THE CLOSEST THING TO REALITY? How accurate is the AMG GT4 in iRacing?

[@adventuresofjandk]

Please don’t ever let trolls stop you from making this content. Absolutely awesome to have a real driver provide thoughts. You have a new fan in me.

[@sincity_steve]

Morad go vroom! Would really love to see this exact same comparison in ACC for the same car, just to give another perspective from your professional point of view.

[@deanwannell6613]

From what I've seen on his twitch streams he doesn't rate the braking in ACC

[@danielmorad]

Braking in ACC isnt quite right. I do need to make a video about it.

[@michaelsims77]

Wait until after the ACC 1.5 update later this month! Big changes to physics and potentially braking etc.

[@ryomaprime3130]

@@michaelsims77still bit off from RL

[@Hardcaslte]

​@@michaelsims771.5? 1.9 has been out for a while now.

[@noduj]

Morad go vroom!!! Insane how close it looks, hope we're getting more comparisons on different tracks in the future!

[@danielmorad]

Oh we absolutely will

[@mythionracing]

Morad go vroom! Me and the lady have been binge watching the channel and watched the onboards too! She loves watching GT3/GT4 races, that's how we got here :) She's not a sim racer herself, but she's been incredibly supportive of this hobby. Thank you for all the help you've given through the videos, I'm absolutely in love with this stuff!

[@dabz3432]

Love the comparison and matching the POV/FOV is a real nice touch. Now I'm curious what you think of the physics in other sims? Morad Go Vroom!

[@danielmorad]

Thanks a lot. Attention to details haha. I need to find some time this off season to run through them all

[@killorfill6953]

Really appreciate the consistency of messaging here. Hope iRacing engineers/coders can use these series of videos as motivation to keep working on the next generation tyre model physics, to achieve the best simulations possible in a sim title available to everyone. M.G.V. :)

[@danielmorad]

There’s definitely some improvement to be made here, but it’s a step in the right direction with this car. It feels really good.

[@mike_budny]

I appreciate your content so much man…the behind the scenes footage, the confirmation that for those that for those of us that aren’t as talented as you we can experience portions of this through iracing, and the tips and tricks to good racing…love this channel…Morad go VROOM and maybe one day someone will humor me with a “Budny go REQUIRED REPAIRS” lol

[@danielmorad]

You never know. Maybe one day that will happen.

[@nicholasmarshall3191]

I love this! Also, iRacing is likely to just get better over time.

[@danielmorad]

Absolutely. It’s going to get better and better with Feedback.

[@braun987]

This is one of your best vids yet. Well done and keep ‘em coming.

[@danielmorad]

Thanks, will do!

[@Forie]

I truly appreciate your videos mate! I find your comparison between the two cars so interesting because you actually race that car, this is something that is so rare in the iracing community having these sort of feedback videos. Legend 😀🤙

[@brianxguevara]

Morad go vroom! Nice comparison between your real life racing experiences with the iRacing GT4. Keep up the great work!

[@danielmorad]

Thanks a lot. Will do

[@sulleysaad3266]

Morad go Vroom! now we would really appreciate similar videos covering other sims especially RF2🙏

[@michaelpGT3]

Morad go vroom! Great video. Incredible how close iRacing is. Thanks for sharing!

[@danielmorad]

My pleasure

[@geriatricginger]

These are awesome videos. So unlike the normal iRacing videos you see on YT.. Morad go vrooom

[@danielmorad]

Thanks Ginger! You da man!

[@rowdywallbanger4080]

Morad Go Vroom indeed. I have recently terrified myself driving GT3’s around VIR on iRacing. I managed a 1:48 and just thought surely these cars can’t go this fast, this is bonkers. I Googled the GT3 series and there’s Daniel going Vroom doing 1:44’s. Kudos Daniel, much respect.

[@szymczak34]

I was honestly really surprised to see the laptime was so close! Nice videos, Daniel.

[@danielmorad]

Thanks a lot. It’s fun to share this info.

[@danielmorad]

What do you think about it? I’m sure you have some thoughts. We’ll have to catch up at the next race about it 😂

[@szymczak34]

@@danielmorad The real car looks more on the edge!

