Os Guinness: The Magna Carta of Humanity

A conversation between Os Guinness and Socrates in the City host Eric Metaxas regarding Mr. Guinness' recent books: "The Magna Carta of Humanity" and "Zero Dark America."
Os Guinness, author and speaker, is the great-great grandson of Arthur Guinness, the Dublin brewer. He was born in China in World War II where his parents were medical missionaries. A witness to the climax of the Chinese revolution in 1949, he was expelled with many other foreigners in 1951 and returned to Europe where he was educated in England. He completed his undergraduate degree at the University of London and his D.Phil. in the social sciences from Oriel College, Oxford. In the late 1960s, Guinness was a leader at the L’Abri community in Switzerland and, after Oxford, a freelance reporter for the BBC.
Guinness has written or edited more than thirty books, including The America Hour; Time for Truth; The Call; Invitation to the Classics; Long Journey Home; Unspeakable: Facing Up to Evil in a World of Genocide and Terror; The Case for Civility - And Why Our Future Depends on It; The Global Public Square: Religious Freedom and the Making of a World Safe for Diversity; and A Free People’s Suicide: Sustainable Freedom and the American Future.
A frequent speaker and seminar leader at political and business conferences in both the United States and Europe. He has also lectured at many universities, including Oxford and Cambridge, Harvard and Stanford, and has spoken at the White House, Capitol Hill and other public policy arenas around Washington D.C. area.
This event took place at the Union League Club in New York City on December 6th, 2022. Learn more about Socrates in the City at socratesinthecity.com.

[@georgewagner7787]

My grandparents generation loved freedom and Jesus. We need to bring this back.

[@unitieronsoul34]

I wholeheartedly agree🙏

[@Ben942K]

More freedom, less jesus.

[@kimjensen5563]

@@Ben942K freedom and Jesus go hand in hand. Who brought the people into the land of milk and honey, other than God’s servant Moses? We need Jesus for freedom’s sake.

[@Ben942K]

@@kimjensen5563 I hate to break it to you, but that's just a mythological story and it didn't happen. Freedom does not look like disposing of people because they live on the land you want. That's what Moses lead the people to do. You are aware that we call that genocide today, right?

[@b.r.holmes6365]

Help it happen

[@mrjezzk]

so glad they are doing these again!

[@amerbur]

Thank you so much. I have purchased your book. I have been struggling to figure out not only what has happened to America but how it happened. I had no idea that the current ideas which saturate our educational system came from the French Revolution. How could I have missed so much? My adult children rejected everything that I believe after attending college. I could not figure out how this happened, but I am beginning to piece it together.

[@gregorytoews8316]

I too, have become very interested in how our culture came to it's current situation. You may also want to read Carl Trueman's book; The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self. A bit technical, but a great explanation. I've also discovered how naive I've been. The fact I'm surprised by certain trends in our culture means I haven't been paying attention, or reading the right authors. Dostoyevsky, and GK Chesterton, writing 120-150 years ago predicted our current situation. Chesterton's quote in particular; "Fires will be kindled to testify that two and two make four. Swords will be drawn to prove that leaves are green in summer." is startling in it's prescience.

[@marchess286]

@@gregorytoews8316 - Trueman is excellent

[@vgil1278]

Mine, too. In fact, they seem to purposely reject everything I believe.

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

leftism: Otherwise known as “progressivism” and even more inaccurately as “liberalism”, leftism is a term originating from the French Revolution of 1789, in reference to the political faction that opposed the French (so-called) king. However, the term is currently used in common discourse to describe those criminals who actively support (or at least tacitly condone) a host of OBJECTIVELY-WICKED ideologies and practices that contravene dharma, such as non-monarchical governances and corrupt economic systems (particularly socialism, communism, fascism, and liberal democracies), egalitarianism, feminism, perverse sexuality (especially homosexuality, bestiality, and transvestism), multiculturalism, and the illegitimate abortion of innocent, defenceless, unborn children. Cf. “dharma”. In the past decade or two, the mass media, especially the motion picture industry and television production companies, has been aggressively promoting all the above CRIMINAL ideologies and practices, helping to expedite the destruction of human civilization. Recently, large corporations have jumped on the leftist bandwagon (so to speak), in order to profit. As explicated in Chapter 11 of this “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”, the state of being of any particular human (or any other animal for that matter) is due entirely to his or her genetic sequencing and his or her conditioning. Therefore, the explosion of the leftist/liberal mentality in recent decades, particularly in Western countries, has been caused by poor breeding strategies overtaking the more conservative tradition of mate-selection of previous centuries (and indeed, millennia). In other words, due to the fact that criminal behaviour (especially the deviant sexual acts mentioned above) has become increasingly more tolerated, condoned, and even GLORIFIED in most countries, there has been a proliferation of corrupt genetic codes within the wider human population. According to genealogists, for (almost) the entire history of humanity, most women have successfully reproduced, whilst a far far smaller percentage of males have bequeathed their genetic sequence to proceeding generations. Due to the gradual phasing-out of polygamous marriages in even the most conservative societies, as well as the eradication of poverty in most every country, more and more men (as well as women) have been producing offspring. Thus, the human genome has rapidly become adulterated by inferior genetic material (that is, DNA from truly pathetic, uxorious beta-males, bisexuals, and even homosexual couples who engage surrogate mothers or sperm donors in order to conceive children - something of a rare occurrence in previous centuries/millennia). Unsurprisingly, the majority of leftists find it difficult to accept the fact that their criminal mentality is largely inherited (and of course, they are unwilling to acknowledge the blatantly-obvious fact that their ideologies and practices are intrinsically sinful, wicked, evil, and immoral in the first place). It seems the consensus amongst leftist "intellectuals" is that every human mental trait is due entirely to one's environmental conditioning, rather than as a consequence of BOTH one's genetic sequence and one’s conditioning - a fundamentally-flawed assertion that cannot be scientifically-supported. This term was very reluctantly used in the chapter on feminism. I say “reluctantly” because it is unlikely that the term will perdure for many decades longer. This is simple deductive logic, since, as clearly demonstrated in certain chapters in “F.I.S.H”, human civilization cannot survive with such leftist practices and ideologies in place. If you happen to be reading this Holy Scripture a century or more after its conception, you will probably be residing in a nation (as opposed to a country) ruled by a monarch, following the implosion of post-modern, decadent societies. So, either the term “leftism” will eventually become redundant and obsolete, or else, human civilization will devolve into a decadent, diseased state of existence similar to that of the prehistoric era, when the peoples of the world resided in caves or shacks, subsisting on whatever food can be sourced from the surrounding bushland. I trust that you who are reading these wise words will endeavour to influence your social circles to adhere to right-leaning ideologies, such as monarchical governance, an entirely free-market economy, sexual purity, and all other virtuous principles. Fear not, for GOD is with you! P.S. As a general rule, it seems (at least anecdotally) that the farther left-leaning is a person, the more physically (and of course, psychologically) UGLY is that person. Unfortunately, that doesn’t seem to prevent leftists from propagating their mutant genes. 🤡

