The CPU you HAVE to de lid | Intel 14900KS Full Review

The original i9 14900K was hot but oh my days the i9 14900KS is another level! We had to work really hard to even be able to get it to use its full all core boost clock!
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[@Edward135i]

watch as Tiny Tom Logan attempts to tame the surface of the sun.

[@kramnull8962]

Grab Pluto it's been deemed useless anyways. Should keep her cool until Intel releases its next flagship.

[@JR23Design]

Ironically putting it in the oven does cool it down a lot :D @OC3D glad we made a tool that you could use Tom!

[@OC3D]

tbh the oven was a little chilled holiday!

[@BelowAmbient]

just use a heatgun and oven mit

[@JR23Design]

@@BelowAmbient it does work well but opens up a lot of variables, everyone will have a different temperature, distance and spread. Plus it takes a relatively long time to warm up the tool. Perfectly valid if you have the feeling for it but less repeatable than just warming it up at a set temperature. You can also just turn it on and run prime for a while!

[@rankcolour8780]

Delidding and going direct die & watercooling on my 9900KS and 12900KS and my friends 14900KS rig I built for him honestly felt like a mandatory step to be able to hit the top clocks the those chips were able to. Absolutely not enough thermal headroom otherwise. Great vid Tom.

[@MichelBertrand]

Interesting. I fully agree with you that Intel should have an option to just provide these delidded straight out of the box with full warranty, instead of almost forcing people to delid it themselves and not honoring warranty.

[@Spinelli__]

I've seen quite a few people doing 6.0-6.2 all-core, e-cores disabled, with the 13900KS & 14900K using direct-die + a strong custom loop - something like a Hardware Labs GTX or, better yet, GTR with something like Phanteks T30 fans (GTR w/ T30s in push/pull is a perfect match for top-end performance). I'm therefore hoping for 6.2-6.4 all-core with the 14900KS w/ that setup.

[@thereddog223]

Happy to see you doing reviews

[@OC3D]

Appreciate that - Ive never stopped though. Just look at the channel...

[@yonson_racing]

I used the Rockit cool one to delid all of mine and it works fine if you heat the IHS up a little with a heat gun before you start. You don't have to reglue the IHS after the delid, you can just eyeball it and then install the contact frame which will hold it in place.

[@charlesnissom4007]

I am planning to use the Rockit cool delid, how long do you need to heat it up with a heat gun? Thanks

[@yonson_racing]

@@charlesnissom4007 It depends on the CPU, the ones with smaller dies like the 12100, 12400, 13600K etc... I didn't need to at all. The 13700K I just heated up the IHS for a minute or so until the IHS was around 175 - 200F then used the delid tool, once the IHS was broken loose I held the cpu carefully upside down with wire pliers and used the heat gun to heat the IHS until it fell off.

[@JayisKuhl]

Awesome video! I can recommend the EK direct die nucleus, been running great for me.

[@unitybeing777]

Good review Tom, hope u well and safe. I always try to make time to watch your videos, u legend. Much Love.

[@Slorgh]

Great video, I love it. Always feels so down to earth and transparent.

[@thedevo01]

TTL always rescues me whenever I have an issue with my build. How do you have so few subs??? You've been my guardian angel since early 2010s!

[@Mike-177]

So I really want to get this and upgrade my water lock to direct die. What I worry about is if you can expect the direct die setup to work without issue for a few years. 🤔 I don’t want to have to fiddle with it every few months to reset the die/cpu seating or have thermal paste issues over time. What are your thoughts about the longevity of a direct die setup.

[@shadowred1980]

Great job Tom, some hours and thought gone into this one. I best go and watch the intro to cannonball run now. :)

[@cppctek]

Btw unless you limit your pl1/pl2 the power will keep pulling and temps keep the same even on a freezer 3 420mm. I was able to set some limits and do some tweaking and still get 41k cinebench but drawing much less power and max temp 83c

[@sandiegoson]

Can you try a 420 or 560 rad set up? EKWB hook him up!!!

[@OC3D]

with a standard CPU - no. This one will spend the rest of its life without a hat on....

[@tilpesq]

To compete with AMD, Intel had to go really aggressive with these high end non HEDT parts. It's incredible how much heat they generate, wow. Good to know delidding can help a bit. Perhaps it should come with a better solder method from the factory? Thanks for another great video Tom, I really like your style of videos, less scripted, organic. Keep up the great work.

