The Critical Drinker's 'Rogue Elements' and Bad Conservative Art

[@PillarofGarbage]

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[@joshv.1490]

@23:20 or so you say Christopher Hitchens where you mean Peter Hitchens.

[@MB-xp6oe]

@@joshv.1490 This guy totally reads Kant. You cannot question him.

[@liphrium9858]

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[@shabath]

Nah, I'd rather pay for a credible VPN, who doesn't blow their funding on yt ads.

[@Candyohh]

Very groovy. 👍

[@AxelLloyd]

It’s almost like if you focus on being anti-woke first and characters second, you don’t actually make a movie you just make a big conservative ad.

[@joshuaewolf]

What's even funnier is it's the exact thing they accuse leftists of doing "putting politics before story"

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

Has Drinker ever shown that he understands deep and varied characters? I only remember him glorifying paperthin stereotypes... whicch fits fabulously into that right wong Media bubble... didn't Ben Shapiro also write awful Thrillers with impersonal cardboard cutout "protagonists"?

[@joeavreg2254]

That sounds too woke to be a critique so I can ignore for a reason other than I'm mad you hurt my feelings.

[@DerekS-kq3zh]

It's almost like if you focus on ideology first, whether that be woke or anti-woke, you don't actually make anything other than propaganda.

[@bainbonic]

I actually have to disagree with that, some of the best stories in history have been written specifically to explore ideas and even politics first, the basis of telling stories is often in messaging. The problem is that the anti-woke crowd are inherently uninterested with higher ideas, don't want to be challenged to think hard about anything, and are openly uncurious about the world. It's not the message, it's the idiots writing it.

[@noriyakigumble3011]

Call me Anti-Woke the way this movie had me falling asleep 🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[@AC-hj9tv]

Lol nice

[@jussts]

Got em.

Damn

[@tigerchild3676]

Very clever

[@keirangrant1607]

Hehehehehehe.... score one for you! Very nice homie.

[@tcaprecap1448]

all conservative critics run into this problem: they think creating art is as easy as disingenuously tearing it down, so they launch a movie/music project that starts with a bang but always ends with a self-pitying whimper as it gets torn to shreds.

[@kenon6968]

Honestly I don't think it's anything more complicated than an Uwe Boll type situation from people who are just far more cynical. Conservatives will consume conservative media as a point of honour, but it isn't even about the viewership unless like you get these flukes like God's Not Dead. The investors who fund people like Ben Shapiro aren't in the habit of losing money. tax incentives, loopholes and unnamed accounts are probably the more involved than any reptilian ideological beliefs they hold

[@MrPlannery]

See also: the various attempts at anti woke comedy

[@plixypl0x]

I think conservatives think good art is just technical: good technique = great art.

[@Clatakesalook]

Bingo . Hate pays the bills. But drinkers always been a self proclaimed twat

[@XeriFemsomething-qg2py]

@plixypl0x trouble is, they're not good at the technical part either. I think they view art more as a product than as art, really.

[@DodgeThatAttack]

Funny how the "stop ruining art with politics" crowd can't make art because they can only focus on politics

[@ynraider]

"Parasite" from S. Korea covers these types very well. They are the homeowner class.

[@maynardburger]

Almost like they've only ever meant 'stop pushing politics I dont like'. Almost like they get mad at celebrities and sports people speaking up about politics they dont like saying "Shut up about politics and stick to your job" only to fawn over any D-list celebrity or rare sports person who actually supports their politics. Almost like all of these people are nothing but inherently dishonest hypocrites with no shame at all in their efforts to push their propaganda and beliefs.

[@Yuckyuck1870]

@@ynraiderowning a home isn’t that hard brother

[@gamepapa1211]

​​@@Yuckyuck1870LOL OK boomer

[@Grassdia]

@@Yuckyuck1870where do you live?

[@The3gg]

I had no idea drinker was a grocery store book author. His channel makes a lot more sense now

[@Not_An_EV]

Yeah I've had the "joy" of reading one of his books and let's just say it's pulpy crap

[@ginidontthinkso4282]

Give us ghe hightlights of his stuff

[@Not_An_EV]

@ginidontthinkso4282 OK so the book I read was "Redemption" which was the start of his Ryan Drake series. I will try to remember as much of the plot as I humanly can but I will warn you most of my recollection of the book was complaining about how cliche it was and predclicting everything that came next so well I genuinely started to convince myself I was prophetic. So our book follows the authors James Bond x Jack Reacher love child Ryan Drake. An ex British army man who joins the CIA, because of crouse he does, as a (and I'm not making this up) Shepherd. He and his team find people. Especially those who don't want to be found! Because you know that's what shepherds do. They find lost sheep that don't want to be found. Now him amd his team get sent on a mission. Go get this woman have her back on US soil within 48 hours "but this turns out to be more dangerous than anything Ryan and his team have faced before" I'm sure this was an actual blurb on the book. So him and his team set off to go save the woman who's name starts with either an M or am N if I remember correctly. Cliche stuff happens along the way and they have to fight to get the girl then they get her. And it turns out she's also a government agent but not for the USA if u remember right. Then they naturally start to develop feelings for each other and along the way he learns that the us government was lying to him or some shit which males him run away with the girl instead and it seemed like the rest of the series was going to be focused on both governments tracking them down. It wasn't a bad book in terms of writing or spelling or anything like that it was just too cliche and pulpy for me to ever take it seriously. Its the sort of book I'd expect to find my grandfather reading in between watching black and white westerns.

[@AC-hj9tv]

Bargain bin books lol

[@Not_An_EV]

@@AC-hj9tv 100% this

[@JamesTullos]

I'm honestly disappointed that conservatives can't seem to make good art anymore. People like Tom Clancy used to write some kickass thrillers, now all we've got is unimaginative drivel that repeats some variation of "I HATE THE WOKE" over and over again.

[@somik-i3x]

Hating something isn't a good creative force.

[@PillarofGarbage]

Rudyard Kipling springs to mind. One of the worst imperialists, one of the best (children’s?) novelists. You have to check yourself constantly & push back against the text as you read something like Kim, or Puck of Pook’s Hill, but still - what a storyteller!

[@cosmicspacething3474]

Fuckin Tolkien was a conservative. How did we get here???

[@MisterZimbabwe]

​@@cosmicspacething3474they aren't the same type of conservative as the ones we have now. If anything, Tolkien was considered progressive for his time considering his complete lack of racism in his words and deeds. No, big monied interests and large media apparatuses have semi conspired to propagandize the public over the last 40 years or so, and has caused our concept of conservative to shift even deeper into lunatic conservatism.

[@Snake-x1t]

​@@cosmicspacething3474 unlimited growth! The growth is infinite! Line go up forever! This can't possibly go wrong!

[@TheCommentingCat]

Funny how his life’s work gets turned into a movie and it turns out to be the thing that gets him the least views (congrats on getting more views than the actual movie)

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

Short film...30mins

[@SAVarXX]

@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 a bad 30 minute short film

[@SAVarXX]

@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 its really funny how you keep posting this like it changes anything besides proving his fanbase doesn't actually know anything about film and cinema

[@fireworksfactoryshow]

@@algorithmicalychallenged.291Okay. Crappy short film … 30mins of crap.

[@TheCommentingCat]

⁠​⁠@@algorithmicalychallenged.29130 minutes of a Jack Ryan ripoff with bad writing

[@sldh8mm3r93]

Conservatives be like “The left are destroying cinema!” And then make an action film so shitty it makes Steven Seagal look like Spielsburg.

[@AxleTrade]

People tend to forget there has always been an active "conservative" side to the movie industry. They're most of the action films you can find in the dollar bin that were produced by chinese/southeast asian companies.

[@nope5657]

"Spielsburg?"

[@angelsunemtoledocabllero5801]

Spilbergo

[@Maddolis]

@@angelsunemtoledocabllero5801 Muy bueno!

