The CRAZY Reason LOLA FALANA Was Banned By Johnny Carson!

[@mikomon309]

I ran into Ms. Falana back in 1999 after I moved to Vegas. It was in a local supermarket (Albertsons) at 11pm. I was in the canned goods isle. I noticed a woman and her back was to me. When she turned towards me, I knew her immediately. She's got the biggest eyes I've ever seen. Like in those old school paintings of big eyed kids. She seemed physically mobile and didn't really show any signs of the MS she has. She still looked good, so I thought about flirting with her. Just for the fun of it. Hey, it's Lola Falana, right? But there was something in those big eyes. Something that made me want to say something more respectful and not flirty. Back in the day, they called her the First Lady of Las Vegas. So, I told her, she'd ALWAYS be the first lady. She smiled and thanked me, and I went on my way. But those eyes.... WOW. Her presence was incredible.

[@jdsundstrom]

Thanks for sharing!

[@justinherbert9146]

She probably looked you over with her big eyes and clutched her purse even more closely to herself

[@mikomon309]

@@justinherbert9146 Very funny. Women tend to think I'm HOT by the way. Just sayin'....

[@justinherbert9146]

@@mikomon309 i would rather hear what your ex-women's say about you

[@andybilakshow260]

@@justinherbert9146 🤣

[@johnsjohnson448]

Ms. Falana was a true Entertainer, and a lovely Lady as well. She broke barriers, and in the process, became Iconic. Thank-You for sharing.

[@Hppy_Cmpr]

😶

[@philb.1502]

Lola Falana is a SUPER talent!! Sing, dance, and act!!! Tremendous beauty as well!!

[@blucation6060]

Thank you for covering her. She was something in her day!

[@jdsundstrom]

My pleasure!

[@rfwiggins5907]

They don't make women like Falana, Raquel Welch, Ann Margret.....anymore.

[@konnykontant]

@@rfwiggins5907 You aint lying!

[@Jhud72]

WOW I never knew this, I’m a child of the 70’s and remember Lola she was dynamic and very talented, she was on T.V. ALL the time in shows like “Love Boat” and “Fantasy Island” plus her legendary Vegas career, thanks for posting this.

[@jdsundstrom]

You are most welcome. Thanks for the comment!

[@sams568]

Man, when I was growing up there were five women who I thought were hotter than hell. Lola Falana, Tina Turner, Joey Heatherton, Tuesday Weld, and Raquel Welch. Now that I'm older, nothing has changed. In their prime, WOW!

[@scarbourgeoisie]

If I may, I would add Jacklyn Smith to that list.

[@sams568]

@@scarbourgeoisie top10 ten for sure

[@SilverGram]

Ann Margaret.

[@6699230]

Jill St John & Kim Novak

[@joetoe9947]

… Traci Lords!🔥…

[@josephdugan4797]

I just remember her as a great singer and a stunningly beautiful woman.

[@jhezzy]

Really appreciate how you deliver your commentary in such a kind, caring, and respectful manner.

[@jeanettereed4153]

Johnny Carson was a piece of work!. You should do a piece on his dark history. Always loved Lola Falana. Didn't have many female African Americans to look at on TV. Beautiful women. I will always remember her.

[@hue008x]

You are referring to his non relationship with his grand daughter.

[@jeffputman3504]

There's a great video on KZbin about Johnny Carson banning Rodney Dangerfield. Then, one time when Johnny was in New York, instead of being mean right back to Carson, Dangerfield was good to him. Carson changed his mind and had Dangerfield on his show many times. They became great friends.

[@bloqk16]

Many years ago when I was acquainted with a blackjack dealer in Las Vegas, she told me that when Carson did standup comedy at one of the major casinos she worked at, a PR side-gig such performers did was being a guest blackjack dealer for several minutes. Don Rickles was famous as a blackjack dealer to 'hit' when two face-cards were showing, which gave the players an automatic win unless that third card dealt was an Ace. Well the dealers were fine with the celebs doing the dealer gig as long as any tips offered to the celebs by the players were given to the casino dealers. Turns out when Carson did the guest dealer gig at blackjack, _he was pocketing the tips._

[@jamesdellaneve9005]

Johnny was a jerk. He really didn’t have friends outside of the show. He lived his retirement nearly alone.

[@lordcron]

As a kid of the 1970's I remember watching all the variety shows back then and she (Lola Falana) like Joey Heatherton were making their rounds and lighting up the stages! What I was impressed with was that she (Lola) was fluent in multiple languages! I seen her speaking French, Spanish and of course English. As it turns out she was famous in more than just America. Though times were starting to change, it was rare to see African Americans on television so needless to say she was a treat to watch in my family. We absolutely loved Lola! I'm so sad to hear about Dana Plato. She was such a loving and giving person. May she and her son rest in peace.

[@jaylenbrownfan2112]

Dana Plato died in 1999. RIP.

[@jefolson6989]

I watch Carson on Pluto on their dedicated channel. I remember seeing a lot of them. Johnny always had one strange guest, like the potato chip lady, or a farmer with a special pig. Slow segments that today's audience wouldn't sit still for. I believe those segments were carefully planned . The pace got slower and less interesting as America drifted off to sleep. Pluto also has an Ed Sullivan channel. That "shoe" had some seriously dumb acts, and in general was pretty corny and dull. It's remembered with far more reverence than it deserves. Having the beetles was the only claim to lasting fame. Sullivan himself was just bad. He introduced Rich Little as Little Richard! I liked Leno, and Ferguson, but late night as we knew it is gone.

[@orangeandslinky]

Oh my goodness I forgot about Joey Heatherton. She was selling mattresses on TV commercials. I was stoned out for her.

[@silverblack5475]

Ohhh , i loved Lola and Joey

[@kellyanne4207]

@@jaylenbrownfan2112 1999? Wow. Didnt realize it was so long ago. I remember her life took a sad turn after she was no longer in the limelight.

[@chickenwriter]

Saw Lola in Vietnam with the Bob Hope show in Long Bien in 1970. Nothing but cheers from all the guys.

[@Ma1nguy]

I was in Vietnam in 1968 and I never saw any Black sisters who were celebrities with all of us drafted young Black men who never saw a beautiful sister until we got back to the states.

[@jonburrows2684]

@@Ma1nguy that's because they didn't want y'all lusting after your "sisters" creating incest.

