The Crisis of Meaning | Dr. Os Guinness | EP 51

This episode was recorded on July 30th, 2022.
Dr. Ian Oswald Guinness, born on September 30, 1941, in Hsiang Cheng, China, is an English author, theologian, and social critic currently residing in Fairfax County, Virginia, since 1984. Of Irish descent and the great-great-great-grandson of Dublin brewer Arthur Guinness, he returned to England in 1951 for secondary school and college. Guinness holds a Bachelor of Divinity degree from the University of London and a Doctor of Philosophy degree from Oriel College, Oxford. A prolific writer, he has authored over 30 books addressing cultural, political, and social issues. Guinness was a leader at the L'Abri community in Switzerland in the late 1960s and later served as Executive Director of the Williamsburg Charter Foundation. In 1991, he co-founded the Trinity Forum and played a key role in drafting The Global Charter of Conscience. Currently living in McLean, Virginia, with his wife Jenny, Guinness is associated with the Anglican Church in North America and is a Senior Fellow with the Oxford Centre for Christian Apologetics.
Find more from Dr. Guinness:
Website: www.osguinness.com/
Connect with me:
Instagram: / tammypetersonpodcast
Facebook: / tammypetersonpodcast
TikTok: / tammypetersonpodcast
Twitter: / tammy1peterson
Rumble: rumble.com/c/TammyPetersonPod...
- Chapters -
00:00 - Coming Up
01:18 - Introduction
02:16 - Dr. Os Guinness' Background
05:36 - The Crisis of Meaning
11:41 - Seeking God & The Great Worldviews
19:30 - Finding the Truth
26:40 - Envy & Pride
30:07 - The Deconstruction of the West
41:22 - God's Calling on our Lives

[@chrisquinn394]

Tammy's voice is so soothing and nurturing. She has the voice of an Angel.

[@virginiacharlotte7007]

Yes I needed after a stressful afternoon.😊

[@johannaquinones7473]

Yes❤

[@mandajean3139]

Agreed! Love listening to her!

[@laurenlovelessCRNP]

Absolutely 💯 agree

[@tomasscully997]

Hi Tammy. When you were sick and at your worst I asked (from the alter) all in attendance (large crown) at a RC church to pray for you. None of them had heard of you but they prayed for you. I hope our prayers played some part in your miracle cure. God bless you and your family. 🙏🙂

[@wolfthequarrelsome504]

What's RC?

[@tomasscully997]

@@wolfthequarrelsome504 Roman Catholic. 👍

[@suevangaal8947]

Love and Blessings to you both for a very Happy Christmas.❤ John 8:32

[@margueritespringer3687]

I was so struck when this man said his two brothers died of starvation yet his parents never wavered in their faith! We live in such seemingky bening times yet do not seek God

[@lindsaywillcocks8586]

Thank you Tammy and Dr Os that was glorious. Let's pray the prayer for the leaders of God to come forth Amen

[@Jaymastia]

All I am interested in is more of Os Guinness. Glad Jordan called him to the Exodus. He was phenomenal, and the way he broke down Jordan's complex perspective on issues was challenging and necessary.

[@leewinchester350]

😊

[@margueritespringer3687]

This man is such an intellectual and wise. So much to learn from him. Great guest Tammy

[@GermanJobbies]

Loved this one Tammy 👍🙏 Well done for standing up in this battle against Godlessness.

[@AFringedGentian]

Oh what a JOY, dear Tammy, I so appreciated Dr. Peterson’s conversation with Dr. Guinness and this will be just as wonderful. I am overjoyed you and Dr. Peterson will be in New England next year, close enough for me to come see Dr. Peterson speak for the first time! Hoping SO MUCH that the mold treatment is going well for you and Dr. Peterson and could lead to some relief of pain and inflammation. So unspeakably happy for you both to be with Mikhaila and the grands, born and unborn, at this time. I myself am listening to this podcast whilst home with sick kiddos. With Ruth Anne’s love. ❤

[@murphymomof9]

Great conversation! Thank you for having Dr. Guinness on, Tammy. I truly enjoyed him in the Exodus series. Love hearing more from him. You look absolutely beautiful, by the way. What a gorgeous color on you!