[@Bustermachine]

@@angelsunemtoledocabllero5801 An yes, Senior Spielbergo, Spielberg's non-union Latin American equivalent! XD

[@Theguyoverthere603]

I'm ashamed to say I watched drinker's videos dunking on the MCU on the regular and didn't really clock his rancid vibes until the Barbie movie came out. I listened to him basically say "they hate men they hate men!" over and over, thinking surely this is satire and he'll get to the actual media analysis soon. And then the video ended. Took a good hard look at who and where I watch media analysis videos from afterwards. Thank you for the wake up call, Barbie Movie.

[@Sl1mch1ckens]

Ah but you see that movie says patriarchy bad so they obviously hate men, now just close your eyes and ignore every other part of the movie that also says a matriachy would also be bad lol

[@liamannegarner8083]

Legitimately, I spent a long time before I realized the conservatism wasn't part of the joke of a guy drinking while he kvetched. Of course that's the way people complain while drunk, isn't it a joke?

[@grafknives9544]

It is quite common. I also enjoyed critical drinker in the past. Because I was sure he was satire on those overly "straight" and conservative views.

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

Short film....

[@aaronsmith1474]

MCU hate grifting is always a red flag

[@misterbrit1493]

Me when i'm in a "creating derivative art" competition and my opponent is a conservative "critic"

[@Woodsaras]

He is a critic, and a rather good one. Gtfo

[@misterbrit1493]

@ meatriding in a comment section for a creator you don’t know and will never meet is crazy bro. How’s your relationship with your friends and family?

[@IGNEUS1607]

Nice meme format... I think you still win...

[@actualgoblin]

Chronically online comparison but it reminds me of "critics" in the online art community making the most bland, nothing burger art of all time cuz they're scared of being seen as cringe

[@user-account-not-found]

@@Woodsaras bro you serious with this or is this satire?

[@robbieshand6139]

I think one of the Drinker's videos that crossed over and got widely ridiculed by the community was his "review" of The Boys season 4, where he just read out a handful of negative comments from Rotten Tomatoes and admitted he hadn't watched it. It became impossible to ignore how low-effort his output had become since actually watching the thing you're criticising is the bare minimum you should expect from a critic.

[@cptrelentless80085]

That season was total dogshit, though. Like shooting fish in a barrel

[@samrushing6283]

That's definitely the video I left my subscription on

[@lanceash]

Anybody that exalts alcohol as the panacea for all life's problems has got to be totally lacking in self-awareness. I wonder if he's ever had a girlfriend. I

[@RoadtoArkham]

I argue his output didn’t “become” low effort, it always was. I distinctly remember factual accuracies in several of his reviews over the years that made me question if he had even seen the damn thing, because I had and knew he was wrong

[@paul-nj1ig]

​@@cptrelentless80085they need to get out of the cycle of introducing a season long villain that gets killed and then homelander gets away every season

[@cn.st.182]

"[In the movie] the world is flattened down into a playground for anglo-american violence-games where setting doesn't matter, provides no resonance, grounds no themes." is so fking spot on. Awesome quote applicable to the entire post-Hollywood US media apparatus to this day.

[@avisco01]

Flat earth?

[@fulcrum6760]

The funniest part is that Drinker realize his movie is awful and deliberately buried it. There’s a reason why the BTS footage is on a secondary channel. He saw backlash.

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

Or its short film with the tittle proof of concept

[@fulcrum6760]

@ I’ve seen movies made by KZbinrs who are made from a shoestring budget.

[@SAVarXX]

@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 its still bad

[@nunpho]

​@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 gotta love a tittle

[@chrisvisser-fee2631]

​@@nunphodid you know that's what you call the dot on the lower case i? And on the lower case j? Also a tittle.

[@soledreamer2007]

The Critical Drinker: "Oh yeah? Well, I'm gonna make a much better movie than those woke directors, with blackjack and hookers! In fact, forget the movie and the blackjack! Oh, just forget the whole thing."

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

Short film....with the title proof of concept.

[@fireworksfactoryshow]

⁠@@algorithmicalychallenged.291Crappy short film … with the title poop of concept.

[@Clatakesalook]

I read that in his voice haha

[@soledreamer2007]

@@Clatakesalook LOL

[@EstradaDuran-sg6co]

@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 is that you critical drinker? 😂😂

[@lesser8531]

As an Estonian, I am very confused as to what the "Russian backed Estonian Separatists" are supposed to be.

[@Murmarine]

Like, separate from what, exactly? Its so confusing for no reason.

[@PillarofGarbage]

Right?? Nuts

[@stuartpenman6387]

AWAKE TO EU AGGRESION?

[@stuartpenman6387]

@@PillarofGarbage thanks for showing you made a video on a film you didn't understand

[@PillarofGarbage]

no problem pal 👍

[@nicholashayes5773]

I guess an all white cast couldn't save this movie from sucking. Almost as if there's more to it than that.

[@TNH91]

Oh, it has an all white cast? Now I must go watch it to financially support it!!! [Yes, this is a joke, to preempt Poe's Law]

[@maynardburger]

And basically an all white production team and writers and all. People trying to push DEI as the basis for anything not being great these days are doing so dishonestly 99% of the time. They just enjoy any talking point and any opportunity they can to push their bigotry.

[@abeardthickerthanyours6416]

​​@@TNH91if you have to explain that it's a joke it's probably not funny or worth even saying. When anyone does this it makes me think of Elon's "joke" tweets about Taylor Swift. Before clarifying it was a joke what made it a joke? Set up, punchline? Nothing, it's just a statement a high schooler might think is edgy with " but it's a joke" tacked to the end.

[@abeardthickerthanyours6416]

Like what's the point of saying a non-joke that can only be interpreted as offensive or ignorant unless you add" this is obviously a joke" at the end. Anthony jeselnik is extremely "offensive" but his jokes are structured like jokes and not just an offensive statement free of context so he never has to explain to people "this is a joke".

[@TNH91]

@@abeardthickerthanyours6416 Oh, did you get butthurt? I guess you don't know of Poe's Law, and have to try to tear someone else down for your ignorance. I can only pity you.

[@noalowenstein6741]

sorry I'm only 3 minutes in but I almost choked on my food at "agents from a nameless CIA division called The Shepherds"

[@cuboid_android]

That sort of thing could work well if the movie didn't take itself too seriously, but that isn't this movie.

[@staomruel]

​@cuboid_android 'nameless CIA division called The Shepherds' 'nameless' 'called The Shepherds' 'nameless' 'The Shepherds' Is what op was pointing out, not the premise

[@bernardoheusi6146]

ROFLMAO

[@JohnnyTheWolf-d3p]

"If You Don't Trust The CIA, Then Who Do You Trust?"

[@koboldparty4708]

It took me a second to notice.

[@TSDTalks22]

>”nameless cia operatives” >named Shepards Someone screwed up here

[@ethzero]

Can we assume that the critical drinker was absolutely paralytic drunk on set on that particular day to have missed that?

[@paulgibbon5991]

If your agency has no name, that's got to get confusing at the meetings.

[@Bustermachine]

The only Shepherds I respect are Chrom, Robin, and their elite fighting force in Fire Emblem Awakening . . . and also the ones who herd sheep.

[@1th_to_comment.]

​@@Bustermachine and if not evil, Shepherd from Mass Effect.

[@619Gotenks]

​@ethzero I mean he wrote the book first. Drunk for the 2 weeks he spent writing it maybe?

[@MrTARDIS]

I am legit curious as to what The Drinker's supposed influences were for this movie, considering when asked for examples good recent Japanese movies he could only stammer out 2003's 'Oldboy'.

[@Frithonor]

Drinker writes "Lone wolf hardass tactical operator" fiction. Tom Clancy pastiche. Poorly.