[@rosalynbethea6421]

Thank you for your service 💕🙏

[@Diana-gf9tk]

@DanCase Thanks a billion for your service ! You're greatly admired by me and many others ! Also love yr comment! 🌜✨☮️✨🌛🙂👍‼️

[@Diana-gf9tk]

@@Ma1nguy thanX so very much for your service ! You are greatly admired ..by me and so many others! Bless you and yours🌜✨☮️🌛🙂👍🙂👍‼️

[@antonioallen1763]

Ms. Falana was one of my several crushes I had. I had almost forgotten what a charming and magnificent woman to see she was. I have not heard anything of her for so long. I am glad she is remembered fondly. It would be wonderful if someone like Entertainment Tonight did and interview on her.

[@lewis20002000]

She is was a absolutely beautiful woman, along with Nichelle Nichols(recently passed) were my fantasies too.

[@sirjam327]

Thanks for this revelation. She was truly multi-talented. I was a fan of Lola Falana.

[@jdsundstrom]

You are most welcome. Thanks for the comment!

[@kirkhonore]

Lola was a combination of sultry smoothness and sass that you simply couldn't resist. She, as you pointed out, was everywhere and although my family made a lot of trips to Vegas when my relatives from New Orleans were in town, I was sadly too young to go to see most of her shows there. I still find women like Lola fascinating because there was both a strength and vulnerability in them that sometimes propelled their careers and sabotaged them from ever finding true happiness.

[@yeshuaischrist9951]

PROVOCATIVE FILTH. WITHOUT CHRIST YOU WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE THE ENEMY.

[@wendybutler1681]

We understand how hard women had to work to be respected and not manipulated by what I'll call 'the system'. And women of color had to work so much harder for the same basic respect. It took more than a great talent to get where Ms. Falana was.

[@jadezee6316]

nonsense....@@wendybutler1681

[@daskritterhaus5491]

yep. Whitney sadly an example. certain rap stars too.

[@jessearmstead2237]

I remember Lola Falana from my childhood but it was the men around me who lit up like light bulbs when her name was mentioned. Her name alone stood out and when you saw her , yeah she was mesmerizing. She exuded confidence and composure. I was young but I’ve always been a deep observer of people. Lola was very easy to look at, her beauty ran deep, all the way to the bone. Classic beauty , with the emphasis on class.

[@adriennerobinson1180]

Truth Indeed

[@ateam404]

Facts! I remember men on TV shows would mention her name (she didn’t appear) and the response was the same.

[@wendybutler1681]

I tell myself it was the classy that dad so admired. But I'm lying. It was the whole package, including her intelligence.

[@razor6552]

Yes, classy!

[@thebeatnumber]

Johnny was and will always be one of the best late night talk show hosts, but he had a reputation for being insecure and mean spirited sometimes.

[@Classic_Rock_Chick]

Not to mention racist.

[@thebeatnumber]

@@Classic_Rock_Chick Racist how?

[@Classic_Rock_Chick]

@@thebeatnumber Look up Johnny Carson’s black granddaughter and how he rejected her. This goes some years back.

[@angelmanfredy]

YOU ARE CORRECT, SIR!

[@thebeatnumber]

@@Classic_Rock_Chick Thanks, I looked it up. It was indeed a horrible and mean thing to do to a child. What made it worse is that there's no evidence he changed his attitude before he passed away.

[@donnagerhart1273]

As a kid, I remember always looking forward to seeing Lola perform on the Jerry Lewis Telethon. She was always one of my faves!

[@blessed7015]

I was totally in awe of her when I was young!

[@abchappell01]

Thank you for this video presentation. I have been a fan of Lola Falana ever since I was in fifth grade and she was appearing have a guest performer on the Bill Cosby show every Monday night. She’s always been a very very classy performer and I am still a fan of hers today.

[@rogerkirkpatrick5256]

On at least one occasion, Wayne Newton guest-hosted the Tonight Show. Instead of an opening monologue, Newton performed a showpiece musical number during which he demonstrated his talents on several different musical instruments, the last of which was a violin, or fiddle. After the audience's ovation died down, Newton looked at the violin and said, "This violin once belonged to Jack Benny's grandfather, who left it to Jack's father, who left it to Jack. Jack sold it to me for fifty bucks." Immediately from backstage strode an indignant Jack Benny who grabbed the violin from Newton, turned around and returned backstage without uttering a single word. It was a brilliant bit of comedy which I have never forgotten.

[@LynxStarAuto]

An era of comedy that will never be again sadly.

[@thomasandersen2938]

Great love to see a vidio of that

[@ronniepratt8710]

That's hilarious...

[@adriennerobinson1180]

Lol Oh wow.I Loved Jack Benny. RIH

[@gregman1715]

As A 70s Kid I Do Remember Her She Was All Over The Tv Back In The Good Old Day's Love And Miss Thoses Day's ✌️

[@cindychristian1700]

I remember hearing about this! He was actually sued by Wayne Newton! She and Wayne Newton were both big time in Vegas stars and friends as well! I miss seeing Lola Falana! She is a super great talent and a very beautiful woman!!

[@thequietrevolution3404]

This kind of stuff happens all the time. It doesn't matter if you're famous or not famous. People always get the preconceived notion that if you're friends with their enemy, you and that enemy are talking about them behind their back. When in reality, his/her name never comes up in conversation. Just another case of paranoia.

[@courtneynewton-john8862]

Dana Plato had such a sad life but at least Wayne was a little light in the darkness at one point. R.I.P. to her and her son 🙏

[@bdjordan7879]

I’m late but I sort of have a Lola story. My cousin Motown singer Tammi Terrell, Lola and my aunt grew up together. They all went to Germantown high. When Lola moved to New York, my aunt moved with her and never came home. My brother visiting New York, stops by to see our aunt, who is not home. Lola opens the door looking amazing and my poor brother nearly fainted. She asked him if he wanted to wait and he did of course, but he was afraid he’d make a fool of himself so he left, but has regretted it since. (You should see the smile on his face when he tells this story)

[@thomasralabate5645]

In the 70s, while studying dance in Vegas and visiting with my friend the late Winston Hemsley from Saturday Night Fever and Broadway fame, I met Lola at a backstage rehearsal for her Vegas act. Coaching her was choreographer Lester Wilson, and watching the rehearsal alongside me was Dionne Warwick. After class, Winston told me he had to stop by and say hello to some people. Quite a surprise for someone just starting in the business, and all were so gracious and welcoming.

