The Clash of Claims Was UNPRECEDENTED

[@Badissweet]

Hikaru and Hans Niemann are very similarly in the way they talk... Maybe I'm the only one that sees it

[@dwightPhoenix]

Wait. Am I seriously the first one replying to this comment? I guess I'll give my two cents about ur comment then. Ummm they dont sound alike but ill say they sort of stumble along when putting together some sentences. Hikaru stumbles less tho and seems more confident in his speech. I am after all very qualified to speak on this issue as an Electrical Engineer from Jamaica 😊

[@blantant]

Are you trying to insinuate that Hans time travelled and had nasty-in-the-pasty with his mum to bear Kramnik (ie. It's not brain damage but Kramnik is just Hams' SON-- a la the plot in Back to the Future)? I don't think time travel is possible. Then again, these two are so oddly similar, seems plausible 🤷

[@deepmondal8459]

​@@dwightPhoenix Hello Caribbean! ❤ From India! I love Chris Gayle 🏏

[@jj___6980]

yeah you're the only one

[@WhatAmIDoingHereOnYoutube]

pin of shame😭

[@Alekhine01]

Jose was at a disadvantage in negotiations because if he resisted, that would give Kramnik something to latch on to. It was a match of honor. Jose took every disadvantage and prevailed.

[@BofaDeezKnights]

This was a golden opportunity for Kramnik to show some respect and humility, and he completely blew it.

[@danarcher5972]

I like how the commentators from Spain call the chess moves like its a soccer game.

[@mrsnail8664]

Thats how we comment all sports xd

[@jaydenchow6351]

@@mrsnail8664 imagine golf 😂

[@kincho1011]

This is the style of Pepe Cuenca

[@CrisJunkie]

Chess is already a slow and boring game. You need the commentators to be not only knowledgeable but also upbeat and energetic. But for official classical tournaments they have old GMs and sometimes they can lull you to sleep with their soft voices and monotones. The commentators from Spain brought the energy and made the matches more fun to watch. I hope we start getting that kind of energy in broadcast chess tournaments.

[@tobiasjacobsen_dk]

GOL GOL GOL GOL GOL GOOOOOOOOOOOL!

[@jloiterer]

Jose showed so much respect to Kramnik. I'm really impressed. Hopefully he doesn't lose his mind in two decades as Kramnik clearly has.

[@AdrianZakrzewski-t7o]

He has patience of a saint to put up with all this bs.

[@Sympanet]

I’ve been watching the elusive Jospem give Hikaru trouble in blitz for years. It’s cool to learn more about him as a person now. Dude’s been cracked

[@diggersid456]

kramnik is such a diva its very embarrassing to watch

[@AthosRac]

You are not being fair! He was right about the computer problem. Who thought it was a good idea open a brand new MS Windows HP laptop and put it in a competition? Who buys HP in the 21 century? You do not need to be a nerd to know the issue here, it is common sense! Said that, Jose has nothing to do with the problem.

[@socramdavid]

@@AthosRac It was his (Kramnik's) idea, and requirement, that the laptops were new and unopened.

[@fractalinfect3454]

Thinking the same thing: Diva Extraordinaire.

[@marcobarbaro1299]

Why they didn't switch the computers or the network cable?

[@u.v.s.5583]

A lot of what Kramnik has done lastly reveals him as a diva, but not what happens in this video. The man is right.

[@cheetah_100]

JOSE IS A TOTAL GENTLEMAN 25:53 "I want to enjoy Spain and nothing more" -- this says it all

[@itshamdounbitch]

I mean spain is beautiful tbf

[@DavidWKimber]

This entire debacle was about as insulting to Jose as I can imagine one could stand. Kramnik is starting to go the way of Fischer...

[@tcsprynce5748]

Unfortunately Fischer was probably undiagnosed schizo

[@reav3rtm]

It's worse than Fisher

[@IWontBuy-RP]

Fisher at least hated the game, not the player

[@ramunasstulga8264]

Is he antisemitic? 😭

[@30noir]

@@jeffypwnzu You are out of your tiny mind if you believe that. Have you any idea what he claimed in his latter years?