[@Swordsman1425]

​​@@FrithonorEven then, as conservative as Tom Clancy books are, the man did his research on what he wrote about, at least on a technical level. (To the point that at one time the feds thought he had unauthorized access to military schematics, they were so accurate) And that takes a lot of work to get to that level and have the average reader still enjoy themselves. Drinker is clearly not looking into the why of why Tom Clancy became such a prolific brand name, but just copies without understanding.

[@ActuallyAnanya]

Does he realise that Oldboy is Korean? Also he'd probably call the same director woke for making The Handmaiden.

[@MrGared22]

Oh, that great Japanese movie Oldboy... which is actually Korean. Also, why do I have the feeling that he only knows about it because it got an (admittedly awful) American remake in which all of the main cast except Sharlto Copley (edit: and Chris from The Sopranos) went on to appear in the MCU.

[@SILENT-ch2rh2dp9i]

@@MrGared22It’s Japanese only in the sense that it’s based on a manga, but Chronic Alcoholic is stupid so I wouldn’t expect him to know that.

[@mikehall7189]

He’s a total fraud. Remember when he said he liked Japanese films but couldn’t name a Japanese film? He cited old boy snd crouching tiger, hidden dragon which are both pretty old now and neither are Japanese.

[@simondepass]

I could petty an say drinker is not far from truth and tell you the Korean oldboy movie is adaptation of the Japanese manga of Oldboy but I'm not that petty 😊

[@diallo1347]

​@@simondepassthe manga may be Japanese, but the film is Korean, so NOT a Japanese film at all

[@haihuynh8772]

@@simondepass That's not far from truth but it hasn't reached the truth either has it.

[@explosion9815]

@@simondepass That's like saying Edge of Tomorrow is a Japanese film lmao.

[@simondepass]

@@explosion9815 that joke would make more sense edge of tomorrow was called "All You Need Is Kill" I will give you a couple of freebies ghost in the shell blood the last vampire or fist of the north star or even battle angel alita

[@xhosagibran370]

It’s almost as if grifting isn’t an actual career outside of complaining.

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

Short film

[@SAVarXX]

@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 a bad one

[@Herobeans]

​@@algorithmicalychallenged.291so what, still 💩

[@shabath]

@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 He writes about as cucked characters as he himself is.

[@csquared973]

Unfortunately he, and a shitload of others like him r becoming millionaires doing just that 🤔

[@marykateandnoashley]

always hilarious when conservatives who make a living insulting other peoples’ art start making art themselves, and it is absolutely terrible.

[@pastlesandfish]

There's a reason why the arts is dominated by liberal/lefty people. Conservatives are shit at making art.

[@Jolis_Parsec]

Indeed. Eric July’s Rippaverse is another great example of one of these goofballs not having any actual talent to back up the bold claims they were making previously about showing the big boys and girls in the industry how to make something that the audience will enjoy. 😂

[@DerekS-kq3zh]

Same can be said of all the lefties who have driven other people's franchises into the ground. If you actually look with open eyes, you might be surprised what you can learn from this.

[@twanbijpost9050]

Yeah, and Shad's shameless self-insert fantasy "novel"

[@daraghokane4236]

I want the guys from Cinema sins to try making a movie give them infinity money and full control see what we get. I just want them to have to try and make a film I can't sin

[@chrisrandles857]

His book series has a "Mary Sue" character he spent years complaining about on YT

[@teslashark]

I have done a better "hunted by his own squad" story than his if I may say - Encryption Straffe!

[@nondescriptcat5620]

the true core of conservatism is "rules for thee, not for me."

[@cassiusdhami9215]

​👏🏾​@nondescriptcat5620 👍🏾 🎯💯🧠 Domination, "winning," is the only goal #this #truth

[@MonsterJuiced]

​@@nondescriptcat5620 if that was true your liberal icons would actually pay tax instead of dodging it.

[@BaronVonQuiply]

Drinkaviersity wrote a book? Is it about a wizard?

[@JohnnyTheWolf-d3p]

The Critical Drinker should consider trying his hand at writing a The Shining-style horror novel... I reckon a heartfelt, introspective story about a hack writer whose self-loathing leads him to obsessively rage against "woke DEI" media could be an interesting one.

[@dimitriwarchief301]

Where you get that idea?

[@dimitriwarchief301]

I mean nice roast though

[@JohnnyTheWolf-d3p]

@@dimitriwarchief301 The Shining?

[@vincenthalfprice9930]

"All woke and no play makes Will a dull boy"

[@richardhunter132]

I think he should write something from the heart, rather than just trying to do a copy paste assemblage of existing tropes and cliches. His character is clearly engaging to many. maybe he should do something based on that?

[@samuelbarber6177]

Okay, so I don’t believe that to criticise art, you need to be able to make great art, but it is bloody hilarious whenever someone who makes their living off of crapping on someone else’s art gives it a shot and completely falls flat on their arse. Like Ben Shapiro’s attempt at writing thrillers.

[@shticks9152]

I'm starting to think the difference lies in critics who are trying to give people an accurate view of the media they can choose to consume vs. critics who are bitter they couldn't hack it and feel slighted, and now have an axe to grind

[@cassiusdhami9215]

Agreed, but you need to be able to make good art if you keep telling people you can do better than the artist you're critiquing. 😊

[@EstradaDuran-sg6co]

It's not just hilarious. It show the true intent and jealousy in these cowards "criticism". the shapiros, drinkers and linkaras are also SUPER thin skinned which makes the irony even funnier.

[@someguythatdoesstuff7658]

I agree. Criticism and Filmmaking are two completely different and incomparable skills. Ashame though that he is mediocre in both.

[@placidesulfurik]

Fantano playing bass. Completely unnecessary mention, but I can't help myself. I love the guy, love his channel, he taught me so much about music, but the dude sucks at bass.

[@Yvädastra]

Never trust the insights of a person who brands his intellectualism with his drinking problem.

[@kolinkomita2975]

Unless they're a lanister.

[@gapsule2326]

​@@kolinkomita2975or a slav

[@Snake-x1t]

More like don't trust cringe conservative grifters on youtube. I'll stick with actual artistic drunks. Bukowski, Hunter S Thompson, Orson Welles, Townes Van Zandt. The classics.

[@pw6002]

Not even sure he's a real alcoholic. I mean, I don't wish him to be ! But just to say that his whole persona... is just a persona.

[@isaganipalanca8803]

You mean pseudo-intellectualism.

[@deadmanthehekatonkheire994]

Okay, now I want to watch a long-form video titled "The Critical Drinker Made a Terrible Stinker".

[@dinadina2000]

Be the change you want to see

[@cosmicspacething3474]

*made a critical stinker Cause critically, it stinks

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

Short film...30.mins.

[@ryantalley5284]

Make it then.

[@benjisaac]

@@algorithmicalychallenged.291this one didn’t even say anything implying length why did you put your stock comment here

[@hectorrodriguez9382]

There is nothing wrong with creating dumb pulpy spy stories, the problem is the drinker's "holier than thou" attitude of "you libtards don't know jack shit about storytelling! It is I, the only one who knows!" that makes his inevitable crash against the wall so funny. It's like those vanity project movies, like The Room, or every Neil Breen movie (at least the drinker hired an actual team of professionals to make his spy movie/short/whatever somewhat watchable).

[@cadethumann8605]

It'd be one thing if he was critic whilst being fair and easygoing towards artists whilst making his own work. Writing or working on stories is no easy task even if you can spot mistakes in others' work. Unfortunately, as you said, he has this high and mighty attitude. If he's gonna treat other creators as if they are nefarious or incompetent rather than human beings, then he deserves to have a taste of his own medicine should he make the same mistakes. Also, at least The Room and those Neil Green movies are funny as hell. CD is just frustrating. Also, they at least fought uphill battles just to be made while CD can publish as he pleases.

