The CREEPIEST Cases of People Disappearing #2

[@mastersKaaP]

I've been binging a fair amount of your videos, and so far I've learned a good few life lessons: 1. stay away from caves 2. stay away from mountains 3. don't scuba dive 4. especially don't go cave diving 5. don't walk alone 6. don't go out at night 7. don't swim in pools 8. don't get into a Honda Odyssey without someone nearby to help you if you get stuck 9. beware of strange metal capsules

[@sarahj344]

Oh God, the CAVES!!!!

[@draw2death421]

And dont dive headfirst into chimneys

[@briggeebee]

Don't forget (if you're a woman) don't use outhouses / vault toilets

[@draw2death421]

@@briggeebee didint the woman live tho?

[@leisti]

It's safest to just stay home.

[@classicmicroscopy9398]

All it takes is a hidden abandoned well, thick foliage, or deep permanent snow to potentially hide cadavers forever. The wilderness is vast and seachers aren't perfect.

[@mariawhite7337]

Mine shafts, when you are hiking in the dessert, ALWAYS be on the look out for mine shafts. The things are EVERYWHERE. Its actually extremely dangerous and does need to be addressed. (sadly it is only addressed when someone actually dies in one.)

[@goblinofsharksnacks]

I read somewhere that certain mountains have gaps n stuff that can shift, opening and closing right under you, i cant remember the specific details, but its spooky Edit: Like from unstable earth, shifting rocks, gorges and fissures that collapse and refill with dirt, snow, ect, mini sink holes, landslides, lots of scenarios where people can be swallowed by the earth and make them seemingly disappear

[@mark-f4e6k]

@@goblinofsharksnacks tell me more!

[@mark-f4e6k]

@@goblinofsharksnacks i totally just pictured that and it creeped me out bad

[@hannah.kate.]

Not going to lie, it’s also scary how easy it is to avoid searchers if you really want to - I ran away once as a child due to abuse and I lived in a rural area. There were police, dogs, helicopters, and half the village out looking for me, and I was literally dodging police cars, misleading the sniffer dogs and had helicopters flying right over my head without a single person noticing where I was hidden. A determined person, especially one who knows their way around the area, can slip by unnoticed disturbingly easily.

[@getschwifty5271]

I cannot imagine the pain, guilt, and terror Stacy's father felt at her disappearance. My God, to have such high hopes for a father daughter camping trip only for it to end before it even begun is just so tragic.

[@dfuher968]

I dont get, why any1 would let a 14y old go on alone. If the guy going with her turned around, surely her father shouldve insisted, that she could only go, if she stayed with him all the time, and the guy shouldve insisted, that she turn around with him? Not trying to cast blame, I just dont understand why....

[@gnomie2.0]

@@dfuher968each parent has their own risk assessment to make all day every day, but I wouldn’t have let her out of my sight (or let a random dude accompany her no matter how many old he was). I wandered a lot as a kid and in hindsight I feel very lucky to be alive.

[@rumck]

yeah no shit

[@greenjellyfish]

​😊😅

[@FrenziedmerchantisaHomo]

​@jkfnp your not the main ch your life wasn't in as much danger as you think hindsight is 20/20 but intill you have a kid and have cared for her every day you learn to trust their judgment she was said to be responsible but no lol you think you know right cause you have context could happen to anyone and judging is actual zero iq behavior like grow up you actual kidless loser maybe if you spent less time on here commenting about what you would you you might actually have a kid

[@cambiata]

I've heard about that final case before, and it's still wild to me that with his clothes neatly folded INSIDE the cabin, rebar over the top of the chimney, and even an object placed in front of the chimney to hide him, it's considered "accidentally" and the coroner never changed that ruling. The friend that later did a crime spree, I wouldn't be surprised if Josh was h is first "trial" murder to see how it goes, and getting away with that he became more bold. But who knows really, it may not have been him, but I think it definitely was a murder.

[@gNome_5]

Absolutely agree!! I think his body was hidden up that chimney (or lowered down, that would explain why his hips were dislocated!). You would think that Josh's body would have scrapes and abrasions all over it from him trying to wriggle and shimmy his way out of that chimney, IF he had been stuck in there while alive?

[@AyeliaGDoren]

@@gNome_5 They found him ten years later so he'd be too decomposed for that.

[@gNome_5]

@@AyeliaGDoren I see, even though he was mummified? They said they didn't see any bullet or stab wounds, so I guess I just assumed they would've been able to determine the other possible abrasions as well!

[@sofiathompson3531]

I also agree. Poor kid, maybe he forced him on the roof and made him get inside the chimney. Def foul play with that story, every odd detail was suspicious as heck.

[@koharumi1]

For the law speculation isn't good enough. Only evidence. For example a judge wouldn't say "he seems guilty" or "it doesn't look like ___" Which is why they had to conclude with such a statement. Circumstantial evidence isn't any good.

[@b_real2427]

I love the fact you give an in-depth dive into these individuals lives before their tragic disappearance or death. Many channels simply run through the details of the tragedy that befalls the person and they neglect the fact that these were people with lives, dreams, fears, family, etc. Giving humanizing background really makes your channel stand out. Great work brotha, keep it up and God bless.

[@anarchy_79]

I honestly don't care. Everyone here is a morbidity junkie, it's stupid to pretend these people's deaths are anything but entertainment to us.

[@AZ0986688]

Yes, this is one extremely good channel!

[@mikkoleinonen9846]

Yes. Too many channels like these put emphasis on the gruesome details of disappearances and murders, or even worse, the killers themself. Sadly most of the times the victims get downgraded to a footnote in a story that should be about them.

[@fourfurrypotatoes]

Some of them cherry pick details that may or may not be a fact.

[@m.j.mbrooks1859]

This is one of my favorite channels!

[@shrimpflea]

The Stacey Arras case is very sad. I have been in that area many times. My personal theory is that she got lost, it started to get dark and she panicked. Very easy to do, trust me. The terrain around there is very rugged and dangerous. She probably went farther than they seasrched. When people panic they tend to go faster and don't think straight. She may have fallen down a cliff or revine in the dark, maybe even into a river. I hope one day they find her remains.

[@SunRabbit]

She couldn't have gotten very far even if she wanted to because she was wearing flip flops in some rugged terrain. She was with 6 other people plus her father and they had encouraged her to put on hiking boots before venturing out to the lake. Lake itself sits at the bottom of a funnel, so it doesn't take a whole lot of skill to stay on the lake's edge and go around it. Also, there were about 50 other campers on site and the lake's edge is visible from the campsite, so this definitely looks like something unexpected took her.

[@ribevej57]

​@@SunRabbitShe wasn't wearing flip flops, she changed to hiking boots just before going out, on her father's request. Keeping the flip flops may have saved her life...

[@CKBeets]

I agree. Even if you ended up a 20 yards off of some of the trails up there you could easily fall and get injured and disappear into a ravine or something. People underestimate how dangerous the terrain is up there

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

"she got lost, it started to get dark and she panicked. Very easy to do, trust me." Only if she was a citydweller. "When people panic they tend to go faster and don't think straight." 14 year old me was scared of the dark, but having gown up in the wilds I would not panic. "She may have fallen down a cliff or revine in the dark, maybe even into a river." Fear of getting stuck in a swamp or poking an eye out on a branch is the reason why I would have stayed put when it got dark.

[@celticlass8573]

@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 But just because something is your experience, that doesn't mean it would be someone else's experience.

[@brittanyhyatt3407]

The Jason Jolkowski disappearance has completely baffled me ever since I heard about it so many years ago. How could an entire human disappear within just a few blocks without ANYONE seeing him? This is one of the cases that used to keep me up at night and going down rabbit holes. Whatever happened to him I hope he didn’t suffer 💔

[@MadderMel]

Yes , I found that story quite baffling , how can someone go missing while walking a couple of blocks to get a lift to work ? And in the day time ? He sounded like a lovely guy too ! Very sad !