[@JesusSavedtheEntireWorld]

idk what Kramnik’s problem is. Jose clearly proved that he can play at Kramnik’s level, if not better. Kramnik owes Jose an apology.

[@thePot_]

idiot?

[@vitolarussa]

What’s next? Kramnik claims the OTB chess clocks were low on battery and de synced his time gains? Or that the weight of his pieces was .01 grams heavier than Jose’s so he took more time moving them? He’s an absolute baby.

[@aradan3913]

In Spain, many high end chess competitions are done in casinos because they are luxurious places you can rent with enough money, just like hotels. Opens and more modest games are probably done in hotels and public spaces with more room and cheaper expenses. There's no real reason why they do it in a casino instead of a hotel, maybe they like the advertising, got conections, got a more prepared floor or rooms for matches since they also run poker, etc.

[@Samhades]

As a cheater I can confirm he isn't cheating😥

[@nunofigueiroa947]

hahahahahaha

[@blessing6835]

Game knows game

[@73zach]

😆

[@biz6361]

@@blessing6835game is game

[@blantant]

As a washed-up demented old man who likes Aplay, I can confirm the opposite. 🤡

[@sumedhramteke_]

I honestly want Jose to say "Skill Issue" to Kramnik when Jose wins 😂😂

[@nailfelagund7508]

Haha to rub salt on the wound, love it 😂

[@SwiFTDBL]

How hard is it for Kramnik to understand that Jose most likely just performs better at low time format??? Meaning in classical over the board Jose’s opponents have the time to calculate the lines and beat him, but online with low time format Jose thrives at being able to calculate lines fast where the opponent doesn’t have time to out calculate Jose.. some people are better at low time format than others, this is nothing new, just because Jose performs better online doesn’t mean he’s all of a sudden cheating lol

[@archimedesnation]

It's not just the time format. Online protects you from the mind games you may encounter OTB. Also, if your mouse skills are better, you have the advantage. Kramnik was a giant OTB and crushed Garry in his own mind games but his mouse skills are attrocious, his time control sucks and he's just an average GM in low time formats. I 'm really surprised Jose didn't win by six or something. Jose is an amazing online player and, evidently, a great guy.

[@LizZard1988]

Kramnik doesn't understand that not everyone plays online chess with a ball mouse from 1995 like him. Just listen to him play and click, it is no surprise his online performance in speed formats is garbage

[@TheMixxon2]

Kramnik is such a trash... He forgot THE POINT OF THIS MEETING.... if Jose played AT A MERE 2000 level in this event, it would definitely ALREADY mean that he is not cheating, maybe he is just nervous so he's playing worse, HE OUTPLAYED HIM, so of course he is not cheating, he has the capabilities to play so well. I mean if Jose all of a sudden only played like 800, yeah maybe his 3000 online performance would be considered cheating, but since he played not only at a 2000 level, but also at a 3000 level, Kramnik should have apologised for accusing him of cheating, yet he never did and just continued to complain. I will make an official petition to Assassinate vladimir kramnik. Like the comment - how many of you will sign the petition ?

[@kydelvetus642]

Kramnik knew that the less time there is allocated for the game, the better Jose plays compared to him. That's why Kramnik asked to change the time format from 3 plus 1 to 3 plus 2 for the Clash of Claims. The Titled Tuesdays games were 3 plus 1. The 3 plus 2 format doesn't replicate the conditions of Titled Tuesdays and gives Kramnik better chances of winning compared to 3 plus 1

[@attilakiss8585]

I do not know what the result supposed to prove if the players has specifically prepared for the event. But the way they behave tells a lot. Really a lot.

[@user-wu7ug4ly3v]

Kramnik claims that anyone that beats him is cheating. So for kramnik the match was supposed to prove that he’s the best. Kramnik is basically a 3 year-old who doesn’t want to accept that he can lose.

