The dark side of psychedelics - What you NEED to know, and how to prevent bad trips

[@sneferuzefayawachuma]

Edit to add: hi everyone I’m Rachel by the way! 🌸 I’d like to modify one thing I said... I don’t think i should have said with conviction that my dose was “too much”, perhaps it was exactly the right dose. Blaming the dose is disempowering myself, I signed up for this, i knew deep down I’d never resolved my issues. I think some part of me thought i could firewall that one from aya? Just like I’d firewalled it from my own consciousness... thank you for all the mentions, I will reply to your comments individually when I get time between my integration 😉

[@sneferuzefayawachuma]

I speak of more details in thes video kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6aaoHptYrmsirs

[@thebrightsideofthemoon5829]

I also had a very dark disturbing trip and after was having these bad dreams and started to hallucinate weeks after. I was never religious until my last demonic trip but I started to believe that if there is evil then there is good so I started to believe in God and pray for protection from the darkness and I am glad to say my dreamstate has improved and my hallucinations have stopped. Don’t be close minded to much in believing there is no God. I hope you get through this and good luck

[@sneferuzefayawachuma]

The bright side of the moon thank you for sharing. I’m much more open minded about god since I started working with psychs too. Good luck with your integration 🌸

[@therealjulez7886]

@@thebrightsideofthemoon5829 yes my friend, I also started having what is called HPPD after doing mushrooms too often and would see visuals and feel anxiety long after the drug has worn off i've been closer to God ever since and pray for healing and protection.

[@thebrightsideofthemoon5829]

L0st Frequency , some of us aren’t as easily fooled by the darkness and can see it for what it really is, there is a spiritual battle taking place. What these entities get out of taking people to these realms and telling them things is mind boggling. Iv been through crazy experiences with DMT and Ketamine and have physically been attacked while being paralysed. Been shown things which I would never have known and for them to come true. Friends been giving messages to give to me while on DMT. Iv never been religious before but after my ordeals I am praying to God for him to protect me and my family from evil. What does HPPD stand for?

[@steveganz7418]

Great video. Massive respect to your wife for being brave and talking about her experience.

[@sneferuzefayawachuma]

Thank you 🙏🏽

[@sedawktube]

A great source of truth and honesty for a community that really needs it. Bravo!

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Cheers Andrew

[@kiwi_wolf2805]

In my experience trips can also show a lot of stuff from your subconciouss that you're not actively aware of. You might expect to face some real-life problems but it might also turn out to be a mondter from your childhood or stuff from the primal subconciouss that's embedded in all of us. There are also the trips where I feel like it just wants to shock you to build up resilience and show you what your mind is capable of.

[@keobaker4232]

Idk man its wierd last night i tripped and the arm computer we have at work started saying we want you to leave, and i was having flashbacks that never happened, of shelves in the warehouse falling on me maybe i should get another job. Agreed there is definitely something going on with the subconscious

[@bigd1ccn1ccwiddaSwitch]

One trip i almost bit my lips off but it was Just trying to show me i had ultimate control and willpower over myself

[@SuperFetaCheese]

The "relapse" is too accurate. I used to have intense OCD as a little kid, that went away gradually. During one trip it came back full force, exactly the way it used to feel. Thankfully I was more amused by this than frightened ("oh hey! I remember this feeling.") but for disabilities that are even more negative I'd definitely watch out.

[@sneferuzefayawachuma]

Tiki Omzee thanks for sharing 🙏🏽 good luck with your integration 🌸

[@palbo4]

Amazing video, thanks for making this! I've had a couple really dark, bizarre, sad and angry mushroom trips this year, the last just a couple days ago, and I've been having a hard time processing them. You articulate some possible reasons for these experiences so, so well. When psychedelics get dark they can get REALLY dark. This is why psychedelic therapy should be much more accessible and legal, people would be able to have a lot more healing experiences than traumatizing ones if they were able to take these things with professional guidance

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Glad you found it helpful 🙏

[@zublits]

Its so refreshing to have someone with a rational mind discuss these things.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Thank you :)

[@cosmicrevolution1372]

Thank you for speaking to this I. I'm bringing myself back slowly from destabilization, it's so important to raise awareness of this darker side of psychedelics, with everyone wanting to have their experience and psychedelics become more mainstream, you just don't know when it could be your turn to travel that dark road. And this shit is hard. Not for the faint of heart. Rachel - sending you all the strength and nourishment for your integration journey. We got this xx

[@lindseycrittendon7883]

I looked at shrooms as a party drug. I took them a couple of times, had a few laughs, enjoyed the blurred lines... then the last time I did them, the only way I can describe it is the veil being lifted. The first thing I saw once I was able to somewhat orient myself in all the geometry was a city with a giant guard towering over it. He swung a sword at me but missed as I was transported in this city. It was all too clear that I was going deep into my mind, and I just confronted a guard I made to keep myself out...and the trip was forcing me to face it. While tremendously helpful and meaningful in the long run, the experiences I had after passing the guard were not for the faint of heart.

[@KamiTVe]

Planning to watch this after I finish work today, but I watched the first minute or two and I'm already hooked. I'm glad you made sure to say that bad trips aren't necessarily bad, and sometimes people need to go through them. I like to think that there aren't necessarily bad trips, but more "Challenging" trips.

