The DARK Side of Truman Capote & How He BETRAYED His Swans [Documentary]

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Fabulous, Fierce & Feisty Women In History

Fabulous, Fierce & Feisty Women In History

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@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 9 ай бұрын
If you would like to see long videos like this one more often, let me know! Thanks for watching!
@jaclynholland-strauss7054
@jaclynholland-strauss7054 9 ай бұрын
You possess the perfect voice for narration. Wonderfully informative video, also.
@timnicholas1832
@timnicholas1832 9 ай бұрын
I wouldn't mind long videos, especially if they are as interesting as this one.
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 9 ай бұрын
@jaclynholland-strauss7054 Thank you for the positive and inspiring feedback!
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 9 ай бұрын
@timnicholas1832 Glad to hear it. I am leaning towards doing more long videos and appreciate your encouraging feedback.
@meredithguarducci809
@meredithguarducci809 9 ай бұрын
Definitely... You're really good
@cissiepierce664
@cissiepierce664 9 ай бұрын
Truman Capote was a vicious little toad! Talented, but totally self absorbed and self centered. He infiltrated and exposed the deepest feelings and thoughts of his “friends”. With a “friend” like Capote who needs enemies?
@4MAGA
@4MAGA 9 ай бұрын
If he were not famous no one would delve into his history trying to explain away his horrid behavior
@Foxiepawstotti
@Foxiepawstotti 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely, I would have said something similar but have already been suspended for speaking my mind, your opening made me laugh its so true!
@imhere653
@imhere653 9 ай бұрын
​@@Foxiepawstotti Could be worse. Capote was ditched and vilified. You hold your head up high. We'd have missed out on a lot of great stuff if it weren't for the rebels that came before us and thankfully, exist among us. If you're fortunate enough to have the tits it takes to speak up and own it, luxuriate in your rarity, gurrrl!
@EarlHebert-c8w
@EarlHebert-c8w 8 ай бұрын
​@@FoxiepawstottiI just did a 12° stretch in YT jail. Free speech does not exist in KZbinania..
@WobblesandBean
@WobblesandBean 8 ай бұрын
​@@Foxiepawstotti KZbin truly is the worst.
@jeanne2b2b22
@jeanne2b2b22 9 ай бұрын
I agree with ellebassa above. All men who have disasterous relationships with their mothers, subconsciencously take it out on the females in their lives, teachers, friends, wives, and even their daughters. If and when a man truely forgives his mother, is when he can see each female for who they truely are. The gift of forgiveness is the best gift to yourself.
@JS-ti8ny
@JS-ti8ny 9 ай бұрын
This is why what Capote did to Anne Woodward imo is tantamount to murder. Capote is a classic sociopath who knew precisely how and what to do to get into his “swans” heads. Remember men and especially women were MUCH simpler then. It was much easier for a wormy self absorbed narcissist with a deep seated hatred towards his mother to lurk these women and learn what triggers them. Capote, in spite of or because of his diminutive nature caused these women to completely let down their guard, a massive mistake with a Sociopath/Psychopath like Capote. Capote targeted Anne Woodward!
@canopusstar5157
@canopusstar5157 9 ай бұрын
That is sadly true. I had my own run-in with such a sociopath. He’s sitting in jail now.
@caroleminke6116
@caroleminke6116 9 ай бұрын
Narcs can’t forgive anyone because they take no responsibility & are incapable of loving anyone because they loathe their true nature
@Foxiepawstotti
@Foxiepawstotti 9 ай бұрын
Thats true to an extent but theres also jealousy and, I believe, thats what drove this toxic little creep more than wounds inflicted by his mother.
@spikesgirl9371
@spikesgirl9371 9 ай бұрын
I don't agree with all men. There are very few absolutes.
@robertafierro5592
@robertafierro5592 9 ай бұрын
When you base your friendship on those you Hate, you will implode. My dog said that years ago..
@panninggazz5244
@panninggazz5244 8 ай бұрын
smart dog
@vikki4real
@vikki4real 8 ай бұрын
Your dog, is wise, beyond dog years! 🤗💜💜
@markhooper4532
@markhooper4532 6 ай бұрын
Winnie Wallace..Dog are talking now!!