[@janetclark5668]

@@gregorytoews8316 I'm reading Chesterton's The Everlasting Man. He's a genius. Agree with Marc -- Trueman sets out a good framework.

[@endelmanj]

"Don't let evil conquer you, but conquer evil by doing good." Romans 12:21 Let's get busy 🙏❣️

[@adamburgess8511]

Nice one, thanks

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

Good and bad are RELATIVE. 😉 Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

[@PsychonautInstitute]

​@@ReverendDr.ThomasWhile good opposes evil, ignorance is irrelevant.

[@johnhaggerty4396]

Mr Guinness links the foundation of the U.S. Republic with the Hebrew Republic, something we have forgotten entirely. My copy of his first book, The Dust of Death, is still on my bookshelves. From his early experiences in China till now, he has much to teach us.

[@RonaldAnthonyArcher]

I wish Eric would just let Os talk rather than talking so much trying to steer the interview. Still,very rich & profound discussion.

[@evelynmcmenamin4330]

My Australian grand parents were missionaries in China giving up wealth to serve the Lord they had to escape when the communists came Grandpa spoke mandarin and always loved the Chinese

[@cypresse1620]

I am a Chinese Christian and I thank you and your family’s sacrifice ❤

[@aaabbb-py5xd]

@Cypress E Lol, and as an actual Chinese, I demand to know exactly what qualifies you as a Chinese and not the usual "Model Race"? Is it your fervent stance against "free world" encroachment or your unfaltering will to parse the subtleties that the "free world" wilfully brushes under the table? And do you ever wonder why the "free world" openly states, "give them our religion, and then they become our bitches", not a quote of course, but the message has been accurately conveyed. Please explain yourself out of this groveling behavior of yours characteristic of the "Chinese" faithful, so faithful that your translation of the Bible reads like utter trash.

[@aaabbb-py5xd]

Yes, your parents might've given up relative wealth, but it was at best to serve your lord and not the Chinese. You might squirm about and try a rebuttal, but the readers will have seen the routine before. For example, when an American tells the French that his American company is actually French and for France, the French eventually learned that what sounded like bullshit was bullshit. In any event, because they were to serve your lord and not the Chinese, the Communists rightfully ejected yo ass for not pledging to become the "Model Race" of China , in other words, do as I say not as I do. Lastly, you're abusing the word love because it's the same kind that the christians held for the native americans. So do stop your drama.

[@zgobermn6895]

Very fascinating and relevant conversation! Thanks Eric and Os.

[@patticarey9016]

Outstanding conversation! Os Guinness is an intellectual giant. I personally think the USA is on life support and it's only a matter of time before she takes her last gasp.

[@b.r.holmes6365]

Conservative regions can stave off disaster and keep liberty.

[@PsychonautInstitute]

Hold ourselves as accountable. If America loses it's democracy entirely it will be your fault.

[@avemason9981]

I admit I have to check my dictionary sometimes when you have Oz on..! Fascinating conversation & so many truths. When you questioned the Exodus, that was the main point of whole talk. In all societies, it goes back to it. We are there again. We have gone beyond Sodom & Gomorrah. The founders , were as us, flawed, but we’re closer to God and the covenant He designed with them. We are far from it and a u-turn is coming. Thank you for this conversation Eric.

[@rose5566]

This talk was POWERFUL. Thank you 🙏. Everyone needs to hear this and really listen and comprehend✨

[@racheleaggleston6410]

This explanation is point on. Civilization is history.

