The Creepiest Cases of People Disappearing

[@fabiola4166]

To be fair to clint: even if i were completely innocent, if the police asks me to take a polygraph I'm getting a lawyer, it sounds like they are thinking I'm the culprit

[@mbryson2899]

Absolutely true.

[@MGJDMNJ]

Yup. Asking for a lawyer isn’t an admission of guilt

[@meredithgrubb4497]

Absolutely. It's ur right to do so and the smart thing, in my opinion, to do.

[@MattCarvin]

Specifically if they’re asking you to do a polygraph too, because they’re already playing dirty at that point.

[@insufferableMAYNARDfan]

Pseudo science. Never do a lie detector test.

[@scalpingsnake]

The first story, if you have any idea about how bad lie detector tests are, then it makes sense to lawyer up as soon as you are asked to take one. Even with being completely innocent.

[@mbryson2899]

Very, very true.

[@Visiopod]

It makes sense to lawyer up regardless, as the job of the police is to get their suspects to admit to the crimes they're accused of.

[@poponachtschnecke]

Yeah, "lie detector" is a misnomer.

[@frisk151]

Lie detectors only work on people who are scared and shaken up.. They are more of a tool law enforcement uses to try and rattle suspects and tarnish them in the press. I once lied through my teeth, trying to make myself shake or trip it up, by way of a friend in law enforcement - as a baseline test for the department.. I blatantly lied (and my friend knew it, but the examiner didn't know me from atom).. GOOD detectives will never eliminate or even lessen their suspicion if someone who "passes" a "lie detector" testing, or multiples passes with flying colors.. IF they do, then they are amature at best..

[@Loralanthalas]

Cops are paid for arrests. DAs are paid for convictions. Jurors are instructed not to worry about "why" and to only worry if someone did something or not. Calling our legal system a "justice system" is propaganda.

[@poponachtschnecke]

Nothing weird about not wanting to take a polygraph! At that point, cops are just trying to get you to confess.

[@meese9140]

Polygraphs are not admissible in court because they don’t work and you should never take one.

[@Loralanthalas]

Literally. They don't ask for polygraph be cause they think your a sweet innocent flower.

[@julierobinson3633]

Exactly, a polygraph wont garner new information, just confirm hew nervous you are while telling them the same things.

[@Him_He_Me]

They're not admissable in court so what's the point

[@micktompson101]

@@Him_He_Methe point is to confirm investigators suspicions. Nothing more.

[@claretravels783]

The frog boys case is so sad. I feel for their parents, especially as they basically poured all their money into the search and then years later lost every attempt to sue for clear police negligence...I can't imagine how horribly that must have affected their lives. Also sounds way, way sus on the military base. Even if the whole base wasn't in on it, at least one coward knows what happened.

[@bradsanders407]

How was there clear police negligence? And how did that cost them their lives?

[@ashleybrooke2087]

All that evidence is circumstantial but definitely points in a specific direction. Those boys didn't bury themselves down range from a military shooting range. The worst part of it is that, if someone in the military was likely involved, the facts of what happened would be completely covered up by institutional silence. The truth of what happened to them is buried more completely & deeply than their bodies were.

[@TurkishToprak]

@@ashleybrooke2087 nobody thinks about the choas of the election day, days like that are perfect to commit crimes. all sane people are home with their families

[@Armagedolyte]

@@bradsanders407 Did you even pay attention to the story? The part where the parents called the police and reported them as missing and the bastards wrote them off as runaways and dismissed them without conducting an investigation first?

[@Kwauhn.]

It really does sound like someone on the base killed the boys, and either the perpetrator silenced the police, or someone above them. SK was full of corruption back then, so it wouldn't surprise me.

[@ripvanwinkle2002]

feel bad for Derek.. losing your whole family in a short time is nearly impossible to process in a healthy way.

[@Cruor34]

Some people aren't over emotional. I get along with my dad but I am not close to my other family at all. I do not wish harm on them but if the others died from a tree falling on them or in a car accident, I'd be over it in about 5 minutes. Even if you do love them being depressed/crying over something you can't change does nothing. He was an adult, his mom died. It was always going to happen in his life be it 20's or 50's. Get over it.

[@ripvanwinkle2002]

@@Cruor34 you started out saying essentially you dont really care about your family then you attack people who do.. well thanks for joining the discussion. much learned. valued insight im sure..

[@hunterg.1300]

@@Cruor34 Most people with healthy relationships value their families and would mourn them if they were lost. It's not being "over emotional," is responding the only way they can. And I'm sorry, but the argument of "mourning does nothing to bring them back, so stop," has got to be the stupidest argument against an emotional response I have ever heard. If someone loses somebody they love dearly, they can't just tell their emotions to "stop". Not to mention that, as painful as the process of mourning is, it is ultimately healthy for the individual. Shoving the emotions down and trying to "get over it" is mentally and emotionally exhausting and does not do the person any good.

[@Cruor34]

@@ripvanwinkle2002 You started out by saying it's impossible to process the death of a family member in a short time in a healthy way. Meaning, if you can deal with it, you must have something wrong with you. Some people are over emotional, some aren't. When my grandfather died in Florida, (about 20 years ago) we went to the funeral. Myself, my dad, his brothers and my cousins. We did the funeral in the morning, and then went back to the hotel changed and went right off to Universal Studios Florida an hour away. cousins/uncles too. Every male in my family is tough emotionally. Why sit around crying when you can enjoy life? Who do you think has it better? Over emotional people or people who can get on with life? I know who I'd rather be.

[@ripvanwinkle2002]

@@Cruor34 you dont care for your family, you said so. there is already something wrong with you. you are not the default, you are the outlier, hence irrelevant to this. the fact at least 350 people so far agree with me and only you and personal demons agree with you... proof is in the pudding kiddo.

[@SevenGC89]

Wow... whoever pranked the parents pretending to be one of the missing children is pure evil man...I can't even imagine the feelings going through those poor parents.

[@meredithgrubb4497]

It's so messed up. I can't see what would make anybody decide to do that. It's pure evil.

[@fahhcue850]

@@meredithgrubb4497They just a troll who in reality should’ve been the one to pull a disappearing act.. 😏🤷🏻‍♂️

[@frisk151]

@@meredithgrubb4497 That is because you apparently aren't a sick sadistic monster! They actually get off on torturing in person and however else they can hurt people etc..

[@endtimesninja1235]

People are evil man. Sick.

[@rozsheehy6146]

Hopefully, most people would NOT find that funny. It's disgusting and definitely evil.

[@JimMilton-ej6zi]

Clint isn't guilty for wanting a lawyer, he's smart. Your mom could be missing and you'd still be best to not talk without a lawyer present. Cops don't want your help, they want to see if you're guilty, and no matter how innocent or truthful you are, they're still there to get you to confess, not to see what you know. There was one story awhile back of a guy that confessed to harming his father because the police manipulated him into confessing under the guise of coming to him for help. His father was actually alive and the police just manipulated him until he broke down, even bringing his dog in there telling him they'll put him down if he doesn't confess, that's the people who clint lawyered up from.

[@leigha2814]

To be fair, if your ma is missing you're more likely to be a suspect than most people are (other than her partner). But the best advice is never to talk to cops without a lawyer. In a neutral environment cops will tell you that, too. I personally think Clint was protecting Brian who ran away, but even so, that doesn't mean the cops wouldn't make him look worse.

