Basically: Catamaran uses buoyancy like normal ship but has 2 hulls in the water. Hydrofoil uses lifting force from wings in the water to lift the hull out of the water after reaching certain speed
@evernewb20732 жыл бұрын
close: the hydrofoil is the system for lifting the craft out of the water, catamaran refers to designs with 2 main hulls. there is no reason that a boat can't be both designing a hydrofoil as a catamaran layout makes particular sense in videogames because physics is always going to be a lot more napkin-mathy and your tools for interacting with the game physics are a lot more limited making the stability of the layout rather helpful
@Xeno17982 жыл бұрын
@@evernewb2073 That last part is the specific one to focus on for the question. Catamaran's aren't hydrofoils. A hydrofoil can also be a catamaran given the foils are on the extended hulls
@evernewb20732 жыл бұрын
@@Xeno1798 I...um, yes? your' phrasing says you are providing a counterpoint in a nice clear matter of fact manner but what you are saying agrees entirely...am I missing an interaction with the exact phrasing in the video? I made the comment after it was finished so that sounds fairly plausible. I did leave a bit out: it looked like a lot of the "hydrofoils" in the video were simply...what's the boating term for it again...planeing? skimming right up on the surface of the water with only the bottom tip of the hull engaged (not a hydrofoil but similar design goals and methodology) usually with some system to maintain engagement cleanly like how racing boats form a vacuum under themselves or the control systems in some of the builds in the video
@evernewb20732 жыл бұрын
@@Xeno1798 oh! oh I think I get it: hydrofoil and catamaran aren't their own similar but unique things in and of themselves like, I dunno, hovercraft for example. like how a "jet" is really just a shorthand term for airplanes with a specific category of engine acting as their primary powerplant. aaand now I'm wondering if you can get away with calling something like a P-38 a catamaran, heh.
@maxcalabrese59622 жыл бұрын
@@evernewb2073 you're very right about it being napkin-mathy. What you seen this game is very unrealistic. In real life a hydrofoil will stop lifting as soon as it pops out of the water - when it reenters the water it has to overcome the resistance provided by the surface tension as well as "restarting" the laminar flow around the foil. My experience is just with kite foils but breaching usually means the board slamming down hard into the water and losing all your speed so its something you want to avoid. The exception here would be if the hull has enough lifting area for the boat to actually fly - an idea that was tested a few times with seaplanes but that turned out to be a horrible combo.
@apersunthathasaridiculousl18902 жыл бұрын
i didn’t know i was gonna see more hydrofoils today, but apparently these are gonna be the best ones
@Squidditch2 жыл бұрын
Is there any point seeing the other ones now?
@naofuminorikiya25272 жыл бұрын
@@Squidditch yes
@alexkang62752 жыл бұрын
@@Squidditch I mean yea we still want to see other ones
@Squidditch2 жыл бұрын
@@alexkang6275 fair enough
@lilfetus23492 жыл бұрын
The legend is back
@Nefrea2 жыл бұрын
Hydrofoil literally refers to the "wings" shape in the water. Think aerofoil. So a hydrofoil boat is just a craft that has "wings" that go beneath the surface.
@MurseMorris2 жыл бұрын
Key words beneath the surface 👌
@FuelDropforthewin2 жыл бұрын
When you think about it, Hydrofoils are basically a no drag glitch IRL.
@have_no_idea2 жыл бұрын
its not glitch, its exploit
@Kazuk.i2 жыл бұрын
Could you recreate the "Christmas Bullet Plane" also known as the "Cantilever Aero Bullet" in Trailmakers? Its a one - seated American Biplane used in WW2 (?)
@cirruscat12 жыл бұрын
@def not a rock We can hope he sees this!
@the_worst_youtuber_ever85832 жыл бұрын
Second time
@edwardgravit20722 жыл бұрын
A catamaran has two hulls, (trimaran three, etc.). A hydrofoil raises a hull out of the water. There are examples of foiling catamarans (see America's cup 2021), but a basic catamaran has the two hulls remaining in the water with a structure and usually a trampoline connecting them, whereas a foiling boat has a hull that is raised by foils. Hulls are buoyant whereas foils are almost always just aerodynamic.
