The Classic Sonic Masterpiece | Sonic the Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles Retrospective

[@xxmurderer7xx287]

I also like how beating doomsday zone and Super Sonic, the cutscene shows him losing his power halfway through the fall back to Mobius. But as Hyper Sonic, he lasts for the whole fall and only turns off his power when he meets up with tails

[@LITTLE1994]

*Angel Island

[@2DCheese]

Super is CHAOS (meaning it's hard to control) and Hyper is SUPER (meaning it's easier to control the power)

[@miwiki6]

@@2DCheese that actually makes sense, i'll make that my headcannon.

[@jarlwhiterun7478]

Mobius? Dafuq

[@Restart_Animator]

@@jarlwhiterun7478Sonic’s home planet

[@zach.0]

I will never not be very sad that this was never made in 3D for the 3DS like the first two were.

[@Wayneisboss]

It's a real shame, I would have loved to see Angel Island in 3D!

[@boop53]

@@Wayneisboss i think launch base would have looked really cool in 3D too!

[@turtleanton6539]

Yes

[@gabrieldevoogel6225]

@@Wayneisboss imagine when it gets scorched, ooh that’d be cool

[@hypersonic8917]

My favorite game of all time. I routinely beat these games while breaking the lives counter and getting all Emeralds by the second zone. I have been playing them basically my entire life. I know them so well, I can tell the slightest difference between ports (Sonic Jam, Gems Collection, DS Collection, etc). It’s been a joy sharing these games with own kids now. Great video and it’s awesome seeing someone else have a similar passion for the games.

[@Nobunaga1983]

I played sonic 3 and knuckles as a kid here and there. But recently I did the whole experience, beating sonic 3 and knuckle from the beginning and getting all chaos emeralds. This game is Probably my top favorite moments in gaming

[@MegamanNG]

37:13 - Regarding Tails getting Super Tails, the explanation is that due to his youth, he is unable to tap into the full power of the Chaos Emeralds and requires the Super Emeralds so that he can be able to have a Super form to begin with.

[@jateyboi1108]

Had to work more hard to then he became *TAILS THE DESTROYER OF WORLDS* I mean have u seen those birds nobody stands a chance tails is the 3 in sonic 3 and knuckles

[@SdudyoyO]

As a fan of the Sonic series my entire life, I grew up with this game. I have beaten it hundreds of times, playing just about every port. I have listened to hours of video essays, examined the story to the last detail, and have known this is my favorite Sonic game, and second favorite game of all time. And yet, just in the first thirteen minutes of this video, you've already put into words how I've felt about this game for years, but have never been able to put into words. I have always _loved_ the first stage, the opening acts, the cut-scenes and buildup to the first Eggman encounter, but you've made me realize why. Anyway, time to finish this video!

[@KillyRR]

Now after reading your comment im curious what your favorite game is.

[@SdudyoyO]

@@KillyRR My favorite is Majora's Mask! When putting it in a list, I usually allow myself one game per franchise, because the entire Zelda franchise would eat up my first place spot onwards. Then the Sonic series would eat up the rest for awhile.

[@KillyRR]

@@SdudyoyO Nice. Its not my favorite Zelda because im not good with timelimits but great choice. My favorite is Wind Waker.

[@SdudyoyO]

@@KillyRR Also a good choice! Wind Waker is such a great game, I haven't played it in awhile, but I've been excited to play through the HD version for the first time!

[@KillyRR]

@@SdudyoyO The HD version is great. I have the og on GC and HD on WiiU. I know most people hate the WiiU but its great for the Virtual Console alone^^ My favorite game of all time will always be S3&K though. Cant wait to finally play it in widescreen 60fps on the Origins Collection.

[@georgeshaw4017]

I feel that to keep Sonic 3 AIR alive, someone will have the downloadable ROM, but first someone has to get Sonic Origins first. Then you are allowed to download the ROM and get Sonic 3 AIR.

[@TheRealDustinNunn]

Sonic 3 A.I.R. wasn't the first Sonic 3 ROM hack. Sonic 3 Complete was the very first Sonic 3 ROM hack.

