The Completionist's Charity Finally Donated...

Hello guys and gals, it's me Mutahar again! This time we take a look at what appears to be an update on The Open Hand Foundation situation where it seems a donation has been made, this is the bare minimum and a lot of questions remain. This is however a good first step. Thanks for watching!
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[@CO0L_CAT]

Ok

[@Duck931]

He was right. It all seems like damage control.

[@randomwords577]

■■○■○□☆

[@1981troyboy]

there is still money missing. a lot of money missing. the golf money, the money they made this year, money from twitch bits and subs

[@kobra6660]

So where's the money from the golf stuff that they never mentioned

[@shr1mpsush1]

He only donated after the community hit him with a microscope and a spotlight. Truly a generous man

[@fixedfunshow]

Jirad liked the money's smell...

[@alfonzie11]

@@fixedfunshow digital pixel smell

[@ICharlyl]

To be fair that's the reason he said in the call he didn't want to donate the money yet, so it didn't appear like he just did it for being called out. That said he cared more about his self image than donating the money because it still took him months and a couple of videos to do so.

[@coryfice1881]

@@ICharlyl It took him 10 years to be exact.

[@oz_jones]

​@@ICharlylhe had said for years that the foundation has donated the money. Stop simping for criminals

[@soulsmith4787]

We don't know what the full amount of donations is supposed to be because they withheld funds from the golf event on their tax document. The donation they did make wasn't even the full amount they said was in the Open Hands' bank account. This absolutely still needs to be investigated.

[@YurinanAcquiline]

Agreed

[@OsaculnenolajO]

Yeah this is far from over. If the gold tournaments were also raising money for The Open Hand foundation for literal years, then why are we only seeing the money from the live streams being donated? Where did all the golf tournament money go? This is their last ditch effort to save face. It's also kinda gross to read the article written as if this was done out of the good of their hearts. Bullshit. They were literally forced to donate it. The entire article is disingenuous.

[@ashyelbows4558]

Lol they donated the lowballed estimate of muta and Karl. To me just proves they don't have the money. Or just as worst, they think they can get away with only donating the lowball and are gonna hold on to the rest, assuming the completionist has the money

[@HankHillspimphand]

yea i bet jirad could easly come up with 100,000s(or more....getting a loan remorage house. maybe that's why it took him a month to do it) if money was missing he could make up the difference , so this to me doesnt prove the was no fraud. it gives me more questions. jirad will NEVER EVER be forgiven by me. at best he lost 50k from inflation while the money did nothing.

[@sebay4654]

Yeah I have the same perspective I think that the donation more likely then anything is to try to sweep the entire golf situation under the rug

[@Alex-bp9vv]

Imagine if these videos were never made, they probably would’ve taken more years to donate.

[@thomasliu5457]

Assuming they’d even donate without Mutahar & Karl pressuring them is as bold as their original claims about supporting dementia research

[@ΦιλίαΒλησίδη]

yeah sure dude ! they would have taken the money for retirement the only problem they caught them !

[@Zombertino]

I don't think the money would have ever been donated...

[@supersardonic1179]

They still haven't donated everything...

[@fixedfunshow]

@@Zombertino Jirad knew he could keep the smokes because he's famous enough to get away with stuff.

[@DistantKingdom]

So bizarre to raise money to fight a disease that killed your own wife/mother but then proceed to do nothing for a decade with said money They really let that woman down

[@le1660]

At this point I doubt they actually gave a fuck about her at all. How did they think no one was gonna do the math and realize they didn't donate the money? They had to have known this was going to be the outcome eventually. Easy way to completely ruin your reputation.

[@toolatetothestory]

At this point, I doubt she is even dead to be honest. Or ever had dementia. @@le1660

[@alpaca6462]

It gets worse, her husband has been documented with another woman before she even died. There's pictures of them together before his wife died and pictures of them kissing and holding each other on his birthday which was like two months after her death Dude moved on before even losing his wife and then pulled the sympathy card

[@resean2727]

Damn you still alive?

[@HExtraordinaire]

If that's how they treat family, I don't want to know how they treat enemies

[@jessbellis9510]

OpenHand still 100% needs to be fully audited by the IRS.

[@njm-ps5wx]

For sure, I sincerely doubt this money came directly from their charity's bank account, pretty sure that money was in their pockets first.

[@Syllaren]

​@njm-ps5wx also the problem is this is significantly lower than what the full amount should be right now. So right now all we can confirm is that 600k of about a million is still in the accounts. 300K+ is still a LOT of potential skimming.

[@sdfxcvblank5756]

I'm 100% certain that it came from Daddy's pocket, The guys committed enough fraud that he probably is sitting on millions of dollars, what's a few bucks to prevent your kids from going to jail

[@banjogyro]

Completionist getting IRS ending for 100%

[@derekrequiem4359]

@@banjogyro Maybe he'll get the jail ending too.

[@ChefBoyareB]

They still need to be investigated by the IRS. I have a feeling they donated to get people off their backs. There is missing money and they need to be held accountable.

[@reiddutchess9955]

They won’t be

[@GummyDinosaursify]

@@reiddutchess9955 The IRS doesn't fuck around when it comes to tax evasion in the 100ks. Guaranteed they're going to look into this.

[@reiddutchess9955]

I meant they won't be held accountable, not that the IRS won't investigate. @@GummyDinosaursify

[@astuteandy]

​@@reiddutchess9955"being held accountable" is literally what he means by saying the IRS needs to audit them. Whether or not his loyal community of fans finds his actions acceptable is irrelevant.

[@reiddutchess9955]

@@astuteandy an investigation isn’t being held accountable. Actual consequences for unethical or criminal behavior is being held accountable.

[@Sevenigma777]

Imagine running a charity collecting people's money for a decade and only donating money one time after being called out. I bet this is going to be there one and only donation as well.

[@--_DJ_--]

Well you would have to be pretty foolish (or uninformed I suppose) to donate anything to them at this point.

[@Blackspidy619]

I'm convinced the money was placed into another money making endeavor, and that's why it took them some time to donate it. They had to divest the money over the course of a few weeks.

[@0potion]

​@@Blackspidy619Which is fraud so.....

[@ephemeralburb]

They literally cant, they still owe 55K from the tax fillings that weren't donated. They also still have to give explanations for whatever they did with the golf tournament earnings because that money wasn't registered in the records of the Open Hand Foundation charity. Anyways, no one should donate or sponsor them ever again after this fiasco.

[@Tru3mus1c]

@@Blackspidy619 you cannot be serious...

[@ftrwrwbg]

You might mention it in the video, but I thought it was really gross how the donation was framed as this beautiful act of charity. The article discussing it doesn’t call out what they did or that they were basically cornered into doing this. It’s made it seem like this spontaneous, wonderful act of kindness, and that just really bothers me.

[@gp-1542]

Pulling a devil’s advocate, maybe they didn’t hear about the sh**show?

[@Deadwolfthedark66]

Doubt it a PR company was hired by them@@gp-1542

[@NightridingDoom]

tip: media never does it's work

[@CrayCrayslab]

​@@gp-1542 If they didn't catch this shitshow then they shouldn't be a journalist

[@layzface7775]

You really think that the receiving end really wants that stink to to be attached to them too?

[@Dorelaxen]

Snitching is telling your boss a co-worker took an extra 5 minutes on their break. Exposing a SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR scam like this isn't snitching, it's shining a light on some underhanded shit.