[@amylewis4369]

Why isn't the brother being questioned? We only have his word that Jason left. The neighbor only reported seeing the brothers getting the garbage in, not Jason leaving.

[@Juliet7245]

And why did Jason's brother pretend to be Jason on the phone if only for a little while.

[@anthonyhernandez2153]

I live in Omaha, I’ve never heard this story. Absolutely baffled me also.

[@sleepshouter5017]

@@Juliet7245Idk if you have family that like to mess with people but answering the phone pretending to be someone else is seen as a pretty harmless prank by most. I’ve answered my relatives’ phones pretending to be them, or speak in a weird voice, just because. Lighthearted trolling? I don’t think he was trying to “cover up his tracks” by pretending to be his brother lol.

[@АртемЗарипов-я6н]

I can't quite grasp why, but your content is best among other similar channels. You manage to keep tention and then shock seemingly without effort, while with others you can clearly see where they are going. Others just repeat same lines, while you add backround and information to every story (especially with diving and mountaineering. Keep up the good work!

[@goblinofsharksnacks]

The direct information, not saying the same thing repeatedly, or explaining it as if for toddlers, the diagrams and images Others will jus sit talking in front of their camera, i dont really wanna just watch someone talk Theres also some who will make assumptions without having enough knowledge on the subject This channel is well put together, informative, and still one of my faves

[@ProteinFeen]

Omm I follow all creepy cases and the only person who holds a chance against SI is wendigoon and they don’t have the same style. But all the other channels that are only the same wave don’t even come close. Goat youtuber goat comment.

[@samlape]

It’s his voice.

[@kathyinwonderlandl.a.8934]

Believe it or not, it’s the voice that is the why

[@АртемЗарипов-я6н]

@@kathyinwonderlandl.a.8934 Nah, it's definetely not just the voice for me, but the content of every video

[@ScalaNation]

The thing that gets me the most about the 3rd case is that the depiction shows his hands at his side. Even if he were climbing in, who wouldn't put they're hands first?

[@cyb3rfa1ry666]

they stated he was in the fetal position, so the depiction isnt really true to the story

[@Bouitaz]

@@cyb3rfa1ry666 That's true, but a fetal position is even weirder. It'd mean knees and hands at his chest..

[@sykoteddy]

I totally agree, but the same was with another case of a rich, successful woman that even had a IQ over 160, that did this when she was drunk...

[@icantthinkofaname15]

​@@sykoteddywell to be fair, your IQ drops significantly when you're drunk lol

[@annegriswold2116]

So Josh SOMEHOW moved a heavy breakfast bar by himself that would likely take two people, stripped himself down to just the shirt he was found in, folded the clothes, climbed up to the roof and entered the previously blocked off chimney, went down head first towards a blocked fireplace, dislocated his hips in the process and decided to just curl up and die there. And its considered to be an accidental death, yeah that doesn't sit right. I also find it strange it took that long to find the body, someone knows something and they aren't coming forward for whatever reason.

[@louielouie6259]

I ate a large breakfast bar before hiking.

[@RomTheVacuumedSpider]

From my point of view, it’s a serial killer. Look up Harley Dilly - he was found in the same way. He “shimmied out of his clothes while in the chimney to get more room to breathe” according to investigators. And that someone must have neatly folded them, put his glasses on top, and hung his hoodie on the door. Checks out. 🙄

[@JKSSubstandard]

Unfortunately, I agree with the coroner. This case has all the hallmarks of classic terminal burrowing syndrome. A unique and rare form of hypothermia that can occur in temperatures as high as 60 degrees. More or less, the brain cools down so gradually that the victim doesnt realize its happening. The victim becomes more and more confused and disoriented as their brain shuts down from the body temperature slowly dropping. One of the symptoms is paradoxical undressing where the individual removes their clothes because the primal part of the brain believes they are contributing to the hypothermia, though as seen in many cases, they still might have enough rational thought left to fold the clothes or lay them out. They start exhibiting erratic behavior. And the final hallmark is, as higher brain function closes off, the person will build a shelter, hide behind an object, find a tree or find a cave, curl up in the fetal position and go to sleep, believed to be the brain stem protecting the body in case it warms back up. The existence of terminal burrowing is one reason for my disgust with pallides about the missing 411. He cites serial killers and weird forces, but the reality is, most of the US parks will meet the temperature ranges for TBS or gradual hypothermia at some or all of the year. And many of his strangest cases exhibit all the hallmarks of someone suffering from the condition. Underdressed for the weather, outdoors for extended periods, alone or in an area where they can easily become disoriented or lost.

[@Tim98701]

@@JKSSubstandard but in this case the clothes were found in the cabin and not in the chimney next to the body

[@flash_flood_area]

​@@JKSSubstandard But would terminal burrowing make you take off your pants, leaving on your shirt, and go climb up on top of a cabin, pantsless, then wriggle headfirst into a chimney, dislocating your hips in the process? To me, that sequence of behaviors seems farfetched, even for a person no longer in their right mind and seeking shelter.

[@johnchristopherrobert1839]

Search parties are notoriously bad at finding missing people. In Arkansas we had an 18-year-old girl that went missing near a park. The search parties never found anything. The belief was that she was kidnapped and was a victim of human trafficking. 5 years later her remains was found less than 100 yards. from where her vehicle was parked.

[@laniusexcubitor6935]

Thank you! I'm always confused when people take the fact that a missing person hasn't been found (or has been found later inside the previously searched area) as proof of someting "weird" or supernatural going on. I once lost my keys in my tiny garden and found it only after half an hour of searching even though it has a bright orange keychain... All I want to say is that it is extremely easy to overlook things, even more so in huge and sprawling landscapes with millions of nooks and crannies.

[@prof.scheere6933]

​@@laniusexcubitor6935and aliens are real 😂

[@MarloSoBalJr]

​@laniusexcubitor6935 Lost mine a full year ago, of the same color, and somehow it's not in the SINGLE room I was in at the time I lost them.

[@Eris_Greyrat]

Yo im just going to get half naked in a house, fold up my cloths, block the fire place from below then climb on top of the roof, remove a barb gate and dive head first in the chimney all a half a mile away from my house. Totally not foul play.

[@rockstarofredondo]

The metal criss-crossing bars were mortared into the chimney and not even removable.

[@Ford17x]

The dude was a mental case

[@nightcall6386]

@@Ford17x yeah, andy was a piece of work for sure. Poor Josh.

[@mareksaltberg1484]

@@nightcall6386 - maybe Ford17x is Andy

[@w.coast_piano6404]

Literally what I’m thinking. And they said that foul play was only speculation. So they deemed it accidental. Like okkkkk

[@reganmccarthy8409]

Missing person’s stories are always so fascinating to me. While tragic, and terribly sad of course the number of possibilities is what gets me. Are these people alive? Dead? Did they voluntarily vanish? I wonder just how many cases of people disappearing are they actually still alive somewhere. I also can’t help but imagine how horrible it must be for someone you love to disappear like that, I have a partner and a son, and if either of them were to go missing I feel like I would just never stop searching, I’d go full Liam Neeson and spend the rest of my days looking for them and just never stop.

[@Blox117]

they obviously not alive

[@NotSoSerious69420]

@@Blox117never say obviously. People going missing only to turn up alive later do exist.

[@nameless646]

Some people that go missing are found alive and well, sometimes decades later.

[@thejudgmentalcat]

Josh's death is the "?" story for me. So many weird things that you can't consider just one theory.

