The Crazy Swing Move That Keeps Winning on the PGA Tour

[@bigdumbanimal23]

Your demonstration where you throw the club head without rotating made it all clear for me. What Nicklaus said about releasing from the top. I have watched Monte and Malaska describe this but I couldn't appreciate it until I saw your "no-turn" casting explanation. I went outside and tried it on my net and the balls were rocketing. Thanks for the lesson!!

[@shawild1]

Steve, Mike Malaska has been preaching this move for years! Thanks for reiterating!

[@tylerpohler3271]

When you couple this methodology with the understanding that the hands need to be slowing down so the clubface can continuously speed up. It opens up a whole new world for most golfers

[@brians2351]

This works! I was starting out in speed training and maxed out at 102mph club head. I then started applying torque as early as possible and bingo 110 mph swing in the very next swing and it was repeatable and with less overall effort. This approach sets in motion a great downswing sequence with a more bslanced completed follow through. Give it a go.

[@dannosoar2534]

I’m 64 years old and I always had trouble hitting the longer clubs for distance. I tried this and I will never look back, I can now smash a 1 iron!!!, and it feels effortless.

[@Golf7536]

Steve, this is your best video by far. Really fixed my swing. Thanks for all your great videos and instruction. You are the best!

[@thomasholdtchristensen9566]

Thx mate... this changed my game.. ive been slicing for years. It makes so much sense now...

[@Far2hip]

It’s important for folks to understand a few things about this “tumble” feeling in the golf swing. Once you execute it properly you can definitely feel the difference it makes in a few very important aspects of the swing sequence. For one thing, if your executing the tumble correctly, it literally forces the club head out to the farthest perimeter of the swing plane and at the same time forces your right arm to fire that club down on that ball from the inside of your downswing. By forcing your forearms and wrists to tumble in this way while you’re using your arms in the rotation, you can only do it if your arms are positioned correctly. It sounds odd, but this literally pushes you to find the right arm position to allow your tumble motion to happen. Absolutely happened to me and I could feel it clearly. When I felt that happening it felt VERY explosive at the ball strike and very smooth all the way through. After all the work I went through making sure I was hitting all the right angles and positions that brought me to properly shallowing the club at the transition to the down swing, this “tumble” motion incorporated into the sequence was quite the revelation once I really felt the effects. There was not only a dramatic rise in ball speed and distance, but the consistent accuracy of the ball flight was incredible. This advice of incorporation that tumble motion is probably the most effective game changers for my swing. No doubt. 😎😎😎

[@jasonmeyer9147]

I started doing this a year ago! Mike Malaska and Joe Nichols also teach this on their channel. It has added yards and straightend my shots out too. Awesome to see others teaching this too!! Just validates what others show too.

[@wasatchgolfacademy1046]

Steve! Thank god other coaches are on this!!! I am so sick of being told I’m insane and I love that Mr. Manzella and Dr. Nesbit are on board. A student sent me this video and I’m ecstatic!

[@bobh2610]

I remember back in the 80's or 90's it was Dalton McCrary (from the "How To Hit A Golf Ball As Straight As You Can Point" infomercials) who was saying this movement of that flip you showed was crucial - he called it the "One And Roll", where the "One" was the takeaway, the "And" was getting up to the top, and the "Roll" was the start of the downswing and the flip, and he showed it exactly where you do, way back there. He even had a training aid with a weight that stayed at the handle until enough force was imparted to fling it toward the head, and he said it should happen way before impact. I still have the VHS tapes, never bought the training aid.

[@DunnGolfing]

100%

[@PaulMcG425]

Absolutely

[@hugorivera385]

Howbout him hitting used care tires for practice. Lol...

[@len1250]

I had that same set of tapes! It actually worked for a while. I don’t remember why I stopped swinging like that.

[@ianforsyth2090]

Haha quality, that’s a blast from the past, I’m from the UK and purchased these tapes. Dalton kept going on about you should be wearing a part of your right shoe on to toe.......did a great job getting me to early extend 😂😂😂

[@TheGHINger]

The force applied to the handle at the top is a braking force. It doesn’t necessarily mean that the club is ACTUALLY starting to unhinge. It slows down the acceleration of the club in the backswing, then stops the club, and then accelerates it in the other direction. This is why we don’t see tour professionals “casting” even though they’re applying force! It’s the timing of these forces that creates a traditional looking move. Steve does this by talking about “blending” the body turn. Great video.

[@handyallen]

Absolutely correct and when combined with the left shoulder delay a beautiful draw results😊

[@stephenwong7645]

Hi Steve. Great video. Thank you. Question, is this swing move used for just driver or should it be implemented with irons as well?

