The Controller That Keeps Giving! FlyDigi Apex 4 Review Pt. 2

Following up on yesterday's review which is linked below.
FlyDigi Apex 4 Controller Review
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0:00 Intro
1:02 Disclaimer
1:13 Price
2:13 Sticks
3:37 Kontrol Freeks
4:35 ReWASD
6:44 Jack and Screen
8:20 Adaptive Triggers
11:45 Diagnostic
12:04 Bad Gyro
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[@CrashD6]

Constructive criticism here. The other day I watched a review from another channel, showing all the features of this controller, with all the important stuff like polling rate, adaptive triggers, analog sticks, buttons, all sorts of compatibility tests, and basically everything you covered in 2 videos + a teardown, with around half the size of your first video. You are one of my favorite controller reviewers out there, you are probably one of the pioneers when it comes to reviewing polling rates, hall effect sticks and mechanical face buttons, which is exactly what I was looking for. I'm not asking for your videos to be shorter, just to be complete. Your videos are very entertaining, and the other review I saw was very serious, technical, and to the point, shorter and more complete. A "late-night hotfix patch" is good to correct some mistakes, but it shouldn't be needed in the first place. Most people might not even see the 2nd video or even care about it, they already saw one that they presume was complete, instead of watching the base video and wait for the Expansion Pack DLC season 2 video. (I know that it's better for the channel to have more videos, more views, more likes, more comments and more engagement overall, but it ultimately hurts the quality of the reviews and the perceived quality from the viewers.) I hope I have not offended you in any manner, as I am a great connoisseur of your content. Even if I'm not interested in the product, I watch for the entertainment you provide!

[@addison99996]

Thank you for the update. I like the fact the screen animation can be edited, get something mellow, and it might reduce distraction. It is a super slick piece of hardware. Seriously one to consider purchasing in future.

[@DaLions_Den]

SOMEONE HAS DONE IT! Hall effects and a 1000 hz polling rate. Now PlayStation and xbox have no excuses if they want to advertise a "pro controller". I would get an elite again if they made these additions.The Elite Series 2 still has the best back paddles and I don't have the balls to buy a controller with a back button setup up like this because it just doesn't make sense. Almost got the scuff envision because I feel the sax buttons could make up for not having a designated button for each finger on the back but I knew Hall Effects and 1000 hz polling rate was around the corner. I've put 3,000+ hours into a stock grey camo duel sense and am just now getting stick drift and it feels like I'm getting double inputs sometimes on the x button. My problem with the edge is that if my joystick and buttons wear out at the same time, replacing the joystick means nothing to me. Man, thanks for making videos like this. I highly doubt the companies that make controllers would be making steps like this if it weren't for you specifically and the community as a whole corroborating everything you say.

[@berrymckockiner5883]

I always comment this but thanks for making these follow up videos, we really appreciate them

[@7jers3y22]

Thanks for keeping us updated. I'm so tired of looking for the perfect controller. I just wish Xbox would make a decent official controller.

[@REJR90]

Thrustmasters are great

[@JackLeftTown427]

My elite series 2 has been perfect so far, knock on wood.

[@eess3480]

​@JackLeftTown427 Mine has been perfect as well.

[@thulodari6816]

​@@REJR90 they're great while they actually work

[@REJR90]

@@thulodari6816 mine has slight glitches but most mostly

[@xenor9262]

Great addon, thanks, I'll have to try the adaptive trigger thing. I think it's worth mentioning that while reWASD doesn't allow to configure back buttons to anything, the flydigi app allows to remap any button to any xinput, keyboard or mouse button - it took me a while to notice that I can just press anything on my keyboard and it gets set up properly. Only limitation that I found was that macros are limited to xinput, keyboard and mouse can be only done with one to one mapping.