[@AlexSuperTramp-]

suicide, obviously

[@donnydogpiss4533]

When you lay out the actual concrete details and scrub away the stuff that's unfortunately been added in on the internet over the years, it's not too mysterious. There's some misinformation that's been added in over time, like in a game of telephone, with the retelling of the story and people just repeat stuff without verification because it sounds more compelling and people like mysteries. For one thing, it's never been proven that his clothes were neatly folded inside and the rebar was likely rusted away or easily removable after a few decades past installation; I doubt the 80 something year old man ever checked to see if it was still there. I used to do shit like that as a stupid teenager with my dumb friends - we'd wriggle our ways into abandoned homes/buildings at night to hang out in and check them out. Joshua seems to have been doing the same thing we did back in the day. He tried to slide down the chimney like a worm head first, got wedged in and died a deeply tragic, miserable death. Death by misadventure. I've learned over the years - after many, MANY times - to stop taking everything I hear on the internet at face value, and try to decipher as best I can what's fact and what's likely just been unwittingly added into stories by people on the internet. Sometimes "mysteries" are just simple cases that have been twisted and gnarled by strangers repeating the story over a long period of time and the kernels of truth get buried.

[@Wasteland88]

​@@donnydogpiss4533 Did you ever come close to getting stuck down any chimneys?

[@Ezio999Auditore]

Well said fren.

[@R0GU351GN4L]

@@donnydogpiss4533 Ok, But why would anyone go down a chimney headfirst? That just seems counterintuitive. I feel it would be more likely that he slipped in headfirst and got wedged. I just can't see anybody willingly going down a vertical drop headfirst.

[@dragonspirit1987]

People getting inexplicably stuck in chimneys always blows my mind. Especially who would go down a chimney _head first?!_ That's insane. Plus there's a flue in most chimneys that people aren't going to be able to get past even if they somehow make it all the way down.

[@Juliet7245]

Dont forget naked also trying to go down a chimney.

[@regan3873]

@@Juliet7245don’t forget going down a chimney with presents for all the good girls and boys

[@heresjohnny4836]

what baffles me about some of the missing persons cases , the jason case from this video especially is how little effort of actual care is put forth by the police

[@mareksaltberg1484]

Maybe the police was involved.

[@rogerreynolds5822]

@@mareksaltberg1484 plot twist. A cop saw him walking and offered to give him a ride to work but instead it was a ride back to his basement. There have been cop serial killers in the past. Another young man went missing shortly after Jason. It's a crazy theory but would explain how the police really didn't do shit.

[@PrezVeto]

Selection bias. The cases in which police put in a lot of effort are much more likely to be solved and thus never end up on a channel like this.

[@heresjohnny4836]

@@PrezVeto i have my doubts about that

[@hannnnahhahhahha]

In Jason’s case I wish they could’ve searched every house in the area. It just feels like one of those locked in some crazy person’s basement stories 😢

[@gigikat333]

exactly what I thought, I could just imagine a neighbor he sort of knew asking him for help moving furniture or something to lure him in and that's it..

[@BesoffenerIslamist]

He's someone's Mr. Gimp now

[@teresaames7902]

@@BesoffenerIslamistwhy did his brother joke it was Jason??? Strange?

[@donnydogpiss4533]

@@teresaames7902 Uh, no, it's not "strange" lmao.

[@serenity8839]

@@donnydogpiss4533 It is abit weird for the brother to pick up the phone pretending to be his brother the same time he goes missing, not knowing the extent of the convo he might have only given up that "gag" as he got called on it, some people who have done crimes do this kinda think to change the time of disappearance ect. It is a little strange.

[@woody5109]

I’m a retired hunter, trapper, guide from Northern British Columbia, the scariest thing in the bush, is man. Keep that in mind.

[@nicoobrowner]

Careful now. The internet I currently chewing women up when they say they'd rather be stuck in a forest alone with a bear than a man. 😮😮

[@gamgamgamgam4061]

Shit id rather be in the woods with a bear than some random person, im not a girl ​but anyone with an actual brain know people are unpredictable while bears are simple @@nicoobrowner

[@seanl6478]

Do you mean just in Canada? Cause I would 1000% rather come in contact with a man than a fucking lion.

[@seanl6478]

@@nicoobrownerwell, it’s a vague question. Is the woman on a nature trail? If she is, then it’s idiotic to say you’d rather come in contact with a bear. If it’s out in the “middle of no-where” kinda woods then I’d agree. Because why tf would he be randomly out there, must be up to some weird shit. No campfire, nothing with him, no friends- I’d be running out of there.

[@icantthinkofaname15]

​@@seanl6478😂😂😂

[@AidanPatko]

A camera lens was never found in Stacy’s case. It’s a commonly misreported fact but the official reports state that absolutely no trace of her was found.

[@shrimpflea]

Not true. A camera lens or cap was found however they are not sure if it was hers.

[@AidanPatko]

@@shrimpflea source?

[@FrenziedmerchantisaHomo]

This Man child is spreading misinformation the lens was indeed found by searchers don't let stupid people like this misinform you with their usless lies and if you read the report it was the one she was last said to have on said cam so please do research don't be like Aidan he's a lie spreading loser

[@SunRabbit]

@@shrimpflea Even back then they sold generic lens caps for a variety of cameras simply because lens caps tend to get lost. I know this for a fact because my father's been a professional photographer since the 60s. The fact that the lens cap's manufacturer didn't match the camera Stacy was using doesn't mean it wasn't hers.

[@userequaltoNull]

​@@shrimpflea Nope. Never found. Cite primary source or BTFO.

[@nancyjones6780]

Of course the first story is out of Yosemite! You could do a 2 hour video on Yosemite disappearances alone! It's freakish!

[@et3182]

unfortunately lots of people underestimate nature. Popular parks are gonna be especially bad for this because they are visited by many people and include huge swaths of mostly untouched land. Naturally people will have accidents and never be found purely due to the size of the area. Its sad but not very surprising

[@lorimiller4301]

I believe that a certain type of alien made a deal with the government that they could have bodies without any persecution. This is some bizarre exchange and that's why it happens so often in national parks. Phil Schneider said he built tunnels for high speed transit of aliens and government officials. It's all tied together.

[@lorimiller4301]

michael salla has a video about project bluebeam that explains a piece of the puzzle.