[@robertpreisser3547]

The Golden Triangle also understands not only human nature, but the nature of Governments. The Founders understood that Governments are ordained by God to punish bad behavior, but cannot motivate people to WANT to police themselves. Which is why they knew the Church was the only organization capable of instilling virtue in people. But they also linked these concepts. They understood that UNLESS the “free” people were willing to police themselves, then the Government would tend to have to step in and limit freedom by the threat of force. Which is what we are seeing today. When citizens are abusing the notion of “freedom” and using it as an excuse to do literally any destructive behavior, the State has to insert itself ever more into the lives of people. The founders recognized that tyranny is the INEVITABLE result of people refusing to police themselves.

[@gongosama6757]

Excellent, thank you for taking time to share your thoughts 👏🏻👏🏻🤗

[@markstokes3685]

Seems more like, people are being facilitated and encourages to behave badly, in order, to garner support and justify Governmental crackdowns on freedom and liberty

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

🐟 22. ILLEGITIMATE GOVERNANCES: SOCIALISM (and its more extreme form, communism) is intrinsically evil, because it is based on the ideology of social and economic egalitarianism, which is both a theoretical and a practical impossibility. Equality exists solely in abstract concepts such as mathematics and arguably in the sub-atomic realm. Many proponents of socialism argue that it is purely an economic system and therefore independent of any particular form of governance. However, it is inconceivable that socialism/communism could be implemented on a nationwide scale without any form of government intervention. If a relatively small number of persons wish to unite in order to form a commune or worker-cooperative, that is their prerogative, but it could never work in a country with a large population, because there will always exist entrepreneurs desirous of engaging in wealth-building enterprises. Even a musician who composes a hit tune wants his song to succeed and earn him inordinate wealth. Socialism reduces individual citizens to utilities, who, in practice, are used to support the ruling elite, who are invariably despotic scoundrels, and very far from ideal leaders (i.e. compassionate and righteous monarchs). Those citizens who display talent in business or the arts are either oppressed, or their gifts are coercively utilized by the corrupt state. Despite purporting to be a fair and equitable system of wealth distribution, those in leadership positions seem to live a far more luxurious lifestyle than the mass of menial workers. Wealth is effectively stolen from the rich. Most destructively, virtuous and holy teachings (“dharma”, in Sanskrit) are repressed by the irreligious and ILLEGITIMATE “government”. The argument that some form of government WELFARE programme is essential to aid those who are unable to financially-support themselves for reasons beyond their control, is fallacious. A righteous ruler (i.e. a saintly monarch) will ensure the welfare of each and every citizen by encouraging private welfare. There is no need for a king to extort money from his subjects in order to feed and clothe the impoverished. Of course, in the highly-unlikely event that civilians are unwilling to help a person in dire straits, the king would step-in to assist that person, as one would expect from a patriarch (father of his people). The head of any nation ought to be the penultimate patriarch, not a selfish buffoon. DEMOCRACY is almost as evil, because, just as the rabble favoured the murderous Barabbas over the good King Jesus, the ignorant masses will overwhelmingly vote for the candidate which promises to fulfil their inane desires, rather than one which will enforce the law, and promote a wholesome and just society. Read Chapter 12 for the most authoritative and concise exegesis of law, morality, and ethics, currently available. Even in the miraculous scenario where the vast majority of the population are holy and righteous citizens, it is still immoral for them to vote for a seemingly-righteous leader. This is because that leader will not be, by definition, a king. As clearly and logically explicated in the previous chapter of this Holy Scripture, MONARCHY is the only lawful form of governance. If an elected ruler is truly righteous, he will not be able to condone the fact that the citizens are paying him to perform a job (which is a working-class role), and that an inordinate amount of time, money and resources are being wasted on political campaigning. Furthermore, an actual ruler does not wimpishly pander to voters - he takes power by (divinely-mandated) force, as one would expect from the penultimate alpha-male in society (the ultimate alpha-male being a priest). The thought of children voting for who will be their parents or teachers, would seem utterly RIDICULOUS to the average person, yet most believe that they are qualified to choose their own ruler - they are most assuredly not. Just as a typical child fails to understand that a piece of sweet, juicy, healthy, delicious fruit is more beneficial for them than a cone of pus-infested, fattening, diabetes-inducing ice-cream, so too can the uneducated proletariat not understand that they are unqualified to choose their own leader, even after it is logically explained to them (as it is in this chapter, as well as in the previous chapter). And by “uneducated”, it is simply meant that they are misguided in the realities of life and in righteous living (“dharma”, in Sanskrit), not in facts and figures or in technical training. Intelligence doesn't necessarily correlate to wisdom. No socialist or democratic government will educate its citizens sufficiently well that the citizens have the knowledge of how to usurp their rule. To put it frankly, democracy is rule by the “lowest common denominator”. It should be obvious that ANARCHY can never ever succeed, because even the smallest possible social unit (the nuclear family) requires a dominator. Any family will fall-apart without a strict male household head. In fact, without the husband/father, there is no family, by definition. The English noun “husband” comes from the Old Norse word “hûsbôndi”, meaning “master of the house”. The same paradigm applies to the extended family, which depends on a strong patriarchal figure (customarily, the eldest or most senior male). Likewise with clans, tribes, villages, towns, cities, and nations or countries. Unfortunately, there are many otherwise-intelligent persons who honestly believe that an ENTIRE country can smoothly run without a leader in place. Any sane person can easily understand that even a nuclear family is unable to function properly without a head of the house, what to speak of a populous nation. The reason for anarchists' distrust of any kind of government is due to the corrupt nature of democratic governments, and the adulteration of the monarchy in recent centuries. However, if anarchists were to understand that most all so-called “kings/queens” in recent centuries were not even close to being true monarchs, they may change their stance on that inane “system”. Most of the problems in human society are directly or indirectly attributable to this relatively modern phenomenon (non-monarchies), since it is the government’s role and sacred DUTY to enforce the law (see Chapter 12), and non-monarchical governments are themselves unlawful. One of the many sinister characteristics of democracy, socialism, and other evil forms of governance, is the desire for their so-called “leaders” to control, or at least influence, the private lives of every single citizen (hence the term “Nanny State”). For example, in the wicked, decadent nations in which this holy scripture was composed, The Philippine Islands and The Southland (or “Australia”, as it is known in the Latin tongue), the DEMONIC governments try, and largely succeed, in controlling the rights of parents to properly raise, discipline and punish their children according to their own morals, compulsory vaccination of infants, enforcing feminist ideology, limiting legitimate powers an employer has over his servants, subsidizing animal agriculture, persecuting religious leaders (even to imprisonment and death, believe it or not. Personally, I have been jailed thrice for executing God’s perfect and pure will), and even trying to negatively influence what people eat and wear. Not that a government shouldn’t control what its citizens wear in public, but it should ensure that they are MODESTLY dressed, according to the guidelines outlined in Chapter 28, which is hardly the case in Australia, the Philippines, and similar nations. At least ninety-nine per cent of Filipinas, for instance, are transvestinal, despite Philippines pretending to be a religious nation. Cont...