[@beeezy]

I live in the southeast Texas area and was working right by the Winward Shop in pasadena. Seeing the cars in the garage when I drove by every day was the coolest thing ever. Now you're racing for them and it's even cooler. The fact I probably saw your car in there is awesome.

[@jvdm76]

Morad go vroom! Great video as always Daniel.

[@danielmorad]

Thank you

[@ImmortanG]

Awesome video. Seeing just how close the onboards were was quite impressive.

[@danielmorad]

Thanks a lot!

[@ShredlordGT]

WHAT!!!! Absolutely remarkable job iracing has done for quite literally simulating the race driver’s experience, look at how precisely your throttle off to braking spots are as well as trail braking into the exits ! They LOOK IDENTICAL!!!!!!

[@KevinHowell-f2d]

Morad Go Vroom! And congratulations on Detroit! It was fun watching you go thru the field.

[@danielmorad]

Thanks a lot

[@86vetteracer]

Morad go vroom! Saw your impressive win in Detroit first hand. Great content! I’ve definitely worked harder on braking since discovering the channel.

[@danielmorad]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@EnLVizions]

Morad go vroom! Great job with this comparison video. iRacing truly is the closest thing we have to real life racing. Thanks!

[@danielmorad]

Couldn't agree more!

[@podium1racing]

Bro, this is amazing. Perfect for customers who ask how similar. As you know, we track so often and we feel the same from the different circuits. Its so close and such a great tool. So many will give their two cents but the reality is most havent been able to do both. iRacing and Sim racing in general is amazing and so close to the real thing. When you apply yourself it will literally make you a better driver! Great Video. Morad go VROOOOM!!!!

[@danielmorad]

Most definitely!

[@DionHF]

I think if you up'd the gamma on iRacing, increased the bass with an EQ, increased engine sounds, increased crash sounds (curb strikes) and decreased tire sounds it would appear even more like irl

[@danielmorad]

Totally agree with you!

[@JonesyTerp1]

Don’t turn the tire sounds down, in fact turn them up and the engine sounds a bit down. In IRacing they, absent of gravitational forces, provide another source of sensory information.

[@Luca_Amaral]

@@JonesyTerp1 I think he knows, he was just saying that it would make the videos even more similar

[@jogb9515]

Great review, thanks. I always think the iRacing tires feel chalky, whereas in rF2 they feel like rubber. Morad go vroom!

[@PossessedGR]

These videos and your feedback is invaluable. Having direct feedback from a real professional GT driver surpasses any other feedback from "pro sim racers". I hope that iracing hires you as a tester and consultant. And to all the trolls that don't appreciate honest videos, Morad go Vroom!

[@efilistun]

Thank you. For a motor and simracing enthusiast your experience is GOLD. I find it interesting as hell that you share your experiences with us. I run to buy the amg gt4 on Iracing. And, of course, go vroom.

[@danielmorad]

Wow, thank you! That’s awesome to hear. Enjoy it.

[@TheStrgn8r]

Morad go vroom! Nice vid Daniel!

[@danielmorad]

Thanks!

[@MilosPure0o]

Morad go vroom! Thank you for the quality content.

[@danielmorad]

My pleasure.

[@markopoolo]

Great comparison video Dan. Love to watch content from a real life driver like yourself. We can only dream of doing what you do but sharing your thoughts is a great way of making the dream better 😊

[@danielmorad]

It’s my absolute pleasure. Thanks.

[@Badbeat]

Reminds me of when Dale Earnhardt Junior mentioned how the sim helped him with Watkins, first time he went there (long time ago..). Funny you got to do this comparison on the same track.

[@danielmorad]

It's a great track haha.

[@vercauteren81]

I'm happy i discovered your YT channel. You put out great content. Keep up the great work!

[@danielmorad]

Welcome aboard!

[@jeremyvanderstaaij7916]

Morad go vroom! 😅 Enjoy your content, really helpful! keep it up!

[@UTubeSL]

Morad go vroom! 🙂 thanks so much for this video, I don't know of anyone that's done such an outstanding like-for-like comparison - absolute gold dust for sim racers! Top man. Cheers.

