you guys never stop doing these podcasts, I love just listening to you two talk about horror and do weird random games! Very entertaining

[@bhgemini]

James' straight delivery for SL getting an A+ and then Graessle instantly losing it in the background was so great! I laughed with y'all

[@nickwheeler5396]

James has one of the sassiest leg crosses of any man I've seen

[@punchymcgee]

I was SCREAMING Silence of the Lambs at the screen that was brutal to watch 😅

[@alexisbidule5555]

Same

[@coolnerdlll6053]

I had it when James said it was a "lady rocks" movie, knowing it was a 90s thriller than some might not consider horror. Before the "lady" hint, I was going back and forth between Silence of the Lambs and Se7en.

[@suzanneclark7706]

Me too! This film was eating at my intuition the entire episode

[@filmfangirls9163]

I am ashamed to say I got it only after he said it won awards. And it's one of my favorite films!!

[@Milbrandt]

Thank you Chelsea, James, and the entire Dead Meat team for all the great content this year!

[@cherrygarcia2310]

James reading off stats is just candy for my brain

[@NateBeeman]

Jurassic Park also got an A CinemaScore (if we're counting Jurassic Park as horror)

[@NateBeeman]

Aliens also got an A score.

[@Bori7enko]

Thank you guys. Have had a tough year but nothing compared to others in this world. Stay positive Dead Meat fam. Things could be worse, it’s up to you to make them better.

[@fashionablechangeling1988]

Mike Schmidt (from Five Nights at Freddy’s) is gonna become the new podcast running gag isn’t he ?

[@samos4924]

He lost his brother

[@warbloobloo2513]

God i love that it was killing james when she kept saying Oppenheimer trying to guess who it was.

[@basicindiebro]

Your game episodes are my favorite and my comfort content

[@shrimpe2876]

Seconded

[@Chris951021]

James chiming in every now and then with movies he didn't think would get a high score, while Chelsea is struggling with thinking about the answers is hilarious.

[@jasonlucejr6997]

A quite place 2 is really good. Yah theres some dumb character decisions but the direction is really good if not better than the first. I love that world and its atmosphere so i dont really care if its just more of the same thing when that thing is fantastic. The opening flashback is one the greatest sequences ive ever watched.

[@pennywisethedancingclown2702]

Obviously we’re all here for horror, but as an avid movie watcher in general, it’s always interesting hearing your opinions on different genres!

[@SnuggieMaple]

James just randomly saying movies that had A’s and A+’s through the whole episode 😂

[@NateBeeman]

Dan Murrell did a great video on what CinemaScore means when he was at Screen Junkies. Also James, if you don't watch Dan Murrell's videos on box office, I would check him out. He's my favorite source for box office analysis.

[@samos4924]

I legit gasped when you said Wolf Creek has a F. *cries in Australian*

[@vandjack17]

"I would hate to live in a world where horror was like a Marvel release" Actually, I think we kinda lived through reality in the mid-90s through to the early 00s with the slate of big-budget, action-infused Creature Features like Deep Blue Sea, The Relic, Ananconda, Deep Rising and the Brendan Fraiser version of The Mummy. I'm just not sure where to define the cutoff in this era - You definitely can also count stuff like Jurassic Park 1 and 2 but maybe Tremors doesn't count because it was too low budget and independent.

[@TheDimensionDweller]

Glad I decided to have the video on as I did chores instead of the podcast like usual! Nice to read the Cinemascore card on the screen

[@Pentaholic88]

James if you want to see good box office news, check out Dan Murrell’s charts with Dan. He puts so much effort into his show every week and goes into detail on how movies will do.

[@coltonfrausell9047]

It took so long for me to get used to the fact that Chelsea wasn't the one giving hints in this one.

[@mahoushoujoprimarina14]

Two things to mention... Happy to report that as of September of 2024, Inside Out 2 has now surpassed the Lion King remake as the highest grossing animated film now. Second, Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba Mugen Train is currently the highest grossing R-rated animated film, and is the highest grossing film to have released during 2020.

[@ameliam5066]

Not me screaming American Psycho at the screen even though 1) you could comfortably argue that it’s not horror at all and 2) I googled it after and it literally has a D.