[@kn-qz7by]

Love reading about such off-stage encounters with celebs!

[@jefolson6989]

Even Warwick? She has a reputation for being nasty.

[@WreckingKrew00]

I remember Lola Falana was a house hold name back in the 70's she was also on every tv show (guest starring) you could possibly think of. I remember VERY WELL when she was on the Tonight Show and Johnny asked her about working with Richard Burton on the movie "The Klansman" and she said "please I had my eye on O.J". You can see that Johnny didn't like that.

[@karenearle5507]

Ha ha, Johnny was funny FR 😂 But gee can you imagine if OJ have Lola the time of day 🙄🙄 whew lucky for her 👀

[@adriennerobinson1180]

Oh wow

[@WreckingKrew00]

@@adriennerobinson1180 Yes, Lola Falana made it very clear that she was NOT interested in Richard Burton but, was very anxious to "hook up" with O.J after the set. I kid you not.

[@adriennerobinson1180]

@Antonio Ortegas Oh wow,We are talking about O.J.Simpson correct?

[@WreckingKrew00]

@@adriennerobinson1180 Yes, "The O.J Simpson" former running back for the Buffalo Bills.

[@randyearles9286]

it was easy to pick on Wayne Newton but he was always a good sincere guy. He still performs even though his voice has given out.He loves his fans.

[@megsley]

"my close, personal friend: Mr. Wayne Newton."

[@marvelinebaker8205]

I remember Lola and wondered what happened to her. She was a phenomonemal talent often called Sammy Davis protégé She was a fantastic talented performer

[@crmbaker]

She was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis (MS), which is a crippling disease.

[@gianca60]

Italy here. Falana was successful and popular here cause she was into two big entertainment TV shows end of sixties early seventies. She sang (in Italian too) and danced. She brought a piece of Las Vegas in Italy. As a kid at the time I was, well, very impressed by her.

[@jenisemcintyre3839]

Thanks for sharing your early memories of Lola! 👍

[@kulusadira8658]

I played drums in Rocky Robert's band in Italy in the late 60s. Lola did a bunch of gigs with us back then.

[@gianca60]

@@kulusadira8658 wow! Thanks for the great memories from Italy. Seems to me Rocky and Lola made a movie appearance in Italy. Were you in it?

[@threeballedtomcat9380]

Lola Falana is still among us (I had to go look) and she and I share the same Month (Sept) and day(11th) birthday. She is 80 now, I am 66 . I remember her very well, she was a busy celebrity and was on all kinds of different shows all through the 1970s and early 1980s .Very talented lady , very smart. She was wrongfully banned by Carson, but that's the way it goes, I guess. I loved Johnny Carson, he was THE King of late night TV for 30 years or more, but I had heard that he could be toxic if he were rubbed the wrong way, his drinking to excess was part of it. Thanks for the upload , a lot of good info, things I never knew.

[@kathleenking47]

I think johnny has a black granddaughter I saw her ears as well Shes brown skinned with johnnys ears

[@aball7654]

What a coincidence my birthday is September 11th as well, Happy New Years

[@threeballedtomcat9380]

@@aball7654 And a Happier New Year to you ! Let's all hope that this year will be better for all....

[@aball7654]

@@threeballedtomcat9380 Most definitely, and thanks

[@threeballedtomcat9380]

@@terry5942 I'll go along with that, but it isn't right to blame her because she has a friend he didn't like....

[@noman6041]

Ah, yes the lovely and talented Miss Falana!! Always a fan of her. She had a very prominent TV ad in the 70's where she was dressed as a tigress advertising Faberge's 'Tigress' perfume. [Which can be found right here on KZbin.] Singer. Dancer. Actress. She could do it all. I remember reading somewhere that it was Lola who inspired a young Halle Berry to become an actress. Quite the prolific performer in her heyday and a TV appearance by Miss Falana was always a 'Front row' event. I believe she was a regular on Ken Berry's 'Wow' show. I happen to own copies of 'The Klansman' and 'Lady Cocoa' and there's some spaghetti western she was in [featured over on the western movie channel here on KZbin] i was never a big Wayne Newton fan either, [or of Carson] but he had a few hits i liked. His act of generosity toward Dana Plato was awesome. I think i remember that from when it happened. Anyway, another fine video from you Dave and i hope you enjoyed your holiday.

[@jdsundstrom]

Thanks for the comments and happy holidays to you as well!

[@mangoMango-ck3et]

Wayne Newton was a kind hearted man,,,having the understanding how hollywood the film industry children,,,are put through the grinder...and many cannot handle it..R.I.P..to the many young Stars..

[@karenharrison89]

I had the opportunity to see her show in the mid 1970s at the Cleveland Playhouse Theater. She was fantastic. Johnny Carson was a mean spirited person. He refused to have any connection to his grandchild because the baby was half black. When someone dislikes and/or mistreats a child that is pretty low.

[@keithshowell6688]

My childhood dancing trio was Lola Falana, Cyd Charisse' and Goldie Hawn on "Laugh-In". You could add Jackie Gleason's "June Taylor Dancers" too! Also, thanks Dave for reminding me of how crushed I was to learn of Dana Plato's death. I didn't watch Different Strokes much, but somehow her passing so young struck a nerve in me as it did with so many other celebs who have gone too soon. New Sub!

[@tubucoco]

yeah, man, I was a huge Dana Plato fan as a kid watching her on a Different Strokes with Todd and Gary. She was beautiful and super smart back then, so, to see her on the end like that really hurt me. She died in a damn run down trailer all by herself with no one around. Smh

[@patrickking3913]

Wow

[@antronfrazier9037]

She died right after being on the Howard Stern show. I heard the entire interview live. She was dead within 24 hrs

[@russelllangworthy8855]

Celebrities are no more important than anyone else.

[@susandejohnette6409]

I like Lola F & remember June T & it’s refreshing that someone else remembers the same shows & actresses.

[@reimourrpower9357]

Yes Afro-Cuban star Lola Falana was ALL that back in the 70's. I recall her hosting or appearing on numerous TV variety shows and exhibiting extraordinary talent and beauty and set a high bar back then. The fact that she got banned from Johnny Carson's show is news to me but with the beef Carson had with Wayne Newton, it makes sense. Salutes to Ms. Falana. My Father always said she was the only woman who could win his attention from my Mother, ha. Once on a telemarketing gig I apparently spoke to a woman whom claimed she was the sister of Lola Falana. I kept her on the line a bit longer just on the chance this was true.