[@theauthenticwaffle651]

I suppose the point was (for Kramnik) if Jose lost significantly enough overall then he could say Jose is cheating. As for Jose he gets to prove on a big stage that he’s legit and also get some money.

[@attilakiss8585]

@@theauthenticwaffle651 So Kramnik's point was refuted boldly. I think a chess player on Kramnik's level can prepare against someone efficiently. Even with preparation he could not show a decisive advantage. One more against his point: their standings was completely different on day 1 and day 2, which also shows that a player can win several matches at one event, and loose several at another one against the same player.

[@theauthenticwaffle651]

@@attilakiss8585 oh for sure. Jose is just really good at blitz particularly compared to his (still impressive) classical skills. I thought he was an odd target for Kramnik tbh but then again like all of this Kramnik drivel is non sense

[@danielanskaitis5961]

It can never fully be proven but the way Jospem was battering Kramnik in time trouble playing 3+2 games, it was very obvious that Kramnik would capitulate in 3+1. The other unspoken aspect is you just know Jospem has a much better, dialled in setup than Kramnik at home. Kramnik seems to like he'd struggle to turn a computer on.

[@MohamedOsama-mz1mg]

Kramnik is a GM in being a karen

[@dafickler]

Kramnik is the Phil Hellmuth of chess.

[@carolatkinson795]

Don't insult Hellmuth.

[@jamesmaskell3743]

I knew of the first match but didn't know the details. As Hikaru says, it's actually a hard watch, seeing Jose conceding more and more to Kramnik to allow the match to continue. It showed so much jn that last day when he's clearly running out of patience with the antics. I get Kramnik had some valid issues with the tech but Jose clearly proved he could compete with him regardless.

[@lightofscorpio9396]

Jose shows so much class by shaking this accusers hand.

[@AnHonestDoubter]

Wasn't Kramnik's point that online and OTB results shouldn't be so wildly different? I thought this was shown during this event, yet "in the wild," people seem to perform much better online than OTB.

[@Sympanet]

The simple fact that you can premove and don’t have to hit a clock makes it almost a completely different game

[@builderphill1361]

Have you played online and OTB? I know myself it feels very different

[@infamoushx9869]

⁠@@builderphill1361it’s definitely very different, I feel I’m like 200-400 elo lower on OTB lol

[@memebarciano]

@@infamoushx9869same 😭😭also being able to click your pieces and see which squares they can move / draw arrows can help a lot

[@zhangyic]

⁠@@SympanetYep and that’s why it’s so different playing otb in a blitz compared to playing otb in a classical. When you play in a classical or even a high rapid, you usually don’t need to worry about the clock a lot

[@Sandfox07]

22:20 Lacking bananas. Lots of Bananas! 22:33 Curry flavored!

[@violetfactorial6806]

He wouldn't play 3+1 because he knows Jose would spank him, it's such a joke.

[@warrioremperor6320]

Kramnik can defeat him while sleeping he’s a world champion unlike the kid who is inferior and too great here

[@lordangellight]

Lol, winning while sleeping? someone watched another video, maybe in a multiverse ​@warrioremperor6320

[@AJD...]

hikaru speeding up that video to 1.25, me speeding hikaru's video 1.25. Next I'm gonna do a reaction video to this video so we can keep the chain going LMAO

[@billyfields7722]

Levy is a great announcer and explains the how and why the players play a certain way.

[@generationxpvp]

The young man clapped up the ornery old man. Pretty simple.

[@cameronjones9335]

😂😂😂

[@АнтонУваров-щ2ь]

Kramnik won the rematch tho, strangely Hikaru only did recap for 1st and 2nd days of it, while Jose was winning, but not for the 3rd where Kramnik came back and won 🤔

[@ThatGuy-nv7cx]

⁠​⁠@@АнтонУваров-щ2ьhe was supposed to lose. Kramnik is undisputedly the better player. The format didn’t benefit Jose at all being a pure speed player. Take Danya for example, who is a top 5 3+0 blitz player, but when that’s changed to 3+1 he falls way behind the pack. Given these favorable time controls that only benefit the older and less tech savvy player, kramnik should be embarrassed that he barely edged out a win when all his controls were followed to ensure there was 0% chance of cheating. Not to mention that Jose was still grieving his mother and probably not in the right headspace for this event.

[@akshaysundru482]

​@@АнтонУваров-щ2ь Strange indeed. Results were also strange in that Kramnik won online but lost OTB. In any case neither Clash truly demonstrated anything Kramnik wanted, he wanted to show that there shouldn't be a difference online vs OTB but then sets up +2 increments which massively deducts from an online advantage and then at the end of the day there's still a discrepancy between online and OTB

[@АнтонУваров-щ2ь]

@@akshaysundru482 in this 2 events i dont think there is any discrepancy between online and OTB, 1st event Jose was a bit better online, 2nd a bit worse and vice versa, maybe like 1-2 games difference overall is my guess, which is nothing. Also it's not like Kramnik pushed for +2sec increment and everyone was against it, no, they all just agreed to it cuz it clearly doesn't make much difference to them both and +1sec OTB is kind of messy, also it kind of compensates Kramnik poor mouse skills compared to other online players, which Jose still farms online. Seems very reasonable to me~

[@zDownpour]

Jose is a class act. So easy to like and root for the guy. Keep on pushing forward man

[@_.alex.-]

Over the board vs online is such a different game for so many people. One is entirely top down, in 3D, one is presented vertically, in 2D. It is different.

[@andrewbloom7694]

Fair point, I actually cant really play OTB chess cause my (actual) vision isn't great, and its really hard for me to have to focus so much on distinguishing the pieces. Especially with black, i have to squint to even see if its a pawn or bishop with most pieces. The more ornate the easier for me to tell, but the simple plastic ones are awful. Its fine in long chess performance wise, its just annoying. But in faster formats i just dont see threats on the edge of the board quick enough to not flag

[@DarthPenguinius]

I'm soooo happy for Jose. I can't even imagine how hard was a pressure.

[@carlosalcibiades2065]

Kramnik going down in the last seconds of the video represents this stage of his career very well.

[@zackf3688]

Tremendous grace on display from José. 🇵🇪 🇵🇪 🇵🇪

[@Kil7witch84]

They have all the infrastructure as well. Security, the whole 9 yards.

[@YehNahYehAyy]

Kramnik is making a fool of himself

[@stephanedegremont4961]

Divis and Pepe Cuenca's comentaries were great.. I spent a lot of time listening to them. I like Levy but he was alone and the pair of them was just too good :)

[@davidmasse2829]

Jose proved he isn’t cheating, and that his success is legitimate. I’m satisfied.

[@redneckrevolt1]

Kramnik: Ugh everyone is cheating against me = Windows Update 😂😂😂😂

[@KOKOPIKOSS]

This event has proven once and for all that what Kramnik really wanted was attention and to be in the center of chess events once again!

[@054_pramitdas4]

6:21 I agree that bro needs Asus ROG with RTX4090 to play chess. The recent update is really GPU intensive 🤡

[@giuseppejoeramundo1452]

Running chess engines for opening prep is really gpu intensive

[@samnorman2307]

tbh I can understand the not facing each other part. Having your opponent sat across the board from you is a psychological aspect that is not present in online chess

[@Yayaisbadatchess]

Kramnik walking away in 1.5 speed is hilarious for some reason

[@arthurjackson32]

When you start up a new out of box Windows computer, the updates can take hours with several restarts. The organizers should have done the updates on camera way before the start of the match.

[@mememe733]

Kramnik demanded a completely new unopened computer.

[@mizhimo]

English = Careful | Spanish = Cuidado | Chess spanish = CuidaDing Liren LOL

[@meatonthetable1602]

at 29:22 Kramnik is just down right emberassing now..His behavior is awful makes you turn your head in shame....

[@zorbajevon]

Your spelling is downright embarrassing

[@e4jasperi]

It needed to be all 3+1 to be able to prove anything meaningful.

[@NbNgMOD]

Kramnik out himself in a catch 22, no matter what happens really Jose comes out on top. The time control being 3+1 doesn't change much.

[@M3A3J3]

The unboxing shows that Kramnik is a master content creator.

[@redneckrevolt1]

Kramnik wants to smash Jose to prove he’s cheating and Jose wants to grow as a chess player. This match is uncalled for and very disrespectful to Jose! Kramnik should never play a game of chess again!!! Pitiful!

[@JaphrielTradeza]

I've seen kids more mature than this former WCC.

[@nicholasintrepidity5073]

hikaru milking jospem after he loses is something we all needed

[@OakMcIlwain]

On first watch I didn't realise that the Spanish guy saying "muy interesante, muy interesante" was trolling Kramnik.

[@redneckrevolt1]

Kramnik doesn’t trust players and now the players are in front of him, he doesn’t trust the program! Who is after Kramnik? 😂😂

[@Cristuuu]

to a certain point those cheat claims actually make the chess scene interesting, creates a certain hype and rivalry

[@alexandrunastasia]

Always a pleasure to see Clownik chess

[@elnetini]

The one thing that I don't like about chess is the big Egos. Kramnik is just one more example of this, but you can add Kasparov, Fischer, Carlsen, Nakamura, lots of BIG a** egos

[@bilalbil1652]

I am no GM but if I am accusing someone of cheating and then I play with him like tens of games I would instantly know that he is not cheating Kramnik should stand up hug the guy ask for forgiveness for his lame accusations

[@ivan_C-137]

hikaru just straight up laughing at them HAHAHHAHA, can't blame him though this is kinda funny to watch😂

[@jakobsternberg1807]

This is really well produced

[@stephenjames2951]

Feels like Jose has nothing to really gain from this. Kramnik isn t going to change his opinion.

[@dominiquemathieu7662]

Everytime Kramnik is loosing it is good quality.

[@samnorman2307]

"I don't trust yahoo chess we're going to play on the in game chess board on DayZ"

[@anthonysellers6455]

7:24 it’s a sport that just so happens to be in a similar genre as casino games

[@seankasu8957]

Kramnik has to be smoking something. Oh... he is

[@ericzenk4404]

they should have used Linux laptops. They should name new bad sportsmanship and invalid statistical inference awards after Kraminik.

[@DivisTv]

Thanks a lot to Hikaru for his comments! It was tense, but I think it was definitely worth experiencing. I hope you all enjoyed it!

[@diegojimenez8946]

Coñe, Divis, ni puñetero caso te hacen por aquí, cuando eres el verdadero cerebro de todo esto.

[@ashtoncoats6139]

Kramnik is such a clown lol

[@egoi6421]

Kramnik is just making a fool of himself. Its sad to see.

[@seper159]

Kramnik is well outside his prime. This result IS sus

[@bw4593]

Just gonna say it, Jose’s performance, behavior, humble attitude, is very attractive 😍

[@Jordannn_nope]

As much as I love seeing kramnik play the villan here, but if this is not scripted, jóse is such a doormat, take away his advantage, nullify his wins, the b.s he's been the through, I would of had already called out kramnik.

[@KNNY61]

Kramnik cannot accept that he is not as good as he thinks he should be.

[@spotlessmind9263]

"everything is clear to me now"

[@nyztan0]

2:45 - Hello mr Rey Enigma

[@radudragos4252]

As a chess fan, I am surprised that Kramnik is still a strong player. As a human being, you can not cheer for this guy. You just simply can not. Jospem won my heart.