[@Gilbot9000]

YO I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE KNUCKLES ANIMATION IN SKY SANCTUARY. WAYNE, YOU TAUGHT ME SOMETHING ABOUT A GAME I'VE PLAYED FOR DECADES. Wayne, man, thank you for this. This was worth every second. Man you captured everything I loved and enjoyed about this. Everything that I appreciated about it as a kid is here, eloquently captured by your words. I really can't say how much I appreciate it.

[@Wayneisboss]

Does my heart good to see such positive feedback! I think Nick's video I'd where I first saw that animation, took me a little effort to figure out how to trigger it lol

[@djroscurro9859]

I found this out through youtube too, it was insane when I went back to play it a while ago

[@hereelabs]

epic cybershell moment

[@craigmurphy5871]

The way you describe the final boss. I felt like I was there. Brilliant review.

[@Wayneisboss]

Thank you! It's one of my favorite final bosses, I really wanted to do it justice!

[@typreegamingtpg2198]

In the Sonic Jam manual, they call the Insta-Shield the “Double Spin Attack” and they describe it as a vortex of wind that Sonic creates around himself, like that of a sonic boom created by supersonic aircraft.

[@SSL_2004]

31:44 This Boss Fight isn't the best but it is worth noting that there is an alternate method of hitting him. By Spin Dashing into the upturned spike robots they'll fly up, able to hit the boss.

[@Wayneisboss]

I'm gonna give that a shot on my next playthrough! Which will probably be when Origins drops lol

[@KillyRR]

I think alot of people dont know this even people who play this game for decades^^ Thats why most think this boss is tedious.

[@tiagomoreira8905]

Yeah, this actually makes this boss way more fun, and you can beat it quite fast if you know what you are doing!

[@JamesR624]

Wait WHAT??

[@Mr_Gixxer]

Was just about to say this, makes it go much faster

[@joshstarr6400]

Another review of my favourite game of all time. I have so many memories with this game. And I'll never forget the first time I entered Doomsday Zone. I had NO idea that was gonna happen and I'd already put my controller down. My heart was racing. I'd never experienced something so climatic in a game before. It was so magical. This review was great. I'll never get tired of hearing someone gush over this game.

[@TheRetroCount]

Holy crap I really felt the passion and love in this one. This is probably my favorite video from you so far man! Fantastic work!!!!!

[@ProjectStarLIGHTS]

I got Sonic and Knuckles brand new in 1994. 28 years later I never knew about the Knuckles animation on Sky Sanctuary, thank you.

[@Vmeg17]

This is a amazing video man, this video was a great watch, and the overall video was really enjoyable. Amazing job.

[@Wayneisboss]

Thanks so much! This was a huge project to work on, I'm really glad people are enjoying it!

[@Vmeg17]

@@Wayneisboss hell yeah man! Keep up the great work

[@Reformatt]

One of the best Sonic 3 & Knuckles retrospectives I have seen. 100% nostalgia. Good work sir!

[@gregtom3272]

tha was nothing short of a well made video that speaks volumes about how fantastic this game thank you for that

[@7grandmac]

Today’s my birthday, thanks for the present!

[@Wayneisboss]

Really glad I was able to deliver and Happy Birthday!

[@TheBenLambert]

That barrel in Carnival Night made me cry as a kid... could never work it out. I thought you had to time your jumps....

[@Wayneisboss]

I think I just kind of lucked out on that one lol Something about the barrel just kind of clicked with me first time around but there's way too many reports of people not knowing what to do with it for it to be an actually well-designed obstacle

[@TheBenLambert]

@@Wayneisboss all the things robotnik tried and this worked the best!

[@davidbeer5015]

This was fun to listen to. I never got to play or own this game, which is one reason why I am looking forward to Origins and try this on.

[@Wayneisboss]

Really glad you enjoyed the video! And I'm hoping Origins will be a great way for tons of new players to experience the game!

[@Bald_Thoughts]

I got this game on the day it was released. And nothing has come close to capturing the magic that this game gave me when I was 10. Absolute beast of a game. When developers actually cared about their content and how it would be received. 90's gaming was the best time to be a gamer.