[@TravelBreakthrough]

What’s crazy about me is I’m fairly intelligent and I crave good feelings and reject pain, so when I have childhood trauma I used to lock it away inside of me where I can’t feel it.. I realized it’s all still there .. hidden.. locked away in a box all the pain I went though and it’s almost like the shrooms in a semi creepy but beautiful way took a cattle prood and awoke my hurt and saw myself as a child being hurt and it made me cry I saw the scenes before my very eyes and I was like it’s ok mikie you’ll get through it. Then the inner voice was like you could take the cattle prod you’ll get through it and I knew what they meant if it makes sense

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I’m exactly the same Mike, and I used to pride myself on how well I could lock all that stuff away. I thought doing that made me stronger. Well... then it all built up and I quickly realized that I had a mountain of shit I had to deal with 🤯

[@joecrowe7062]

Thank you both for talking about this growing up a few times i had to leave my family and go into foster homes with my sister.we were young to had no idea what was going on.looks like at some point im going to have to look at that how do you fix that?

[@theironstove]

@@joecrowe7062 Maybe it's for you to figure out on your own terms, in your own way, with or without psychedelics.

[@MrGold-lo6vc]

That is completely standard, and should be expected if you're doing any real psychedelic trips.

[@rudy8409]

as someone who went a bit crazy with these substances and didnt respect them when i first got into them, i apprieciate you providing a balanced view. if we are going to open pandoras box we need to be prepared for what may come from the depths. if you are not ready then it can seriously shock the user. there is so much about reality that we are not aware of and bringing a little bit into awareness can bring a positive change in your scope of the world but can also raise some deep existential questions. peace and love and happy tripping.

[@williamzapata5475]

Hey! Can you please describe that descent to madness. I'm really concerned about this aspect of psychedelics.

[@anderspettersson2179]

This is probably the best and most inspiring I’ve seen and listen to when it comes to the topic! Huge amount of respect for your wife and her most openhearted story! It hit me and moved me profoundly. ❤️

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Thanks Anders, I will pass your comment on to her 🙏

[@TheCowpoke406]

By far the best informative psychedelic channel I've found.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Thanks mate, thats very kind of you to say 🙏

[@delonoliver8920]

1 of da best vids I've seen on KZbin period.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Wow, thanks man!

[@TravelBreakthrough]

Amazing. Gave me chills on my arms cuz I had to go through it recently on mushrooms. And it was for my benefit, when you work out you feel pain. That’s is the nature of the way things are. Horrible inner demons saying nothing matters to fly off a bridge.. that experience isn’t for everyone i could handle it, but some people can’t so psychedelics isn’t a cure for everyone. It’s like a doc that writes a prescription you have to take the right medicine. For me mushrooms has changed my life for the better and feel such joy thinking about it.

[@ribbtmcabe8459]

It's so important to know why you are going and to know Aya is going to go deep. So far I've gotten exactly what I've asked for, and it was monumental to have that written down to refer to. Because I'd ask, why did she put me through xyz (hell)? And then it was right there in my intentions. So instead of feeling victimized I felt empowered, listened to, and loved. You're also right about the hardest part being the daily life after. It's like you can make a big breakthrough in the ceremony, but then in ordinary reality, you may feel the same way you always did in the face of that particular conflict, and that little medicine voice will be saying, if you can hear it: so, are you going to respond to this the same way you always have or are you going to actually enact what I showed you? So there is no magic bullet. You still have to do work and soul-searching and feel agony in working past blocks to make progress. But you have just that much more awareness.

[@phoenixreborn21]

Such an important point you make - "outside fears of the unknown" can blow up to gigantic invisible things. Better to face your inner stuff, work through that and resolve it..

[@angelvillalta8561]

Thank you. Sending love to everyone on their journeys.

[@remmy29]

I had a serious break from Ayahuasca. It took me 2 years to stabilize. I'm still fragile even 5 years later. Note: I never was on psychiatric meds prior. This is serious stuff. Having this happen has put me in touch with many others that this has happened to. I walk around like I have mild cognitive decline and I'm only 40.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Yup its serious stuff. I hope you get better

[@remmy29]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica slowly and it's been a very long process. It took finding out the blueprint to healing that would work for me..

[@kuro.editzzz]

this was my initial feeling when doing my first big shroom trip. i wanted to turn it off. but even though my eyes were closes/ heck even open. all i saw was that world. and it didnt want to end. i kept falling and my soul felt it was being ripped out. i couldnt even should or breath but i dont regret it. it has helped me in my life. and things like this is needed.

[@rileysimmons6572]

Rachel’s experience sounds somewhat like one I’m working through now. You give me hope.

[@degitz]

Nice going Rachel! Must've been tough talking about this.

