The Curious Case of Tia Norfleet

[@bfludd843]

As a black man, I sincerely appreciate the way ur presented that. I agree with everything. Wrong is wrong all day. Be blessed.

[@RC.41]

Stallion 843 As a white man, ya’ll need to get a dude who has some talent to run with the white boys. We want to root for them. All of them so far have ABSOLUTELY SUCKED besides pretty much Wendell Scott

[@bfludd843]

@@RC.41 I didn't get on nascar til my 30's. In my next life I promise. Appreciate ur response. Definitely a subscriber

[@chrisd3969]

Honestly this stuff really pisses me off people like to complain because it's encouraged now. They are starting to do the same thing in hockey where we need to be more accepting of people that have next to no interest in playing the sport. It's just a load of crap the whole racism angle is given too much merit in the press which is funny considering the Nba is like 90% black but you never hear of that being racist. It's only sports that whites excel at that need to be changed.

[@HallucinatingHedgehogs]

Chris D I get your point but at the same time 90% black is better than the probably less than 5% of black players on the nhl and the one black driver in the top three series of nascar. I’m not saying to promote people or give people chances that don’t exhibit the talent or have the right experience to race in those categories. But it’s always good to try to market and appeal to other races and genders so that you can not only diversify your driver pool but to also potentially expand your fan base.

[@VictoryAviation]

You all know that one of the current best F1 drivers in the world is black right? He’s damned good, consistently... and he’s a class act.

[@gabewood983]

Added note: According to a friend that worked on the team, She was put in Wayne Peterson’s ARCA car during a practice at a race. She managed to fire the engine up, redline it at 9 grand while in neutral.... Stalled it, and Wayne ordered her to get out of the car

[@chada75]

DAMN!

[@lucarioaustin13]

Oof o.o

[@anthonykernich1035]

It takes talent to be fired from a start and park

[@NASCAR_Junk]

Did you know that Wayne Peterson has only finished 3 races out of 150 he's started?

[@gregoryhitchcock5258]

Can you say mainstream media fake news.

[@arwyss]

She’s a con artist. She accepted a bunch of “donations” to back her career... and never drove a car.

[@DrJReefer]

A con artist in motor racing?

[@digitalcamaro9708]

@@DrJReefer Yes

[@wolfo1931]

Wouldn't be the first time a conman got their way into stock car racing.

[@DrJReefer]

@@wolfo1931 I was being sarcastic AF. Motor racing is filled with scammers and con men. You should have a read about some of the scams and blags Eddie Jordan pulled off to keep his F1 team alive. Check our Aiden Millward's Story Time series for some real eye openers

[@SirKingBoo21]

@@DrJReefer Ever heard of L.W. Wright?

[@drppr76]

I always thought Bill Lester was a class act - wish he had more success in NASCAR

[@drppr76]

@@ChazISfat Actually Wade, Bill Lester came from a road racing background - he did better in the Rolex series than in NASCAR

[@remnunya9790]

@@ChazISfat You should actually get your facts right before you speak on something you have no idea about.

[@Konformation07]

@@ChazISfat Lol sure wade

[@mitchcolburn1216]

@@ChazISfat Yeah, he really should have done better considering he was driving for championship teams like Bobby Hamilton Racing and Bill Davis Racing. I'm sure he's a nice guy but he really wasn't a very good driver.

[@DupontandLowesWarrior]

Dirt To Daytona had him in the #8 for Bobby Hamilton Sr.

[@MotorsportsFan17]

After watching this, I can see why nobody remembers anything about this.

[@MannyFresh1x]

Motorsports Fan17 Good it’s history. Should be kept there.

[@51buschboy]

Now instead of calling people idiots for thinking she is legit, I’m just going to send them this link.

[@JohnSmith-mk5jt]

Yeah. It's hilarious how much people will defend her. They either think that she actually DOES race or that the reason that she isn't racing today is because of racial discrimination. Just wow.

[@mySelf-yx4hw]

yes thats a great idea

[@robertmoore029]

Yes this is a joke 😂🤣 wow unbelievable It’s hard enough to be a black driver and try to get into Auto racing but then a lie about your desire to really race this was just more for Photo shoot in media covers smh

[@Guerilla_G]

SlikRik804 why do you think that is...

[@Guerilla_G]

@@bowtiezr2534 Yeah, realistically why do you think it is that black people - who typically don't have millionaire families - aren't able to put up the currency to get racing.