@darklingnz80172 жыл бұрын
Lol couldnt have said it better myself. The new hydrofoiling Americas cup boats are insane to watch and are incredibly fast. Even in the water they move faster than the regular boats they used to use in the comp. Getting to thw point where tjere are loads of things that foil. Theres a vid of a dude that used a foiling board to recreate an aladdins magic carpet scene and it looks great.
@j.s.27442 жыл бұрын
I remember making a 6 powerscore hydrofoil-ish vehicle that can go 600km+. Was pretty proud of it since it was pretty big and used no glitches. Managed top 3 in the scoreboards, too.
@massimo56932 жыл бұрын
when did we ask?
@jadiel463l82 жыл бұрын
@@massimo5693 😂i think he is sad that his creation wasn't presented in this vid
@augustopudimtwo48722 жыл бұрын
Whats the name of It?
@j.s.27442 жыл бұрын
@@jadiel463l8 Not even close
@j.s.27442 жыл бұрын
@@augustopudimtwo4872 Never posted it since I didn't want anyone to replicate the design, lol. It doesn't quite work right anymore with the high seas update. Trying to rework it then I'll post it.
@69production602 жыл бұрын
I would say catamarans aren’t hydrofoils because the part that stays in the water and the part that stays out of the water stays the same when your moving and when your stoped
@tropicalvikingcreations2 жыл бұрын
Hydro foils don't need moving parts to count as a hydro foil, you can have the WI vs attached at a preset angle to do the same thing. However compared to one that does move it affects the efficiency towards the ends of the transition.
@69production602 жыл бұрын
@@tropicalvikingcreations I didt mean moving parts I meant when you have a boat with a hydrofoil it doesn’t pop out of the water till it gets at speed a catamaran’s body stays out of the water even when it’s stopped
@rudolf_box84402 жыл бұрын
Can we just respect how much Scrapman posts its insane
@theyeeterg2 жыл бұрын
2:23 and now we observe the wild hydrofoil as it moves east for warmer climates and greener pastures
@supersmiley55872 жыл бұрын
I think the difference is that a catamerans main body (the middle part) is always over the wa'er even at 0km/h but a hydrofoils body is ontop of da wa'er at 0km/h
@anteshell2 жыл бұрын
Hydrofoil "flies" in the water. Catamaran just floats on it like normal one bodied boats. The difference between a catamaran and normal boat is just the amount of floating bodies.
@supersmiley55872 жыл бұрын
@@vannancoull-barnes4997 I wo'l like a bo'o'o'wa'er wh'er i's da bo'o'o'wa'er?
@SilvrSavior2 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see you criticize Real Civil Engineers trailmaker speed creations
@Finat02 жыл бұрын
Actually Yeah Normally I Dont Think He Would Do Reaction Videos (I Dont Know That For Sure Since Im Not Him) But That Would Be Realy Cool
@RealCivilEngineerGaming2 жыл бұрын
Impossible, they're perfect... 🤣
@BLKBRDSR712 жыл бұрын
2:25 Hydrofoil Glider - Most impressive. 7:14 Hydrofoil MK 2 -Best looking 9:39 Hydrofoil Race Boat - How much speed do you need? YES!
@neogalford2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I made the MK 2(Two Sheds on Steam). Was not easy getting it to go that fast with just propellers. It also has an air brake that he didn't show.
@neogalford2 жыл бұрын
MK 5 is on the workshop. I've fixed the high speed dipping issue; mostly. Still committed to building the fastest non glitch, wing turning boat. I do have another one that uses glitches and has a faster turning method. I think I uploaded it as the Hydrofoil Mini.
@gokselaras9002 Жыл бұрын
I made a boat with 1 power core which is one underwater propeller with the top speed of 278 kmh and easily goes up to 250 kmh even in short distances. ( No glitches or bugs, full aerodynamics ) Edit: For the ones who wanna test the name of the boat is: 1 Prop 277-8 kmh boat
@MrMattkid2 жыл бұрын
Something to note in that definition is a hydrofoil is specifically a wing that reduces the drag on a boat by lifting it out of the water. So calling a boat itself a hydrofoil is actually the wrong use of the word. In summary: A boat is not a hydrofoil, it can have a hydrofoil on it to reduce it's drag. However it is still a boat not a hydrofoil.