[@OC3D]

Appreciate that dude, thank you =D

[@ivana6141]

If i get the ks and use h150i aio and uae it for gaming will it perform a bit better than the K?

[@GeoffCooper]

Interesting about the copper IHS not working out - I'm planning to do this to a i9-14900KS in the near future so it'll be interesting to see... To be honest, as I am using a contact frame, I won't be bothering with re-glueing the lid because that will hold the lid in place just fine (as it has with the last two CPUs). Also means I won't need to mess about getting glue off if I decide to get that EK direct-die AIO which definitely does look interesting!!

[@LawrenceTimme]

Can you use the microwave or airfryer to heat up the delid tool rather than the oven?

[@matthew4107]

lmao funny

[@JaymondoGB]

Just shows Intel have reached the end of the road on this CPU design/package

[@rankcolour8780]

I doubt it, it's been like this since 9th gen and here we are 5 gens later.

[@martinfodor2848]

Two questions, is it the derbauer delid tool available somewhere? I couldn’t find it. Does the Rockitcool also a delid tool right? I want to install the EK Direct Die in my 14900KF. Thanks

[@vitinvaldez4927]

I use rockitcool.. works perfect

[@redslate]

Rocket kit is fine.

[@matomerah]

just try to check that copper IHS on both sides , sometimes you get some bending IHS side for just few millimeter

[@sportinglokerencvh]

what you think about a corsair H170i with 6 lianl li SL infinty's 140mm in push/pull will this AIO cool the intel 14900KS ?

[@OC3D]

Probably not if you test with Cine24

[@rivenlikemakar]

I'm getting a 14900k and a Dark Hero from ASUS. Do i HAVE to undervolt my CPU? Im getting the Lian Li Gallad 2 LCD AIO cooler, but I'm not finding any info on whether I have to undervolt my CPU or not. Id like to leave it alone if possible but thats why I'm asking. Thanks!

[@user-lq4ni6pr5l]

just do intel specs = (performance profile = 307A / 253W) - (extreme profile = 400A / 253W) intel has a set of power limit profiles (pl1 , pl2 ) for cpu to operate at. do that and you should be fine. and also asus has a junk enhancement profile = (512A / 4095W) that is insane go to bios and disable all enhancements and apply one of those profile by intel just google intel power profiles for 14900k. hope i helped.

[@marcuscasagrande7596]

What would you say about someone like me, that got a 14900K (non S). Will those rules apply too? Or am I good enough with q 360aio and a contact frame?

[@lawrenceonface]

I means KS at the bottom

[@BonusCrook]

Why do people delid if its not for direct die with liquid metal?

[@richardo9464]

Is this cpu good for 3d animation work?

[@a120068020]

Instead of undervolting, you can always set the boost power limits. Intel spec is 253w but you can go up to early 300w with a good CPU cooler.

[@kevin-jm3qb]

The OG of PC tech videos

[@mraltoid19]

Is this Intel's FX-9590 ?

[@kerotomas1]

It's worse. That was the 13900K then the KS the 14900K and now this. Also during the FX times everyday delid, big ass 360-420 AiOs and gimped out contact frames weren't a thing.

[@Fantasmamuerto]

Hahahahaa you make me laugh like an idiot in my workplace, btw i had the 8350 in those days with a h100i corsair water cooler.

[@kerotomas1]

@@Fantasmamuerto yeah i think back in those days the 240 h100i was the largest aio we could have had

[@Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster]

I use my 3950x in a sort of workstation build I need something that won't be at 100c all the time if I upgraded I think I would go with a 7950x instead 🤔. Plus you have an upgrade path where as a 14th gen has no upgrade path 🤔.

[@davemiller2327]

I put the radiator outside the house. Stock IHS+ liquid Metal. Temps are always fine.

[@mrburgermaster]

My 13700kf is hot enough as is. I can't imagine going up another 150ish watts in power consumption.

[@andrewbaines8760]

Should try the grizzly delid tool, it’s got to be the easiest one to use

[@OC3D]

That's the der8auer one.... EK was, Co designed by him too

[@einherz]

normally die itself and cap must be are one by diffusion silver to crystal and thin gold amalgama. and that stuff as cooler square must have so high quality polish for be in diffusion too, without anything else. if cpu so hot and go to throttling, so it must be create that's way. thin gold as contact and anticorrosion for diffusion everywhere and silver as best thermal conductor. till cpu still so hot.