[@GreenEyedDazzler]

It’s funny because Neil breen movies rock and the room is worth seeing once, idk if rogue legacy or whatever is worth a single sit through

[@cadethumann8605]

@GreenEyedDazzler I'd say The Room is worth seeing a dozen times just to see all the absurdly funny errors.

[@theycallmejojo6090]

You know damn well he is going to be soft on the Daily Wire’s version of Snow White all because it has Ben Shapiro’s gender swapped clone in it.

[@maidingermany]

Brett Cooper has left DW, so I doubt that movie will be made.

[@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation]

​@@maidingermany I missed that. What happened? I mean, I doubt working for DW (with Matt Walsh especially) is very pleasant as a woman...

[@maidingermany]

@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation There are several assumptions, and the DW give her a nice good by, but many believe she has enough, want more time for her privat life or make her own thing. Time will tell.

[@peachy_lili]

@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation Brett seems to have willingly unmoored herself from the DW brand for her own personal reasons, they're keeping any drama hushed up if there is any

[@michaelahurt]

Probably not. His reviews of conservative movies haven’t exactly been complimentary. He plays up the woke stuff but his reviews aren’t particularly ideological. If something is good or the pandering elements don’t matter - like Prey - he’ll say so.

[@SocraTetris]

A point that CJ the X made recently i think. It's reproduction, but without the ability to question the status quo and from which come up with a new idea. That reproduction thus inevitably lacks what made the original resonate, or even if done well fails to capture interest as people have already seen it

[@PillarofGarbage]

sounds pretty bang on, yeah man I gotta catch up on CJ

[@Theguyoverthere603]

Mr. Warframe philosophy man spotted in the wild :O

[@Squishy876]

CJ is so insightful

[@Jonny-uu7wf]

You would think that a man that spends his time criticising bad writing on the internet would have remembered to include a plotline.

[@AxleTrade]

Compared to him, at least Doug Walker owned up to how terrible the nostalgia critic movies were.

[@maynardburger]

Guys, surely if the totally unbiased and honest reviews on IMDB are anything to go by, the story is actually amazing and unbelievably coherent compared to other modern movies, with literally no plotholes at all. The acting is also superb and people should totally go subscribe to The Critical Drinker after watching the movie.

[@tonygunkster]

@@AxleTradeDoug is still the worst though lol

[@Bustermachine]

@@tonygunkster Is he still considered terrible or just harmfully incompetent? Because I kinda thought we'd landed on the latter more than the former after the dust had settled.

[@tonygunkster]

@@Bustermachine yea you’re right actually. he’s too much of an idiot to realize it, but wings is an asshole and knows it.

[@eowynsalvador]

Critical Drinker having a Mary Sue character in his own movie reeks of exactly the same sentiment that led to that one Daily Wire western having a Mary Sue character. The arrogance of these guys to criticize it in modern films while glorifying it in older films they've already decided they like using the same old "But they did it RIGHT" without being able to actually articulate what exactly "right" means or doesn't mean in this scenario. In their arrogance, Drinker and Daily Wire think they're doing it "right"

[@BaronVonQuiply]

My suspicion is that if they can characterize a role as "leftist" then any competency is a Mary Sue If they can call it conservative then the character is a badass instead and the fact that John McClane threw a car at a helicopter in Die Hard: Rossya means he's a smart businessman

[@direktive4]

@@eowynsalvador right into irrelevance

[@SeanMcD-gn2cl]

Critical Drinker realizing its much easier to shit on peoples stuff than create your own film lol what a dork

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

Short film

[@SAVarXX]

@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 bad short film

[@YourNameHere137]

​@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 are you a a spam bot

[@HALLish-jl5mo]

I think a lot of his analysis is actually pretty good. I don't agree with his politics, but anyone trying to insert politics into a story tends to ruin the story. Either you already agree, in which case it's a bit dull, or you don't, and it's infuriating. A lot of fiction is produced with the mindset of "when they see this they'll know I'm right!", and that invariably detracts from the enjoyment of the work for the 99.9% of people who don't reevaluate their world view. The only exceptions I can think of didn't try to directly make me think a certain way, just view the subject differently (starship troopers the book is famous for this. Nobody agrees with it but it's very informative as to why you disagree). It's amusing he wasn't able to pass the same critical lense over his own script, but I've dabbled enough with writing to know that one's own work is a massive blindspot.

[@shabath]

@@SAVarXX Bot, do not interact with.

[@PatrickWDunne]

0% wokeness 0% DEI 0% The Message 100% hot garbage that belongs in a $5 bin

[@ProfoundKrab]

Don't forget the 99% hot gas

[@Ali-e5h1b]

More like the 5 for $5 bin...

[@Rossoneri2]

Not even worth pirating

[@twinzzlers]

​@@Ali-e5h1bOuch

[@riseofdarkleela]

@@Rossoneri2Taking the time to uncheck it from “New Movies This Week PLEASE SEED” 😂

[@acemagalor2519]

I think the channel Some More News did an excellent dissection on why media from modern online conservatives just isn’t well put together on both narrative and technical levels when they reviewed Lady Ballers. A lot of it lacks technical skill (i.e. directing, editing, cinematography) and is really just derivative of other work without any substance backing it up. It’s basically slop as described in your previous video. It’s like mush that’s molded to look like a five star meal

[@spacedoutcowboy5211]

Lady ballers was slop molded into a happy Maddison film and they still couldn't make it funny

[@SinisterTom-o2t]

Both liberal and conservative stuff are like this, more about trying to convey a personal opinion rather than an actual story

[@vaderwalks]

Big Joel did something similar.

[@WoobooRidesAgain]

@@SinisterTom-o2t Whap-pang! Here's your obligatory bad attempt at deflection comment appearing at least once-per-thread, everyone.

[@SinisterTom-o2t]

@@WoobooRidesAgain your doing the same thing to me though and so what I'm right tho, both extremists from both liberals and conservatives act like this, like I said if you think only one side is capable of bad and the other side is all good then you are incapable of unbiased opinions and are an extremist I'm not American so I don't know why you seem to think I'm choosing a side but I'm neutral in this, for me I don't care about political opinions just make good movies, games and shows why is that such a controversy?

[@davidci]

I love how this video got more views than the movie itself, now I wonder how they would say "Go woke, go broke" on this one

[@eko9554]

Moana 2 and Inside Out 2 made way more money than Critical Drinkers movie. I think that should be a phrase or meme.

[@Coroplocs-Chameleon]

4:20 Now that I think about it, Will probably just really liked the score from the Dune films and desperately tried to get someone to replicate it, forgetting that the score barely correlated with the themes and style of the film its being attached to.

[@Hawkatana]

Rogue Elements (and the book series as a whole) shows that Critical Drinker is something far worse than a conservative, he's a Call of Duty fan.

[@blackpajamas6600]

Even worse, a conservative CoD fan.

[@fulcrum6760]

COD has more nuance than this.

[@jayevers2453]

He’s probably proud of getting 1 prestige lol

[@Dowlphin]

@@fulcrum6760 CoD is made with AI now. 😏

[@BaronVonQuiply]

I remember playing a few of those games, years ago when they didn't come out twice a year. I think the last I I tried was just too blatant with the pro-war propaganda and I checked out, but that was several PCs ago so I can't even tell you with any certainty

[@selunescorpio]

The Critical Drinker can’t even write criticism of media without calling it “woke,” centering his entire issue with the modern media around right wing culture war talking points. There was no way any movie he made was going to be good.

[@kindequation_Arts]

For the Critical Drinker it’s all he has calling things “Woke” without even giving valid criticisms. And hell none of these idiots can’t even define it.