[@BearsLOLOLOL]

Cops are allowed to lie I’m not talking period without a lawyer. Definately not our friends, they talk and act like they are but want an easy case and will pretend they want to help you. It’s discussing to listen and watch them, the lies that come out of their months. And that good cop bad cop crap. Never trust them, they will bury you

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

And thats how you know how shity our society is, no honor in those who should uphold law and order....

[@Roobitz]

It's not unusual to refuse a polygraph test, since those are pseudoscientific nonsense, and that dude was smart to lawyer up.

[@ZAXT0N]

Well, the readings they take are real but there’s no guarantee that what it’s reading is a lie. But if you ignore the test results entirely, it will always be more suspicious to refuse a polygraph than it would be to take it.

[@egodragonvm663]

They actually aren’t very accurate either and I believe a different Crime channel said that they wouldn’t hold up in court as evidence,false positives false negatives it’s not that suspicious as media makes it seem😅

[@nexaentertainment2764]

I believe they're somewhere around 60% accuracy iirc? So basically like a weighted coinflip. And you wanna know why they're even above 50/50? Purely the skill of the human interviewer. 90% of the polygraphs effectiveness is as a prop for the interviewer to use and scare people with. They don't work, and an interviewer can flag literally anything they want as a "tell" to manipulate the result.

[@bigbay1159]

@@egodragonvm663 They aren't accurate at all...a plant can trigger a "lie"

[@bigbay1159]

@@nexaentertainment2764 That 60% is nonsense as stated, and you are right its the person themselves that is the "lie detector" the creator of the device denounced the device he made as its complete farce.

[@ozzieperkins8672]

These cases always really put the disappear in disappearance. The first case reminded me of the video where the DJ got stuck behind the false wall in the club basement, hopefully they checked the bar thoroughly. Great vid as always!

[@kommo1]

Gad the same thought, the moment he mentioned the construction site next door.

[@meredithgrubb4497]

This is almost exactly what I think happened to him. I think he is wedged in a very tight crevice. It would also keep the smell of decomp from being as noticeable as well.

[@kspen6110]

I'm thinking similar thoughts. Perhaps they should investigate the bar and construction zones more thoroughly.

[@littlebear274]

This is the general consensus on what happened. He somehow accidentally ended up in the construction zone and is somewhere there.

[@jwelda1]

When he mentions foul play and getting the body out without being seen, I’m like what makes you think he ever left? In fact he could have been lured to that specific bar because his friend, restaurant staff, or a combination thereof killed him and dissolved his body. Hopefully they actually searched the bar, the piping, grease storage etc much more extensively than this video would lead you to believe.

[@thecinematicexperience420]

These -no explanation- disappearance stories drive me crazy. I get frustrated when I can't find an inanimate object in my home. It's like how does a whole person with hopes, dreams, loved ones, etc. just vanish?

[@sunnystormy4973]

-ikr ... !-

[@toweypat]

Me, too. I've had things disappear then turn up in the absolute last place I would have expected. So God only knows where a lost human being could end up.

[@PrimateProductions]

Me too! Amd then when I see a case where it was seemingly the same....where there didn't seem to be ant reasonable explanation but then the whole thing is later unraveled and whatever happened to them is something that never would have been guessed and it shocks everyone it bothers me even more to try to figure out what might have happened in these other cases that we are all still so clueless about. (Does that make sense?)

[@nexaentertainment2764]

If there's no organized crime involvement, usually they end up at the bottom of some ventilation shaft to be found 30 years later when someone goes down there. Especially if they're drunk. There was the case of the one dude who died in the walls of a very popular club and wasn't found for weeks. And iirc that guy was sober. If it was foul play, if there are 0 clues, they could be anywhere on the planet. Probably at the bottom of a lake or remote woods. But yeah my guess is on them dying in some weird hard to access spot.

[@slimfit767]

They get killed,thats how.

[@littlemissgwendolen1466]

Disappearances are somehow more terrifying than true crime. When people disappear, there’s almost never a conclusion.

[@HercadosP]

Especially when the military/police is behind it

[@bast4rdlyreaper]

There's a couple of maps that I've seen paired up together, one is a map of the USA of Missing without a trace, and the second map is of the large cave systems in the USA, and they line up outstandingly similar.

[@ifyourmarriedyourasimpandacuck]

​@@bast4rdlyreapermy favorite video on KZbin, is the one of the guy putting his ice pick into what seems like a small hole, and it goes up to his shoulder and he's still not touching the bottom, it could be a 100m hole for all we know. You'd fall in and never touch the bottom, while never resurfacing to the top.

[@Loralanthalas]

It actually almost always that they return. #1 excuse for cops not doing dick when people are reported missing and why they want YOU to bring THEM 'evidence of a crime' before the unsupervised government workers will do their jobs.

[@PetarPopara]

Very much so. Crime has to do with evil humans--unfortunately, by no means in short supply. Unlike it, disappearance gnaws at our metaphysical beliefs, which are more deeply seated.

[@Think_About_It_7]

I’m from Columbus, and Brian Shaffer case is still talked about. I was also an Ohio State University medical student in 2006 and knew him (only through classes we had together), and his disappearance was a hot topic for years. Thanks for covering this story.

[@Mr.MFuckingYTchangedmyname]

And what's your theory? I tend to find that these missing cases seem to have an element that locals/friends know, but are either too scared, or told not to ever bring up - like, perhaps, a club owner who everyone "knows" is dodgy, but has really good lawyers, so nobody ever publicly ties him to any case. What are we not being told?

[@lorij3786]

I remember hearing about his case back then and then again in 2010 on a channel similar to this, actually 3 of the true life crime/disappearances/weird occurrence KZbin channels I used to watch back then.. I hope some day some information comes forward

[@jeffwarren6906]

I hope you finished medical school & have become a successful Doctor . It is sad that Brian wasn't able to do the same . I wish you continued success in your career @EasyGoing

[@viceiceman85]

Did you have something to do with it? Come clean old man!

[@Utubesanarc]

Its plain to see he was murdered. His friend might have had something to do with it ​@@lorij3786

[@iansob95]

I wonder if the first case has a simular ending to one of the earlier cases you covered where the guy accidently squeezed himself between two walls.

[@Balrog-tf3bg]

If it’s the case I’m thinking of I feel that’s a possibility, or perhaps he got thrown in a dumpster somehow before anyone realize what was going on

[@chrisdowning6396]

Omg.. I was kinda thinking that same thing though....

[@NotMorganFreeman.]

This reminds me of another missing person case. What happened was the guy (kid I think) broke into a grocery store where he worked, or previously worked at to rob it, and got stuck behind a freezer and died and wasn't discovered until over a year later.

[@squarebear619]

​@NotMorganFreeman. Why you lied and added he was going to rob is disgusting and not true. It was a place where the employees would hang out. He had a mental break and ran out of his home without shoes, his wallet, or being adequately clothed. He went up there to let off steam and fell headfirst through a small space in the back. The refrigerator fans were so loud that none would have been able to hear his cries. He wasn't discovered until a decade later once the store shutdown and was selling its entire merchandise including the industrial refrigerators.

[@NotMorganFreeman.]