[@danielmorad]

My pleasure. It’s a really nice comparison and it’s a cool chance for you to see how close they actually are. Enjoy playing.

[@adammcleod5026]

I really appreciate your perspective and the videos you make that are revealing the accuracy of the sim or how to configure your equipment to match your real life experience. As far as I know you are the only one doing that and one of the only drivers that publicly reveals that you use iRacing for real world prep. Thankyou for these videos and your insight. I'm not saying the thing though I did watch the whole video :D

[@DerekLanham]

Morad go vroom. Great video, Kalepa ta kala. Ignore the doubters. You clearly have lots of fans that know you are the real deal!

[@danielmorad]

I appreciate that

[@p1zzalemon190]

Morad go vroom! Thank you for this content. It is so cool to see how close the sim really is! I would love to see more guides, reviews and onboard footage. These videos are some of the best in sim racing, keep it up!

[@mrdoed]

Morad go vroom! I just really like your videos and you describing all the stuff, you are very easy to listen to and just very calm and clear!

[@vt6020]

Morad, Go VROOM! I just wanted to thank you again, for making these videos. I look forward to your answers to the great questions asked by the community.

[@tapatsos]

Morad Go Vroom! Great Video man. Great to know your point of view and the dif from the real thing since we wont have the chance to experience the real thing!

[@willy08bm]

I have to say this is incredible 😳Amazing comparison. So cool to watch Great video

[@danielmorad]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Sean-ps3ec]

Thanks for the insight as usual Dan! I LOVE the AMG GT4 in iRacing it is my GO TO car and it feels great to drive. Thank you for your real life insight into how well iRacing made their version of that car, And don't let the trolls get to you! Don't stop making these bro!

[@kevbarber]

Each video is more rad than the one before!

[@simracer-65]

Morad go vroom. Amazing comparison, thanks for this video....loved it 👍👏

[@TANGORACING]

This in detail comparisson was so incredibly interesting, thx a lot for sharing your impressions! I think it's fantastic that you find the interest and time to compare those two worlds in details and describe it to those who probably never have the chance to drive in a real race car. I'd also love to see you reviewing and comparing race incidents / racecraft, especially in multiclass endurance races of your IRL experience and situations you came across in iRacing and/or videos of such situations being sent to you. I think that would also be very interesting to see the point of view of a professional IRL racer in some tricky multiclass racecraft situations / passes.

[@danielmorad]

I made a video about that but I could expand on it a bit more. Thanks a lot.

[@Steve4755]

MORADGOVROOM! We need more of these takes!

[@danielmorad]

Oh I’m on it! I’ll get some footage from VIR and Indy and post it up once the IMSA race weekends are done.

[@MrMiniPilote]

Morad go vroom. Pedal fast! Thanks for the content.

[@danielmorad]

Thanks so much

[@SpinningSandwich]

I've heard similar feedback about the Porsche GT4 from real life drivers. Even with only road car experience, it feels a lot closer to me (especially the ability to regain control if you flirt with the limit, which iracing traditionally fails hard at) than many other cars in that sim. Hopefully they can get most of the cars up to this level.

[@PedroSantos_83]

Amazing, thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge. A big hug from a Portuguese sim racer. 😎

[@danielmorad]

My pleasure!

[@bruce8532]

Morad go vroom! Love the video’s, really appreciate your knowledge and insight. Would love to see a video on brake pedal setup - from a typical sim pedal to a real gt3/gt4 pedal. Thanks for the videos!

[@patrickdurka6188]

What a great video Daniel! I think you could get a tiny bit more feeling mid corner, if you would adjust your simucube settings. Running a bit lower forces without any static force reduction while using less friction really helps with that. But most of it is probably because of the tire model. Can’t wait to see iracings new tire model haha Morad go vroom!

[@danielmorad]

Definitely. I’ve played a lot with it. It’s a tire thing.

[@patrickdurka6188]

@@danielmorad your definitely right with that, the tires arent 100% correct. I just think that running static force reduction can make the cornering grip levels feel weird, because that filter is time based, not telemetry based. So it will cut off more force in long corners, than in short ones and barely do anything on fast direction changes. Running a lower max force ends up being more consistent and allows for a tad less damping/friction. But if you have done extensive testing, you will know what you are talking about 👍 to be honest i am already pretty blow away by how close you rated it compared to the real thing! The video was really informative as always daniel, your content is the best 🙏 is there any chance for a prototype video in the future? I know your mainly a gt3 and gt4 driver, but you have also driven prototypes in the past, right?