[@Jakeyosaurus]

I remember I unsubscribed from the guy with his barbie movie review because I realised the review content wasn't satire. 😅

[@muffinconsumer4431]

That’s rough lol

[@coyootje]

I’ve stayed subbed to him (and some others) for quite some time after the KZbin algorithm made me stumble upon them around the time of Endgame coming out. I was disappointed in both Marvel and Star Wars but could not quite articulate what it was about it that led me there. Drinker (and the others) gave me a possible explanation that was easy to parrot. Over time, I unsubbed from most of the others for their extremely right wing views and constant mentioning of it (looking at you, Az and Nerdrotic) but I stuck to Drinker for a while because he left the political stuff to a minimum besides the “the message” and “Mary sue” comments. However, when he started talking about Trump winning again I finally unsubscribed from his channel as well. Looks like I didn’t miss much. I’m a bit ashamed I stayed for so long and let my opinions be influenced by such douchebags for so long but at the same time it really shows that YT has a problem with this. I remember watching a video the other day about how fast YT pushes a new account to right wing stuff and it was honestly insane. Depending on the state you were from it only took like an hour or so to get to crazy right wing conspiracy stuff and once you were there it was very difficult to get out again.

[@dntthe88]

Didnt know he wrote a series of extremely generic military fiction novels and suddenly everything about his taste in movies makes so much fucking sense.

[@dimitriwarchief301]

He does come off as the “imma cool guy I drink booze” type of guy that tries to act masculine…. By watching muscle movies

[@satireisnotdead5804]

He'd be ripped apart on the fishing Boat I work. Which incidentally, I'm writing a fictionalised version of, hopefully it turns out better than this.

[@Chair-by-a-bench]

Dude's basically a divorced dad without the ex-wife and estranged kids.

[@SamwiseOutdoors]

Oh god, the shaky handheld camera, overexposure, and gross gray/brown filters are so 2009 it's revolting.

[@firstlast9846]

*This is what happens* when you complain about the “Current State of Movies” then all you watch are Superhero/Franchise movies and complain that Hollywood has gone to shit. He’s hailed himself as a Elite Cinephile and you can tell when he finally gets to talking about it that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

[@Coroplocs-Chameleon]

These people wanna see something ACTUALLY BAD??? They should watch: Birdemic Shark Exorcist Zardoz Santa Claus Conquers the Martians Turkish Star Wars …And then come back to me and say that The Acolyte is the worst media ever produced.

[@Lechef53]

Didn’t he call Parasite a Japanese film or something similar? Either way, he has no passion for film or art whatsoever. He only cares about money and “sticking it up the wokes and libs”, which is a reoccurring theme in conservative film and art and why it’s shit.

[@Lechef53]

Didn’t he call Parasite a Japanese film? Either way, he doesn’t care about film or art in general. He only cares about making money and “sticking it up the wokes and libs”, which is a common theme of conservative film companies and productions. It’s no wonder why they’re shit and forgotten quickly.

[@Lezzyboy87]

​@Coroplocs-Chameleon What aboutism doesnt stop drinker being shit

[@samuelbarber6177]

Notice how these guys who claim to love cinema (or whatever intellectual property they think is “ruined” now) never actually discuss elements of it they do like? Almost as if they don’t actually like it and just want an excuse for why they’re angry all the time.

[@Sarappreciates]

Drinker used to be funny, like listening to my drunk uncle unload about how "there are no good movies anymore." I literally thought that's what The Drinker was doing. It was hilarious, but then he got more increasingly angry, misogynistic, and less ironically anti-"woke." Then he started talking about running for politics, and I felt embarrassed to have ever been a viewer of his. Is this how political cults start?

[@maxtracker2904]

You should have a look at the Conservative book (I think called “Trgger Warning”?) that Jenny Nicholson once reviewed. The way the protagonist was randomly attacked on campus by Antifa ninjas at least twice 😂

[@Slysheen]

Also never forget how Big Jake is.

[@Ineedgames]

Sounds like a Ben Shapiro book.

[@ark2074]

That book has a very interesting story on how it came to be too

[@rissaarei5336]

I know about it because Krimsonrogue did a review on it too and ho boy, is it craptastic. It's so bad you could almost call it an unintentional parody. Man is a legend for what he's had to go through with these kind of books. His Empress Theresa review in five parts is a staple of mine, when I've got a lot of time and boring work to do. Listening to a knowledgeable guy tear down probably the worst obsessive simp in existence is always a pleasure.

[@unfrogettable9495]

Time to pin "Conservatives are bad at art" next to "Conservatives are bad at sex"

[@DeltaNovum]

Go and look up the correlation between "brain structure" and "political orientation". Its a very interesting rabbit hole. People that lean conservative tend to look for an authoritarian "daddy" to tell them how to think and act, have less room for empathy, have a greater reaction to fear, and have greater difficulty with critical thinking, to just name a few. When you look at what different studies of brainscans have found, A LOT of stuff suddenly makes a lot of sense.

[@callumholland8932]

Dilusion

[@ianoz1]

At least they know there are only two.

[@ianoz1]

@@DeltaNovum Produce your evidence and tell us who funded these alleged studies.

[@jackwalker4957]

@@ianoz1he’s under no obligation to. You’re literally both seeing him as and rejecting him as a “daddy” figure and before you tell me I’m wrong, I don’t believe you

[@TalesNT]

Ironic when you pause to read the comments @6:15 and his viewers are calling him out for the woke DEI movie.

[@littlebigmarc]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Fucking comedy

[@ADM.II.]

😂

[@MrGared22]

It's like how that Gina Carano Western movie got The Daily Wire criticized for featuring a "strong female character" when the bulk of the movie is actually her character messing things up until her husband arrives to save the day.

[@NosferatuWickedTTRPG]

That's so fucked it's almost hilarious

[@based-ys9um]

​@@MrGared22to be fair that's very realistic

[@PatrickWDunne]

Four videos on Critical Drinker? Wow, you must be OBSESSED and JEALOUS of his success! Anyways, I'm going to watch the Drinker talk about Rachel Ziegler for the 1804726th time in a row.

[@SemiIocon]

I'll give him this, at least he didn't pull a Somerton and actually released the short film he crowdfunded.

[@gibsonmunyi7225]

Well, it was supposed to be a movie, not a short film.😂

[@JohnnyTheWolf-d3p]

@@gibsonmunyi7225 Well, a short film is a movie, technically speaking.

[@gibsonmunyi7225]

@@JohnnyTheWolf-d3p No, no its not. I've never watched a movie and called it a short film, and vice versa.

[@JohnnyTheWolf-d3p]

@@gibsonmunyi7225 ...Okay? "Movie" is just a synonym of "film", it says nothing about its actual duration. That is why we say "short film", "short movie" or even "short" and "feature length".

[@gibsonmunyi7225]

@@JohnnyTheWolf-d3p 😂😂😂I literally had to show my girlfriend this reply. Even with no context about what the subject matter is. I just showed her the thread and showed her your argument. 😂😂😂This right here is the definition of COPE. {or are you going to tell me, 'technically that's not the definition of COPE?}😂😂Merry XMAS dude, you made us laugh 'at you'

[@eko9554]

I find it funny how Drinker reviewed Wicked. If he watched any broadway musicals especially they’re made in a blue state, he would lose his mind how many of them are lgbt including the culture.

[@Afgrahamistan]

He probably saw that one South Park episode and thought it was serious.

[@IllisiaAdams]

He's seen the live show.

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

He said hebliked both...cute try.

[@qasimahmad6748]

He lit said he liked wicked. It is fascinating how you always move the Goalpost or r incredibly bias which literally destroys any merit of your arguments against him.

[@callumholland8932]

Brother he's from Scotland one of the most diverse places to ever exist, there has been drag shows in Glasgow since the 1800s ii could go on look at all the Scots on drag TV like pauls, but you are being blatantly disingenuous, if you think LGBTQ people don't hate DEI woke crap than you are dilusional...

[@Accountthatexists]

Wait are u telling me the guy who main critique with movies is that there "woke" cant write a "good" movie🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

Short film.