[@mharbaugh]

All clubs! The reason the driver swing "looks" different is because the ball is setup much more forward than with the irons. That point where the left arm and club shaft form a straight line near impact is basically at the ball with the driver, and just after the ball with the iron. But it's in essentially the same spot relative to the body... It's just the ball position that's changed!

[@bobmclean5809]

Great video. Dalton McCrary (who published videos in the 1990’s) also advocated starting the release at the top although he favoured a more upright swing path. He also recommended a “pole drill” so ensure complete rotation of the wrists similar to your own. His conclusions were based on high speed camera footage that had become available at the time. 👍

[@Inmotion70]

Thanks for sharing!

[@jamestown4867]

It works. I posted about six months ago and said it felt like a turbocharger kicking in and for the first time in my 45 years of golfing got honest 300+ yarders.

[@Inmotion70]

Awesome!

[@jamestown4867]

For me it wasn’t an easy move to repeat consistently and only after four years of my (almost religious) conversion to the MA method could I repeat it on the course. Mike’s “throw the thumb out from the top” and Shauger had his interpretation while none as so seemingly vigorously closing the face as you demonstrate, you’ve added a new dimension of awareness for me. One thing I can say is that it almost forces me to be active with my lower body (hopefully as you are.) The weird thing about the compound pivot is that it’s not about whipping the hips a la Hogan’s elastic bands but I do hit as hard as I can with my “three right hands.” Again, I don’t think it’s easy move to quickly ingrain but once grasped, I’ll bet one’s newly found cruising speed is about as good as one’s best to that point. My revelation, borne out of anger but revealing that 300 yarders were hiding somewhere within me. It just came suddenly when trying to apply that move you demonstrate. My best of about 260 jumped to 295 (the angry shot) and I can cruise at 250-60; and at 68, that good enough for me. You’ve been a great help. Thanks, Steve.

[@imuawarriors]

after watching your videos, I now get irritated whenever I hear someone say to hold on to the lag... I've improved so much after learning about this channel...

[@scottreiber6879]

I've been swinging like this for years. I'm a Ernest Jones guy and Jones always described the golf swing as a circle, so I started unloading my left wrist from the top to make a bigger circle with the clubhead. Distance and accuracy are the result, and I feel I'm not swinging as hard. Check out some of those old instructional films of Bobby Jones, this is EXACTLY how he is swinging.

[@scottreiber6879]

Jack Nicklaus said it in the original "Golf my way" instructional video, " It is impossible to release the clubhead from the top of the swing too soon, as long as you move to your left side". Fred Couples, Greg Norman, etc. swing this way. A byproduct of this swing is very little or no divot with the irons. I watched Norman and Nicklaus hitting balls on the range at the '89 Memorial Tournament and neither of those guys took a blade of grass with their irons. Just left a little crease on the turf.

[@brianmclean7576]

My new swing Works great - thanks Steve !! - now other than setup position - what can average golfer do with irons??

[@A.Man..]

Can't wait to try this. Thanks for your videos. I'm resting an injured shoulder blade from fishing.... next week I hope to get out on the range, this looks like it will give me some additional power and not affect injury

[@bobreidy8665]

55 years ago I had my first golf lesson with a Club Pro named Billy Kay-Smith in Australia. This was the exact method he taught. So many of my golfing partners said I was casting but it sent the ball out there.

[@Miura_Spain]

😍nice to see that more top coaches are going with this method ... Mike Malaska coach the dame things for long Time already MALASKA MOVE.... and is what I teacher more Than 10 Years already after I Know Mike... Change my World coaching.. Thanks Mike and thanks all of you for making this game more simple and easy .. Love it ❤

[@8uvrays]

I think it would help a lot of people if they think of it as a result of the switch from the butt of the club leading the stroke to the club head leading the stroke, combined with the switch of the force of the swing from going down and forward to moving up and backward. This places the switch as happening well after contact and you begin to think of it in terms of a racquet reaction to a gradual increase in wrist speed throughout the forward swing.

[@josephgarsgarcia5475]

Does this work with a neutral grip?

[@ocat1979]

This is exactly how David Duval described how his swing felt. It definitely had Charlie Rymer puzzled 🤣 Also known as the “Malaska Move”, he refers to it as tipping the clubhead out 👍

[@dentfix]

"Over the top", but "on plane". The most powerful move in golf! I was explaining this to a "handle dragger" yesterday. This "dragger" had a 160+ mph ball speed with a 3 wood. (ex hockey player) I can't imagine what's going to happen when he gets this move figured out.