[@wallyreyes8876]

Eric saying your father shared this with you was sad. How could he not grasp Deuteronomy ch 28 and seed time and harvest time. History shows christian persecutions are common in all of human history.

[@lorelynleisure4048]

Thank you! I pray that this information goes far and wide and helps to wake people up. My childrens' generation is so lost.

[@jopappas5090]

Classic cool socks, Eric. I am looking forward to hearing from Os Guinness, a great thinker & writer.

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

Great and lowly are RELATIVE. 😉 Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

[@cypresse1620]

Please consider a speaker tour in the uk - we need such message here!

[@ng9291]

Throughly enjoyed this conversation! Thank you!

[@ej3fm494]

Thanks for the upload. Very Timely and Informative.

[@LynnColorado]

Absolutely crucial for millions to see this.

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

Because? 🤔

[@LynnColorado]

@@ReverendDr.Thomas We're on a precipice of losing our Judeo-Christian culture to atheistic authoritarianism.

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

authoritarian: essentially, a synonym for “dictator”. Just as in the case of the term “dictator”, this word is most often used as a description of a leader or ruler who imposes his or her own will upon a population, almost exclusively in a negative way. HOWEVER, it is imperative to understand that the term “authoritarian” originates from the root “author”, which simply refers to one who creates or originates something, via the word “authority”, which means the right to give orders, make decisions, and enforce obedience. Therefore, genuine authoritarianism is a dharmic concept, because when one exercises his or her authority over his/her subordinates, it contributes to social cohesion. Indeed, human society cannot survive without proper authoritarian systems in place. It is absolutely imperative to very carefully read the Glossary entries for “dharma” and “authority” in this regards. authority: the right to give orders, make decisions, and enforce obedience. See the Glossary entry for “author” for the etymology. The notion of AUTHORITY is intimately connected to the person or body which originates something. The author of a novel is, by definition, the preeminent AUTHORITY over his work. He has the AUTHORITY to dictate how his book ought to be published, promoted, and distributed. Furthermore, he as the AUTHORITY to delegate such rights to another person or company, if he desires. Likewise, a mother has full AUTHORITY over the children she (pro)creates. No sane individual would ever dare presume that a mother has no AUTHORITY over her own offspring! Similarly, as the head of his family, a father has the AUTHORITY to direct the actions of his wife/wives and his children. Of course, that father is not the ultimate authority on earth - he has his own masters, such as his own father, his uncles, his employer (if he is a worker), and most importantly, his spiritual master, all of whom should exercise their authoritative positions in relation to that father. Similarly, a true king (as defined in Chapter 21) has conditional AUTHORITY over his people, even if not every single one of his edicts is perfectly in accordance with dharmic (righteous) principles. A monarch’s AUTHORITY is compromised only in the case that his rule sufficiently devolves into some kind of unholy, fascistic tyranny. And if a king’s dominion was to devolve into such a tyranny, it would suggest that he was never a genuine monarch in the first place. Unfortunately, authority is often conflated with the notion of power, by both the masses, and in most dictionaries. Theoretically, any person or organization can display a force of power over another entity, yet that does not necessarily signify AUTHORITY. Thankfully, power does not always correlate with AUTHORITY. If that was the case, humble, gentle monks such as Gautama Buddha and Lord Jesus the Christ would, of necessity, have very little AUTHORITY, whereas powerful governments would have the AUTHORITY to dictate imperatives to its citizens, when in fact they do not, as they are almost exclusively illegitimate (that is, against the law, or dharma). N. B. Read Chapters 21 and 22 of the most important work of literature ever conceived ("A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”), to understand the distinction between a legitimate government and an illegal government.

[@kathyd456]

​@@ReverendDr.Thomaswatching in 2024, my answer to you is, wisdom is sorely lacking in the west and more of these conversations need to be played, the west needs this wisdom. You are free to take it or leave it.