[@MisterDoobs]

@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 small weiner.

[@SAVarXX]

​@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 you say this like being a shortfilm is why its bad.

[@SAVarXX]

​@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 ya op, he can't write a good short film. get it right

[@chetmanley1885]

​@@algorithmicalychallenged.291so he had even less to do and still couldn't?

[@SupremeRTS]

I tolerated his bs and anti woke shenanigans until the point he made a review video about the boys and said he hadn't even watched it and didn't plan to. He lost all credibility in my eyes. And all because he wanted to chase that sweet sweet anti woke grifter money.

[@ShadowVincent3]

I used to watch his older videos, and while there were some iffy moments here n there, a lot of what he said seemed to make enough sense to me. Then I saw his video when Spiderman left the MCU and he started prattling on about how this was basically the next step in removing men from cinema and to make it all the MSheU, even though it was due to Contract issues between Sony and Disney that meant his spot in the MCU was up for debate, which then got solved later anyway.

[@glyndwrjohn6383]

I'm fascinated as to why it took you so long to stop tolerating such demonstrable nonsense!

[@joeavreg2254]

A nameless CIA division called "The Shepherds"? That seems a bit contradictory.

[@jamesmaxwell1940]

I think the idea is that "shepherds" is an unofficial nickname, but it was still pretty funny reading the sentence "nameless group called XYZ"

[@UltrafalconVX7]

Maybe if he focused on making a good story and not "The Message"

[@ldcg106]

If only Hollywood did the same, this movie wouldn't have been made.

[@celldh0825]

I heard “DA MESSAGE” in that echoey tone he uses in his videos when I read that

[@habrasil]

@@ldcg106 but a lot of money wouldn't be made either. They want money, not good stories, just like the loser writer!

[@ldcg106]

@@habrasil And lately they aren't getting much of either.

[@benjisaac]

@@ldcg106 You guys have commented something like this on most threads in this comment section. You do realize how “he made this movie to criticize how hollywood prioritizes the message over the story” makes it *worse* that he did that exact thing, not better?

[@afterhourscinema782]

*Critical Drinker:* FAILED filmmaker *Shapiro:* FAILED screenwriter *Crowder:* FAILED comedian *Walsh:* FAILED radio host *Knowles:* FAILED actor *Cooper:* FAILED actress Hmm... I'm noticing a pattern here 😂

[@nondescriptcat5620]

and a certain failed Austrian painter...

[@SuperMaster000X]

Grummz: Failed game dev

[@madskillz808]

Those who can't, grift.

[@Mattened]

Most of whom you listed are jewish controlled opposition. Fake conservatives, or "grifters", as you probably call them.

[@ninegearcrow]

Nerdrotic is also a failed comic book store owner. Dude bankrupting his dream job is the start of his grifter origin story.

[@laserpanda94]

Denigrating _all_ of western cinema after only watching Hollywood blockbusters is like saying every restaurant in America is bad after only eating in McDonalds and Burger King.

[@dimitriwarchief301]

True

[@search895]

Like when people who only listen to a few songs played on the mainstream radio or tv say "no one makes good music anymore"

[@eko9554]

I love burgers not just I’m American but there are other places that have actually sell good burgers lol. I think that could also go to music as well on your Hollywood movie statement.

[@yesthatpaul]

3:29 Wait, they're nameless but also called The Shepherds?

[@blitzburn2871]

Critics transitioning into creation regularly run head first into the issue that the ability to discuss art and create it are often very distinct skills. Drinker can be a decent critic and identify the reason why certain scenes or movies flop, when he is sincere. But he has pivoted to pandering to a crowd that wants to be told that Hollywood is run by a woke-cabal that is ruining movies by pushing "tHE mEssAge!" and he pivoted so hard that it is undermining his critical skills, and this combined with the issues good-faith critics face means that he was pretty much set up for failure from the onset.

[@Bustermachine]

And it's not like more sincere critics haven't also failed at being creators. Crucially I think the problem is that people think that Critic means criticism rather than CRITIQUE. One is saying bad things about a thing, the other is about analyzing the thing.

[@mikearchibald744]

Saying why a scene 'flopped' is not criticism.

[@QwertAsdfg-ih1ow]

And is run with woke cabal, only delusional fanatics like you otherwise

[@Bustermachine]

@@mikearchibald744 You're right. But a Critics job isn't to criticize. It's to CRITIQUE. Criticism seeks to point out flaws while a Critique is an analysis. Critics are supposed to critique. But criticism is more lucrative.

[@aureliodeprimus8018]

My father always said to me as a kid: "Don`t give money to homeless people, they only buy alcohol from it.". I wonder if i will say to my children: "Don`t give money to people on the internet or they will become like The Critical Drinker."

[@joelsoetendorp3279]

They should have a sequel with a guy with a really heavy irish accent who uses River dance as a martial art, and call it brogue element

[@lobodesade6780]

Thats just racist.

[@daviddaltrey714]

Glad you mentioned B1rdman and Josè in this video. Also, I wish you happy holidays as well. 🎄

[@PillarofGarbage]

and you! 🎅

[@robsolf]

Looking for Steven Seagal sitting in a chair somewhere in the background.

[@ponchowizard5182]

He was trying to snatch a muthafuckabirthday

[@fezparker2401]

can space ice review it?

[@JaniHorvat1]

Would be Fun, though I think they Made some videos together. Not sure if Ice would make that jab. ​@@fezparker2401

[@SgtWilko1979]

Conservatives don't seem to understand nuance. It's why they can claim Fallout and Metal Gear are right-wing conservative games.

[@simondepass]

Who are these imaginary people you're talking about? its people like you who are obsessed these team sports mentality in game media

[@pradlark]

Have you not seen the amount of conservatives that list 10 or so games calling them all apolitical of even right leaning and then include those games mentioned...

[@BaronVonQuiply]

@@simondepass You've never seen anyone who doesn't understand that Liberty Prime is making fun of red scare nutters, not state-capitalists (the people you think are Communists)?

[@AxleTrade]

when elon musk thinks he and his billionaires club and nazi sycophants are the rebels in star wars and not the empire.

[@maynardburger]

@@simondepass While it's true that many people take a vocal minority of people on Twitter and whatnot and over exaggerate their prevalence in the real world(which conservatives are actually far worse about doing, but anyways), there's undeniably lots of people who really seem to have redefined 'politics' to just mean anything about social issues, especially as it pertains to women and minorities. Actual real life politics, though? Not political. It's almost like right wingers have stopped caring about real politics and have made bigotry the sole and central pillar to their worldview.

[@rociomiranda5684]

I used to listen to him now and then until he took issue with the black female characters in Loki. Then I realized he just couldn't stand women and POC in important roles. So, I unsubscribed.

[@triloization]

Hey did he have problems with black people in Loki?

[@Nick-o-time]

​@@triloizationhe has problems with black people in general it seems

[@benwasserman8223]

I guess it’s true about art: those who can’t do…. whine excessively about how all successful media/IP has become woke and why it angers them so.

[@osirisatot19]

They don't make those videos because they can't make art, they make those videos to farm rage for clicks and money; they just also suck at making art.

[@patcho7518]

@@osirisatot19it may come from a point of jealousy.

[@ldcg106]

The same could be said about those who think certain IPs are "problematic" or that they "need to reflect the world we live in today" or want to adapt them for a "modern audience".

