The Curse of Big Contracts

[@deandunn-q1o]

How does a family go to games with the price of tickets,food and drinks? This is madness.

[@mattkoselowski-wh9vj]

Because in Edmonton - hockey/Oilers rate higher than religion!. Unless you've lived in Edmonton and been to games, you will not understand.

[@pattaccone]

Totally. Luckily the home viewing experience has drastically improved so at least we don’t have to watch on a tiny tv with no sound and colour 😂

[@WinstonElliott-gi8ck]

And like religion, they’ll sacrifice their families and future for a seat in the pews?

[@Koersky]

I got tickets as cheap as $25 last year, generally more like $40 tho, and I rarely eat or drink at the game, so it’s pretty cheap for me

[@classic.cameras]

You don't. Those days have been over for decades. Its why most NHL teams conveniently have a CHL team like Oilers with the Oil Kings and Flames with Hitmen. Its so families can go to hockey games, get their kids hooked on hockey and maybe one day blow a pay cheque going to a NHL game.

[@jimclarence5441]

Not really a curse having big contracts. It's a curse having big BAD contracts. Nurse is one (for the Oilers) as are the buyouts that linger for years.(Neal and Campbell.).

[@Dorian803]

The Jets would love a reason to give out a massive contact.

[@jimclarence5441]

@@Dorian803 You're right you want that "star". But most teams even non playoff team are at or near the cap. To quote a former MLB GM, "It isn't the high cost of stars that hurt you, it's high price of mediocrity ."

[@CashMacGregor]

edmonton is going to get squeezed when bouchard wants his payday and his agent will be talking about nurse's deal.

[@reignofrock]

Say what you want about Nurse but he is a better defensive defenseman than Bouchard. Bouch ought to get a bridge at 6.

[@CashMacGregor]

@@reignofrock nurse doesn't deserve the shade thrown at him but his deal will be used at the negotiating table for bouchard's deal.

[@coleh9990]

Bouchards great but he’s not as good as everyone thinks. People forget TYSON BARRIE led the league in D man points. It’s not because of those players skills. It’s getting to play with davo and drai

[@esperago]

Yes, exactly. Edmonton has to win this upcoming season because McD, Drai, Nurse and Bouch will have salaries that tie-up about 50% of the cap. HALF the cap. There's no way they can flesh out the rest of their lineup with only $40-$50 million to spend on 19 other players.

[@coleh9990]

@@esperago Bouches new contract won't come into effect till 2026-27 season. So realistically they have at least the next 2

[@Lebroyal]

Mcdavid 15, draisaitl 14, bouchard 10, nurse 9. This team, especially with nurse, cannot compete long-term.

[@KanadianGOOSE8]

Oilers are gonna have a hard time keeping Mcdavid and Bouchard and still keeping a team with good depth

[@fortune5658]

The cap is going up so not really

[@jackmaloney9936]

@@fortune5658 yes the cap goes up which will help edm. But it also increases the cap for the other teams more

[@fortune5658]

@@jackmaloney9936 Yes but they don't exactly have a problem with offensive depth rn so they just need to maintain it

[@KanadianGOOSE8]

@@fortune5658 You do got a good point

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

McDavid not going anywhere now

[@LispyOnSaltz]

the oilers really had no choice but to resign him though

[@urban_89]

Excellent video, good to know theres someone out there that looks at these contracts the same way i do

[@KingSteady]

Oilers will always be competitive until playoffs. Edit: It's the classic "don't put all your eggs in one basket". You want a more balanced team. I seen a statistic showing how Montreal was in last place and had like 1 player hit ppg in last 20 years, compared to other Canadian teams that have had up to like 9. But in the same time span, Montreal had the most playoff series wins of all Canadian teams. This includes all of the years with core four Toronto. Look it up.

[@BloodRider1914]

Price hard carried us for a while tbf

[@KingSteady]

@BloodRider1914 Carey definitely was a case of "all of our eggs in one basket". Overworked the man into early retirement too.

[@randoir1863]

Next video idea . All the talent Toronto has let go vs all the talent they have . Who has more points ?

[@hockey_all_star5895]

Brain dead lol, comparing like 15 players to like 6 is crazy

[@Kikuchan88]

Rob Talks Hockey has already made a video about this.

[@BobbyBoucher228]

@@hockey_all_star5895​​⁠The Leafs let go of those 15 players so they could keep those 6 players. So it isn’t brain dead, it’s a trade off expecting a few players to bring the same value as a deep well balanced team and the experiment hasn’t worked at all against the best teams in the playoffs so I’d say it’s a fair point.

[@Troly758]

Love your content

[@HecticHockey]

Thank you!

[@patch8376]

Great video. Well-argued. I'd actually like to see the max contract come down to 4-6 years. Albatrosses hurt the league.