[@AFringedGentian]

Dearest Tammy, I just heard that you lost your Dad. My heart goes out to you. Here’s a gentle hug. May his memory be for a blessing. Also Mikhaila’s baby is so, so, so precious. In the midst of life, we are in death; in the midst of death, we are in life. So very much love from Ruth Anne.

[@jenniferflower9265]

Tammy looks beautiful in blue. She just radiates.❤

[@gildasomia3461]

Stunning colour on you Tammy! Let your light shine 🌟

[@GraceHarwood88]

I’m very sorry for the loss of your father Tammy 🌹 May his memory forever be a blessing🍀

[@SA61977]

Dr Os Guinness is such a wonderful Christian intellectual.

[@danapriess8860]

I really regret looking back that I thought my strength, my health, and my deeds were being done through myself. I know now that it was all gifts of God. Now, in my weakness, I am so grateful for the way he made me strong and healthy. Anything I am able to do now is through God's grace, love, and mercy. Glory to our loving, God almighty.

[@kellyt4447]

So beautiful Tammy! I wish the world would listen! God Bless!

[@littlefarmlover]

He is just so wise and kind. I love him!

[@dearally4787]

I discovered Os Guinness on JP’s Exodus series. His family’s missionary, medical, and evangelistic history is so interesting to me. I wish Os or someone else would write an in-depth book on his family.

[@ye4us]

OS' story about what his parents went through is. Wow.

[@Serving.God.And.Humanity]

Outstanding and remarkable conversation with Dr. Oz Guinness‼️💯✝️🕊🙏❤️ Our victory is in the blood of Jesus, in the authority of Jesus, and in the anointing of Jesus! We are anointed to share the Truth of God’s Word to a dying and hopeless world. ✝️🕊🙏❤️💯 ✝️ Revelation 12:11 (NKJV) “They conquered, triumphed, overcame him (evil) by the BLOOD OF THE LAMB (JESUS CHRIST) and by the word of their TESTIMONY.” ✝️🕊🙏❤️💯

[@julieredmond5192]

This is my second comment. I was looking forward to listening to this video. I knew I would like it because I love both Tammy and Os. Now that I have listened I just have to say that this conversation was just thrilling. It is one of the best conversations I have heard. I recently read Os’s book “Signals of Transcendence.” I have been thinking about it ever since. I expected to hear wonderful things from Os, and Tammy you added so much wisdom to the conversation. I loved the prayer and story at the end: “Lord set over us leaders such that it will be for your glory to give the victory through them today.” I prayed that prayer and will continue to pray it. Such a great prayer. Thank you for this encouragement. I will be sharing this with gusto! Bravo!

[@honahwikeepa2115]

Got to have dinner with Dr Guinness at L'Abri Sydney Australia. Great thinker.

[@JSMI]

Glory To God For These Podcasts

[@joolz5747]

I love listening to these interviews from people that are in love with God

[@julieredmond5192]

Oh goody! This is so exciting!! Two people I love talking together🤗

[@hoobyhoo]

Thank you, Tammy! Again, topics necessary, but not being heard!! ❤

[@karlbrettig9748]

Thank you for doing this podcast and the courage to respond to the call on your life. Os Guinness has been a great source of wisdom over many years with his insights into the cultural challenges in which we keep finding ourselves, tracing their origins and pointing us to the alternative way of the true Master.

[@ricoparadiso]

Amazing talk, Dr. Os brings some great references to reflect on.

[@nancykisich3263]

I love this guy from the biblical convos!

[@maryfitzpatrick8383]

One of the best discussions I ever listened to - and I have listened to a lot. Thank you. Mary Behan (previously, Mary Fitzpatrick).

[@AnaAna-vg4ne]

I love that prayer! Imma adopt it, thank you :)

[@yac2617]

Ohhh thank you so much for this!!! I am loving it. Thank you for making this possible you are an encouraging woman 🫶🏼

[@Romans15.32]

Tammy and Os, this was a wonderful presentation. I thank you both for your inciteful remarks. Loved it.

[@nancykisich3263]

This is the best talk I’ve ever heard. Thank you

[@1111YDROXOOS]

Thank you❤

[@greenhornet5186]

Thank you for this interview. O Guinness is one of my favorite thinkers.