[@recapturedcountry]

86 c for an aio 360 rad which is simply not enough to cool 400 watts. Really is not to bad under load. My ks come's in two more days. I'll post my numbers and temp on a high end custom loop with a mo-rad 420 pro which is basically 6 360 rad's or a car radiator for that matter and a EK-Quantum Velocity² direct die block.. I'm guessing 70's c under full load..

[@hbjigcc]

Msi is cooling 480w with a 240mm (28mm thick) out of a rtx 4090. So, even if you reduce the water temp by 5 degrees increasing rad surface or fan speed you aren't gonna benefit on cpu temps by a significant margin. If you want to improve that result you need a better WB since the power density of the die is the limit and you need to remove the heat more quickly. People forget that radiators dissipate heat from the water, not from the cpu.

[@caspian1358]

Will think about EK once they've paid their employees, contractors and their partners!

[@sBrink3r]

i broke my ek tool, the rockit cool delid took 4 seconds and was done.

[@seydaneen8970]

i'm gonna tame this chip with a $15 air cooler from amazon 😎

[@CoreGagaGames]

12:52 And I truly thought it will magically be OK on a Corsair AIO. I totally agree, it is not! EK delayed shipping the direct die for another month, so I just gave up and returned it. I could've gone direct die custom cooling, but requires mental and financial investment. I agree with you, you have to delid this thing because it is an oven. I have MSI Z790 Tomahawk Max with is a step below the Ace. It was crashing when I was overclocking!!!

[@supabass4003]

3.8ghz to go to reach the Netburst utopian dream of 10ghz.

[@taintedbulge]

Going to need the Iceman direct die or the supercool direct die. Supercool has the best performance out of all the direct die blocks.

[@kerotomas1]

Which pc case is that?

[@OC3D]

MSI Maestro

[@ColinDyckes]

It's an enthusiast's product. Why on earth would you not run custom loop?? I am, and my 14900KS arrives tomorrow and will be delidded with the EK/Der8auer tool and cooled with the EK Velocity2 DD conversion kit. Mainly gaming at 4K where clock speed is king, but video editing as well which is already amazing on my 5.8GHz 13900K and 4090 and I expect to be even better.

[@BALDYMANS123]

should get a iceman direct die cpu water block £70 ish

[@hellonearth6411]

When your water cooling liquid is bubbling from the heat, more than moulton lava.🤣

[@JimmeeAnimAll]

I love the honesty, thank You. If I may, if You could: Would You please answer or make video like - STRAIGHT HOW TO INTEL 14th GEN FOR THE ARTIST 2024 - if I am an artist that is committed to Intel CPU, and all my work processes are most likely multi threaded, what should I do, and what should I buy ? O_o Lets agree I don't want to void any warranty with deliding, I don't want to use nitrogen for cooling, and I don't want to pull 450W and have temps like 110' C and 70dB in fans - What should we do ?? Lets say one gets i9 14900K and some Arctic Liquid cooling AIO or other custom loop. To get our CPU temps in order so we don't bake our balls under the table , do we have like... 3 options ??? 1. Delid 2. Under volt 3. Wait for another Intel Gen ?? As an desperate 3D artist that used to buy Noctua cooler and never looked back - please help me - I'm stuck.

[@brennan2007]

How could this perform worse than the K? I don't see how that makes sense, because this IS just a very high quality K with better binning, right? If you tune the CPU to similar K model specs, it should easily be able to surpass the K with lower voltage and temps due to better silicon. At least that's what i would imagine. I think this doesn't quite tell the full story. You're essentially just paying for a guaranteed higher bin. Theres no reason you NEED to run at 6.2. Why not run at K specs, with 5.7 or even 5.8 all core if you can, and have a more efficient CPU.

[@OC3D]

Because when it gets hot - it throttles so the clock speeds drop. If the clocks speeds are consistently lower than the K then it performs worse. Simple.

[@Edward135i]

​@@OC3D I assume its faster when your using it normally and not benchmarking.

[@dashkataey1740]

If you're going to run it at default K specs, then why spend the extra money on the KS?

[@brennan2007]

@dashkataey1740 because I wanted a really good 14900k, but I bought 4 and they were all ass. For the extra $100 or whatever it's worth all the wasted time buying, waiting, and returning CPUs. If I could have just found somewhere selling high grade 14900k CPUs I would have just went that route. Plus, performance aside, I think is just a cool piece of tech, and the last of its kind.