[@tonisumblin2719]

I loved Lola Falana. She was so pretty and so talented.

[@douglaslucas7612]

Back then she was called sleazy and loose and people said she acted like a whore. She' was a head of her time!

[@jefolson6989]

On the tonight show she was talking about wanting to have children. The next guess was Pavarotti, who offered to be the father. He got away with it cuz of the accent!

[@empirical77]

Lola Falana’s father is Afro-Cuban, her mother is Black American. She was born in the US. Celia Cruz is an Afro-Cuban.

[@tonisumblin2719]

@@empirical77 there are millions of Afro Cubans, Afro Dominicans, the slave trade was all over the islands, into Brazil. Some fabulous talent came from them. Lola was gorgeous. And so talented. Willy Bobo was Afro Cuban. A very talented Musician as well. Mongo Santa Maria. So many gifted people.

[@carolynharmon7074]

Never knew about Carson's banned list. I remember Lola Falana who didn't love her back in the day, she was a Great entertainer and as you said she was everywhere.

[@desertwind306]

Back in 1978 we went with friends to a Wayne Newton show. We tipped the man seating us very, very generously to get a good seat. We were sat at a table with an awesome view of the stage. We ordered drinks, and were served before a man came to us and said we had to be moved. We were told that Lola Falana wanted the table. By then the room was full! We were moved way to the side of the room, and they stacked chairs so we could see the stage, just barely, and there was no table. We did not make a fuss but.... we never went to another one of his shows, and of course, we thought she was terrible to do that to us. We certainly did not get our huge tip back, and our entire night out was ruined. We could see her make her late grand entrance, gloating. Did she not consider what she had just done? Johnny may have known how she treats people.

[@dennishalford5763]

What a HORRIBLE person she must have been and Wayne Newton too if he knew about it! I think I would have demanded my money back, including my tip, and left.

[@frankcavaciuti5947]

Excellent story. Thank you for sharing

[@jimthomas1989]

Desertwind , this is the historic one Law for one man and one Law for another man , I was a construction worker building a 3 million dollar hotel , The owner walked in and asked if i would like to keep my job because it wasn't being built fast enough for him , I had only been there 2 months and it was half built when I started , I threw the shovel at him and said , It doesn't matter to me ! I had just turned 18 years old , But I decided then and there that Money or Fame don't make you better than me . I'm an equal human being to the 110 Billion people that have lived and died on this Earth since Adam and Eve .

[@honeybunch5765]

That was so rude, they should not have moved you guys! I hate it when people treat these celebs as demigods.

[@honeybunch5765]

@@jimthomas1989 agree!

[@nja3224]

I too was a kid/teen coming of age in the 70s and Lola was on my map as one of entertainments most beautiful and talented women on the planet.

[@regisnyder]

That kind of “banning” could cause a lawsuit these days because it could impact that celebrity’s livelihood (ex.gigs in Los Vegas, tour dates tanked, no movie roles offered).

[@Mark-gg6iy]

Anybody can file a civil lawsuit for anything. Nobody is owed opportunities. If the suit were filed today she would lose and rightfully so.

[@wendytravis6427]

Not sure why there wasn’t a lawsuit. Maybe there is more to the story. But, the “these days” vs. today is irrelevant. It was probably easier 40 years ago, before worry about frivolous lawsuits was even a thing.

[@laborincana4490]

@@Mark-gg6iy why would she lose and why rightfully?

[@Mark-gg6iy]

@@laborincana4490 I already stated why.

[@rileymrr1]

@@Mark-gg6iy You stated your opinion but not legally why she wouldn’t win.

[@michaelrochester48]

I knew of the story about why Carson and Wayne Newton hated each other. Back in the 70s Johnny Carson made a lot of jokes at the expense of Wayne Newton, usually questioning his manhood, masculinity or even sexuality. It got so bad that we Newton personally went to Carson’s office grab Carson by his shirt and told him if he doesn’t stop with the jokes he’s going to knock his lights out.

[@robertarnold9676]

That's what Newton said. We don't know if it's true.

[@tpstrato2270]

lol

[@mrwallstreet1]

I remember when Wayne newton punked Johnny carson. lol EPIC😎

[@frogger1952]

@@robertarnold9676 Only two men were in the room, so who knows who exactly said what. Newton did threaten to sue Carson over the gay jokes unless he knocked it off...which he did. Somehow, I can't see Wayne Newton punching out anyone.

[@rfwiggins5907]

What is Wayne doing nowadays?

[@normanwillis3179]

That was a great thing Wayne Newton did I will always respect that man for what he did. It really touched my heart when he bailed her out of jail.

[@ApartmentKing66]

Yes, that WAS impressive. A very BIG man to do that.

[@WytZox1]

* When Wayne was on Joan Rivers' daytime talk show they had a field day discussing what a jerk Johnny Carson was! 😌

[@robertgreen1282]

Newton also tried to help other entertainers in crisis.

[@jeanneratterman]

Maybe she could not sue Johnny for this pettiness, but it reflects an ugly side of Johnny. Very petty, and not professional.

[@paulgentile1024]

@@jeanneratterman anyone involved in the entertainment business knows it's a dog-eat-dog world...

[@IMBrute-ir7gz]

Those of us "of a certain age" definitely remember Lola Falana and other celebrities of the time. However, this reminds me of SCTV's Katherine O'Hara's hilarious character, Lola Heatherton. Those sketches with Sammy Maudlin and Bobby Bitman were pure comedic genius and wickedly lampooned that late night TV talk show era.

[@jdsundstrom]

I loved SCTV and "Lola Heatherton"!

[@1099Kramo]

Second City was awesome.

[@gurinapsait8602]

I watch SCTV on youtube.. It makes me laugh to this day..

[@gurinapsait8602]

@@1099Kramo It sure was..

[@MykolasGilbert]

I think your confusing O'Hara's Lampooned character with Joey Heatherton!!

[@peacebeyondpassion2]

I was a kid coming up remembering her as a sex symbol. Every male I knew was in love with her lol! A great talent and a beautiful woman.

[@mariefraher8725]

She was so beautiful and talented. She should have had her own show. I so miss all the real talent that was highlighted on tv back then. I think I read that when she cane down with MS that Wayne Newton helped her financially and picked up her medical bills. True friends.

[@Durttar695]

@Marie Fraher: I sure hope you were kidding. Old, old timer here; you made me question my sanity. LOL 😆. Ms. Falana did indeed have a short-lived show. (Thank you, Google search.)