[@jaycenteno8385]

All these years later and its still my favorite in the series. Words cant express how much I love this game. Great review as always! :D

[@matcarfer]

Fantastic video, and great timing! I was looking forward to play Sonic 3 AIR just when the new Sonic games was announced. In only missed the coverage of Sonic 3 Complete hacked/modded ROM, but I enjoyed a lot!

[@joshyywoshy]

The GOAT of 2D platformers. great video dude

[@AkaObbies]

THANK YOU. This is my favorite platformer and 2d sonic game I have ever played and more people really need to know about it. It really is a masterpiece and it had me playing for hours to unlock doomsday zone and today it is still fun to replay

[@octooo.]

Just found this channel, it's excellent! Can't wait to see more content from you :)))

[@Wayneisboss]

Thanks so much! I'll have to get settled in the new place before I can dedicate a ton of time to a new video, but I'll be back on the grind soon!

[@MrNanukes]

I wasn’t around in 1994 when this game came out but I went back into Sonic’s past from the Genesis and it just solidifies why I love this franchise.

[@AkiDave]

I love this video and it was fun watching it with everyone 💙

[@retropulse03]

My favorite game of all time, and not only did you do it justice... you showed me something new (pushing spikes) that despite playing this no less than 100 times over... I've never seen. Seriously. Good. Fucking. Job.

[@TheBlueGhoul]

Watching right before i go do my exam. So sad that i coudnt be there for the premiere but at least im getting to watch it now. Keep up the amazing content. Also its hydo-city no contest.

[@austincruz41]

I’m genuinely surprised after watching this beautifully sequenced video and looking to click subscribe, that you have only this many subscribers!!! If you keep this up I’m sure you’ll have way more soon!

[@gneu1527]

I swear I replayed Sonic 3 A.I.R multiple times and never got bored of it. I beaten it with every character on Super & Hyper endings. This is definetely a masterpiece & Knuckles. For all other Sonic games, I instantly delete them after 5 seconds. Sonic 3 is the best thing SEGA ever though about and will never get old. None Sonic game can beat this masterpiece & Knuckles.

[@certifiednobody]

It still blows my mind that you aren't way bigger, but hey, you're making a ton of progress!

[@Wayneisboss]

Always just doing my best!

[@cristianotesta3027]

31:44 You can actually spindash on a reversed trap and hit the boss with it, making the fight much faster Edit: Wrong time-stamp

[@blackdot105]

Sonic 3 and Knuckles is the first thing that comes to mind, as to why emulation is so important.

[@tylersalter9133]

I was 3 when I first played Sonic 1 back in 2000, and I grew up playing them on my family's Genesis with my brother and even my mom. When Mania came out in 2017, my mom played it with me just like the good old days. Now, at 25 years old I'm playing them with my wife. Crazy how some things are so good they stick with you throughout your life. Sonic 3 & Knuckles on an Analogue Mega SG is one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had.

[@jordantsmith]

This is a great video! I played the game so much when i was 10 years old and still go back and play it every now and then. Hearing the way you talk about the game does justice to the love a lot of us have for it. BTW something i love about your video is your built in breaks for ads. Nothing takes you out of a video like an ad crashing through the middle of a sentence!

[@DJIVision]

Great video mate

[@Wayneisboss]

Many thanks, friend! God help me when I try to tackle Sonic Adventure

[@aidanthefitz]

This video was beautiful! It warmed my heart seeing your love and passion for this masterpiece! I can't wait for your deep dive into Sonic Adventure.

[@GameApologist]

Wtf is a Sonic

[@Wayneisboss]

I think it's a rash, pretty sure there's a cream for that though

[@tyler-w7w]

How does this only have one reply

[@mickhithemouse]

i have no idea

[@ultimate_pleb]

I think it's a shower gel but i could be wrong...