[@robertmoore029]

🤣🤣 yea I feel you

[@Deathtofrogleghorn]

The sad part is, I’ve been doing a lot of research myself on her and I’m one of the few blacks in my neighborhood that watch NASCAR. She knew how to hustle and manipulate the media too. Prior to her 2011 or 2012 CNN interview, she only did interviews touting her being the first African American female NASCAR driver to predominantly black news outlets like BET and Essence and this was around the time only 6% minorities watched the sport-so of course when you have such a small percentage of her people watching the sport and are absolutely clueless about it, of course they’ll believe her. I saw some of them and that was a fatal mistake on her part. I’m black and I watch the ARCA, Nationwide, and Sprint Cup series and I NEVER seen her on the entry list at all for any of the races like she claimed. I knew then that she was full of shit and lying. If you also listen to and read some of her pre-CNN interviews and including that one, her knowledge of the sport is at the same level an average Joe’s is that hardly watches it-and it’s not professional. She was giving half-ass answers back to the interviewee. Then when I saw her on CNN where the demographics are a lot bigger, my reaction is “oh shit, she’s in trouble now” and sure enough Vivian Bernstein called her out being a lie in the NYT. I been knew she was lying. During my research on Tia too, she’s sponsored by Mobi Web NBC and the address she provided too was of a trailer park out in the middle of nowhere and NBC doesn’t do radio broadcasts in no trailer park. I think this was to fool people that a major corporation was trying to help her. There’s also no proof of her using her money she collected from folks to practice or get on the track. She is a complete fraud and I’m surprised nobody went after her and she’s not in jail yet.

[@Deathtofrogleghorn]

Another thing too that tipped me off too that she was lying is the fact that I subscribe to NASCAR’s newsletter, I’ve been following them on Facebook, I watch ESPN like crazy and follow them on Facebook too. Wouldn’t they have said something that they just had their first licensed black female NASCAR driver? That would have been huge news. She was under the radar up until she appeared on CNN. It was TADA, look at me. I looked and was like WTF? I never heard anyone within the BASCAR community really talking about her or any roomers of her. When I seen her on CNN and before that BET, I knew right then she was lying.

[@PhilipTheBigOne]

After watching this, I think we owe Natalie Decker a bit of an apology. Yeah she's not great, but she did well in K&N & has some actual talent in her (I also think the way her bosses treated her last year was not right for a rookie, even with all the incidents she was involved in).

[@justinkrizenesky]

Trust me, she isn't very good...

[@jamesdb7115]

The couple races she was in this year she was solid, running good at Daytona until she got taken out in a big one, not of her doing and brought it home in one piece at Vegas I think it was? It's not much I know, but it's baby steps and could be a confidence builder. More confident, she can have more faith in her race truck and talent. We will see how she responds once the season starts back up and she finishes the 7 or 8 races she's scheduled to run. Not a fan but wish her the best.

[@justinkrizenesky]

@@jamesdb7115 i just mean in general. She shouldn't even be in a truck to begin. Up in Wisco, she was a 6-10th place driver in SLM, getting lapped in the same races Majeski and Retzlaff dominate. She isn't good.

[@NASCAR_Junk]

@@jamesdb7115 she didn't get taken out. She finished 5th.

[@Nxtl68]

Natalie actually did well in the two races run this year

[@Secretarian]

Feel bad for Scott Pruett that he had to take this kind of gig.

[@rssvss]

Scott was always a force on the road courses , and many times said he deeply appreciated the opportunity to race them. He just didn't have the single focus it takes to run ovals. I am sure if he would have spent a year in the ARCA series, his one and only season in cup would have been different.

[@Secretarian]

I commented on Pruett because he was one of those guys that had a shot at winning Indy - 1995, spun out/crashed on lap 184 while running second (winds were gusting to 30 mph at that point). Sad, cause I don't think he ran Indy 500 again after that, due to IRL-CART split. Very articulate in pit interviews. Motorsports hall-of-famer in 2017.

[@rzabomb]

Scott still represents Lexus. He gets paid well.

[@aidanztrainsnthingz]

The Norfleet Family: NASCAR's biggest whiners and scammers

[@alwaysopen7970]

She got an attitude. I never heard of her before seeing this.

[@WootTootZoot]

And you never heard of any of them until now, huh?

[@hiredgun05]

I never heard of the Norfleet family either, until now. And I have to agree - a single start-n-park doesn't make anyone a driver.

[@thetechfromheaven]

The biggest N word 's

[@jussayinmipeece1069]

i scan the comments section looking for people like you, who like me, never heard of this young woman but i know there will be at least one like you> Gullible and stupid, making pronouncements about a person you have never heard of before this single video. Shut up and eat your paint chips. yes the video is informative and apparently balanced but you dont get to say shit since you dont know shit.

[@whatincarnation95]

modeling shots are her career highlight? LMFAO

[@chads8267]

Why I'm rooting for Hailie Deegan. Shes the real deal

[@grantaldrich1146]

Oh and by the way, she was still promoting herself as a nationwide series driver on her Instagram as of February 29th

[@DannyBTalks]

Oh my gosh.