[@Hoganwantabe]

The “tipping the club head out” is exactly correct. I discovered this move too while using the training aid that has the teaching grip, and the short bent shaft with the weight on the end. The only thing I would add is: I always feel as if my arms stay in front of my chest… entirely through the swing. As I make my shoulder turn in the takeaway, my arms ultimately work up to the top of the backswing; arms staying in front of the chest with the club essentially over the right shoulder (for a right hander). The first move on the downswing is a simple dropping of the arms by gravity, as I rotate into my left side. The clubhead tips early in the downswing, and squares automatically. It’s all one blended motion as Steve says. I no longer feel that I have to “search for the swing plane.” It works beautifully with every club in the bag. Steve is right… it will transform a golfer’s game. Additionally, there is a rather current video of Tiger practicing bunker shots where he is essentially rehearsing this move that Steve is talking about. It looks a little bit different from this, but my eyes see essentially the same move. Great advice Steve, and Brad O!

[@xcelgolf]

How do you keep from flipping after impact?

[@Hoganwantabe]

@@xcelgolf if I may be so bold to try to offer some help… I’ve found when you really have a good feel for the technique, there won’t be any flipping through the shot. I encourage you to just practice the motion. You’ll eventually come to that “ah I’ve got it” moment. Just practice Steve’s advice. Best wishes with your game.

[@ocat1979]

@@xcelgolf it’s a strange move at first when you do it slow. Hands go in, clubhead goes out. But when you add in rotation and speed, physics takes over and the clubhead has no option but to travel on the correct plane. Search “david duval describing his swing feel” 👌

[@HumanBean520]

We’ll this just validated my golf swing. Thanks!

[@antonblaisemarks2831]

Fantastic Steve … great info look forward to further videos regarding this … 👍👏👋ps .. this is similar to count yogis swing .. and if anyone remembers yogi .. a prolific hitter of distance .. with this technique

[@gerrycollins6937]

Does this work for irons as well?

[@archheel1]

Great video and spot-on. The only dissent I have is w/ the idea prevalent in the comments is the notion of "keeping arms in front of chest". I'm a one planer, so for this move to work for me, I have to keep the right elbow up and behind me to initiate this move correctly. If the right elbow gets in front of the right hip, there's no way to tip the shift out, or "tumble". Totally realize this might be a semantic issue, as real vs. feel comes into play alot in the swing. Bottomline, feel that butt of the club turning down into the trail hip, and tumble while your body turns. Straight, high, far.

[@고삼열]

Excellent Explanation!!! I got it. Really good teacher.

[@Inmotion70]

Excellent!

[@joshlynch5676]

This is perfect. I feel like with modern golf instruction you have EVERY SINGLE amateur trying to create a swing with their arms stuck behind them it seems. People need to stop worrying about rotating so hard that they leave the hands and arms behind.

[@filamcouple_teamalleiah8479]

My mom taught me how to play golf. One of the things she encouraged me to do was throw the club at the ball and on short shots at the pin. I started when I was 11 and by the age of 13 I broke par for the first time from the men's tees on a course over 7,000 yds. Won a whole bunch of junior tournaments even though I was a small kid. I got mired in swing theory and it ruined whatever natural talent I had for the game. After playing college golf for three years gave it up. Later tried to resurrect it but injured my left rotator cuff in the Philippine Open- that sealed my end...resurrections seldom if ever occur.

[@greatwhite3676]

I'm not buying it. I broke par at 14 on a reasonable course like 6400. NO WAY any of us were breaking par on a 7100 yard course.

[@filamcouple_teamalleiah8479]

@@greatwhite3676 I won the Phil Junior Am at 14 and represented Phil in the World Junior when I was 15 at Torrey Pines in San Diego. Shot 75 on the South Course. Also won the largest amateur tournament in Asia, the Fil-Am, at 18. It was played at John Hay in Baguio City. Won the World Collegiate, 3rd Div in 75 and finished 10th overall beating a bunch of 1st div players. Shot 75 at Carnoustie and 71 at the Queens Coursè and 80 at St. Andrews in typical British awful weather. Won the div by one stroke with a birdie on the last hole. Transferred to UofA but the wheels came off a year later. Met Jerry Pate at Alabama and played nine holes with him shortly before he won the Open at the Atlantic Club. Anyway, my coach at Alabama, Rheling, suggested I spend some time in the weight room one summer to get bigger. I went from about 130 to 142 in one summer. That was a disaster...lost it completely. Quit golf decided to focus on academics and completed a degree in biology in 79. That's pretty much it except for a later attempt to resurrect game after grad school. Luckily, the degree in bio paved a way for me to make a career as a science teacher otherwise I'd of ended up an asst pro somewhere giving golf lessons. I also won the Clark Open and the Subic Bay Open as a junior. In those days I could get it up and down from a ball washer. But whatever you think Austin is correct and the science proves it. The intention to smash that damn ball pretty early in the downswing has to be there or you won't hit it out of your shadow. I also know that trying to retain lag is a ticket to pain and suffering- you just can't do it consistently.