[@Jello.jessoo]

I appreciate Chelsea so much more now for her dedication to the games❤ Also I'm too excited for the Royal Rumble, I've been waiting for it since November

[@cpikoart]

Y’all put the paper score card on screen and I am now realizing that I participated in a Cinemascore poll for Knock at the Cabin 😂 I gave it a C and it in fact got a C score lol I love hearing how much James knows abt this box office stuff!! Fun flip on his usual confusion during games haha

[@ElliotfromOrlando]

Have you done a game yet like “Clue” where you try to guess which killer, which weapon, which horror movie locale the crime takes place? That could be fun

[@Thatboymojojo]

I nearly died when I heard Graessle laughing at 37:57. I shouldn’t have taken such a deep hit of my pen tbh 😂

[@paulbauer9017]

Me yelling “say Silence of the Lambs” for like half an hour. ☠️

[@Kammy_dafox]

As soon as I heard that James was running the game this time immediately knew that he was going to get revenge on Chelsea for everything that she's done to him Edit:I stand corrected Edit...again:I'm gay

[@Salmon_Samurai]

Royal Rumble 2024?! Hell yeah, that was one of my favorites you've done!

[@weretacotm207]

This was a lot of fun to watch Chelsea play this time, not that I don't enjoy James figuring trivia out. Hope to see more of them switching back and forth who runs the games and who plays, maybe with Gresal (sorry if I spelled that wrong) and Zoran too.

[@VernoMusic]

Spent at least a year processing how Hereditary could’ve gotten a D+ when it’s the best movie ever made, but then I remembered they called it “the next Exorcist” or something like that in the trailer.

[@artandcard]

As a Michigander transplanted in Alaska, I feel like I'm listening to family in the Mitt when I watch your KZbin channel. I know you're in California, but that sound is all below the bridge, baby.

[@whitneyellison]

I’m over here’s casually screaming Silence of the Lambs at Chelsea lol.

[@sarahd.5244]

Another reason horror movies are often so profitable is that they're generally rather cheaply marketed. Especially the recent glut of horror targeted at younger audiences: buy up some digital ads leading up to the premiere and you're set. It's hard to track down exact marketing budgets, but some superhero movies (especially DC in the past) are estimated to spend so much on marketing that even with a huge box office they don't turn a profit. Grabbing attention is so vital now, but so much more difficult. I tend to view Cinemascore as how well audiences were primed by marketing for the movie they ended up seeing. If their expectations were met or exceeded, they give it a positive score. If there was a sudden twist, genre blend, or unhappy ending they hadn't been prepared for, they give it a bad score.

[@mortua_conjuga]

i openly loved avatar from the moment i saw it in the cinema. i'm so thankful to the people who made fun of it because i get to enioy more avatar films. king james' spite brings joy to me.

[@HeavenIsEmpty1031]

56:22 hwat?? (Marking this for my own amusement when I’m sad)

[@OS-dd1bn]

I actually did a Cinemascore poll with some friends of mine after The Marvels, the ballot looked the exact same as the one shown.

[@nailsarelife]

The Polar Express did, indeed, get an A+ Cinemascore.

[@rgbbri]

This was such a fun one to play along with! Harder than I thought to guess the movies. Silence of the Lambs was no surprise though!

[@FlashNeko417]

The strikes probably also played havoc with what did well in theaters both because of those wanting to support said strikes mistakenly thinking staying away would help and because it disrupted a bunch of release schedules. Hell, Godzilla Minus One probably wouldn't have been given as wide and extended a release as it got if the Hollywood machine had been running as normal and now it's one of the highest grossing foreign films of all time and there's talk it's even up for several Academy Awards. It's been a hell of a year for us tokusatsu fans.

[@sockgoblin2942]

The first 15 minutes is like Movie Economics with James and I love it

[@josecallejas6132]

Usually not a fan of when they divert to these games, but this one I actually found very interesting!

[@UNKN0WNSHAD0W]

ROYAL RUMBLE 2! ROYAL RUMBLE 2! ROYAL RUMBLE 2! I'm So Excited!

[@Lyree]

11:25 Is Molly squeak snoring in the background? She’s so cute.

[@Noobie2k7]

Loved rewatching this in video form to see jist how much James clearly reveled in getting to torture Chelsea with one of these games for a change.

[@drew_harrison]

You should do it again just to talk about this years box offices cause it’s my favorite part

[@joshuapatino._.4075]

Happy holidays I love you guys!

[@maddiwilliams8876]

Child’s Play was the only one I got before Chelsea! As a girl and a gay, I can confirm!

