The Dark Side Of The Silk Road

The silk road has a lot of history as a marketplace but very few people know the full story. In today's deep dive we will take a look into the untold side of the silk road
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[@BarelySociable]

Fair warning. Tons of spoilers in the comments. Follow up video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4e9nJyHit98irc

[@amuricuh6143]

Bro I was legit wanting an actual silk road documentary like the real life one. I am sad I have been click baited yet again :(

[@Nik-ff3tu]

You sir are a talented investigative journalist. I'm hooked

[@gaia260686]

Thanks!

[@notbigboss9254]

We produce a lot of things that would get this video Demonitized, we also produce a lot of other things that would get this video Demonitized

[@OwenTheTitan]

what’s the next video?

[@belainverso7455]

Took me 8 seconds to realize this is not the about overland trade routes of the Han dynasty

[@kuhataparunks]

this is literally what I thought this video was about, rofl

[@Jamsomeone]

Same 😂 still watched it though

[@NoobsofFredo]

@@Jamsomeone Me as well.

[@TheWicked696]

Same

[@Likes_Trains]

I said exactly the same thing out loud :'D

[@phaineinTV]

"I won't be blackmailed." - quote from man blackmailed.

[@josephoyek6574]

Shut up, fucking weeb. -fucking weeb.

[@candeeartist8590]

@@josephoyek6574 You sound like a moron -a moron

[@chloewinnaa1515]

@@candeeartist8590 Artists are irrelevant - a smart man

[@candeeartist8590]

@@chloewinnaa1515 I don't know what you're implying but whatever go off sis

[@chloewinnaa1515]

@@candeeartist8590 just comtinuing the chain of insulting the person above. Nothin' personnel kid

[@Costco_Employee]

"I've only ever commissioned one other hit, so I'm still learning this market" is CRAZY

[@gabrielcamposagrado]

Yeah, that was so callous, non-chalant and heartless.

[@getajobmate1281]

it's clear he was so enthusiastic about enacting a walter white-esque power play that he didnt stop to think about how anything actually worked

[@aegonthedragon7303]

And like Walter White his downfall came as a result of hubris. Even then Walt almost got away with it all if not for that book, while Ross was being tracked from the start.

[@Piehogger]

I was fully prepared to watch an hour long video about people being mugged in the sand over some chinese worm-cloth, but this works too.

[@_pyxeled]

I am forever going to call silk "worm-cloth" now, thank you

[@choog2752]

As soon as you left the protection of the Great Wall there was bandits who would rob you. Maybe they just didn’t go past the wall

[@astersaur]

Piehogger mood

[@johnnypapa9248]

Aha same here i was hoping for some epic stories about the Mongols or something

[@2econd428]

Lmaooooo same!

[@expiredlettuce141]

I like how at the end he says have a good night, because this is exactly the type of video you watch at night

[@rebeccac324]

i’m watching at 4am

[@heretustay]

@@rebeccac324 shit, me too

[@samsfog3591]

I’m watching it at 2:15pm but it’s dark out cause it’s rainy

[@moldo7799]

its 4 am and i'd watch it again

[@Yung813]

Shit put me to sleep

[@anon69669]

It’s also funny that Ross didn’t realize he was getting scammed when my first guess was that all those accounts were the same person. The whole story is so zany. The fact that he thought a Hell’s angel would make an account on his site because a middleman that owed them money told them to just shows how out of touch he was…

[@shanetonkin2850]

Exactly, there were so many red flags throughout the whole thing like the similarities in writing styles (overly long and rambling, incorrectly used lowercase i’s everywhere) and the complete implausibility of Red and White’s behaviour eg. *joining a dark web market (still fairly obscure at the time) solely to speak to a complete stranger about what is ostensibly just an ordinary, real-world, debt collection matter. *and then make numerous admissions of criminal behaviour to this complete stranger over the Internet, and even plan several murders with him, in painstaking detail, whilst professing to not be very tech savvy. *eagerly accepting bitcoin as the payment method for a 150k murder-for-hire, then after the fact claiming to not even know how to cash out bitcoin. *claiming that his organisation try’s to steer clear of murdering people, but then freely admits murdering somebody recently and happily accepts contracts for several more murders, and even has an established pricing structure for murders. *conveniently always just happens to have “a guy” on hand to do exactly what is required *always creates time pressure for Ross to agree to (and hence pay for) the murders quickly, which is a classic hallmark of a scam

[@uthskid]

lmfaooo literally came here to comment this exact thing.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

@@shanetonkin2850 they also have safe houses, were they take people, that they seem to tort ure people to get them to talk, when not just was that not part of the deal. The info they got was exactly what was already known. They also have an entire recon team it's so ridiculous

[@navonmyhand7999]

@Shane Tonkin thanks for putting it all out like that because I can't help but think.. okay a Hell's Angel on the dark web exchanging messages with a guy who runs a massive drug market... fine, but immediately taking payment in bitcoin for hired hits with contracts in place and all the talking at length. You'd think he would recognize the plot got a bit silly.

[@arthurdurham]

Even funnier how Red&White had a icon of a skull in a biker helmet. Like they'd go out of their way to do that 😂

[@cambo6814]

This is genuinely one of the greatest true stories I’ve heard on KZbin. The twist was insane. Absolutely shocking

[@th0w464]

Wait so who was behind whose accounts? I’m confused, Ross is The dread roberts right?

[@drogba8722]

​@@th0w464 dpr was ross, the rest of the accounts were run by same guy called James Ellingson. He got outplayed on so many levels by just one dude. Crazy 🤯

[@samficken934]

@@th0w464 rednwhite and friendlychemist r the same person conning ross aka dread roberts

[@brainstew1723]

did you just watch 1 hour and 15 minutes completely unaware of what was being narrated? @@th0w464

[@yak4772]

Chemist real juicy drop r&w anybody ross was talking too was completely made up all running off one dude who was the scammer I honestly can’t believe this story how is this not universally well known it involves the first time the dark Web was ever talked about online

[@niqul5654]

I watched this genuinely wanting a history of the dark side of a trade route 2,150 years ago, however still satisfied

[@boywithoutsoul587]

I was hoping the same as I'm currently studying Economics in Uni. But shit went dark real quick

[@lolineko2083]

The camel on the sand path definitely was misleading xD

[@eclecticsoffy]