@mares3841
@mares3841 9 ай бұрын
Credit for IN COLD BLOOD should have had Harper Lee as the co-author. They went on location together and it was she who was trusted by the locals so that they shared their knowledge with her. He took all of her work and all of the glory.
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 9 ай бұрын
I agree! Thanks for joining the conversation!
@HarrietKay-jp8qj
@HarrietKay-jp8qj 9 ай бұрын
Poor Harper got Nothing....😂 o lord...
@pageribe2399
@pageribe2399 9 ай бұрын
I was going to add that, too. Glad somebody already pointed that out.
@timothyfreeseha4056
@timothyfreeseha4056 9 ай бұрын
I agree.
@androlibre9661
@androlibre9661 8 ай бұрын
really.....that would make interesting deep dive. Ive only read the book, never cared about the back story behind the writing of it, didnt even know Harper Lee was a part of it
@LKre-vi5oq
@LKre-vi5oq 9 ай бұрын
He was a social zero, the swans took him in. He was desperate to become a member of their vaunted circles, and they accepted him. After his savage, thinly veiled written assault on them, they turned on him en.mssse, and it shattered him. Regardless of the viciousness and cruelty of his attack, I'm always stunned at how shocked he was when they shut him out. What an absolute idiot he was.
@tilesetter1953
@tilesetter1953 8 ай бұрын
Why on earth would anyone would want to be with those ignorant, self absorbed, frivolous people, I will never understand!
@TracyD2
@TracyD2 7 ай бұрын
I guess he thought he was that charming.
@Madmen604
@Madmen604 4 ай бұрын
His mother aspired to social heights but lost everything and killed herself in the end. The swans were as close as he got to mothering . He gained status on his own as a writer. But his connection to the swan circle protected him from the worst of homosexual abuses I think.
@bernadettekavanagh9984
@bernadettekavanagh9984 8 ай бұрын
After a messed-up loveless childhood like he had, and the fact there was no therapy of any kind it's hardly surprising he turned out like he did. His talent for writing and surrounding himself with the troubled high class, reflected his past.
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 ай бұрын
Yes, I did a video on his childhood kzbin.info/www/bejne/rl7HYZ6Yhr93rKc
@BeverlyLedbetter-cb1971
@BeverlyLedbetter-cb1971 5 күн бұрын
He didn't like women. That's another point!🤫
@tracytrebilcox
@tracytrebilcox 9 ай бұрын
The feuds didn't destroy his career, but his addictions did.
@NinjaGrrrl7734
@NinjaGrrrl7734 9 ай бұрын
They both did. It wasn't one or the other: life is rarely so simple. Part of the problem of trying to discuss this is we haven't ever found a language that would be equal to the complexity of describing human interactions well.
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 9 ай бұрын
@NinjaGrrrl7734 Well said!
@DLR1144
@DLR1144 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely! The world was waiting with bated breath for him to write and create again. He could of done anything. He was no longer socializing in a group of people, he wasn't shun from the arts and the public by any means....in fact quite the contrary.
@Odanti
@Odanti 9 ай бұрын
Truman was never destroyed. We are still talking about him. And people will continue to read his books. ❤️🙏❤️
@robertafierro5592
@robertafierro5592 9 ай бұрын
I was thinking the Same Thing!! I think he had Liver Disease. No wonder he was depressed! When you're on the way out, of course, your mental state suffers! I guess he felt he had nothing to lose. Things change. Life changes. People come and go. Sometimes it's a blessing.
@ellebassa9288
@ellebassa9288 9 ай бұрын
The wounds from his mother beld into his friendship with the Swans,and he took revenge on the swans as a way of taking revenge on his mother.
@mizfrenchtwist
@mizfrenchtwist 9 ай бұрын
@ellebassa9288.......no excuse , he's not the only one , who's came up under those circumstances . seems his biggest cross to bear ,was his appearance🤨🤨🤨🤨.................
@ellebassa9288
@ellebassa9288 9 ай бұрын
@mizfrenchtwist I'm not using that as an excuse i'm just saying that as an observation, In no way am I excusing his behavior i'm just saying this is probably why he did what he did.