[@JezzaGaux]

Sureeeeee U did 🤣😂

[@greatwhite3676]

@@noomade US. As in good junior golfers. I’m good now but I was great back then. Breaking par on a 7200 course no way. On a 6200 course sure.

[@tomnelson8515]

@@filamcouple_teamalleiah8479 I have been coaching (mostly juniors) for over 15 years now. I agree that trying to 'teach' lag (or even worse, shallowing) ends up a disaster. I have had instructors try to do this to a few of my students and it ruined them.

[@daryldebruyn449]

Tried it today, great. I have followed jim hardy a bit. Could not understa d his twist and throw motion. Think i do now. Thx

[@Inmotion70]

Glad it helped

[@southpawjohnny5969]

@Steve Pratt Golf Hi Steve, first of all great concept and priceless tip. After reading a lot of these comments I can see most can't see the gold in this video. One quick question... how would you most consistently work the ball with this? Just club head set up? Thanks

[@jonschwartz390]

if you're doing it right should it feel like a free-wheeling, weightlessness in the hands thru impact?

[@Inmotion70]

Completely agree. You'll get weightlessness only if your hand path is really good.

[@benambler1393]

Steve, subscribed and watch your videos all the time. Really been working on the supple quickness and the soft wrists and grip. Shot my best round ever, a 90 this past weekend. Since watching your videos I have dropped about 10 strokes. Still a lot of room for improvement and I still have a tendency to grip too tightly, but every inch gets me closer to the destination. I have just one suggestion or maybe it is a request, would you be able to set your camera closer to you? Always feels like I'm 20' from where you are standing and I think it would help if we could see your movements a bit closer. Appreciate all the great content.

[@Inmotion70]

OK will do.

[@paullazarus790]

Steve, thanks for all these golf videos, they've helped me so much!

[@Inmotion70]

Glad to help!

[@robocop30301]

Good stuff here. Been working more of this into my swing with good results.

[@norbertdrust9009]

Yep, this video is true! The club has to come down with a type of throw or cast

[@brucew5120]

That’s exactly what I’ve been looking for, a sort of bigger circle put more power on the club head. Does this work on the irons as well?

[@Inmotion70]

Yes.

[@brucew5120]

@@Inmotion70 Thanks Steve!

[@ronwinter614]

great job steve I agree with you

[@blitzd13]

If doing this correctly where is the club swoosh happening?

[@MrAbrazor]

You are right!

[@philipholloway8687]

Thanks Steve. My game has really moved on since watching your videos

[@Inmotion70]

Glad to hear it! Thanks so much for watching.

[@chrissmith9135]

Steve I think you should look at the Overhand golf channel ,he has similar teaching but focuses on the club shaft just below the grip and what it does...during every good golfers' swing

[@Inmotion70]

The mid hands point is the key.

[@pphomsoupha]

I'm the same way. I have to start early to tumble and square up my clubface. The longer the club, the earlier for me. Smart, good video

[@BlackjackCZ]

Malaska is similar in his teaching. Handle in clubhead out from the top.

[@harleyholohan1]

How come every time I do is move I hit it way to high with no compression. I suffer from pulling the handle witch causes massive blocks. Especially with driver. Pls clarify what I’m doing wrong. I should probably add I am a scratch golfer, so I do have some ability

[@Inmotion70]

Because you were pulling the handle it was likely that your turn and/or pivot would stall, or worse, hang back, to accommodate the pull. Instinctually I bet you felt like if you really drove the body hard you'd block it worse? Once you get better at this throw move you will be able to get back to better sequencing. Can be a 2 step process. Send me a face on video to [e-mail] and I'll be happy to take a peek.

[@mpcatch]

Malaska has been talking about this for years. “Over the top from the inside” I believe is how he phrases it.

[@Carsonsimon]

Hands go down, club comes out...👌 I feel it slightly differently to how he describes. To me its more of a trail hand overtaking the lead hand feeling. Swing feels really long and flowing through the ball instead of a rushed flip at the bottom.

[@mpcatch]

@@Carsonsimon love that! All about whatever works for you. I have no problem getting my right hand to take over...still looking for my swing thought that works Lolol :/

[@stevegallagher9541]

I keep coming back to try this as I love the feel, but I find I get too much spin/too high, for example with PW I normally launch 21 degrees, but with this it’s up at 24-25 degrees.