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

Over the last half century or so, people have UTTERLY FORGOTTEN how to live in or around the wild places. They don't remember to STICK FRIGGIN' CLOSE to their parties when out there. They're too busy dehumanizing those few of us who have or keep firearms and know what the f*ck we're doing, to stop and THINK once in a while. You'd like to think a bear is a 500+ pound behemoth and EASY to notice a mile away... that a pack of wolves or coyotes are EXACTLY like those damn dogs down the street that just WON'T shut up for 5 damn minutes... Surely, even a bobcat or puma is still BIG, and your neighbor's stupid tabby only weighs about 10 or 15 pounds and sounds like a small ELEPHANT romping over your roof or across your porch raising all manners of hell... Nope... That's just not how Maw Nature likes to play. In the wild places, acoustics are a weird and fickle bitch! Predators "on the prowl" are deathly silent, and you might only get a couple seconds, and you're either doing something (like shoot or fight) or you're already dead. Half rotted trees drop branches regularly, and widow-makers fall from time to time, completely unnoticed by the nearest humans, IN SPITE of the fact that anywhere from 500 pounds to several TONS of wood just crashed down in the woods... That STUPID riddle asks, "If nobody's around when a tree falls in the woods, does it still make a sound?" Well, from personal experience, about half the time, the g** d*** thing doesn't make a PEEP even when you're RIGHT THERE to hear it! SO what can WE learn??? Well, for starters, NEVER EVER be out of eye-sight from the rest of your party for more than a couple minutes... long enough to poop and stand back up to wave... You don't have to be chained together at the hips, but keep EYES on each other. MAYBE 100 feet or at most (while you're armed) even 100 yards distance is good enough for some space to breathe when you're out there... Otherwise, ALWAYS move in at least pairs... You're better off in 3's, if we're honest. With pairs, at least, one person CAN go get help after doing what little they can to stabilize the injured... BUT it's not great. In 3's, one can sit aside, keep a watch and defend the injured as much as anything, while the third runs for help... DO THAT as much as you can. You can be alone in your thoughts with someone else just about 100 feet off, keeping an eye out for you, making sure you don't slip or get attacked. AND FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST... Get something to defend yourself with. It doesn't have to be a 9mm... An old shotgun or hunting rifle is fair enough, from a lever action 30-30 to a 12 gauge... or anything in between, as far as firearms go, it's plenty... Keep it in good working order, well oiled and clean, and KNOW WHAT THE F*CK YOU'RE DOING WITH IT! YOU bear the full responsibility for it, once it's in your possession. "I'm sorry" doesn't fix what you can f*ck-up hopeless with a gun... so no, it's not a magic cure-all for everything. Those do NOT exist. It's not a mark against you as a human being to have a weapon. It's a mark of stupidity when something is eating your ass with their baked potato because you went stumbling around alone, in the woods, in the friggin' dark, armed with nothing... not even a d*ck in your hands to show for yourself. It's ALWAYS better to have the tool and not need it, than it's ever going to be to need it and NOT have one... I don't care what it is. ;o)

[@PoochieCollins]

TBF, it's not that weird in Yosemite's case due to its massive visitor influx. My top guess for the particular girl's case is abduction. I know from a bit of experience that wilderness areas attract a high bad-person-per-capita ratio; then add the variables that she was 14, by herself, and according to a Google Maps scan there's a paved road cutting right through the area.

[@profundo410]

Dude you actually post videos at the best times, i was looking for something to watch and saw this pop up on my feed and immediately clicked on it, absolutely love binging your videos, they're incredible

[@Sweetmotion23]

As a special education teacher, Jason could have definitely been taken advantage of due to his disability. That’s the one thing I always worry about with my students 😢

[@1arttu]

@@presidenteden6498 The other guy, Samuel Sherman, has been found. He didn't even know that he is considered as a missing person.

[@abraxasjinx5207]

​@@1arttudamn, do you know if there are any videos that cover that case? I thought it was odd that it was glossed over in this video.

[@MrThickDick]

Holy sweet motion!!

[@regularly_priced]

I worry about that for myself, too, as an autistic person. People can be pretty awful sometimes, and with my decreased ability to read social cues, it’s difficult for me to tell whether someone’s being authentic or not. It’s one of the reasons why we’re at a higher risk of being taken advantage of. (It’s not because we’re stupid.)

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

@@regularly_priced So carry weapons, and never ever allow yourself to be restrained. If your body is strong the moment they show unmistakable hostility you can take them.

[@SILSAL67]

jason's parents waiting 24 hours had no negative effect on his not being found since the police dragged their feet for a week before seriously looking for him anyway.

[@rudra62]

We don't know that. The first 24 hours are the most crucial in finding a missing person alive. If they knew he was missing, and encountered him in some suspicious situation or with suspicious people, they might have found him.

[@SILSAL67]

If someones holding a gun to your head or a knife to your neck, and you're naturally a gentle soul, there wouldn't necessarily be signs of a struggle, no matter how big of a guy he is.

[@et3182]

Probably wouldn't even need a weapon. Lots of people are willing to help strangers with things. Just think of the girl that gets abducted in Silence of the Lambs. In the movie she willingly walks into the van because she wanted to help.

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

Good thing Im not a gentle soul. Grandfather has taught me to never ever allow myself to be restrained and fight with ferrosity. For element of surprise I would fain complyance until the oponent lowers his guard.

[@connormcmurphy4276]

Hopefully you don’t end up put in an unwilling spelling bee. Cuz you’d be puckt.

[@ahrengroesch8774]

With Josh's case, I can't imagine a person putting themselves upside-down, half naked, and curled up into a ball in a chimney. That has to be someone stashing a body. Stacy was an attractive 14 year old girl in a remote area. I think someone snatched her and either trafficked her or kept her for themselves. Jason, no motivation to run away, learning disabilities, another disappearance a month later, I lean towards an abduction. These bother me. Excellent presentation.

[@skeetsmcgrew3282]

Ok, let's walk through stashing a body. You just suffocated somebody for some reason or another. You try to think where to put them. You have an entire woodland to dig a hole. But you insanely assume that dragging a grown adult onto a roof and shoving it down the chimney is a better alternative. A method that not only exposes the body to air to maximize smell, but could rot, come loose, and fall at any point. Plus you keep just a shirt on his body but keep his other clothing neatly folded inside. And you drag furniture in front of the fireplace, maximizing suspiciousness. At the very least would you not toss the clothes down the chimney? I never buy somebody being completely insane but having the presence of mind to dispose of a body. If you are insane you just run off. Disposing of a body makes no sense

[@ahrengroesch8774]

@@skeetsmcgrew3282 I'm with you for most of that. But the alternative is someone doing something significantly more insane. I can imagine myself coming up with some ridiculous body stash plan if I'm insane. I can't fathom a level of insanity that has me folding my clothes, then climbing onto the roof, going down the chimney face first, and curling up into a ball. What can we come up with that makes sense? Pointing a gun at him and telling him to dive face first into the chimney?

[@skeetsmcgrew3282]

@@ahrengroesch8774 Someone had the idea that he got locked out while taking a piss or arguing with a secret lover, decided the best way back in was down the chimney, and fell in by accident while climbing over the lip of the chimney. Certainly better than any other idea I've seen

[@joshuahawkins8627]

@@skeetsmcgrew3282Maybe his “buddy” who turned out to be a murderer perhaps didn’t have a shovel or is like me and doesn’t like digging. Much easier just to plop someone in an already made hole somewhere and put a “do not disturb” sign over it.

[@skeetsmcgrew3282]

@@joshuahawkins8627 You ever tried to drag 150-250lbs up a ladder onto a steep roof? Most people struggle with a paint can and a brush. Nope, just no way

[@josephjohnson5757]

I love this topic! It's crazy to think that someone can be there one minute and then poof, they're gone! If you actually look into it, A LOT of people seem to vanish into thin air, never to be seen or heard from ever again, every year. So many families and friends are left with no answers or even the slightest clue to what happened to their loved ones.

[@squiggly7]

It would be awesome if you did an episode or compilation of missing indigenous people. There are a lot of shocking cases, especially involving women that seemingly vanished.

[@queenie.lawyergirl.pittymom]

That couldn't be covered in one episode. It's an epidemic at this point.

[@daMillenialTrucker]

@@queenie.lawyergirl.pittymom ive heard about it with the woman in Canada involving a highway where woman just disappear in mass.

[@taariqkhanoflegend4622]

Highway 16 / Highway of tears, many cases and doccies about this. Some say there is evidence of multiple serial killers using that area as a "hunting ground". Interesting sht

[@mjanny6330]

@truckerrawb4895 they don't dissappear "in mass" lol they dissappear at the same rate as any other group but get much more attention due to their special status.

[@mjanny6330]

@taariqkhanoflegend4622 yep, there's thousands of documentaries about it.

[@fluffyfour]

I'm wondering why Jason's brother hasn't been interviewed further. Last seen with him and only his word he left the house. Why did he initially pretend to be Jason? If something happened accidentally and he panicked, it's possible the remains could still be at the house, in a place only the children knew about. Without more information about the case, it's the first possibility which came to mind.