[@mariefraher8725]

@@Durttar695 Old timer here too. Loved Lola: her wit, her energy. Sorry I missed her show.

[@spankyharland9845]

never make johnny carson upset, Rodney Dangerfeld indirectly pissed off johnny, but apologized to him and johnny then kept him as a regular guest.

[@patrickhenry2845]

Johnny was at odds with Joan Rivers too.

[@spankyharland9845]

@@patrickhenry2845 they were buds until she did her own show on Fox without his permission ( I think Johnny was a control freak). He never spoke to her again.

[@patrickhenry2845]

@@spankyharland9845 Johnny didn't like Bob Hope either. Bob was a long time employee of NBC. When there was radio and no TV. Bob Hope was the only person, that could demand to be on the NBC Tonight Show. Without Johnny's permission. Johnny had his match with Bob Hope. Nobody bossed around Bob Hope. Including Johnny Carson.

[@JungleYT]

@@patrickhenry2845 *That's because Bob owned half of Burbank or something... Johnny was a pip squeak, relatively speaking...*

[@sergioleone3583]

Thanks for your positive takes on so many things Dave! I never was a Wayne Newton fan (not my kind of music either). It was nice to hear what he did for Dana Plato.

[@jdsundstrom]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@lolajoker]

Charles Grodin was never really banned from the Tonight Show except for maybe comic effect. Grodin had an exclusive contract to only appear on Carson and their on air confrontations were totally fake and part of a long running bit. Grodin also appeared on Letterman's Late Night which was produced by Carson's production company. Grodin had the same mock confrontational relationship with Letterman on air as well.

[@frogger1952]

You're 100% correct. And the whole mock feud between Grodin and Carson was really funny.

[@barbsmith5465]

No Charles was not banned.

[@Jamaicafunk]

Grodin did the same thing with SNL. It was performance art well before Andy Kaufman.

[@modernretroradio993]

I was going to post a similar comment. Grodin was on quite a bit, even in the latter years.

[@thudthedestroyer515]

I grew up in the seventies as well. My first recollection of her was like being stunned, like seeing a sun rise over the ocean. Ms Falana changed my boyhood view of those 'icky-stupid girls' to WOW!!! She is insanely beautiful! As I became aware of her talent in so many TV appearances I was hooked. To this day, any woman that favors her looks and intelligence immediately triggers me! She will always be the prototype in my mind!

[@RJNumber45]

Well said...im from that era too...Lola Falana, Pam Grier, and Diahann Carroll were like goddesses to me.

[@Justin_Credable]

Likewise with (from Princess to Queen ) Summers. Rest In Energy to both.

[@tubucoco]

@@RJNumber45 There was also a beautiful woman on the 70s drama show called MANNIX. I forget her name, but she too was drop dead gorgeous, and I always thought something was gonna happen between her and her boss MANNIX relationship wise. But it never did, most definitely because of the times and racism. But she was acting on tv in that show in the late 60s to the 70s, so, she would have been one of the first Black women on tv along with the gorgeous Lt. Uhrura on Star Trek. I think I spelled that name right.😂

[@RJNumber45]

@@tubucoco yep..."Peggy" from Mannix...her name was Gail Fisher..she passed away in the late 90s

[@tubucoco]

@@RJNumber45 that's it, thank you! Ms. Fisher was a talented and great woman. May she RIP and God bless her!

[@theylied1776]

I'm glad you showed that picture of Red Fox with Lola Falana. When I used to watch the reruns of Sanford and Son, his character Fred Sanford used to talk about Lola Falana and Lena Horne all the time.

[@SilverGram]

Loved her, she was an amazing dancer.

[@JohnnyDeMarco-jp8vb]

She was truly an amazing dancer, and also had the nicest legs around

[@egretsregret]

I met Lola in the 70's when she was married to Butch Tavares of the Tavares Bros. singing group. She was a devastating beauty.

[@richardbuchanan5497]

Freddy Tavares?

[@markw208]

Hhhmmm 🤔 Lola Falana was, as you mentioned, multi talented. She was sooo good looking 😍 & a great voice.

[@jdsundstrom]

True!!

[@cindeed4422]

Beautiful and talented lady. Loved her on Love Boat. Maybe Rich Little did a spot on impression of Johnny!

[@TheNecronacht]

How interesting in that your video would show up in my KZbin feed today. I was literally thinking of Lola Falana just yesterday. Fond memories of her and another star of the time, Joey Heatherton. My memories of them go back to Bob Hope doing USO tours in Viet Nam. Time has a way of slipping away as you get older. "Thanks for the Memories" Bob Hope, and all the folks you brought to entertain our troops.

[@garylillich]

Would love to hear more stories about Johnny Carson off camera persona. I understand it was totally different than his on camera persona

[@randyc5650]

Lola was talented and beautiful and I enjoyed whatever she did.

[@edreid7872]

Always wondered what happened to Lola....as you said, she was on television all the time during the 70s...she was Ann-Margaret's counterpart when it came to Vegas acts.. Well, after a quick check, seems her bout with multiple sclerosis is why we no longer saw her into the 80s and 90s..She has a television special on KZbin worth checking out..

[@martyemmons3100]

Thanks, I'm gonna watch it after reading the rest of these comments.

[@jdsundstrom]

I watched the special on KZbin. It’s great!

[@kennydeez..1774]

This was soooo Kool. My first time watching your channel and I liked the Lola Story. Im glad you did a video story of her. Great Vid.👍🏿💯👍🏿

[@marinaparigiani4090]

DURING THE 70S she was a very acclaimed performer in Italy. Often watched her. She was a real smash.

[@jyesucevitz]

technically Lola and others weren't banned by The Tonight Show, but by Johnny personally. any of them were supposedly permitted as long as a guest host was covering for Carson.

[@jdsundstrom]

That is correct.

[@only257]

@@jdsundstrom my buddy my my buddy my buddy and me god i love that commerical❤

[@drock9083]

true Charo was on the T.S. with 3 different guest hosts. But there is a clip of Rich Little making Carson laugh his signature laugh. So maybe besides Wayne Newton who was on the show a couple of dozen times but threatened to cut Carson's tongue out to his face if he didn't stop making a certain 'joke' it was after your like first appearance that the ban went into effect. Kevin Nealon was banned after a joke Carson didn't like. So it was kinda obvious that some sort of professional jealousy played a big role in the ban's.