[@Inmotion70]

Not enough forward lean, which means if you are releasing exactly like this, then you aren't shifting and turning enough.

[@stevegallagher9541]

Got it, thanks, stay down a little longer and release down more than up also seems to work

[@tig954692]

Best lesson ever! Thanks!!

[@Inmotion70]

Very welcome!

[@johnt6810]

When I try this tumble, my thumbs are feeling really engaged. To the point where they feel a bit sore after taking a bunch of swings. Do the thumbs play a role in starting the tumble or am I doing it wrong. Usually my thumbs dont do much, but now they feel they are used a lot in transition.

[@Inmotion70]

The thumbs don't have to push hard at all if the hand path is good.

[@johnt6810]

@@Inmotion70 It seems like the clubhead wont tumble by hand path alone that I can figure out. Something has to send that clubhead tumbling.

[@Golfzilla70]

great vid, and i know it's not your first time articulating this. I remember way back a few years ago I was concerned that i was "casting" the club, and i bought a book by long drive champ Sean Fister, and somewhere in that thing he mentioned that you "had to cast" just to get speed. Which at least made me feel better, because i sure as heck couldn't do that lag business that everyone was yammering about on KZbin. Then I found your channel sometime later, and you had came out with a video a explaining it in even better detail (after that, i'm fairly certain my body was just being late on the rotation). That's helped, and even though i still don't have a good enough attack angle, at least i'm not chasing some crazy crap anymore. But i wouldn't mind sending you a vid to look at my swing and give it some thought

[@Inmotion70]

Please do.

[@caseymcadam23]

Steve could you explain your foot work. I noticed that the left foot rotates down the line.

[@wimbrow1]

i love the "malaska move" too

[@jimeye77]

Steve - I was taught to pull the butt end to the ball. Not good. I tried think your release but could not do it early enough. However if I thought “swish the club” from the top, I hit it perfect with more distance. It seems to me to be accomplishing what you want us to do. Do you have a problem with the swish from the top? I want to practice what will help me hit it longer and farther. Thanks Steve. Jim

[@Inmotion70]

Swish from the top is your feel or perception. If the ball flight is good then keep doing it.

[@jimeye77]

@@Inmotion70 Perfect! Thanks Steve. Love your videos. Keep ‘em coming!! Jim

[@leonray6511]

Steve, how does this move reconcile with your lesson on maintaining the “7-position “? This seems to be an earlier release of the club than the 7 method, at least to me…I am certainly aware there are more than one way to swing the club..heck I do that on most golf swings! If this is just a different method, it’s certainly one I will give a try. Thanks for your friendly instruction.

[@artsmith7918]

If I may be so bold, the seven is maintained via the turn of the body while you release the hands as you begin the downswing. Look at the position of Steve’s left arm in relation to his body as he demonstrates the early throw (where the club is fully released at about neck height), and you will see that the seven is maintained.

[@Inmotion70]

Very nicely put.

[@phantom_60]

This move is similar to your wrist flip around a pole video? Sorry if that is a little vague. It was a while back. The pole (may have been a pipe actually) may have been a shade post support I believe, if that helps.

[@Inmotion70]

Yes it is exactly the same, just done on a horizontal plane. I've been teaching that for years and years, long before the modern scientists proved it. Mike Austin wrote about it in 1946.

[@Larry-d3i]

Eric Cogorno had a man who is teaching golf at Pebble Beach on his KZbin channel saying this same thing, He gets the club back in line with the front arm ( He feels) about halfway down and turns his body. I tried it but it didn't work for me.

[@qtskimsales440]

Now I'm confused 😜 At 6:58 it has you in the exact position you advocate against. i dont see any tumble move.In my opinion this is just semantics as the downswing is so quick, there is no time to think about a tumble or holdoff. it may feel like a tumble but it looks like a holdoff

[@Inmotion70]

"Looks like." A fish swimming against a strong current 'looks like' he's static. Does this mean it's not trying?

[@nextbounce1724]

Steve, please show how to bring it through the ball. Forward shaft lean? How do you coordinate the pivot? It seems that knowing which part of the clubhead circle and shaft lean to bring through the ball is an anchor for consistency.

[@Inmotion70]

This motion kind of goes together with the 'swoosh out in front' exercise I do with the Speed Whoosh. The torque still starts way back but now the pivot causes the angular response to be at least 30 inches out front.

[@nextbounce1724]

@@Inmotion70 Yes, focusing on the swoosh out front trains the handle path for the desired ball contact. Thanks.