@@squarebear619 Well if you read my comment it is pretty obvious that I couldn't remember exactly how the story went. I'm not sure why you are so offended by it though...

[@j.p.6932]

18:57 How cruel and insensitive do you have to be to pretend to be a missing 9 year old as a “prank”?

[@Visiopod]

While I have heard of all three stories before, the story of the frog boys is just a constant reminder how little the South Korean government cares about its children. The Sewol Ferry disaster is another great example of that and it makes it less odd how their birthrate is falling so hard. Who would want to get children, when those who should take care of them while their parents work and ensure their security, have zero interest in doing so?

[@bradsanders407]

How was the ferry accident the governments fault?!?! Sure they lied to the parents to keep them from showing up to the scene and trying to get inside a capsized ship. Its called a lie for the greater good. By the time rescue got their there was nothing that could be done but rescue those who made it out. The rest were doomed and anyone dumb enough to climb down in the ship would never have comeback out alive. The navy performed a test to see the viability of escaping a ship listed on its side and it took 8 grown men 18 minutes to get just one out of one room and if that person has anymore doorways to get through he's no less stuck then the rest of them.

[@kentario1610]

And the immense pressure put on children to be exceptional, resulting in the high suicide rate. I find it hard to be surprised such an "advanced" society has low birth rates.

[@emilyb5307]

​@bradsanders407 you're not very familiar with that incident, are you? The first rescue ship got there within half an hour. The coast guards there did nothing, kept civilian divers from doing their jobs, the top dogs at the government were AWOL for hours. There was a Japanese ship that offered aid in the area- they were refused. There was literally an American military ship there that offered over three times to assist because they had specialized search and rescue divers on board - they were refused. They were also refused when they tried to offer assistance recovering bodies. Survivors say they watched "rescuers" from the coast guard watch without helping as they tried to break windows and escape. The government wasted precious hours that lives could have been saved with. They also did nothing to stop or correct national news headlines falsely saying they rescued everyone.

[@sharongrigg5336]

​@@bradsanders407you obviously haven't done your research into this tragedy.. the south Korean government should hold their heads in shame, they lied not to protect the families but to protect their image. They have children's blood on their hands.

[@micadean1600]

@@bradsanders407you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.

[@faiyoake]

The police in South Korea just handled the frog boys case poorly from start to finish. Wonder if they were connected to the military base…

[@noi_den]

I think they were definitely covering for each other. It seems most likely that one of the boys got shot accidentally and the officer shooting at the range, either with help or alone, decided to cover up the evidence and get rid of the witnesses. It seems most likely the police would cover for the military and vice versa, in this situation and with that political climate.

[@roflewafe47]

The bullets found in the boys were the same they used at the base, at least according to this video.. So unless someone had access to these kinds of firearms, then someone on base most likely shot them. Either accidentally or intentionally. The absence or denial of an investigation on the military base probably means they did it.

[@catscanhavelittleasalami]

Yeah, military men shot them for a laugh and nothing was done because nobody wanted to lose their job.

[@hughmungus8340]

@@catscanhavelittleasalami Might have been ordered too, can never be sure honestly.

[@thatsmrharley2u2]

@@catscanhavelittleasalami Right. And after they killed the kids, they tossed in a bunch of live and spent ammo when they buried them. Gawd.

[@valkyriehutton4556]

Who sorts bones like that? I thought they were stupid, but then realized the cops didn't care.

[@ryaneylee]

it's rural small town cops. not surprised that there weren't more properly trained elites stationed there

[@aihsur]

@@ryaneyleeand south korean authority is notoriously horrible at handling cases with any sort of weight

[@MrZUNK]

i thought that as well but after i heard that neither the police nor the military conducted any investigation into the unknown shooter on the range who most certainly is the culprit it started to stink.

[@MONEYM723]

Yo this comment has me so got damn weak 😂😂😂😂😂 “Who sorts bones like that?” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

@@ryaneylee Small rural town in Asia is a city by global standards.

[@Jay-n262]

Brian's disappearance is the strangest and creepiest case I've ever heard. Especially after what happened to his family members.

[@emilyb5307]

Yeah. Obviously this was a summary, so I don't expect a deep dive- but I'd be curious to know if anything came of talking to bar staff or searching the saloon. I mean. He walked back in and no one has footage of him leaving again? Maybe he met an accident or something inside. But if so, and it's been years, how has no one found out....

[@aihsur]

@@emilyb5307from what i know the bar closed a few years ago and the new owners did a complete remodel, tore everything up and redid the entire place, nothing was found of brian. if you ask me the most likely case is he stumbled out the back entrance that was talked about and into the construction site, passed out drunk and honestly is still probably sealed somewhere in that construction

[@emilyb5307]

@@aihsur oh, thanks! Yeah, that does seem maybe the most likely. Tragic...

[@Laceration_Gravityyy]

@@aihsurbut wouldn’t the construction workers have found him?

[@thedeviouspanda]

​@@Laceration_GravityyyThey probably just show up and start pouring cement, whatever is in the hole is staying there.

[@shaun2222]

i remember when the first case happened, my brother worked at the ugly tuna as security, he was freaked out by it, it was very strange.

[@TurkishToprak]

what else did ur brother say? did he have any theories?

[@MsAdventure531]

Did they ever look under the elevator or behind the escalator??

[@imnahtcool]

Plot twist Your brother did it

[@Ron-d2s]

Did anyone ever double check the total count.... or were they looking for a GUY on the CCTV.... a wig and a skirt........... and TONS of makeup!

[@shaun2222]

@@imnahtcool i have always been suspicious of him, he is kinda weird.

[@LL-ys9cr]

I heard the story about Brian several times. The Ugly Tuna bar was going through construction at the time. I think Brian could have been intoxicated and wandered in a restricted area. If he wasn't intoxicated, he could have been murdered and his body was well hid in the construction area. I'm not sure if the construction area was checked thoroughly.

[@noi_den]

I think he definitely fell on the construction site, maybe in a pit, and the workers just didn't notice and continued construction like normal. I'm not sure if the site was investigated fully, but it is the simplest explanation, and the simplest explanation is usually the right one, at least most of the time. I don't think someone murdered him, I think it was an accident and it just wasn't investigated properly. Likely his body got covered in concrete after falling in a hole or something like that.

[@HeyLeFay]

@@noi_den Yep, it’s much more likely that the bar had an unsafe environment that led to a patron’s death rather than someone straight up murdering him for no reason. The phone connecting to a cell tower is still very strange though. I wonder if someone at the bar or construction area found his phone, kept it, and either never connected the dots or realized the significance later on but didn’t want to get involved.

[@Verbux]

@@HeyLeFay Maybe his phone ID was given to a new person?

[@chrisdowning6396]

🤔That does sound somewhat plausible though...

[@undrwrldsk8fred]

⁠​⁠@@Verbux not sure what you mean by “phone ID”. It sounds like his phone *number* was still in service, in which case they wouldn’t just assign it to a new user. His phone number remained active as his loved ones tried contacting it daily, and only once did it actually ring and ping that location.

[@Catherinzsl]

Great presentation, as always. About the police in the frog boys story - even if you're not a specialist forensic investigator, *who,* upon finding multiple skeletons, sorts them by bone type?!?!? It surprises me there weren't some additional homicides once the specialists arrived on scene and saw what had been done.