[@adventuresofjandk]

Best sim racing channel ever.

[@danielmorad]

Thanks a lot man

[@CreegzInCanada]

Morad go vroom! I always wondered how close these would feel. I use the AMG GT3 after coming from it and the GT4 in ACC. A couple nitpicky things about the dash for the iRacing version (no notification on screen for brake bias changes and to me the Engine Maps are backwards) but I have always wondered how close they are with that car even down to notifications on the dash.

[@danielmorad]

We dont get BB change on the dash. That isnt real in ACC. The screen is identical to the real car.

[@IAmUltraMAGA]

As far as the braking, what would you recommend for a max kg on a load cell pedal? 40kg=100% 55kg=100% often wondered about this when I set up my Heusinkveld pedals.

[@MendicantBias1]

1000kg

[@CTsoX]

❤ Morad go vroom. A great watch as always.

[@danielmorad]

Thanks a lot :)

[@BronzeSwan]

Morad go vroom! Heck yea man, another banger video. Love these side by side comparisons. Would love to see more stuff like this with some other cars too. I realize that's a little difficult seeing as your drive for Merc but if you had any footage from your LMP test drives that'd be dope.

[@danielmorad]

I don’t have any other footage really. It would be cool to sample a bunch of different ones though.

[@MikeBoire]

Morad go Vroom. Big fan. Love to see you share some setup videos and track guides. 👍

[@danielmorad]

Will do! Thanks for the ideas.

[@Syndr34]

Morad go Vroom. I love both Mercedes on iRacing. Love the way they drive,and sound. Always a lot of fun.

[@danielmorad]

Same here!

[@Maxtopic69]

GT4 is the class to drive. I love it in iRacing. I’m sure the experience in a real car is amazing. Thanks for this video, it helps with those questions I’ve always had.

[@danielmorad]

It’s so much fun to drive. The racing is incredible as well. In my opinion, it’s one of the best classes of racing because you don’t have a lot of downforce, and it’s all based on mechanical grip.

[@teaks68]

MoradGoVroom!! Great video Daniel!! I am going to go download the car right now and try it out!!

[@Mike-ey]

Morad's in love with iracing! And I am too, it's so good. Morad go vroom

[@danielmorad]

I have no need to feel this way other than it being a good game. I’m not paid by them and all of the opinions are my own. I love how there a few comments saying that I’m a fan boy. It just is what it is. There’s a reason Max Verstappen plays iRacing and nothing else.

[@ReavusRacing]

Morad go vroom! Another really informative video. Such a great comparison.

[@rob8034]

Morad go Vroom! Loved the video, it would be interesting to invite one of your competitors to do the same comparison of their GT4 car on your rig. Would love to know how close the other cars are to the real world experience.

[@danielmorad]

That’s such a good idea. I’ll see what we can do

[@joey_wolfslayer8818]

Morad go vroom! 😂 Love the content, it’s helped me improve quite a bit over the last couple months. Please keep it up and offer all the insight you can

[@danielmorad]

Thanks! Will do!

[@T_FALCON]

Morad go vroom! Thank you for sharing your knowledge again. After the VIR onboard and now this I actually won a race at VIR remembering your lines through that track. Now with the Merc GT4 I’ll try and put some of your input about braking and throttle control into practice. Been thinking about a coaching session one of these days.

[@danielmorad]

That’s awesome that you can pick up on that stuff and put it into practice. Congrats on the win

[@joshc9412]

Morad go vroom!! Thanks for all the insight. I really enjoy hearing your take

[@alexsl3572]

Hello Daniel ! A huge thank you for your videos and your sharing of experience. Like many, I am passionate about motorsport but I do not have your chance to drive in real life. Simulation is a way to satisfy my passion. I loved your video on the driver's position in the cockpit (seat, steering wheel, pedals), by comparing your measurements to mine, I have almost the same, a few centimeters or degrees ready I was so suprised but so happy to have a real comparison possible.