Same here

[@jondoe2k]

Me too 🤪

[@weebuwubaka7776]

😭

[@jkroeze4418]

Love how “hells angels” guy starts by claiming they don’t do hits and just a bit later he has all this intricate shit planned out

[@agustinvega8969]

Exactly lol. “We don’t do hits” and then has guys that do recon, out of town guys, all professional’s who do it right and don’t f*** up. 😂

[@theguywhocomments5713]

He was fucking with ross let's be honest lol

[@adamarmstrong6646]

That’s what I thought lol they don’t call it that stuff when they don’t know for sure who they are talking to

[@gothie9507]

yeah I've been threatned by them bc my dad fot ina fought woth one we almost brought it to court and they said they would kill all of my family we moved states

[@cucumber623]

the most polite drug dealer ever

[@Fuviy1]

The fact that he intended and was under the impression to have successfully have essentially 3 people taken out is enough for me to say he got what he deserved

[@etherealsunflowers]

Exactly. Blew my mind when BS said the sentence was too harsh. Ross did not care about anyone’s life but his own.

[@TheTERMlNAT0R]

When you run a multi million dollar business…murder may indeed be a small portion of your success….i see no wrong here. He intended to do what anyone in his position hasn’t already done. Trust that shit

[@dogguy8603]

Which was arguably entrapment, not to mention the max penalty being 9 years in prison, not life without parole

[@the_tax_consultant]

​@@TheTERMlNAT0R So you would be willing to commit murder to maintain your business?

[@wergthy6392]

@@dogguy8603 How was this entrapment? It wasn't law enforcement doing this, it was a scammer

[@urnotreal420]

this is my comfort video. ive fell asleep to it so many times. I go to it when I feel down or when I feel happy. Thank you for making it.

[@Tourettes0]

soo glad i am not the only one!!!!

[@Obstile]

me too!

[@kurtgulbro1542]

Fr, his voice is so comforting

[@IIIDarkWorlDIII]

Haha same here

[@Jason-wp4hw]

How? this shit makes me so paranoid and uncomfortable

[@SsnakeBite]

Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that the FBI's plan to get the laptop was to have two of their agents pretend to have a lovers' quarrel, until Ross felt so awkward he'd leave, hopefully leaving his computer with all the info for his black market platform open and unattended? And even MORE hilarious that it _worked?_

[@newageweeb4049]

Thats the kind of thing that would be in a comedy movie

[@matthewherr1588]

SsnakeBite the more I think about that, the funnier it gets. We see two tricks in this video: an elaborate scam with multiple identities and carefully thought out reasoning, and a classic case of “hey! Look over there at that distraction!” Somehow, Ross fell for both

[@JoeNoshow27]

My take is the guy was a complete idiot who's narcissism made him believe he was untouchable. His arrest was inevitable.

[@TheDanAge]

Almosy makes it sound fake... or like he was set up.

[@californiapoontappa]

Cpuld you imagine the cop that grabbed it amd was like ok i got it. You cam stop. Like imagine being ross in that situation wtf lol

[@jonathanngai5956]

Did this guy literqlly just try to pull the "it's a social experiment" / "it's a prank" at the court

[@miclelakes7413]

How is it a prank and what would be the point

[@brendan1871]

Money Laundering, Drug Trafficking, and FAKE Hitman Prank/Social Experiment (GONE SEXUAL!) *NOT CLICKBAIT*

[@yaboyjonez9476]

Imagine the judge setting him free 😂

[@renefgc]

@@brendan1871 with a fatass red arrow

[@simonm-m8106]

Imagine the judge then being like "understandable, have a nice day"

[@harrickvharrick3957]

Ross so terribly underestimated the forces that would come after him. it caused him fatal mistakes: not to have a much stricter instant lockdown encryption system on his laptop, and worst of all, leaving traces that led straight to himself, even carrying his own name.

[@acat6145]

the encryption would be useless once it was in the hands of the FBI they would crack that computer for everything it has

[@LDAR]

Also just straight up leaves computer open in public. Id never do that and I don't have that much to hide lol

[@joseamieva2168]

I think one of the most insane parts of this story is that Ross Ulbright was so easily fooled. He’s from Texas, dude had a 1450 on his SAT and studied Physics at UT Austin. A classically brilliant man who for whatever reason was also incredibly gullible 😂

[@mbtravel7294]

Its called not being street smart

[@brothermanbill8358]

@@mbtravel7294 Mhm

[@jeremyb5407]

I think his ego done him in. In his mind it was totally reasonable that he could convince some minions to gets an actual HA member to join his forum and engage him and do his bidding

[@rykaz8081]

The hell does being from Texas have to do wit anything 😂😂

[@teddyroth1514]

UT Dallas

[@sh.osmanov6792]

Dude was so manipulated didn't even question the blackmail.txt

[@eyegrinder94]

I think there's a point where if you believe that a person is who they say they are and are telling the truth, you kind of stop scanning for things that might not add up, as long as they aren't so glaring that you can't help but question it. But still... blackmail.txt?

[@kaiseramadeus233]

@@eyegrinder94 probably talking about how it seemed the guy legitimately thought he could get blackmailed. Not even a "wtf this is fake" kind of thing. Just believed it was true and worked to get several assassins in

[@fatpen9731]

Who was redndwhite and friendlychemist ?

[@bcklee1]

takitaki rumbah the same person, ross got scammed

[@styxzero1675]

@@fatpen9731 I think they were all the same guy... Lucy, Rednwhite and friendlychemist were all this James Ellingson guy that later got arrested.

[@DancingProduce]

"we produce a lot of things that would get this video demonetized" its really considerate of them to be so concerned with your video

[@jacksonelh]

those hell's angels folks seem mighty fine

[@GeneralRaam03]

Kevin Nix r/woooosh

[@CODYLOUIS]

@Kevin Nix I either love u, or hate u for that comment.

[@2supergg]

@@jacksonelh they are canadians after all

[@britsaunders2151]

@@RadkeMaiden we do quite enjoy our crack addicts.

[@ManahManah77]

After you listen to his parents you understand why he grew up thinking he could get away with something like that. The fact that the people that he thought he was ordering killed weren't real may have kept him from being charged criminally with murder doesn't excuse him morally. If that had been a law enforcement agent instead of a scammer that he'd been talking to, he could have easily been charged with and convicted of conspiracy to commit murder.