@mizfrenchtwist
@mizfrenchtwist 9 ай бұрын
@@ellebassa9288.........i see , he was a twisted little man , nobody's friend..........
@jewels3895
@jewels3895 9 ай бұрын
Narcissist Gay
@caroleminke6116
@caroleminke6116 9 ай бұрын
Narcissistic personality disorder
@ratso4443
@ratso4443 9 ай бұрын
He was scarred from childhood and very self-destructive. Success, money, fame were the last thing he needed.
@princerupert6161
@princerupert6161 9 ай бұрын
They were the women he always wanted to be.. To quote wilde... Each man kills the thing he loves... In capotes case, he did it with a pen.
@Kari.F.
@Kari.F. 8 ай бұрын
Every DAMAGED man. And every damaged woman for that matter. They can't really love the way mentally healthy people do.
@catherinegearhart2102
@catherinegearhart2102 9 ай бұрын
I suspect that Babe Paley thought attaining “perfection” would result in happiness. She never realized that happiness doesn’t come from others; it comes from within.
@caroleminke6116
@caroleminke6116 9 ай бұрын
All narcissists are perfectionists & only have black or white thinking
@WobblesandBean
@WobblesandBean 8 ай бұрын
It's pretty hard to do that when you're a woman in 1950. Women couldn't even open their own bank account until the 1970s. They were completely dependent on men for money.
@ShelleyinBoston
@ShelleyinBoston 2 ай бұрын
@@WobblesandBean. Amen. I believe Babe was a smart woman trapped in a system that convinced her she wasn’t worth anything if she wasn’t beautiful and submissive
@visualdog
@visualdog 9 ай бұрын
Great deep dive into the psyche and history of Truman and his swans! Can't believe there was another chapter - Yachts and things! Thanks for the link and for all your hard work!
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for letting me know the feedback. I am going to do more long videos!
@dawnfalvey6766
@dawnfalvey6766 9 ай бұрын
I believe Lee Radziwill took the side of Gore Vidal because his mother (Nina Gore) was at one time married to Hugh Auchincloss (Lee and Jackie’s stepfather). Although they aren’t related by blood both Lee and Jackie’s mother and Gore Vidal’s mother were both married to Hugh Auchincloss. Talk about awkward. Gore, Jackie, and Lee shared the same stepfather.
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 9 ай бұрын
Interesting. Didn't know that. Thanks for adding to the conversation!
@JoJoDelBosque
@JoJoDelBosque 9 ай бұрын
Was that the relation? Thank you! I knew they were connected somehow.
@mikimeadows
@mikimeadows 8 ай бұрын
Gore Vidal, another author whose work was termites to social stability.
@richardmyers6075
@richardmyers6075 7 ай бұрын
When Keith Richard found out Lee Radziwell and Truman Capote were following them in their 1972 tour he was less than impressed. He saw them as interlopers. He banged on Truman Capote hotel door and left a note that said, "In Cold Ketchup" written in, what else, ketchup.
@foxibot
@foxibot 8 ай бұрын
He made Jackie Kennedy’s sister Lee mad because she confided to him she was jealous of her own sister. And he told everyone.
@anaibarangan4908
@anaibarangan4908 7 ай бұрын
Anyone who attended Jackie Kennedy's sister in stores in NYC, knew how absolutely full of herself she was, and how miserable was and how mistreated other people.
@Lemon_N555
@Lemon_N555 Ай бұрын
Lee had reason to be jealous. After her (Lee's) divorce, she was dating Onassis with the hope of marrying him. Onassis was in their orbit; all part of the jetset crowx. Then Jackie swept in and stole him. Onassis loved playing 1 sister against the other. Onassis 'bought" Jackie and the rest is history.
@garycolton6522
@garycolton6522 8 ай бұрын
There is an old saying. ,Glamour evaporates under close scrutiny!:
@panninggazz5244
@panninggazz5244 8 ай бұрын
I used to hang out with a kid who was desperate to mow his lawn....we were in Berkeley in the 1980s, and this young man had some fantasy that if he could become Truman's lawn mower guy that Truman may help him publish his punk rock memoir book....