[@yellow_x522]

I googled her wikipedia, no previous racing results what so ever

[@shappah221]

Grant Aldrich lol it isn’t even the nationwide series anymore

[@dcaseng]

She is nothing but a "fake it till you make it" wannabe who never made it. People love to bash Danica, but she was a REAL racer, regardless of whatever people think of her career.

[@Scales_of_lyfe]

I feel ya on that. Honestly I feel that Danica's efforts may have been something better if she'd a bit more grit in her racing styles. I believe that if she had more influences (like most drivers growing up) then she'd have been a category 4 storm of positive wonder.

[@LUXSTERIA]

@Callum Ratcliffe ?????????

[@alwaysopen7970]

Danica and Sarah Fischer were real.

[@alwaysopen7970]

@@Scales_of_lyfe Danica came from the world of finesse cars and into the world of muscling big cars around. You don't see a lot of big guys in open wheel cars.

[@alwaysopen7970]

@Callum Ratcliffe = dickhead.

[@Bill-McKinney]

The 'abandoned track' you talk about and show at 13 or 14 mins is Sandusky Speedway. It's 5 mins away from ThorSport's shop and they regularly practice trucks there. Sandusky also races weekly.

[@LukeDatema]

I could be way off, and hopefully I am. But, this looks like her dad lost a ton of money in the sport and then tried to use his daughter as a money making hype machine. Like I said, I hope I’m wrong. But you never know 💁🏻‍♂️

[@KayDizzelVids]

Yeah it sounds like that exact case. While I don't think that's the case, her dad did help her in her "career"

[@yellow_x522]

You may have a point

[@rzabomb]

. "Hey dad remember when you tried to race-bait NASCAR into letting you race even though you were dangerously slow? what if you had a vagina too?"

[@VladTepesVEVO]

You're not wrong. And their ace in the hole was the race card whenever things didn't go their way. It's absolute bullshit.

[@DavidLand91]

Great video DannyB. Fantastic.

[@alexteskey4398]

You should do a whole video on Bill Lester.

[@wordlesslfiddling]

Its probably good she never made to a national series i would be willing to bet she would have controversy every wrek

[@grantaldrich1146]

That thorsport part really pisses me off

[@rzabomb]

i mean, they MUST have bullshitted ThorSport, right? did they even know that was Tia? did they think it was just some fan? mind boggling they would actually allow this if they knew what was going on.

[@patrickracer43]

@@rzabomb ThorSport probably were told something completely different... maybe fake names, made up stories... which is probably on par for the Norfleets

[@31presto]

My name is Preston Tutt, google it, and I raced dirt and later moved to asphalt Late Models where my home track was Lanier Speedway in Georgia. Norfleet was a con and nothing more and because people have a propensity to believe far-fetched tales he was able to secure funding and buy equipment. I pitched the truth, nothing! I formed a friendship with the Scott family and Wendell, Jr., Frankie, Debra, Richie King (first cousin) came to Lanier at my request to watch me race and I never exploited their friendship and think it is disrespectful how Norfleet and his daughter have been so cavalier with using the Scott name. Norfleet's antics back then caused me a lot of grief because NASCAR mentioned his name ad nauseam to me and I was always trying to convince them that I was nothing like him. Norfleet took the color angle and I took the road most traveled, I took the racing angle.

[@DannyBTalks]

Preston, thank you for commenting. I became really familiar with you when doing the research on this, as articles about you often came up in my searches, and in my eyes, as a racing fan, you did everything the right way, and I applaud that. I hope all is well for you. Are you still doing much racing today....or, when the world is normal, I should say?

[@31presto]

@@DannyBTalks I last raced 8 years ago and sold my last complete Late Model last year. I get my car fix these days restoring old muscle cars. I was well known back when we were racing and I would like to think, and hope, that I was know for my driving ability and nothing more. I ran one truck race, did some ARCA stuff and ran a All Pro race at Homestead and I don't believe color was ever mentioned during the telecast. Funny story: I met Norfleet and on occasion would talk to him. Norfleet has almost convinced Ford Motor Co to sponsor him but with one caveat. Ford was going to have a factory backed team bring a raced prepped truck to Bristol and if Norfleet make minimum race speed Ford would provide factory support. I told Norfleet, well your color can't help now, it's showtime. He traveled to the track but made excuses not to get in the truck.

[@dragontalontsiawd]

Finally someone with real world experience that's not a bullshitting POS, Mr. Tutt I applaud you and appreciate your insight brother man... I'm no Chip Foose I do similar stuff you do, and people with real world experience need to chime in...

[@TotoDG]

Is the picture with Darian at your wedding? That's pretty cool. It goes to show how much of a family the NASCAR community is.

[@DannyBTalks]

SovietOnion yep. He was one of my groomsmen, and Jaret was my best man.

[@TotoDG]

Doubly epic!

[@jamiecloughgaming25387]

@@TotoDG You seem to be everywhere.