[@beneasler8868]

If any duo could win a cup with 30+% cap tied up its McD and Draisaitl. However, the '09 Pens didn't have a Nurse-like contract. Their two best defensemen in Gonchar and Letang weren't making much compared to their value at all (Tanger might've still been on the rookie contract). Staal was also huge for that run so maybe playing Nuge at 3C could help spread the love better

[@ZachPenner]

I Can't wait to see what the Kaprizov and Mcdavid contracts are gonna be.

[@HanCholo112]

please use more videos of the leafs getting scored on

[@HockeyTruther]

Nurse is their Tavares. Pens never had a bad contract during their cups. Almost every cup team with a ~10m player on it has been earning their contract at the time of the cup: Kucherov, stamkos, Crosby, Malkin, ovechkin, bobrovsky, tkachuk, Tavares is good but an 8m player at best. Nurse is good but a 4.5m player at best. Cannot win with those types of deals. It’s not draisaitl, McDavid, Matthews, Nylander or marner

[@Xavier-016]

Marner gets way too much hate. He got 85 points in only 69 games played this year. And his playoff record is 50 points in 57 games. He's no Draisaitl, but dude is 100% worth $10M.

[@BobbyBoucher228]

@@Xavier-016It’s not about what Marner brings to the table in the playoffs or any of the other core four players, it’s about what the team is sacrificing so they can keep all four players on those huge contracts that is the issue which is lack of quality depth.

[@Xavier-016]

@@BobbyBoucher228 If they wait one year, Tavares' $11M will be off the books, so they won't have any cap issues.

[@chungang7037]

I'm convinced every GM is aware of this, but many of them are not concerned with winning the cup but filling seats by being good enough go on playoff runs, at least on paper.

[@silentnyrf3161]

Bouchard and maybe Stuart skinner too

[@SalSagev-n3s]

9:28 Glad you included this goal. Drai's crazy good.

[@IIzTrollin]

I think whats more important is what % of the cap the space takes up, and obviously as the contract goes on the cap % goes down. Playing NHL theres no way id take anyone over 12m and thats only if they are franchise and under 26 signing a 8 yr deal. no way these teams can build a winning team with that much cap in two players.

[@KrisH-bt5cm]

Big Edmonton fan here. We now only have a two year window to win. Nurses contract is a boat anchor. Bouchard is going to get paid then what. Honestly hoping he just had a so so year so we don’t have to pay him 10 million. Almost 50 million between 4 players won’t be good at all.

[@EichelTower9]

Ignore the haters my man, great content!

[@EDMOilers]

People are forgetting that players will take a pay cut to play on a competitive team beside Draisaitl and Mcdavid.

[@galkanftw]

Paying for numbers can be a big mistake because no one player will win a cup albeit does help. Draisaitl put up decent numbers last playoffs but versus Florida he was pretty bad he did not play up to his worth.Tampa got away with it only because they cheated the cap they played a system ful of loopholes and ruins the integrity of the NHL cap era.

[@housetube-bc4lb]

never heard anyone say DiPietro's name like that

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

Honestly it going to be broken since i do see them winning it soon ,lets remember the cqp will become over 90 million soon.

[@CarPig]

Babe wake up Hectic dropped

[@mitchspruyt]

Never heard of this channel till now. Pretty mid

[@Musicmelo14]

@@mitchspruytbro what 😂

[@CaydenStanley-r8o]

@@Musicmelo14he’s not lying

[@Musicmelo14]

@@CaydenStanley-r8o if he’s mid then why do u watch him

[@jopiorienteering]

If salary cap keeps rising a lot in the next 8 years Oilers will probably be fine. But if not...

[@EclipseJay]

" make a tough decision about Nurse " ? What decision !? He's untradable , has a no move and they can't afford a buyout of that length and size especially with Campbell on the books . . . Nurse and his contract are the main reason the Oilers don't have a cup right now

[@notowie7024]

I think you failed to mention the cap is going to rise exponentiallly next few years, like 5m+ per year. Theyll be fine those percentages drop each year. I think they're fine

[@michalsuchanek5324]

Yeah but you can't totally compare Tampa and Edmonton, cause in Florida are so much lower taxes, so players here could demand less money contracts and it's easier to spread money to others correctly

[@tylercassidy5720]

Mcdavids going to play in the AHL and get 17 goals a game

[@780tk]

If we can win Atleast one cup then the contract is worrth it

[@BUZZNIGHTYEAR99]

The reason why Tampa Bay is able to pay their stars under market value is because they are a no income tax state. 9m goes a lot further when you don't pay state income tax.

[@SalSagev-n3s]

Such a good point. Same goes for Vegas.

[@BloodRider1914]

True, but Tampa Bay is also probably the most well run team in the NHL with a fantastic and winning team culture and excellent coach. It's not hard to see why a competitive player would want to go there.

[@BUZZNIGHTYEAR99]

@@BloodRider1914 They drafted their cup winning team. Kucherov, Stamkos, Hedman, Vasilevskiy were all obtained through drafting. The only notable signing they have made was Jake Guentzel recently.