[@I.lik3.sp0t1fy]

Always a good day when scary interesting uploads

[@catcando1131]

I grew up on construction sites and I can tell you from experience, crazy shit can happen at them. If there was an open pit, Brian could have fallen in. If there was large amounts of debris, a body can easily be overlooked within it. I could go on and on but my break is over so I have to go back to work. 😢

[@bryttnitv]

I've seen the case covered by other channels though I can't remember every detail...I think they eventually got permission to dig up the area where he would have fallen? They might have also taken cadaver dogs down there. It was also a construction area inside of the building and not like a huge pit outside. It would have made a lot of sense but no remains were found. The Lore Lodge yt channel may have covered the case and Aiden is super thorough with his research on cases.

[@catcando1131]

@@bryttnitv If he had fallen into debris or wound up in a container meant for removal, he would not be found on site and if said container/debris was removed before decomposition began, no one would have been aware he was there.

[@ironfistgaming8945]

More power to you bro

[@dennisami]

Keep up the good work

[@stormcaster6793]

The other odd thing that happened on the Tom Messick case is that 2 FBI agents showed up without anyone calling them. FBI don’t usually get evolved in missing person cases unless it’s a child or a high profile case, which this was not. They showed up and talked to the wife for 5 minutes and claimed that after so many hours gone that he would be declared a missing person and then left. They never even talked to the police officers or anyone else who was doing the search and rescue. Very odd

[@bradsanders407]

Sounds like some embellished story

[@stormcaster6793]

@bradsanders407 I saw a small documentary on a lot of weird missing person cases, and they interviewed the wife and the top officer in charge of search and rescue for this case. The wife brought up the encounter with the fbi and didn't realize it was wierd until later and the officer said that he was told that the fbi were there, but that they never talked to any of the officers. They showed up, took some notes, talked to the wife, and then left.

[@laurenwilson9383]

He was in the military, perhaps he was part of a more secret part of the military and the FBI needed to document everything because of what he used to do/things he knew

[@JustineVWarrior]

It was an ufo abduction, that's why they were there

[@HotRod12667]

FBI is corrupt.

[@jsouth5577]

I always find the story of the Frog Boys so very sad. Kids being murdered always is going to be but - there were five of them. If you've ever tried to herd kids you know how difficult it can be if they don't want to do something. I'm always haunted by the idea that at least one of those boys probably could have escaped that fate if they'd all bolted - but they didn't because they didn't want to leave their friends.

[@chendaforest]

The first one has been covered extensively, apparently the CCTV surveillance to the front of the bar was only intermittent which would have allowed him to leave undetected. Though I remember the case, I think you featured, where some guy vanished in a club and eventually his body was found behind some dry wall he appeared to have accidentally fallen through or something. Maybe something similar happened at the construction site though you would have thought it all would have been thoroughly checked. And South Korean police seriously sucked. But it was a dictatorship so its not surprising. Minor point, South Korea did not 'return' to democracy - it never was a democracy prior to the 1990s.

[@jus10lewissr]

Missing persons cases are sad, but missing children are on a whole different level and far more horrifying to imagine for me personally.

[@jus10lewissr]

The "Frog Boys" case feels damn near self-explanatory to an extent, considering that the bullets came from the base. Whether one boy was accidentally shot and the rest purposely executed, or any other scenario that may have taken place, their deaths definitely seem to be linked to that army base. Because of that, the case will likely never be solved, unfortunately.

[@jus10lewissr]

Not to take away from that last comment, but that's probably the most rhyming in one paragraph that I've ever done in my life. Lol

[@wecs05bs]

The background music is the most creepy, gets me everytime

[@xumuk3]

It should be played inside the caves and other risky places constantly )

[@wecs05bs]

​@@xumuk3fr i always get flashbacks from his cave disaster videos

[@LordNavandis]

Just the thought of a soldier firing off his gun to practice and hearing children screaming.... Then knowing some humans, covers it up in a panic. What a horrifying scenario

[@domesticterrorist483]

Battled hardend soldiers don't panic. He or several of them may have hunted the poor boys for their entertainment.

[@fredanderson7728]

One thing is sure: The true motive of the frog boy murders will never be certain.

[@sydneym5595]

@@domesticterrorist483 they weren't battled hardened in the 1990s, the korean military hadn't had a war for decades

[@domesticterrorist483]

@@sydneym5595 I stand corrected, you are right, my mistake. Thanks.

[@marcorizzoni9766]

@@domesticterrorist483 People with PTSD, like many “battle hardened” soldiers are, panic a lot actually. The problem is that WHEN they panic, they go in combat mode. Not that this was probably the case, there weren’t many war veterans there at the time.

[@VenomBlazeCoCGaming]

My life has been, quite terrible as of the last year going on now. Have been extremely depressed, hating my situation more day by day. Finding this channel and binge watching all the videos has saved me in a sense. Hearing these stories truly makes you appreciate your life, even when you think everything is spiraling out of control. Thanks for the videos mate, keep up with the great content. Ps: don’t know why, but the cave diving stories made me want to pick up diving

[@bonefetcherbrimley7740]

I hope things turn better for you friend.

[@lesanimaux4416]

I'm in a similar situation. These videos make me appreciate the smallest bits of positivity I can find. And I somehow learn to cope with the situation. It's not good. But I try to make the best of it. I only disagree with the diving. I had a diving accident in 2011 and I'm never getting back into open water ever again.

[@widow237]

♥️

[@chereeamore4615]

Praying ❤you find peace and comfort

[@metalmamasue3680]

As bad as life can be, and it's SO hard sometimes, you never know what's around the corner. I hope you all get through whatever you're dealing with, and wish you all the best going forward. 😊❤ Life is meant to be lived to the best of your abilities. Take care of yourselves too. Reach out when you need to talk. Others are there to listen, it helps sometimes just knowing you aren't alone in your struggles. I believe in you and know you got this.

[@ripvanwinkle2002]

my theory for the last one is, they were going to the army base to collect souvenirs like the empty shells, a thing boys would definitely do.. and explains all the empty casings and bullets among the corpses this ALSO explains why they wouldnt tell anyone what they were really doing that day.. HOW or WHY they died i havent a clue..

[@noi_den]

I think the theory that an officer was shooting at the range that day and accidentally hit one of the boys, then tried to hide the evidence and get rid of the witnesses to cover up his accident is the most likely. Whether this officer had help or not, I couldn't say, but this theory is absolutely possible and what I personally think happened to them. The simplest explanation is usually the right one, and your idea that the boys went to collect trophies fits in perfectly with the whole accidental shooting/hiding the crime theory. Of course they wouldn't tell anyone where they were going because any parent or guardian would tell them that it's not a good idea to hang out near a shooting range, even on a day when no one is supposed to be there! I feel so bad for the parents.

[@crypt84]

@@noi_den The bodies showed blunt force trauma only, so they weren't shot. I think the image shown in the video is very misleading in that regard

[@kurtbilinski1723]

This does seem most likely: searching for casings and live rounds (explaining why both were be found on them). The blunt force trauma could be due to them falling down the hillside on the way back and being unable to continue, eventually dying of hypothermia.

[@chrisdowning6396]

Omg.. that is a really good theory though.. especially, with all of those empty casings , and everything...