[@rollorescue1582]

One of the challenges is that when you look at it in slower speed, the positions are the same as any good golf teacher would recommend (in terms of hands and what not) when also teaching the concept of "holding the lag". This can manifest as teaching to get those >90's up top and 90s to 120's at parallel to the ground, but it comes across as holding the wrist angles instead of holding the forearm rotation. What this is showing SEEMS like it flies in the face of the concept of holding lag (which is overtaught as it is) when in reality the two ideas, when correctly conveyed, are complimentary. You can "flick" the wrists through the course of the swing and work through proper forearm rotation and achieve both ideals. There is a reason the swing look the same when teaching either approach, it's just understanding what is working biomechanically and not holding so tightly to one or the other incomplete approach. Long hitters aren't "holding the lag", they are generating clubhead speed through the technic shown here while rotating the torso and the forearms correctly to put the club in the correct location on a repeatable, consistent swing.

[@steveng8727]

Tiger keeps saying his swing is a right handed 'throw', or as Paddy Harrington says 'you gotta TROW it' !

[@imuawarriors]

what do you think of those 'lag shot' training clubs?

[@Inmotion70]

I think they are ok.

[@imuawarriors]

@@Inmotion70I already have the Speed Whoosh, which is really helping me, but having the Lag Shot is intriguing, since you can hit balls...

[@Inmotion70]

@@imuawarriors I think the feeling of getting rid of the lag would be good.

[@imuawarriors]

@@Inmotion70 is that what the Lag Shot is training someone to do?

[@FD-nz7qv]

Another thing I noticed is when I release from the top of my backswing, it subconsciously promotes my hip turn.

[@nickd2509]

Happened across your video and I would just like to add that a certain Dalton McCrary was teaching this as part of his ' Straight Shooting' golf teaching system.

[@ruatoomey9107]

Interesting. As someone who hits a lot of snap hooks, I know I don’t move my lower body correctly. Does that mean I already have the tumble in my swing and just need to focus on the weight transfer and follow through.

[@Inmotion70]

That's the best place to start. Make sure you aren't EE with a bad hand path.

[@ruatoomey9107]

@@Inmotion70 I'm unsure of the difference between a good and bad hand path, do you have a video of this. EE is probably my main fault. Thanks for your help.

[@nokia5359]

@@ruatoomey9107 what is "EE"? Please clue us newbies in. Thank YOU.

[@ruatoomey9107]

@@nokia5359 early extension, getting your trail hip too close to the ball in the downswing causing a blocked shot a lot of the time

[@nikadgod5152]

I've been using that swing naturally for years. It all depends on the firing of the hips and pronation of the hands. If they don't work in tandem it's a recipe for massive slices and smothered hooks. It's not an easily repeatable swing which is why it's never been recommended much. Repetition also wins championships and a consistent swing is critical

[@nokia5359]

This concept can be probed and proved by a half swing from parallel to parallel or an L2L swing, no?

[@Inmotion70]

Yes.

[@jfvezina3458]

What pga tour pro 6 time winner is doing that ?

[@Inmotion70]

As Brian states, its a pretty generic tour swing which means they ALL are doing that move.

[@chris2513-cc]

So, you are not going to answer this simple question that would allow us to review this PGA professional’s swing for ourselves?

[@nokia5359]

@@chris2513-cc i thought he did? Lee Trevino, sam snead, Arnold/Jack...

[@creamabdul-jabbar6722]

Ill give this a try, tried everything so far and nothing works actually makes everything worse. The teaching is always oh fix the slice by doing the things that are going to cause a duck hook. Atleast when I sliced I knew what was coming and could play it. Now I’m hitting every shot a hook a fade a draw a slice and feel like I do the same thing every time and have no clue where that ball is going to end up. Got my muscle memory out of the slice all the time habit but I’d rather have 1 miss then 8

[@hock-soonlee8169]

Hi Steve, Thank you for demystifying what my body was instinctivley doing with my 5-wood for the past 20+ years. For some reason, my 5-wood never lets me down and I always get a clean shot, but I just don't know why. But that's golf isn't it? Do something wrong, we don't know why; do something right, we also don't know why. All I knew was that my 5-wood shaft looked rather frail and since I needed to hit the ball off the ground, I dared not use force, in case I should break the club. As a result, my body instinctively morphed my gentle swing into the tumble swing. Unfortunately, I couldn't clone the tumble swing onto my other clubs for so many years, because I haven't seen your video yet. Now that I have seen your video, I know how to clone it. Thank you very much! 😅😂🤣

[@e99783]

When I try this, the club throw pulls me strongly away from the target

[@John-wx9oy]

This is the predication behind Marcus Edblad's "circle of speed".