[@et3182]

Can't answer to all of it but his brother pretending to be him doesn't really surprise me. Brothers do dumb things to screw with one another.

[@cainmathewson1857]

I know. It was what he said about Jason's brother pretending to be his brother on the phone. Then when the person sounds confused and you realize your plan isn't working "ah, I was just joking. Nah, he'll be there soon!"

[@xs6819]

Yep me too

[@themildlyconcernedkitten623]

The first case is terrifying to me. I've been following Missing 411 for a while from Mr. Ballan and other channels featuring some of the cases and it is so wild and terrifying. There's something so malicious and strangely inhumanely evil about the disappearances across all these cases including grown men just disappearing without a trace mere meters behind their fellow campers and such on a trail nowhere near any foliage/etc. The Missing 411 is definitely something I recommend if the first story caught anyone's attention. It would not surprise me if Stacy ended up in the Missing 411 mystery and a victim of whatever is going on with that.

[@abunchahoopla4392]

Where did a kitten learn to type? Now I'm mildly concerned lol

[@themildlyconcernedkitten623]

@@abunchahoopla4392 A very specific KZbin tutorial years ago with only 13 subscribers and 8 views

[@winterhaydn]

Advice - Stay away from Missing 411. Paulides distorts a lot of facts to fit his narrative. Also, there is no such thing as "evil". Don't fall for superstitious ideas just because the real answer isn't obvious.

[@winterhaydn]

The Missing Enigma is a better channel for these cases.

[@themildlyconcernedkitten623]

@@winterhaydn The majority of us know this about missing 411 and look up the info anyway, and the idea of something evil being a serial killer/etc in the forests is still something akin to most peoples definition of evil. I wasn't suggesting ghosts or bigfoot, but something just horrible, hence my word choicing?

[@jus10lewissr]

I've heard different variations of the last story by multiple YT channels but I've only ever heard one of those channels mention the "Andy" guy and it was incredibly vague so I appreciate the details, especially concerning Andy's background and the other crimes committed. I've also never heard a mention of Josh's brother before so that was interesting to know, too.

[@aviationguy8095]

Perfect way to start Sunday morning

[@izzie-8807]

The amount of disappearances in State and National Parks is utterly terrifying. It makes you wonder for sure.

[@laniusexcubitor6935]

About what? National Parks are huge, often rugged and mountainous wilderness areas that a lot of people travel to specifically to hike and experience nature. So I would say that it is only logical that more people disappear there than elsewhere...

[@consciousobserver629]

Would make for good "hunting grounds" for crazy people looking for victims. Just wait for a lone hiker and then do whatever bad thing you wanted. At least some of these cases involve foul play.

[@skierprincessakify]

@@consciousobserver629The serial killer Israel Keyes had kill kits hidden at state parks around the US.

[@skierprincessakify]

We have many missing people in state parks in Alaska.

[@essaboselin5252]

They're called wilderness for a reason. Vast areas of land that's mainly been left alone, no people, lots of animals, dangerous conditions.

[@bugsbunny8691]

They didnt charge the guilty guy because they already arrested an innocent guy. Sounds like american justice system alright.

[@CaptainRufus]

Extra if the innocent person was a minority in the South. Because we simply must be terrible.

[@MagdaleneDivine]

Par for the course.

[@lealta1481]

@@CaptainRufus as much as I love hating on the South due to them being terrible people that can’t drive, I do have to say that the North isn’t exempt from being racist either. The North can be just as racist in its own way.

[@CaptainRufus]

@@lealta1481 that may be but its an artform there.

[@lealta1481]

@@CaptainRufus wouldn’t say anything about the South is art.

[@SpadeDraco]

I actually feel like the foul-play angle on the Josh case is really weak. The metal grid probably never existed. The owner just lied about it to cover his ass in the event the deceased's family tried to sue him. The breakfast bar being moved could have happened basically any time. The cabin was literally in the process of being renovated when they found the corpse. The folded clothes actually make more sense from the perspective that he went down the chimney intentionally. He'd take them off and put them aside to keep them from getting dirty. Also why would his killer go through the trouble of hiding his corpse and then just leave his clothes around? That's not even getting into how difficult and ridiculously conspicuous it would be to haul his corpse onto the roof and shove him in there. Like the coroner mentioned it would probably take multiple people and they'd be REALLY visible while doing it. Worst case maybe somebody dared him to do it and then didn't call for help when it went wrong.

[@yungmilf]

exactly! especially on that owner covering his own ass smh.

[@benworsham1466]

I agree, who is going to hide a body in a chimney, when the outdoor provides millions of acres of forest. I believe the most logical conclusion is that the young man entered the chimney on his own.

[@mrreyes5004]

@@benworsham1466 Not really. It doesn't explain WHY he entered on his own. Why take off all of his clothes except the shirt? The video also mentioned that Josh preferred alone time on his walks, so the idea that he ran into someone or a group who dared him to do it is quite weak. Also, asking "who is going to hide a body in a chimney" is a rather useless question, because obviously many killers are known to leave the bodies of victims in strange places (for f*ck's sake, a suspect mentioned that a body was stuffed in a barrel instead of buried). Sorry, but I'm not buying it. I also rather believe that the rebar grid was installed, because 1) it does make sense to keep out pesky animals, and 2) there is likely at least some financial record of the owner ordering the rebar to be installed. Many of these ideas just seem more like excuses than true reasoning.

[@masterd1mwitt830]

If he was able to get inside and leave his clothes, then why would he go back out to climb in through the chimney? What's the whole point in that?

[@pdpgb]

If Jason already had access to the cabin in order to put his clothes there then why would he ever enter the chimney? Also if breakfast bar was already in front of it he'd know he wouldn't be able to get out. If some innocent person moved the breakfast bar later, they would have noticed the clothes and either disposed of them or called the police. Most likely he was murdered, shoved in the chimney and the bar moved to further hide the body in the event it fell all the way down at some point. Clothes were probably there before and left as an oversight by the killer.

[@GLING17]

I remember hearing about Josh being found inside the chimney and I always found that very creepy! What a horrible way to go.

[@roosterjackson7258]

dude, spoilers...

[@GLING17]

@@roosterjackson7258 Too effing bad! That will teach you to read the comments before watching the video, genius! LOL!

[@roosterjackson7258]

@@GLING17 tbh i was trying to make a morbid joke about callously treating real people's deaths like the plot of a film...now ive explained the joke, and thus failed

[@manmaje3596]

@@roosterjackson7258Insert fart noise [here]

[@manmaje3596]

@@roosterjackson7258Good sense of humour though. Even though the first person didn’t appreciate.

[@evanwetzel8641]

After removing the rusty rebar out of the concrete, Someone or a multiple people definitely dropped josh into chimney by holding his legs while one would assume he was unconscious or maybe he was fully aware but was being restrained in some way. Which is baffling bc the toxicology was negative and supposedly there was no trauma on the head. That being said both hips were dislocated which requires force. A force that in my opinion was applied to both his hips simultaneously when he was dropped in or it could be a result of him trying to struggle to get out. This one is truly baffling. Something happened and i guarantee someone knows exactly what that something was.

[@jsequine927]

His hands were also by his side so the people "dropping" him would have to have held his arms in the north direction before dropping him, so strange. If he went in hands first he would almost have definitely broken his collar bones and dislocated his shoulders but there was no mention of that.