[@brilobox2]

*likely illegal*, not just underhanded

[@fatbroccoli8]

@@SonicXisCanondementia is not "oddly specific" They said they were donating but weren't so whatever way you cut it, it is still fraud. You don't need to accrue millions of dollars before donating, that is just a ridiculous thing to say. But I'll look forward to your video

[@lock8268]

​@@SonicXisCanon Then make a video.

[@toms18]

​@@SonicXisCanon interesting, I'll wait for your video, can wait for these fake youtubers to get wrecked. In the mean time do you have anything to say about the casual knowledge of the golf tournament money, please?

[@yvendous]

​@@SonicXisCanonif "Jirard likely" did anything that would explain this, he could explain it and help himself out way before this point. They aren't "snitching", this isn't a school yard.

[@topwomble]

Wow, guess he finally found the right charity really fast after struggling for years 😂

[@HandheldGamer1991]

The donate achievement takes 10 years didnt you know that?!

[@Aeduo]

It's weird one of his hangups was it not going to some doctor's salary or something and it's like, what do they think the money is supposed to pay for if not for people to do their job towards those efforts? The worst would be if it just went in to some owner's bonus or something.

[@superstd]

maybe he was trying to get the achievement "stall donation as long as possible" sadly he only got to around 10 years , truly a dedication .

[@bloodhound1182]

FR BRO. He should've donated the money. I mean, it's not like once he donates the money it's gonna sit in a bank account for 10 years@@Aeduo

[@TomoEriGoto]

Only reason they donated was because they knew there would be more legal problems in their future if they kept the money since the cat’s out of the bag. Bet you a shiny penny they’d keep it otherwise.

[@MasterLPG]

We don't know what the full amount of donations is supposed to be because they withheld funds from the golf event on their tax document. The donation they did make wasn't even the full amount they said was in the Open Hands' bank account. This absolutely still needs to be investigated.

[@thetruckfreak7858]

Hey, I want that shiny penny

[@samus6256]

For the charity, and the completionists brand it was way too late. The charity will probably never get another donation and the completionists brand and his "charity work" is 100% dead.

[@JayDubWilly]

@@samus6256 Na there are still meat-riding apologists that will line up again next year.... unless the AG of CA or IRS sets this straight, they will get money in 2024.

[@grizzlywhisker]

Obviously they were scamming and yeah they would have kept it. All these charities are scams anyways, so now some other criminal gets to retire on these viewer donations instead of Jirard and his family members.

[@Reece_Hart]

I hate the mindset that exposing something like this would be considered snitching. There's a difference between being a snitch and being a whistleblower

[@blakewhite3131]

Being a snitch is like telling on your sibling for cussing. Being a whistleblower is saying, "hey y'all, i think serious crimes are afoot, lets look at this."

[@grizzlywhisker]

Yeah this is not "snitching." If it was snitching, then that would mean that the viewers who donated knew it was a scam and were just donating for the sole reason of secretly making Jirard 's family rich...

[@MrKrewie]

If snitching means letting the viewers know the truth about scam charities then I'm all for it

[@Relativity404]

If you want to get pedantic, this isn't whisleblowing either, as it's being brought to light by someone from the outside, not from within.

[@Isuperspy]

The whole concept of calling people snitches these days is just to shame people who bring any kind of wrong doing to light.

[@AP-kh4jx]

As someone who has been studying and researching Alzheimer’s and various forms of dementia for a good chunk of my life: Thank you for calling this out. The geriatric patient population and their caregivers are a sensitive population and they have been through a lot. We have had a rough couple of years (poor communication, research fraud, MAB drug debates) and it was really disheartening to see this current situation go down. It’s great that there are people like you watching closely to nip these situations in the butt. You are a good man, Muta.

[@91MRJ]

Research fraud? What happened?

[@CainXVII]

And thank YOU for doing the hard work. Having seen it up close I am very grateful.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

I feel bad for pointing it out but the idiom is "nip it in the bud". You cut it out from a plant before it grows out. I used to say "the gig is up" and "butt naked" (instead of jig and buck naked) because we hear idioms without ever reading them in text.

[@Tejan45]

​@@91MRJnot him so I don't know what he means exactly, but I believe one of the main things being researched as a cause and potential cure, the brain plaque theory, has been fake since it's inception and the researchers knew.

[@AP-kh4jx]

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD Hahaha thank you for pointing this out. I’ve been saying it wrong, and getting away with it, for my whole life!

[@kikuchi10]

Remember people: They donated the declared amount, not the total received. There are definitely more donations hidden somewhere that is not on paper.

[@Mcaark]

Yeesh, if that turns out to be true it's just gonna be incredible to see.

[@ParasiteEvel]

Didnt he have like $660,000? And only donated $600,000? So where did $60,000 go?

[@mar7348]

@@ParasiteEvelit went to offset production costs

[@ParasiteEvel]

@@mar7348 that's horrible if so, because he even said "I used some for production costs, but it was only a few thousand" $60,000 is not a "few" jeez this guy can't stop lying.

[@vedantbhard]

@@ParasiteEvel no no, there's probably way over $660,000 which was actually received. that was only the number given in the books. even from that, only $600,000 has been used.

[@chicken984]

Without too much detail, my grandmother has dementia. My mum hasnt worked in over a decade, and spends her days dealing with some frankly surprising situations brought on by my grandmothers illness. This affects me more than you could know. Thank you for helping him to correct his actions

[@EnkiDootDoot]

As a completionist, it’s ironic of Jirard to just do the bare minimum when it comes to charities trying to prevent the disease that killed his own mom

[@samus6256]

It was a scam. He probably had good intentions but when their family got ahold of the money the allure to keep it was to great. The greed got to them and considering they used their dead mother as the reason for the charity they are disgusting humans who need to see prison time.

[@teh1archon]

As The Completionist it's ironic he didn't complete his side of the bargain.

[@darthvahlias8904]

As The Completionist, he did completely screw himself on this one 😂

[@pippo17173]

@@samus6256 I wouldn't be surprise by that but he will probaly be still be going to jail regardless. Even if we take his word of not knowing till now, that is not gonna save him from that unless he gets a plea deal or something.

[@mrtree1368]

He wasn't gonna donate until he had enough money to cure everyone

[@Nyxxeonn]

This whole situation is just getting more and more confusing.. like the first excuse was that they wanted to find "the right charity", only to then donate to the charity that was listed all along? It's so weird.

[@MasterLPG]

We also don't know what the full amount of donations is supposed to be because they withheld funds from the golf event on their tax document. The donation they did make wasn't even the full amount they said was in the Open Hands' bank account. This absolutely still needs to be investigated.

[@hairymcnipples]

It's not really that confusing. They were planning to keep the money. They got caught, so now they're trying desperately to look like they were planning to do the right thing all along.

[@samus6256]

Honestly I think it is sort of simple if you realize it is a scam and a fraud charity and they always planned on keeping the money.

[@HeyitsTom999]

I mean that excuse has GOT to be bullshit. If he believed that the charities he was naming weren't good enough or weren't using the money the way he felt it should be used, why keep publicly endorsing them? It doesn't make sense.

[@EvoSchecter]

@@hairymcnipples why would they keep the money, it didnt gain any value at all.

[@Neohampster]

So assuming this WASN'T a scam attempt, which is still highly likely, they need to shut the organization down and stop taking donations immediately. Best case scenario they are so incompetent at running a charity that they cannot be trusted with any funds anymore and worst case scenario they were waiting a few more years before vanishing the money and ghosting the internet or something. Either way they need to disband the org and move on, I don't see a way you walk away from this level of malicious theft / utter incompetence.

[@LunaticKD1991]

They're not getting off that easy. The government is going to crack down hard on this. You can believe that. The IRS don't play when you lie or misreport on tax filings.