[@hamzamohamed6774]

@GameApologist know body nose come on bro we all know your channel

[@WebstersYouTube]

This was such a wholesome gushing celebration of a fantastic game. Very nicely done! :)

[@SlyestFoxOwO]

The algorithm blessed me with this video. Love your commentary and your humor. I can't wait to see more videos like this 😄

[@djroscurro9859]

20:45 And also regarding this fight, Knuckles doesn’t lose, the fight gets interrupted

[@inDN]

As someone who grew up with this game, I appreciate the time and passion that you've poured into this video. You've done it incredible justice, and even taught me stuff along the way (the moveable spikes in Flying Battery Zone - what!??). Anyway, thank you for this gem. Subscribed.

[@soya_kitchens]

I just found you through this video, and it's great! I'll definitely stick around! I wish more games were like Sonic 3 & Knuckles, both in structure and story.

[@noctarin1516]

Am I the only one who got confused by the airships and thought you had to actively avoid the missiles, even though you could just keep on running, and they would not hit you?

[@HyperManSP]

You said one thing in particular that stood out to me: that the super emeralds bring order to the chaos. I have had a theory for a while that the super emeralds are the chaos emeralds + background energy from the phantom ruby. The ruby represents order in the beginning of Sonic Mania it is revealed that the ruby transforms a bunch of egg robos into "the Hard-boiled Heavies" which each have their own will. The ruby granted them dominion over themselves, it gave them control, and turned them into leaders, not eggman's mere pawns. Similarly, hyper sonic has more control over the chaos. Hyper sonic (the super emeralds) is the combination of chaos and order, the emeralds and the ruby. Power from the ruby allowed the chaos emeralds to become more like the master emerald that they were created in the image of. It's called the "master" emerald because it "controls" the other emeralds. So, the master emerald I believe already had this "order" quality. I think this is why mecha sonic could use it to gain a "super" form. A similar power to what was able to transform the egg robos (also robots) it the powerful hard-boiled heavies (also super-powered versions). It was also buried on angel island, meaning it had access to mutate the emeralds (into the super emeralds) while they were on the island. Also, the giant rings for getting the Super Emeralds don't bring you to a special stage, but rather they teleport you to Hidden Palace (similar to how cyber-space (from Sonic Frontiers) and the Phantom Ruby are used for teleportation).

[@zerumsiru5204]

First video I've seen of yours and I already love what I'm seeing. Just the detail you put into it.

[@emilkata]

For those that don't know or are confused of the timeline. The Knuckles story begins a bit after Sonic and Tails return the Master Emerald. The robots were trying to undo what Robotnik couldn't and plotted to harness the ME's power. Mecha Sonic (being their leader) who was easily defeated by Sonic but not destroyed in Sky Santuary tries to make up for it. That's why there is no Death Egg anymore in Lava Reef, no Death Egg zone for Knuckles, no sight of Sonic and Tails or traps for them. No Eggman either (minus that weird sprite error). When I was younger, I thought that his gameplay story runs parallel with Sonic's. But no.

[@glennwelsh9784]

Yes, I was tripped up by that Carnival Nights Zone Act 3 barrel. It baffled me for FIFTEEN YEARS. It wasn't until I watched a KZbin video in my mid-20's that I learned that all you had to do was stand on the barrel and press Up and Down. Before that, the only way I managed to pass that barrel was by using the Super Sonic transformation to glitch between the barrel and the wall so I can drop through (it didn't always work, as I glitched myself into the wall and got stuck once or twice.) But having finally learned the truth, I felt so dumb because it seemed like such an obvious solution just staring me in the face for all those years.

[@nuggetpotato5471]

You don't need tails or knuckles for the big ring at 36:59. It's pretty easy to get it as sonic

[@AugiBear]

easily one of my favorite reviews of sonic 3 and knuckles. subscribed. :)

[@thebreadmaster7095]

Fun fact if you spin dash into the little robots you can flip them and spin in to the gravity changes so you can speed run that place

[@CringeHere03]

I doubt you're gonna see this, but I loved this review sonic 3 and knuckles is the game I played the most and I'm very happy that you made this fantastic review of this game. I hope that you have a great time moving to your new place and that you make more great vids just like this.