[@brennan2007]

@OC3D what I'm saying is if you limit clock speeds, though. Put all core to 5.7, and maybe let the best 2 cores turbo up to 6.0. Just set it up similar to a 14900k, and give up on letting try and hit 6.2, while also undervolting/setting a lower manual VCORE. Wouldn't it actually perform better than a 14900k in that situation, given the chip is simple a better quality copy of the 14900k, just with higher boost potential?

[@NINEWALKING]

Again, it is a complex issue and answers it with one liner. That is not that simple, though. To get good cooling, one should make it as efficient as possible. You get that true the good contact, good thermal interface, having less layers of the contact interface material, good pressure, goid matching surfaces etc. etc. You can improve cooling right there a lot. But then, completely different category cones in place that people somehow forget. Your cooling system has to be able to handle the amount of the energy as well. You can't cool 400 Watt with the cooler that gets saturated by 300 Watt in long term load scenario. In games same CPU makes two times lower RMS heat and then cooler has reserve mass and cooling potential to ride the fast peaks over and survive. But main thing is it can handle the load. It really gets complex introducing working temperatures and pressure. We are working with low pressure low target heat cooling circuits. In other scenarios like in cars you get high pressure and over 100 degrees Celsius water temperature. Same radiator surface can cool different amount if heat there. Our water stays relatively cool compared to our CPU temperature. We have low pressure systems. So to absorb bigger amount of heat we need bigger radiators and more watter. If we are less efficient we need even bigger system. I do not need to delid my 14900K and I am getting good results. I my system with the stock speed settings I see maximum draw of 404 Watt. I can run 24 threads of Prime95 small FFT for ever and be in mid 80 degrees range. How come? Huge water cooling loop. Water capacity over 2 liters. Alphacool Monsta 480 and 240 both in push pull. 1/2 ID tubing and D5 at 4800 rpm. Huge EK X3 400 reservoir. EK blocks on 14900K and 4090. Cheap contact frame and Kryonaut Extreme. Very good mount. It does the job cooling two high power things because it can handle the amount of the heat. It would be more efficient with the delid and liquid metal but why would I do it? In gaming temperatures are great. It handles highest loads great. Why would I loose warranty or the resale value? So no you can't cool 400 Watt heat constant load with system meant to cool 300 Watt. Normal AIO's can't handle it. And yes you do not need to delid 14900KS if you have sufficient cooling capacity.

[@eliadbu]

at this point Intel should be selling this CPU delided, like what is the point of IHS on chip with such high thermal density ? and it's enthusiasts product so those who buy will manage to put deal with non normal CPU, not that those who buy it won't be able to delid it, but why lose the warranty ?

[@recapturedcountry]

Well Iv been running for a few day's now Iv got my 14900ks running at 6.100 all p-core's e-core's 4.4 ram 6400. she's a cooker. Best temp on full load with direct die liquid metal iceman block run package heat came in at 74 to 78 c. with the velocity block on the chip i was 76 to 82c. package power 332w. Iv had zero luck pushing past 6.1 all core overclock with any reliability. Running on Z690 Maximus Extreme Mobo i gained 200 mhz over 14900k.. So if you like to play around and have the free cash it's up to you. But it's basically the same chip as 14900k i was hoping id get a much better hand picked die. I don't think it's even that. My 14900k runs at 5.9 just great and at 67 c under full load. Which draws less power.. Now back to rust.

[@stevewatson6839]

Featuring a very hyper Thomas. Very fun; but how much coffee does it take to overclock a Thomas that much? 🤣🤣🤣!!! Not an Intel fan; but this has me tempted for the bonkers and the lulz! Very revved up to see this new rig too, matey. Fingers crossed all goes well and it happens sooner rather than later, but we can wait. 😁

[@OC3D]

SL600 case - they dont even sell it now but its one of those jobs I need to finish off....