[@ShinjiSixteen]

Incredible topic to review! Great episode, as always! And, of course, thank you for being lovely people

[@main9613]

The amount of times I was screaming CHILDS PLAY 2 is laughable😂😂😂

[@Pumba0306]

Love the passion in this episode

[@Polygonyall]

regarding legs this is absolutely what happened with minus one. they only intended to show it for a week and then they were like "oh you guys like this? have another week" and then it lasts in theaters until feburary

[@krhodes866]

I also got into box office stuff this year! Bless Dan Murrell such a good channel

[@colinbaldwin313]

Thanks so much for explaining how film profit works. I've always wondered why a movie needs to make at least twice its budget to succeed.

[@NateBeeman]

I'd recommend another youtuber, Dan Murrell, if you're interested in learning more about box office.

[@colinbaldwin313]

@@NateBeeman Thanks.

[@JDubs9999]

9:37 According to TheNumbers, Joker is the only Rated R movie to make a billion. At least if you don’t adjust for inflation.

[@josh_a_pet7871]

I can't wait for the Robert Eggers Nosferatu. I believe that we might have the next best director on our hands.

[@SnuggieMaple]

13:55 if Jaws is counted it’s at close to 500m now with all the rereleases

[@mariaku6605]

I love the Hausu clock behind James! Happy holidays!

[@coyoteclockworkstudios3140]

"Just white-washing their reputation." XD Thank you, James! I have rather gleefully told people that Ed smacked Lorraine around. More people need to know!

[@82Jaster]

And somehow that's not even the worst thing he'd done. Lorraine's contract with New Line had a special clause about things that were off limits from being shown. That clause includes depicting them as "engaging in crimes, including sex with minors, child pornography, prostitution or sexual assault". And if you know about Ed, then you know why that was included. To say that the Warren's were trash is an understatement.

[@DC19967]

I have been screaming since the beginning, THE 80S MOVIE IS THE LOST BOYS

[@FidoJeZpruzeny]

❤ pleasure to watch yall

[@larryb6002]

Since James covered it, how is Aliens not on the list? It has a solid A on cinemascore

[@NateBeeman]

Same with Jurassic Park. I just think the list he was using didn't classify them as horror.

[@randomaccountmadeyup]

The guy who invented this passed away today. RIP.

[@andychiu860311]

I’ve listened to this episode four or five times and just now realized when James gave the hint for Cillian Murphy in Oppenheimer the same hint also applied to Emily Blunt and neither of them realized that

[@carlosandrews5361]

Whenever this podcast idea was brought up in past podcasts or James's live streams, I thought they meant music scores and that Chelsea was going to guess the highest ranking music in horror😅

[@andrewrichards9513]

I thought is said cinemassacre, witch is an amazing channel, also hosted by a cool dude called james 👍

[@SnuggieMaple]

5:29 not anymore Chelsea you can rest easy now knowing it’s been broken

[@TheSoulessPoet]

I saw Mother in theaters and I was blown away. Everyone else leaving the theater were clearly disappointed.

[@Dkline08]

38:44 asking the real questions here

[@TrekBeatTK]

Good hints, James! I got silence of the lambs long before your many successive hints

[@zekebrott7130]

Hey James and Chelsea! Loved the episode, even though me and my mother were incredibly frustrated by the end of it lol Big fan of the channel for going on 4 years now and am very happy with the recent format expansion for horror updates! I've got a favor to ask or a recommendation for a possible update segment. I'm huge on streaming services and would LOVE to see a streaming segment with good/notable horror movies coming to/leaving soon from different streaming services. Sort of a "Hey guys! Like the Friday the 13th franchise? Well good news! All the Paramount produced films are now available on (so and so)" thing

[@ryanhall7607]

I know it isn’t super horror relevant, but hearing the movie/box office stats was really fun.

[@TheAnkle]

The Avengers of horror is definitely the conjuring series

[@HauntedHeme13]

Can't wait for the Dead Meat Royal Rumble!!

[@CellSpex]

It's possible the B score wasn't always so bad during a time when theater going was more prominent, nowadays people need to be REALLY invested or excited to even both going

[@coolnerdlll6053]

CellSpex? Didn't know you were a fan.

[@AlIRounder]

James I cannot stress enough how much I want you to cover the Gingerdead Man series on this channel.

[@filmfangirls9163]

I love the game episodes!! And James hosting this time!! So exciting!!

[@everausten]

Chatting horror movies, stats and putting Chelsea in the hot seat - very fun ✨

[@SpeedwagonZaidan]

Gressle was silent for so long and 37:54 fucking killed him.

[@thehorrorwombat]

I would love to see Chelsea play more games from James in the future!