[@CYMotorsport]

22:40 I’ve literally dislocated my hip which I feel like is pretty rare for a young person. It happened when I was 14 too in a very odd fluke accident playing football. To dislocate your hip and not break it is incredibly difficult. It would take very, very intentional movement. I’m highly skeptical someone could maneuver themselves in such a position methodically in the immense amount of pain it would require gently enough also to not break your hips in the process. The impact of dislocating a hood is the painful part. The actual action itself wasn’t painful just highly disturbing have an entire leg in the complete opposite direction then just uncomfortable like it fell asleep. But the MOMENT I even moved it in any way or anyone touched it it was utter agony. There’s simply no possible way that part he could endure for any extended period of time and not lose consciousness

[@ScaryInteresting]

Hip dislocation is extremely high on my list of things to avoid doing 😅

[@xanaduse]

I almost got lost in Yosemite once. Went by myself to a hike I had never been to before, was supposed to be 8-12 miles, one way, leading to a trio of lakes. After about 6 hours of hiking, I had only met 1 couple on the trail and I came up on a tent after 6 hours, nobody was around, I called out, peeked inside and it seemed it was put up not that long ago, but the trail ended there. It just faded. I walked around for half an hour to see if I could find it but didn’t, then I had trouble finding my way back to the tent. I found my way by looking at the rock stacks someone had made and the barely perceptible path back on the side of a flat faced Rocky Mountain. I found my way back to the road by around 9 pm, it was dusk and I made it back to my car at 10 pm, walking the last 3 miles on the side of the road, didn’t even come out of the trail I went into. All in all, was fun, would do it again with more supplies and a compass. All I had was 2 water bottles a bag of jerky and a box of grapes

[@markwebster5749]

Location beacon

[@lucaskane468]

A “box” of Grapes ?

[@standdownrobots_ihaveoldglory]

As a grandchild of a missing person who likely simply cannot be found, im weirdly relieved no one has covered him.

[@smstnitc]

Ugh, reminds me of my last annual canoe trip when i was 18 in 1994. It was a large campsite with my dad and a large group his friends and friends of friends (this was an ever growing annual trip started by my grandfather and his friends decades before). Someone brought his son, who was just a toddler. The kid disappeared Friday night. We all got to searching in the morning. My the afternoon the kids mother was there. There's nothing more heart wrenching than not being able to sleep because every few seconds a mother his hollering her little sons name at the top of her lungs. I don't remember the kids name anymore, but I'll never forget the feeling of it grief behind those screams. His body was found down river on Monday. The camp site was right on the river. Likely the kid went wandering during the night and got caught in the current and pulled under☹️

[@xeokym223]

When people go missing in parks in the forest, if their remains ARE found, they're often found outside of the search area. Sometimes it seems like they don't look far enough away. It's understandable they want to search the area where they _think_ the person likely was more intensely than spreading out too far, but it seems like they should search beyond the more immediate area. Also if people do get lost, they should resist the urge to wander around and try to be patient and remain in one place. Which is understandably difficult to do when you start to get panicky. I've gotten lost in a large park myself and that panicky feeling when you realize you've lost your way is awful and can drive you to get further lost and distant.

[@merricat3025]

I got lost in wilderness area. I was hiking near a lake and somehow messed up on which trail I was on. Luckily I was by a lake and used the lake to guide me back ( still on trail). I kept the lake in sight and knew parking lot was near lake. Your experience would be frightening mine not so much. There were people in the area so if i got deperate i could have yelled for help and the lake wasn't that big. This little experience for me outs in perspective how easy it can be to get lost in large park.

[@pdpgb]

The problem with that is the missing person went in a line but you as a search team have to search the entire circle since you don't know which direction they went in. The wider the radius the more impossible it becomes to search the area properly.

[@CJM-rg5rt]

Josh's is just so incredibly sad. It's dark but all I can think of is him trying to evade someone or being forced down. That person could have tried to get him out at some point (explaining the dislocated hips) but eventually gave up, blocked it off and left.

[@lorimiller4301]

Ever see the movie Desent ? about a young man and his brother go caving in Nutty Putty Caves and he gets stuck. It's a sad and heavy case, not for light viewing.

[@Kayla4217]

​@@lorimiller4301that's not what the movie Descent is about at all, it's about a group of women who are going cave exploring and run into supernatural killer creatures, nothing based in reality at all.

[@abigail3383]

@@Kayla4217 I thought the creatures were perhaps offspring of trapped cave explorers who'd basically spent their whole lives in that cave, as really old caving equipment was found which implies this.

[@jordanalandry1866]

@@abigail3383u really missed the boat on that one, the old caving equipment (and the fucking human remains) implied that the cave HAD been explored previously but no one made it out hence no maps, the creatures were there all along and it's believed such things actually exist there is interdimensional beings that come and go from uninhabited places all the time idk about savagely killing people but sometimes they take them with them hence the disappearances IRL

[@SolidLMG]

@@abigail3383 the old cave equipments just to show that people have been there before the girls when they thought they were going to unexplored caves, the creatures would have needed millions of years to evolve that much, pretty sure the accepted theory is that they were ancient humans like cavemen that went in and just didnt come back out

[@RaviStarr7]

Regarding Stacey's case: a freedom of info request can be declined because it's also about privacy protection. Or it could be that all releasible info was online.

[@Superfrostman15]

Great video! The eerie music in the background always sets the tone perfectly alongside your incredible calming voice! ❤

[@iamgar6age]

What the music called ?

[@dreamofmermaids]

I spent my young life in Yosemite. I've climbed half dome, climbed the inside of El Capitan, limbert dome in tuolumne meadows. I've back packed and camped all over Yosemite. I'm very very blessed all I have are amazing memories.

[@shrimpflea]

I have hiked alone in the Sierra Nevada mountains for over 25 years. Never had any issues.

[@paulcorbin7495]

You lucky sole

[@kwd3109]

In the tragic case of the man in the chimney, sometimes the simplest explanation is likely the most correct. Josh probably, by accident, locked himself out of the cabin as he went to use the outhouse. This explains why he was found only wearing a night shirt. Unable to get back in the cabin he decided to crawl down the chimney to get back inside and got stuck, afterwhich he unfortunately expired.

[@Sleepparalysisdemon2]

Occams Razor. The simplest explanation is the most likely.

[@paradiseb5950]

How could he have locked himself in a cabin that was already locked. And why would you fold your pants? Where was his underwear?

[@skinnybub5237]

Wouldn’t you just kick the door in or break a window? No way that Andy scumbag stuffed his body down the chimney. Can’t believe the POS got away with three murders.

[@enricoartiaga4319]

makes no sense since the chimney was blocked off, meaning that if he was alone in that house all this time he would be the one to do that and it wouldnt make no sense for him to try and enter through the chimney given that it was blocked

[@dalew5832]

But why Head first?

[@denilla8034]

That 77 year old was not traveling with them. He saw her alone on the trail and joined her for "20 minutes" then headed back to camp. Then, he asked a group of hikers coming from that direction if they had seen her. He was always suspicious to me, for a few reasons. He may have been 77, but he was capable of hiking the trails in the least. Source: Yosemite Case Files

[@justmanic9673]

But they saw him say goodbye so there's no way

[@denilla8034]

@@justmanic9673 Who saw him say goodbye?

[@justmanic9673]

@@denilla8034 The other campers

[@denilla8034]

@@justmanic9673 I don't see how that's possible when he "walked with her for a half mile to a mile". I've never been to that campsite, but it's hard to imagine that visibility would allow them to see that far

[@AyeliaGDoren]

@@denilla8034 It was the guides who saw them separate.

[@B.H.56]

Last case was "accidental." yeah right. I knew of a guy who was found in the woods with an ax in the back of his head, that was also ruled accidental.

[@duchessedeberne3909]

He „ax“identially fell on an ax

[@pdpgb]

As he was trying to pull the axe out of a piece of wood it flew out of his hands over his head and landed directly on it. It could happen.

[@_Stormfather]

Did he have information that could lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton? Or was he a Boeing whistleblower?