@Tyfu39944 Жыл бұрын
7:13 Scrap missed the PERFECT opportunity for the Lego brick break sound effect
@UR_Mind2 жыл бұрын
I'd say most of those were hydroplanes, a boat skims across the water with a small part of its hull in contact with the water at any given time. A hydrofoil would have the hull contact the water, and it would require some structure below the water to lift it out. A catamaran is a twin hulled boat, which can fit into either category above.
@karstsn2 жыл бұрын
I miss this guy, i haven't watched him in 4 years.
@gamerraider26002 жыл бұрын
Yeah, can you recreate the "Christmas Bullet plane"👍
@THESLlCK2 жыл бұрын
6:05 is quite clearly a hydrofoil. Any boat that uses a flat surface to create lift to push itself mostly or entirely out of the water is a hydrofoil. Look up top fuel hydrofoil boat racing. Same design, but they make 10,000+ horsepower minimum to compete. Some hell of a sport.
@Trap_Bird2 жыл бұрын
I'd say thats its more of a ground effect vehicle
@THESLlCK2 жыл бұрын
@@Trap_Bird impossible. Ground effect's entire purpose is never touching the water.
@joshuaordonezordonez49982 жыл бұрын
Hey scrap man, josh here. I just wanted to tell you that I think you should make a glider using the new sail pieces! I was inspired by the gliding one
@Finat02 жыл бұрын
I THINK He Has Already Done That But Im Not Sure
@lostamold23612 жыл бұрын
Nice to see my Hydrofoil in your video, didn´t expect that :) Great video as always!
@staceysheets34822 жыл бұрын
I have an idea for a MM challenge there are 3 ways to do my Idea. 1 you all make planes with 1 pilot and 1 gunner and either make your own 1 person plane or use the same one person plane. 2 you all use the same 2 person plane and you make your own 1 person plane. 3 if you have 4 people you could all make 2 person planes and do a battle. The way you win is which ever team lives the longest and the way to win the first 2 is to shoot down the enemy 2 person plane in with the fastest time. 4th time posting this and if you think its a good idea can you please like this.
@randomvideosonmylaptop20752 жыл бұрын
Man, I always REALLY like watching Scrapman's videos they always make me laugh plus they make my day :D
@BloodRose-752 жыл бұрын
You know what’s funny? I unintentionally broke the sound barrier on my first day with a makeshift boat that used block collision as propulsion, buuuuuut…. It also was really hard to drive, opting for a more circular route 🤣😅
@1mariomaniac2 жыл бұрын
The 0-drag hydrofoil around objects just reminds me of F-Zero X lol
@Not_Dane_Heart2 жыл бұрын
A catamaran is a multihull boat, this means that it has more than one hull allowing it to lift it’s center out of the water. A foiling boat has wings on the bottom which push it out of the water at speed. This means that they only work once that speed is met while a catamaran always has less drag, so a catamaran is not a foiling boat. However, you can get a foiled catamaran which would have a very high top speed and would be the sort that would win races such as the fastnet.
@Not_Dane_Heart2 жыл бұрын
Hope this helps
@Codename_Shadow2 жыл бұрын
This channel is too underrated;-;
@Snarfyy2 жыл бұрын
Strange vehicle for you to check out - the soviet Ekranoplan. It’s a large boat that uses aerofoils to lift it completely out of the water, much like a hydrofoil but more extreme.
@robmonks89302 жыл бұрын
A catamaran is a type of aquatic vehicle. A hydrofoil is a feature of an aquatic vehicle. A racing catamaran can be equipped with hydrofoils, raising both pontoons out of the water.