[@haxx1707]

Nice follow up looking forward to the longevity update. This is my first time having adaptive triggers so I am worried about it's durability It has been great so far 2 weeks in I just hope it lasts

[@ACCESS_DENIIED]

Just an FYI regarding the trigger stop inconvenience: The flydigi app profiles you setup are stored onto the onboard memory. After this you can close the app completely and then while holding the "Select/Back" button, press either A, B, X or Y to switch to any of the 4 profiles quickly. I do this A LOT haha Select+A is my general use with normal triggers. Select+B is my racing profile. Select+X is my shooter profile. And Select+Y is my trigger stop profile. So I tend to just use the shortcut to hotswap profiles that I've already created. Much easier.

[@SAVAGEwarzone]

Would you say the trigger stops are good this is my decision factor for it as I want it to be fast and responsive for call of duty ranked style play

[@ACCESS_DENIIED]

@@SAVAGEwarzone good is subjective. In my opinion, yes, absolutely. I've used hardware stops before so I know what the difference feels like and was also curious about this prior to purchasing it. They do a very good job at emulating real trigger stops and unless you're incredibly heavy handed, it's unlikely you'll regularly use the strength required to push passed the resistance point for this to be a concern. I've only done this once and it was because I thought I was on my shooter profile and went full squeeze on the right trigger. I noticed IMMEDIATELY that something wasn't right and quickly realized: wrong profile. As a test, I've just tried 'accidentally' pushing the trigger locks multiple times. Unless you have forearm endurance for dayyyys then you'll be getting fatigued incredibly fast while attempting to play the game while pushing passed the resistance trigger locks so, I hope that information helps. My personal opinion: They're fantastic alternatives to hardware stops due to the fact that they're multipurpose via adaptive triggers. I can use trigger locks for general browsing my PC with a gamepad and then enable adaptive triggers for games. The strength / resistance of the triggers are surprisingly strong. To the point where I actually want them (flydigi) to lower the lowest resistance value we have. I adore the vibration adaptive trigger mode on this and would prefer less resistance and more dynamic vibrations based on game audio.

[@SAVAGEwarzone]

@@ACCESS_DENIIED Thanks 🙏 for the quick reply and amazing response to my question very appreciated.

[@politicallyincorrect633]

Yep, the quick switch is nice. I had to enable the quick switch function in the app before it would let me change the profiles by hitting select + A, B, X, Y in case anyone is trying to do this and finds it isn't switching profiles.

[@ACCESS_DENIIED]

@@politicallyincorrect633 I didn't know this, nice catch! :)

[@raputin]

excellent video always the best out there controller captain.

[@jonathanleonard9507]

hi there! so im coming from a xbox series x wireless controller, which would be an upgrade for me? vader 3 pro or the apex 4? what im excited most for is the higher polling rate, not sure if ill feel a difference since i dont play compettively and only casual side scrollers or games thats top view. Also im excited for the mechanical buttons and hopefully better vibration motors. between the vader3pro and apex 4, are there vibration motors any different and their mechanical buttons? the vader 3 pro is half the price of an apex 4 in my country and im wondering which is more worth it to get since i wont be using most of the apex 4 features.

[@LeonidEr]

You can manually set any % cut out for adaptive trigger lock distance in software. Even 99%. You can set power for lock motors too, so it's will be rock stone click with short actuation point.

[@admanwhitmer]

Yeah he was upset about it not having trigger stops but they actually work really well

[@michaelmitchell1900]

So your saying I can get trigger locks on the apex 4 , mosty play fps games ,have Vader 3 pro and would like that 1000 pole rate and tension thumbstick , mostly for Cod and warzone but having the adaptive triggers for non fps would be great too

[@admanwhitmer]

@@michaelmitchell1900 absolutely you can

[@michaelmitchell1900]

Thanks 👍, just the response I was looking for 🤘

[@admanwhitmer]

@@michaelmitchell1900 also the “vibration” mode makes the adaptive triggers work in EVERY game. It’s awesome

[@hysteriagaming6294]

For the Vader 3, can you map keyboard shortcuts to it? I haven't been able find any info on it. I'm trying to decide between the Vader 3 and the g7 se.

[@maxburmab7962]

Does differrnt thumbstick resistance feel consistent from side to side? Because I saw that the mechanism for that is kinda asymmetrical.

[@theOuTLaW365]

Is this controller thick compared to say a standard Xbox series S controller? I recently returned the Manba one controller bc of hand fatigue being do to the controllers thickness.