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

@@LynnColorado authoritarian: essentially, a synonym for “dictator” (see that entry, below). Just as in the case of the term “dictator”, this word is most often used as a descriptor for a leader or a ruler who imposes his or her own will upon a population, almost exclusively in a NEGATIVE way. HOWEVER, it is important to understand that the term “authoritarian” originates from the root “author”, which simply refers to one who creates or originates something, via the word “authority”, which entails the right to give orders, make decisions, and enforce obedience. Therefore, genuine authoritarianism is a dharmic concept, because when one exercises his or her authority over his/her subordinates, it contributes to social cohesion. Indeed, human society cannot survive without proper authoritarian systems in place. It is absolutely imperative to very carefully read the Glossary entries for “dharma” and “authority” in this regard. Therefore, it is strongly suggested that English speakers use words such as “fascistic” and “tyrannical”, instead of using the unfairly-deprecatory terms “authoritarian” and “dictator”, in reference to rulers who exercise ILLEGITIMATE dominance over a populace. authority: the right to give orders, make decisions, and enforce obedience. See the Glossary entry for “author” for the etymology. The notion of AUTHORITY is intimately connected to the person or body that originates something. The author of a novel is, by definition, the preeminent AUTHORITY over his work. He has the AUTHORITY to dictate how his book ought to be published, promoted, and distributed. Furthermore, he has the AUTHORITY to delegate such rights to another person or company, if he desires. Likewise, a mother has full AUTHORITY over the children she (pro)creates. No sane individual would ever dare presume that a mother has no AUTHORITY over her own offspring! Similarly, as the head of his family, a father has the AUTHORITY to direct the actions of his wife/wives and his children. Of course, that father is not the ultimate authority on earth - he has his own masters, such as his own father, his uncles, his employer (if he is a worker), and most importantly, his spiritual master, all of whom should exercise their authoritative positions in relation to that father. Similarly, a true king (as defined in Chapter 21) has conditional AUTHORITY over his people, even if not every single one of his edicts is perfectly in accordance with dharmic (righteous) principles. A monarch’s AUTHORITY is compromised only in the event that his rule sufficiently devolves into some kind of unholy, fascistic tyranny. And if a king’s dominion was to devolve into such a tyranny, it would robustly imply that he was never a genuine monarch in the first place. Unfortunately, *authority* is often conflated with the notion of *power* , by both the masses, and in most dictionaries. Theoretically, any person or organization can display a force of power over another entity, yet that does not necessarily signify AUTHORITY. Thankfully, power does not always correlate with AUTHORITY. If that was the case, humble, gentle monks such as Gautama Buddha and Lord Jesus the Christ would, of necessity, have very little AUTHORITY, whereas powerful governments would have the AUTHORITY to dictate imperatives to its citizens, when in fact they do not, as they are almost exclusively illegitimate (that is, against the law, or dharma). N.B. Read Chapters 21 and 22 to understand the distinction between a legitimate government and an illegal government.

[@karlbrettig9748]

Thank you Tammy for this excellent podcast and for responding to the call on your life. Os has been a great source of wisdom for many over many years in giving clarity to the cultural mess in which we find ourselves. He keeps bringing us back to the feet of the true Master and Redeemer we all need in our lives.

[@ruthmaryrose]

What an eye opening interview revealing so much of why things are happening but I can’t help feeling like it’s an autopsy.

[@rose5566]

God Bless you 🙏 Os Guinness and Eric M.✨

[@AudreyRusso]

Brilliant discussions, as always! Would love to see SITC in the Nashville area, for those of us born-and-bred NYers who moved here recently. Please do consider it when you take SITC on the road!

[@kimjensen5563]

Eric Metaxas Eccl 9:18 This program was fabulous! Will share! Agree, we need passionate teachers who know how to capture an urgent need! This was very challenging/time consuming to find workable comments not blocked. I hope this went and continues to go viral…perhaps the powers that be will behave differently. Our weapons are Not carnal. Read prophetically & a call to prayer! Stand tall America!

[@leedufour]

Thanks Os and Eric!

[@dwightdonnelly8662]

To see a full room inspires hope! I pray more Americans will wake up!

[@robertchapman6795]

This must explain my affinity with Guinness beer! 🍻😋

[@friendofjesus1680]

very informative talk thank you

[@rampartranger7749]

“Every school shooting has a gun, yes, but more deeply, every school shooting has a loner. What are we doing about that?”

[@nielknox]

Thank you

[@noahvale2627]

Golden triangle sounds just like Dennis Pragers American trinity, found on every coin. E pluribus unum, liberty, and in God we trust.

[@MCHRQRD]

I usually listen 2X, but this took me to .75x. Meaty work!

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

Meaty? You are urged to become VEGAN, since carnism (the destructive ideology that supports the use and consumption of animal products, especially for “food”) is arguably the foremost existential crisis.🌱

[@alinucalinuc4124]

What a wise man is the guest!

[@justinleavens]

All we need to do is each one of us, men, to repent. To go into our garages, take the chalk, draw a circle, then step into the center of the circle, and declare, from the heart, "Lord, begin with me."

[@tsparks4133]

"...and its time to put a stop to them." Here, here!

[@thomasLivesInANewCountryNow]

24:55 fascinating. On the same path same wavelength.

[@samuelmatz]

Thomas Sowell : his life's work (books/interviews) was highlighting what is good and bad.

[@timothyaure9602]

Some of mine, also. The thing that saddens me most is they don't appreciate or value the unique blessings and freedoms we have today ... even my wife who had a premium education at Oral Roberts, with a full scholarship and graduated magma cum laude. I feel like I'm out in the weeds calling out wolf!🥺😖😞

[@D.E.Metcalf]

1:09:34 interesting point on how the Jews built schools in light of the need to retell their story. This parallels what Abraham Kuyper taught in his article in Pro Rege volume 3 regarding the founding on Christian schools in the Netherlands.