[@EighmyLupin]

Oh it was 100% a scam. The fact there are 100,000s of dollars missing from all the non Indieland events that just "disappeared" and never made it into the IRS reports, tell us they've been skimming off the top this whole time and hoping no would would notice if the majority of the money just stood still.

[@shinx_7537]

Mega prison

[@tr1co0]

Great vid. One note: didn’t say “ladies and gentlemen” enough.

[@rudeboyjohn3483]

​@@LunaticKD1991ehhhh I mean, he is incorporated. They're basically allowed to do the fuck whatever

[@DawnOfTheOzz]

Even if money was donated, there still should be an audit to know where that money came from. For all we know, that "donation" probably came out of pocket from Jirard and his family and not from the foundation itself.

[@Archivist42]

I was thinking something similar, might explain the delay as they scrambled to get the money together

[@qwerfa]

My personal tinfoil is that they put the money in a safe investment scheme. They make a small but not insignificant interests return, and if they get caught, they pull the capital and donate it.

[@ignskeletons]

Near the end of the video Jirard explicitly addresses this concern and claims the money came from funds which were never touched in the account, says he or his family didn't direct deposit from personal accounts to make the recent $600K donation. Is this true? Who knows. Well, actually the IRS knows and will find out when they audit his ass.

[@CarlosGordo97]

​​@@qwerfaThat's what I was thinking too. Seems like the safest way to make more money there.

[@ArchibaldClumpy]

That's what the Mormon church does. They claim the money they collect from their members isn't being used for profit, but they invest the money and use the *interest* to fund commercial ventures.

[@Fadexpl]

Congratulations to you and Karl, thanks to your efforts 600k dollars will aid in dementia research!

[@REfan2002]

This won't change the face that hes not only ruined his rep, his career, his channels and his charity.

[@MasterLPG]

We also don't know what the full amount of donations is supposed to be because they withheld funds from the golf event on their tax document. The donation they did make wasn't even the full amount they said was in the Open Hands' bank account. This absolutely still needs to be investigated.

[@samus6256]

100%

[@Fender178]

Not to mention his him and his family could be facing jail time for this as well.

[@derrickwhipp1613]

Lmao you are insane if you think this is going to ruin his career, this will blow over and ppl will watch his videos, majority of ppl do not watch this stuff and do not really care about it. It happens constantly and yet everyone always thinks “oh I saw it and I care so therefore everyone else does” There’s channels with legit psychopaths and ppl who are known content thieves and they are still successful

[@Fender178]

@@derrickwhipp1613 It will ruin his career if he goes to prison for charity fraud which could happen.

[@agrape2887]

Man they found a charity real fuckin quick after being looked at

[@MasterLPG]

We also don't know what the full amount of donations is supposed to be because they withheld funds from the golf event on their tax document. The donation they did make wasn't even the full amount they said was in the Open Hands' bank account. This absolutely still needs to be investigated.

[@Giozize]

You know…the initial charity he said he was working with from the beginning. SUDDENLY they are good partners to donate to, huh?

[@PatrickWilliams-ts4le]

He didn't even find one, he gave it to the original announced place. He essentially just spent a decade to hit a "transfer" button, the absolute fool.

[@MandyRosko]

@@MasterLPG Oh yeah I forgot about that, fuck

[@murashu]

@@Giozize my bet is the original charity saw all this going down and got their own lawyers involved forcing Open Hand to donate the money they have been publicly claiming they were donating.

[@Exile559]

Damage is already done to their reputation. Can't trust them anymore. In no way does it sound like they weren't trying to commit charity fraud....

[@OsaculnenolajO]

Yeah, no kidding. There are way too many discrepancies with their actions and comments to different people that call into question the foundations actual goals and operations. Like why did Jirard's brother(cousin?) email Karl and say they have been actively looking for charities to donate to. The same message was given by Jirard himself when they got his comment on the situation. Then how come he was on his podcast a few days later proudly name dropping his foundation and all the charities they have actively donated to and partnered with? Like how the fuck does that occur? Then there's all the questions of the golf tournament charity event and where all that unaccounted money went? I wanna give people the benefit of the doubt but this is blatantly in bad faith, and I REALLY hope that people don't see this donation as the end of the story. This is the absolute bare minimum of what should happen.

[@cowmath77]

In order to commit fraud, your actions need to result in personal gain, which clearly hasn't happened here with the money being there, being donated, and his name being drug through the mud. Quite literally zero personal gain.

[@Exile559]

@@cowmath77 there's still all the twitch bits missing and the golfing stuff. Charity fraud is the act of using deception to obtain money from people who believe they are donating to a charity. Often, individuals or groups will present false information claiming to be a charity or associated with one, and then ask potential donors for contributions to this non-existent charity. If this had never been brought to light through Karl and Muta, I highly doubt anything would have been done. The personal gain stuff also doesn't apply when talking about group organizations due to the fact people can noncomplicantly be involved. So them stating to be involved with a charity they clearly were not is already based grounds for deception.

[@NicolasBelmont]

An incompetent criminal is still a criminal. Just knocks it down to a charge of "conspiracy to commit", "attempted", or something similar.@@cowmath77

[@OsaculnenolajO]

@@cowmath77 Charity fraud can be as simple as claiming you are donating to a charity that you never actually did. Jirard has been doing this for years. That's fraud. Also, where is the money from IndieLand 2023? Where is all the money from the gol being run for the last decade? All of those donations flow through the Open Hand Foundation. So where are those donations? His name is being dragged through the mud because he lied to people for years, and only donated when he was exposed.

[@GardenCelluloids]

Well since this has now escalated to legality territory, I suppose we as the audience have no say in which who we think is innocent. This is going to be interesting

[@OminousToast]

Wow turns out the best charity to donate to was the leading/largest related charity... Guess he didnt hear of them until recently 🤥

[@Mean_Beans_]

Just think of all the progress that could have been made if they actually donated the money towards the charities all those years ago

[@ftrwrwbg]

And in the end it goes to the original one they said it was after they spent a decade “searching for the right one” I can’t believe anyone is buying this crap

[@619ver1]

Well, main issue is the inflation but...in the grand scheme of things, the money is still there and it was donated which is a BIG plus in my book. I often watch Coffeezilla where the money is simply gone, stollen by scammers so...i am willing to chalk that up to grave incompetence, though definitely would not donate to them

[@michaell4674]

this amount of money for medical research is literally peanuts. it’s 600k. not 20 million. what are you talking about all the progress lmao.

[@vincenzodellama7158]

Not defending the douchebaggery, but you don't need to imagine... The progress would be none. It's an uphill battle that takes decades, a lot of expensive equipment, and a small army of phds from all over the world. It's the kind of thing that takes dozens of billions and at the same time all that money and years isn't guaranteed to result in an effective treatment. 600k is pretty much chump change in the grand scheme of things.

[@themanofconstantsorrowelia1929]

​​@@vincenzodellama7158you know what chump change is better than? Nothing. Which is what they were donating. And now that they did this the amount of people donating is going to diminish. So they lost future donations and made it even more chump change. End of the day it's a major fuck up

[@das_vinci]

People who calls you out for "snitching" on this charity are people who either are too young, or evades taxes. Nothing else explains that behavior towards this case. People who pay taxes are always conscious where their money goes, if these people aren't feeling that, tells you quite a bit on how they are. I bet those people didn't put up even a dollar towards that charity, which also explains this behavior

[@CaptainXJ]

"People who pay taxes are always conscious where their money goes" no, no they are not unfortunately.