[@forrestgardener8906]

I think the problem is one of feel v real. Getting the club moving most certainly requires the force you demonstrate (feel). But you will not see any uncocking on video in that part of the swing (real). If you do see uncocking then there is a problem with your body movement.

[@Inmotion70]

That is correct. If you actually see early uncocking on video, you're not moving your body enough.

[@williamthomas2812]

I find it difficult to release from top AND get the swish 2 feet forward of impact.

[@mmike76]

Stop the swing at 6:45 and 6:58 right when the hands are approaching the right leg on the downswing and the club is nearly parallel to the ground. Your club face is straight up and down and has only begun to close. You still have tons of "lag". It appears your still too much on your right side that you never recover from. this all happens in 1/4 of a second so what you think is happening isn't proven by your swing at this point in time. Only saying, check it out for yourself. On repeated viewing the timing device isn't that accurate, 1/4 of a second the swing is over so reference hand position is more accurate. the club face is still wide open when your hands (note the watch) is belt high. I just don't see what your saying is happening in your swing. sorry

[@Inmotion70]

I'm sorry you're still stuck in the matrix and can't see. Appearance of lag does not equal forces being applied.

[@JDB4197]

Was listening to a Long Drive guy from the 90's, they asked him what "feels" powerful to him, he responded he felt like he was throwing away the angle as soon as possible after initiating the downswing.

[@Inmotion70]

Sounds like Sean Fister.

[@briggsc4]

I'm certainly not much of a golfer just been hitting at the driving range, hadn't done so in decades, and I'm striking the ball consistently with a carry over 275 yards. I swing with emphasis on the downswing and creating speed behind me, I played baseball for decades and the principle is the same and comes somewhat naturally to me, my friends who golf regularly are confused at how I'm able to drive the ball but I know why.

[@hbyrdut]

Monte Scheinblum, ex-long driver, teaches something similar. I believe he teaches to cast the club from the top as hard as you can.

[@Inmotion70]

I know Monte well.

[@samscarpaci5156]

Ripping it!!!

[@nicholasdemetriades9154]

100% true. My best shots arms/wrists relaxed. Right buttocks pushing back I to heel

[@Carsonsimon]

To be fair... The mans speaking the truth...I found it through Malaska like a few other people... Went down the range a few times to practice it...handicap dropped from 18 to 11 Went from shooting 90+ games with a slice to low to mid 80's pretty much within a week, now with a draw, bad shots now a hook if I stall my body out to soon.

[@kevinromangolf]

It’s amazing how many people like Brian criticized for years Hall of Fame instructor Jim Hardy who has taught this from the 80’s and now switch sides and try to take credit for what was taught a long time ago. It was done and taught by Wild Bill Melhorn who Hogan said was the greatest striker of the ball ever. Amazing how far behind most instructors are and then rename what other taught for years. The Malaska move, the tumble! 🙄😂🤣🤣 Jim Hardy explained these releases years ago has a book on understanding the throw release Hogan, Snead, Duval(who learned from JH) along with an outer release ala Justin Thomas . It’s great to see guys like Steve realizing the truths and sharing them but give credit where it’s truly due, not the criticizes turned so called inventors.

[@Inmotion70]

I've been teaching this move for 30 years. I was alone in the wilderness for quite awhile. And Jim Hardy didn't KNOW for sure...he was making a well educated guess. And he was right. Scientific measurement took a long time to catch up, but now it has, and now we know for certain what is happening.

[@lookmil107]

@@Inmotion70 …..I salute you SIR. How you deal with these LAG morons on a daily basis blows my mind. Now I just encourage these idiots to increase their LAG as much as possible. Hey, we play $50 and up Nassau’s here in the MET Section. Yea, I’m that guy-Let them eat LAG cake! 😎

[@GRFlashback]

I don't know enough about the golf swing to know whether this is right, or if the guys who tell golfers to maintain the lag are correct. However, I do know that, for myself, trying to maintain a lag in my swing is just not going to happen. I can't do it, and even if I could, trying to time it is way, way above my abilities.

[@Inmotion70]

Throw the clubhead!

[@GRFlashback]

@@Inmotion70 Thank you Steve. I'm working on it.

[@francophillips2156]

I think "lag" is done by keeping the #7 position until the ball is hit. Keeping your body pulling the arms and not your arms getting ahead of the pivot.

[@swisstrader]

Strange but I took lessons from Manzella (3 full days) and not a single mention of this move.

[@Inmotion70]

How long ago?