[@sneferuzefayawachuma]

It is, thanks for your support 🌸

[@coolmanice8211]

Thank you for this video and awareness before anyone goes true these road 🙏🙏👍👍

[@joecrowe7062]

Thank you Rachel for sharing very helpful my wife and her sister went though that its hard for women in this world.it sounds like you got PTSD from the title wave you took on.i did not know this thank you so much for sharing.last week my friend smoked DMT that i made and it blow him away he cried after joy he said he died in a good way and they told him to walk barefoot in nature more.hes a tuff guy so to see him become a teddybear was amazing.because of your video i know to check on him for awhile so thank u once again.godspeed my friends

[@sneferuzefayawachuma]

joe crowe thank you and best wishes for your wife and sister 🌸

[@jjk8625]

Thank you very much for the information that you are providing to the psychedelic community. You speak respectfully and intelligently about your experiences and I value the road maps that you are providing. Both you and your lovely wife are a pleasure to watch and I wish you the best on your continued explorations and hope that you can continue sharing your experiences. I think you are establishing yourselves as some of the new guiding lights in this field.

[@edoardodardi57]

So Precise,so clear,so important!Thank you!🙏

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Glad you think so!

[@therealjulez7886]

The long dark night of the soul... i'm so glad I watched this video bc I literally thought I was loosing my mind a bit. U hit the nail on the head where u described it happening weeks or months after a trip. let me explain my situation, I took mushrooms 5 times within a month or so (yes very foolish for not spacing trips). Well my last trip I never really came back down I suffered flashbacks from the trip and would see things breathing with heavy anxiety this all went away after 3 months ... so I decided to take another small trip (BAD IDEA). Everything went fine but by a month or so later I would get these panic attacks and feeling of impending doom hanging over me and I thought I was going nutz, its been 2 months since my last dose and the negative feelings are still there but not as bad as before. I really need to hear this explanation i'm glad I stumbled upon your video. I feel i'm almost outta the woods but not quite yet. any tips on healing faster? would be appreciated - Thank you.

[@sneferuzefayawachuma]

Hi L0st Frequency, pay attention to this and don’t ignore. Before my full on break happened I was having plenty of signs, just as HPPD and flashbacks, but had written them off as something that would gradually improve. In retrospect they were trying to tell me to explore them and work on integration sooner. Take time to meditate, dance or spend time in nature, and journal your thoughts either in a book or a video diary. Do hold off on more psychedelics until you feel you have integrated and can feel your feet on the ground. Talk to someone about it. Finally, if you feel like you’re really losing your shit, seek professional help. You’re not alone, and you’re stronger than you think. Keep moving forward, very best wishes 🌸

[@therealjulez7886]

@@sneferuzefayawachuma Thank u so much for ur response I hold it close to me as words of wisdom. I won't be using any psychedelics for a year or more until I feel my feet are firmly on the ground. I had no clue the importance of integration and thought u could just blindly trip again like cannabis. I hope ur feeling better after ur experience. take care

[@sneferuzefayawachuma]

L0st Frequency thank you I am already feeling better though I still have some way to go. I’ll be asking Rob to either interview me again as a follow up to this or be a guest on the livestream, after I’m fully out of the woods, hopefully to help others who experienced severe destabilization after using psychedelics know that there is a light at the end. You take care too 🌸

[@therealjulez7886]

u both make such a powerful couple really appreciate u guys and the videos you do. looking forward to the video touching base on this as it will give me some insight of hope.

[@jaktonge6632]

Big shout out to your wife for laying that down for everyone.

[@sneferuzefayawachuma]

Thank you 🙏🏽 best wishes 🌸

[@VibratingColor]

this man isn't playing it is intense

[@darrylteichroeb9132]

Loved this video. Am hoping my significant other can start putting effort and research into her experimentation. We've stopped doing psychedelics together as I feel I am propping her up, and grounding her while we dose and it isn't helpful for her. I feel she needs to stand alone and take responsibility for her actions.

[@emin4704]

I always tell myself that anything can happen and nothing is off-limits on a mushroom trip lol, it has helped me steer almost challenging trips into a more positive one again

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

So true!

[@jamessclar]

Wonderful information! Thank you 🙏🏼❤️🤙🏼

[@levibieber9838]

You know what man, I really like watching you. You're a peaceful spirit. Maybe that's just my psychedelic past talking. 😂

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Thanks Levi, I appreciate the support mate

[@cooperwilliams4686]

As usual... Such a good explanation. I've always used the terms light trip and dark trip. I have found I can flip from light to dark and back by changing my thoughts and music seems to dramatically change the mood of my journeys.

[@lisaa6099]

Thanks to your lovely wife for authentically recounting her experience. And as usual thanks to you.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Thanks Lisa ! 🙏

[@truggy7858]

great to show all angles of approach, nicely done!

[@truggy7858]

I also hope your wife is very careful with the benzodiazepines. They are a slowly constricting and very venomous snake. Take caution dear friends.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Thanks Truggy, and yes a snake is a very appropriate description for benzos, luckily she is almost tapered off them

[@truggy7858]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica great to hear

[@denzali]

Hope the missus is all good. Benzo withdrawal is the single most disturbing thing I’ve gone through so please tread gently.

[@sneferuzefayawachuma]

Thank you yes it’s super challenging! Treading gently is the only way. Well done for getting through that. Best wishes 🌸

[@tylerkadle2833]

@@sneferuzefayawachuma I’m actually going to rehab for benzo withdrawal tomorrow morning ….. extremely terrified but need to go through with it

[@sneferuzefayawachuma]

@@tylerkadle2833 good luck mate. In rehab they taper p rapid so it will feel rough but remember you’re in a safe place with professionals and they can monitor anything serious. There’s nothing they can do for anxiety other than sedatives or more benzos so you might feel like you’re white knuckling it but remember anxiety can’t kill you and once it’s over you’ll be free. Also helps to remember that you might not necessarily experience the worst, there’s a lot of horror stories online but someone with an easy withdrawal is less likely to come online and share their story so there’s a bias in terms of experience reports. Some people get through it quite easily. You may or may not be one of those people but it helps to have a positive mindset, so you can avoid the potential of unpleasant nocebo effect. Best wishes

[@andrejtrbojevic7559]

You're both beautiful human beings and I commend you for bravely and maturely sharing your darkest experiences. I resist big picture narratives but what else can a human do except dissolve some of these intergenerational demons that keep humans mired in dysfunction? It's like we're being called to do the work, to do better individually and collectively. Meditation can be deeply grounding and an easy way to take time out from being in the midst of it, as well as body based activities. It's important to remind ourselves that, unfortunately, that's what healing looks like, allowing yourself to be a wreck for a bit, and holding space for it, honouring it. It fucking sucks though. Wishing you both the very best.

[@Timesend]

Good job at describing the integration period, most people seem to just say the phase integration period without actually describing it

[@FiftyPlusBeauty]

Hi Rachel. Thank you so much for sharing your experience and I hope you’re doing better now. If you could respond and let me know how you are doing I would really appreciate it. I certainly hope you are doing well now and I send you much healing energy. 💝🎉🎂☕️🎄💝🎉

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I’ll pass this on to Rach, but she is doing really well with her recovery and she has another video detailing more of her journey - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIm1iqSrnKmejs0 I’m very proud of her for the progress she has made 🥰

[@sneferuzefayawachuma]

Hi @FiftyPlusBeauty thank you so much for the healing energy! I am doing so much better now. Since that video I have gained over 8 kilos and am now at the minimum weight target my doctor agreed I can come off the benzos so I’ll be discussing a taper plan with him soon. Mentally, I’m much more stable and feel much better. I’ve made some lifestyle changes that have helped a LOT, such as cutting out alcohol; I’ve been working with San Pedro and had a couple of mushroom ceremonies and I’ve done some very intensive therapy which I’m ready to be discharged from soon. It got worse before it got better but I hung on tight and faith no matter how dim the glimmer goes a long way. I’m also blessed to have a really great support structure. Best wishes 🌺

[@blunzn999]

My Boyfriend and I have been on a lot of trips by now, but there was one instance where we had tripped in public and when we had come home, he told me that he had just had a bad trip - I hadn't even noticed. He described this intense feeling of panic and just something not being right, but him not wanting to scare or worry me, he kept it hidden. He's someone who's done a pretty unhealthy amount of psychedelics (or drugs in general) and literally can't tell me how many times he's tripped, bc it's just been too many. But anyway, while he said that that experience was horrifying (and his first bad trip ever) he also said he was glad for it, because it gave him back the respect he had lost for lsd throughout his excessive use. He hadn't really regarded it as an actual drug but a plaything, and I'm honestly really glad as well, because he was (his words) 'literally frying his brain' by how much he was doing and how lightly he took it.

[@RealDavidJohn]

Another important video. Thanks so much for making these

[@roboCL0WN]

Wow very interesting, thank you to Rachel at the end for sharing her experience.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

This video turned out a little bit more somber than what I intended, but given the nature of the subject matter then its seemed appropriate. If anyone has any questions about any of my personal experiences, or if you want to share some of your own then feel free to do so in the comments.

[@vica7524]

I loved the video. People should talk about integration the way you've done. Few month ago it would have helped me a lot. After my January retreat, I thought I'm fine, but it hit me in the lockdown. In one of my ceremonies my life was taken away from me and I thought Im having a not too pleasant after life experience. Few month later I started to have anxiety attack, I started to be afraid of death, I thought Im going crazy, constantly thinking about what life is, what reality is etc. I read a lot, listened podcasts, tried to ground myself. I am sure that there I things I need to go through in order to heal. My depression went away, Im more grateful of life and Im feeling good now. Didn't go nuts :) But I'm still working through this fear of death issue. Im curious about what helped you and how Rachel is doing. Is she planning another retreat? I am planning one next year, but Im a bit afraid if things will go worse even though I feel that I need that to finish things up .

[@sneferuzefayawachuma]

Vica glad to hear you are working through your integration. After the retreat I referred to in the video, I went back to Peru 15 months later for another ayahuasca retreat. I was full of dread about it but I felt it was all I could do to be „sewn back up“. I explained everything to the shaman and he gave me a half dose. It was a strong trip but a positive one and showed me how much strength I have, and reminded me that i was going to need it. After that I felt that it was time for me to „hang up the phone“ with ayahuasca for the foreseeable, but I worked with San Pedro a couple times after that. San Pedro has been much easier on me and has helped to ground me. It’s a year now since my last San Pedro ceremony and for the last 10 months I’ve been working on my integration in jungian analysis. I’m making progress but it’s still hard.

[@vica7524]

@@sneferuzefayawachuma Thank you Rachel. I am hoping similar experience as you had. I know that ayahuasca listens and I'm trying to trust the process. :) Actually I already payed a deposit for a retreat for next Spring with Wiler in Spain where there will be opportunity to have one San Pedro ceremony. I am tempted to try it, good to know that you had good experience with it. Good luck for you with your healing 🤗😘

[@sneferuzefayawachuma]

Vica thank you. Wiler is a good shaman. Trust yourself. Don’t be a hero. San Pedro is easier, if you go easy 😉 tread carefully. Good luck 🌸

[@guyeshel9316]

This upload is fucking brilliant. It actually made me think twice about doing DMT about some of the "demons" I'm afraid to be encountered with. Thx

[@BXLLETBEATS]

The biggest lesson u learn in the trip itself, helps you after in your day to day life, and that lesson is letting go

[@crono3339]

My first Salvia experience was unbelievably more potent than I expected. I feel like I had a form of ptsd afterwards but I definitely don't regret it. I said I'd never do it again in the days following but I realized the nature of the experience was worth exploring again and I did several times. But I had hppd at work seeing shadow people, similar to the shadow people I had witnessed inside the fractals of the experience. But I got over it and moved on. But I would NOT recommend that to almost anyone unless their mental stability was pretty decent. I don't bring people into the sacred space I have for journeys unless I think they can handle it without becoming unhinged afterwards. My friends and I are veterans and we realized we needed help, the sacred medicines have been a tremendous boon on our lives but not easy man, not at all.

[@MrGold-lo6vc]

Salvia is notorious for causing traumatising experiences. It is not something I'd recommend to anybody except the morbidly curious. It isn't a psychedelic in the same sense as psilocin, n-n-DMT, LSD-25 are. It's much more dysphoric and confusing.

[@AmanitaDreamer]

"This is the work, this is what you signed up for". So so true. I took European Amanitas several months ago and I am still not sleeping and could easily feel tortured but I see progress and only now am starting to understand why and what is happening and what I am dealing with and what it had to do with my lifetime of panic attacks. I think I'll make another video addressing this and referencing your video here. This is really valuable information. Thanks for your candor and straight forward manner.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Do you think its something specific to the European amanitas that has a different feel to the US ones? I found a supplier here in Europe (havent ordered yet) and would be interested to know your take on the different character of the experiences.

[@AmanitaDreamer]

Adeptus Psychonautica So far it seems the American ones are more about joy and relief but I’ve only done the European ones that one time. So it could be coincidence.

[@sneferuzefayawachuma]

Amanita Dreamer I subbed your channel since your conversation on this one, enjoyed all the videos I’ve watched so far (especially love the treats at the end! 😻) they’ve helped me a lot thank you 🙏🏽 I wish you all the best with your integration 🌸

[@sujak]

I truly appreciate your no B.S. approach to this. Keep up with the awesome videos!

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Thanks mate!

[@drillab8515]

Holy shit I never looked at it this way it's me and what I bring to the trip holy crap that makes so much sense very thought intriguing topic thanks for the vid ❤

[@porkypig7850]

9 mins when you describe feelings but etc etc I get that most times of the day without taking shrooms. I feel like intense emotions most days. But Iam allowing of it and accepting of it. Even though it feels like Iam dying inside. It's fucking scary. I swear Iam going vanish out if existence most days. It's like a break down of self. Or feeling crazy. I just been in a state of acceptance and trying not to burden my self to much with anything. If I feel it all coming on strong I avoid any thing ego related and try to just relax and not take anything serious

[@williamzapata5475]

Bro I'm going through that, is very scary to be honest

[@Sidekick_2010]

@@williamzapata5475 hows it going bro

[@Peace.Love.Psychedelics]

Great video 🌈👍. Thanks for the honesty.

[@aprilkite_]

Thank you so much for your thoughtful and honest analysis. 💗

[@ankhanhvu2614]

I needed this my man. Namaste 🙏

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Glad it helped

[@davidwalker8678]

its really resposible, down to earth and real what you put out there in this video, in addition it is pretty heroic of your wife/misses to discuss what she went through. It is my opinion that in general it gets put out there that its all fluffy clouds and angels out there when you take psychedelics! Having taken them many times this is a total misrepresentation of them and recently ive seen more people making videos about how dmt and such substances have caused mental dmg to them which is no doubt down to them going in with the wrong expectations based on much of the materials out there. I have had some harrowing experiences with many forms of lsd like compounds and I am using a fair bit of dmt at the momment but I always do very low doses whereas the current main information is KEEP TAKING more until you hit a breakthrough and im not sure how responsible that is when there is potential for serious mental dmg as well as positives.

[@davidwalker8678]

btw to your wife best of luck with comming of the benzos I have done it; it is possible but it takes a loooong time, all I can say is "do it slowly", i didnt and i took seizures and nearly died, best of luck.

[@davidwalker8678]

I liked the video where yourself and rachel did the DMT, My wife and I do it together as well :D

[@fullmoon1072]

Oh man, I definitely had a dark night of the soul exactly one month after my trip… didn’t know wtf that was!

[@Artofmike]

brilliant dude! this is so on point

[@PsyMike3d]

Thank you! Your channel is amazing, you are amazing 🙏😁

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Thank you too!

[@brotherfromanother1971]

19:21 Is by far one of the best explanations/framing I have heard for this type of work with these medicines, well done brother! 🙌🏿 And take care people, please be safe!

[@alienrabbitpublishing]

I've tripped on shrooms a few times and salvia a few years ago. Never really had a negative experiencw until last year when I had what I would call a nehative trip. It wasn't that bad really more like a sort of death / rebirth experience than a dark one. Still it felt profound and I feel like I got some lessons which I'm still processing. My time with pyschedlics is done (I have bipolar so I can't mess with my mind further now and in terms of functioning in the world its got a little worse past few months). I tend to just intergrate the experiences through creativity, I need to look further into meditation as a way of accessing my subcouncious more I think. Good video with good objective information. Subbed to the channel.

[@prophetposse8946]

I loved the "Long dark night of the soul "part !

[@501Labsmusic]

I appreciate you man. Happy adventuring ✌🏽☮

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Thanks mate - you too 🙏

[@foobar123-f2y]

More than two thumbs up. Great vid

[@foobar123-f2y]

I found Stan Grof's ideas very helpful for integration. Particularly the idea of reliving birth trauma (or possibly even transpersonal trauma) made a lot of sense.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I need to read more of Grofs work. One of my friends (Mackenzie the psychoanalyst I spoke to in a previous video) is a huge fan of his, and she has convinced me I should devote some time to his stuff.

[@foobar123-f2y]

The Holotropic Mind gives a good overview of his thought. Also, any talk the man gives on YT is gold. A true psychedelic grandfather.

[@cr-nd8qh]

Tjis is a reminder to myself that mushrooms are extremely potent

[@polas365]

Good video, its always good to be prepared. Thank you.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Always!

[@MintyLoveDMT]

Once again, many thanks to you and max respect to Rachael for sharing her words, I can only imagine the disappointment when it became accepted that ayahuasca was failing to maintain a lasting impact on her issues. As we're all agreed, psych can show you much, but part of which might sometimes be a clear realisation of just how complicated & deep rooted problems can be. I really don't know what the solution is. If anyone finds out, please let me know.

[@sneferuzefayawachuma]

Minty Love thank you, yes it’s somewhat disappointing that ayahuasca is no magic bullet, but thank the medicine for illuminating to me why I’d REALLY had the calling... and accept that it’s not down to ayahuasca to maintain the impact, it’s down to me. That’s what integration is all about, I admit though very often I wish I’d taken that blue pill 😉 there’s no going back though the only way is forward now and the only way through it is to keep working hard at the integration. It’s fucking exhausting man 😅 thank you for your kind words 🙏🏽 best wishes! 🌸

[@MintyLoveDMT]

@@sneferuzefayawachuma Yes very tough and very exhausting! All my life I've been putting a brave face on a myriad of excruciating mental issues picked up from a traumatic childhood. I used daily alcohol to get me through my career as a software engineer but it wasn't a good solution. After I quit my job I returned to psychs in the hope that they could help solve some of the issues. Yes, shrooms definitely helped me quit alcohol and DMT has shown me what pure love is and an aiming point of how we should treat others in our lives, plus I'm no longer feeling suicidal on a daily basis. But I'm still going through hell from pretty much all of the old issues. Psychs have been disappointing in this respect. I truly hope things are different for you - I'm certain that you have literally thousands of folks out here in cyberspace who are truly empathetic to your issues and sending you their very best wishes for a sustained recovery.

[@sneferuzefayawachuma]

Minty Love thank you, much luck to you too! Keep going, you’re stronger than you think. Consider help if you feel overwhelmed on your own. I started jungian analysis and it’s close to psychedelic work except you develop an intimate relationship with a human instead of a plant. I find it complements and parallels with the medicines quite well. It can be just as intense though 😉 best wishes 🌸

[@dmttruth9060]

Great video. Top man Rob 👍

[@barzinlotfabadi]

Okay this is really interesting, when you talk about integrating those uncomfortable feelings and putting yourself back together - - because that psychic state itself may be informed by a physical depletion; it might actually feel a lot less harder if you're energized with nutrition or sleep, or otherwise stimulated in some way like a mindset shift (humour me here but psychiatrists make the artificial version of that with the psychostimulants). My point is, have we tried entertaining this question that *what if* that difficulty of integration we feel is actually a consequence of not having the right rituals placed in after taking a psychedelic like Ayahuasca? If you can time it down to 3-4 days to a week after completing the ceremony, couldn't you also then create a week-long ritual to initiate yourself into the kind of preparation you need not to feel so burdened by all the revelations the Ayahuasca ceremony would bring to you?

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Yes I think some kind of program or routine post retreat would be useful. The problem though is most people come back with an afterglow, and assume they are “cured” of whatever ailed them. Maybe several months go past before they realise things are getting on top of them and a lot of bad habits gave crept back in - and thats because they didn’t actually integrate the experience. So yeah I agree that some structure there would be helpful

[@DreamingJaguars]

Amazing video sir and great advice you are way more thorough than we are on our channel😂 much respect to you and your lovely wife x

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Thanks mate! I really like the camerawork and production values in your stuff - I struggle just getting the camera to focus 😄

[@DreamingJaguars]

😂😂😂 I do it for a living so I have a head start!!! Maybe we could do something together in the future???

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

That would be cool but alas I don’t live in the UK anymore so it would have to be something over a remote session. But yeah, if you wanna chew the fat sometime then drop me an email. My address is in the about section on my channel 😀

[@DreamingJaguars]

Adeptus Psychonautica superb we can definitely do that👍👍

[@BobSmith-us1tx]

HPPD, hallucinogen persistent perception disorder is the diagnosis, benzos kind of work for the anxiety but can be addictive, talk to a counselor Who is familiar with this diagnosis, someone who is a psychonaut themselves.

[@sieberozendal1627]

Great open and rational coverage, and I love the 3 categories. Personally, I'm most familiar with the 'Long Dark Night of the Soul'. I had a laugh at the dramatic name, but it felt accurate nonetheless! @Rachel, wishing you all the best! One question I have is what makes you so sure the relapse is caused by the ayahausca retreat. 8 months later is a long time and there might be other reasons for it coming up?

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I'm sure she will reply in person once she spots this question, but in the meantime - realistically the relapse happened straight away and was in effect as soon as we got back from the retreat. The weight loss was already taking place but we attributed a lot of it to "jungle diet", if we even noticed it at all. The 6-8 months is just when we realised that this was a problem, and although this sounds like an unfeasibly long time, you often don't notice these things when you are "in it". As with most conditions they don't happen overnight and so it took a while for us to realise and acknowledge the depth of the problem. In terms of the hallucinations and voices that she was experiencing then this pretty much started straight away, and persisted for many months, so I think the correlation between the aya and her deteriorating mental state is there.

[@sieberozendal1627]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica Alright, that makes a lot more sense. Thanks for the explanation!

[@sneferuzefayawachuma]

@Siebe Rozendal well I can’t be 100% sure, but the evidence points to that. There was more to my story about the two trips; on the second one I was visited by an apparition of ayahuasca and she specifically told me that she would help me with this, but that I wasn’t ready. I cried my heart out, and struggled with physical discomfort and profoundly deep tripping for a while after that. It was only with hindsight that it became more obvious. This relapse has been like no other, I’ve had this illness for 25 years and never before have I hated it so much, truly wanted to get better, and felt so dominated by it. I feel it was necessary to show me that it’s not my friend, nor something I can control. Also that it’s something that can legit kill me. I wouldn’t have taken it seriously unless I’d had to live through this, never in a million years. Tough love. It’s the only way. I’m glad it happened this way though bc if I hadn’t addressed it it would have taken me eventually anyway. I’ve seen it happen to loved ones and it’s insidious and heartbreaking. I thank aya for the insight, but even with my wonderful privileges of love and support network and great doctors I’m still treading water sometimes. I would never flippantly recommend anyone with such a severe mental illness to just go drink aya. Not without warning them of the caveats described in this video. Edit to add: its actually 2 years now and counting! The realization happened 6-8 months after.

[@sneferuzefayawachuma]

Also yes like @adeptus psychonautica said, I was having visual and auditory disturbances prior to the realization; I really ought to have paid more close attention to those! They were a warning sign, isn’t hindsight a wonderful thing 😏

[@sieberozendal1627]

@@sneferuzefayawachuma oof, that sounds tough. Thanks for the elaboration. Wishing you lots of strength and mindfulness to overcome it.

[@501Labsmusic]

Hey. This isn't directly related to your video, but I wanted to comment on a newer video in Hopes you'd have a better chance at seeing it. I was watching a video you did on the centers in Peru for medicine. Im not sure if you've covered peyote (you should), but I was wondering if you had any info about peyote ceremonies in the United States. I know its legal for ceremonial use by native Americans, but I dont know much else and aside from personal research I'd like your insight if possible. I do believe you're a trusted and genuine source and I don't want to invest my time and money into some half done money grab.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I haven’t done any specific videos yet regarding my mescaline experiences, just because I havent gotten around to it yet. My experiences were not with peyote but with San Pedro when I was in Cusco Peru, so I don’t have any knowledge of native American churches. I have seen some documentaries about people attending those churches and it looked legit. At some point I will get around to doing a video on my mescaline experiences, but to summarize I enjoyed them a lot and think it is a very useful medicine. My wife really likes it, much more than ayahuasca.

[@whiskeylinux]

Great work!!

[@sage1682]

I ate 7 grams, actually thought i was dying. Considered calling the hospital and or telling my family I was dying. I puked, light in my bathroom got brighter. Felt haunted like something ominous was paying special attention to me because i was in a vulnerable state. Then I felt like the cops knew what i was doing and thinking and were moving in on me. Didnt gelp when my phone started bugging out, not letting me click in stuff. Nearly snapped my phone in half out of paranoia

[@robertkay203]

This should be a public information film and shown to teenagers

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Thanks mate - most appreciated 🙏

[@MI-gn9lg]

Excellent video, thank you.

[@perhagman6112]

I am stuck in a loop of fear after experimenting with psilocybin. I see no way out of it. Have tried many things but it doesn't end. I feel like I need somebody close by 24/7 to help me through which isn't going to happen. It's a nightmare and no waking up.

[@martinparidon9056]

Very good and important work.

[@doggenes9347]

Great video on how to structure some of these experiences without making it too convoluted keeping the unreal realistic

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Tocinos]

I never went psychotic from mushrooms, but I did from THC dab pens. thought aliens were sending me messages

[@laxpwnage1]

@@dannnyc93 pi

[@gott3n493]

I’m not really sure if that was a dab pen, sir.

[@Tocinos]

@@gott3n493 ye man THC can change your dreams in bizarre ways

[@simmikishore6905]

thank you for your honesty

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

My pleasure!

[@Phil-jn1hb]

"It's a long road and I'm not sure it has an end" yeah I feel that too much🤣 bless your soul I use anology to help me. Imagine you're pushing a boulder up a hill and you've got stuck underneath it. A bad trip may show you that your stuck underneath the rock, it may even get you out from underneath, however you still have to persist and get the boulder up the hill. When you're pushing a boulder up a hill however, you can't see the how far you have to push; the boulder obstructs your view. Just know every hill has a summit and if you keep walking you'll reach it. When you get there, you'll feel free as you push the boulder down the other side. Then you'll look backward at the hill you've climbed and you'll look forward and see mountain after mountain, but you'll know the journey ahead is worth it, so you walk on. :) I find it useful to think in anology. See the world in your mind and your mind as the world.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Thats a good one mate, very relatable 🙏

[@thiagosimoes95]

Thank you for this video. Love

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Thanks, glad you liked it 🙏

[@phoenixreborn21]

Rachel saying about getting "shellshocked" - seems only understandable that afterwards you have to go through major recalibrating yourself... Wow I can't imagine, because, then you are stuck innit and can only endure, until it fades off😱 Just reminds me of .. Don't know if you are familiar with Dr. Robert Scaer and his take on "FREEZE" response, and how we humans neglect to "shake the trauma and stress" out of our systems, the way animals do, so then the stress remains "stuck in our bodies" - which then results in issues...

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Yeah that idea of locked trauma feels correct to me, and its one of the reasons why I think something like ayahuasca is so therapeutic, because it forces you into this kind of uncontrollable expulsion through the purge, which is similar to an animal "shaking it off". Its a completely feral experience which is kind of what we need, because you can't rationalize your way out of these kind of deep locked traumas, you need something to force it out of you.

[@phoenixreborn21]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica ahhh - just had a lightbulb aha moment, when dots connect - you mentioning the "uncontrollable expulsion through the purge" !!!

[@206rubencruzguerrero6]

Thank you brother. I really admire you.

[@sharptungsten1970]

How much do these retreats typically cost? I'm very intrigued in trying these for my next steps into exploring.

[@MrB1923]

'Trust me. I know'. I don't think this is an over statement.

[@ZeginMakesMusic]

I've done DMT everyday this week. Twice on some days. I can't explain how or why, but all of a sudden smoking weed gives me closed eye visuals. Maybe it's my brain recreating it. Now that I know what DMT looks like, My brain seems to have no problem recreating it. My system hasn't been clean of thc in over 20 years, so I'm not sure if it would still work while completely sober. I may give that a try.

[@matthewmaguire3554]

Enlightenment is in there somewhere but first there is endarkenments riddles, mockery and punchlines to swim in.🙏

[@porkypig7850]

Could the dark experience that carry on are a way to go through them as to purge them eventually, IE there are no short cuts in life. You have to suffer to get through the other side. We all want good but not accepting bad. But bad is part of it also

[@porkypig7850]

Almost like if you have any negativity in life in general you have to ride it out with acceptance? Theres no short cuts to Feeling terrible. 👍

[@chasedavis2358]

The only bad trip I ever had was from ayahuasca but I felt relieved after it

[@richmigga7443]

Subscribed bro. May god bless you

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

Thanks and welcome

[@matthewmaguire3554]

Any trip is like when go to bed at night….you never know what you’re going to dream.

[@rustusandroid]

Word. Well said.

[@bindithorne6446]

Brilliant video.

[@mackychloe]

Thanks for sharing guys. If I may ask? what are your opinions/experiences on Cannabis being psychedelic at high doses?

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

I personally don’t use cannabis much at all. Its not that I have anything against it but for me it just isn’t enjoyable - I either fall asleep or feel sick. My wife Rachel is more of a fan and she talks about having very trippy experiences with it, so I think its definitely possible.

[@mackychloe]

@@AdeptusPsychonautica Thanks for the reply. Does wifey smoke, vape, dab, or does she make edibles? I've been inhaling cannabis for almost thirty years but I've never tried eating it and according to others (including good ol' Terence) it can be quite intense.

[@AdeptusPsychonautica]

mackychloe she just rolls a joint, but there have been edibles on occasion.

[@sneferuzefayawachuma]

@@mackychloe hi, sorry for the late reply! Yes unlike Rob I do enjoy cannabis and have also found it useful. It’s not a substance I use often or consider myself experienced enough to handle the effects easily. But I’ve had extremely psychedelic experiences on it, especially since having experience with tryptamines. It is a very interesting plant. I find a lot of the deep experiences difficult to recall which is a shame because I knew at the time that they had been profoundly insightful. I think it has huge potential but it’s hard for me to navigate and at times it has been unpredictable. Usually I smoke it but I have tried edibles. Edibles I found to be much deeper and more challenging, more physically incapacitating and last a lot longer. Much nicer to consume though when your cousin makes a mean walnut space cake! 😉

[@BarrySharp-ek5zc]

I love it!