@BubbyGamingOfficial Жыл бұрын
I miss that intro theme
@RobertCondonSunnyTurtle2 жыл бұрын
Hydrofoil is just any lifting surface under a boat. You might want to look at Australia II from 1982 America cup. There was some arguments there about hydrofoil state. But for sailing I think the you need have a lifting upwards force to be considered a hydrofoil. Would love to see a sailing hydrofoil build there are so many variation in hydrofoiling sailing I love it
@canidhal12342 жыл бұрын
I would love to see an imoca but I don't know how possible that is
@Ninjagofan23002 жыл бұрын
11:28 that crash was beyond the speed of light
@fun-damentals63542 жыл бұрын
try to build an ekranoplane , a russian water craft which used the ground effect to stay just above the water
@K41-g6p2 жыл бұрын
a hydrofoil is defined by its use of airfoils submerged in water to provide a minor amount of lift, enough to push everything but the wings themselves, and the underwater propellers, out of the water for minimum drag. a catamaran is defined by the ship possessing multiple hulls resting in the water, rather than a single hull, that together provide more stability. if a regular boat is a wide wheeled motorbike, then a catamaran is a car if that makes sense. something interesting is the idea of the ekranoplan, which as far as i am aware is the official name since the only other one i know of is 'ground effect vehicle'. this is basically what happened when you take a hydrofoil, and give it enough lift to bring the wings out of the water as well, since water resistance is affected by how much of the ship rests in the water, if the ship lifts out of the water completely, there is nothing for water to resist. the result is a 'too fat to fly properly' aircraft.
@RichardSJTol2 жыл бұрын
Pls make an episode on flying, boating and submarining on highseas with these creations and ones you made in past episodes it would be soooo cool
@nateolmsted222 жыл бұрын
I think most of these are more of a hydroplane than hydrofoil. A lot of that is just fighting game physics. But still cool. Also crazy seeing so many videos getting pumped out lol love it 🤘
@bboss17382 жыл бұрын
I think a catamaran has floating parts touching the water while a hydrofoil has non floatable hydro dynamic pieces lifting it
@goldfishwings2 жыл бұрын
I would define a catamaran as a boat that lifts the majority of the craft out of the water using buoyancy, where a hydrofoil lifts the boat out of the water using hydrodynamics.
@vVagabondd2 жыл бұрын
I think we all know we need a hydrofoil race.
@neuro_43852 жыл бұрын
That sail glider one was so cool
@jakobmanton68892 жыл бұрын
OMG I can't believe you found my hydrofoil glider!!! 😁😁😁😁😁
@fish4life7192 жыл бұрын
I am a old fan and he still make good content.
@Nefrea2 жыл бұрын
Also my vote for the next theme would be best trophy trucks or rock crawlers of course lol
@DrJiKentauriuzHero2 жыл бұрын
A hydrofoil is an underwater wing that lifts the boat's hull out of the water. A catamaran is a boat with 2 hulls.
@Snarfyy2 жыл бұрын
A catamaran has two boat hulls and works like a normal boat, a hydrofoil (like an aerofoil on a plane) is a wing that uses fluid dynamics to lift the hull(s) out of the water. A catamaran would not count as it wouldn’t have any hydrofoils and the hills would still be in the water
@DETHdressedInRED2 жыл бұрын
Man I love trailmakers. Such unique stuff. When are you guys gonna do another evolve challenge again?
@ariddreamlancer73352 жыл бұрын
Hi scrap man! I love your videos. A cool thing to make would the Lun-class ekranoplan. It’s a scrapped idea for a hydrofoil military vehicle, maybe it could be for your series where you make failed concepts in trailmakers and scrap mechanic?
@I_DontKnowWhatToPutHere2 жыл бұрын
Game exploits are sometimes subtle and sometimes it's game breaking. This 9:47 is the latter.
@ChodyRay2 жыл бұрын
You should check the "Jet suit" from Gravity Industries and maybe try making it in trail makers. It's a neat concept that is actually seeming viable in real life and I have a prototype of it and it seems like it could work
@thmsbkr32 жыл бұрын
Don't usually comment on your videos but I'm a relatively new subscriber. Just want to say that I enjoy your creations immensely! I am not sponsored by these people in anyway, but I just saw this game release and it seems up your alley and I'd like to see you play around with it. It's called Abriss and was just listed on Steam EA as of today. Anyway, looking forward to the next video!