[@sleepingbee8997]

My first thought when I heard there were bullet casings with the kids was that one of them had found a gun and wanted to show it off. As soon as I heard there was a military base, my next thought was souvenir hunting. I loved to explore as a kid, and I know if I routinely explored that mountain, I'd be very tempted to sneak in there. Grabbing the bullets as a neat keepsake is a logical next step for the kids. The question of how they ended up bludgeoned to death is a harder one. If it was natural causes, then I'd assume one of them fell, and the others fell or became exhausted trying to help them. They didn't go for help, because then they'd have to admit where they were. If it was homicide, the accidental shooting doesn't make sense to me. You shoot downrange and hear someone scream, you call for help. It's not your fault if someone wanders onto the range. What makes more sense to me is if they were caught and an over-enthusiastic guard hit them with a rifle or baton, trying to punish them or just "exert his authority" like a bully. One or more of the kids goes unconscious from the beating and he realizes he's gonna be in trouble, so he disposes of all of them.

[@skidogleb]

I’m sad you didn’t say ugly tuna saloona, but thank you for displaying it on screen at least.

[@Trollgernautt]

Such a great name for a bar, lol

[@seandelap8587]

Polygraphs aren't reliable though which is why they are not allowed to be used in a court of law

[@friedrichjunzt]

Yeah they only detect fear, so anxious Persons will fail and cold psychopaths will pass.

[@maxbaugh9372]

But they are still required for certain security clearances, despite being generally acknowledged as pseudoscientific.

[@bigbay1159]

@@friedrichjunzt They don't detect that either....many many factors throw is off, if you are just a sweaty person that triggers different responses.

[@thedeviouspanda]

​@@maxbaugh9372I had to take a polygraph for my old job. My coworker told me about the guy before him getting so stressed out by the idea that he puked in the trash and had to reschedule. I think they're useful as a stress test because do you really want to be giving clearance to a total puss like that?

[@ShadowCatGold2006]

Story 1: I don’t blame Clint for getting a lawyer when he was asked to take a polygraph test. I’d say anyone should do that, even if they were completely innocent. All I can say there is, I feel so bad for Derek. Poor guy! I can't imagine that many losses in such a short time!

[@TenTonNuke]

I'm a guy named Brian who worked at Outback Steakhouse in Columbus in 2006. For a second there, I thought I might have disappeared.

[@kbird6208]

And you didn't know until now? That would make for a great story.

[@TenTonNuke]

@@kbird6208 I also drank at Ugly Tuna all the time. I even know the construction parts that people are suggesting he fell into when it was being built. I can see how it might happen. That whole parking area behind the building was under construction and dark as crap.

[@terryechoes3192]

1. Wandered drunkenly into the construction site and was buried in the foundation. Don't drink. 2. Large, hungry predator? 3. Killed by military and by proxy of the gross incompetence of South Korea. Seriously, they couldn't win any of the lawsuits against the police? That's an insult to humanity.

[@maddyc2412]

The second one was likely a medical incident. It happens all the time that spouses claim there was nothing wrong and that their spouse is in perfect health-until something goes wrong. He was in his 80s it's the most likely explanation

[@et3182]

Normally large predators would leave behind some sort of indication. There would be signs of a struggle or remains would eventually be found. Also there would be blood at the scene. Like the other comment suggested, medical emergency seems more likely.

[@evafleury5538]

There would have been evidence of a large predator attack on Tom Messick. He likely fell down a shaft or cave opening, barring something supernatural happened.

[@marhawkman303]

@@maddyc2412 yeah, my thought was that Tom had realized this might be the last hunt he ever goes on and did a few things because of that he probably shouldn't have. The "limited mobility" is a bit of a red herring. His mobility is good enough they were expecting him to walk back to the car unaided. So... it was obviously possible for him to have walked to SOMEWHERE. The question is where.... and why.

[@Flips6022]

They covered a very large area multiple times. Nothing was ever found, large predator is unlikely because the only predator capable of that is black bear and their population is scarce here in NY. Any kind of medical episode is also unlikely because the entire area has been searched thousands of times by countless hunters and search parties. Not even an article of clothing or any of his hunting gear has ever been recovered from the area.. All cave entrances, ponds, swamps and land was searched…

[@jus10lewissr]

18:46 Unfortunately, "pranks" like that aren't all that uncommon. It's truly evil that any person would do something like that, so for me to call it "disgusting" would be a gross understatement.

[@SageK253]

I'm so glad you covered Brian's case. His is one of the missing person cases that really sticks with me. I've watched so many videos about it and read a tons of posts, and there just isn't any solid conclusion. I hope the family has answers someday.

[@danielmorris7648]

I think we should outlaw polygraph tests they can't be used in court and the refusal of that flawed test immediately turns public opinion against you

[@cathybaldry7822]

The FBI and CIA will tell you otherwise

[@francesca234]

@@cathybaldry7822 Law enforcement is allowed to lie to you during questioning so not surprising they would lie to the public about the polygraph tests.

[@dfuher968]

Only the US uses polygraphs. For good reason. Also only the US allows police to lie to ppl. Well, at least among free democratic countries. For a country, that likes to tell the rest of us, how superior they are, and how we should all be more like them, the US really is appallingly backward.

[@theartright4650]

All the stupid cop and lawyer tv shows and movies we've been watching over the years present "lie detector tests" as infallible. It's a load of crap.

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

Im prity sure my country has.

[@lancealot5393]

I was just watching the last vid on your channel, refreshed my page and got a brand new one :)

[@peter_the_snow_viper8411]

🤣 same

[@bk138gt6]

I think Brian went out the door without a camera, ended up in the construction site, passed out and got crushed or something

[@noi_den]

I think it is the most likely explanation, that he fell on the construction site in an area where he wouldn't easily be found and construction went on as normal without them even realizing his body may be there. I am surprised not more went into investigating the construction site, at least according to this account. I don't know what kind of construction site it was, but people accidentally die on construction sites, especially if they don't know where they're going, and I imagine if he was drunk it makes it that much more likely he fell down a hole or something like that.

[@FawnCC]

I’ve watched more in depth coverages of this and it was an interior remodel and it is considered to be unlikely because there weren’t many places to hide and equipment would have been used on visible areas. Plus the area would have ended up smelling as he decomposed.

[@catscanhavelittleasalami]

yeah, he fell somewhere and got buried

[@Kingdok10]

As far as the frog boys go, I think they wandered onto the military base, not telling their parents that that was where they had planned to go, so that they could collect rifle shells. I used to have fun collecting spent blank casings from a military museum near where I live when I was a kid, and I can absolutely see them planning a trip to get in there and snag some military souvenirs. As to what happened afterwards, I have no idea, but that seems to be a likely explanation for the casings and the kids secrecy to me.

[@EverydayKitten]

With all the times I have seen videos or stories about Brian - you have brought new information out and i LOVE it! Always in awe of the research of your videos. Bless all those who go missing like this, and the poor Frog boys :(

[@LevelEarthWD]

What a pleasant surprise. Thanks Sean. Love it when you post! I'm here 7 minutes after you uploaded. Watching now. Already gave a like cuz you don't disappoint. ❤

[@meredithgrubb4497]

Tom's disappearance is one of the most baffling for me. In his buddy's interview he talks about the sound like a trap door slamming shut and u can just see that it spooked him and my gut tells me that sound has everything to do with his disappearance. I fully believe whatever happened, happened fast and that whatever it was got absolute hell from Tom. The FBI showing up to monitor the search makes me think they were there to make sure something wasn't found. I think about Toms case everyday and feel for his family and his dog. I just hope they get answers one day. Its just one of the creepiest cases for me.