[@awandererfromys1680]

@@ldcg106 Which has always been a thing. How many different versions of Dracula exist? How many versions of James Bond? How many versions of Batman? Or Superman? Or Spider-Man? The Joker??? Remember how "relevant to current affairs" that movie was, even though it was a loose adaptation of 1982 _The King of Comedy?_ Comic books explicitly invented the multiverse to give all the different versions of superheroes a place and some sense of continuity. Way, way back in the 1950s. And we've been doing the Hero's Journey for over 2000 years now... You don't know the original Hercules, you only know the current iteration. I could go on and on. The world is always changing and art simply reimagines, reflects, and reinterprets. Now reboots/remakes (or whatever you want to call them) can be bad, but they're nothing new. And people complaining about them, or just pop culture in general, also nothing new. When I was a kid everything was satanic, now everything is woke. And still satanic. And the only real brainwashing going on in my cartoons was "BUY MORE TOYS!" Nobody rewatches _G1 Transformers_ or _He-Man_ because they simply suck. Anyway, it's all the same superficial rethoric, only the faces of the grifters have changed.

[@ldcg106]

@@awandererfromys1680 No, the way Hollywood and companies conduct themselves towards audiences has also changed; at least before they would pretend they didn't hold their audiences in contempt and would at least make products that will appeal to a bog enough audience to justifiy their existence

[@ianobrien3248]

I bet he didn't think Estonia was really real, lol

[@PillarofGarbage]

isn’t Estonia where Dr Doom is from?

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

​@@PillarofGarbageLatveria i think. Although bezween Marcel, Dc and Mission: Impossible you've practically a scrabble dictionary of "almost real fake states in Eastern Europe, Africa and Asia" to use ...

[@wambokodavid7109]

​@@PillarofGarbagelatveria

[@cyn1clcynide]

​@@PillarofGarbage 😂 imaginary Latverians foaming at the mouth

[@EstradaDuran-sg6co]

@@PillarofGarbage no.

[@JohnSmith-rm1po]

So his "Estonia" is basically just Ruritania, except that he didn't even have the decency to file off the serial numbers.

[@PillarofGarbage]

exactly this

[@WoobooRidesAgain]

He probably doesn't even know Estonia is a real country. But what can you expect from the guy who says his favorite Japanese film is Oldboy?

[@legogoka-boomstudio1838]

I mean I stopped watching him after realizing he was a printer spewing the same copy and paste arguments he saw on fox, infowars, etc. and that he had no original thoughts. So makes sense

[@dudewithachannel1163]

This ladies and gentlemen is why people like Drinker aren't working in Hollywood and leech off of it instead

[@justpassingby298]

I don't think saying Hollywood is good is any better

[@josephang9927]

Hollywood is decaying, tho. Foreign and independent films in streaming are taking over.

[@dudewithachannel1163]

@justpassingby298, well yeah but spreading conspiracy theories like Hollywood hiring women and minorities to use as pawns against white men doesn't sound like something a "film critic" would say either lol

[@dudewithachannel1163]

@@josephang9927, yet Drinker almost never discusses foreign films, Korean films for example are leagues more feminist than Hollywood. But Drinker won't discuss them because they're not mainstream. This is why his film sucks, he doesn't actually understand the elements of a good movie :P

[@dudewithachannel1163]

@@justpassingby298, well yeah but spreading conspiracy theories like women and minorities are hired to be used as pawns against white men doesn't sound like something a "film critic" would do either lol

[@phaIIicaIIyimpaired]

This is like the entertainment industry version of Sargon running for a UK government position back then. Comedic to witness, at least.

[@RoonMian]

It's only funny until one of them wins, see the game show host that's soon gonna be running the USA... Again...

[@wambokodavid7109]

BTW did he go through....as In win???

[@phaIIicaIIyimpaired]

@wambokodavid7109 na, extreme failure. Noone cared about him.

[@phill8223]

Never heard about that, that's amazing

[@hanifarroisimukhlis5989]

@@wambokodavid7109 Yes, as in tanked an entire political party. Who mind you caused Brexit. Speaking of karma

[@TheLongestTake]

and to think he has the arrogance to make video likes "The Drinker Fixes Alien Romulus". He can criticize all he wants but nothing I've seen about him as a writer tells me he's good at writing.

[@Coroplocs-Chameleon]

Really does prove “Those who can’t create critique”

[@johnglue1744]

Well to be fair Romulus sucks too.

[@TheLongestTake]

@@johnglue1744 absolutely not, lol. They shouldn't even be in the same conversation.

[@johnglue1744]

@ why not? Two shitty movies.

[@TheLongestTake]

@johnglue1744 one is miles above and beyond the other. Spoiler alert - Alien Romulus is better than anything CD has touched thus far. Cool, you don't like it. That's great but the overall consensus of critics and audiences alike enjoyed it.

[@MLennholm]

Critical drinker is a grifter. I remember one of his videos in the leadup to _Dune: Part One_ where he tried to present himself as an authority by saying "I've been a longtime fan of the Dune saga" only to go right on to say "Dune is the classic tale of the Chosen One's journey"... His entire schtick is a rip-off of Mr Plinkett, minus the creative elements.

[@based-ys9um]

The first book is a hero's journey. The rest isn't. he is a grifter though.

[@junioraltamontent.7582]

It being a hero's journey and a chosen one story *are* an integral part of the plot, as things are manufactured to be and appear that way in-universe. But him calling it a "classic chosen one tale" is wholesale missing the entire other half of the plot where monstrous consequences occur from giving fallible humans these means to control a galactic scale "trolly problem"

[@robsolf]

There's nothing in this film that counters any of the actual filmmaking issues he complains about. It takes a swim in them, tbh. I suppose his rule that a movie can't have anywhere near as many women as men in it is upheld. Didn't seem to change the quality much, to no one's surprise.

[@maynardburger]

Importantly, there are no dark skinned people in it.

[@cartilagehead]

@3:49 I literally thought he was breaking into song here for a second, my word what an enunciation choice

[@morrobotik8105]

Excellent commentary and great indepth analysis.

[@dashcarter1101]

As a black woman, I enjoyed Critical Drinkers perspective and commentary on lots of different topics. And then I realized there's a thinly veiled undercurrent of racism and misogyny in his narrative. I had to stop watching him.

[@zxbzxbzxb1]

Thinly veiled?? 🙃

[@spiderjeranimo4992]

Oh get over yourself.

[@Faction.Paradox]

Isn't "Bad Conservative Art" a tautology?

[@PillarofGarbage]

sometime tautologies can make for snappy titles :)

[@stilltoomanyhats]

'Bad conservative' is a tautology, 'conservative art' is an oxymoron.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

​@@stilltoomanyhatstauxymology then.

[@ethanlivemere1162]

​@@stilltoomanyhats And together they're a "tautol moron"

[@Zorae42]

​@@stilltoomanyhatsConservatives do make art. It's not good and shallow - just like their thinking, but it is art

[@michaelramon2411]

When you first said "rescue a man held by Russian-backed separatists in Estonia", the immediate thought of my geopolitics brain was "I'm sure the Estonian police and military would be HAPPY to help!" If they wanted a justification for needing black ops guys without any backup, having the prisoner moved across the border into actual Russia would suffice.

[@gregjackson4117]

Well dear viewer, looks like the drinker is getting a taste of his own medicine. Go away now.

[@mhdivito]

The problem most conservatives have is that you can’t create ’art’ with a closed mind. Instead you end up with propaganda for the status quo. Imagination requires depth, curiosity and openness.

[@JM-mh1pp]

Estonian separatists? What do they want to separate from? Estonia is independent country...

[@Reptil3]

Well, Estonia probably. Just like those fake republics in Ukraine.

[@celldh0825]

Maybe they want to separate FROM Estonia?

[@dannyhalas9408]

All the baltic states have sizable russian Russian minorities and the Russians never wanted to give them up. Although for the most part thees Russian minorities want bothering to to with Putin. It's all but certain the the Russian's would love to do a whole protecting the rights of Russian speakers in the baltics and do a Ukraine if it weren't for NATO.

[@franklinturtleton6525]

@@celldh0825 So they're.. migrants?