[@marcuscasagrande7596]

You talk like you were into a military reunion talking about the effects of an incoming huge meteor about to hit the ocean

[@VerticalTaco88]

I can cool that with my Mora 420 easily

[@thereddog223]

Should just get a 14700k if you wanna fit and forget

[@frankd.b.9233]

The 14900 k/ks is not worthy if you have to spend a lot of money to cool it, and I don't understand why they actually put the ihs on these types of products, it should be an option to make it cheaper

[@stefensmith9522]

$700 cpu that can hit 6.2 on 2 of the 32 cores except it gets so hot it has to throttle down to keep from damaging itself 😂 what a waste

[@user-lq4ni6pr5l]

it's a better bin cpu than k. besides with in intel specs (performance profile = 307A / 253W) or (extreme profile = 400A / 320W) you can run this with 360mm aio but you go banana with it remove all power limmit , increase curant that is your problame because intel allows to modify the cpu the way you like if you like gaming oc p-cores = 6.0ghz or more and lower e-cores = 3.0ghz or more you will be fine you can't jus run all cores loaded at it's max frequancy while no power limit but if someon says i need all the power the cpu offers because you have water cooling go for it , intel allows it and amd doesn't.

[@UmarAbid]

Going to skip this then might buy older cpu then

[@user-qj7ot8gr2d]

He beat framechasers lol

[@GD2X]

I think you're being a bit sensational. Many, including myself, have tamed this with a 360 AIO, hitting 75c max on Cinebench. At stock granted, but I am still not sure why you are being so dramatic about it

[@imakewafflez]

you can tell the intel rep is on his excel spreadsheet right now removing tom from the next batch of review samples. xD

[@OC3D]

What rep? if its rocket cool - I bought them

[@imakewafflez]

@@OC3D haha I’m just saying youre speaking hard truths, I work in the retail side of it and I can tell you I’ve had some difficult converstions with customers who want i9’s but have no idea what theyre signing up for. Intel needs to fix the temperature issues before the next i9.

[@LawrenceTimme]

Ding

[@EddDoubleDD]

what's the point of releasing a cpu that even extreme solutions can't tame rendering it no better than it's cheaper little brother

[@BonusCrook]

the 14900K and 14900KS are kinda pointless since the 14700K is so good

[@tommypearson9260]

A 420 rad Contact frame and Thermal Grizzley kryonaut 250c paste you'll be able to tame it

[@emal2170]

Why is everyone but Intel coming up with solutions to using their hardware.

[@jrose-xp6tf]

One might even say...UN-retarded amounts of voltage...😉

[@bobbybob6597]

I delided my father's casket

[@tomcat2395]

what did you find inside ?

[@Anonymous-gh6xf]

​@@tomcat2395Intel inside ⓡ

[@tommypearson9260]

🤣🤣💀💀You're a Villain

[@thereddog223]

3, 12 plus hour days is not fun

[@ColdVenom159]

You do not have to delid the 14900ks. So many spreading mis information. It's alot easier to just say you suck at dialing in a cpu.

[@Kakaroti]

The CPU you HAVE to avoid.

[@andersonmcintosh7214]

So what you are saying is that this is a failed product. If direct die cooling is the only option for this CPU it is utterly ridiculous that they released this product. What is really crazy is a 7800x3d with an air cooler will still be better in most games

[@hellonearth6411]

When your computer becomes a oven to cook food in.😁

[@papasmurf5598]

I just ordered mine to go into a Z790 Apex white board. I just game and won't even run Cenebench. Don't care about that. Going to run it stock, Disableing the E Cores, with a 360mm radiator and hope for the best. Even if it runs in the 80s, thats ok for these chips. All these Tech heads are going to push you to buy all their gimmicks, telling you that you gotta have this type set up with this cooler to be safe. Blah Blah Blah.. Every single one of them are going to tell you the same line of BS. This chip was made for gaming and thats it. Multicore guys should stick to something else. Im running a 13900K right now, 4090, 8000 speed ram, Z790 Apex, 360mm in Push pull config. slapping in this 14900KS will be no problem. They just came out with the new BIOS also for 14th gen chips that will give us even more performance and power capabilities. BIOS 2002 I get my chip next week 3-20-24 and cant wait. This will be the end for the Z790 Boards, so I wanted to go out in style. 😊

[@Jeredien]

Overclocked 14900Ks slower than a 14700K in some benchmarks, I think he needs to learn how to actually build an enthusiast computer. Great you got it on a direct die setup, but it looks like this was setup very poorly in the bios. Just pure laziness for an enthusiast chip.

[@tompayne4945]

what a silly product.

[@TheCooperman666]

🤣😂 Well £700 is cheap for a Thermonuclear space heater 😂😂 For a cpu not so much

[@MGK195]

laughs in 7800X3D

[@TheDaswilhelm]

The CPU you shouldn't ever buy.