[@Wayneisboss]

I see every comment like this and each one means more to me than you realize. That's the kind of uplifting that keeps these videos coming :) Thank you

[@CringeHere03]

@@Wayneisboss You are very welcome

[@DeanGetYourWings]

It hurt my childhood so much to have Sonic and Knuckles, never owned Sonic 3 and my Sonic 1 and Sonic 2 were on a collection cartridge with MeanBean Machine, so it wasn't compatible with the top loader cart. I remember trying it still for years to see if something had magically changed. It did not.

[@gregtom3272]

also , if you ever arrived at doing videos regarding sonic adventure games , did you know that shadow from sonic adventure 2 and later games might be a re made of the shadow that existed 50 years ago , and that shadow killed black doom because he hated his past and wanted to do nothing with it , and he continue to help saving earth not to fulfill maria's wish but because he chose what he want to do

[@Andreopimentel]

You said this is one of the best sonic games. What sonic game would you classify as The Best?

[@TheAltruisticAutistic]

A correction: big arm shows up in S3&K, but for some reason only as knuckles. Also, you were doing the Death Egg boss wrong, which is why you found it tedious. When at the top, you can spin dash them to flip them into the boss.

[@stardmg]

The Super-form cancel feature also allows you to be able to use Sonic's Insta-Shield without transforming, since you have to press a different button than the one you used to jump. It also allows you to transform with an elemental shield without having to intentionally lose it first.

[@jaredpatterson1701]

Yep 3 & knuckles was peak SA2 was the peak of 3d

[@fictionalmediabully9830]

👍

[@JoseGregorioValeroVillarroel]

I wouldn't say SA2 was the peak of 3D if I was you. Remember, it also has control problems which is what brings down the duology for me. Playing with this logic, I meant that SA2 Also has problems which holds it back from being the peak of 3D, mod it, and it will be.

[@austinkaos3682]

Loved the video!!! Btw, you can actually blast yourself in all directions when in your Hyper form. Idk if you knew this or if you forgot and thought it was only forward. Either way, I enjoyed hearing your thoughts on this game outside of Sunset City! You're pretty wizard Wallace ◉ω◉

[@f0x1anc36]

So back in the early 90s when I was playing this game. This is on sky sanctuary, I have this vivid memory of seeing knuckles actually run off after opening the bridge for you. I started to run off to go through the stage but I wanted to see knuckles again so I back tracked and when I got there he was halfway across the bridge sprinting across is then jumps off the map. I know when you go back normally he’s disappeared and I would think people assume he just respawns but please tell me someone else has seen this. Also during the final boss fight when he’s trying to smash you with the 6 fingers you can just spin dash in place and defeat that phase

[@boatin1130]

Another steller video, we will get you to stardom one day Wayne.

[@stardmg]

There's also the fact that Knuckles' campaign clearly takes place *after* Sonic defeats Eggman and stops the Death Egg. Various clues are present to back this up, like the ghost capsule already being broken when Knuckles comes across it in Sandopolis, as well as the Death Egg not being present in the background of Hidden Palace.

[@Acrosurge]

A great overview for one of my favorite video games of all time. I don't know if you play fan games, but Noah Copeland's Sonic Triple Trouble 16-bit is a wonderful sequel to S3K that helps capture the feeling of this era of the franchise. Everyone should check it out.

[@JohnTK]

I own so many copies of Sonic 3 and Knuckles. But ever since Sonic 3 AIR came out, I haven’t played the game any other way. It really is the definitive Sonic 3 experience.

[@jcook7408]

I lost my old Xbox account, but I had sonic 3 from the Xbox arcade. One of the few games I got every achievement for

[@sandy1636]

This made me a fan and made me Sub. keep up the great work

[@kbennett2587]

Worth the wait thanks man!

[@georgeshaw4017]

The Insta Sheild also reflects projectiles.

[@ChristySue1972]

Great job ❤️

[@wlb2j]

40:23 it's a year later and you're at 21.2K subscribers! Congrats brother!

[@mattyboy2024]

One of the best games ever, steeped in content

[@BomberBlair]

I’m so happy this was recommended to me

[@MCDreng]

"use the elemental shields to your benefit" Dribbling Water Shield Sonic like a basketball. He's talking about dribbling Water Shield Sonic like a basketball.