@chamanhalder2 жыл бұрын
Been watching scrapman when he had 300k subscribers and now he's in course of getting to 1m really happy to see him growing
@hommerion28302 жыл бұрын
Could you PLEASE make Luna Rossa in trailmakers? (Its an Italian hydrofoil)
@hommerion28302 жыл бұрын
You could also make it jet powered if you want.
@noobymaster6232 жыл бұрын
raven one was my favourite
@rainbouncebecable50472 жыл бұрын
I am not an expert on boats, but last time I checked catamarans just have two hulls on the sides of the main body rather than normal boats having the one hull under the main body. So technically a regular catamaran would not be classified as a hydrofoil because they are not wings and they don't lift it out of the water any more that where it is at standstill sitting in the water
@okaberintaro24112 жыл бұрын
A cool plane to make is the Thunderscreech. A supersonic propeller aircraft which is named the loudest plane ever made.
@jacospies74182 жыл бұрын
Workshop creations are always good...
@Bigtug7372 жыл бұрын
Hydrofoil launcher the boat part will be able to detach from the hydrofoil and then the boat part will go in the air then you click a key and the thrusters on the back will turn on and wings will unfold from inside the boat. Like if you want him to do this idea 10 like btw. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@circuitgamer77592 жыл бұрын
Future request - these again, but on the High Seas map, to see how quickly things go wrong :)
@franciskurian93922 жыл бұрын
Scrapman, I got an idea. Make a beyblade and surround it with magnets facing outwards and use thrusters to rotate it. Use a swivel to cancel out the beys rotation and place another swivel on top of it and place some thrusters to use for changing directions (in instruments of destruction)
@thegamingentity84602 жыл бұрын
Finally workshop hunters is back
@tropicalvikingcreations2 жыл бұрын
The comments already did a decent job and Scrapman seems to get the idea so there was no need for me to comment but I wanted to anyway XD. But yeah basically catamaran is a multihull body while a hydrofoil is a hull being lifted out of the water by wing surfaces. Not all of those were hydrofoils as there was no lifting wing body but instead used a plane effect, which is very different an just makes it a speedboat.
@vale.44peru2 жыл бұрын
My guess with the difference between hydrofoil and catamaran, is that an hydofoil is a wing thus it produces the upward force needed to sustain the ship weight via lift, while a catamaran uses buoyancy and archimede’s principle, keep in mind that this is just an educated guess, im not an expert
@lemontrout94342 жыл бұрын
the catamaran at 6min is plaining rather than hydrofoiling basically the shape of the hull pushes the water underneath pushing the boat up meaning that you have less resistance and go faster more efficiently and fun fact if your hydrofoil comes out of the water (unintentionally) u will almost most certainly pitch pole (capsizing but forwards) edit look up the nacra 17 for a hydro foiling catamaran
@itsmemilo28732 жыл бұрын
More evolution pls
@radical0092 жыл бұрын
Can u make the Curtiss-Goupil Duck in trailmakers or scrap mechanic, would be cool and would fit in ur series of recreating failed designs
@dalainawillis5072 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the mars series to start
@kaiduda65632 жыл бұрын
1. Nice video 2. Can you make one about the nadeshda tupolew a3? That would be cool
@moroblizniak44572 жыл бұрын
You have recreate some V-tols of the past, i would like to see what V-tol hovers workshop has to offer :)
@LoPhatKao2 жыл бұрын
if your catamaran has wings that lift it out of the water to reduce drag, it is also a hydrofoil
@paritybit78302 жыл бұрын
For that rocket hydrofoil, I'm gonna say the backwards cockpit is totally on purpose. I'm betting the creator is a keyboard & mouse player who wants and expects W to be up and S to be down. At the least, the built-in flight control drives me crazy for that exact reason... I hate flying with keyboard and will grab the controller if I get into anything that uses cockpit flight control. Maybe I was blind, but I couldn't find anywhere to change the control scheme, and on keyboard I really expect W to pitch up and S to pitch down. Pull back to pitch up and push forward to pitch down feels natural on a controller, but on keyboard... up=down/down=up just doesn't work for me, not on arrow keys and not on WASD. When I can I'll always flip it. Similarly on controller I always have forward=look down/back=look up, regardless of whether it's a character or vehicle that I'm controlling in the game. ... also, it's just possible that the creator actually does use a controller, and has just been trained by too many RPG games that forward=down and back=up, which is the default orientation for basically all of them anymore, much to my annoyance. But I tend to keyboard & mouse whenever possible except when driving vehicles... when driving vehicles the analog controls are, IMO, really desirable.