[@PrezVeto]

It depends on exactly how the statutes are worded. The legal issue would've been the same regardless of who he was talking to.

[@easternrebel1061]

That's what I don't understand about people religiously defending him, mainly extreme libertarians who are high on the kool aid. Ok, so the people that he ordered hits on were fake and he got scammed. Sure his stupidity and gullibility, as well as te stupidity of running a dark web illicit marketplace that facilitated the drugs and arms trade that was tied to his freaking Gmail account is pretty hilarious, but the bottom line is, at the time of ordering the hits he very much believed it was real. Thats the important part his white knights seem to put so much effort into ignoring, probably hoping it goes away. Everything I'd need to know about this guy's moral compass is thanks to those messages. Was tge scammer in the right? Of course not, but it tells you that the people who run sites like the sill road and all their clones, as well as most libertarians who defend them aren't doing it in your interest as a consumer being screwed by a tyrannical government and bureaucratic red tape, but in the interests of criminals. They want to make it harder to catch, try, and punish these criminals who ate more than capable, at least psychologically, of doing great harm to others with zero remorse. Sure the scammer is also a POS, but he accidentally did us all a favor by revealing the evil behind these so called attempts to stick it to "big government".

[@BigFreem]

It’s pretty widely assumed that he was indeed talking to LE

[@easternrebel1061]

@@BigFreem assumptions mean absolutely nothing without hard proof.

[@icep0pp]

Absolutely nailed it.

[@DailyDoseOfInternet]

Great video

[@AdityaKumar-uf5ho]

Who else is here from the tweet 👇

[@mateuslira3411]

​@@AdityaKumar-uf5home

[@pro-ts9xu]

U were talking like u saw this video earlier... nah bro, u just watched this video because of the tweet

[@ChristinaMagma]

Hey Daily! Found this video after seeing your tweet

[@Tirth-Patel]

Came here after your recommendation. Currently downloading, will watch it later.

[@tenko5541]

Came for the historic trade route. Stayed for the dreadlock pirate.

[@joshuateran3728]

kash Bamba same

[@feelingfriskyx560]

get agrop

[@UltraNyan]

Well it was an historic trade route for the internet

[@GustavoTeixeira-hu1ck]

The same but I didn't stay, just stop the video and came see if someone else was mistaken by the title. I'm out.

[@everything777]

Dread pirate

[@wongoli]

What’s up Ross being so trusting? I feel like he’s the type of guy to believe there are hot singles in your area.

[@drcommondrate12]

wongoli wongo he was tempted with the offer of Hell Angels. He might be a tech-savant but he lacked of prospectives about human nature.

[@davidr5284]

Incompetent. It was bound to happen, really. The commerce tends to weed out these kinds of people. Everyone knows hits don't have fixed rates, those depend on how the hit transpires, the payments weren't even made with escrow and all before the supposed hit was done. What an amateur.

[@realawesomeperson24]

@@davidr5284 How do you know all this? lmao

[@princessulku]

wongoli wongo HAHAHHAHAHAHAH

[@ollyoxenfrey5417]

Isn't it awesome!!! There's so many single milfs near me!!! And they all wanna fuck!!! They email me all the time!!!

[@irohn]

I did think it to be clearly a scam until RedAndWhite appeared, I don't know exactly what it was, but before I knew it I was like "wait, so all those stories were actually real", and was completely hooked until the end. I think it was the same for DPR. The betrayal at the end that it was all a con was shocking and then hilarious. Like others mentioned it was still a tricky situation difficult to get out of, and that clearly played a part in fooling him (and me), but it's also so ironic that in trying to not be blackmailed he actually gave up twice than was originally asked for; it's just so beautiful, a complete and utter manipulation of emotions, intellect and intentions, a masterpiece dare I say

[@8.5.edibles]

The first two , Friendlychemist, and lucydrop talked the exact same way to me so i also initially thought it was obviously a scam, but yeah something ab redandwhites persona switched it up for me too, his lingo switched up and it definitely didnt have the similarities the first two had, but when redandwhite was avoiding chatting on video ross shouldve knew something was up

[@icep0pp]

I don’t have a shred of sympathy for Ross. He genuinely thought he murdered several people and was ok with that. I don’t even care if that’s not his charge. He’s a pretentious little slime ball and his parents are doing him NO favors by being in such denial. It’s pathetic, really. They’re now scammers themselves.

[@the_lava_wielder6996]

Cringey to hear the barely sociable clinging to these idealistic capitalist "he's just the embodiment of a market force man" as a way to forgive this shitty guy

[@Matthew-qx3dh]

This man straight up baited the whole entire World History fan community

[@johntan5105]

THANK YOU! but it was worth it

[@connorholt2979]

honestly yes

[@Jenkowelten]

He got me

[@aryboss1514]

He got me, but HE DIDN'T. Because I am also a huge internet guy.

[@SmoreLegend]

Came for the world history, stayed for the lulz

[@mortemdecay]

ok but why do hitman requests sound like negotiating art commissions?

[@spring7643]

😂😂😂

[@tonix1993]

kurapikaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[@NorthernGreenEyes]

Bruhhh

[@silariadown5468]

Hahahahah

[@tacomeme429]

"Art requires a certain... cruelty" -some dude from a popular MOBA game who is obsessed with the number 4

[@cheesygoblin]

“We produce a lot of things that would get this video demonetized” made me laugh way too hard

[@Evan2768]

They don't usually deal in hits but they have multiple professional local hitters available within 1 day. How did this not set off any red flags?

[@Jartran72]

RNW:"hi stranger, I am a criminal and have commited multiple murders recently. Even though I know nothing about you and would have to assume you are a cop I will offer you multiple 1st grade murder felonies. All good? Now when are you going to pick me up?" The whole story had more holes than cheese

[@CatholicPiccolo]

The man was inexperienced in this whole type of operation. I would not be surprised if the FBI hit had similar amount of holes in it. Dude's ego high was probably getting the better of him and made him think illogically

[@torcoolguy]

It is mindblowing to me that talking about hits and murders related to drug dealing is cool with youtube, but actually saying the names of drugs is tooooo much.

[@TuberoseKisser]

KZbin is backwards.