@GreenHeet
@GreenHeet 4 ай бұрын
How ridiculous
@Foxy88444
@Foxy88444 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@panninggazz5244
@panninggazz5244 3 ай бұрын
@@GreenHeetit was a great story! Adorable 18 yr old-ish “twink” pitching this idea! Different times. Famous folks who inspired and influenced us were far far far away and it took months to even years to find out details about them. No Instagram then! Made for a more captivating stories and pipe dreams hopes and …
@manichispanic5234
@manichispanic5234 Ай бұрын
I think he was offering the wrong kind of job
@panninggazz5244
@panninggazz5244 Ай бұрын
@@manichispanic5234 yup!
@fasteddie9055
@fasteddie9055 8 ай бұрын
Truman Capote is portrayed on screen in the classic 1998 movie ''54 '' . He plays a very popular and active member of the Studio 54 fast-paced crowd.
@narrowroad62
@narrowroad62 9 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this episode. One thing that wasn’t mentioned about Lee Radziwill and Jackie Kennedy - Lee had been dating Aristotle Onassis for YEARS and he had refused to marry her. Jackie swooped in and stole Aristotle from Lee. It’s a miracle that Lee spoke to Jackie ever again.
@joanfourie1753
@joanfourie1753 8 ай бұрын
Hilarious
@denisecraig3548
@denisecraig3548 8 ай бұрын
Most people forget Jackie married Onassis for the money. He “gave her” a million dollars to marry him and was in the process of filing for divorce when he died. He thought he could “buy” her, but the price was too high (when he realized his money was all she wanted). She Wouldn’t even stay in the same country he was in. When he was dying, Jackie had to fly from NY, but “opps” arrived too late. He’d died.
@basicallyno1722
@basicallyno1722 3 ай бұрын
Lee forgave Truman after his transgressions. I think Lee was mostly non-confrontational.
@emanaeemanae4002
@emanaeemanae4002 9 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t have let it slide if I was a “swan”. Capote would have been torn up! Swans ride at dawn 🙄😭😂
@kgraham5820
@kgraham5820 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 the "Swans ride at dawn" part really got me cracking up!! 😂😂😂 Perfect hair, makeup and attire for some @$$ kicking!! Right On!
@rm4519
@rm4519 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂love that!
@DolsieMercado
@DolsieMercado 8 ай бұрын
No, no, no, Gloria Vanderbilt went through a tough time when her oldest son passed away. To make matters worse her psychologist and someone else tried to take advantage of her during those dark years in her life. She barely survived that. Her husband passed away prior to her son. That all takes a toll in anyone’s soul.
@anitaholst7671
@anitaholst7671 3 ай бұрын
By revealing the swans' secrets he 1) rejected them before they could reject him; 2) took revenge on his mother
@dividends4retirement
@dividends4retirement 9 ай бұрын
Very comprehensive information here. I tend to watch long videos more and more and am really sick of all the trash ai videos on youtube. Your video clearly involved a lot of work and attention. I would rather support your channel and all the lazy history channels that just repeat articles on the internet. Videos like this one are good at pulling information together for a better understanding of the topic, in this case, who Truman Capote was. I really did not know about his machinations in high society and only thought of him as someone who wrote In Cold Blood. Anyway, good job and I hope you do more long videos.
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the feedback on longer videos. I appreciate knowing this.
@beantoes9627
@beantoes9627 9 ай бұрын
Lee Radziwill dated Onassis before Jackie married him. How crushing for 2 sisters who were constantly comparing themselves.
@vikki4real
@vikki4real 8 ай бұрын
I remember that! That act would have brought down any sisters relationship, and especially one that was obviously, not so privately fractured, such as Jackie, and Lee's was! I believe that Jackie knew exactly what she was doing, when she married Onassis. And how it would devastate Lee. Ah family, sometimes you can't live with them, and you can't live with them ( yes, you read that right, lol). ✌🏾💜💜
@marinaknife4595
@marinaknife4595 8 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed the details in your video -
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@robj474
@robj474 8 ай бұрын
It's hard to garner sympathy for a single character, which makes it all the more fascinating. In a way they all deserved one another.
@debrabader806
@debrabader806 8 ай бұрын
Wonderful presentation! I really enjoyed it. The Narrator has a lovely sounding voice as well. Thank you again Debra Bader.