[@marchess286]

Not just schools. We teach in our homes via rituals which narrate our history. See the work of the late Rabbi Lord Jonathan Sacks on the Passover Seder.

[@alancooke1131]

It's sad that the institution for virtue has lost it's Way and the Truth and the Life.

[@stevekrumlauf8178]

For the record, Internet sources say, the British surrendered at Yorktown on October 19, 1781.

[@robynmarler1951]

God bless America, our greatest and most glorious daughter 🌱🌿🕊

[@jenniferadams9310]

Kentucky!

[@jackmckee8196]

When will the Jeannie Constantinou be available somewhere for post viewing if we didnt see the live stream? Thanks!

[@faithburns8379]

Nowadays, it’s not the church and the state together that are ruling as an iron fist. It’s the state and the technocracy with much the same results.

[@jesusmysavior2424]

Love 💕

[@BaronBomburst]

Can we get Oz's reading list please!?

[@willemvaningen2747]

Just google it

[@BaronBomburst]

@@willemvaningen2747 I mean his reading on the republic, constitution etc.

[@michaeledwards2749]

Best education ever

[@donnylastella9441]

Eric, Eric Eric I love you my brother ✝️🙏🤟💪🏼🔥🔥🔥‼️💯🎁

[@ciaranoregan3710]

There are many in the West who either don't realise, or don't care, that they are sawing off the very branch on which they sit. Thanks from Ireland.

[@JadeDragon407]

I guess the way I looked at it, is that freedom is free will; ie. the ability to come up to the keyboard to play, but virtue gives one the reason to refine their playing into something beautiful and having an orderous melody vs mere racket. The golden triangle that depicts free will gives us some insight on what the Millennial Reign of King Jesus shall look like. The mention of the iron rod indicates that a purposeful and strongly pressed order shall be paramount among the nations of the time, yet outside of the things that endanger order or cause harm (sin), freedom shall be among the people of the age, and of course, those of us who have been resurrected into our new forms shall, in our realm of free will, shall simply no longer have it in mind or spirit to do sin any longer as it was designed into original creation. Education is such an important aspect of "a Republic, if you can keep it", but the core ideas of what was originally designed for our society are being lost because "education" has become the antithesis of itself in many ways. If we are going to continue to fund and engage in state-guided education, then we have got to insist that it perform the duties for which it exists: to provide truth, the means and strategies to discover truth, and politically: to understand who we are as a society, and what is expected of each one in navigating the rights and freedoms that we have. It is so true that freedom cannot work unless everybody is on the same page as far as what freedom even is, what makes it possible, and what cultural elements could help/hinder its path forward. If any of that is ignored or forgotten, it is only a matter of time before society becomes a twisted mess - hence our being in a vessel with a very worn bilge pump. When I look at what is going on globally as a whole, I can't help but feel that the type of political system that the Antichrist would have is coming into place... the dissolution of meaningful education, social demoralization, a loss of focus/identity of citizens, and declining monies. Great talk as always; I continually am left from these with lots to consider, and implications on how what was said relates to our society and what things are to come in our near future. It is yet also immensely interesting that our founding fathers, regardless of the robustness or lack of theism, had it in unanimous thought that faith, in however one's world view sees that, was a key element to a free and functional society bound by an unspoken "gentleman's agreement". When you look at how people in society dealt with one another in decades past or even the manner in which our politicians spoke in public addresses (ie. state of the unions of the 60s-70s); there was a certain standing, respect and manner which people carried themselves and spoke with one another. People were no less sinful back then, but the societal expectations caused for people with any wherewithal to behave a certain way out in public, something we could use more of in today's times. Being born in the late 70s from parents of the early 40s, I grew up around the tail end of seeing hints on what the "olden days" were like, and in school, I noticed a lot of difference in many of my peers who were raised by parents born 10-15 years later than mine (who would've been teenagers in the 60s when the free-for-all revolution was in its hay day).

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

Great and lowly are RELATIVE. 😉 Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

[@gordonicus4637]

America is unravelling in deep ways...

[@user-of7td9oo7d]

I think, the spirit of the cultural Crusade is also creates so many problems and a division between people. Real values shouldn’t be pushed upon or forcefully implemented, otherwise it turns into the opposite. It becomes new colonialism rather than peaceful process of transformation. For the most part, today’s situation is definitely a by product of that cultural blindness and ignorance.

[@Nashvillain10SE]

Eric is correct: the British surrendered at Yorktown on October 19, 1781.

[@josephprescher6083]

It was nice to hear he is opposed to the Right as well.

[@danlogan4002]

Dan. AUSTRALIA. Who said, " Do onto others as you would have them do onto you ". ? And it wasn't Bob Dylan.

[@joblower9961]

"If God is dead, there is no truth. There is only power." That's where we are, sadly. I mean, I know He's alive but I see this thinking at work all around us.

[@kimjensen5563]

David Barton WallBuilders

[@elainemoney6423]

Oz Guinness simply fabulous but annoying all the unnecessary interruptions from Socrates.

[@racheleaggleston6410]

The issue of the medieval church, changes under historical events, and Papal authority was the precursor of the American Revolution. Not to throw the baby out with the bathwater, it is important to know, God doesn't make mistakes.