[@urantiawisdom]

"Jesus prayed for unity among his followers, but he did not desire uniformity. Sin creates a dead level of evil inertia, but righteousness nourishes the creative spirit of individual experience in the living realities of eternal truth and in the progressive communion of the divine spirits of the Father and the Son. In the spiritual fellowship of the believer-son with the divine Father there can never be doctrinal finality and sectarian superiority of group consciousness." The Urantia Book, Paper 182, Section 1. Thank you, Tammy Peterson and Dr. Os Guinness, and God bless you both.

[@camillaluckey4136]

Rabbi Saks was mentioned. Since his death I have discovered many contemporary rabbinic voices with amazing insight. One to try is R. Breitowitz of Yiboneh in Jerusalem, esp his podcasts pist October 7. Also, besides aish’ werkly contributors, are the contributors to Torah Tidbits, an OU publication in Jerusalem.

[@beam3819]

This talk about where we as a culture, as humans stands today, is the most exellent explaination I have heard in a long time. Please, if you need spiritual fooder; CFC India,( Zac poonen) Thank you both. Norway.

[@user-xb2ii1vo5n]

I’m so happy you started a podcast 😊

[@0_3_6_9_0]

Thank you Guinness and Tammy for such a deep enlightening discussion on meaning. I appreciate this step 38:18 but we might also consider this in the long term 14:11 Minecraft on steroids.

[@margueritespringer3687]

Thank you for the prayer

[@lanestewart80]

Wow!

[@danielbyrnes5446]

1:09 Become who you can become has an inherent danger. It often leads to cultishness because it starts with the premise that you are not good enough but someone who has done more becoming can show you the way. This cultivates the soul in a way leads to dependency on a daddy figure. It feels good in the short term because it gives you a sense of direction. In the long term, however, it leads to a ramish butting of the heads over who has done the best becoming, which is ultimately just an ego trip. Don't worry, Jesus has got you. Love your neighbour. Be good to each other. Game on.

[@festivetosho7376]

The storied about the back-to-back horrors in China is mind boggling. And I read "Fangshen" in high school, and wrote a college paper about the Nanjing Massacre.

[@audreybee2410]

Jordan Fuller for President!!!

[@micgarn3331]

Tammy you and Jordan Are simply beautiful ❤

[@danielbyrnes5446]

7:11 By crisis of meaning, Mr Guiness, do you mean people's being at cross purposes in life? If you'll permit me, much of my suffering comes from the purpose to which others put me and not from a failure to have a purpose for myself. In fact, the healthiest and most joyful period in my life was the pandemic, as I was relased from being a cog in another man's money making machine for just a little while. I actually had the freedom to void my bowels when they needed to be voided. How wonderful. Whatismore, It allowed me to pursue studies and exercise as needed to maintain health. It was the healtiest and happiest period of my life. A problem for me is that I am used as an entry in a ledger, a person whose very existence is to add to the ease and accumulation of wealth in situations that are detrimental to my health and well-being for the another person's benefit. So many of us are reduced to a mere economic function by our so-called betters and berated for not enjoying it. It is what it is, my friend.

[@danielbyrnes5446]

11:43 How are we supposed to raise a family when so many of the new homes are being bought up by investment firms? This reassertion of tradition you are calling for is actively thwarted by economic trends. Are you trying to give people an improbable mission to stoke frustration to create a war? Because without changes to macroeconomic trends around property holding, what you are encouraging is impracticable and likely to lead to violence, or increased Guiness consumption. Either way, not bad for you, eh

[@StringofPearls55]

My neighbors are Romanians and were imprisoned for trying to escape. Insane.

[@Pacdoc-oz]

Dear Tammy, we are forever barred from the garden of Eden, it was lost and lost forever. The work of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus opened the way to paradise, vastly more wonderful.

[@audreybee2410]

Tammy, besides having more kids, it’s hard to know the line between being a responsible parent and being overprotective. Could you please help me see the difference?

[@LenaCabana]

❤

[@JackAtkins-xz5wi]

Every weapon on earth will be surrendered to me and nobody else.…

[@danielbyrnes5446]

7:40 Why can't many fathers afford to be fathers? Both parents are working so much just to keep the family afloat, there is little time to parent for many of us.

[@danielbyrnes5446]

5:59 Mrs. Peterson, it is merely a breakdown in the comminication chain and good faith. These darned lighboxes have habituated us to putting out a message and being alert for validation, which is not real communication. When we rediscover a sincere desire to understand our interlocuter and the skills to carry it out, all shall be well again. Mr. Guiness' parents are correct. God has all in ✋ ✋ ✋. Don't panic.