[@bradsanders407]

Yeah he probably fell down an old mine.

[@kovy689]

Agreed. Something doesn’t smell right with that one.

[@kovy689]

@@bradsanders407Pretty sure FBI don’t care about some old abandoned mine. Has to be much more than that.

[@darkestkhan]

@@kovy689 depends on what is in the mine

[@kovy689]

@@darkestkhan May not even be a mine that they were guarding. Could be some secret fortress.

[@henryhale4048]

Found this channel roughly 2 years ago and haven’t missed a upload since! This is the best storytelling channel on KZbin!

[@chrisdowning6396]

Ikr.. and his narration voice and the way he tells it is so perfect...

[@timedwards5734]

Yeah it's up there alongside Mr Ballen. The art of storytelling had almost been lost & replaced by tv and film. KZbin created a space for great storytellers to do what they do best 🙂

[@kattimate]

When looking for missing people and finding skeletons, they should never, NEVER separate just to put the same bones together. Mixing bones is the folly of amateurs, The police and all the people handling the case with no care. It's sad how little empathy they had for the parents who lost their kids.

[@ErikaAnnSings]

My thoughts and condolences go out to Brian's brother, my brother went missing in December of 2023 and after 193 agonizing days he was finally found. The not knowing is horrible, I hope he gets answers one day soon. 🙏 ❤

[@NinjaRunningWild]

How was he found?

[@fatherofmimes4236]

My day just improved greatly with Scary Interesting upload

[@Roland_Deschain_of_Gilead19]

I agree with the other commenters, even if you're totally innocent and the police need to interview you, you need to get a lawyer. Also, as somebody who has worked in mental health for over 10 years, the possibility that Brian ended it seems by far to be the most likely. When I've seen people attempt to end their own lives, substances are almost always involved because it lowers your inhibitions and makes you more impulsive and less likely to think through things logically. Many times, when we interview families of the patient, they will say they had no idea the person was depressed or was thinking about attempting to end themselves. On average, men use methods that are more likely to be fatal. Brian was also very versed in what would be most likely to "work". I would also like to say that there is a chance the security cameras just missed him because the technology at the time was not the best and if he took a jacket or hat off, he might look different enough where they saw him on camera and assumed he was somebody else. That's just my speculation though. I'm avoiding the S word because of KZbin systems that flag things.

[@chrisholiman2552]

Excellent video. The graphics in all of your videos are outstanding. Just a high production value all around. Thanks so much for your efforts.

[@cyka666]

I’m with Clint, you should never take a polygraph.

[@ashkii9452]

I don’t trust em either

[@adoxartist1258]

I appreciate all your hard work on these videos, thank you. Just one concern: it's a grave mistake to imply that hiring a lawyer, when it becomes clear someone is a person of interest, is suspicious. It is foolish to Not hire a lawyer at that point. And we have that right. Please consider a neutral take on those who get lawyers.

[@littlebear274]

Especially if your reason for getting a lawyer is that the police want you to take a polygraph test. That is 100% get a lawyer immediately, do not pass go, territory.

[@OldWomanfromtheMountains]

Polygraphs are an unreliable “tool” used in investigations, yet not allowed as evidence in court. For a good reason. My husband was a Federal LEO for 42 years. He was considered to be the best of “top tier” investigators. Upon occasion young agents attending polygraph school would ask my husband to be a test subject for the students. He chose one thing to “lie” about in each test. Like the name of his mother, how long we had been married and so on. He passed every test showing “no deception”. He simply repeated the lie over and over to himself before the test. Now he understands the polygraph better than the general public, he’s also a very mentally and emotionally strong person, however he stated that no one should subject themselves to that test.

[@Kwauhn.]

6:30 Honestly, that makes sense to me, and was probably a good choice on Clint's part. Polygraph tests are notoriously inaccurate, and agreeing to take part in one is a bad idea if the police are just looking for someone to pin. If they were desperate enough to try a PT, they'd probably got all the information he knew already, so that's a good time for him to step away from the investigation. EDIT: Ah. I'm like, the 100th person to say this, lol.

[@krisc6012]

Just wanna tell Derek Im sorry for his loss and to hang tough and keep putting one foot in front of the other. You will laugh and love again, but sadly, never as hard as before. I lost both my mom and sister within a month and a half of each other. At 2+ yrs. now, I'm at least laughing and attempting to participate in life, but it's difficult and overwhelming sometimes. I almost feel like I'm still in shock in some way. I'm definitely dealing with depression and i can't get motivated to save my own ass. If you were close to those you've loved and lost, my heart goes out to you. It does get better, and time is a great healer. Just remember to take care of yourself no matter what situation you face. Your family is ALWAYS with you, and they are pulling strings to ensure your happiness and safety from the next realm. I believe we will see them again in their true form, light and energy.

[@tifKh]

You’re kind to empathize, and hopefully if not Derek, your comment helps other people. Maybe sharing your experience helps you, too. I’ve always thought of grief a this hole in the chest with jagged sharp edges, and time eventually dulls them, and other love can slowly fill that hole, partially, but it’s always there. I hope you get some therapy or journal to process your shock. You could very well have ptsd, please take care of yourself!

[@krisc6012]

@tifKh Thanks, you are so sweet. I absolutely get a little relief by sharing my story. I'm trying hard to take care of myself and stay positive. So far, so good. I appreciate you for commenting such nice wishes for me and others. The world needs more people like you, like me and all the others that go out of their way to empathize and show love and support for their fellow humans. Peace and love to u, Kristy

[@Anxiety_Creature]

Scary interesting uploads are my happy place.

[@acidone3738]

As always i appreciate your stories and perspective on them. Youve come a long way since youre earlier videos whilst still maintaining that sense of familiarity, i hope the stories keep coming and hope you have a great life

[@seandelap8587]

If Brian Shaffer didn't leave the pub through through the front entrance then the only other place he could have ended up is in the construction site and i think thats where he may have ended up and the construction workers may have panicked and buried his body so it wouldn't be discovered and thats where it may be today

[@bradsanders407]

Why on earth would they panic and bury a body? That would take them from not being in trouble to being in trouble. Not to mention theres no way everyone on site is keeping that secret. Especially with reward money being offered.

[@talpark8796]

nonsense

[@catscanhavelittleasalami]

nah, most likely he fell somewhere in the construction site and was buried without anyone noticing his body

[@talpark8796]

@@catscanhavelittleasalami 😆

[@metaljay77]

Many disappeance stories are similarly mysterious. I had a friend from high school that vanished during college. Got in a car accident, took an uber, then disappeared. His sister said he may have walked out on his stressful life. I cling to that theory.

[@raucepowers8127]

Idk if it was from my suggestion, but glad to see you cover Brian's story. As I explained in my email, I lived across the street from Ugly Tuna at the time of his disappearance, it's always been in the back of my mind... glad to see you cover his story 🙏🏼💪🏼

[@tifKh]

What do you think?