[@23mega23]

Shhhhhh don’t say anything YT doesn’t fix anything they just ban the next thing people bring up aswell

[@Thumper68]

Liberal democrats

[@ZeranZeran]

(American here) Aren't american laws fucking stupid when it comes to our media? NO BOOBS! THE NAKED BODY IS A SIN!!!! THE KIDS CAN'T SEE THAT! But people being stabbed and bombed and shot? Yeah that's fine for kids. What the fuck is wrong with our country? Why is America so weird about Nudity on TV, yet also has everyone "secretly" watching porn? It's just strange. I hate Europe for a lot of reasons, but their appreciation and common sense approach toward nudity is something I envy and wish America would follow on. It's the Human body.

[@spinetta0010]

You can still read the drug names

[@filippobrandini9233]

“Can you make it 96 hours? I have big plans for the weekend...” when you are in a middle of a complicated standoff but you still want to show up at your best friends birthday BBQ... 😂

[@creepypastagoblin1950]

Lol. Yeah. The week in question was also the week of Ross Ulbricht's birthday. Damning indeed.

[@Salukis]

Mm yes yummy porkchop

[@kregoryklements6918]

Same thing I thought. Hahahahahh!!!!

[@harrymills2770]

Unreal.

[@Profoundobserver]

That rack of ribs was calling his name

[@madnote43]

This is an absolutely brilliant video on one of the most fascinating true stories I've ever heard. Extremely well done sir!

[@MrSlimSheaD]

I’m a lawyer, and sometimes with criminal cases the Defendant simply refuses to take a plea deal against your advice and you have to go to trial despite not really having a defense. Also remember you’re innocent until proven guilty. Sometimes the best Defense isnt to present your own evidence but to simply say the State hasn’t provided enough evidence to convict me. In my experience that’s usually the argument people who’ve been caught red handed go with.

[@TheTERMlNAT0R]

I’m sure his lawyer thought they had some level of defense….or I believe the prosecution had some evidence that Ross’s lawyers didn’t anticipate?

[@cherrycola1144]

@@TheTERMlNAT0R probably not. There is very rarely evidence that one side does not anticipate… prior to any court proceedings, the prosecution is forced to share all their evidence with the defense (even if the evidence would hurt the prosecution). I’m willing to bet MrSlimSheaD is right, and it was DPR who rejected the deal. The plea bargain was actually very generous - only 10 years for his crimes. I’m willing to bet his lawyer had a hand in organizing that. However, DPR was stupid and kinda full of himself. Plus, he had been planning his defense for a long time. The whole purpose behind the DPR user was so he could argue that the site was not his in the event he got arrested (which he did). It’s almost like he fantasized about getting arrested and then arguing his way out of court… even though any sane lawyer could see DPR’s only chance was getting a good plea deal.

[@sambutton8494]

Okay well I clicked on this expecting some historical travesties about the Chinese trade route but jesus christ I got invested in something I was not expecting

[@heyitsrin6556]

lmaooo i thought that too

[@raksh9]

If you think this is a switch, wait til you visit r/superbowl on reddit. As a non-sports fan, I was very pleasantly surprised.

[@jabby6709]

Thank god I wasn’t the only person expecting a historical video lmao

[@davidlawrence9782]

I thought the same thing as well

[@carsoncarruthers9606]

Me too, I was pleasantly surprised by this though

[@zp5718]

I don’t remember the last time I watched an entire hour+ long video without skipping... great storytelling and narrative skills.

[@caringheart34]

I watched inquisitormaster's 5 hour long video about John Doe with my eyes open about ten times already since 2017, let me say, it was bad.

[@PeterMwangi-pe5uz]

Same here, his narrative skills and keeping us captivated shines through. Some channels even a ten minute video feels like torture

[@maxwell1934]

true

[@cookie123.]

try fredrik knudsen

[@HopeCasias10]

ZP accurate

[@marcuscarana9240]

One of the craziest things is that the last episode of Breaking Bad where Heisenberg finally loses and dies aired on September 29, 2013. Breaking Bad was one of Ross's favorite shows. Ross was arrested on October 1, 2013. That means he was arrested just two days after the final episode was released. It was as if the universe was warning him, foreshadowing his ultimate downfall. And the parallels of Walter White and Ross Ulbritch is so unncanny. Both are incredibly talented, intellectual and educated people, uses their wits to get involved in the black market. Both became millionaires, but ulitmately became their own downfall in the end.

[@Danielle-nz9tn]

Ross’ parents are definitely in denial. They have already decided he is innocent and therefore they can ask “show me the evidence” all they want, but we all know they will just come up with some story about how it’s fake, how it was planted, how he must have been framed, etc. They SHOULD be advocating for him to get some sort of leniency instead of spending the rest of his life in jail without possibility of parole. But to say he should have been acquitted!!?? They are delusional. Just because the people he ordered murdered were never killed doesn’t make him any less dangerous, since he fully believed they were real people.

[@rickykrilovs9508]

So let me get this right, some guy tried to blackmail the owner of silk road for $500k, the owner wanted him killed to stop any info being leaked, so that guy created another account and pretended to be a member of Hell's Angels and faked his own assassination and others, so he could actually scam the owner for even more than he originally planned?

[@sinsoftheswamp8346]

This is why people like him with no social skills or basic understanding of how the crime world works shouldn't be involved in crime(myself included)

[@sinsoftheswamp8346]

@Rich depends on the criminal but usually yes

[@luk7400]

Social engineering 101

[@starry_stelle]

@MrKalashnik0va OK pickle Rick

[@james_gemma]

I hear you on that. I thought Ross Ulbricht was a person with an above normal intelligence. But I was amazed that he could not put all this together and immediately see that he was being scammed, It seemed so obvious to me as I was reading the messages and timelines. I mean come on...Hells Angels!? LMAO. I would have banned all their accounts immediately with all that nonsense.

[@waspstomper6250]

Imagine; You own the biggest online drug market on earth, making millions per week. Your bit coin wallet will eventually be worth multiple BILLIONS of dollars. Then you get caught because a fed stole your laptop using the oldest trick in the book.

[@evaluna122]

Lol I would have expect him to be a smart Mafia boss but bruh got caught so easy

[@tachanka1283]

Real life day z, loose it al

[@chantzmccauley696]

Can We Get A F In Chat?