[@xxXKogasaWe3dL0rd420Xxx]

But paying taxes sucks. Why do I need to pay the government to build roads when they can literally print as much money they want, whenever they want???

[@Themacattack1209]

@@CaptainXJWhile that’s true, it’s still a childish mentality to get angry about people “snitching” on something that actually impacts people.

[@ferdinand12390]

@@CaptainXJ i kknow it´s going down the gutter or some shitty politicians pocket, but if i don´t pay, well, i get in jail unlike those jerks

[@CaptainXJ]

@@Themacattack1209 ok. I never said it wasnt...

[@joeykeilholz925]

You and Karl basically donated this money as far as I'm concerned. Thanks to everyone who kept on The Completionist for this scumbaggery.

[@outlawedmedia4336]

ikr

[@TheErikjsm]

lmao thats a stretch and a half but its good they brought it to light.

[@snakekingblues3017]

​@@TheErikjsmis it? It was just sitting there year after year while they were still asking for money not even letting people know Even if its "legal" Its still very Scummy

[@D44RK_Iced_Yogs]

As I’ve said before, the best thing Jirard can do is donate all the money raised and double it. I will only forgive them if and only if they get there crap together, announce what happened, an audit is done and after donating double what was raised.

[@PuthySlayer69420]

ye no they didnt

[@GuyDude-hk8uy]

Completionist simps: Ha! See! The money *was* still there! Mutahar and Karl were just a bunch of drama farmers! Normal people: Awesome. Thank you Mutahar and Karl for pushing them to finally make a donation so this money can stop depreciating in value and be put to some use in tackling neurodegenerative disease.

[@shakajolt1173]

Muta simps: "Ha! See! We were right all along, he MUST be guilty because *HE DEFENDED HIMSELF!* Only a criminal with a guilty conscience would EVER defend themselves!" KZbin needs to start banning drama tubers and encourage *actual* journalistic integrity and investigating rather than catering to armchair-detectives that haven't graduated middle school.

[@ufopilotFPV]

Nah that money was gone, the family have coughed this up fron their personal money in my opinion. No one sits on 600k for ten years.. watching it devalue as inflation goes up constantly.

[@ChineseKiwi]

Staring at those potential lawyer fees made it go from 0 to 600000 real quick.

[@gurthang667]

Probably the actual lawyer fees made it go from 655,000 to 600,000 sadly

[@fatbroccoli8]

@@SonicXisCanonyou might have a point if he wasn't actively lying about donating which is what this whole thing stems from, if he was honest about them not donating it then there wouldn't be an issue. (Pretty sure that's still illegal but there wouldn't be so much negativity around it) Btw Jirard and his charity started this controversy by saying they're donating to charity when they aren't, how you blame someone else for that is nuts

[@Zdub212]

​@SSJacksWolf Yeah, no doubt. I think that's a fundamental problem with charities. Always better to donate time instead of money in my opinion.

[@Zdub212]

​@@SonicXisCanoneven if Jirard was "right," his actions are still not right, morally or legally. Glad it's been donated now.

[@Chronokage]

​@SSJacksWolf that is a good narrative The Completionist said in his new video, but if he felt like holding onto the donation was the smart plan from the start why didn't he just tell SOG that in the discord call. As I remember it, back then The Completionist said "I knew the money wasn't being donated in 2020, and that wasn't cool" 🤔. It easy for him to spin the story now, but let's not forget the "restricted donation" was never explained by OHF OR The Completionist until after the first videos had been released.

[@TheAxb2010]

Two major benefits to the work Muta & Karl put in: 1. They forced a reaction, aka donation and set things in motion to ensure future transparency. 2. They raised this question: If the reason for the money sitting there for 10 years was legit, meaning they could not find a suitable receiver, why the fuck did Jirard continuously name drop organizations that they didn't deem as good enough?

[@Shaijn815]

Also when they got called out and this scandal happens he found the national leading charity for disease within a few weeks.... So are we aiming they couldn't have found this organisation within a few Google searches so what the fuck were they doing for 10 years.

[@thatHARVguy]

Watch as those very organizations were the ones they donate the money to. Doesn't matter if they donate all the funds for damage control, there's still the question of those golf tournaments. 👀

[@romarqable]

Some of the money was donated. They had 650k, and that isnt even including what they earned this year, which would be another 100k at least. Theyre still sitting on another 150k minimum, before you include the money that seems to be missing. Why didnt they donate all of it?

[@topsdaily_productions]

Don't forget the undisclosed gold tournament money they probably have 200-300k in an account

[@romarqable]

@@topsdaily_productions oh I know. That's what I meant when I said "before you include the money that seems to be missing." The whole thing is shady. They donated almost all the money to one charity. I wonder if this will end up being "I pledged X dollars" and they didn't pay out like Amber Heard.

[@vortex_1336]

Also the bits, subscriptions, and tips that were promised to the charity that also seemingly vanished. Probably a good 300k at least that just up and vanished.

[@ganymedehedgehog371]

Yeah I want to see what ends up happening with the IRS because either they stole the rest of the money or for some reason didn’t donate the rest.

[@tarille1043]

200-300k is still probably lowballing it. We know that they're missing like 75k from the grants from that other charity person. After indieland started, they seemed to have stopped reporting their golf tournament income, which if we're generous and say from 2018-2023 they'd continue making around 35-40k a year that's 210-250k This year had an indieland too so that's another 80-100k Then we're missing money from subs, bits, superchats, raffles, auctions, any donations sent to the charity via patrons of the golf tournament. Again, for at least 6 years (We don't know if the 2014-2018 reports that are the golf tournament include these additional funds or if it's purely just sponsors) which is likely another 100-200k Which would put the ballpark for missing funds at around 465-500k. Again, just since indieland at least (Though it wouldn't surprise me if they'd been skimming from the golf tournament the first 4 years too. In fact, the success of it probably prompted doing it with indieland)

[@riffcrypt8438]

This will likely get lost in the greater conversation but thanks to you and Karl this charity now has +$600,000. Thank you. Open Hand, in the most lenient perspective, became the exact type of inefficient money pit of a charity they were hoarding their funds to avoid.

[@Randomactivities2.0]

As someone who volunteered to be my farthers full-time caregiver, I appreciate your work. I've successfully gotten my old man off of insulin and am trying to get his hypertension under control to get him off those meds. It's a real struggle trying to pay bills and take care of a 100% disabled man who's losing his mind. What a wild ride.

[@DrRobby1985]

The fact that he had a meltdown about his self-image on your live call alongside Karl just made me realize what's really his priority.

[@themightyant.]

It’s hardly surprising. Jirard is an influencer, a public face, his reputation and image is everything, without it his business is worthless. Not saying it is ok, but it is understandable.

[@thelocalcrusader9522]

@@themightyant. yeah but his assumption that they'd immediately go after his rep was odd

[@fatbroccoli8]

Self preservation is normal, I wouldn't read too much into that, yeah he's out of touch but still his reaction could be put down to instinct

[@themightyant.]

@@thelocalcrusader9522 not really. Have you seen any other type of ‘calling out’ videos? When does it ever end well? Morevover he understands how the community will run with things. Look at what Mutatahar and Jobst said and then look at the communities reaction, turning things up to eleven and claiming things they didn’t even say. Jirard is savvy enough to KNOW it would significantly damage, or even kill, his career.

[@thelocalcrusader9522]

@@themightyant. Yeah the community might take it pretty badly that is to be expected but I'm more talking about him saying stuff like "if you just want me to shut up and take the L so you can make your videos" which seems weird that he'd say that especially considering karl and muta's reputation

[@explosivo666]

A donation has been made, but money is still missing.