[@lifewasgiventous1614]

Papal authority? America is more protestant than anything.

[@donnylastella9441]

Thank you OS .I CONFESS I HAVE A LOT OF CATCHING UP TO DO IN READING AND OF COURSE I BECAME AWARE OF MY IGNORANCE AFTER MY EYESIGHT Started get weak, that was for you Eric lol , meaning the sarcasm 😜. I can honestly tell you that I've known what direction our country was and is heading whilst serving in the US submarine force DBF‼️‼️. I WAS IN DURING REAGAN'S FIRST TERM AND WAS LIED TO SEVERAL TIMES BY OUR GOVERNMENT AND THE PROMISE'S THEY BROKE, WHICH BTW I DIDN'T BELIEVE THE PRESIDENT RESPONSIBLE FOR. BUT THAT SUBTLE LIE , TO MOST PEOPLE GOT ME TO THINKING ABOUT WHY I WANTED TO DEFEND MY COUNTRY. AT THAT TIME I WAS A FAR FROM GOD AS I EVER WAS BUT A LITTLE SEED OF HOW THINGS ACTUALLY RUN IN OUR GOVERNMENT WAS PLANTED. THEN AS A SECULAR DRUMMER/ VOCALIST I SET OUT TO PURSUE BECOMING A FAMOUS MUSICIAN AT ANY COST. I HAD SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO BE THAT SEX,DRUGS AND ROCK AND ROLL GUY FOR THE NEXT 30 YRS I CANT EVEN COUNT THEM . WHAT WAS ALWAYS REMARKABLE WAS WHEN ANY OF THE MANY BANDS AND MUSICIANS TALKED ABOUT ANYTHING RELATED TO GOD OR RELIGION MOST EVERYONE SAID AND I QUOTE " OH DON'T WORRY DONNY IF ANYONE OF US IS GONNA GET TO HEAVEN IT WILL BE YOU". I THINK IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE COUNTLESS OPPORTUNITIES I HAD TO LIVE THAT LIFESTYLE I RARELY DID, AND WHEN I DID I DESTROYED TWO MARRIAGES AND WAS A PART-TIME DAD AT BEST. BY THE GRACE AND MERCY OF THE KING OF KINGS I SURVIVED, BEEN FORGIVEN AND HAVE ESTABLISHED A WONDERFUL RELATIONSHIP WITH BOTH MY BIOLOGICAL DAUGHTER S AND WITH MY STEP CHILDREN . IT STARTED WITH CONFESSION AND BEING TRANSPARENT WITH ALL THE PEOPLE WHOSE LIVES MY BEHAVIOR AFFECTED. OK BACK TO THE SUBJECT AT HAND. IF WE LOOSE OUR FREEDOMS AND ARE SEPARATED FROM OUR LOVED ONES HAVING TALKS ABOUT SUCH THINGS WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE, I HOPE THIS MAKES SENSE AT LEAST A LITTLE TO THOSE WHO READ THIS . BTW I THINK EVERY ABLE BODIED MALE IN OUR COUNTRY SHOULD SERVE AT LEAST 4 YRS IN THE ARMED FORCES. UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT MEANS TO PROTECT OUR FREEDOMS BY NOT HAVING ANY WHILST SERVING. WE HAVE A SAYING " WE PROTECT DEMOCRACY NOT PRACTICE IT" . MEN WILL WHAT IT MEANS TO DIE TO PROTECT EACH OTHER AND OUR WAY OF LIFE. Of course woman are definitely invites but it's not mandatory. I do believe in the statement behind every great man there is a greater woman. A proverbs 31 woman. Hey if I didn't believe this I wouldn't have married 3 times. Oh what an exciting time to be alive. Stand strong in your faith my brothers and sisters, share the glorious news of Jesus Christ with others . With love, DONNY ✝️🙏🤟💪🏼🔥💯👊🎯‼️‼️❤️

[@l.bevand3503]

This isn't an America only issue, it is a World Humanity problem. Take God out of the equation and this is what you will be left with. Babylon and the pre flood era should be a lesson but we don't learn from history.

[@MichaelPatrick447]

Vivek Ramaswamy has the message we need for president

[@timothylosee8831]

Only Faith in the one true God, not faith in something else, leads to true freedom. Anything else is deception. The wisdom of this world is foolishness.

[@racheleaggleston6410]

Can someone understand that global economy is issue? When we commit without national security.

[@blueskymut]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🇺🇸🙏

[@melanieames4574]

I paid to see Michael Medved and could not get it. What did I do wrong

[@robmarshall956]

the i in the sitc in the c in the logo is to much truth for me to handle.

[@josephprescher6083]

My question regarding the virtue of “Truth” is, WHO has “truly” embraced both Religion and Lies as their methodology to power….

[@janetclark5668]

The World Health Organization -- its goals are frightening and its actions are discouraging.

[@scottinpa5512]

I watched the complete discussion. Os sounds bold and forthright, but he and Eric both avoid major reasons for the current unraveling: race and population replacement. These are considered forbidden areas and would mark him and Eric as “extreme”. He has thus internalized the radical Left’s criticism of the Right as authentic. Also, even without the enormous disparity in “social location” the Left and Right are not equally “vile”. This is weak, relativistic argument.

[@marchess286]

They didn't "avoid" anything. It's just that they aren't fearful, ignorant bigots.