[@Fareeha73]

Haven't watched the video yet but, one of the craziest missing person case I've ever seen is the Taiwan, woman and daughter elevator disappearance

[@pandat581]

I don't think I've heard of that one 🤔 what happens?

[@Fareeha73]

@@pandat581 This mother and daughter go on an elevator in this apartment complex, go to the top floor and disappear. The police did a full search of every room in the apartment and surrounding area in case of a s*****e but, they were never seen or found to this day. Happened in 2008 and I think it might have appeared in a Scary Interesting vid at some point

[@mommy2libras]

My best theory for that one is that the woman was trying to get herself and her child away from her husband, who I read somewhere else was abusive. She did remove their jackets and shoes in the elevator & when she 3xited, it was on the 11th floor and she then entered a stairwell (that apparently didn't have a camera, nor did most of the hallways or anything). A suitcase was also found at the top of those stairs. It's very possible she knew someone in the building (it was mixed business and residential) and they disguised them and got back k out of the building before the building security started searching for them, which wasn't until a good bit after they'd left the elevator. It wasn't until then that they started looking closely at everyone leaving so they easily could have dressed the woman completely different and even ma6be hidden the little girl in a case or something so it didn't look like a woman and child leaving the building in the time before the search started.

[@marloneverington]

Did they check the elevator shaft above and below? Some dodgy elevators in asia

[@marloneverington]

​@@mommy2libras sounds most plausible scenario

[@skierprincessakify]

So many people go missing here in Alaska, many are never found. It’s so crazy how many hikers disappear and no remains are ever found and many are in state parks on well used hiking trails. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@shirley9209]

Alaska, Washington and Oregon are some strange places when it comes to missing people.

[@Keshly16]

What part of Alaska?

[@citisoccer]

The first case is perfect example of how there aren't any more kidnappings now than there used to be. Difference is, they just always called it a "missing" case. When a normal, happy kid drops off the face of the Earth, the only animal involved was a human.

[@MrPropagator]

His voice is so amazing

[@---nd2yx]

Story 1- No foul play. Lost or hurt in the woods, eventually died in the wilderness. Story 2- ABSOLUTELY foul play, whether by the s offender up the road, the suspicious neighbor who moved away or someone else entirely law enforcement hadn’t yet caught onto, but the second kid disappearing the same way one month later in such close proximity absolutely seals it for me. Absolutely taken and/or killed, absolutely foul play. Story 3- No foul play. Understandably, the victim sounded not entirely stable. Maybe he used that cabin many times before as a safe place to get away from things and had never had problems and this time for whatever reason, whether he locked himself out, was feeling adventurous or some other reason decided to try going down the chimney, get got stuck and died a slow miserable death. Butttt no foul play. Just speculation obviously. Enjoy this series and diving/cave exploring incidents the most. Not into the horrible fated series. Please keep these up!

[@valiantwarrior4517]

Doesn’t matter if a kid is or isn’t a runaway. The police have a responsibility to find them. Unfortunately in Jason’s case, despite having learning disabilities, he was an adult who didn’t need constant supervision or anything. Still, it’s kind of tragic that they waited so long to really start an official search.

[@michaelatracey9076]

I’m so happy

[@valiantwarrior4517]

@@michaelatracey9076 Congrats?

[@emilydraper8971]

I live in Omaha, NE and have never heard of the Jason Jolkowski disappearance until today. It's horrifying and hits close to home since I know these areas. :(

[@emilywilkerson3684]

You and @FascinatingHorror are my two favorite darker story series. I wonder if there are any stories where your topics overlap?

[@reneeklein9159]

My dad used to go hunting in NY In Oregon and in Alaska. He ALWAYS said that the forest had the strangest noises… and odd hums. That’s why I steer clear of the woods

[@shirley9209]

" You can't see the forest for the trees" I can when driving down road with no intentions of stopping.

[@OGgrandpaw]

Keep doing this. You are one of the best people on KZbin. I believe you are coming from a place of honesty.

[@kylieminou7775]

The amount of people who "left everything behind to start anew somewhere else" is the same as the ones found by "psychics"

[@blueindigoqueen7077]

I always get so excited when my notifications go off n I see u uploaded a new video! I got my husband hooked on ur channel as well.. so it’s very cool to be able to enjoy ur channel with my hubby 💙💙

[@BreadApologist]

I wonder how rare or strange these actually are. There’s gotta be loads of people with few irl friends or lack of social life across the world that go missing to and get reported late or not at all. Or just for whatever reason don’t make it into national or international news coverage. Common things can seem rare and rare can seem common depending upon how it’s talked about.

[@hollowgonzalo4329]

Most of em are just unsolved murder or kidnapping cases. When nature is involved usually it's just a case of them getting lost or stuck somewhere. Or an accident occurs like a rock slide or they have a fall or something that kills or injures them.

[@rushmoresociety2577]

But think of the literal billions of things people do every day and nothing bad happens. Billions.

[@Cameron-h9m]

Please never change this background music. Always so eerie-sounding and now associate it with both your channel and a quarter hour of intrigue!

[@Hamza-B3]

Imagine one of these missing people watching this video right now

[@valiantwarrior4517]

Thanks for the intriguing video. I’ve always been really interested in these mysterious missing persons cases.

[@Helix_Bonopart]

“His childhood perfect until his parents separated.”. I’m not sure you know how that works.

[@loditx7706]

I read that her brother and a friend of his were also in the group. I also remember that the lake was closer than 2 miles and that it was close enough to see except there was a line of trees, not a forest, but some trees one would walk through to reach the lake. Another YT poster said the older man got tired, but he didn’t walk back to camp, he sat on a large rock and watched as Stacy disappeared in to the tree line. That was the last time she was seen by anyone in the group.

[@PmoneySkates]

First story, the things that makes those cases stand out is that people who go missing like that don’t just run of and leave the grid, they disappear without a single trace or scent and absolutely vanish without any single sign

[@delilahboa]

Great video Sean….regarding Stacy, your 1st story, did anyone ever suspect the ‘elderly’ man who turned back from the hike because he was too tired? Who knows, he may have hurt her, anything is possible right? ……love your channel! Xx❤xX

[@mikkoleinonen9846]

If you enjoy unsolved true crime mysteries and disappearances like these, I recommend a podcast called "The Trail Went Cold" hosted by Robin Warder. I usually don't promote any podcasts or other channels in YT, but I feel that people who enjoy Sean's content can get a lot out of The Trail Went Cold. (p.s. the audio quality of the podcast gets better after a couple of episodes, so don't be put off by that.)

[@MashaRistova]

I highly recommend the podcast called The Vanished for missing person cases. It’s soooo good

[@daisyflores5218]

Thank you both !! I want to follow more channels like these but don’t know where to start or what to search sometimes. I also would like to recommend “MrBallen” he has two channels i believe i only follow one where he tells story’s of the “missing 411” cases & also other stories. If you enjoy podcasts videos his second channel is all about it 🙂👍🏽

[@ericastapleton7042]

Thank you @Scary Interesting. The Joshua Maddox case is very Weird. His family must have felt confused but relieved that at least his body was found. ⭐

[@missybarrett5690]

I love your channel, and this is my favorite of your videos yet!!! Nothing is creepier to me than missing people stories. More like this please!

[@davel7014]

I've read that thousands of people disappear every year just here in the U.S. Many just vanish, with no evidence. No missing car, no charges to bank accounts, clothes still at home. Weird.

[@mjanny6330]

Most missing people are found safe and well.

[@radrobd123]

@@mjanny6330 and some go off to commit suicide

[@briandickey2201]

That case about Jason it sounds like an abduction from a serial killer.Just in 4 blocks and never seen again? unfortunately Jason ran into the wrong person, wrong place, wrong time.Same as that man who went missing a month later a block away from Jason?I know it sounds crazy to think this but people can't handle the truth.No one believes people can do these horrible things.But unfortunately monsters do roam our streets it's not a damn movie it's reality.