[@TheConorconor]

The Toronto Oratory awaits Jordan Peterson.

[@whirledpeas2514]

What is the meaning of that ⁉️

[@CristianaCatolica]

ONLY GOD JESUSCHRIST AND HIS ONE AND ONLY CATHOLIC CHURCH CAN GIVE US MEANING ❤

[@danielbyrnes5446]

6:15 We must hold on to each other for God's sake. He made us a dimorphic species and made us with souls capable of communion for a reason. Have faith. And please stop telling people we are all lost and at war. Most people know where they are until they spend so much time being told they are lost that they haven't the freedom to work it out. It is not good or Godly to cultivate a war within a person's soul only to give them the peace that comes with the certainty of being told who to fight. However enriching it may be for the man who profits thereby, it is not what the good Lord made us for. It not of the Holy Spirit. It is an abuse of scripture.

[@royhiggins7270]

I felt moved to share this personal true testimony. God told me this story is important for the evil atheist demoncrats to hear but I hope it edifies all the super loving Christians as well as my fellow Saints and Trump supporters. I was doing my morning ocean swim in shallow water when I was attacked by a shark and I barely made it back to shore. A large part of my thigh was missing and I was losing so much blood...I knew I was a goner and would never be able to make it for help. But then out of nowhere a surfer showed up, he looked exactly like Jesus, the white version. On that day I witnessed one set of foot prints in the sand leading away from where I laid. I called out..."hey Jesus looking dude...are you just going to just leave me here"? And he said.."do you know how much you weigh...hell yeah". And then I died. But don't worry I came back three days later. Proof! How could I have written this if I didn't come back from the dead? The End. By the way, I did find the Jesus looking dude after I came back from the dead. Ironically his name was Jesus but with the Spanish pronunciation. He was in awe of my miracle recovery from death and has become one of my apostles. I am sure my story will be written about in about a hundred years. Now is a great time to get in on the ground floor...I am sure there is a lot of money to be made.ere now is my personal testimony.

[@freshbutterfly]

Surely you have more productive ways to spend your time aside from trolling Tammy Peterson

[@SA61977]

You sound deranged.

[@danielbyrnes5446]

0:50 Isn't the will to power more Nieztchean. That is not post-modern. The trouble with post-modernism is that it replaced analytic philosophy, which gave us a shared framework for the discussion of objective reality and a means for ascertaining truth, with sophistry and dilettantism. I am sorry Mr. Frenchman, you can teach an Enlishman how to cook (not how to enjoy sensuality like you, we are not built that way), but you can't hold a candle to our philosophical endeavour and political common sense. It is not that we need to make everyone run back to religion en masse to find meaning, though it is good because a life honouring and replicating the essence of love with our rational faculty is good, because this way lies authoritarianism amd the abandomemt not rediscovery of freedom from sophistical claptrap. What we need is to move beyond the exploitation of philosophy as a means to an end other than truth for its own sake. Enough sophistry with the laudable goal of ending prejudice and discrimination, though we ought not give up on extirpating prejudice and discrimination.

[@danielbyrnes5446]

0:23 You used two different meanings of meaning, purpose and linguistic sign. Please disambiguate your use of language in order to better support your claim. Perhaps the real crisis of meaning is that you don't know the meanings of meaning well enough to speak meaningfully.

[@wolfthequarrelsome504]

What tf is this about?

[@danielbyrnes5446]

What you are calling for is impracticable with the current macroeconomic trends around property holding. How are we supposed to raise a family when we can't afford a home in which to raise one? Are you trying to stoke a war? Because by calling for a return to tradition that is actively thwarted by economic policy, you are likely to get frustrated people who go to war against their own society. Or, perhaps they will just drink more guiness, either way not bad for your remaining years, eh!

[@dianamarie1652]

Yoga is not good and it’s not God

[@virginiacharlotte7007]

It goes against Catholic doctrine. I think Mrs Peterson will be learning more about it through RCIA

[@dianamarie1652]

@@virginiacharlotte7007 amen

[@tambrown2607]

Just love these two together…. Thank you for this conversation, very interesting to listen to 🙏🩷🙏