[@IvanFamanni]

thank you very much because i decided to start riding on iracing and your video convinced me even more i ride on ACC in lowfuel motorsport LFM but i want to try other and other cars being a big fan of rally and H gearbox

[@danielmorad]

Awesome. Regardless of what you play, just make sure you’re having fun :)

[@thecasualracinggamer]

Morad go vroom. 😁 Great video. Amazing how similar the laps look. Good luck in your next race!

[@danielmorad]

Thanks a lot

[@kost9lbrik135]

Morad go Vroom. Looking forward to see more comparison like that. Not much itme to sit also on IRacing, though sounds like a great platform, no way to find time for all of them. Keep up with great content.

[@ericlabbe321]

Morad go VROOOM! Thanks for this video. Always nice for me, sim-only amateur, to know that what I'm experiencing in the rig is not too disconnected from reality!

[@11sHangar]

We appreciate your spin on sim racing and coming from a REAL driver, your opinion holds merit and value. Don't sweat the haters, they are losers anyway! Morad Go Vroom! Stay Frosty! 😉

[@sylvanovitch1969]

Wow amazing comparison. Love it. Thank you.

[@A-man-yf6pr]

Morad go vroom!. Love the comparisons. Thank you for your time 👍🏻👍🏻

[@carlosangalang]

Morad go vroom! Really enjoying your IRL racecar driver comparison to sim racing and how your using iracing to complement your prep for real life races

[@tuxdapen]

Morad go vroom! Thank you for the video.

[@danielmorad]

Thanks for watching!

[@fan2hd277]

I can totally relate to what you feel although I‘m not a real life race driver. Two things: where IRacing really have to step up is the tire models, BOP between cars and the force feedback especially on corners combined with tires pressure.

[@jonathan_toole]

Man these videos are so cool!

[@danielmorad]

Glad you like them!

[@frostbytesims]

Sick! This is truly one of a kind driver insight.

[@robconohan3537]

Great video Daniel MGV!

[@CuchillodeLobo]

Es bueno saber que este GT4 Mercedes está tan bien simulado en este sim, porque en la práctica ningún simulador consigue hacer todos los coches mejor que los demás y siempre hay coches mejor simulados en unos sims que en otros. Lo realmente fascinante ahora que prácticamente la gran mayoría de profesionales del mundo real ya usáis simuladores en casa sería poder saber que simuladores tiene las mejores réplicas en concreto de cada coches del mundo real, sería estupendo para nosotros los aficionados. Gracias por tus vídeos Daniel, Morad Go Vroom!

[@danielmorad]

Thank you very much

[@patrickle1]

MORAD GO VROOM! Awesome video thanks for all you do! Can you speak to other gt4 vehicles. I tend to like Porsche cars but now thinking of getting fbr Mercedes

[@johnmellott5570]

Awesome how your passion for REAL racing matches your passion for sim also!

[@valuetime2492]

Hi!!! Congrats for your Chanell!! Which fan system do you use?

[@danielmorad]

Thanks a lot. For fans, I have cheap ones from Amazon lol. They’re on my Amazon shop if you go in my discord, the link is there

[@adriantrise493]

Morad go vroom! Brilliant video - many thanks.

[@CharlesK441]

Morad go Vroom - Again! Great job 👏🏾 👍🏾

[@0svold]

I just stumbled across this video today and it's absolutely great to see a comparison from someone who actually uses this car. I do have two questions about braking though: 1) In the iRacing, everyone brakes 100% before slow corners and the ABS kicks in. In GT3 cars in iRacing this is not possible, the wheels overheat but in GT4 there is no penalty for this in the form of overheated wheels or other issues, is this the case in real life? 2) In the video of the real car, you can see that the brake pedal has quite a lot of travel. Nowadays, a number of simulator equipment manufacturers tell us (Asetek for example) that race car pedals have almost zero travel, and that the brake actually behaves as if one is pushing one's foot against a wall. It is obvious from the video that this is not true. Which pedals are you using please? Which pedals are closest to a GT4 car in your experience? Anyway Morad, thanks so much for that comparison.