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Appreciate the positive feedback!
@vikki4real
@vikki4real 8 ай бұрын
Wonderful telling of the life of Truman Capote! I've read just about everything that Truman ever wrote. Starting with Other Voices, Other Rooms (great title). I believe that he was sort of a tragic genius! A tortured, brilliant soul. He could be notoriously petty, and backbiting. But then, by turn, be your very best friend. It was said that, his once dear friend Harper Lee, who wrote To Kill A Mockingbird, fashioned the character Dill, the friend who spent summers with his aunt, and was befriended by the character Scout, was that of Truman. No matter what people thought, or think of Truman Capote, he was fascinating. His end of life was hard, and sad. But, I for one, am glad that he was once here! Thank you, for putting together such a lovely documentary! Your narration, and captivating commentary, held my interest, from beginning, to end! 🤗💜💜
@homszerrudo1025
@homszerrudo1025 9 ай бұрын
He was a malignant gnome obsessed with fame and money. He had talent sure but it was only a catalyst he used ro gain what he really wanted: social recognition and validation.
@denisecraig3548
@denisecraig3548 8 ай бұрын
Which he lost all in the end-thinking he could “make” society accept him. He learned THAT lesson. When you bite someone, they usually bite back.
@SydneyChandler
@SydneyChandler 6 ай бұрын
He had a toxic relationship with his mother and it messed his mind up to the point of hating women, and subconsciously wanting to destroy every woman in his life. I don't feel sorry for him because instead of getting help, he manifested this unforgiveable viciousness that ultimately destroyed him.
@HeathertheGreat_
@HeathertheGreat_ 6 ай бұрын
That’s why he was gay. Hates women.
@ElaineAnderson-y9r
@ElaineAnderson-y9r 3 ай бұрын
His drinking after the death of the killer he got way to close to while garnering background knowledge for his book " In cold blood" is what killed his career. He fell into a deep depression and turned to drink to try and alleviate his thoughts and feelings about it. It's such a huge tragedy that the topic that would bring him his greatest success would also be his downfall.
@ericab845
@ericab845 7 ай бұрын
Capote hung around rich White woman who's biggest achievement was having lunch and shopping.
@lindahughes2289
@lindahughes2289 9 ай бұрын
Thank you and THANK YOU FOR USING AUDIO OF TRUMAN'S VOICE !!!! SO MANY DO NOT !
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 9 ай бұрын
Your welcome. Glad you like it!
@dividends4retirement
@dividends4retirement 9 ай бұрын
Yes, it is another example of the creativity and work you put into this video. I like it.
@Luv-evedear
@Luv-evedear Ай бұрын
In 1981, I was at a garden party in Bridgewater, CT. I found a chair and went to sit in it, next to a small man sitting in the other chair. I sat down and he turned his face to me and said “Do you know who I am?” He was drunk as a skunk, reminded me of a frog, and could barely see me. It was Truman Capote. He tried to speak to me but his words were illegible. He slurred so badly.. and then he passed out in the chair. I wasn’t familiar with him.
@notaclue822
@notaclue822 9 ай бұрын
Babe Paley was beautiful. I think Capote was a real snake. He got them to trust him, and then he betrayed them, and people really got hurt. He did it repeatedly and he wasn't just targeting the upper class, he was targetting women.
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 9 ай бұрын
I think that a lot of people are missing the point you are making. He is targeting women. Thanks for joining the cOnversation!
@denisecraig3548
@denisecraig3548 8 ай бұрын
Exactly. I remember him as a truly horrible man and never did understand how anyone could trust him. He always “came off” as a snake and snakes don’t change.
@RestlessRobin
@RestlessRobin 8 ай бұрын
Fabulous video, very insightful, thanks. I don't think I've ever said the word bastxxd so often in one hour!! 😂
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@dr.ronaldcharlesnesbitt9960
@dr.ronaldcharlesnesbitt9960 9 ай бұрын
Excellent insight into Truman Capote's life and work. Truly enjoyed your video. Thank you.
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the positive feedback. I find it helpful.
@tigerphid9677
@tigerphid9677 Ай бұрын
I think that The Swans thought of Capote as their cute little mascot who was disposable.
@San_Teel
@San_Teel 9 ай бұрын
That was a lot of research and time and I just wanted you to know I truly appreciate the hard work you put in. I never met the man but I know I don't like him and never will. He used people like he used toilet paper especially the Clutter family and their friends and neighbours. Thank you once again and I look forward to another treat soon
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the feedback. I appreciate you taking your time to provide me with that inspiration for more long videos. I think you are the first person to draw the comparison of how Capote used the townspeople to get his story for In Cold Blood. Thank you for that as well.
@dividends4retirement
@dividends4retirement 9 ай бұрын
The movie about Capote writing In Cold Blood with Toby Jones demonstrates in a very subtle way but it is there. Even Capote's childhood friend, Harper Lee sees it.
@beantoes9627
@beantoes9627 9 ай бұрын
These women all look hungry to me
@clevelandplonsey7480
@clevelandplonsey7480 9 ай бұрын
Because they live on cigarettes and starvation
@lostcause6100
@lostcause6100 9 ай бұрын
Why have you given Truman a Cockney drawl? He's from the South not South London.
@anastasiarose4482
@anastasiarose4482 9 ай бұрын
I noticed that too, I thought I was tripping or he was that affected. 😂😂😂
@Stephanie-we5ep
@Stephanie-we5ep 8 ай бұрын
The audio clips *_are_* Truman's voice! He was that affected...
@peterlynch5656
@peterlynch5656 8 ай бұрын
Wow, wondered that too! If it was actual audio footage....kept thinking it must have been his real voice in there, somewhere, lol! He was that affected
@denisecraig3548
@denisecraig3548 8 ай бұрын
This was part of Truman’s facade. He thought he could pretend to be whatever he wanted and would be accepted. It was a true “deserved justice” when he fell “out” with everyone he’d used.
@markferguson3745
@markferguson3745 8 ай бұрын
Nope,- that's it ,- believe it or not.
@christophermorgan3261
@christophermorgan3261 9 ай бұрын
Breakfast at Tiffany's is a great film but nothing like the Capote book. He wanted Marilyn Monroe but the part was given to Audrey Hepburn.
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 9 ай бұрын
That does seen to happen in Hollywood. Stephen King hated what they did when they first started adapting his books to the screen until her learned how to have more say in his adaptations. Thanks for joining the conversation!
@kaliwindx7287
@kaliwindx7287 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this excellent work
@riverrun3995
@riverrun3995 9 ай бұрын
Well done😃Loved it!
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! 😀
@barbaras8562
@barbaras8562 4 ай бұрын
He was marginally accepted due to his fame and his gossip. In other words, the court jester. Later, after his banishment, once he got deeper into his addictions, no one wanted him around.
@BBigg-kh7pz
@BBigg-kh7pz 2 ай бұрын
He didnt betray his swans. He just roasted and ate them. Its not betrayal if its premeditated. Those swans should have known not to eat the bread. There were signs clearly posted.
@sallyreno6296
@sallyreno6296 7 ай бұрын
Truman Capote did not have any sides that were not "dark."
@Echo-tk8pz
@Echo-tk8pz 9 ай бұрын
I think that TC thought he was a woman. He was angry at the world because he was not a woman. Therefore, he was hateful.
@elizabethhopkins7582
@elizabethhopkins7582 9 ай бұрын
Huh? He was a Gay man. He didn't want to be a woman. That's not how that works.
@elizabethhopkins7582
@elizabethhopkins7582 9 ай бұрын
Huh? He was a Gay man. He didn't want to be a woman. That's not how that works.
@clevelandplonsey7480
@clevelandplonsey7480 9 ай бұрын
He wouldn’t have been happy as a woman either. Still would have been short, unattractive and mean.
@Foxy88444
@Foxy88444 3 ай бұрын
Yep he wanted to be the rich baddie deep down
@shosmyth1454
@shosmyth1454 17 күн бұрын
How could Capote think divulging the personal information imparted to him by His Swans would eve allow him into High Society??
@freciemagdirila7075
@freciemagdirila7075 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this brilliant documentary.