[@TheGlssr60]

@ Jim Y Yeah, the host said that repeatedly. Weren't you paying attention?

[@kenlompart9905]

2:20 He said she was no longer welcome when Johnny was hosting.

[@gymshoe8862]

Carson had a happy public demeanor but in private he was often a different guy. He had a hot temper, he would hold grudges forever, he wanted sexual favors from women he dated, he was insecure in spite of making hundreds of millions of dollars. He made jokes about Wayne Newton for years, Newton told him to lay off but Carson continued. Newton is a big guy, Carson was a little guy and Newton made him fear for his life--you can look up the matter online--Carson was a little man in many ways.

[@DavidBrown-in8hi]

I never met a mean drunk before, but that how Joe Namath described Carson, during g the time they were drinking together.

[@scotthighcam]

Carson always came off as "pompous"..

[@axepagode33626]

What Lola wants. Lola gets. I remember my dad loving it when she was on TV and my mother rolling her eyes.

[@icecol22]

I remember watching Lola in the 1970s as a child. She was very beautiful and talented. Then she vanished sometime in the mid to late 1980s. I remember that she ended up developing MS in 1987.She was doing a Christmas variety show with Redd Fox(Motown Merry Christmas)and she was starting to experience symptoms of the disease during recording of that show.I haven't heard anything about her since.

[@rivkajazz]

Lola Falana AND Tamara Dobson (Cleopatra Jones). 😢

[@generationofswine-ge5rw]

The fact that Newton helped out Dana Plato, a stranger, like that really impressed me. That amount of money is nothing to a star like him, but it is the literal difference between life and death for many.

[@jdsundstrom]

Agreed. Wayne's kindness was truly impressive.

[@buffbill-t2i]

Of course I do not know the whole story but sometimes a period of time in jail may help you get straight, there was a charge against me back in the 1980s and honestly I wish I could have gotten time for it!!!

[@jasongoldtrap1114]

Great video Dave. Happy 2023

[@johnellharris1366]

This is a excellent show God love Mr. Dave Sunstrom,you remind us all of the greatness of our humanity.Also the best of times.

[@jdsundstrom]

Thanks for your kind words. 🙂

[@marthawelch4289]

Lola is now 80 years old. She was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 1987 which has left her body's left side paralyzed.

[@jdsundstrom]

Thanks for sharing!

[@marthawelch4289]

@@jdsundstrom I have friends whose parent lived for 40 years with MS. It is an insidious condition robbing people of movement and I remember thinking that it was such a sadness that Lola, who was a beautiful dancer, could no longer share that talent with us. Thanks, Dave, for all of the information that you provide us.

[@davidcollver6155]

Just read Desert Wind 1978 friends. Visiting Vegas going to Wayne Newton show. What comes around goes around. Miserable people just go down quicker on their own.

[@only257]

@@jdsundstrom kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJ7ad2CwrpeMptE

[@WilliamsDad1989]

@@davidcollver6155 Pretty sure Johnny wasn't miserable. And, he didn't go down, he went out with style and grace.

[@msgfrmdaactionman3000]

Thanks for the history! @1:16 As a teen boy who grew up when the Love Boat was on, I'm amazed that a boy was watching that show in the 70s. BTW, I saw Wayne Newton in Iraq at Camp Victory (Baghdad) in 2004, he had Rob Schneider on first and that show for me was a joy to watch.

[@jdsundstrom]

You are most welcome. Thanks for the comment!

[@jesssimpson5959]

I liked the story about Wayne Newton doing a good deed, it reminded me of when my son was on the wrestling team in high school in Southern California, they had a meet against Beverly Hills high school and during the match one of the kids on our team broke his arm and one of the dads from the other team went to the hospital after the game to offer to pay their hospital bill but the family had good insurance and didn’t need help but it was still a cool thing to do, that man was Nicholas Cage.

[@Donna_G]

I can't say that I've ever seen Lola Falana in anything. But, Barry Manilow sang a song called Copacabana (At the Copa) back in the mid 1980s. One of the lines in the song is a reference to Lola Falana, I believe. I wonder why Johnny Banned Rich Little? Rich could do a very good impression of Johnny. Could that be the reason? I've always liked Wayne Newton's singing, ever since I first heard him sing Danke Schoen, I was a fan of his music. This song was actually presented to Bobby Darin. If you listen to it, Danke Schoen does seem like the perfect song for Bobby Darin. But, after listening to Wayne Newton perform at the Copacabana, Bobby gave the song to him.

[@bondoly66]

The reason Johnny banned him was because of the impression. It got old with Johnny, and he started to resent it.

[@dukecraig2402]

"Music and fashion was always her passion at the Copa..Copacabanaaaaaaa" Barry Manilow, 1985. Funny story, about 15 years ago Sydney Australia was having a problem with young hoodlums hanging around late at night at the train station, which was inactive during those hours with no trains running, they were vandalizing property and doing all the other things young hoodlums do when it's late at night and no one's around, so instead of hiring night security people which probably would have led to an undesirable event anyway someone on the city council got the idea to pipe Barry Manilow music over the speaker system all night while the station was closed, it worked, they were driven off by it and the young hoodlums found some other places to hang around all night saving the city millions of dollars in damages from future vandalism.

[@TheDukeofMadness]

It could come down to Johnny not wanting to be upstaged on his own show. I saw an episode where Jonathan Winters was on. And even he was somewhat subdued. I remember the Krusty Comeback episode of the Simpsons that had Johnny Carson in it. He was seen juggling a car, which is so over the top unbelievable it seems like Carson needed to be the most memorable in the episode. And this is one that had Elizabeth Taylor in it.

[@troyc4250]

Banned?! Ok wait I’ll keep watching and comment again.

[@MoonLightOnWater1]

She was such a beauty and an enormous talent!!❤

[@VincentWilliams007]

I remember as a kid seeing 01:51, and to this day, several decades later it's still fantastic. I've never seen anything like it. I wish I could see the entire skit again.

[@saleemahfareed4790]

I don’t know thanks for sharing, so sad, Johnny Carson rest in peace 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

[@wendybutler1681]

My dad was very vocal in his admiration of her. I don't think she was one that he got to see in person. The incredible talent combined with her undeniable beauty and personality had him enthralled and he'd bring her up if the conversation was about multi-talented women. Always so respectful when he spoke of his favorite ladies. He's the one who made me realize Barbara Stanwyck has a career long before Big Valley and Julie London before Emergency. I guess he saw a lot of movies growing up in Boulder, Montana in the 1920s and 30s. Not much else to do once his grocery deliveries were done and the sun went down. His dad ran the butcher shop/grocery store in Boulder.