[@facegamefps6725]

Why not. Runs cool if you know what is up

[@KOT-ANGRY]

No, no, thanks! I bought 7600x (because 7700/x and 7900/x have +/- the same Gaming performance) and im very happy with it!!! I dont know, is it luck or all of them can do 5.15ghz @1.1v 😮, really, i set that manually at Bios and its perfectly stable in all games and programms, tested with prime95, with occt, all good! AND - overclocked my Gskill Flare X5 (Samsung chips) 6000 cl36-36-36-96 to 6400mhz (at stock voltage and changed some 2nd timings to 36-36-36-76-112) and it runs STABLE! CPUs infinity fabric stock 2000mhz, ram 6400mts and memory controller 3200mhz ❤ (2:1 balance keeped)! Temps in games ~55C with one tower Deepcool cooler at Silent vent profile in Bios! Perfect CPU together with rtx3090 gpu (downclocked, undervolted too, 1740mhz @0.775v) ❤! Its my 1st Ryzen, i always was Intel fanboy, but sorry Intel, i dont want Intel anymore, eat more and nothing special! Before Ryzen last Intel was i5 13500 (best INTEL CPU for buck), 4.5ghz all core @1.17V, super stable! Maybe will upgrade to 7700X, but i know that it will be worse than my 7600X...luck only one time 😂!

[@ColinDyckes]

Wrong. If you already have a custom loop Z790 system then it's an obvious choice. My 14900KS arrives tomorrow and the EK direct die conversion kit is sitting on my workbench 🙂

[@facegamefps6725]

@@ColinDyckes you will end up throwing you lga 1700 kit in garbage.

[@ColinDyckes]

@@facegamefps6725 No. I fully expect it to see me through the next two years running a very high overclock. Absolutely zero reason to consider anything else if you play everything at 4K HDR as I do!

[@2003dipfun]

Get Bykski direct die cpu block. Its 200% better than EK and has RGB🎉🎉🎉

[@razorgarf]

that's just really a ridiculous product

[@facegamefps6725]

Delid and use iceman or supercool is option best. Option 2 use copper and frame and it just work no glue but temps not as good as iceman. Also for people that use rocket tool is much better than EK trash will strip it. This channel needs to change name to amateur work oc. This is marketing sale for EK. Wow what a trash. My temps are 65 c 6.0 4.6 ….all other ones i did are low 70is running r23. Ek Aio DD is okey for Aio

[@OC3D]

No need to be offensive dudio. Ive been as transparent as I could be and will continue to try and work out what the problem is with the rocket cool stuff. I bought all of those parts myself because I was actually interested in trying something different. It just didnt work out in the time I had available.

[@facegamefps6725]

@@OC3D Not offensive at all! Just telling the truth really. EK might be your friend but their DD block lga 1700 is a garbage that xoc community has reviewed , their tool and oven deal is a joke. Their DD aio is okey but does not touch the Iceman DD or Supercool DD that cost 80 dollars vs marketing junk of 300+. I have delid over 30 13900k and 14900k and with all the testing in the world 6.0 4.8 is a joke if done right in a custom loop and you will never see 80c

[@OC3D]

Oven tool is the way IMHO

[@facegamefps6725]

@@OC3D I tested it. First revision straight to garbage( they came up with oven deal after) and second revision complete trash. EK has great radiators, pumps and fittings and nothing else. You want performance and low temps? Buy things I mentioned

[@expert8665]

​@OC3D Not going to lie this video was giving amateur vibes when it comes to the oc community. Glad you figured it out though 👍

[@deadghost1189]

all this guy did was talk for 19min..................................

[@Subaru_God]

Beautiful

[@edi18912]

Hi im building a new video editing PC, Primarily for Premier pro and after effects. Just want to get everyone's thoughts. If everything is compatible and makes sense. Also a couple questions Can the Asus motherboard support the 14th gen with a bios update? Im open to new case ideas but very hard to find 420mm radiator supported cases. CPU Intel Core i9-14900K 3.2 GHz 24-Core Processor CPU Cooler ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Motherboard Asus PRIME Z790-A WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard Memory Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith RGB Gaming 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 8 TB 3.5" 5400 RPM Internal Hard Drive Silicon Power US75 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive Silicon Power US75 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive Silicon Power US75 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive Video Card Zotac GAMING Trinity GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card Case Antec Performance 1 FT ATX Full Tower Case Power Supply Gigabyte UD1000GM 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply