The Dark Side of Table Tennis | ANTISPIN SPINREVERSAL MADNESS - 1K Sub Special!

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Today's video is a compilation of the dirtiest anti block that i've done with Dr Neubauer ABS over the years in official matches. 90% of them date back to when plastic ball was not there yet. Nowdays frictionless antispin requires much more skills to be used effectively.
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[@kimchiwarrior7194]

The only true "dark side" here is the people's anger and frustration for not being able to adapt to different playing styles (long pimples, anti spin, short pimples, etc), throwing rackets and smashing stuff. Keep it up buddy

[@yuu9258]

The problem is anti spin drag the game to a low level. If the other player also play with anti spin, the game will be like 2 kids playing with a very long ralley. It is like making a fight only with fists instead of swords. (Btw, anti spin users never have good techniques)

[@manudehanoi]

the anger is justified, one stroke requires a lot of skill and energy , the other nearly none.......But anger is common in TT and not just with anti

[@chessentials4261]

Fantastic video! After 20 years of normal rubbers, I switched to antispin (because my backhand sucks so the idea is to prepare the FH) and I am having the time of my life. Have never had this much fun with table tennis - especially since I can also sometimes twiddle and confuse my opponents! HAvne't yet played an official match, but have a tournament on Sunday and I hope to get at least one highlight similar to yours :) Thanks for the videos, they are great inspiration

[@federicofantolino9851]

When I read in the title: "dark side of table tennis", I always get excited! The introductions to the video are too well done! 1, 2, 3 Let's go!

[@AndreaAschi]

ahahah ma l'intro é pazzesca...pretendo che venga apprezzata 🤣🤣

[@federicofantolino9851]

@@AndreaAschi Questa è veramente speciale!

[@kgxgen2062]

Watching this video and hearing the background music just makes me picture Palpatine voicing over on top: "The Dark Side is a pathway to many abilities, some consider to be unnatural." Great video!

[@r0bb4l0u4]

It's kinda funny when you raise your fist in the air , while you actually didn't do anything. You didn't make the point, your opponent made the mistake because of misreading (not understanding) your rubber.

[@AndreaAschi]

So if the opponent makes a mistake, I can’t "celebrate"? Are you joking? 😂

[@r0bb4l0u4]

@@AndreaAschi lol, what's up with the long toes? ;) You can do whatever you want, I just say it's funny. He pushes back your serve and you push back and he makes a mistake. Not because of you, but because of the rubber. What great effort and accomplishment is that you have to celebrate? Anyway, keep playing and keep having fun bro! :)

[@AndreaAschi]

🤷‍♂️ Have a great day! ;)

[@naywon6492]

Dont: heavy topspin ,underspin serve. Sidespin serve: Dont do it. but sometimes you can try heavy sidespin to ace Do: Fast Long Float ball deep into BH and then always KILL the ball ( smash or loopkill). This will force him far from the table so you can take time for the next shot. If he try to pivot, seve short float into FH or short Heavy sidespin serve. Remember Always KILL the ball. Returning with Slow topspin will eventually make you lose. Pushing will make you lose.

[@AndreaAschi]

I hope my opponents don't see this message! 😉

[@naywon6492]

@@AndreaAschi hehehehe

[@whatismynamew]

only in table tennis do we have such madness. In no other racquet sport (tennis, badminton, squash). We have to endure anti-spin, long pips, short pips and then there are some guys playing with dead rubbers in local tournaments. There are all kinds of rubbers available providing slightly different spin quality. We have to adjust everytime. Becomes frustrating at times.

[@schem515]

i like it. everyone can build their own bat to make it fit their unique playstyle. it makes tabletennis so versatile

[@KrzysztofPinguje]

And in your mind there should be only one type of rubbers accepted? Or maybe even one standard bat for everyone?

[@PongGod]

This is why I think table tennis is more interesting than other racket sports. The incredible variety of playing styles really forces you to think so much and somewhat levels the playing field between players who possess superior athletic ability and those who don't.

[@alkuana804]

Especially when you don’t train against it

[@TimeForGamers]

Hope you get to post more frequent, you have an amazing channel!

[@AndreaAschi]

Thank you my friend! ❤️ When I am less busy I will upload more frequently. 🥲

[@TimeForGamers]

@@AndreaAschi awesome thanks!

[@stephdechatillon6591]

Great ! I use (gloss) antispli also, and I see with happiness the same surprised face of my opponents. Very often they look at their soft thniking it was wet, but the reality is that the problem is not their soft, it is mine :)))

[@AndreaAschi]

Hi Steph! It's good to know that you are also part of the dark side! 😈😁

[@zHqqrdz]

To anyone wondering what to do against such a rubber, you need to learn how to spin less when top spinning. But you can't just drive, otherwise the opponent won't feel like he has to use his antispin rubber. So it has to look like a topspin, but you don't spin much. That way you'll be able to do the top spin > push > top spin > push until you get a high enough ball to win the point. A lot of patience is required though.

[@Kaguzuchi83]

yep exactly...just patience

[@markusmaier2325]

This video shows exactly the difference between plastic and celluloid balls. No one can say frictionless antitop is dangerous on its own anymore just by holding the racket to block. So it is not the dark side anymore 😁 nice video 👍

[@AndreaAschi]

You know Markus, the good old days! ❤ I wrote exactly the same thing in the video description to avoid complaints from haters.

[@Gianlu2281]

@@AndreaAschi you deserve haters!!!😂😜

[@AndreaAschi]

Si vede che sei l'unico in Italia a dare ancora effetto alla pallina, mi hai fatto rivivere antiche sensazioni ahahah mitico Gianlu!

[@PongGod]

That ABS looks quite unique. I've never seen it up close, but just from watching it appears to possess typical qualities of both anti-spin and long pips. It's making me want to get a sheet just to mess around with it.

[@AndreaAschi]

It would be great if you tried one of these rubbers. With my videos I really try to entice people to try them. Fun is guaranteed! 😜

[@Antispingepi]

Ciao Andrea! Complimenti per i video! Una curiosità..quando blocchi con l'anti secondo te qual è il movimento giusto per massimizzare l'inversione ? Bisogna stare completamente fermi o "andare in su"?

[@AndreaAschi]

Ciao Giacomo! Il consiglio che ti do é di tenere la racchetta sempre perpendicolare e di regolarti in base a quanto é veloce il top che cerchi di bloccare. Se ti arriva una fucilata stai il più fermo possibile. Se arriva un top lento allora puoi leggermente "accompagnare" con il braccio. Si parla di movimenti brevi! Farò un tutorial più avanti dove cercherò, nel limite delle mie capacità, di chiarire i dubbi più comuni.

[@Antispingepi]

@@AndreaAschi sarebbe utilissimo perché manca totalmente una "dottrina" per chi gioca come noi e personalmente mi aiuterebbe a chiarire i dubbi sulla tecnica che non mi sono mai tolto. Grazie!

[@alessyo97ify]

La intro mi piega😂😂😂 C'è sempre un bellissimo ragazzo nei tuoi video, mi sembra di conoscerlo 🤪

[@AndreaAschi]

ahahah il mio nuus 😍 addirittura ti ho fatto un primo piano! Li stavi facendo quella tua famosa partita contro Assone ad Alba. 😁

[@user-es9vx2vm1w]

Andrea, I have a question. The Doctor has already released four versions of ABS - ABS 2, Soft, Evo and Pro. Everyone I know plays first ABS. What is the reason for this? Have you won with other versions of ABS? Our mutual friend Luka, also plays ABS first))

[@AndreaAschi]

Hi! :) All those who started playing with antispin many years ago used ABS because it was the best for the celluloid balls. With the entry of the new plastic balls antispin players have all changed to newest version because of the harder topsheet (trying to obtain same spinreversal)...I'm one of the very few who haven't changed, i never tried these new versions.

[@user-es9vx2vm1w]

@@AndreaAschi So it seems like you're not an old man, but you play first ABS)?

[@AndreaAschi]

I have not felt the need to change it over the years

[@Vracko2611]

Hahaha fantastic, i love anti spin

[@AndreaAschi]

💪🏻💪🏻

[@pnachtwey]

What are the differences between different antis when they are supposed to be frictionless. I know that thick sponges provide more damping, are slower, which is good for blocking fast balls. I tried MegaBlock and Buffalo. I couldn't do much with them. The people I play with know how to play against LP and frictionless anti.

[@semmyd27]

The game is the gameeeee

[@willyhaak9049]

Hello Andrea, Nice Video and as always well played. Which combo do you use? ABS? I am also a Antispin player but not so good as you are.

[@AndreaAschi]

Hello Willy! :) I use ABS with a 2.3mm pink sponge (you can find it at SpinlabItalia.com) 😉

[@willyhaak9049]

@@AndreaAschi thanks for your answer. Oké max. ABS. Is this rubber also good in de second line? Is it slow or fast rubber.Which blade and FH rubber di you play with?

[@arthurishii2187]

​@@AndreaAschi Do you have any vídeo to show/install to the sponge with the rubber?

[@UrbanZakapa01]

Hi, I'm going to try anti spin afterwards. One question: abs is too costly, so can we do all this by using cheaper one? Like 729 or yinhe rubber?

[@AndreaAschi]

I'm sorry, I don't know how the cheaper antispin work!

[@tokiemami]

I can help answer the question. How 729 anti works is nothing like Dr. Neubauer or Der Materialspezialist anti works. It's not even close to classic anti like Butterfly super anti or Yasaka anti power. The way 729 anti (anti tuttle anti and spinlord sandwind) works it you play it like you play using premade rubber. The ball it produces is mostly no spin balls. The main difference with cheap premade rubbers is this anti will last a very long time unlike premades.

[@tokiemami]

I must also add that although the ball is mostly no spin ball, this anti can produce spin, since it has frictions, albeit minimal.

[@lukas3859]

I use Butterfly super anti and Stiga energy absorber. They are cheap and good rubbers. Stiga has more spin surface, Butterfly is smooth without friction. :-)

[@knotwilg3596]

In some of these cases, you block a heavy topspin, which the opponent rightfully assumes to come back as heavy backspin, they open the racket and off it goes into space, as if there was no spin on the ball. How does that work? Can you even manipulate whether it reverses or not? Because then it would really be the dark side.

[@AndreaAschi]

The spin variation is not in my control. Antispin can only reverses what it receives. If the ball goes into space is because my opponent did a flat shot. ;)

[@avi.a.nnazrin4285]

שלום רב לכל השחקנים אנטי טופ ספין איזה גומי מוריד ככה את הכדור כמו גומי קוצים ?

[@technoxtreme178]

Following you closely now as I play long pips chop block style. I've seen you try a few blades and rubbers (and I agree with your Dr. N ABS). What is your current (2022) favourite blade and sponge to use with the ABS and are you using ABS 2.0 or 2.5? How did you find the Cybershape played or is it not quite suited to reverse spin or slow down enough. Also, what is your current FH rubber and thickness? Sorry for so many questions; I want to try a few things and may switch from a slow dead blade (great reversal) to something a little faster.

[@AndreaAschi]

Hi! Sorry for the late answer. My favourite setup still remain my Stiga Carbonado and pink slow sponge (by Spinlabitalia). Cybershape is also very good but i chose the wrong sponge to test antispin on it. I need to buy a thicker one. My current fh rubber is a Donic Bluestorm Z2 max. ;)

[@zapatherox8633]

@@AndreaAschi CARBONADO 190 ???

[@CapHH]

Reine Spielzerstörung durch Material. Ich hasse es. Spielfreude kommt gegen solche Gegner nicht auf.

[@rupertz.2903]

Hi Andrea! Very interesting (and amusing) video! So the tactical setup was a long underspin serve to lure the opponent into heavy topspinning the return, then you blocked the topspin thereby reversing the heavy spin to underspin, which they could not handle: ball in the net or an uncontrolled lifted ball off the table. Does this still work as good with the plastic ball? What would be an effective counter? Should the opponent just avoid topspinning against an anti, e.g.play mostly without spin?

[@AndreaAschi]

Hi Rupert! Welcome to my channel! :) Yes, my main tactic is to force my opponent to do a heavy topspin and then block short with good spinreversal. With plastic ball this scheme is less effective but it still viable, you just need to be prepared to continue the rally. What would be an effective counter? Simply try to play with as little spin as possible. Antispin would be harmless in this way. ;)

[@user-es9vx2vm1w]

@@AndreaAschi It turns out that it is difficult to play anti-spin against amateurs, so they rotate a little?

[@user-db1iz3fw8m]

@@user-es9vx2vm1w ye, they tend to play flatter (push or loops), and when player skill grows and more spin prodused it becomes easyer to play with anti or long pips. Until players start to understand principles of rotation and varying spin than anti spin players hit a wall.

[@Ironsmithwins]

Mizzica Bettiol che si incazza all'inizio è una perla!

[@Ironsmithwins]

ahahhahaha c'è Gabriele Grano che si mette sempre la mano in fronte ad ogni punto che fai di antispin xD

[@anzhelika.zhitnik]

Классная нарезка!) 👍👍👍

[@iztokzupancic3836]

Hi i am playing with ox long pimples on BH and rakza 7 on FH on def blade. I am playing at the table blockingand pushing game. I would like to try with antispin on BH with butterfly M Maze blade. What kind of antispin would you recomend for this blade and do you think it would be hard to play with this set up ? Thanks

[@AndreaAschi]

Hi Iztok! Which Maze blade do you have? The ALC version or a slower one? You can use antispin on any blade but remeber this: the stiffer the blade is, the better. Frictionless antispin work poorly on defensive/allround blades.

[@AndreaAschi]

Hi! Don't put link in the comment. KZbin removes automatically comments with link! 😉

[@iztokzupancic3836]

​@@AndreaAschi A ok so this was the problem :) So i have arylate carbon 7 ply M maze blade. Do you think it would be better to get some stiffer blade for frictionles antis. and what kind of anti would u recomend for at the table blocking and pushing. Thanks

[@AndreaAschi]

The arylate carbon version is a great option to start with anti! 👍 The antispin choice depends on your preferences. If you want to be "aggressive" i recommend you the new ABS 2 PRO. If you are looking for a more passive antispin you can try the ABS EVO version or Spinlab Vortex with slow sponge like the one i use. 😉

[@iztokzupancic3836]

@@AndreaAschi thans for your answer. What thickness would be best to get?

[@kaziczek]

There should be a separate ligue for pimples and anti spin... It just wrong entirely!

[@AndreaAschi]

I can not blame you if this is my only video you have seen! 😁 This is only a compilation of old blocks (celluloid balls era)

[@leonawroth2516]

I get all the younger players getting confused, but it's surprising to me, that you could even trick the older players seemingly a lot. They usually have enough practice against different rubber types. Maybe your anti spin is extra anti :)

[@AndreaAschi]

Believe me that frictionless anti players are very few. It is hard to find opponents who are used to playing against. 😉

[@Instrumentation-Control-Eng]

Dead rubbers playerd are also similar to anti spin

[@premyslrucky6548]

Hello, just a few provocative questions: Have you ever tried to actually learn to play backhand shot? Don't you think it would be a better feeling to actually win a point by your skill and not by the tricky behavior of your rubber? Just asking :-)

[@AndreaAschi]

Hi my friend! Watch this and you will have the answer 😉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mV7KeayQab6njLM

[@rolandoelizondo3575]

Hello Andrea.. Thank you for your videos.. in my case I use a gantli and it has helped me a lot in my game but I'm seeing that my opponents get very angry and in a tournament I don't care... but lately in my club they don't like my antiespin game either and they comment that it's not legal... what do you think about it?

[@PerfodDk]

What antispin rubber are you using, and how thick is the sponge

[@AndreaAschi]

I'm using a Dr. Neubauer ABS topsheet with a custom sponge (2.3mm pink sponge by SpinlabItalia)

[@azuanazzeham8361]

What a set up blade you use..and sponge thickness abs ?

[@AndreaAschi]

- Stiga Carbonado 190 - Dr. Neubauer A-B-S (2.3mm pink sponge by Spinlab)

[@Xzel0sX]

Damn this is fascinating, if you are ever in south west germany tell me. I really wanna play against you

[@AndreaAschi]

😊👍

[@fabiomoraesmachado]

Interesting to see a young player using Anti-spin. 35 years ago this type of rubber was only used by older people who thought they could not learn to backhand loop and/or did not have time to practice. Also no one liked to have them as training partners. I'm curious to know why young people are using Anti-spin nowadays.

[@AndreaAschi]

I use antispin because I love the strategy this rubber allows you to do. 😉 In training i play like a "normal" player twiddling the racket. In this way my training partner can not complains.

[@vitezslavlorenc3479]

I think they don't, just this guy and few others :-) Best strategy is to play aggressive and fast. At the level he plays, the antispin helps because it's played slowly and with enough exchanges. At a higher level, they usually attack immediately, directly from the service or the third ball and game is very fast.

[@AndreaAschi]

@@vitezslavlorenc3479 I agree with you 100%

[@vitezslavlorenc3479]

@@AndreaAschi Your forehand is pretty good. Drop that antispin, learn the backhand loop / topspin and then your game will be much better. I played long pimples a year ago but now I enjoy the attack much more. It's simply the best strategy, you just have to learn the strokes, which takes a while :-)

[@anzhelika.zhitnik]

Антиспин - это болезнь.) Чем дольше играешь, тем крепче иммунитет, больше стратегии и тактики, а соответственно быстрее реакция.) Ничто так не приносит удовольствие даже при проигрыше, как потрепать нервы сопернику и вывести его из равновесия.))

[@Chicho-trremoto]

I would like to try one of those rubbers. Which one do you recommend buying or which one generates the strangest or most difficult hits for the opponent.

[@AndreaAschi]

It is difficult to recommend one if I don't know your playing style and what blade you use. In general, der-materialspezialist/Barna Original anti's are the most annoying. Keep in mind that the more disruptive effect an anti has the more difficult it will be for a beginner to use.

[@rjari8578]

The thing about playing against anti spin is its frustrating at first but it takes time to get used to but the positive side is there is a lot to improve for a player who use regular rubber but for the anti spin player their level of development is very less. Once you beat the player with antispin, there is no way he/she can comeback to reach your level, they mostly succeed at an amateur level about its every hard for them to reach an advance level except for a few of course

[@AndreaAschi]

I agree 100% The only way for the antispin player to improve his/her game is to become better at all forehand shots and footwork.

[@alexr6470]

The easiest way to win an antispin player is to play no spin against him. They hate it.

[@AndreaAschi]

🤫😜

[@PingpongAddict]

Hello andree.. according yo your experiece using antispin .. which one best on reversal?

[@AndreaAschi]

Hello! The anti I tried with greater spin reversal was DMS Spinparasite 1.0mm. Amazing reversal but hard to use!

[@SimonDewey70]

so your getting lots of cheap points by playing a very unusual rubber combination against average players who have probably no experience of how to play against the spin? I don't think its worth bragging about really. Its bizarre these things were even developed I cant think of many other sports that would allow that level of tactical advantage that it essentially gives you free points. It goes against the spirit of the game to me.

[@AndreaAschi]

Hi Simon. I don't get LOTS free points thanks to rubber like the ones you see in the video. It's a compilation of points made by editing seven years of matches. About it being strange that certain rubbers were invented I can agree with you. But if they are approved and allowed by the ITTF I don't see where the problem is in using them. ;)

[@SimonDewey70]

@@AndreaAschi thanks for the reply, sorry my previous email was a bit salty, I also appreciate it takes skill as sometimes you have to return a ball with the anti spin to get the advantage so you have to adapt your game. Ive never played against anti spin but I imagine its frustrating :)

[@agungsubagyo5874]

for good size sponge will be 1.5 or 1.8 Im set up Blade nittaku barwell feet or butterfly Jun mitzutani super zlc that's the blade i have

[@agungsubagyo5874]

Help

[@AndreaAschi]

1.8mm is better on fast blades like yours! Choose the blade with which you have more forehand control.

[@zapatherox8633]

How do you remove the sponge from the ABS rubber? This rubber is not available in OX... how do you separate the sponge from the rubber??

[@AndreaAschi]

I did that process only once just using my hands and a lot of patience 😬

[@k.canevi910]

Hi Andrea, in your opinion what is the best blade for frictionless antispin rubber? (For example first ABS)

[@AndreaAschi]

Hi! I tested very few blades, unfortunatly i can't give you an exhaustive answer. The Stiga Carbonado 190 I use is great for my forehand game (the most important thing for me when I have to choose a blade) but is also very good with slow antispin. I think there are better suited blades for antispin on the market. I'll do some tests in the near future! 😉

[@otisskopik1400]

How is it possible to create heavy backspin and topspin with the same kind of block?

[@Mateusz17337]

Hi Andrea im curious how give that amazing backspin to opponent like 0:09 I play anti and never know how to do that. Its a technique or diffreneve between rubbers and desks? I use dr neubauer Grand master + and ABS 2 evo.

[@AndreaAschi]

Hi Mateusz! In that particular case it is a combination of several factors: - old celluloid balls that took more effect - the correct impact on the ball (right timing and angle of the racket and low trajectory) - the quality of the opponent's shot - the opponent misreading the bounce of the ball.

[@Mateusz17337]

@Andrea Aschi so you can also do that with plastic balls? And what anti and desk you think is the best?

[@AndreaAschi]

Unfortunately, I no longer got the same results in terms of spinreversal. The latest models (Dr. Neubauer A-B-S 2 EVO or PRO) that came out after the introduction of the plastic ball are the best.

[@tomantispin]

Hey man what is your favorite anti now? And why? Mine is störkraft in 0.8 or superglanti in 1.2 mm

[@AndreaAschi]

Hi Tom! I have been using Dr. Neubauer ABS topsheet with custom sponge (by spinlabitalia) for 7 years...this is my favorite! 😉

[@tomantispin]

@@AndreaAschi hey man how come? Best spin reversal? I find it hard to find a anti that suits my forehand game…. My forehand is a rocket and i always play alc blades. When i use a slower blade my forehand is weak but the anti is perfect! Short blocks with a lot of backspin…. What blade are you using? And how are your blocks?

[@Listermintsluesh]

Haha I use to play super special ox made by hallmark. Boy had fun with that. It was utterly deadly. Basically, everything but the kitchen sink was thrown back into opponents arms. Lol. Andrea Hallmark did mirage anti as a friccy type rubber. Any views on this one ? I've a sheet it's like cardboard.

[@AndreaAschi]

I have one Hallmark Mirage topsheet but I never used it. I think it can be viable option if paired with a dampening sponge! 😉

[@saurabhnavangul6691]

Please avoid music background. The sound of the TT bat and ball itself is music for TT lovers :) Also it would have been super useful to mention the anti spin rubber names used by the players with the thickness. It would have been more educational IMHO

[@BadDog69]

Please upload a short pips hitter vs antispin player

[@AndreaAschi]

I actually recorded a couple of games against a guy with double short pips (fh and bh). 😳 I could upload them if interested.

[@BadDog69]

@@AndreaAschi That would be nice

[@patrickdelfin3922]

Equipment?

[@AndreaAschi]

Hi Patrick! I use: - Stiga Carbonado 190 - Donic Bluestorm Z2 (Max) - Dr Neubauer ABS (with Pink 2.3mm sponge by Spinlab)

[@rahimtalib8269]

hi bro .. can i know what thickness of anti dr neubauer ABS rubber you use?

[@AndreaAschi]

Hi Rahim! I don't use the original sponge. I use the pink 2.3mm sponge by spinlab. You can find it here (www.spinlabitalia.com)

[@Ale_Soraci25]

Video dell'anno

[@AndreaAschi]

🤣🤣 sarebbero già bastati i primi 3 secondi per renderlo un successone! 😅

[@alvindraelc.3731]

What is the diferent ABS n ABS2 EVO? I used ABS2 Evo but its still a bit faster. Blade matador texa carbon

[@AndreaAschi]

Hi! I don't use the original ABS sponge so I can't tell you what is the difference in speed. The EVO sponge seems slower to me than ABS original sponge

[@alvindraelc.3731]

Thanks for a great info. I'll try another sponge for better speed to me. Good luck...

[@user-vs1lr9yi8k]

I do not understand everybody is blaiming on players who plays frictionless rubber. There is nothing easier to play against, of course only if you understand what you doing by yourself at the table. So smart players not loosing against this players if the quality is equal.

[@rachmatramdhoni719]

It doesn't matter for choper, I have beat good antispin player using curl P1V

[@nighter7074]

antispin is mostly for the cheap anti-fun player, because no one really have the the time or budget(or even the opportunity) to practice against antispin. So it's an easier way for weak players to win some stuff in tournments, but whenever they are faced with real threats like real pros they just lose

[@AndreaAschi]

☝🏻

[@giovanniserra5477]

Ciao Andre video bellissimo e l'intro è stupenda. A quando il tutorial su come usare l'anti? A presto Darth Vader dell' antitop....