[@mick40jb]

Lola Falana on 'Sanford and Son' was one of the funniest episodes of the series😁🤣😂😉

[@jdsundstrom]

Totally agree!

[@jabbaa6500]

I also ran onto Lola in the 90's here in Las Vegas as we were both in line to pick up a Honey Baked Ham. She was so pleasant and sweet to all of us in line, a beautiful lady too. Now Wayne Newton that's another story, I will not comment on how I feel about him, if ya got nothin' nice to say about someone don't say it! Hoping Lola is oaky in 2023.

[@gsmith6097]

I remember watching Lola Falana on the tonight show one night when something happened that I've never seen anyone comment on. Everything was normal until she suddenly said "Johnny, I've always wanted to do this." She then stands up, walks around to the other side of his desk and sits on the desk with her back partially to the audience. The camera suddenly cuts to another camera angle from far stage left, one they never used on the show, where all you could see was Falana's back and Johnny's face. He suddenly got very wide-eyed. They never said anything about it, but I've always suspected that she lifted her shirt and flashed him. It was a really odd scene otherwise.

[@sunshinegirl1655]

Now that sounds like something that would have gotten her banned.

[@adriennerobinson1180]

Really? Wow

[@xr2863]

Everyone in my house at the time knew what was what cause Johnny had her as a guest 12-15 times every year. She became a regular on the show and he was getting his...I guarantee you. I knew that as a kid of 14 or 15 at the time.

[@pennylopez2571]

It was a wardrobe accident. She never knew one of her breasts was exposed until Carson told her jokingly about it. Carson was said to be prude. Think Janet Jackson when Timberlake exposed her. Contracts for her were cancelled. An uproar. Think FB. You can't publish women's nipples or you get suspended even if it's art. It ws an accident.

[@williamblakehall5566]

(I'd forgotten that Grape Nuts go back that far.) I was never much of one for soap operas, and yet I recall trying to watch something called Capitol for a while, in which Lola played an art thief named, of all things, Charity Blake. Definitely would have liked to see more of her. Thanks, Dave.

[@ilovegoodsax]

I remember the 70s Grape Nuts commercial with Euell Gibbons as the spokesman. His tag line was... ("They taste like wild hickory nuts!")

[@williamblakehall5566]

@@ilovegoodsax Heck, I remember when the Carol Burnett Show parodied that commercial, with Tim Conway as Gibbons trying to take a bite out of someone's arm.

[@rparl]

I remember the mention of wild hickory nuts. But I've never actually tasted wild hickory nuts. And until you mentioned them, I probably hadn't even thought of them for several decades.

[@samanthanickson6478]

@@williamblakehall5566 wasn’t he eating pine cones and tree bark? 😆

[@brendanjobe6895]

Grape-Nuts sponsored Jack Benny in the 1940's, right before he got a (then) top of the line sponsor, Lucky Strike. They've been around a long time. Back then, being picked up by Camel or Lucky Strike was like winning the sponsor lottery.

[@jackdavide5742]

Lola Falana was/is such a huge talent. Before you explained the ban, I was thinking that the reason would be Carson's insecurity and fear of being upstaged by the singer. Thanks for another great video.

[@jdsundstrom]

I’m glad you enjoyed the video. 🙂

[@lizlong5250]

I enjoyed your video very much! I wish you had commented on how Lola Falana's career went after she was banned from the Tonight Show. Did her career continue in Las Vegas? I was a small black kid back in the day but I remember her, Diahann Carroll and Teresa Graves because they were on TV the most from what I can remember. Thank you because I never knew why Lola disappeared from television.

[@jdsundstrom]

I’m glad you enjoyed the video.

[@vinceharris2616]

All the people who we're banned were great talent's especially Charo... Master guitarist,,mind boggling talent...

[@jdsundstrom]

Love Charo!

[@taotaostrong]

Thanks for covering this lovely lady. I adore her. Happy New Year Dave!

[@jdsundstrom]

Happy new year!

[@christophertracy2807]

She is criminally overlooked in history. Few equaled her when she was alive or now.

[@martyemmons3100]

I totally agree with you! When my daughter exclaims Beyonce's beauty, I told my daughter about how beautiful Diahann Carroll was. And now that I think about it, I should've thought about Lola Falana first.

[@christophertracy2807]

@@martyemmons3100 And tell her that Carroll and Falana had great beauty, talent, and never had to twerk or dance like whores

[@NoOne-kr4jc]

Showbiz history

[@adriennerobinson1180]

Sad but True SMH

[@tmmartinesq.6216]

Lola Falana had her own show!

[@jpboursaw4469]

Loved that photo at the end! Be it Redd Fox or as Fred Sanford, that was on person that always had a welcoming word for Lola regardless of who she knew. Even when she wasn’t on his show Fred would mention her frequently. As for Rich Little, Carson might not have been enamored with his imitation of him. Odd, since he loved Tommy Smothers version. Might’ve been their physical resemblance. You never knew what would tickle Johnny’s fancy, or rub him the wrong way. Somebody slipped (probably wrong but I think it was Charles Grodin) and called him Jack on the show once. You could hear a pin drop. Even though it’s a nickname for John, Johnny assumed it was a reference to his predecessor Jack Parr, and was never invited back. Go figure.

[@martyemmons3100]

You're absolutely right! I had never watched every episode of Sanford and Son. But almost every episode I watched, Fred talked about Lola Falana.

[@lolajoker]

Totally not true about Charles Grodin. Grodin had a special contract with Carson to only guest on Carson and not do other shows. They had an on air antagonistic relationship on the show that was totally a bit. Since Carson's production company produced Letterman's show, Grodin did Late Night with Letterman too and had a similar fake antagonistic on air relationship with Letterman as well. As far as Rich Little, he did his impression of Johnny many time to Johnny for many years. Carson could be very proprietary to certain guests so maybe Little was a guest on a rival show that pissed Carson off. I doubt it had anything to do with his impression of him.

[@jpboursaw4469]

@@lolajoker *sigh*, We’ll that explains why I’d think of them. Some days I wish I could Google specific points in my memory! Rich Little did end up with a short lived variety show on ABC. And I’m still sure SOMEBODY called Johnny Jack, and it was a huge no~no at the time.