[@raucepowers8127]

@@tifKh I honestly have no specific theory. The only thing I can think of is, like several instances covered in other episodes - there have been MANY MANY examples of people doing inexplicable things, and becoming trapped as a result. I would not be surprised if he somehow became stuck in the building somewhere, and they just haven't found him. Crazier yet similar things have happened. But that is my only theory, aside from him potentially having been murdered and dismembered/somehow transported out undetected. I cannot imagine he started a new life. His family have adamantly looked for him, if he were alive I can't imagine he wouldn't have been spotted by now.

[@fahhcue850]

As someone who’s grown up right next to the pond, basically. I remember when this first happened and I’ve heard this story on several different occasions since then. But knowing the area pretty well, it still gives me the creeps tho honestly!! Especially not to turn up SOME sort of clues as to what happened to him, with all the people involved and the equipment they brought out.. It’s a fairly well known and traveled area and someone should have turned up something by now.. However the fact that nobody has, always made me feel like one of the other guys, who went out with him. Must’ve played some kind of role in his death, for one reason or another.. But obviously I didn’t know any of those people and it’s just a gut feeling. Either way, it’s messed up regardless!! Man made it through all he had, just to be blown into the wind without any trace of anything sadly… Prayers for Tom and those who cared about him tho!! 😔🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@littlebear274]

I think it's more likely he went into a hole or crevice. Anyone doing something to him would have had to hide the body as well as any evidence of foul play without anyone noticing anything strange. Foul play isn't a magical answer when other things don't make sense because you have to consider how they were able to actually do it. On the other hand, maps of missing people line up *extremely* well to maps of areas with a lot of cave systems, it's way beyond what could statistically be a coincidence.

[@fahhcue850]

@@littlebear274 Oh for sure, I definitely could be wrong! But I always thought that they had taken him out on the way there. Meaning he never even made it to that spot they said they sat him down at.. I always thought they did something to him and with him, before they ever made it into the area. Then just called and played up the missing factor, to give themselves plenty of time and space to get rid of any evidence. I can’t even really explain why it is I always thought that. Because it was never a suspicion of such a thing. But it’s just something that I’ve thought/felt like, since the first day of them searching for him and hearing about it.. I don’t honestly have a good reason to believe such a thing. Just something I’m my gut has always bothered me and the situation. But granted, he’s likely to have just walked off , god only knows where… Jus seems strange that nothing has ever turned up about him, no matter what the threw at it for equipment and man power resources! But who knows, perhaps he’ll finally turn up this hunting season and his family will finally get some sort of closure on the situation tho!! 🙏🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🙏🏼

[@momtammy3563]

I had a sinking feeling about Tom, and think it's as likely as not that he died as the result of a gunshot wound, and that he and his belongings were secreted away somewhere that no one else would ever find them. Simplest explanation, imo.

[@lenningradgeneroso6066]

Disappearances stories are my favorite kind of videos on this channel!

[@leigha2814]

I don`t think Clint did anything to Brian as in harming him but i think he knows how brian left. Brian's story is interesting and i think some time in the future we will learn of an interesting story of escape from this bar and a life of pressure and pain that he couldn't take anymore. I feel terrible for his brother more than anyone, my brother and i have lost most of our family but we still have each other.

[@BabyScatha]

I much prefer these kinds of videos over all the cave stories! Your story telling is great and very respectful of the poor sould involved in your stories.

[@ThunderPants13]

Me too! I'm not too interested in all the diving and cave stories. These kind are much more interesting.

[@alexroselle]

When humans describe an odd silence in the forest “like something is keeping the animals away”, why is it not obvious that they are themselves that “something”?

[@mckennadishongh2160]

Because sudden silence is only noticeable when it’s sudden. The animals that go silent when humans enter are not heard by the humans. We hear birds and crickets and chittering squirrels. Those feel very little threat by us. Warn each other, get into the trees, and watch us or continue ab their business. Noisily. When those animals* go silent, we notice. Those animals go silent when they are aware of a greater threat than us.

[@MrMegaFlich]

@@mckennadishongh2160 Tom's story along with the Slovak shoe worker in the mountains are the creepiest. The outright disappearance of Tom isn't that disturbing, but the mention of the silence, the sound and that nothing was found on the ground takes this story on a different route.

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

Youre clearly a city dweller, we rural people know better. When hunters tell you its strangely silent its because it is, they are used to the normal sound of the forrest and their absense is noticable.

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

@@mckennadishongh2160 Yea when I enter the forrest crows always alert each other of my presense, walking quietly for an hour Im also 50% likely to see a dear sized animal. The forrest is full of life and sound and if it where to go quiet I would notice.

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

@@MrMegaFlich Ive heard it said that people sometime see leaves russling but cant hear them. Animals might all go quiet but the wind does not care, its not sentiant. This has lead me to believe that there is "jamming" at play, things seem quiet because your ability to hear is being disrupted. Very scary.

[@S0m35uy]

Lore Lodge did a great video on Brian Shaffer.

[@rosewater3]

Your channel is one of my top five favorites! The writing, eerie tones, and narration elevate the entire video. ✌️💙✨

[@enihsnuSrenni]

Tom knew that was his last hunting trip and wanted to go out as he lived. I think they couldnt find him because he didnt want to be found.

[@HanakoSasaki]

Just got a better help ad from your channel. Have had some pretty horrific experiences with it, so can’t be remembering stuff like this anymore, Thank you for your videos beforehand, it was an absolute pleasure.

[@donnavivian9431]

I would ALWAYS refuse a polygraph test as it has been proven that it is not 100% accurate

[@dfuher968]

Not only not 100% accurate, but barely 50-50. Its a coin toss, basically. At best its a waste of time, at worst it redirects the investigation in wrong directions, coz investigators rely on it too much instead of proper investigations. There is no upside to agreeing to a polygraph test, no matter how innocent u are.

[@TRUMP.FOREVER]

I'm from the Appalachians born and raised and trust me when i say when the woods get eerily quiet something is definitely off indeed but i really enjoyed the video 👍🏻

[@useless_walnut]

The sort of channel that when he uploads you just drop everything that you're doing and watch

[@MountainHighSnow96]

While the earth is huge, it’s still haunting how people can disappear without a trace after being right near other people.

[@Mo0may]

Paralegal here: Honestly, if you are in a situation where you are being interrogated by police, you should ALWAYS get a lawyer. Polygraphs are faulty and they aren’t admissible in court. Police can legally mislead you, lie to you, and fabricate scenarios to back you into a corner. Some of them will do anything to “solve” a case regardless of actual facts. The number of wrongly accused people in this country is terrifying.

[@Mohenjo_Daro_]

I'm guessing the frog boys had a plan of sneaking onto the firing range to collect bullet casings, and that's why they were so secretive of what they were doing. Then either a solider (or multiple) shot one by accident, then killed them all to cover it up, or saw them and decided to hunt them for sport.

[@toxicweas]

Love your videos! Just started my lunch at work so this is perfect timing! Thanks!

[@speleokeir]

In the first story the construction site is the obvious place to look but it doesn't sound like anyone did so. It's easy to imagine he might have had an accident there and his body unwittingly buried in the course of the construction. Additionally construction companies can lose a lot of money if there are any delays, so they wouldn't have welcomed any investigation.