[@TealCheetah]

That last boy was absolutely murdered. :(

[@eiscremekaiser]

This channel is only the best!!!

[@mirror9865]

Your intro always makes me feel so comfortable ☺️🥰

[@JigsawJr27]

Someone on the unresolved mystery subreddit claims that Samuel Sherman have been found alive, and although the poster didn’t go into the details to protect his privacy, it seems Samuel disappeared voluntarily, and had no link with Jason

[@KenyPires]

This is the way to end a perfect weekend

[@Clenched.Cheeks]

Ah yes, what a great video to watch before hiking alone in the Canadian Rockies.

[@BesoffenerIslamist]

You will make a great missing 411 case, Stevie

[@Clenched.Cheeks]

@@BesoffenerIslamist Things went silent for a moment and a wave of dizziness came about. Now things are different. I look around and the post office lady has a mustache and gas prices are in hogshead measurements. Have I leaped into your dimension?

[@lyedavide]

Another great compilation of strange cases. Good job!

[@Flordiaman1]

Man its awesome to see how much youve grown this last year. Love your content!

[@MouthyMiriam]

My first video on this channel…. I love the serendipity of youtube sometimes…. Awesome job

[@nancyjones6780]

The kid in the chimney? His murder-addicted friend absolutely was/is responsible. I mean it's glaringly obvious. They should re-open that investigation!

[@sy_dianne5224]

I also believe he was murdered, why would he climb into the blocked chimney head first and half naked? Makes 0 sense

[@TysonRex37]

Making huge assumptions that in your mind must be real after your only exposure is not even 10 minutes of a KZbin video is why you aren’t a detective.

[@RRMarzz144]

Glaringly obvious that foul play occurred ? I think its more plausible that he was inside the cabin, took off his pants then went outside for something, but found the door had locked/ was stuck and decided that he could get back in through the chimney and got stuck as a result. Then the fireplace could have been blocked later on by someone else trying to contain the smell of a dead animal not realizing that someone's loved one was inside. I just can't see why a person or multiple people who committed a homicide would go through all the work and risk of getting caught/spotted by hauling a body onto the roof and into the chimney.

[@sy_dianne5224]

@@RRMarzz144 Possible, but I honestly never heard of anyone who locked themselves out entering back through the chimney...plus he was completely naked from the waist down..

[@thedeviouspanda]

I wonder if Jason's disabilities made him more gullible or trusting of people and therefore easily taken advantage of. Maybe he got lost because he was bad with directions, then got approached by a nefarious character.

[@verinonrenthar9176]

The fact that anyone still gives David Paulidas any credit really blows my mind. He's been proven a fraud for years now.

[@eyeballjay]

Anyone who puts their name and face at the forefront of these cases rather than the missing/dead gets a huuge sideeye from me. And even now there are people in the comment section spouting his crap. The sad thing is if the police and authorities had just done their jobs properly you wouldn't get these clout-chasers building whole ass careers and cults of personality off of people's trauma. Discussions about aliens/bigfoot/underground cults/whatever the fuck else do nothing but distract from the actual real human beings who are missing/unsolved deaths and the way these people treat it like it's some kind of joke or a TV show, lowkey makes me sick. Also on top of that like.. forests and nat parks are big and full of wild animals and holes to fall in, cliffs to fall off etc.. people are gonna go missing and die in them sadly especially if they're overconfident/not careful, sometimes it's really not that deep (not referring to the cases in the video so much as the "missing 411" in general. \sorry for the rant lol it just really annoys me.

[@sarakralj1350]

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[@goblinofsharksnacks]

I heard Stacy's case before, thought maybe it could be abduction as they were on a guided trip it wouldn't be too difficult to inform someone of the travel plan and that person wait for an opportunity It is remote and not the most convenient but creeps have often shown up anyway

[@nancyjones6780]

Oh, it was abduction for sure! Of the extraterrestrial 👽 kind!

[@Whatlander]

Yeah, the "It's too remote to get abducted" explanation doesn't sit well. I guess they couldn't find enough evidence to pursue the idea, because it's completely possible. Maybe less likely than getting stuck or attacked by animals, but not unheard of.

[@et3182]

Seems plausible but I still think the most likely theory is that she got lost and fell into a hole of some kind. If she got lost it wouldnt be very hard for her to end up way outside of the expected search area. Then with the rough terrain and vegetation cover it doesn't seem unlikely she wouldn't be easily found.

[@shrimpflea]

I have been in that area before. I don't see how anyone could be abducted and not noticed. It's not like there is a road where you can just trow someone in a van and drive off. They would have had to carry her out many miles. Seems highly unlikely.

[@jordanalandry1866]

@@shrimpfleayou have to literally ride in on horseback all these people with their stupid ass theories clearly have never seen the actual area and think they know better than the FBI and 30+ years of searching and investigation lmao there's much to suggest something is not of the ordinary in that case

[@sampsqwantch4612]

oh snap another banger! just in time before work lol

[@thisbadmonkey]

Imagine the guilt a father must feel when his daughter disappears and it most likely would not have happened if he just went with her instead of deciding to relax.

[@kennethbryant5819]

Or better yet, say no. They just got there and had plenty of time plus he was the parent.

[@rushmoresociety2577]

​​@kennethbryant5819 helicopter parents to the rescue 🎉

[@radrobd123]

@@kennethbryant5819 was she underage? I thought she was an adult. If so, how could he parent an adult

[@MultiMcKane]

Your choice of backing audio is flawless.

[@Chelanwechel]

Good morning everyone!

[@ScaryInteresting]

Good morning!

[@crazyaussie7054]

Good evening from Australia!!

[@joseorrego5009]

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[@BesoffenerIslamist]

Hi

[@TheKatyPB]

YES. I'm addicted to this . Thank you❤

[@MarvinHartmann452]

I have the feeling Josh was victim of a stupid bet "I bet you're not willing to enter they shack by the chimney" so he remove his clothes not to get them dirty from the sooth and drop himself in. After some time he lost consciousness and his friend paniced, leaving him there. That something guys of his age would do.

[@rsaenz0423]

Missing 411 is such a damn good documentary

[@FannyLerouxTime]

That last case was really interesting! More like that please!

[@stephaniemiya9757]

Five stories at a time is enough for me. Your narrations are soothing to listen to even through the tragic content. Ghoulish as it may sound, I find these accounts to be a refreshing palette cleanser from the paranormal and true crime stories I also enjoy. Thank you

[@doofmaczemy]

I think Josh was murdered and stuffed in the chimney to make it look like an accident.

[@pdpgb]

To hide the body which is why they moved the breakfast bar in front of the chimney in case the body ever fell down. And they clearly did a good job hiding it too as it only got discovered when the entire cabin got demolished.

[@scarlett8782]

I can't believe Jason's parents didn't report him missing for an entire day due to misinformation. he had special needs, so he's not a typical teenage runaway. people with special needs typically do not run away from home on purpose. at best, he was lost, at worst, he was in trouble. just so sad

[@ishmiel21]

That first story you told is not an impossible disappearance. There are many possible things that could've happened. For one, the elderly gentleman who decided to walk a 14-year-old girl into the woods just the two of them could have easily done something to her, or somebody else could've come along later when a young 14-year-old girl was sitting by herself at a lake in the woods. It's not mysterious at all. It's incredibly tragic and unfortunate, but certainly nothing even remotely close to paranormal or anything like that.

[@trishhill7563]

Thoroughly enjoyed this video! Just subscribed 😍 This is the 2nd video I've watched & it's so good that's why I subscribed 🙂