[@blackdevilwhitedemon]

E

[@okandokandsson2078]

The 'Ole lovers quarrel, gets 'em everytime

[@OliviaRubin9]

The funniest part to me is that the scammer actually fucked up at one point while acting as RedandWhite - they say that they kidnapped FriendlyChemist's partner, not LucyDrop's, at 32:55. And Ulbricht didn't even notice, he just assumes they meant LucyDrop's partner! The scammer definitely isn't a great person by any stretch (based on the fact that they seem to have screwed over plenty of end customers as well), but I'd be lying if I didn't say I got quite a bit of schadenfreude from watching Ulbricht walk directly into this trap.

[@twinzzlers]

Well the customers were probably libertarians so I don't feel too bad.

[@IAmStillHere-ws4jc]

I caught that too! Adding to the earlier slip-up with “real” Lucydrop asking how DPR knows Friendly Chemist… this guy’s really not paying attention.

[@jonathanbailie]

This is absolutely one of *the* most interesting videos/docs on KZbin. Very well done, and what a crazy story!

[@littledeath9540]

How Ross was caught straight up sounds like a skit from snl

[@reesetorwad8346]

It wouldn't even be hard to render that method useless. If you take proper precautions, somebody "just grabbing your phone/tablet/laptop and running away" would be laughably easy to defeat. In a variety of ways.

[@gavriloprincipgaming7857]

Me who wanted to learn about the ancient Mongolian trade route: *anger*

[@adityarai5367]

Me too.

[@curtislowe4577]

That YT recommended this to me who watches many history videos tells me that YT's AI is either not very sharp and didn't know that this video was not about the dangers of the ancient trading route or it is not simply sharp but has become self-aware and enjoys displaying its newfound sense of humor by recommending this video to history aficionados.

[@markusTegelane]

@@curtislowe4577 nah, computers are too stupid to understand context or humour

[@asadullahkhan1004]

Just read books about silk road.😂😂

[@goodguycg]

I was thinking the same

[@democracyboys]

Sounds like a flaw in all the SR type sites. The fact that any dealer could blackmail the admin with lists of customers. I guess it’s only a few dealers like Ellingson that would be in a position to do this but it still seems possible with other sites too.

[@noahconley7514]

facts

[@mrrchh]

I love the how the pure friendship and mutual respect was created in chats between R&W and DPR ❤

[@2good4soccer]

He scammed him tho

[@sw5646]

Yes! Me too, I am puzzled by their politeness. I mean, these are men that torture and kill others (ostensibly).

[@atypicalpinetree4212]

New idea for a yaoi fanfic ❤❤❤

[@Funnylittleman]

This is the scariest thing you've posted so far. Getting mixed up with people like this sounds like absolute hell.

[@TheSapphyre]

@RWDS scamming criminals out of money is stupid and greedy, but is it really something that you should pay for with your life? That's not justice. If Ross was the one who ordered those hits (3 of which were of people who had hardly any connection to him, and no direct connection at all), and since he almost certainly was, he definitely deserves that sentence. He's no more than an intelligent and power hungry disease.

[@homegrowntwinkie]

@@TheSapphyre You're right. It's stupid and Greedy. Is it really something you'd want to pay for with your life? That's what Friendly Chemist and Lucy Drop should've been thinking. It was their own Graves they dug. I was involved in the drug trade with extremely scary people by a normie's standards. But they never hurt me... Why? because I always conducted good business and made sure things were good. Ross was in the right, because he was being extorted, blackmailed, and his business was being threatened, as well as many other vendors. Ross was in the right. And Originally he just wanted to scare the guy so he'd leave him alone and quit trying to fuck him over. Sounds pretty sane to me. Also, I am aware that this is strictly a hypothetical, since LucyDrop, FriendlyChemist, and RedandWhite were all the same person and no one actually got killed.

[@CarrotConsumer]

@@homegrowntwinkie His business was illegal and shouldn't have existed at all. He should have cashed out and left it behind, not attempt to murder. No one was in the right here. He played a stupid game and he won a prize worthy of his actions.

[@DisappointingPorn]

It really was. 😳 Chilling in how cold and easy everything was said. It’s amazing the shit people get caught up in, the shit they do to each other, the shit they do to get themselves killed...FriendlyChemist threatened a lot of lives. Though what he actually knew had little significance, he himself didn’t know that. He was willing to sacrifice others for his greed, not even for his family’s life. If I heard the threat over my family’s life was lifted, or at least lessened, I’d be so goddamn grateful. Time to hide. But he persisted. People get killed in this shit all the fucking time, it makes me sick. And they just look like regular dudes. This seriously terrified me.

[@homegrowntwinkie]

@@CarrotConsumer Yeah, but no. Legal actions hold no ground when it comes to what's morally right. Drugs shouldn't be illegal. If they weren't, then this kind of shit wouldn't happen at all. I'm really not going to go in depth over it, strictly because I've done this a million different times, and there's so many fallacies to point out about it, that it would take a book to explain it all. DPR Was right by having a market which was online, anonymous, and way safer than buying drugs in person. He created a network that he made a cut from. Simple business tactics. If you don't want it to exist(and there are literally millions of black market tor sites) then you decriminalize drug use. But, it's not that way, so these actions come with the territory. Now, let's say your child or something is held for ransom... And the police won't help you for whatever reason. What do you do? Whatever you can do to get your child back. He built something, only to have someone scam him for a portion of it. He was in the right. Someone was attacking his business, clientele, etc.

[@kevinkev417]

Damn homie was ordering murders like I order underwear on Amazon. I take the 5 for $20 pack every time.

[@garyball6986]

No man it was the wish list

[@gaint6288]

Lmfaooo

[@macalloway1]

This dude don’t order nothing but fake hits if you include the fbi one. There’s a lot of nuance in how people talk and type and it’s almost like a fingerprint. Who did he think he was talking to? A Harvard graduate criminal mastermind. Who would this person have to be to have the combination of skills to do all the crimes they was talking about and write detailed messages in that manner. It sounds too noir fiction

[@elcomediante7717]

"everytime?" MAAAAANNNN stop LYING You know us as men buy one or 2 packs of boxer briefs and we will have them for like 2-3yrs before getting New ones hahaaha My fault im just ME I tell it how it is hahHaha

[@HistoricalShark]

Honestly, I feel like you’re the only creator outside of maybe yesterworld and like 2 others who actually puts thought and care into putting out a truthful and direct mostly unbiased documentary on events. Good on you man. Wish I had money to donate, but I don’t. Just know that I really enjoy your content.

[@cuh5018]

This is by far the best video i've ever seen on youtube. Just came back to rewatch it and its truly amazing.

[@BDtetra]

Maybe the real Dread Pirate Roberts were the friends we made along the way.

[@suckmyb0222]

BDtetra one piece reference? Lmfao

[@FanFicnic]

I literally dropped my phone from laughing

[@vertexed5540]

He should have quoted wesley in the court case when they asked if he was DPR

[@neophyticSeraphim]

no i want my fucking drugs

[@asbestosfish_]

BDtetra That is _not_ how you use an apostrophe.

[@DrHotelMario]

It's like if Breaking Bad was a Discord server

[@trainmaniacstudios8216]

Was literally thinking the same thing Haha

[@connorowen1560]

Did you know what I was thinking before I even thought about it?

[@MrUkulele671]

Best comment

[@elijahpepe]

At the time Breaking Bad was pretty trendy so I would have imagined that Ross thought of himself as Walter, and that's probably part of the reason you think that way.

[@joshuagtz95]

@@elijahpepe The book American Kingpin tells the story of how Ross made the Silk Road. There's quite a few parallels between him and Walter

[@masterofwit339]

Wow man. I watched a doc on this somewhere and it was good but this video is insanely great. I just discovered your channel and have already suggested it to so many.

[@piikes2627]

put this video on expecting it to act as background noise while i finish a few essays, and wow. completely hooked. loved everything about the delivery and just thoroughly enjoyed. amazing watch

[@anomaly3340]

Is it me or are DPR and R&W surprisingly polite to one another. “My mistake, I should have checked with you before sending all four hit men.” Lol

[@emir2080]

LMAOOO LIKE THEYRE TALKING ABOUT SENDING COOKIES 😭💀

[@DavidHenderson1]

I think we forget that everyone's human, including the bad guys. Bad guys have feelings (tho, a lack of sympathy towards their victims) and show politeness too.

[@mzaki8503]

because R&W is Canadian :D

[@KraZSK]

They just tryna do business, plus they both hate scammers equally as much lmao

[@anomaly3340]

@@KraZSK well, one of them is a scammer

[@paigeharris3821]

disappointing, I was all geared up to talk trash about Marco Polo.

[@hana-bh8de]

duuude saame, i thought this was about THE silk road....but this is interesting too ig

[@seaweed6668]

What's about marco polo

[@PointNemo9]

@@seaweed6668 He was a writer and explorer who allegedly travelled to East Asia via the Silk road

[@AmberAmber]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Funniest comments thread yet (amongst MANY funnies!)

[@jerseybound717]

omg i think you just won every comment section ever. i really hope everyone does understand this as history even recent like ww2 history is being forgotten, oh man my stomach hurts this was such bad dry humor that it hit the nail on th head in one strike i'm dead

[@aicsynthesizer]

hells angels on a dark web market?? that's like the mafia selling on newspapers lol

[@Malphas38th]

Man that first mistake of not realizing RealLucyDrop was a fake was fatal. If he had just noticed they mentioned FriendlyChemist despite him not being mentioned maybe he could’ve saved himself lol

[@alexduran1711]

Oh my god, this is basically a documentary

[@calebsherman886]

It's amazing, isn't it?

[@KandiBabyy]

Caleb Sherman YESSSSSSS!

[@dns7095]

I’m not mad

[@ewok47]

only the BEST documentary

[@something6510]

Shane Dawson should take notes.

[@blackwersus]

I'm just amazed by the Hell's Angels' politeness and spelling.

[@blackwersus]

Oh wait nvm, that's why

[@RealRotkohl]

@@blackwersus LOOOL best comment!

[@kayel2849]

and tech savvy too!

[@Ryan_scott15]

The hells angles do some crazy shit but iv had family members say that they are polite and genuinely like to help people

[@Babyvalkyie]

@@Ryan_scott15 yupp. My dad has ridden and worked on Harleys since I was a wee lass and the ones I've got to meet were nice 😇

[@sayanneogy3079]

Genuinely one of the best videos on the internet.

[@dangofango2780]

This is amazing, loving all your content in all your accounts, keep doing what you doing 👍👍

[@BioHazard634]

The real twist would be if even DreadPirateRoberts was just another one of this dude's aliases and everything was just him talking to himself.

[@kimgysen10]

And then ending up in prison for talking to himself like a real bozo lmao.

[@tempzira]

That's some shutter island shit HAHAHAHA

[@cbracing808]

Well if you can believe that dread was another alias of this same dude and Ross was a fall guy, then that was actually a pretty good idea. I assume this guy is serving time for drugs and blackmail, which I alot better than going down as the silk road mastermind which guarentee gets life in prison..... plus if that's that case, he probably has millions in bitcoin hidden because nobody looked that hard after they found ross..... I mean obviously Ross did this but that is an interesting alternative reality.

[@utilitarian]

I honeslty expected this to be the case. IUnless I missed it, the narrator highlighted when "RealLucyDrop" mentioned "FriendlyChemist" for the first time that DPR hadn't mentioned FC to RLC but no more came of it?

[@zimmermb64]

Love this…

[@undercoverpossum2085]

As a history nerd, I have once again been bamboozled.

[@benadrylsmoke5481]

it is history, just not that far back

[@harrylane4]

@@benadrylsmoke5481 if I had a Reddit account id whoosh you so hard bro

[@benadrylsmoke5481]

@@harrylane4 doesn't work bro considering 50% of my humor comes from taking things literally so r/woooosh

[@VixieTSQ]

relatable

[@victorklemets7192]

@@benadrylsmoke5481 r/saved

[@chickennuggetthedog]

This was so well put together. Thank you so much. I enjoyed this a lot.

[@TheAleqzi]

Coming back to this video, had to say, that still to this day this has been one of my absolute favorite videos on KZbin. Thanks!

[@acreepykiwi6788]

I clicked thinking this was a history of the trade routes connecting Asia and Europe between ~200BC and ~1700AD

[@rx500android]

Same

[@jekanbg]

You're not the only one 🙂

[@jeffreytoman5202]

Same here

[@cash3394]

Your school project will be alot more exciting if you write about this

[@imposter-982]

Then you’re dumb

[@bushidobrown9857]

LMFAO avoiding demonization must have been like walking through a minefield

[@suprcrzy]

"Tony76 AKA Canuck"... Ummm, I don't think his name was simply "Canuck" 😂

[@nealdamkjer192]

"I walk through minefields...YEEEAAAHHHHH!" - Keith Flint (Prodigy)

[@nealdamkjer192]

@@suprcrzy GD you can't say nipple??? YT sucks

[@alial-issa6893]

Karl Dennis lucy in the sky with Tony

[@NorthernKitty]

I think you meant "demonetization"... unless you were talking about Ross Ulbrecht? In which case I think it's impossible NOT to demonize someone who puts out hits, so... yeah. A minefield either way.

[@vinnyhorgan7186]

Honestly, one of the best KZbin videos I've ever seen, well done!!!

[@itsryno532]

Came here for a documentary about the road 2000 years ago and got this, still earned yourself a sub this was incredible

[@craig4android]

dude this is the best recommend KZbin ever gave to me.

[@junobifrons2345]

Brah totally

[@painkillerz1723]

Daily Blog visit buypainkillerz.com

[@snatchpro3674]

Same here.

[@andreapinardi1672]

@@snatchpro3674 another here

[@angelsantos7033]

Hahahaha can't wait to watch all these series bout the dark realm of our world

[@NoName-ny1bt]

Friendly chemist graduated from Nigerian school of princes. He’s playing chess 10 moves ahead.

[@dimmacommunication]

LOL he found 1 million he lost long time ago

[@KatJ3st]

Please send mony to Banks of Nigeria

[@deadonentry]

166$ btc

[@fliora4177]

4d chess

[@marcellopodhoranyi9841]

@@fliora4177 *5d

[@Ajwct]

Anytime I’m bored and have nothing to do I rewatch this masterpiece of a video.

[@Tsobanhss]

So we all here from the "Trying to find a good KZbin video" tiktok huh

[@thesalmans]

Holy shit, a brother in arms, I see.... I've been on a video essay binge for the past week or 2 now. It all started with that "What the Internet Did to Garfield" video essay. Any ones you've see that you care to recommend? Not a big fan of the gaming ones, myself.

[@anonymousyoutuber1405]

Everyone says its terrirying but it just sounds like mafia fanfiction lmao

[@ashleyshim2078]

Lol😂

[@Holygiant]

It's pretty disturbing until the reveal that it was all a scam. I was thinking the whole time that everything redandwhite said seemed way too Hollywood, but I figured crazier and more fucked up things have happened and the presentation made it seem like it was real. I was thinking, "oh shit, someone actually got lured to a warehouse and murdered, for real." Then it all adds up.

[@ZeranZeran]

It's the implication.

[@anonymousyoutuber1405]

@@Holygiant i dont know....i just couldnt get over how "hollywood" it sounded. I know the guy really thought he was killing someone, but I was so distracted by the fact that i KNEW it was fake by how phony it sounded that it just ended up being about a guy getting tricked out of a lot of money to me.

[@xxxgpakos6237]

fr

[@6000hall]

Why the hell would you walk away from a computer while logged in to your multi-million dollar startup?

[@dustinblack2006]

It's probably a stretch by the fbi to cover their asses about how they actually acquired the laptop.

[@MemberNo2]

Ulbricht didn't leave his computer. He simply turned his head to look at the commotion that was happening behind him. An FBI agent quickly walked up to Ulbricht's laptop (from a direction outside Ulbricht's peripheral vision), grabbed the laptop and then tossed it to a fellow agent. It all happened in a couple of seconds.

[@derekk.2263]

Why would you go to a library to sell drugs.

[@billtheone3467]

@@derekk.2263 public network

[@6000hall]

@@derekk.2263 For the thrill

[@the_compilement]

ive been ignoring this video for years so its about time i watch everything

[@selenasmith2248]

I'm so shocked about the story that you are presenting I did not know that any of this was going on. I want to say I thank you for taking the time to do these videos to educate those who are in the world that these things were going on right under our eyes

[@md.niamulahadchowdhury6407]

Plot twist: Ross was DreadPirateRoberts, FriendlyChemist, and RedAndWhite. This was Fight Club. It was all in his head.

[@bounzig]

You mean Fight club, right?

[@md.niamulahadchowdhury6407]

@@bounzig Damn, you're right.

[@gabriel-qz9ps]

F**** C***

[@Monasaurus_Rex]

I hate that I laughed hard at this for a while

[@kdawson020279]

Hey, the first rule is that you don't talk about it. The second rule is that you don't talk about it. I jokingly asked my wife of almost 19 years now to marry me when she said she loved that film. 15 months later, I did. I am Jack's midlife crisis these days.

[@jamiesachtleben2946]

This guy must play GTA V roleplay servers like a God. Pulling off three different identities perfectly

[@zeppkfw]

When your years of GTA V roleplaying experience makes you a millionaire.

[@jeobonilla]

Wtf... this is a thing?

[@zeppkfw]

@@jeobonilla You must be new to the internet my boy?

[@jeobonilla]

ZeppKF Yeah day one... idk how I missed gta role play 🙄

[@ColeFo]

jeobonilla you poor soul

[@taranjeetsinghmonga4749]

I came here from that video on IG

[@corbin9842]

Bro really said don’t trust the trial then uses the trial to “disprove” something 😭😭

[@LampyGames]

So basically his legal defense boiled down to "it was just a prank bro"

[@ViralSavage_]

Lmaoo

[@codrinmoisa4290]

It was a social experiment bruh

[@jaidynpeffer4242]

logan paul walks out of the back rooms of the court IT JUST A PRANK BRO

[@maybeja]

Why you mad bruh just a prank bruh

[@ducktape4502]

Check the documentary about this. This video is kinda biased. The agents that stole the money have a bigger part in all of it. Same with the bitcoin exchange guy

[@dialga236]

lucy drop sounds like a really good lemon flavored candy

[@AfterAcid]

Dialga236 just dose it on a really good lemon flavored candy

[@ZeranZeran]

It sounds like a really good name for a vendor.. oh shit.. Of.. candy!

[@brocowsci]

love a drop of lucy of my lemon head and friends

[@Kryterior]

Lucy drop is lsd. I activate antiwoooosh sheilds

[@_RobBanks]

zeranzeran it’s Lucy- u don’t know what Lucy is?

[@futuristic-]

It’s my third or fourth time watching this, it’s like a good movie, you always can rewatch it

[@tzvrquinny2965]

Imagine giving a mf you don't know 900k$ of product for 200k$ 😭😭😭

[@Spagneti]

My favorite drug is "a lot of things that would get this video demonetized"

[@brocowsci]

fuck yeah big love for unmentioned drugs

[@AmberAmber]

@@brocowsci don't mind'm now & then myself.

[@willowFFMPEG]

That's some hard stuff man. You should be very moderate with that

[@TheUglyMan]

I get high with these almost every weekend

[@CiDK]

You telling me the feds got his laptop by using the "look over there!" trick?

[@cylemons8099]

Even if he ignored the couple they would have tried something else later anyway. When the government is behind you and you dont know it, getting caught is just a matter of time.

[@Johnny-tw5pr]

@@cylemons8099 Death note style

[@TommyGunz]

@@generalhypocrisy1876 yeah it's called making sure the Gov't gets their cut, and you always play ball with them, and never piss them off. They're the biggest criminals of all, and have no issue working with and allowing other criminals to continue their business as long as you play by their rules and dont cause to many issues or draw to much attention..

[@poeticdisaster7500]

Yup.

[@generalhypocrisy1876]

@@TommyGunz the thing with criminals are that they have a way of getting you and there’s always a way out. If someone speak with the right people, not those that thinks “sell sell money money” but those that are serious about it, you might be able to take from the government instead of kissing their ass. And on top of that we are on the good and the more intelligent side, there goes a lot more IQ and thought into doing drug dealing for the people that for example being a policeman because you want to show your glock. So if we find the right people we will Bruce lee those motherfuckers

[@josephrohland5604]

Such a fun & inventive story and you tell it sooo well!

[@JaydnKearsarge]

Not sure what I expected when starting this video. I knew it wasn't going to be about an ancient trade route, but I wasn't expecting this either. Well done though, I don't think anyone has ever made reading a bunch of other people emails for an hour so interesting!

[@MuchWhittering]

The fact that FriendlyChemist was supposedly murdered on the 1st of April is an excellent coincidence.

[@user-my9ok1nz1j]

high caliber trolling

[@dazaway]

I want to laugh and not at the same time

[@BahhBahhBrownSheep]

@ghost Yeah I'll take a bucket, too

[@QVlogs.]

@@NikoBellic20080 op

[@twat3789]

@@NikoBellic20080 you got any of the hard stuff like strepsils?

[@crisissage]

That friendly chemist guy and redandwhite stuff actually blew my mind. Literally played 10D chess and destroyed that guy.

[@ewoknips5154]

Yea he did, it was like checkmate in 5 lol. Right before he started explaining the twist it just clicked in my head Shutter Island style and it totally blew my mind lol. That dude's epic

[@abuasraf5273]

Amazing move.

[@AverageAlien]

it started off as 4D chess and ended up being 10D

[@Ren-mu1tq]

He was too naive

[@abpanda1596]

@@Ren-mu1tq I agree. Who the fk sends 650k dollars without actually doing his research. For a smart guy he was unbelievably stupid.

[@larrybaldwin7877]

Oh so this guy gets 2 life sentences in prison and 40 years no parole but Mr. fucking Swirl gets 5 years? dude WTF

[@DJR4TL3Y]

It’s crazy to think there really is another world of people who all actively live in the dark web, and its so underground stories like this really feel like the tip of the ice berg with how deep things really go there

[@ReddoFreddo]

"We import a lot of things that would get this video demonetized and import a lot of things that would get this video demonetized in massive bulk amounts." had me dying.

[@N.Nocturne]

In case anyone is wondering, 28:55

[@hieatus1039]

If you read carefully you can still read it tho.

[@woundedsanity]

@@hieatus1039 shhhh! xD

[@phrax6767]

Ross looks like the last guy I’d expect to be running a multimillion dollar drug market.

[@xXxRainingxNukesxXx]

It’s always the people you think would least be involved in stuff

[@comediavietii1245]

multiB

[@DefNotMyBurner]

That’s like 90% of these dark net markets. Only nerds know how to do this shit, ain’t gone find a tatted up guido or blood on this shit

[@itssnotsobad]

It makes me sad how most people only mention the drugs even though sex trafficking was super popular on the website too.

[@DCM88]

BS. There was no sex or porn sold in the SK. Weapons, drugs and airplanes were the big ones

[@3.-_7---_739]

Idk why tf i came here, actually wanting to know about the silk road thousands of years ago.

[@mitchkroener]

I think the thing that made the whole scam really work was the fact that the “original” blackmailer was threatening to release the personal information of other users and potentially steal from them as well. Obviously, it’s insane that he got involved in any of this murder for hire stuff, but I can also see how Ulbricht could justify it to himself by saying that he wasn’t just protecting himself, but a bunch of other people as well. Obviously it’s incredibly immoral, but I can imagine how a certain kind of person who wouldn’t do anything like this in the real world could go down that line if thinking.

[@NurseCarnivore]

so glad this was randomly recommended to me. so fucking interesting

[@gillhammer333]

NurseCarnivore EXACTLY!

[@NarcolepticNerdProductions]

Agreed!

[@popdelix581]

Saame maybe we're being targeted to investigate into some new "silk road" iam an avid tripper.

[@NurseCarnivore]

Explosive Joseph avid tripper? 🤔 tell me more 🤓

[@popdelix581]

@@NurseCarnivore dont think too deep into it. means i trip avidly. If you dont understand my terminology you need more fun in your life.

[@MohamedSalah-cg3is]

IMAGINE a guy reading emails is much more entertaining than hollywood's action movies !!! What a channel !

[@officialslaytovenmusic]

real lifes a trip lol

[@plaguerat7015]

Ok you’re kind of exaggerating here I’d probably rather watch a Hollywood action movie

[@MohamedSalah-cg3is]

@@plaguerat7015 I really did enjoy this video THAT much. Normally i might lose focus while watching a mediocre movie. but that one had me focused through out the whole thing. obviously the level of enjoyment might vary from a person to another.

[@lightwalker1751]

bro that plot twist at the end blew my mind

[@valskraacapo720]

@@lightwalker1751 That the hits/accounts was not real?

[@4jesus1981]

For a person Barely Sociable you did a whole lotta talking. Great job! Neat research.