[@realpolygon]

Everyone being sad that they can’t play sonic 3: Me chilling with all the classic sonic games on my 2DS: 0-0

[@halfdraggy]

one of the top 5 sonic games for me hoping that orgins delivers as a great remaster

[@randonBtuna]

I just found your channel and I'm genuinely super into your commentary and editing. Keep it dude

[@LITTLE1994]

The best 2D Sonic game alongside CD. Glad somebody knows the full game, not them as separate.

[@juanguillermosaldano2386]

Everyone in the fandom ranks this game as one, not as two

[@NKNX8413]

20:54 it rhymes. So so Ancient Story Telling.😳 Soo cool.

[@charleschamp9826]

Bethesda re-releases of Doom 1 and 2 on consoles like the PS4 and Xbox One let you download and play with mods that were originally intended for PC. Granted I think they have to go through a little conversion and approval process first before they're made available to console players. But I don't see any reason why Sega could not do something similar with their re-releases of Genesis/Mega Drive games, Sonic or otherwise.

[@Wayneisboss]

I'm certainly hoping they make the Roms available! If they do so I'll be sure to address it when I cover Origins!

[@BlueWingedPanther12]

Great video the first I've watched of yours

[@foxdavani4091]

The only game that I know of that has a boss that just keeps going in the newer and more powerful form is Ori and the will of the wisps. Where the final boss just keeps getting stronger and stronger and stronger until you are literally fighting in the air just like in this sonic game. But that is because in Ori and the will of the wisps, the final boss destroys the level around you, so you’re forced to fight in the air while trying to hold yourself up and fighting the boss at the same time which clearly came from this game. Sonic influenced a game that came out more than 20 years after it. That’s awesome .

[@machadragonii145]

It's okay great video Good luck with the move and he's to sega hopefully will reconsider giving sonic origins a physical release see you next mission

[@KJrLawland]

I'm enjoying all the love I'm seeing for Sonic 3&K. For me it is a timeless classic I've played through dozens of times per year. I even still own the cartridges and play them on my Nomad from time to time. You're the first person I've ever heard say Sonic CD as their favorite game...not that i think the game was bad. its awesomely memorable. Just found the level design a bit fractured. But the time travel mechanic was one of the most interesting parts of the game for me.

[@mikeygamingdev8538]

Your videos are great Subscribed!

[@That_Ifrit_Guy]

Hey just so you know, the Act 2 boss in Death Egg Zone you can spindash the little robot dudes when they are spiked into the ceiling which flips them round, allowing you to get another try to hurt the boss and hopefully speed up that fight~ I don't see many people talk about this and I kinda found out by mistake~

[@chipchap2]

Needless to say, this video was awesome.

[@jarlwhiterun7478]

I like this (these) game(s) so much, it's hard to even understand people who like any other game in the series more, including Mania

[@potofsteak4877]

so excited!!!

[@chipchap3703]

Yes yes yes it’s finally here

[@bagelgod946]

Performing for you

[@guyonyoutube3850]

if you know the words

[@KalokesMysteries]

You can join in, too

[@chrislee-marshall3367]

The Xbox 360 Arcade does have Sonic 3 & Knuckles. You have to get Sonic & Knuckles and it will allow you to play any lock-on combo as well as Sonic & Knuckles by itself.

[@robertdowney85]

Channel Pup sent me.

[@analog_ape]

Looks like you've been north of that 10k barrier for a while!

[@martinauld670]

Why do you only have 7.25k subscribers lol? Great video

[@damin9913]

The greatest sonic game ever!

[@comedyyyyyyyyyyyy]

ngl i kinda imagine sonic as a melee, tails as a summoner, and knuckles as a tank.

[@pheilimobrien6634]

I have some news on the XBLA version of the games. They were very recently delisted from the Live Arcade actually, and they would be quite rare now I'd assume considering you could only buy them on a 360. Anyways really good video!

[@AlexanderGreensmith]

gotta go sleep but hope premiere goes well bro

[@DynoSkrimisher]

I'm glad I have the Sega collection on the PS3.