[@CookieMonster-we1in]

How can you turn off the display? And how can you map the home key to xbox game bar? I was able to do it before but my home button doesnt open gamebar anymore

[@TriszSZN]

I have a question, I see in all the reviews the input latency being praised of this controller, but on the gamepadle website, the cable latency for the flydigi apex4 appears to be twice as high as the dual sense. Is this correct? What are your thoughts on that? Because when I see youtubers testing with xinput, the flydigi apex4 scores better every time?

[@TackzdIRL]

Simply another put it possibly a banger of a video.

[@Zyanide09]

The Skull & Co grips are GOAT. You should really give them a try. Im using them on almost all of my controllers.

[@XxRUNTY]

They’re awesome on these flydigi controllers for sure

[@ZodiacEntertainment2]

Which thumb grip set do you prefer on the Flydigi controllers?

[@XxRUNTY]

@@ZodiacEntertainment2 I prefer lowest profile concave ones.

[@Zyanide09]

@@ZodiacEntertainment2 Never had a Flydigi controller, but i use them on my XBox, PS4/PS5, Switch, PDP, 8BitDo and BigBig Won controllers

[@katanamaru1]

Yeah they are great! I did order some of the Gamesir caps to try out since I like their style of stick. I look forward to trying them too.

[@Chrish1981]

Control freaks sound like a dance team for pro controllers lol great vid!

[@carlitos05]

This will be my next controller, nice to know there is a pro controller at an affordable price. Ive spent close to $2000 on controllers cuz the eventual stick drifts

[@Nevrix123]

I wish they would add the option for a small vibration feedback at the end of a trigger stop pull. Would add some nice tactile feedback for the trigger stop

[@xshinratenseix6663]

For the adaptive triggers, do I need to adjust something ? It doesn’t work

[@TheNoNameOneManShow]

What’s the latency for console ? Is it pretty bad ?

[@Amp1tude]

whats the best gyro controller that can overclock to 1ms? can i get like a top 3 please

[@sfelix111]

Does the gamesir g7se work in Rewasd? This is the first time I’m hearing of the program

[@Cerealkiller824]

man I love this controller, been buying more and more I see here. But this controller feels so premium and the sticks smooth af

[@SLE3PR]

I really love the Apex 2. I bought it a couple of years ago - before I even saw your video on it actually - mostly for games like Everspace 2 and Elite Dangerous Odyssey - flight sims where you need a ton of extra buttons for the 6 degrees of motion etc. But recently, I rediscovered the controller because the Dualsense Edge has really spoiled me with it's back paddles and now I need them for everything. Helldivers 2 feels particularly nice on the Apex 2. I don't understand why they removed the extra shoulder buttons and the C & Z though. I get why the moving X Y B buttons didn't make it to future iterations - it's so niche, but the extra shoulder buttons especially are really useful and feel really good. I dunno, I can't see myself getting a new Apex when the 2 was ... well the Apex.

[@DEM0NJEDI]

Does the additional info bump it over the Vader 3 as your go to choice?

[@dstaron3162]

Good question.

[@NagiVin-og1nd]

Is it better than the Vader 3 pro now?

[@nickgreen1506]

Great review man! Have you heard of any news or gossip about Razer putting out a new controller?

[@nickgreen1506]

@GamerHeaven - What 3 things do you believe Razer needs to improve in order to break the top 5 of pro gaming controllers?

[@SCORP1ONF1RE]

You're my favorite KZbinr!

[@EzeKi3LGaming]

Sir this controller can support apple devices with ios 17 above?

[@cloudconnected7008]

thanks for the vid i bought the apex 4 on aliexpress für 90€. i like the controller so far. How can i change the lighning? I had 360 controller xbox one controller ps5 dual sense and a MS Elite 2 Controller

[@The12inch]

@gamerheaven, do you have the programe for the flydigi, im unable to download it

[@michaelgilbert973]

Gonna ask here too- Does anyone know if this controller can connect to MacOS via a wired/adapter connection for that 1000hz or at least 500hz polling rate?