[@aidanztrainsnthingz]

Danica Patrick and Hailie Deegan could probably beat her in a race where Tia was going forwards and Danica and Hailie were going backwards

[@MainMite06]

Hey, at least Danica & Hailie Deegan *ACTUALLY STRAPPED IN AND DROVE RACECARS FOR EVERYONE TO SEE* !

[@LeilaRWilson]

I always wondered about her... She's the only other black girl I know of that's driven a stock car (and I only race Mini Stocks locally, so I don't think I really count. :V) It's kind of embarrassing, though, seeing as she kind of didn't really... drive it. Her and her dad both seem kind of delusional.

[@genedrakes686]

You have a heavy right foot so you count! Found out late was a fairly decent racer for karting. Nobody gave a crap about the color of my skin! I had even spent 3.5 seasons as a track marshall. I did not work at turn 1 for club races because I was pretty! Lap 1 was never boring! Put my time in and was not even looking for work ! 15 years of karting and the only time I was scared was when left in charge of track for a Sunday Arrive+ Drive race! When I did A+D I rarely missed the podium. When moved to club a top 10 was like a win. I really suck as my own mechanic! Had to quit karting due to medical reason and the kindness from everyone made all those 4am Sunday wake ups worth it!

[@rzabomb]

You do count, you actually race. Tia is a fraud.

[@Ultimate23Dragon]

Yeaaaaah I can totally see why no one remembers her... 😧

[@patrickracer43]

The article that starts out with "Move over Danica Patrick!" I just have to laugh. I mean say what you will about Danica Patrick's time in NASCAR, at least she could handle herself as a driver and has won a race in Indycar and a legitimate racing background, not just her in a firesuit and one late model start and park... oh, and Danica never wasted the time of Scott Pruett and Jack Hawksworth in a reality show to promote Lexus cars

[@alwaysopen7970]

Sat on the pole at Daytona. That's no easy feat.

[@yellow_x522]

4th place at the Indy 500, she was pretty good.

[@JohnSmith-mk5jt]

I always have felt like I was a tad too hard on Danica. Yeah, she really underperformed her equipment in Cup (I mean, REALLY) but in the Xfinity series, she had a decent run. Almost won at Montreal, and finished the highest that a woman ever has in NASCAR's top 3 series (4th in an Xfinity race at Las Vegas). She also did well in Indycar, almost winning the 2005 Indianapolis 500 and actually winning a race in Indycar at Twin Ring Motegi in 2008 (albeit an exhibition race, but still). So I would say that she was alright as a driver. Not great, or even good, just alright considering her competition.

[@jesseking82]

I was at that race at Motor Mile Speedway, it was terribly hilarious.

[@josephstarke9756]

Forgotten Nascar driver, Ryan Hemphill . Was part of the Chip Ganassi Racing driver development program back in like 2004-2005.

[@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT]

Joseph Starke what happened to him?

[@josephstarke9756]

@@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT Im not sure.I know Ganassi let him go as the developmental deal and thats all I could find. He had potential I thought. Did good in Arca.

[@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT]

Joseph Starke damn

[@Elickerjosh]

I remember watching Ryan dominate at the Motordrome in PA when I was in college nearby. Then he jumped to ARCA and won a bunch, had a few terrible Busch races, then disappeared...

[@AlonsoRules]

@@Elickerjosh Brian Keselowski said that his ARCA cars were far superior to the rest and he looked better than he was

[@PsychedelicGuy]

Inb4 she replaces Crafton when he retires. Yea, no. This is just embarrassing for females and African Americans alike.

[@Nuclearation]

She'd probably DNQ in a ThorSports truck

[@alwaysopen7970]

InB4 means what?

[@bl9707]

This has no bearing on African Americans other than her and her family. We are individuals. There’s no need for me to feel shame for her nonsense.

[@hrtvfan2870]

About the only reason Tia Norfleet's not being compared to the mysterious "L.W. Wright" in 1982 was that she didn't disappear into the ether after it was revealed she lied about her racing background.

[@comikdebris]

I believe "he" is the reason for need to provide proof of experience to compete now

[@TonyGilbert1]

@@comikdebris yup he is

[@charlesrobey796]

Never new who she was until now,great video.....

[@mtlnascarfan]

I've done 10 laps at the Andrew Ranger Racing School here in Quebec in a late-model stock car at almost 200 km/h so I guess comparatively speaking, I'm more of a race car driver than Tia Norfleet is.

[@Yyyyyy5]

Honestly you probably are.

[@JoshS05]

I did this project on African Americans in NASCAR and I look them up then I saw Tia norfleet. But I stop researching about her once I found out she didn't have a racing reference page.

[@JoshS05]

@@ruttedpanda7884 yeah I meant to say I finished it. I have it as a documentary on my channel but she's not in it. A few others aren't in it as well but that's cuz I had to do a less than 10 minute documentary.

[@JoshS05]

@@ruttedpanda7884 breaking barriers in history - African Americans in NASCAR

[@buckeyebullet9838]

The abandoned track Sandusky Speedway is not actually abandoned but has recently been listed for sale. It’s also practically across the street from the ThorSport race shop....

[@DennyDeliversYT]

Well... I wonder why we don’t remember this... 🤔

[@Ultimate23Dragon]

So... any of y'all wanna make fun of Natalie Decker or Danica Patrick or even Angela Ruch *_now!?_*

[@sneekibreeki8162]

Well I make fun of anyone that sucks. You should know this considering our forgettable argument over Brandon Jones

[@danachappell9783]

Ultimate23Dragon We just makes fun of Angela’s husband now because of his Twitter antics

[@kswheels]

@@danachappell9783 Rat was totally Angwla pretending to be her husband..

[@CharlesB9496]

Yes. Yes we will.

[@sportstrap4285]

Nah they suck to, this community makes fun of bad drivers not women, same reason Ricky Stankhouse, Brandon Jones, and Rick Ware Racing as a whole gets made fun of

[@RubyWithCamera]

I...how did she even pull that last one off? If you even slightly followed nascar you'd clearly know that wasn't her truck and firesuit! No wonder I've never heard of this girl until now😂

[@ixlr8677]

only shes doin is the race card.

[@slowanddeliberate6893]

I'm a sim racer, and I can drive a lot better than these Norfleets. 17mph off the pace? SMH...

[@Brunnen_Gee]

Sim racer here too. By the Norfleet logic, I'm a NASCAR driver because I do lots of ovals in iRacing. I even have gloves. But I've also won races so...

[@JacobRayLawson]

I would consider myself a pretty big NASCAR fan and to be honest I have never heard of her. Great video though

[@stewpuddy4161]

Thanks for the video Danny! Going crazy without racing and being locked inside during this coronavirus mess!

[@robbinscarberry8085]

Wow. That’s the craziest story I’ve ever heard. I’m ashamed my local track let her race.

[@thedailycowman]

and that is Tia Norfleet in the Tampax car now down 33 laps, as the leaders cross the line to complete lap 34.....

[@hiredgun05]

Now that's FUNNY right there!!! I don't care who ya' are!!! LOL

[@jk3838]

You sure you put the plug in right ? Only we leakin’ all over the garage floor

[@justinheretotroll3032]

This has inspired me, Brett Buffett to pre-enter for the Chili Bowl and never field and entry.

[@60nascar]

The 47 napa the great Kelly Moore one of best local short tracks drivers of the north east miss watching him and the rest of the Bush north

[@nascarnational]

Tbh I always thought that Tia's time in the sport was fishy, and I was right. Really stupid story in my eyes 🤣

[@TechniSean1]

Sounds like that family has more issues than no talent. Just because you want to play with the big boys doesn't mean you should

[@NickJohnsonSaxophone]

Finally someone said it!!! I used to say this back in the day when her info first broke out.

[@cementer4life]

I've been a nascar fan since the early 90's when I was but a lad myself.... never once heard of the Norfleets. This is some crazy stuff

[@yellow_x522]

This makes me respect actual drivers like Haley Deegan even more

[@brandonsettle8089]

Let's not forget about Jennifer Jo Cobb here, she's been an owner/driver in the truck series for over 10 years, she may not have the funding of the big teams but at least she shows up every week and gives everything she's got

[@quadirbrown3800]

Hell yeah.

[@vellbariaofficial]

@@brandonsettle8089 and so is Natalie Decker :)

[@vellbariaofficial]

include Erin Crocker too, she may not race on a higher series, she is a journeywoman of her own and stayed committed despite the placement.

[@brandonsettle8089]

@@vellbariaofficial absolutely, Natalie races anything she can to gain valuable experience, heck she's got a top of the line simulator for IRacing whenever she either doesn't have any races or is preparing for one to keep her skills sharp

[@carrsllccarrillo6507]

What blows my mind is how dare they smear that #34 number! It's a insult to Wendall Scott! I mean at least that man had the desire to drive, a veteran of the forces and into his old age he still wanted to race despite his injuries. Nothing was given to him, he earned every bit of it and if he isn't in the Nascar Hall of Fame now, He should be! Not like this imposter of a family who wanted everything to get themselves into the lime light (the wrong way) without lifting a finger and down right lie about it all. Good riddance!

[@asleep909]

Indeed...BTW-Mr. Scott was enshrined in the NASCAR Hall of Fame in 2015. There is also a marker designating his success in stock car racing in his hometown of Danville, VA. 147 top 10s and 20 top 5 performances would make him a star in today's racing...he is a hero and a legend without any doubt!

[@donnieearlharrisjr5941]

Most indeed ! Wendell Scott started from the ground up and back then they ran a lot more smaller tracks . Wendell had talent not just the credentials of being a black man to earn a starting spot because of race! It takes talent and the proving grown to work your way up for your safety and the others ! This Bobby guy makes me sick!

[@quadirbrown3800]

Wow is Wendell Scott really not in the Nascar Hall of fame?

[@ianmiller486]

8:38 Hank Hill

[@imtweetydiva29]

Thank you for video I am black/native American Indian and you presented this video so well! I am brave to say it: I don't care if you are the first African American female racer. It is about talent and experience! 🤨

[@paulcerrezin2498]

Awesome video! I wish we could go back to those tracks from the truck series.

[@bw-leftturnracing7779]

Portland! Portland! Portland!

[@jamesdb7115]

Agreed. Be nice to see. I loved seeing the big 3 at Dover when I went and I know others do too but more standalones would be nice.

[@joshblackburn8038]

You should do the same kind of story about that E2 Northeast Motorsports lady. Basically pulling from the same playbook as Tia. Claims to be the first black female nascar team owner and I’m pretty sure she just got some crew shirts printed for her and her sons...and that’s it.

[@laa0fa502]

Somehow you left race out of like 99% of the video. Great video. Love the racing community on KZbin. Nascar and F1 have such quality content creators

[@ashleytester1049]

I never heard of her or her dad. Also just from your video, and you presented it in a respectful manner. But the facts are her dad tried to play the race card to force Nascar to let him drive. They should have banned him from all Nascar events and locations for life. If Tia began racing all we would hear is the race card every time she failed to qualify or crash. It's bad business, and very toxic for someone to use racism to get what they want. I find it very offensive for her and her dad to be like that and lie. It put everyone in Nascar from drivers to crew to Nascar front office in bad situations

[@quadirbrown3800]

That's a fact my friend.

[@millzlane6589]

I remember sharing on Facebook that picture of her in the fire suit. Waiting to see her race... Oh well, at least my daughter had Danica Patrick to root for. This was great journalism! Your only bias was, you're a racing fan!

[@DannyBTalks]

And that’s not a bad bias at all in my opinion.

[@FordRacing-qk1bg]

9:56 That's my local grassroots track, Seekonk Speedway!

[@FlagmanGraphics]

SAME!!!

[@FordRacing-qk1bg]

@@FlagmanGraphics AYEEEEE!!AWESOME!

[@FlagmanGraphics]

@@FordRacing-qk1bg You ever see the kids flagging at the start finish line?

[@FordRacing-qk1bg]

@@FlagmanGraphics Oh yeah!

[@FlagmanGraphics]

@@FordRacing-qk1bg I'm one of those kids. My Dad announces there too

[@CraigDanby]

Great video, I'm new to NASCAR and I appreciate your videos

[@DannyNGraysOfficial]

Wow this was really awesome and so interesting I remember hearing about them crazy story dude !!

[@patrickracer43]

"Move over Danica Patrick! Here comes Tia Norfleet!" Danica Patrick: led laps in the Daytona 500 and Indianapolis 500, won an IndyCar race at Twin Ring Motegi in Japan and could have won a nationwide race at Circuit Giles Villeneuve in Montreal, Canada, was able to attract sponsors and intrest to the sport. Tia Norfleet: ?????

[@patrickracer43]

If I was Bill Lester, I would have taken a swing at Bobby Norfleet, mainly for setting the cause of African-American drivers in NASCAR

[@eastonwest7958]

Scott Pruett? I think he was in NASCAR at one point. Maybe he can be in the next episode of "5 NASCAR Drivers you forgot about".

[@kenwoodall837]

Thanks for the video. I was at that Portland truck race and remember hearing about the Norfleet controversy then watching how slow he was in the race.

[@davidgambill3568]

Hey I dunno if your taking ideas for drivers but one name I just thought of that i haven’t thought for a while is Andy Santerre. Great videos btw keep up the good work!

[@FlagmanGraphics]

The Track you use with the Late Models, is my Home Track, Seekonk Speedway! My Dad announces there! You should come up one day and watch Danny! Best racing around! No question!

[@FlagmanGraphics]

@Elite Soulfly What Division. When. I might have been there

[@Me-zt8gy]

Danny, loved the video. I'd love to hear you talk about Patty Moise. A REAL female driver.

[@quadirbrown3800]

I Remember hearing about tia norfleet. Thought it was gonna be groundbreaking something new but it didn't really go that way.

[@lynnhardyjr4383]

I have some memory loss issues so I apologize for not being able to recall these 2 particular drivers names.. but there has been several "black" stock car drivers that not only did well but won and won alot. One of those guys raced at San Antonio Speedway in the early 2000's in their stock car division and either won or was in the top 3 every race. And another young man who came up through the ranks in the Nashville area who raced the Nashville Fairgrounds Speedway in the late model stocks won week after week, I believe driving a #4 with a pair scheme similar to the Morgan McClure Kodiak cars. I bet Waltrip or Sterling Marlin would know who I'm talking about. Culturally circle track racing hasn't been nearly as popular with people of color as Drag Racing has.

[@silverpairaducks]

Willy t ribbs

[@fissh29]

No we.don't need more diversity...we need the MOST TALENTED drivers, no matter if they are green blue black brown or white!!!

[@kubemaster]

Sail Oria complete refit Well that’s part of the problem, racing in general do not promote diversity. And generally the Black racers specifically have to be well above and beyond to get a chance, or get sponsors. Meanwhile, you can be white and mediocre if you have money and get a seat.

[@fissh29]

@@kubemaster nope! They get first shot with this diversity bullshit.

[@jamiecloughgaming25387]

Yes I would love to see some more blue drivers there aren't enough of them.

[@thesockpuppetguy7626]

Dude great video. If you can try to find a way to do more of these on certain forgotten drivers

[@keithgood8122]

Wow. Great research. Thanks.

[@asleep909]

I waited to watch this video because I was expecting something worse than the truth. You've gained a subscriber. That said...I saw a clip @13:23 that showed a #34 car with an 'OXY WATER' sponsorship. That company was based next door to my brother's print shop in Lewis Center, OH...the pair that set up that company? Served prison time for federal wire fraud. Kind of an interesting coincidence, and probably the only 'other' reason I'd heard of Tia Norfleet before this. Again, good video and thanks for sharing!

[@wcpjams]

WOW, Thank You for shedding some light on this. When I first saw her picture and read about her, I was absolutely amazed and definitely supportive. I started looking for her name in racing events, but she was nowhere to be found. And now I know why. I definitely still love her because she is "Black and Beautiful" but apparently, she is "No" racecar driver. But I would like to ask you, do you have a video or any information about Willie T. Ribbs? who was a racecar driver.

[@DannyBTalks]

I do not as of now. But I’ve met Willy before. Great guy, and he was a legit driver, unlike Tia.

[@wcpjams]

@@DannyBTalks Oh Ok, Thank you for replying

[@MLMWarriors]

Thank you. Come to Anderson Speedway in Anderson, Indiana.

[@TotoDG]

To be fair, a truck or boat is fairly cheap compared to a Lexus. That said, I still think it's stupid, especially since it was a competition from Lexus themselves.

[@DannyBTalks]

SovietOnion ehhhh....try bass boats costing upwards of $50,000-$60,000...

[@TotoDG]

Oh, really? Well, bass fishing is not my area of expertise, so I apologise for my ignorance.

[@DannyBTalks]

Rutted Panda yep. For many years.

[@DannyBTalks]

Rutted Panda maybe one day, when I actually have time to do stuff for my DannyBFishing channel. It’s almost impossible to do two channels unless one is financially stable enough to do KZbin full time, and right now, it’s not.

[@Cuhh346]

I'm 16 rn, I race go-karts locally and I would consider myself better than those norfleets since I compete against people almost double my age and finish podium

[@tonybarnett1158]

Never heard of her. Nice to see some honest reporting for a change.

[@Dancingontgesun1942]

I'm a black Kyle Busch fan and I love the idea of anyone trying to be a successful 2nd gen driver, however this is Fing Nascar. Nascar is one of the most challenging racing formats in the world. Many world champions and talented drivers from other racing formats have failed bad. So unless you grew up on a racing team, been driving all you life or your name is fuc'n Cole Trickle, if I don't see a long successful racing record in late models, open wheel, go karts, I KNOW we don't have a driver here.

[@CJsgarage01]

Fake it until you make it......FAIL

[@7easton7]

That tweet putting her in the same league as Lewis Hamilton and Antron Brown..🤣🤣🤣

[@Frowny13]

9:53 Hey that's Seekonk speedway!! Excellent photo choice!!

[@matthewwestover2270]

Sure was. My buddies orange and yellow #50 is in the shot.

[@DavidRagan3134]

I've been around or a long time, and this is the first I've heard of her lol She makes Angela Ruch look like Jimmie Johnson.

[@rpiazza72]

This was really well done and fair reporting. Tia Norfleet is a story I periodically check in on just to see where it is these days. As a person of color, I love seeing other people of color break into sports we traditionally are not in. The problem is not everyone is out there with genuine intentions. Bobby clearly played the race card in his career when it was totally unfounded. NASCAR is one of the few true sports. A true sport is one where your life is at risk, so NASCAR is absolutely right to keep people out who could harm themselves and others. His daughter TIa is the same, play the race card, play this game of alluding you are something you are not. This is messed up because there are real issues of race and prostituting the race card minimizes real instances of racism. Look at what Bubba Wallace is actually doing. You have been more than fair in your reporting. Tia Norfleet is a grifter playing race to enrich herself and set us all back in the process.

[@RJLightning68]

Tia kinda reminds me of Tana Mongeau in a way.

[@ze_german2921]

15:18: I cant believe someone put Tia Norfleet and Lewis Hamilton in the same sentence. If I was Lewis, I would be pissed. Lewis Hamilton is only a 6X Formula 1 Champion. Just one championship away to match the greats of M.Schumacher, Petty and Earnhardt.

[@jimdoire2177]

Really good video DannyB. I have to admit, I've never heard of her or her dad. They both seem very sketchy. Keep up the good work.

[@donwariomd5953]

The term “equality” is overused. You don’t see white people complaining about the lack of white cornerbacks in the NFL. “Equality” simply means non-white in the modern context. We don’t need affirmative action in sports. Let the most qualified athletes rise to the top. P.S. Don’t use “muh poverty” as an explanation either. Obviously there are drivers who have benefited from nepotism (Ty & Austin Dillon, Dale Jr, Chase Elliott, etc.) But any true race fan knows the impoverished south is where American racing was founded and built on. You don’t need to make excuses for entire populations of people. Just accept that some people don’t have the interest or the ability to race at the highest level.

[@alexthesniper1952]

Big Facts. Great point with the NFL and the Defensive backs argument.

[@DannyBTalks]

I just have to say “Broklahoma Zoomer” May quite possibly be one of the best names I’ve seen on KZbin in a long time.

[@Bodhes]

Broklahoma Zoomer But because black people come from poorer areas it is harder for black people to get into NASCAR. So they should get some opportunities. The case presented in this video is ridiculous and talent should be first. Also in a sport like a football it’s on a fair playing field and African Americans take to work harder.

[@kimberlykennemore4228]

Is this opinion coming from a minority or different culture? Surely to god you cant think we all get the same opportunities right? Look around nascar now & all of the backdoor driver/family/sponsor deals that almost guarantee a cup ride for no reason other than knowing the right people. I mean dont get me wrong you definitely have to have talent but black and brown people rarely get that access to sponsors and or funding to put those deals together. And if they do they're looked at with a side eye that no one else would get. Because its like where did you get money?

[@mitchcolburn1216]

E-fucking-xactly!!! Thank you!!!

[@gmain1977]

She just wanted to be model in a racecar suit and had no passion about racing. As a Blackman who loves cars this video is spot on and racism was not the issue. She faked been a race car driver. Wanted people to believe she a big timer. But you get found out.

[@ellisjackson3355]

Good video..... It's too bad for them lol. I remember seeing her name and pics pop up in the past and thinking "wow she's gonna be racing?" And then wondering when I'd hear more about her.

[@bryandavis5536]

Pretty cool documentary, thank you. I was searching your site for your take on Hailie Deegan

[@DannyBTalks]

Bryan Davis have not done a video exclusively on Hailie, but I think she has a bright future in the world of NASCAR. Over on my buddy’s channel, The Iceberg, on Episode 100 of the NASCAR Weekly Podcast, Hailie was a guest on the show, and it was a great opportunity to speak 1-on-1 with her

[@HPayne62]

2:27 Have you heard of the Stanley Cup?

[@willisix2554]

But the difference with the Stanley Cup is, as long as you win it you can keep it, when you lose it it's over

[@bigworried4759]

The track in the Thinx article isn't abandoned. It's my home asphalt oval but it is up for sale and other dirt oval owners came out to try and buy it to turn it into a dirt oval and a WoO track.

[@David-ki6jq]

Great video. Thank you

[@kaserousyt]

Just wanted to ask that is the picture used in 9:55 at Seekonk Speedway? I noticed the 46 Everett Late Model and am wondering

[@Orangeonix]

Bobby norfleet is the lavar ball of nascar

[@jaymanz72584]

Lollllll

[@kart44]

One thing you should know is theres not many top drivers most try like Tia but fail. You wouldn't know until you hit the seat yourself

[@DannyBTalks]

Tia didn’t really try in the slightest.

[@KayDizzelVids]

Thank the gods she didn't make it to the Nationwide series. She'd cause an incident if she didn't manage to embarrass herself first.

[@TheMan750]

I’ve never heard of her, and as a Black Man who is a NASCAR fan, I’m glad I didn’t.

[@KR1736]

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say my iRacing experience makes me more qualified

[@danholihan41]

Great video

[@zolovezwifenina8737]

As a black man and listening and watching your video it seems to me that her father was a little bit bitter because of his unsuccessful run at NASCAR that he put his daughter up to doing this for nothing but embarrassment I feel bad for her but for her father he should be ashamed of himself for using his daughter to satisfy his ego. So what I'm going to do is give him a 👎🏾 and give you a👍🏾 because I love your video and your content.