@raimonlopez52552 жыл бұрын
The racing catamarans(proffessional) are actually hydrofoils
@der-gus2 жыл бұрын
Best of animals. Different animal creations
@Winkle_TV2 жыл бұрын
Could you recreate the "KugerpanzerRollzeug"?, aka the german balltank that had plans to be used on WWII but never did.
@sniperxlxslayer58012 жыл бұрын
Love your videos keep up the good work
@steveg4jan2 жыл бұрын
do a "best cars on the workshop" thing for next trailmakers vid
@skelybrinegaming84972 жыл бұрын
Day 29 of telling scrapman to play space engineers for a series
@brandonR.E2 жыл бұрын
Good video to wake up to... thankyouuuu scrappy Mann
@christyjohn63962 жыл бұрын
I actually learn about hydrofoils when I was 5 years old. You should a hydrofoil , can be a pretty god video😉
@hypermind152 жыл бұрын
Multiplayer hydrofoil battle / race
@ramizrugova68802 жыл бұрын
Hello Scrapman love your videos, keep up the good work
@Demon_Eradicator2 жыл бұрын
Can you try to break the sound Barrier in trailmakers while going in a circle
@griffinith2 жыл бұрын
He literally did that this video. Circling the carrier he was above the speed of sound.
@pawedabek14452 жыл бұрын
Scrap man you recreated some cool stuff from the history recently maybe try the kaspian sea monster
@TheOfficialMadCat2 жыл бұрын
at 2:35 that there will be good for trailmakers challengers with kan and that to see what one is the best and who's can go the longest out of the water or some thing but please make a mm video on that creation ill love to see it!
@tatsumiplays26252 жыл бұрын
At 3:00 the glider kind of seems like a flying fish to me they're fish that their tail moves extremely quickly and they launch up into the air and glide and as soon as they hit the water because of how they're how fast their tail is moving it basically launches them up again so that's what it basically seems to me as if they made a flying fish that a human could control and ride in
@codytate14692 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the best of helicopters
@scrap-godsuper-zo47402 жыл бұрын
10:08 on the lift is this scrap mechanic lol
@floppy89602 жыл бұрын
Hey scrapman, I think you would enjoy stormworks, it's an amazing game and has incredible potential to make awesome creations! Once again an amazing video!
@zachcressman56142 жыл бұрын
In order for it to be a hydrofoil it needs to have wings (airfoils) under the water to lift it up. If it is just skimming the top of the water it is a hydroplane, not a hydrofoil.
@realname46252 жыл бұрын
2:53 "I don't actually have roll, I have pitch and turning" Why don't you just say yaw? It's shorter and more accurate.
@JDG-ty2pw2 жыл бұрын
Lol that 2000 one was insane. Do u think u can review more UFO engine designed creations or try to make one. I made a ufo plane a while back and it’s weird how easy it controls.
@Epicgamer-ml9lt2 жыл бұрын
I like the no drag glitch one
@waynethehero33682 жыл бұрын
That hydrophone glider look like toothless from how to train your dragons 😂
@44burn12 жыл бұрын
Hydrofoil evolution! Sorry I just wanted to see more Evolution videos
@morganshifflett4994 Жыл бұрын
Although the UFO engine is a feature in the game but it used to be a glitch. So I guess you can still call it a glitch
@SneakyTogedemaru2 жыл бұрын
That 5-core one is cool )
@itzyaboycody44412 жыл бұрын
10:00 when he thinks its scrap mechanic but its actually trailmakers "if we put this thing on the lift"
@hello57192 жыл бұрын
hello, scrapman😁
@maxdenor14592 жыл бұрын
Scrapman i recomend you to try to play simple planes or kerbal space program. Those have literaly no limits for what you wanna build