[@equinox7189]

Glad I found your channel, just what I'm looking for. Autosubbed.

[@GeorgianPranks]

Hey Mcbruiser420, I have a favor to ask, could you include Pro FPS-esque parts in your reviews as well? Such as thumbsticks triggers and etc. are when it comes to FPS advantages and disadvantages.

[@MGee1]

Love your energy and reviews. I'm new to FlyDigi as we don't have them available in the UK an amazon, only via AliExpress... However I'm still very tempted by either the Vader 3 or Apex 4...I just cant decide if I'd rather have hall effect thumbs or the ability to tighten down my aim thumb? Am also considering the Gulikit KK3 or the older Vitrix Gambit, so any thoughts from your amazing Stallions or Stallionette followers would be hugle appreciated. Keep doing what you're doing Kevin...any thanks for all the updates recently too. cheers

[@GamerHeavenOfficial]

That means a lot to hear.

[@ltyarv8071]

I got both V3P a d kk3, get the Vader 3 pro, my godness such a mediocre controller the KK3 is and I'm being generous

[@armaanshahzad2939]

Is the screen 30 fps?

[@aaronbruh5325]

Can u use this on xbox series s and x

[@mysocratesnote8110]

Hi there, great video! We all appreciate the time it takes to make these for us. I am hoping that you have figured out how to map the back buttons or any other button on the controller using the key or multiple keys on the keyboard (rewasd). If so, could you please make a video on that? Thanks in advance.

[@Gidrah]

I feel like the Apex series is the flashy experimental feature side of the house and the Vader series is the less fluff more performance side.

[@davemutter8716]

Can someone please tell me if this controller will work wired on iOS iPad? Or will it be Bluetooth only?

[@HyugaJeremy]

So, for short, is Apex 4 better than Vader 3 Pro?

[@Numerical123]

I have the same Skull shirt. Good shirt

[@jasephase2k933]

Is it possible to purchase a adapter to work on ps5

[@glbernini0]

As soon as they come out with a black one its goin on the shopping list!

[@Mark-mu4pj]

Cheers dude great video

[@GamerHeavenOfficial]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@stefibs]

​@@GamerHeavenOfficial Hey man did you manage to use Adaptive triggers in COD mw3 ? I can see the controller as dual Sense in the in game settings but vibration and adaptive triggers do not work 😞

[@BurningDiablos]

Fantastic part 2 review (honestly, even part 1 was great)! Curious if I map everything on PC, will the controller remember the settings when I try to use it on the steam deck?

[@jamzqool]

i want to know the answer too

[@jamzqool]

i want to know the answer too

[@jamzqool]

i want to know the answer too

[@theconsolekiller7113]

Awesome follow up. Disappointing about there being no way to map keyboard buttons to the back paddles. I was ok with not being able to map multi key keyboard functions , which I wouldve used to save and load states on MAME, but I atleast wanted single keyboard keys to be able to save and load on the fly through Retroarch and other emulation set ups that have single hot keys for saving and loading. This is a huge thing for isolated save state practice on some super hard old games, to really put them together. Was hoping to do this wirelessly at my desk. Do you think there will ever be a way to do that on the controller? If not I will still keep the controller if its high quality, but may have to invest in Scuf's PC controller in the future, which has these features, plus multi key mapping, but unsure about the quality of that Dpad for old games. The Scuf doesnt have hall sticks unfortunately, or clicky face buttons and missing alot of other features, but older games just need a good d-pad for the most part. I can map turbo to individual buttons on some emulators. I will use it for new games too but the save state feature was huge for me. Can also just buy some more foot pedals for my desk area. I use foot pedals currently to save and load on the fly but on my main gaming set up.

[@efficcial]

Can I get a link for joysticks that would work with this controller

[@MeeTube29]

I love this controller, but i cannot find an option to launch the game from the flydigi app

[@tamingvader4775]

Hi, can this controller use on ps4??