[@codyharder571]

You forgot to mention Evan Bouchard

[@bryansullivan8091]

Good vibes good video. With Leon signing this type of contract. I am a really scary thought of a drama filled season from Edmonton and Mcdavid on his high horse being traded to other Canadian team or LA

[@MightyGoldCR]

It’s not a curse, its inflation

[@dopeboygangsta]

The curse 😂😂😂 yeah poor mathews tkachuck

[@philippemiller4740]

Sakic was paid like 16 million per season 20 years ago

[@goldfingershat]

No salary cap back then

[@BobbyBoucher228]

Federov was paid 26 million one season during Detroit’s heyday which is still far and away most any player has ever gotten paid in a single season in the NHL.

[@topcheesesnipe5594]

What do you mean by whether the Oilers can afford to keep that bum Nurse? It's whether they can afford to trade several assets to get rid of him.

[@D3god]

A single 10M$ player injured or having slump and your playoffs are done.

[@biglebowski3961]

I think if you draft a player and resign him, that team should get charged with only half of the contract against their cap. This would enable teams to keep their rosters competitive and retain players they develop.

[@HecticHockey]

Sadly that’s not how money works

[@aarongriffin4901]

Teams that aren't competitive aren't that way from losing their top picks! It's from missing on them.

[@aarongriffin4901]

Also how would that work because most decent players get the signed because they sign an entry level contract and then are RESTRICTED free agents.

[@biglebowski3961]

@aarongriffin4901 I'm just trying to think of something before this whole thing blows up. All this money in sports isn't sustainable. Will all come crushing sooner or later.

[@aarongriffin4901]

@@biglebowski3961 no it won't... Why do you think teams get relocated? Because the current home has given up to the point that the team and league are losing money. The only way sports crashes is if something forces them to reduce their profit and for the common public to give up one of their few getaways

[@nostradamus420]

Trust the #Yzerplan #LGRW

[@BingChillinCR]

Don't Jynx the contract 😢😢😢

[@s-a-n-d-o-t-e-c]

Thanks for making this video, people don't understand that the deal wasn't actually super unfriendly to the team. I think it's proven that when you're talking about these guys who you can rely on in the playoffs, you're just lucky to have them however it has to work. The Oilers also can't afford to lose them with the fact that they attract the other talent to the city, these two players carried the team into relevance, and if they left, there's no reason for another player to try to replace them and give a good deal to Edmonton at the same time. No matter where these guys go, teams would have to sacrifice flexibility, and idk I'd almost pay a few million as a team just not to face Drai and McDavid in the playoffs. It's just what had to be done, and it will be exciting to watch it play out, I know that Edmonton trust McD and Drai to give us the best hockey we've ever seen

[@jlalonde1000]

Bad contract he wouldn't be even close to as good without conner and now he get more then his better teammate good luck when conner wants to get paid

[@willsk7068]

Marner, Mathiews and Nylander will never win, they got paid for losing in playoffs and selling jerseys, i doubt McKinnon will ever see another one after his cap percent. Maybe Leon and McDavid breaks that I donno... but I am doubting this too. Doughty got paid big and they never won again. Only one I can think of being worth 10 mill plus was Eichel that won a cup.

[@edited1325]

Curses don’t exist

[@GOCAPSDMV]

Ask the browns 💀💀💀

[@aarongriffin4901]

​@@GOCAPSDMV you had the leafs playoff curse and you used the browns? Leafs have never made a round 3 of the playoffs. That's worse

[@GOCAPSDMV]

@@aarongriffin4901 the browns haven’t won their division… ever! They haven’t won their conference since the sixties!!! They also haven’t won a conference game since the 60s. Missed the playoffs 17 years straight. I think the unluckier team/cursed team is clear. I think it’s clear you don’t follow the nfl.

[@Musicmelo14]

@@aarongriffin4901ok u might be stupid… ur saying the leafs have never made it past the 3rd round…

[@davidburke2697]

curse

[@Abbittibbi]

Nobody see the obvious? 60 000/year is the annual income on average for the USA... Canada is about the same, but in CNA $ 14 million to push a puck, how about the people who put food on our tables?

[@DhruvVijapurapu]

Moose better than Mack????

[@HecticHockey]

Paid more

[@DhruvVijapurapu]

@@HecticHockey oh

[@reignofrock]

Change ya thumbnail. Don't add up. Guy was a bargain for what 6 seasons?

[@Musicmelo14]

Cap

[@tob564]

Lol Draisaitl is not the second best player at the moment. I would take at least MacKinnon, Barkov or even Kucherov over him.

[@hollerjei]

You’re not making any sense when you said their top two will almost be at 50% when McDavid signs his contract. Why would he even do that when he knows he needs a team around both of them??? You’re delusional to say the least. Bad take.

[@HecticHockey]

If McDavid makes anything more than 16M (which he will) him and Drai are going to be close to 40% of the cap.

[@mvpgaming-kramberrymark99]

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