[@morgantrias3103]

I wondered that... I eventualy assumed "the EU" but if you told me they didn't kno Estonia was in the EU I'd buy that faster than Tallin is "knear the Russian border" lol

[@ggunnelspct]

I watched exactly one of his videos. The discussion of “Prey” before it came. He made a bunch of noises about warriors in the indigenous communities of North America as if he knew anything about the subject. It struck me that he’s a Scottish guy who has not even cracked open an introductory text on these cultures.

[@chetmanley1885]

You could apply that to anything he talks about

[@ianoz1]

Tell us why you're an expert... I'll wait.

[@ggunnelspct]

@ : While it’s not what I did in graduate school, I’ve taken some courses on the anthropology of these populations (let’s call them the indigenous population of the American plains) and female warriors weren’t unheard of. It’s true that gender roles were quite well defined, but that definition didn’t exclude them from being parts of warfare. I would note that the female protagonist and her relationship with the tribe she’s in demonstrates those gender roles - and she finds a way to buck them. The Critical Drinker argued that this would never happen. The reality is the reverse - women were often part of warfare and raiding (much of this related to frankly manpower shortages if nothing else). Check out the biography of the female warrior Lozen. Stop learning your history from Hollywood and pick up a damn book.

[@ianoz1]

@@ggunnelspct Agree about books. And Hollywood. A Lakota adoptee has been gently educating me for 30 years. Yes... you are 100% right. Female warriors, hunters & shamen did happen and in some cultures it was commonplace, but the Drinker's points were not about that generally. It was the notion about abandoning the tribe to go on a quest, which the elders would, under most circumstances, not have permitted. The inference (in this story) that defying gender norms and assigned roles weren't the done thing, her bucking against them (and getting people killed) would not be indulged. That's on the writers. In a film being praised for its accuracy, the writers found it easier to resort to that trope rather than portray Comanche society more accurately and then find a reason for her to be the rebel outlier. You may not like the Drinker's style or delivery, but I'd encourage you to watch the review again. He often cites "Predator" as his all-time favourite movie, and you get a sense why when he compares it to "Prey". Believe or not, his review would have sent more of his viewers to see "Prey" rather than discourage them from doing so. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4HFmX5piatrjK8

[@samurajenskaia801]

@@ianoz1 Well damn,seems like the wait was worth it

[@SlurpyPie]

We have to give Drinker some credit, Rogue Elements is a great cure for Insomnia.

[@jonathangrant480]

Hey, I recognize you from twitter and reddit!!!!!

[@Midekai]

Turns out it's harder to make movies than it is to criticise them~

[@ito2789]

I stopped following the Drinker and Nerdrotic when they became too self-indulgent, whiny and overly opinionated based more on their personal stances of the subject matter than the actual nuanced and professional takes that they initially had. They DID start sounding "anti-woke" and made it more clearer as time progressed that they, like the material they criticized, became one in the same.

[@BrendonLee]

Which is a shame because Nerdrotic introduced me to The Expanse. It got really frustrating because I started watching him to discover hidden gems that have been drowned out by mainstream mediocre content. But everything he puts out is just negative stuff about how he hates it. Okay fair enough, so tell me what stuff have you watched recently that you liked so we can encourage more people to like good stuff. It got worse when these 'critics' started panel shows which were nothing but a bunch of people making fun of the show with zero critique. That's when I realised they were just in it for the money and had no passion for the art of cinema.

[@ito2789]

@@BrendonLee exactly 💯

[@QwertAsdfg-ih1ow]

Bc movies become more woke bs..

[@Drums_of_Liberation]

Same with ItsaGundam as well.

[@SUP-h9d]

​@@QwertAsdfg-ih1owdefine "woke"

[@RoonMian]

The section about Estonian geography reminded me of when the A-Team movie with Liam Neeson showed a picture of my home city Cologne (including one of the most prominent landmarks in all of Europe, like only second to the Eiffel Tower and Big Ben's tower) and captioned it with "Frankfurt, Germany" Boy was I mad! >:V

[@PillarofGarbage]

man, now I’m thinking about Mangal Doner

[@RoonMian]

@@PillarofGarbage All hail Prince Poldi I. 👑

[@aj_2765]

When you were listing the characters at 10:39 I had a case of whiplash when I noticed their names, Drake, Frost and Dietrich, are all the names of marine redshirts from Aliens. :D

[@filteredjc4653]

Oh dear 😂

[@Bustermachine]

I mean, homages like that are fine . . . but people will make fun of you if the end product isn't good. So . . . laugh away lads and ladettes!

[@henryocean1908]

Yeah, I was waiting for Gorman, Apone, Hicks, Hudson and Vasquez to turn up.

[@RazorRex]

So glad to see people turning on and calling out The Critical Stinker. I hope he looses more than he ever had.

[@PeteOfDarkness]

It's funny when critic say "fine, I'll do it myself better" and flunks it just like rest of us would, if not worse.

[@Simyonovich]

A crypto fascist grifter is bad at art? Im aghast, agog, amazed and all-around astounded.

[@spiderjeranimo4992]

You have The Majority Report on your playlist, this suggests you may have a major far-left bias. You might be a smaller bubble than you think. Doctors suggestion, touch some grass.

[@cyberpimp29]

He has a fucking parody channel and its hilarious. "Crypto fascist" wtf? Get a goddamn life man.

[@seanfooch6475]

I feel like the drinker just doesn’t understand movies in general, and has this own self-fantasising view of what a “movie” is, and rouge elements proves it He keeps preaching about “fixing” films when he can barely make a somewhat ok film himself.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

Well fixing doesn't mean making the movies good, it means turning them satisfactorily intolerant as by his standards... ("dewokeing")

[@taranullius9221]

He's unironically got botox and plucks his eyebrows now. Look at him. Pretty woke there, Drinker.

[@spiderjeranimo4992]

Proof? How is looking good 'woke'? Also why are YOU using woke as an insult?

[@sterilustra]

Funny how he dedicates his life to criticize Hollywood for making "forgettable, woke/preaching first, no story crap", and yet when he gets the chance to show the world his critiques are not shallow, that he knows what he's talking about, that he can teach the big, "political fueled, agenda pushing bigots of Hollywood" how to do art, he can't seem to even live up to his own standard, as you say, I'm pretty sure you could take voice clips from his own channel, organize them on top of clips of his movie and you'd get a full "critique" suggesting the movie is just another "woke slop" piece of shit.

[@Coroplocs-Chameleon]

I thought it was gonna be Children of Slop but no!!! Time to grab the 🍿

[@PillarofGarbage]

Chapterhouse Slop when

[@XellithUS]

I remember the drinker advertising his new book and it sounded like the most generic Tom Clancy spy thriller political espionage copycat. I was not impressed then, and I'm not impressed with this.

[@macattackmicmac]

I remember the Critical Drinker reviewing Rhe Expanse commenting on "how refreshing it was to see a show without politics". I've never seen someone miss the point of a show that much. The Authors and later producers talk explicitly about how they included diversity in the story, and the second book is written as a political drama.

[@user-ze3sg6ix1u]

Including diversity is not bad on its own. It's when that's the priority, do you not get that?

[@223Drone]

​@@user-ze3sg6ix1u Except you get upset when ever a women, POC or a LGBT person appear.

[@maidingermany]

Is anybody really surprised? The books are god awful garbage which only his Fans likes, a sad rip off of Jason Born. This man can't write a propper story if his life depends on it, he's just the typical grifter without a spark of talent.

[@Yarghvid]

Ah, yes. Drinking and talking, the two most impressive skills a man can have.

[@skeletonbuyingpealts7134]

I wonder why he fakes being Scottish

[@Leahcimmichael]

He probably wanted to work for Vince McMahon

[@ProfoundKrab]

​@@Leahcimmichaelmaybe he's compensation for the fact that there's no Angus McCloud from where he's from

[@ExtremeWreck]

Because the UK is considered highly conservative compared to the USA?