[@BangSkeeet]

I wish for a way to turn off the screen, I just know it's adding latency (no matter how small). Other than that, this is the best controller in terms of performance and comfort. I didn't think the PS5 controller would be so thoroughly beaten. Feeling the trigger rumbling when speeding around in Rocket League is so gratifying. They are due to issue a firmware to improve the "circularity test" as well, which would perfect the controller IMO. My only regret is retiring the EasySMX X10, another phenomenal controller. Does anyone know if reWASD adds latency when mapping the controller to a keyboard?

[@ivanchu5205]

just upload a pure black image to replace the anime gif

[@stolatoskc]

anyone knows how to disable the gif screen? cant seem to find it in the software or controller settings

[@fakejin247]

iot the Eva 01 limited editon one yesterday and i can say for sure its by fare the best gaming controller you can but for what you get

[@user-nk3dn1re1f]

Work with ps5?

[@dcmorales]

Got this for $70 with the dock. Pretty sick price. Thanks for the review

[@trickz774]

hey, would you mind telling me where you got it from plz ? ;)

[@Groot-ut5cu]

@@trickz774 same

[@user-gl2lj4kd8x]

I am getting a pc, I really only play warzone/cod. What would be your top recommendation on a controller?

[@bipolaryx]

Why would you get a PC to play FPS with a controller? Best way to play keyboard and mouse.

[@jacks2249]

@@bipolaryx lol I know I am one exception to the rule but in my case I just use controllers, mouse would be nice to use but I find so archaic and uncomfortable to play with keyboard.

[@nofacenocase160]

Thx for the video but do you have a ps5 alternative?❤

[@afterbeforelife]

this controller with a ps5 layout is exactly what i want

[@nofacenocase160]

@@afterbeforelife same

[@surs]

Really sucks that a lot of games these days are banning the use of rewasd 😢

[@tommydannybruv]

So you can't turn the screen off but can only replace what's displayed? That sucks, I would prefer no light being emited from my controller if I can help it. I even tape the logo of my Xbox controller with black tape to prevent any light leaking.

[@the_maverick5436]

So I can't get the controller to connect in wired mode

[@bearabendroth1852]

Got mine a while back. I feel like the gif images are very slow and the frame limit is pretty lame too. I know the screen is small but I feel like for a few more dollars and programming they could have put more effort and quality into the screen. The way it stands now I agree that they could have just scrapped it.

[@ivana6141]

Would you recommend the apex 4 over the elite series 2 on PC?

[@Joolius.]

simply put, yes.

[@yeahboah307]

I would recommend everything ove the elite series 2

[@ivana6141]

@yeahboah307 I got the apex 4. Nearly perfect. Needs back paddles and the buttons are a bit small. Would have been nice for the extra face buttons like the vadar. Apart from that probably the best controller I've used.

[@Daylon_T]

I still don’t trust control freaks because of the original rubber thumb sticks so I use just rubber slip ons

[@Luis-rd9ln]

you can use dsx to use the triggers motors as trigger stoppers too

[@Luis-rd9ln]

or custom resistance for each trigger

[@REJR90]

How

[@renpu3441]

how does the D-pad on this controller for fighting game and general use?

[@SinjiKazama]

Good for Tekken and amazing for general use. I was used to the DS4 dpad so it took some time to adapt because it is easier to press diagonals (it has 8 individual switches for both the directions and diagonals).

[@renpu3441]

@@SinjiKazamawhich is greater between this and the xbox one d-pad?

[@marcinpwz125]

Busted eye syndrome 😂😂😂😂😂😂 man you have nearly killed me here 😂😂😂😂😂

[@pac-man-ooo5520]

Is this compatible with ps5

[@xshinratenseix6663]

i got the right game on steam but cant install the mod or start the game through the space app... only game is elden ring

[@lDeViiLzZ]

Can someone help me, i dont know if is possible to use the m buttons on dinput (android)

[@thetso99]

Got this one for only 89$. Deal of the year!

[@Overlooked1]

Its nice there best is yet to come imo they can tweek some things and it would be the goat not to say anything is better you should grab this over a replacement for your console especially if you can get it off temu for 100 usd

[@jerrodpettway-ds4xq]

I am buying this thanks

[@Shadowed_Earth]

They should've had the triggers exactly like they're but with the added mouse clicky tactile triggers as another feature with the analog switch. I really do hate the trigger with a passion

[@J0rdan912]

12:05 aaand mapping it to mouse with fight with mouse and aiming/gyro completely in many games on PC, not just aim assist.

[@alex_cookie33]

The Evangelion 01 edition looks sick. It's expensive though. Their anime collab editions just looks cool: Apex 2 Freedom Gundam Apex 2 Char's Zaku Vader 3 Pro Zoro Apex 3 One Piece Red Film

[@haxx1707]

apex 4 would look sick with a gundam collab heck it already looks the part just need a few tweaks on it

[@grimmaceshake]

I have the one piece red and I just ordered the eva version of this. Awesome collab choices for sure

[@rooneywayen]

7:17 Bad take, really bad take.

[@ananon5771]

Nice to see you mention how aim assist and gyro do not mix. You can make it work, but it would be like adding aim assist to mouse, it just doesn't make sense.

[@wintercame..itwasdisappoin3949]

Me: **Attentively watching and Interested** Video: @6:44 - "NO JACK OFF" Me: "Don't tell me what I can and can't do.." **Grabs Lotion**

[@uptownvapor]

TYTYTY!!!!!!

[@jatochgaatjeniksaan3307]

Not for ps5?

[@AiLife115]

wao thís controller so damn great, its big slap on the face of razer v2 pro, Hope flydigy support PS5 later

[@CohenTocher]

Cool

[@blorbb5398]

Is ReWASD still banned by Apex Legends' EasyCheat?

[@dalamar5502]

You are bad for my wallet. I always want to buy controllers after your videos LOL

[@SunnyDeLite]

As a PC player for well over 15 years I can tell you that reWASD is definitely not common among PC players, a small percentage uses it, and an even smaller percentage of those players use gyro. Never met a single person use reWASD outside of for keymapping on keyboards.

[@sleeppartyperson]

Some use it in games to get aim assist on mnk lol, was a big problem in apex but got patched eventually, I'm guessing it still works on some games

[@Irv-]

I wont buy from Flydigi until they bring back the M5/M6 bumper buttons like the Apex 2 had

[@waynetemplar2183]

How can watching a review about a controller be so damn entertaining?

[@YANASaysHi]

right like i'm never climbing out of this rabbit hole that is the Gamer Heaven

[@nickgreen1506]

What 3 things do you believe Razer needs to improve in order to break the top 5 of pro gaming controllers?

[@The12inch]

Really disappointed that it isn't Xbox compatibility, I hope they become compatible out of the box

[@Shadowed_Earth]

Ugh they're? Just need to use the usb dongle I beleive.

[@garrettbot143]

I understand the updates but it's kinda weird how you keep rushing out reviews, you used to be more indepth off the bat.

[@TheKotor2309]

1:29 -1000 social credits [frowny Pooh face]

[@ivana6141]

I can't find replacement thumbsticks anywhere for this controller

[@michaelmitchell1900]

AliExpress sells them

[@michaelmitchell1900]

AliExpress sells them

[@HSGG_]

battery life?

[@J0rdan912]

Supposed to be 1500 mah, which means about 15-20 hours depending on usage and features. In comparison, there is 850 mah battery in Vader 3 Pro that lasts about 8-10 hours in full gyro/rumble/impulse triggers mode.

[@jatochgaatjeniksaan3307]

I want this for my ps5

[@Banjomeister]

Does it work on ps5?

[@jatochgaatjeniksaan3307]

@@Banjomeister dont think so

[@iyeetsecurity922]

I've had two Flydigi controllers. The Vader and Vader2. I hate them passionately. The thumbsticks register as face buttons and they lose connection frequently. Customer service was awful. No matter how I worded it they didn't understand my problem. I even sent them a video. *Never again.*

[@madubtDFS]

Can't use rewasd. The COD gods don't allow it anymore... So had to delete it off my PC.

[@ThatGuyDrew7]

I'm really enjoying this controller and it's amazing for its price point. I love how unique it looks but I still prefer the Vader 3 pro. It looks really cool on display as well 🤣🤣