[@AndreaAschi]

Grande Giova!!! Tu si che hai gusti buoni. 😁😁 Per il tutorial vorrei fare le cose in grande, non un video banale. Quindi a breve no, ma se hai bisogno di consigli puoi sempre scrivermi! A presto Giova buona serata!

[@johanjonasson4188]

I don't really understand what anti spin is. Is it some kind of slice?

[@AndreaAschi]

Hi Johan. Take a look a the antispin section: www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=racketinsight.com/table-tennis/choosing-a-table-tennis-rubber/&ved=2ahUKEwi829L10Yz2AhUlzTgGHdvPBloQFnoECBYQAQ&sqi=2&usg=AOvVaw3Wbog4ymJ15AM-U9pevxTR

[@marcosguglielmetti]

does this anti spin rubber returns a dead / empty ball or does it returns a reverse effect ball like a slide?

[@AndreaAschi]

Hi Marcos, it reverse the effect! 😉

[@marcosguglielmetti]

@@AndreaAschi thanks for the reply... but , how can it do it? it is not long pimples... I tought that the ball would just slipped there...

[@lukas3859]

@@marcosguglielmetti You don´t need long pimples, when you have smooth rubber almost without friction. :-)

[@vukb723]

@@marcosguglielmetti if someone hits the ball with the racket handle it has a similar reversal effect, just no friction :)

[@marcosguglielmetti]

@@vukb723 well, we should train that handle shot...

[@thevisionaire]

where do i get that rubber thanks....

[@AndreaAschi]

You can find antispin topsheet and sponge at TTSaturn.com 😉

[@scottbaker-ScottyB]

You have to study the rubber contact and reversal. Unskilled are not watching bat and rubber with there eyes.

[@SebaTDM]

Estoy leyendo a muchos jugadores mediocres quejándose del Antispin. Si tanto les molesta, porque no practican cómo vencerlos? Si quieren un juego rápido de golpe a golpe tienen que subir a una liga más alta, pero no les da porque son jugadores horribles sin buena técnica! Dejen de llorar!

[@bintangseptember6951]

what about anti power, is the effect the same as anti sepin? (explanation please)

[@AndreaAschi]

Anti power is a classic antispin (low friction), so it's easier to play and more versatile than antispin like ABS (frictionless) but less disturb for the opponent.

[@bintangseptember6951]

@@AndreaAschi 👍, thank you for the explanation, 

[@taniwhaman2250]

Create a separate division for anti spin

[@AndreaAschi]

🫣

[@user-zy7vz9yu9j]

very good! from Japanese high school student!

[@AndreaAschi]

Thank you!! 😊 welcome to my channel!

[@user-zy7vz9yu9j]

@@AndreaAschi please tell me ABS’s merit

[@AndreaAschi]

What does "merit" mean?

[@user-zy7vz9yu9j]

@@AndreaAschi Strong Points

[@AndreaAschi]

- service return is easier. - the ability to produce strange trajectories which are often poorly managed by the opponent.

[@user-un4ge3dk1f]

what your blade???

[@AndreaAschi]

Stiga Carbonado 190

[@dinosagadal607]

The real dark side of table tennis is failure to read spins

[@AndreaAschi]

That's right! ☝️

[@mauriciopollum9472]

the diference between Table Tenis and Ping Pong, but .....

[@AndreaAschi]

W il Ping Pong! 😃

[@mirkodangina9019]

Ciao sei molto a usare lantitop lo vorrei mettere anche io che mi consigli abs o la 2 ce anche la soft la evo e la pro sempre la 2 che millimetraggio mi consigli grazie.

[@AndreaAschi]

Ciao Mirko! Per poterti consigliare dovrei sapere però di più su che stile di gioco hai, che telaio usi, che cosa vorresti ottenere dall'anti (inversione o controllo), ecc.

[@mirkodangina9019]

@@AndreaAschi ciao io tre telai il primorac off+ poi un gionis carbon off e un zhan jike carbon off, su quale mi consigli di mettere la antitop e riguardo il gioco vorrei controllare invertire e spingere grazie.

[@AndreaAschi]

Dai telai decisamente performanti deduco tu sia un attaccante. Su quelli mi sento di consigliarti: - la Spinlab Vortex 2 (gommapiuma rossa da 2mm) se preferisci dare priorità al controllo. Ha la gommapiuma molto morbida quindi ammortizza bene. - La ABS 3 (2mm) o la 2 EVO (2.5mm) del Dr.Neubauer per un gioco più incentrato sulle spinte dato che hanno gommepiuma più dure ma sempre lente. A livello di inversione son molto simili.

[@mirkodangina9019]

@@AndreaAschi ok grazie per il consiglio prenderò allora la ABS 2 evo da 2.5 disturba sulle spinte

[@mirkodangina9019]

@@AndreaAschi buongiorno scusa se ti disturbo prenderò allora la ABS evo da 2.5 come mi hai detto su quale telaio e meglio sui tre che il primorac off+ il gionis carbon off o sul zhang jike off carbon, grazie .

[@benzeman54]

AB3 1.5 mm?

[@AndreaAschi]

No, it's ABS1 with spinlab pink sponge

[@Gohan00777]

Are all versions of ABS ittf approved ?

[@AndreaAschi]

Yes, of course!

[@Gohan00777]

Feels like illegal right !

[@arutosme]

What blade you use?

[@AndreaAschi]

Stiga Carbonado 190!

[@Roman25270234]

Какая толщина губки?

[@niklaskras5498]

Disgusting. But their own fault most of the time. Weird flight path but their own spin. You provoke the heavy topspin with your underspin serve, block it and they fall right into your trap. But i am surprised that some guys make the same mistake several times. The first one or two are all right but after that they should have learnd their lessons.

[@AndreaAschi]

Hi Niklas. many people (especially kids) are used to training only topspin, counter-topspin, bh "banana" flip, ecc...when they meet me they don't know what to do. But nowdays antispin, with the plastic ball era, are not that dangerous anymore. Bye!

[@luciodrum87]

Potevi intitolarlo "maledetto antitop!" 😂😉

[@AndreaAschi]

Chi ha la "sfortuna" di aprirlo il video se ne accorgerà presto che il messaggio è quello 🤣🤣

[@indrs4511]

hebat , saya sangat tertarik belajar anti spin

[@AndreaAschi]

I will do an antispin tutorial in the future! ;)

[@indrs4511]

@@AndreaAschi thank. Saya pernah pakai anti spin (BH) extra slow (der materialspezialist) dengan blade Animus Mars 2 K Combi SS selama 6 bln, tetapi karena kurang maximal saya stop. Sekarang saya pakai long pimple rebellion. Setelah nonton video ini saya tertarik ingin coba lagi pakai anti spin extra slow, blade mana yang direkom untuk karet tsb, saya punya blade : - Darker speed 90 - Dr Neubauer Magical Touch - Animus Mark 2 K Combi SS. Saya akan selalu nonton video anda

[@AndreaAschi]

@@indrs4511 If you use extra slow anti then choose the fastest blade you have! :)

[@indrs4511]

@@AndreaAschi thank for your answer, I will try it

[@Viktorshikhov0676]

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[@VeteranWS]

what is the setup, name of anti, thickness, blade, thx

[@AndreaAschi]

Hi! Blade: Stiga Carbonado 190 Anti topsheet: Dr. Neubauer A-B-S Anti sponge: Spinlab pink 2.3mm Fh: Donic Bluestorm Z2 max

[@VeteranWS]

@@AndreaAschi for 2.3 it has quite a reversal

[@VeteranWS]

@@AndreaAschi i play vortex 2.3 with plastic balls it does not have such a reversal

[@AndreaAschi]

@@VeteranWS do you play the pink sponge? Or the red one? It changes a lot. What kind of blade are you playing with? As I wrote in the description 90% of this blocks have been performed before the plastic ball era...when it was lot easier to achieve high reversal.

[@VeteranWS]

@@AndreaAschi i play with the slowest from spinlab and butterfly garadiya

[@ansasasa214]

Karet nya sdh ada di Indonesia, Om

[@lolwht1]

no skill, no technique... rubber does everything for you

[@AndreaAschi]

100% correct!

[@AncientMaya3D]

Destructive Table Tennis!! No fun to watch.

[@AndreaAschi]

😢

[@pascalbleval7215]

I think it's very fun to watch and it does require much skill to do what Andrea achieves here. It's no simple "out the blade in front of the ball and boom". I've just begun to use an anti, too, i know how hard it is to block with it.

[@lukazagi9183]

0 respect for those that use these rubbers.. like just play normal

[@AndreaAschi]

Thank you for sharing your opinion

[@pascalbleval7215]

Everyone deserves respect so long as they play by the rules, which is the case here. This is also my opinion here.

[@ragnaraiane5]

What thickness are you using?

[@AndreaAschi]

I'm using a custom sponge (SpinlabItalia), 2.3mm pink version.

[@ragnaraiane5]

@@AndreaAschi Can you attack with it? im curious.

[@AndreaAschi]

With this slow and dampening sponge is super hard to attack. There are better sponges if you are interested in a more aggressive style.

[@ragnaraiane5]

@@AndreaAschi Im glad you are replying to my messages. I've been playing with an SP FH and BH Inverted for a while and recently changed my BH to an Anti ( S&T Super stop at 1.5mm). I can attack with it with something like absorb then flicking it flat with a loud thonk sound. I am leaning into an aggressive anti bh, what anti do you recommend? i got an abs evo 2 at 2.1mm as a spare. love the videos man!

[@AndreaAschi]

I recommend you the new Dr. Neubauer ABS PRO. It seems the best if you want to play anti-spin aggressively. 😉

[@semakindekat]

Please give me sponge thickness???

[@AndreaAschi]

Hi! I use the pink 2.3mm sponge by Spinlab! ;) You can find it here: www.spinlabitalia.com

[@semakindekat]

@@AndreaAschi im from Indonesian thanka my bro, can i buy in my country

[@AndreaAschi]

Yes i think! Send an email to Spinlab guy. 😉

[@inquistive]

Antispin rubber should be banned. People only use it because they want to gain an advantage by equipment rather than skill.

[@i-ones_ptmalamghoib]

Like

[@AndreaAschi]

:)

[@maulanarahman6576]

Not beauty for anti spin...but Iam enjoy

[@AndreaAschi]

I'm glad you enjoyed it! :)

[@user-xx7pc9vg1l]

🤣🤣🤣

[@jensgro8017]

Was für ein Holz spielst du

[@AndreaAschi]

Stiga Carbonado 190!

[@hiwajabar4802]

There is no such thing as Antispin Player, you are just not even a player. The rubber does it all and you are just holding the racket as any first-timer would do

[@AndreaAschi]

Finally someone has figured it out!

[@asiangamers8514]

I think anti spin should be banned from all tournament as it is not good for TT experiences and fun time. Even audience watching will fall asleep...

[@AndreaAschi]

🥲

[@MayaSari-ec1fw]

Anti spin is bored rubber

[@AndreaAschi]

🥲

[@mrunluckyguy1741]

0:30 the score is 69

[@jensgro8017]

?

[@guillaumeh5513]

This is not dark side of table tennis. This is just pure anti table tennis

[@AndreaAschi]

Sounds good! 😇

[@pmariner65video]

Veramente sleale, mi spiace vedere un giovane talentuoso come Andrea che si rovina come giocatore utilizzando queste diavolerie sleali invece di imparare ad usare il top spin di rosvescio... che tristezza

[@AndreaAschi]

Paolo se ti limiti a giudicarmi guardando questo video posso anche capire...il mio gioco è molto più complesso di così.

[@pmariner65video]

​@@AndreaAschi non metto in dubbio che tu sia una persona corretta e che utilizzi quelle gomme con una tecnica creativa e particolare, ma il tuo video rafforza in me la convinzione che quel tipo di gomme siano illegali, in quanto portano a situazioni di gioco nelle quali non esiste modo all'avversario di restituire la palla ritornata. Tali situazioni, come si vede dal video, si generano quando viene risposto a forte top spin col la gomma antitop: a causa della fortissima rotazione della palla riflessa dall'antitop, cui viene probabilmente aggiunta una extra rotazione dovuta al movimento di blocco sul tavolo, viene restituita una palla con una rotazione di backspin così alta che non esiste nemmeno in teoria un modo per restituirla oltre la rete. Se così fosse, tali gomme dovrebbero essere vietate, perché dovrebbe essere sempre possibile, almeno in teoria, poter restituire una palla, per quanto difficile sia. Se invece, per le leggi della fisica, tale possibilità non esiste neanche in teoria, ecco che tali gomme dovrebbero essere vietate. Credo che per dipanare tale dubbio dovrebbero essere condotti degli esperimenti in un laboratorio di Fisica, io sono laureato in Fisica (anche se sono finito a fare un altro mestiere) e ho ancora qualche conoscenza in facoltà, questo studio potrebbe essere una perfetta tesi di laurea per uno studente, proverò a vedere se riesco a convincere qualcuno a farla. A parte questo, da innamorato di questo sport, davvero non riesco a capire come tanti bravi giovani talentuosi come te rinuncino di fatto a dei colpi meravigliosi come il top spin e la schiacciata di rovescio. Sono colpi difficilissimi e capisco che per far guadagnare punti e non perderli, richiedono tante ore di allenamento che pochi si possono permettere, ma sono dei gesti atletici di una bellezza ineguagliabile, io rimango incantato quando li vedo sui video dei campioni. Io sono una sesta categoria, distante anni luce da un giocatore come te, ma nel mio piccolissimo cerco di allenarmi per migliorarli e utilizzarli in campionato e nei tornei, per me il 50% dell'enorme soddisfazione di giocare a tenni s tavolo proviene da questo, dalla voglia di migliorare quei colpi, sarebbe impossibile per me utilizzare un puntino lungo o un'antitop.

[@waroot1234]

so frustrated

[@AndreaAschi]

👍😇

[@mgarzonf]

🌎🇪🇨🙂👍

[@michaeldete9058]

I guess dark side means the horrible music!

[@AndreaAschi]

👍🏻😂

[@Kaffielo]

I think pimple rackets should be banned from ITTF.

[@bobleming5673]

We were here first, ban Tenergy and Hurricane, then we can talk

[@jarotsuharyaji2978]

in the beginning people were using short pimple hard-bat in table tennis... lol. See how people take advantage of bery fast spinny rubbers nowadays.

[@sidd3655]

Cry some more haha

[@linsresidence8390]

I think ITTF should ban players like you instead. Because you are too dumb to fight pimple/anti rubbber players who are supposed to be inferior to the inverted rubber players 😂

[@sasukaotomo2916]

Ban all type of rubber... People should play with blade without rubber only...🤣