[@peterjodonovan2025]

Very interesting how the decline in integrity was highlighted

[@-dirk-65]

Translation: 'If then the light that is within you is darkness, how great is that darkness.'- God. America better get back to loving the Truth, fast!

[@user-rn4xw4ul6s]

My grandparents were missionaries in China goiving up wealth in Australia serving the Lord sharing the gospel they had to.flee when the communists came they had a deep love for the chinese and spoke their language

[@maureenklopfenstein4559]

Life is a series of Rude Awakenings and I'm ashamed that my years of apathy while Evil flourished. Freedoms are slipping totally and we are shocked. Can we be revived? waite

[@conniewahl4743]

Hatred now, any different than the hatred Jesus endured?

[@fidelity52]

Dr. Guinness indeed is inconsistent in trying to knit together the mélange of Luther with his admiration of the society based on covenant and law set forth by Moses in Exodus. He would be better to follow the path taken by John Henry Newman and Gilbert Keith Chesterton.

[@ohitsustu1835]

They are not 'faiths', just religious belief systems. Faith is a gift from God at rebirth. We lost it at the fall when we chose self based God rejecting knowledge of good and evil instead of love based faith. Imo.

[@TEAMGETHELP]

Weimar decadence got a kind correction.

[@artofmusic303]

My guides to wisdom are Buddha, Xenophon, Cicero, Seneca and Montaigne. I have very little use for Plato or Christianity. I love both freedom and justice. I accept and celebrate the diversity of this world because it is reality; I don't fight reality. I support science, vaccines, and a woman's freedom of access to medical care if she is suffering a life-threatening ectopic pregnancy. I'm pretty sure the bunch presenting this program do not share my ideals nor my freedom to vote for them in a democratic republic.

[@rapturebound197]

There are many things I look forward to about heaven.. but I'm especially grateful that Jesus' reign as King of Kings is Forever! The days of campaigns, promises, party affiliation and voting will cease.. and the thought there will never be a committee formed again almost makes me giddy. It will be His way.. or NO way...and I'm good with that! Praise His Holy name! Amen ✡️✝️🕎 .

[@christinee6678]

Eric, I love you and your platform, but sometimes you talk too much and don’t listen enough. God bless.

[@jricardotorres8192]

There were no "Jews"in Exodus only Israelites, this term came out after the split of the nation

[@racheleaggleston6410]

There is loss of humanity since we have an explosion of abuses. JESUS is freedom. I see the relationship with Moses. The issue with reformation, the sins of political crux to maintain religion and political balance. In Combination with Henry8 and the prevalent ongoing church selling of indulgence, gave Papal authority nullifying.

[@osks]

Nowhere does Os Guinness bother to define ‘freedom’ - like is most often the case, he simply seems to assume it to mean ‘the right to choose without any force or coercion’ - if that’s the case, then it betrays an unexamined philosophical bias that results in a horribly deficient understanding of things! It is trite to suggest that ‘freedom’ (in this sense) can go unchecked - rules are simply inevitable that necessarily reigns in that kind of ‘freedom’… The result is not ‘freedom’, but a ‘faux freedom’ that is really no freedom at all! It is therefore not surprising to discover that the ‘land of the free’ where ‘freedom’ is exalted above all else, is burdened with more laws, rules, prescriptions, statues… at every level of government - federal, state, county… than any other country in the world!

[@marchess286]

Everything he said clearly demonstrates he knows the difference between liberty and license. That is the point of his golden triangle.

[@Jack-eo5fn]

Eric says we need virtue and I agree. Virtue is honesty and integrity. But Eric can’t see that Trump is not virtuous, not honest, not a man of character and integrity. When poor Eric can see his own hypocrisy and folly, then he has a right to preach at us. Not until.

[@AviViljoen]

Laventelhaan.

[@johnchainey4831]

Full of Sound and Fury signifying nothing

[@ashc2703]

They were still battling after 1776….the surrender was in 1781. Sorry Eric ha

[@oldterry9356]

where did you get that suit? burn it!

[@racheleaggleston6410]

I can see that woke is a problematic outcome that one understands.

[@scout2469]

The only reason that Christianity is of any value is that it carries with it the wisdom of the Jews.

[@Jordan18561]

Jesus is the wisest Jew

[@racheleaggleston6410]

Talk about women please, abortion is scientifically possible, but would Lincoln approve??

[@darrellanderson6650]

I am a Christian and conservative but I see Eric as part of that far right ugly.

[@lifewasgiventous1614]

Makes no sense why you would say that he doesn't fit that bill in the slightest... this suggest to me that you aren't anything near conservative or right leaning.

[@darrellanderson6650]

@@lifewasgiventous1614 Trump worshipper, election denier and supporter of the insurrection on the capitol.

[@darrellanderson6650]

@@lifewasgiventous1614 I hope you did some research on Eric.

[@darrellanderson6650]

@@lifewasgiventous1614 I used to be a fan of Eric Metaxas until heard how far right he was and supporting the insurrection on the capitol is just crazy.

[@lifewasgiventous1614]

@@darrellanderson6650 The insurrection is all bullshit buddy. You letting your cards show

[@bizzbuilder]

I’m amazed at how long it takes you to make an introduction it’s really borders on ridiculous

[@bizzbuilder]

The other thing you do is you interrupt incessantly

[@bizzbuilder]

The trouble with your introductions are they are far too long

[@brino7168]

Churchill betrayed Poland and Polish soldiers mr Os. He sold Poland to Stalin, so first do your lessons.