[@TheEloheim]

Maybe it was mentioned in the video but is there even proof this was the same money people donated? Because one obvious possibility is Jirard scraped together $600k from him and/or his family and donated it when the story came out about the "missing" donations. Also it seems really suspicious that they donated exactly the amount brought up by Karl and Mutahar in the first video and none of the other hundreds of thousands of dollars (from the golf events, etc.) that have seemingly disappeared completely.

[@cowmath77]

@@TheEloheim yeah some gamers family just came up with 600k cash on the fly to give to charity... dude, lay off the Super Male Vitality Formula.

[@WayStedYou]

@@cowmath77 if they siphoned off 2m or something and showed they had only raised 600k, sure

[@Yuki-bk2my]

​@cowmath77 if they used this as a way to siphon money from a charity, they could definitely come up with 600k if they were trying to avoid an audit. I'm not saying they did this but its theoretically possible.

[@Xapheion101]

​@@cowmath77making a comment that naive and telling others to stay off of stuff is a heck of a bold move, can't see it paying off for you here though. "Some gamers" you mean a charity owner multi business owner with a large public follow, that's not "some gamers" dude quit sniffing your own expulsions.

[@willg3220]

Always do the right thing! After you're caught red-handed and have no choice but to do the right thing!

[@BloodyyPenguin]

Hopefully y’all don’t let Jirard off the hook. This whole situation was not good and they had other agendas.

[@xanderbose974]

FYI: “… and/ which, AGAIN….” was probably said about 30 times in this video; sometimes almost back to back to back. Thank you for holding that dude accountable.

[@skirato]

I enjoy the content, but this makes it hard to listen to. Especially once you notice it 😬

[@madhyama5016]

this

[@IllegalContractor]

Glad that the money was finally donated. But if their goal WAS to make restricted donations (on top of finding a charity that meets their standards) then they need to make that clear. I'm glad that you and Karl made these videos to shine light on the issue since I'm sure this thing would have stayed under the rug for who knows how long.

[@superstd]

yup if he is that bad with other people money maybe he need to be upfront about it

[@YukoValis]

Just this year on the golf charity website Open Hand says they raised $144K. That is for the golf charity alone. We have the pictures of the sponsorships and the prices they pay. It is fair to say the golf charity makes between $80-100K a year. That money just vanishes from the tax files. So that $600K is most likely half of what should have been donated.

[@Ospyro3em]

Although this is definitely good news, it wouldn't have happened without this issue being brought to light. It makes you wonder how long they would have held onto it. Let's see what the explanation for the missing golf money is.

[@erichdamer1312]

Probably that their accountant (whoever.that may be) is grossly incompetent (which wouldn't be a surprise) so they probably put it into a different account for the golf money and never sent it over to the Open Hand foundation "until they found a charity to send the money over to". That's still bad but I assume that will be their excuse

[@MasterLPG]

@@erichdamer1312 We also don't know what the full amount of donations is supposed to be because they withheld funds from the golf event on their tax document. The donation they did make wasn't even the full amount they said was in the Open Hands' bank account. This absolutely still needs to be investigated.

[@samus6256]

I don't think they would have ever donated the money. 10 years to not donate the money. That money was never going to leave their hands.

[@NathanCassidy721]

@@erichdamer1312 The problem with that excuse is they kept collecting money for that long. That’s the sketchy part that undermines a lot of the more reasonable explanations. Anybody’s online reputation involved with this charity is just destroyed. The question that determines if you can salvage it is “Did they get any of the money?”

[@CJ-ht4rf]

The completionist is trying to play his get out of jail free card. Can't wait to hear where the rest of the money actually went

[@SrtRacerBoy]

Money was probably sitting in a high interest account, so it could rack up interest to siphon off until noticed it was never donated. The average 5% APY right now is a pretty good income

[@maklame3318]

Int

[@grizzlywhisker]

My guess is that they were selling off chunks of Bitcoin for the past week to come up with the 600k lol.

[@anqeal]

i was just wondering about that too, like if it was all in a HYSA or CDs

[@MarcusWAndrade]

1- Receive donations 2- Keep it during 10 years, investing. 3- When someone discover, use some lame excuse, donate part of the money, save your reputation 4- Repeat

[@marlowencna]

i dont think #2 happened. as per original exposey, the money is there (no outbound transaction)

[@alyx1a]

I don't think anything was invested. 600k is only like 2/3 of the full money made by all of the funding avenues that the charity uses, I believe the 1/3 was pocketed

[@Cardb33]

Something tells me the reason the money was donated is cause you were right about the unreported money through the golf tournament and Indie Land. It would make perfect sense knowing the walls are closing in that they'd donate the $600k hoping everyone stops looking in to the unreported money. Considering the timing this really seems like damage control as opposed to actually being charitable. It's an amazing thing that the $600k was donated, that kind of money can go a long way, still it's hard to not think about the missing funds and the 10 years this money should've been being donated and how much research time it lost and the money losing it's value over time with inflation.

[@rault114]

This was 100% damage control. Why else would they donate $600K instead of the $655K that the tax filings claim they have? They're hoping to distract everyone with the "almost" enough money, so they can bury the actually missing money.... which they absolutely are doing right now...

[@Dragoonsoul7878]

Not just research time it lost and money losing its value. This likely delayed cures or treatments that could save or improve lives. This actively harmed people due to negligence when the money was meant to go there immediately.

[@rajismiley8937]

Mutaha u really shouldn't feel the need to defend your actions. The completionist misled his donors for nearly 10 years. Jirard and his family have been profiting off the back of others' empathy. Disgrace, period! Furthermore Jirard finds a worthy charity in less than 2 months after sitting on the money for 9 years, wow.

[@hiramsiqueiros9018]

so it took them 2 weeks to do what they were supposed to do for the past decade, round of applause for these generous people.

[@emeraldfinder5]

I mean, credit where credit is due, if this was Jake Paul the donation never would’ve been made even after all the pressure. The money is now going to help people, and that’s a win for everyone

[@horrorsans3676]

The real hero is probably the lawyer that told Jirad to donate the money so he can make a decent excuse.

[@slintisbased]

@@emeraldfinder5no. Credit is not due here. Do not pat them on the back for being forced into a corner. This money would have never been donated without the spotlight on them. Not even mentioning the fact that they’re underreporting revenue and using the golf tournament to embezzle money and enrich themselves. This is unforgivable

[@emeraldfinder5]

@@slintisbased I’m not patting them on the back but I’m not criticizing them further. They’ve donated the money, so we’ve achieved basically all we can by hating on them and pressuring them. As far as I’m concerned, hating on them any further is beating a dead horse. Let the authorities investigate it, and be happy the money did end up going where it can help people

[@chanhjohnnguyen1867]

@@emeraldfinder5nope.

[@renotv3860]

People are acting like the Conpletionist's response was a slam dunk when it really leaves a lot of loose ends. It'll be interesting to see how this turns out.

[@DarkKirby14LP]

exactly

[@RJam56]

How was it not? He addresses every thing clearly.

[@renotv3860]

@@RJam56 My biggest gripe is how he doesn't do a thorough breakdown of Open Hand's finances. He covers one year verbally, but he doesn't go through every year, and he provides no documentation. It's basically just "trust me bro." People say he brought receipts, where are they then?

[@FrostShaggy]

@reno Did you listen to him at all? Link in the description. He said it over and over in his video, linking you to proof. Maybe, click on one of em?

[@renotv3860]

@@FrostShaggy None of his sources are an actual breakdown of Open Hand's finances. I'm talking about income and expenses which should all have records. I can't say for sure if the numbers line up if we don't know for sure how much they spent and how much they received.

[@rew513]

Wow... it's so nice he donated money, after the entire internet hammered him for a month straight.

[@emeraldfinder5]

Two weeks* the donation was made on November 29th

[@ignskeletons]

we didn't hammer him even half as much as the IRS is about to

[@lennyface6828]

Thank you Muta and Karl for all of your time and effort into this. You're doing amazing work to make sure the right thing is done and that the money is actually donated. Thankfully the money was donated now thanks to you, Karl and everyone else that helped. I don't know if you'll see this but we appreciate everything you do!

[@oof_gang00]

Well, that’s great news. I’m surprised they actually donated.

[@1981troyboy]

yeah they only donated what was on the books. there is still all the golf money and twitch bits missing.

[@oof_gang00]

@@1981troyboy well, that’s really sleazy. Hopefully they donate it and get the backlash that’s coming to them.

[@9manny99]

Jail and Lawyers

[@omensoffate]

It’s great news ? lol

[@NiskaMagnusson]

I was one of these people that was really on the fence, but as time went on was pretty convinced they'd pocketed the money. Glad that wasn't the case

[@jordanbisasky4586]

Seems inefficient to donate to a charity (One Hand) that is donating to another charity (ATFD) that is effectively donating to other charities (Comstock Foundation)

[@Frilleon]

That’s the point. Tons of skimming. There’s plenty of corruption in charities, but open hand didn’t even try to donate a dollar to a good cause for 10 years until they got caught, and who knows how much they skimmed during that time? Also who knows what they were doing with the enormous amount of money over 10 years? Add on the lying and story changing…

[@lunaangeleclipse9745]

It's exactly for this reason that I try my best donate to charities that directly take action to help their cause. I avoid those third party charities if I can help it.

[@thegamingembassy1543]

Had a feeling this video was coming. This does not absolve Jirad for lying to us for years and for not coming clean public. I am glad that someone will get help from this money (which was the whole point). This has been sobering for me. Thank you.

[@shark_byte_clips]

Charity scams are much more common than you would think.. many charities either don’t properly disclose where the money is going, or purposefully mislead people as to what the charity is for… its one of those things where it creates an environment where embezzlement can run rampant.. seeing as that many youtubers have created their very own charities and foundations, i think its fair that all charities should be examined thoroughly, since youtubers dont have the best track record with intergrity…

[@valeoncat13]

Cooperate "elites" have been running this scam for even longer, the youtubers are just catching up to how it all works. The only way this type of thing is gonna change is if they the government were to actually do something about it. But with the problem of lobbying... it's an uphill battle. As is many things money related in the USA.

[@xt3100]

last i checked, i swear his brother ran the money side. so i like to believe/hope it was all due to his brother and he was honestly trying to move the money. Granted i feel like we don't know enough to know how guilty he is outside of atleast 2 years.

[@grizzlywhisker]

I would just assume every single charity is a blatant scam unless proven to be legitimate, yet somehow people are foolish enough to think it's the other way around.

[@cleanerben9636]

All charity is a scam.

[@notorio526]

​@@xt3100Why don't you actually WATCH these videos on the scam instead of defending criminals using false information. He admitted knowing no money had been given in 2021 but was still claiming to have worked with those charities in 2023

[@kristianferencik8685]

The question now: Is this from the money that was raised through the events/from public donation or is that they scraped to hide the potential charity fraud?

[@vortex_1336]

I would bet the second one. Probably used those couple weeks wiring money back into the charity account thinking Noone would notice.

[@MasterLPG]

@@vortex_1336 We also don't know what the full amount of donations is supposed to be because they withheld funds from the golf event on their tax document. The donation they did make wasn't even the full amount they said was in the Open Hands' bank account. This absolutely still needs to be investigated.

[@mattgottesmann3514]

I hope the gov actually looks into it and requests the bank statements to see what went where and when.

[@kristianferencik8685]

@mattgottesmann3514 in what way?

[@grizzlywhisker]

Yeah I'm betting they were selling off chunks off Bitcoin for the past week to come up with this donation without having to reach into their bank accounts lol.

[@pcnoad]

When you have to fight this hard to get someone to do the bare minimum after 10 years, it's no longer their accomplishment, it's yours. They may have had the money, but you're the reason it ended up where it belongs. I'm honestly amazed things turned out this well. I was half expecting the money to just be gone. Here's hoping the rest of the money can be accounted for and donated. Regardless of what the legal implications are for Jirard/OpenHand, at the very least they should never again be trusted as a charity. Even if the goal was just to accumulate funds for a lump sum donation, there needs to be a reasonable time limit. You either raise the required funds over the coarse of a year or you settle for a smaller donation. Waiting 2 years would already make me borderline suspicious. 10 years is just crazy.

[@jdizzle1337]

Just a reminder that even if all money has been accounted for and the charity did nothing illegal. Making misrepresentations such as "We don't touch a penny, it all goes to research", or claiming the money was already donated when it wasn't is still 100% charity fraud. The founder of Build The Wall charity was prosecuted for merely taking a salary after he said no one would take salary. That case was political, and it's unlikely Completionist would face prosecution; but technically any AG from a state that had somebody that donated to Open Hand could prosecute him for charity fraud.

[@Serch_YB27]

My father has brain damage from several cardiovascular incidents and Man... you are spot on, on how families have to deal with these situations... Fortunately we live in a country where most of my father's surgeries where basically free but medications and physical and cognitive therapy are expensive and my brother and I have both quit our jobs for some time periods in order to support him and be caregivers. Horrible how this money sat on a bank account for so long (speciaclly during the COVID!!), but glad how at lead it will now help research and families. I still hope they get audited and are forced to donate whatever money they under-reported and face justice for all of this.

[@ashleyjohansson230]

The completionist is probably like "no! not my secret retirement cash!"

[@shortbreadhead]

They've still got all that hidden cash from the golf tournaments sloshed away like infected squirrels paranoid at the world. Why they think they're gonna get away with that just because they didn't declare it when the evidence is out in the world, they have so much more to account for that they hope people either forget or don't look too closely at.

[@Adalon-]

I highly doubt it, considering the amount the guy makes lol.

[@CivilizedWasteland]

@@Adalon- ya millionaires are known for their hatred of money

[@Mbloc]

​@@Adalon-dont underestimate greed friend.

[@xDragonInstallx]

600k is pretty much a drop in the bucket in terms of retirement plans at his age.

[@blacksawjohnnyhex310]

Honestly the government at this point needs to open a influencer section for influencers who do shady shit like the TheCompletionist Logan paul and any other influencer who does scams and or shady shit. How many influencers has actually had the book thrown at them? Honestly wishing the best out of this situation

[@blacksawjohnnyhex310]

@@kingkarljfs7965oh I know that but they really should open an influencer section.

[@blacksawjohnnyhex310]

@@kingkarljfs7965 also the government lately been going after crypto scammers look for Example FTX SAFE MOON and Binance CEO yet they haven’t gone after logan is especially baffling.

[@blacksawjohnnyhex310]

@@kingkarljfs7965isn’t what he did fraud.

[@yuin3320]

​@@kingkarljfs7965That has nothing to do with what this person just said, so I'm not sure why you would bring it up.

[@clyde._]

Isn’t there a cyber crime unit, maybe they should focus more on online fraud than hackers.

[@anwest]

I honestly think that they used the donated money, and when people started to ask questions about where the money was, they went to their savings or took a bank loan and donated that money instead.

[@seger249]

That’s pretty obvious honestly. Of course they emblazoned all the money and only donated now because they got caught.

[@THamm-xt8jm]

Ya why did it take so long to donate the money if it was there the whole time

[@BriBCG]

Uh... No. If they used all the money and then got a loan to pay the charity it doesn't magically fix their books and make the fraud go away. It's a lot more likely the money was in fact always there sitting in the account. That doesn't explain what happened to the other money they should have had, though.

[@EighmyLupin]

I think they kept all the Indieland donation money in the bank, and that's what was donated. However, they skimmed all the golf money, and Twitch subs/bits that off the top and pocketed it. Which is why that money seems to be missing

[@tarille1043]

From appearances, it seems like a large portion of the money (The direct earnings from indieland) was simply left in the account to fester, with them occasionally dipping into it to fund their events. Likely as a sort of decoy so when questioned they can be like "Look, the money from our fundraiser is still here! We're not taking any of it!" While the golf tournament money, the bits/subs, grants from other charities and whatever other sources of revenue they received they took as direct profit. As not a single cent of it appears in their books and the $600,000 donation they just made doesn't include it. Now that their excuse of "Look the money from our fundraiser is still here" is being questioned, they're quickly responding by donating it in hopes people forget about all the missing money.

[@erinsanders4645]

Thanks for the $600k donation from you and your team, Muta!

[@KataisTrash]

Oh, so all of a sudden they were able to do in a month what they couldn't do in a decade and find a proper place to put the money? And that only happened after everyone took a closer look at them? What a coincidence!!

[@evolutia1]

Also if he was researching charities for 10 years, where is all that data? That would be very helpful to see.

[@KataisTrash]

@@evolutia1 he wasn't researching anything. It's just another lie to try and save his neck - he's a scammer, and clearly, a good chunk of his family is too.

[@futur3ndings651]

Something I've not seen many or anyone talking about is the way in which the money was donated. Jirard has been on record with muta and carl stating in the ten plus years they've been fundraising for charity they've not found one who could or was willing to accept their donations in how the money would be used. Yet here we are today with one of the original charities fully accepting these funds in the way they were wanting. Why wasn't this done years or even a couple of years ago when he found out about the money if we're to believe that? I'm sure other charities they spoke about would be able to do the exact same as well. Something that took ten years realistically once backlash happened took barely a week to get done. That to me shows or rather leads to the belief they had no desire to give away the money with how simple the process actually was to expedite.

[@jgwinnel]

At this point, Open Hand should be folded. I can't imagine people will donate to their charity after this coverage.

[@agustin47]

Happy to hear those news. It is rough to see so much anger accumulated everywhere, but it did lead into something that will help people’s lives, so I appreciate the efforts to uncover the truth.

[@harubutjojo]

For someone called the Completionist, it sure did take him a long ass time to complete a donation.

[@ashurad_fox5991]

He's no speedrunner lol, probably needed a guide for the bad ending. Maybe they could take the strategy for other "real" Charities.

[@twig5543]

I really appreciate the breakdowns you do of various issues. Your video style is very easy to follow and I probably wouldn't have understood half of this whole saga without that. Thanks.

[@rhysgriffiths3894]

This doesn't absolve anyone who knew that the money was just sitting there all those years. Heads need to roll for this.

[@TheSaltAlchemist]

I can't believe Muta had to make sure a charity was being a charity, yet here we are.

[@EighmyLupin]

Unfortunately, charities are often scams, that exist to skim money off of. It's why you should never buy the breast cancer pink items or anything that gets a pride flag slapped on it during June, because not a penny actually goes to helping breast cancer or the lgbt community

[@mdb45424]

Its not hard to fake look at thr Katerina fund raisers

[@grizzlywhisker]

I would say just about every single charity in existence is some form of scam.

[@holyheretic3185]

I'm not shocked that it happened but I am shocked who it happened too!

[@orangejjay]

@@grizzlywhisker This is a dumb take. There's PLENTY of good charities out there and good meaning people as well. Don't make blanket statements like, especially ones as wildly wrong as what you've just said.

[@RichSmithson]

You have to wonder if Completionist is the only streamer/influencer who has done this with charity funds donated to them?

[@kingkiller14000]

It would be hard for many others to do this. The majority of streamers/influencers doing charity events do it through direct donation links or third parties that handle it for you. Many of them would have to check on things like the completionist where they donate subs or personal donos, but 99% of the time those are covered by the streamer later posting a screenshot/pic of "Hey heres my contribution." The completionist is a unique situation because all his charity events for a foundation his famil directly owned. They were essentially paid to him directly.

[@robertluong3024]

Kim K uses charities to hide taxes. Lots of celebs do. Rich people are going to destroys charities soon.

[@MasterLPG]

@@kingkiller14000 We also don't know what the full amount of donations is supposed to be because they withheld funds from the golf event on their tax document. The donation they did make wasn't even the full amount they said was in the Open Hands' bank account. This absolutely still needs to be investigated.

[@Chasmodius]

It made me want to check up on the IRS filings of Child's Play, since it's such a long-standing gamer charity. As far as the tax filings go, it looks a WHOLE lot more legit than Open Hand does: much more specific breakdowns on staff pay, costs, and outgoing donations. That's to say nothing of the, you know, actual pictures of actual toys and games going to actual children at actual hospitals. Without an accountant going through all of their books, it's impossible to say for _certain_ that there's no fraud there, but it passes the smell test.

[@grizzlywhisker]

There are tons of KZbinr scams out there, but most exist in the investing/crypto world. I'm sure it's been done before.

[@thomasbinder396]

No matter what this family does and under what name they act, they do not deserve to be given a single cent by anybody. Thank you so much for finding this!

[@BodieB]

This story was really personal to me...I watched my Grandfather wither away with Dementia and Alzheimer's... we were the primary caregivers because we didn't want to put him into a home... he would wake up scared in the middle of the night and not know where he is... he forgot(many times) who me and my sister were. He thought we were my father and aunt. It got so bad because he also had very bad Asthma and was on oxygen but would forget that he had to breathe through his nose and not his mouth... he didn't realize he would get less oxygen that way. So to see this story really got under my skin. Thank you and Karl for putting in the work on this. Immense amount of respect to you guys

[@pizzanopastano9159]

When I saw this title: “THANK GOD JIRARD FINALLY USED HIS SINGULAR BRAIN CELL TO FULL CAPACITY!” But seriously, god, this whole situation has been frustrating! I’ll never see Jirard the same way again!

[@dragongrandmaster]

atleast he hasnt run and nothing shady was going on

[@supersardonic1179]

@@dragongrandmaster What makes you say that? There's still the Golf money, Twitch donations and funds raised from events like Indieland we haven't heard about.

[@pizzanopastano9159]

@@dragongrandmaster I mean, I guess, but that doesn’t mean just because he didn’t do that he needs to be praised or anything. He and his family still didn’t donate the money for almost a decade, so he still did something bad, just not as bad as what you said. But I do understand what you’re saying!

[@dragongrandmaster]

just happy he didnt went dark or all money is lost@@pizzanopastano9159

[@senorstacheman6894]

​@pizzanopastano9159 No man, them acting like this was a great act of charity, as well as, going with their original orginaztion after "searching further" for a decade???? No they donated because they got caught, 600,000 was the lowball number. They threw out 600,000 to an org they've been "wanting to" donate to .... for a decade.... They had full intentions of NOT donating the money.

[@XeonProductions]

That's great that something finally got donated, but those shady golf tournaments and other financial discrepancies still need to be investigated.

[@EthanReilly]

He finally "completed" the donation.

[@edwardlomeli5657]

Too bad he needs to finish the dlc of his 2023 charity donation

[@leonjames22]

This should have been in the thumbnail 😂

[@Chaossage]

It only took multiple weeks, multiples videos, multiple callouts. He gives it his completionist rating of, Avoid It.

[@empersian1234]

That we know of, there's the question what came from the golf tournaments

[@Natsocenis]

Looking past all the technckal garbage, this is simple - Did he say funds that were raised had been donated? Yes - Did he donate said funds(till now)? No - Did it take the internet outing him for him to donate the funds? Yes - Would he have donated the funds eventually had he not been outed? We'll never know - if he had not been outed would he have kept raising funds, whilst insisting it was being donated, whilst it was sitting in his coffers? Previous behaviour indicates, he would continue this behaviour. They are the facts, everything else is technical mumbo jumbo and/or lawyer speak. If you're ok with the above behaviour, then cool, if you're not that's also cool. The law can decide if anything illegal was done here, but its still dishonest and unscrupulous.

[@kamikazelemming1552]

Yours is the best response I've seen thus far. It's simple, concise, and gets the point across without falling into "Internet Rage." I'm definitely in the camp that's not okay with what Jirard did. Even if he is innocent, it doesn't change the fact that he lied to people for 10 years about where their money was going.

[@ghiffaribara2949]

This, if they said they hold the money from the start instead of saying it is donated and work with other orgs (which they didn't) this will never happen. Other technical stuff we leave it to professionals, those simple facts is what matters first

[@brettlawrence9015]

Well put you don’t need to be a lawyer or an accountant to know the above stinks and needs to be fully investigated.

[@atago-neesama296]

He was caught. That’s why he donated. He would happily not donate if he wasn’t under a spotlight

[@Lucifersfursona]

There is no need to correct a mistake no one knows about, especially if it wasn’t a mistake until it became known

[@ronaldball9389]

He was found out and still went on live stream afterwards still claiming he was sending money to all the causes. Didn’t donate straight after being called out for it. I bet they think they can smooth it all over and come back to trying to get donations.

[@evillecaston]

It's funny how Jirard said it would be suspicious if he just donated the money right after the interview...and that's exactly what he did. How oddly specific of him to mention...

[@NuStiuFrate]

Them having the 650k in the account all this time isn't as exonerating anymore considering how much they were stealing through the other means (gold tournament, bits and stuff). It seems very possible to have that much money in the account as a nice emergency/retirement fund and only use the unreported money. Plus they didn't add anything from 2023.

[@jacobmonks3722]

I'm happy the money was finally donated. Hopefully Jirard's organization acts with much more transparency and honesty from now on. They should probably still be audited, but if there's anything I don't expect the government to do, it's doing its job properly.

[@paulrasmussen8953]

It needs to shut down, it cannot be trusted

[@_-Lx-_]

About that....

[@tessiepinkman]

That site looked like one of those sites where you can pay for an article to be written about you, and then it's made to be high up on the Google hits so that it shows as soon as someone Googles your name/company/organisation. I don't know if I trust that they are a real paper, I think that was done just so people who Google this shit will see that as one of the top results.

[@MichaelJM]

It's a Press Release put out by the PR firms hired by Open Hand and AFTD. It's not a news article but it's also pretty standard for this sort of thing.

[@Mcaark]

@@MichaelJM Funny how scummy PR work is becoming "pretty standard."

[@strawb_short_cake]

I am really glad the money was donated after all. Not just for the benefit of those who will be helped by the research and caregiver support, but also for the sake of all of those who have made donations (through Indieland, etc). I know most people who donated weren't rich, but they still shared what they could to help others in need. And I'm glad that was not in vain, now. That being said - I find it incredibly ironic that the organization the OHF ended up donating to was one that they already knew for years (and whose name they actually used to collect donations). Weird how that organization wasn't good enough for almost 10 years, but now suddenly is worthy of their donations 🤔 Anyway, I do hope that the potentially unreported golf cup donations can be traced down as well and that the participants charitable gifts actually land where intendend - in dementia research/support, not in a specific family's pockets.

[@Aethelbeorn]

Audit needs to still go through this and the golf charity.

[@Shizzmoney74]

Thank you Karl and Mutahar

[@RedBerylFTW]

I've said it a few times but I'll say it again. Greg's legal threat was the warning we all should have taken. It looked bad in the moment, but in hindsight he was justifiably looking out for himself. Whether he knew about this or not is irrelevant. He knew Jirard well enough to know that shit would hit the fan eventually.

[@TheAzureJahk]

I donated to charity:water as part of a GametoAid campaign. A year later I got an email with a map link and GPS co-ordinates to the exact water well my money went towards, cost breakdowns and a list of donor amounts totaling the cost. There were pictures of the Kapiko/Mtukula Village and the pump. This is what a charity soliticing puiblic donations should be doing. If your doing annual fundraising events I would damn well expect 2020s donations to be out the door to projects asap and brought as testimonials to 2021s event to show the good done so far. What I don't expect is for it to sit there depreciating or evaporting to operating costs.

[@lisagoble1148]

Now look into who is on the board or running AFTD to make sure the money is not being laundered

[@lanceuppercut6168]

That's one thing to look into, but also there is still no actual proof the money was ever sent. After all, a web article is written by a person, a person that can be bribed to write what they want. It's all still very sus, and more investigation should go into it.

[@7milesdavis]

Exactly.

[@B-Diddy-6]

Something to note about the Comstocks, it says that Open Hand will be the ones who "ensure 500 or more such grants will go towards supporting caregiver respite, etc" it's unique that Open Hand will still be able to decide when and where that $250k will go (the $250k is also the largest chunk of that donation). Still doesn't seem like it's all on the up and up.

[@JustinLeeper]

Man, that microphone sure draws focus. Literally.

[@ShamanJeeves]

I'm glad to hear the money has finally gone where it was intended to. Scary to think how things might have gone, if you and Karl hadn't brought this to light. Thanks to both of you for being vigilant, upstanding individuals.

[@ChaoticMeatballTV]

Wish Jirard had just donated the money as it came in instead of dropping a bomb over his whole career. However taxes are still BS, especially for creators like yourself Muta who lives in Canada yet still has to file in the United States due to KZbin being based here. I just hate that self-employed people have an additional 15.3% tax on everything made sheerly to keep people in lower classes down. It's just theft, plain and simple.

[@terriplays1726]

Let me be a cynic: Has it been paid over, or have they just pledged it?

[@purplemist7]

At this point, we should see actual records showing the money has been donated, other than this article.

[@zaco-km3su]

Good point.

[@Zzucc]

There's still some strange things. What happened to the raised money in other events they've held, and did he actually have the money or did it take so long because they had to scramble and use personal funds to reach the potentially missing 600k

[@azurai3934]

Pretty much what I was thinking, there’s still 50k from Indieland, the golf money, and all the indirect money from Twitch. They still need to be audited.

[@Prince-Darwin]

Im both surprised and not that they donated. They could only sit on it for so long, but to see them actually do something for once is wild

[@RunescapNerdHar1]

As someone who spent 7 years caring for my mother with dementia, thank you so much for drawing attention to this and forcing them to actually donate the money. It’s been hard to stomach this whole situation.

[@pressfinchat]

Now I’m wondering if the reason why they took so long is because the money was not actually lying dormant in a bank account, but tied up in other endeavors and they had to quickly pull it out from many places to make up for the final 600k.

[@BigMacOrange]

Obviously