[@swisstrader]

@@Inmotion70 to be fair, it was a few years ago

[@todddavis5433]

One and roll...straight shootin golf from the 90's

[@anthonylennen4067]

The modern theory about a bowed left wrist and massive rotation works great if you are under thirty and have college level athleticism. That's why 99.7% of us don't improve and why these alternative theories/instruction are so important. I play w a lot of young guys who hit it off the earth, but they are terrible wedge/iron players.

[@ericdumont610]

If you go on a site Greg Hanson, he shows you in great detail why the top pros in the game maintain the age in their wrists until their left hands reach about the left leg, Stack and Tilt does the same , never let go of the angles my friend, look at a slow mo of Dustin hitting a driver , angle of his right hand has not let go .

[@Inmotion70]

Even Dustin Johnson is doing the move I showed. You're getting fooled by the kinematics. Just because his right hand has not let go does not mean he's not applying MASSIVE torque to the grip with it to straighten it out.

[@ericdumont610]

@@Inmotion70 what nonsense, all of them hold the angle in their wrists, its been a proven fact that as soon as lose your angles from the top you lose speed, I play off a +3 so I know what I'm talking about, you do it for a marketing ploy.

[@patmiller1762]

I am kinda confused. This doesn't look like the Mike Austin release. Am I missing something

[@Inmotion70]

Of course it is.

[@jpbouffard]

Just because they measure torque, it doesn’t necessarily follow that the golfer is trying to throw the club head from the top. The club was just swung back! Simple physics dictates that the golfer MUST exert a torque counter to the backswing motion or the club will fly out of his hand and continue swinging back. It’s a reactive torque, that we all exert to reverse the club’s momentum so it can be swung back toward the ball

[@sisport_01]

You can never release the club to early .. if you weight is on your left side #jacknicklaus #goat move #malaska golf

[@goforitkids]

Steve, that move puts a tremendous amount of pressure on your back and moreso your left foot and ankle (slow your swing down). You're a strong guy but the avg golfer will injure themselves with that method. Do you think Tiger, Nicklaus, or Trevino would agree with casting the club? All of them in their primes were holders, per Trevino. They maintained loft with the face, not adding loft.

[@Inmotion70]

No they actually all did this exact move. Did you watch the whole video? THIS. IS. WHAT. EVERY. GREAT. GOLFER. DOES.

[@goforitkids]

@@Inmotion70 How about we agree to disagree? I taught for DLGA, for Phil Rodgers, and worked individually with Lee Trevino on my game three separate times. Thus, I respect your viewpoint but disagree.

[@lookmil107]

@@goforitkids ….You are 100% correct. If anything you want to increase your LAG as much as possible…..LOLOL!!!

[@ericdumont610]

@@goforitkids I fully agree with you, it is very evident that the great players hold the angle in their wrists, as I mentioned earlier i play off a plus 3 and I think I know a little about the swing after playing golf for 35 years, trial and error, there are countless ways of swinging a golf club, dont be fooled with some of these KZbin instructors, I know Steve means well.

[@goforitkids]

@@ericdumont610 That's correct E! Watch Steve's swing, especially his footwork. By casting the club so early he has to drive his right knee forward so much that he actually he gets out of balance just post impact. In order to regain it he has to reestablish his right foot by kicking it back close to the finish. Thus, he puts undue stress on his back as will most golfers with this method. What do you think his clubface is doing as a result, and will he effectively control his flat spot and loft?

[@mtarlo215]

Is this much different from the L to L? Seems like a similar concept

[@Inmotion70]

Hmm not quite.

[@Frankiep72]

Great video! You are still shallowing the shaft with this swing move, correct?

[@Inmotion70]

That is correct. Keep in mind several sources shallow the shaft.

[@spakuloid]

There are all these videos out now saying that you have to hold the right wrist back - bow lead wrist through impact to compress - and release after impact. Cogorno has a new video with a new wrist trainer all about it. Why is there so much difference when it comes to these two methods?

[@Inmotion70]

While it may look like they are, pros are actually moving in the opposite direction with both wrists. However, it's a feel some golfers needs more of.

[@spakuloid]

@@Inmotion70 Can you do a video on this?

[@John-wg1jh]

Stevo. Is it the same for every club. Thanks.

[@Inmotion70]

Yes.

[@gilbertlui820]

Nice data, but where is the clubhead speed data? I noticed it's not shown

[@Inmotion70]

I believe it was 116 or 117 on that particular shot.

[@petermartinaitis8166]

Dalton McCrary was teaching this decades ago in his straight shooting videos.

[@ernestscarrizales288]

David Duval perfected it.