[@danielmorad]

Thanks a lot. To put it simply. I don’t necessarily brake at 100% in game. It’s very rare that I go to the maximum pressure. I always feel like I go faster when I’m modulating the max pressure. Depends on the elevation and compression of the tires. But normally, it’s better not to smash to 100%, but you can get away with it and not be too far off pace. Same in real life. I tent to not brake as hard as possible. I really try to feel the grip in the tires. In terms of pedals, I use Simucube ActivePedals. They’re super expensive but honestly, it’s the only pedal that has Precision and the correct travel. Normally with standard elastomer load cell pedals, they need stiff and short travel to get precise values on the sims. I’ve never driven a race car, even a formula or prototype that had a brake travel as short as these modern sim pedals

[@tbsports5658]

Morad go vroom! ;-) Wondering if you've had seat time in the Porsche GT4 and how that compares between sim and rl? I use it to prep for PCA club racing. Have to give it max BOP penalty to match the GTB1 cayman class I drive but I am personally finding it incredibly close. Biggest thing irl is the pucker factor!

[@j.b219]

Morad go vroom! great video. Love it! Thank you.

[@youtubecomments5951]

Here’s a fact for those calling us iracing fanboys because yall can’t afford this cheap entry into learning how to drive. When you track a cheap entry level car like a miata every track weekend will cost you 800 and up. So this 10x in in a course of 3 months and you’d see iracing as cheap investment towards you actual driving skill and learning tracks.

[@N8Dog3638]

Morad Go Vroom! First off, excellent video! Definitely appreciate your opinions on the comparison between the real car and the sim. And excellent work on the production of the video too. Your vids keep getting better and better. 2nd, I do have a couple of questions. Is there any reason you didn't use the same car setup in the sim as you did in the real car? And do you feel it would have made much of a difference if you had/could have? And 3rd, sorry for your tough break at Mosport. I know that's racing, but you were still robbed. We all wanted to see you do your thing in that race. But don't let that slow your momentum. You've been on fire this season! So go get your redemption next round!

[@danielmorad]

Thank you so much. Appreciate the support. The reason I didn’t use the exact set up is because it’s fairly close using the baseline. There isn’t much you can do in terms of set up. Plus, I don’t have the exact set up sheet so if I start changing one thing, I’d have to change everything. It’s just a really good baseline to show how close they both drive.

[@ronknox3376]

Morad go Vroom! I was hoping to see you in action at CTMP this past weekend in the GT4 Merc AMG but your car went out before you could get a chance to buckle in. If you ever do a video on Mosport please emphasize that iRacing need to do an update. Maybe they'll see your video BTW awesome drive in Detroit!!!

[@danielmorad]

They definitely need to do an upgrade on the track

[@AllStarSnork]

Morad go vroom! Thanks for the vid. Very helpful

[@danielmorad]

Glad it helped!

[@Moelders109]

Morad go Vroom! 10 months late... Great vid and nice side by side comparison.

[@tano99999]

Morad, go vroom! Thanks for sharing your insights. Glad I happen to choose the Merc too 😁

[@danielmorad]

Good choice!

[@charliebeckey6269]

Morad go vroom :). If you haven't already, I would try playing around with irffb. It's a 3rd party software which adds ffb effects based off game telemetry. The "seat of pants" or oversteer effect I find the most useful. Gives you a nice subtle opposite torque feeling when the rears start to go. Makes the ffb almost feel like AC1.

[@davidq77]

Morad go Vroom, ,I've enjoyed a lot this comparison ,the gt4 is one of the cars I'm dirving this season on Iricing, Knowing is so close to real life is a plus and extra motivation to drive this car. Whta about a tips, tricls, techniques in how to drive the gt4?, would be great for people driving the car i RL and also in Iracing. Thanks again, and great to see someone that can comunicate passion and enjoyiment of what is doing. Thanks again

[@Hani_Santa]

Thanks amazing, I hope Iracing is taking your feedback about grip serious. Who else to listen to then such an accomplished racedriver as yourself.

[@danielmorad]

They definitely are listening to the feedback.

[@Hani_Santa]

@@danielmorad amazing news.

[@Raceeverything]

Really cool video! These comparisons are awesome !