[@potchiwantu7533]

The Anti- Comsat set up on chess is funny haha

[@zenka_i]

I skipped my class to watch Hikaru react to this Worth every min

[@kall745]

kramnik should only OTB and stop with computers, ez polemic fix

[@thegreenpaladin]

new world rankings: magnoose guccireza praggmatic

[@OvercookedOctopusFeet]

How does Kramnik see the board through all those cry baby tears? 👶🍼🚼

[@vibhorpathak6342]

27:45 kramnik rage quit😂

[@hazeinthehill]

weird how it isn't made a big deal on how jose won at the end, no mention, no editing, no vfx... interesting

[@redneckrevolt1]

Kramnik has to be the largest 6’5” beta in the world 😂

[@HyenaEmpyema]

I really hope someone invites a trained statistician to analyze the situation to calculate the actual statistical significance of online-vs-in-person, and also elaborate on the phrase "correlation does not equal causation", i.e. the average win rate could be lower due to other reasons besides cheating.

[@egoi6421]

Its a lot more different for Jose. He is not used to so much fuzz with media and attention.

[@brandonsmith2888]

Jospem got them Korchnoi glasses on

[@PeteQuad]

Kramnik was never going to allow Jose to win without claiming some garbage. His ego would not allow it. He is vile to me.

[@Swanke]

kramnik is the definition of cope for a definitive skill issue. what a bad face for chess.

[@warrioremperor6320]

He won this idiot he’s not skill issued person but Jose Kramnik is world champion which Hikaru dreams of

[@glxcksmith]

“I would not even shake his hand” 😂😂😂 and Kramnik SACRIFICES his hand

[@codebreaker2495]

Why hikaru seems upset about kramnik?

[@Weqqqk]

@@codebreaker2495you guys stupid or what ?!!!

[@InitiallyJayKay]

​@@codebreaker2495 bc kramnik has accused him of being one of these online "cheaters" multiple times

[@krishalkharbuja]

Hey Kramnik, Chess speaks for itself

[@АнтонУваров-щ2ь]

Kramnik won the rematch, you know that, right? :)

[@MisterPaladin]

30:56 Love the spoiler that Kramnik is still losing, today. How many times do I have to teach you old man?

[@АнтонУваров-щ2ь]

in the end old man won :), but sadly Hikaru only posted recap of 1st and 2nd days of the rematch, where Jose was winning, but not the final day where Kramnik came back and won 💀

[@nailfelagund7508]

​@@АнтонУваров-щ2ьstill doesn't prove Jose cheated lol

[@АнтонУваров-щ2ь]

@@nailfelagund7508 i never said that D:, just told final results to OP since Hikaru not posting recap of the final day.. apparently on this channel viewers must only know about things that favor mr Hikaru and not about actual facts or even tournament results :c

[@lostblue5651]

Jose lost his mother one day before the match. Thats bizarre they didnt cancel it.

[@jmbbao]

I use Linux Kubuntu, Windows is a complete shit

[@schmuglyt4618]

Clash of clans!!

[@Alan-qv7fv]

Clash Royale

[@redneckrevolt1]

The fact that the score isn’t 0 to 36 shows how Jose isn’t cheating! Wtf is going on here???

[@viviane9891]

Hikaru: doesn’t make video about Kramnik winning Clash of Blames 19-17, even though he covered the first two parts, instead makes video about Clash of Claims a couple months ago Kramnik: interesting

[@AUTOLOVEReddan3]

GM levy rozman i believe in you 😎

[@Octavian82]

To sum it up: Kramnik is just a bad loser and never admitting any faults

[@josephadeiye4437]

"He pins him. He's completely pinned, on the cross. Goodbye!" I enjoyed the commentary alright.😂😂

[@wingwang007]

No lag, no bag baby!

[@vlaer81]

I am waiting for part 2 of "WTF do you think you are" in September :)

[@CesarGomez-kp5lm]

Jose is from Peru not Spain

[@redneckrevolt1]

How is this not Disrespectful to Jose? This is mad disrespect!! Sheesh