[@noi_den]

100% I think this is what happened in the first case.

[@jamesknapp64]

The construction site was well searched by Police, inclusing using their K9 units. Also it was searched before they went back to work after Brian dissapeared. It was also a minor construction site that everyone from the Police to Brians family agrees he couldnt hide in.

[@anikajain571]

Thanks Sean, as always a brilliantly researched and delivered video 👍 I'm familiar with all 3 stories but have never heard so many of details you narrated, excellent work 👏

[@lisajohnson5516]

I don't fault anyone for not talking to the police without an attorney.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

There is a fourth option for Brian: He could have an accident. So neither foul play nor deliberate disappearance. There was a case where they found remains behind a box freezer of someone who went missing years before. He simply fell behind the freezer, got stuck there, perished, and wasn't found. So there is a chance that Brian is still somewhere in the building. And nothing wrong with lawyering up and denying a polygraph. Those machines are even in the best case just marginally better than randomly guessing. And if there is any risk that you might say something stupid or get manipulated, even if you have done nothing wrong.

[@QuackheadG]

Scary Interesting uploaded guys it's gonna be a good day!

[@bubblyproduction9809]

Best timing!! Keep up the great uploads Scary Interesting

[@johngodfrey2963]

Woah can’t believe I’ve never heard of Tom’s story. My buddy has a camp on Brant Lake and we hunt Lily Pond every year. We’ve never come across any abandoned mines. We got a real nice deer last season.

[@LGamerr]

I eat at outback steakhouse every day for lunch, and always listen to this channel. To hear the restaraunt mentioned in this video was scary enough LOL

[@josephd.5524]

For the Messik case, I feel like it was a huntsman who made the decision to leave on his own terms, in a place he loved. Getting old, eyesight going, can't keep up with the young lads anymore- but not wanting to leave that place that meant so much to him.

[@canadasleftcoast.5744]

A plausible theory, but with his health issues and limited mobility he'd only be able to go so far without help. They'd have found him with such an extensive search.

[@josephd.5524]

@@canadasleftcoast.5744 A hunter familiar with the area can disappear in it; it's sort of what we do. And as the narrator said; the area was full of old mines and places a body could vanish into without a trace. If he knew the area enough, he'd know a spot, and fading eyesight and strength isn't an impossible challenge to overcome if you aren't leaving anything in the tank for the trip back.

[@canadasleftcoast.5744]

​@@josephd.5524Your theory is as plausible as any other, considering the lack of evidence makes any theory improbable... And yet it happened. This one is truly bizarre.

[@ImPatriott]

In Tom’s story, if you are in the woods where there are normally animals. Then all of a sudden one day you hear no wildlife, especially during daylight, a BIG predator is in the area. Odds are if a sound was heard that is indescribable, it was a large unknown predator.

[@themodernfrontiersmen]

I could be wrong but I remember that first case being solved. He left via the exist that had construction going on and fell into a pit. Nobody noticed he was down there and it was filled with concrete, and his body was found during renovations years later. I may be confusing it with a different case but I'm certain it's that one.

[@omnirath]

Nah it was an other case

[@noi_den]

Even if it was another case, I think this is what happened to him 100%.

[@omnirath]

@@noi_den well it’s not impossible but concrete is porous and it wouldn’t go unnoticed at least that’s what usually happens in those cases, anyhow it could be detected easily if it is there

[@littlebear274]

It definitely would be well known if he'd been found, it's a pretty "popular" case in the unsolved mystery community.

[@dfuher968]

@@littlebear274 Sure. But loads of KZbinrs are still making videos about the Dyatlov Pass incident with all kinds of werid theories, despite that being solved a few years ago.

[@AZ0986688]

The last case is really creepy. I mean, one or maybe two boys being struck by a stray bullet I can understand... but ALL of them? That is seriously messed up. Was there a psychopath with a scope in that army??

[@bestboy138]

I wish people that disappear would show back up sometime.

[@toweypat]

Many of them do, fortunately.

[@snowy5628]

These disappearance videos are your best ones!

[@abhisha8086]

Y am I hooked to these videos 🤔🤔

[@LevelEarthWD]

It's totally unavoidable. We're all hooked!

[@MananaMan]

1. Drunken suicide, maybe guilt from cheating on his gf because of the grief? 2. Slow onset stroke 3. Police cover-up of military That's my conclusions, I think the disappearance of Tom is the most confusing as the search effort really should've provided SOMETHING and foul play is pretty strange for someone almost on their death bed How Brian managed to leave the bar without being unseen is a complete mystery though

[@evolancer211]

Cause blurring out only the eyes, it hides who they really are lol

[@JayQueen01]

lol

[@QuigleyYT]

most of them are stock images anyway

[@McPh1741]

Great video as always. How about one on lost treasures in the 20th century? I think the story of the treasure of Victorio Peak and the solid gold Buddha statue found by Rogelio Roxas that went missing in the Philippines are interesting.

[@bradsanders407]

lol at those parents. "Why weren't you watching my kid?" "Why weren't you watching my kid?"

[@llsher5210]

I don't think Clint was complicit in Brian's death in any way, but he knew what went down. Brian's relationship with his girl wasn't as solid as portrayed and they didn't "run into" Meredith. She seemed like a particular friend of Clint, who spent that night with her, and they (or at least clint) called her specifically to designate drive for them. Lore lodge channel does a much more in depth of this disappearance

[@annmarie1569]

I live in Ohio and Columbus was my summer vacation with my Aunt and my Cousin. Rule of Thumb..... NEVER go out alone and NEVER separate from your group of people or you have a very good chance of never being seen again.

[@et3182]

I'm not sure that it is a very good chance, that's a bit paranoid, but better safe than sorry.

[@annmarie1569]

@@et3182 Columbus South Side is the worst part but all of Columbus night life is extremely dangerous at night. It doesn't matter how good an area seems. It's even more Dangerous now than ever because of all the homeless encampments and by disappearing, I mean unalived. Columbus Ohio is ranked at number 86 as one of the most dangerous cities in the entire United States so that's not being paranoid, it's a fact.

[@lrp71]

@@annmarie1569 You're absolutely being paranoid. I looked up the crime stats and 2021 was the deadliest year in Columbus' history, with 204 homicides all year. That's in a city with a population of nearly a million. The crime rate is down in 2024 according to the sources I saw. Obviously any number of deaths is tragic, and it's good to be cautious (particularly if you're planning on drinking, as intoxication can lead to making dangerous decisions). But there is not "a very good chance of never being seen again" if you walk away from your friends for 5 minutes.

[@annmarie1569]

@@lrp71 Come to Columbus Ohio and find out for yourself.

[@lrp71]

@@annmarie1569 Wow, great rebuttal to actual statistics. I have no need to go to Columbus, but if I were there for some reason, I would have no reservations about going out at night.

[@Hannibalzulu77]

Its ridiculous how people can on one hand acknowledge that a polygraph is not a reliable test, yet still when someone refuses to take one and/or gets a lawyer, people act like it is somehow suspicious. Just because your friend is in danger does not mean you shouldn't protect yourself from false accusations or lazy investigatiors who may try to pin it on you

[@bast4rdlyreaper]

In the second story, i bet that he saw a flight of stairs, and decided to go up them.