[@SylviaStalcup]

I watched her all the time as a guest on the Dean Martin show mostly. But she was a musical guest on pretty much any variety show back then and became one of the first resident entertainers of Las Vegas. Then I heard she had been diagnosed with a debilitating disease and we began to see less and less of her.😢

[@linkee57]

I wasn’t going to comment or subscribe but by the time I finished your video you seem like a really nice person and I thought I’d be interested in listening to more of the things you have to offer. God bless you.❤

[@jdsundstrom]

Thanks for subbing!

[@Underwaystudios]

Thanks Dave for remembering my past for me! There's so much I've forgotten I need help.

[@jdsundstrom]

You're very welcome

[@marcusbetancourt3760]

Johnny Carson was a very good tv host. Probably the very best ever. Too bad that he was never more than that! RIP! Please. RIP!

[@anye76]

While playing dress up as a little girl I always said I wanted to be her. I thought I'd dance on a telethon one day with Sammy. I practiced my tap, jazz, and ballet diligently with my Fame logo t-shirt and legwarmers lol She was so lovely and beautiful in my little girl eyes. She was a live Barbie doll💕😁

[@The-Right-is-Right]

...so what did you become in the end?

[@Frank-i7j]

I, Frank Hayden Thank You for this segment on the Beautiful/Wonderful/Talented Entertainer Ms. Lola Falana. I love 🌹❤Lola. Johnny Carson was My Favorite also. I watched both of them on Television throughout the 70's. And beyond. I Love Her. God Bless You Lola. You have A Beautiful Soul. Your Best Fan Forever, Frank Hayden. Please, Please Reply. Praying for You Always

[@Frank-i7j]

Thank You

[@JAB58]

She was born in my hometown Camden NJ a legend

[@stephanlasure3746]

😱 OMGOOSH!! I'm from Atlantic City area (egg harbor city)... I had no idea she was from around route 130 possibly... someone said she performed in ACY & I wish there was some footage of the show 🤔

[@kennethwilliams7731]

I do recall Fred G Sanford. period. had a huge crush on her and mentioned her name often on Sanford and Son!

[@ybscorpio41]

Lena Horne

[@roymerritt9927]

I was in lived in California briefly once. I had an occasion to be in Hollywood briefly once also. One day I found myself at the once-famous Brown Derby around lunchtime in the early seventies before they demolished it. I was at the bar with my sketch pad because back then I was a rather good amateur artist. There were few people in there and so I began sketching two very attractive black women who were seated at a booth against the rear wall of the establishment that had numerous photos and other framed pictures lined on it. I was having a few beers and the bartender was very nice. I was casually dressed even wearing my old Army field jacket so evidently, at least at that hour, there was no dress code. I was struck by how small the place seemed to be. The bartender even sharpened my pencils for me. After a while, he noticed I was sketching the two women. Well at some point he evidently told those two women and as they were leaving they approached me. I knew one of the women was Ms. Falana having seen her on the Tonight Show some of those times she appeared there and being a man I saw her as one of the sexiest women alive. She was not only a good singer but a very good dancer and she could really get your hormones going. They told me the bartender had told them I was drawing their picture and they asked me if they could see it. Well, certainly I said, in fact, I told Ms. Falana she could keep it if she wanted it. She said that would be very nice and that I should sign it for her. Well of course I agreed and tore it out of my sketch pad and handed it to her. She introduced the other woman I believe, as her agent, and we all shook hands. I told her how much I appreciated her as an entertainer and she was very nice. Then she asked me if I had seen her two most recent tv specials and I told her regrettably that I hadn't. I neglected to ask her for her autograph, but since she was about to exit I didn't want to seem like a fawning fan and that was all I was after. What really struck me was how short she was because on tv she looked much taller. Don't get me wrong she was still very beautiful and utterly sexy. I didn't know about Carson banning her because of his hatred of Wayne Newton. I do know at one time the two of them were an item between some of his marriages. I do know that he had a seething hatred for Newton. For what reason I'll never know. Last time I heard she had MS. and had long ago retired from show business. She's 80 years old now but back then she must have been 32 since I was 25 at the time and I know she was born 7 years before me in Sept. 1942. I on the other hand will turn 74, 22 days from now in Jan. I always wondered if she kept that sketch with her memorabilia. I hope she did and when recalling it remembers the young veteran from North Carolina who drew it.

[@bobtaylor170]

And a Happy Birthday to you, sir.

[@stephanlasure3746]

Yes, happy birthday 🥳🎉

[@keithe2150]

I saw him over in the 1984 corporate annual meeting function. She did her act several of the attendees who were managers of hotels totally embarrass themselves and were later reprimanded by the home office. She did a great job performing, but the people simply acted like animals. Again, you’ve managed to come up with some information that I have never heard before. I think it would probably be an honor to be on the band list of anybody famous. Another good job. Thanks, Dave Also, I’m using Siri first sorry for any incorrect words.

[@GMANN83]

Hmmm, I met Lola Falana in 1974 as a kid when she came to Oroville California to film the movie The klansman. At the time my mother became friends with Lola Falana inviting her to the local talent show which she showed up and I even got a kiss on the cheek from her. But the important situation that I recall my mother was a songwriter and she was trying to make it my mother wrote a song called "a penny for your thoughts" Lola Falana liked it and said she would help her do something with it , that was the last time we heard from her in 1974. 2 years later in 1976 we heard the song on the radio sung by The "Tavares" which in the group was Lola falana's then boyfriend Butch,imagine that.

[@GMANN83]

@SummerBreeze yes to make a long story short about it my mother actually wrote that song two to three years before it was aired on radio and given to the Tavares Brothers the interesting thing is though my mom being from the country in Oroville California the conversation between Lola and my mom was you need to come out to LA Hollywood to get noticed but anyway my mom handed that song to Lola in good faith and we do believe after that she disappeared my mother could never contact her she wouldn't respond and even when I became older I tried to reach out and contact her while she was doing her residency residency in Vegas and our home in New Jersey so we just chalked it up to a loss and that's how people can be and that's how the business can be. Thank you for your interest.

[@Adasteia-n2r]

Well that reason is so Junior Highschool ! But you have to remember he couldn't get along with his own children. He seemed so normal but he had some serious issues ! Had to control everyone in his world.

[@treaty92]

She was truly beautiful and an amazing talent