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@computerblue84
@computerblue84 5 ай бұрын
You have such an awesome channel, and a new subscriber!! Been loving these videos so far! Keep up the killer content!!
@williammoersen
@williammoersen 4 ай бұрын
We can only guess how much these swans talked about Truman behind his back. Gays were not accepted very much. He may have heard about the gossip about his homosexuality. Homophobia was always nipping at his heels. Just saying. There's 2 sides to every story.
@cherylkavanagh3387
@cherylkavanagh3387 8 ай бұрын
I believe that exploitation was a double edged sword in this case. Capote exploited the Swans for his needs and they exploited him for theirs. For the most part, probably equitable exploitation (if there is such a thing). However, betrayal is an entirely different matter. Capote had not written anything in years and had been give several deadlines and some generous advances by Random House to complete Answered Prayers, which he was struggling to do. Having all of that juicy gossip in his back pocket was just too tempting, in my opinion.
@ginacable5376
@ginacable5376 8 ай бұрын
That was very interesting and well told, new subscriber.
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much and welcome aboard!
@Madmen604
@Madmen604 4 ай бұрын
Women's main role was motherhood. They were not allowed to work if married . So, rich beautiful women like these married rich men . It's how they survived. It wasn't necessarily about love, it was about sex, having children , financial partnership and it was supposed to be a legal , long term arrangement. Many parents arranged introductions toward marriage.
@shosmyth1454
@shosmyth1454 17 күн бұрын
It is sad to think about how ruthless he was with the women that trusted him? He had blood on his hands with the suicide committed by Ms Woodward! He was vicious Little Worm!
@markdwighttadina7655
@markdwighttadina7655 9 ай бұрын
Breakfast at Tiffany's was the mainstream beginning In Cold Blood was The Peak Answered Prayers was the beginning of the end and eventually the last nail in the coffin Truman Capote way of writing made him famous and canceled at the same time. He could've been used allegorical narratives in Answered Prayers particularly "La Cotê Basque 1965".
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for joining the conversation!
@anitaholst7671
@anitaholst7671 3 ай бұрын
Now i want to read his works
@beyourself2444
@beyourself2444 2 ай бұрын
So basically, Truman was getting revenge on his mother by killing his swans.
@traceyestes
@traceyestes 8 ай бұрын
He was a master with words. Writers tell stories about what interests them. He didn't do anything that other writers haven't done. I loved him. I'm a writer so I know the process. Most don't. He was a fabulous writer and many were jealous. Kids that are abused or neglected have problems. Fabulous video. You did a great job.
@pageribe2399
@pageribe2399 9 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed that. Thanks!
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 9 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@r3adrpro811
@r3adrpro811 9 ай бұрын
You made a very obvious legal error in the Ann Woodward story. Grand juries indict/vote on the charging documents; they do not convict anyone of anything. It is a regular jury that decides whether a person is guilty or not guilty of the charges.
@dividends4retirement
@dividends4retirement 9 ай бұрын
I guess only lawyers should make videos. jEEEZ....
@r3adrpro811
@r3adrpro811 9 ай бұрын
@@dividends4retirement I'm so sorry you are upset by a learning moment not directed at you
@clevelandplonsey7480
@clevelandplonsey7480 9 ай бұрын
I’m so sorry you’re so contemptuous of other people
@dolinaj1
@dolinaj1 Ай бұрын
People who resort to ad hominem attacks are unable to argue their points of view legitimately.
@basicallyno1722
@basicallyno1722 3 ай бұрын
Can’t say I really care for most of these women’s troubles. They don’t seem like they were good people and probably gossiped with Truman, thinking they were special and immune to his nastiness. Most (not all) of these women would most likely be the Karen’s we see flipping out on social media with their racist, xenophobic rants.
@manichispanic5234
@manichispanic5234 Ай бұрын
These women are too wealthy for that, they don't give a f*** what us plebs are up to
@davidbrienlantry8760
@davidbrienlantry8760 8 ай бұрын
This is such a thoughtful, well researched presentation that the glaring error of eluding to Ann Woodward being one of Truman Capote's "Swans" almost ruins it. Woodward was never part of his circle and the two of them were openly hostile toward each other and that fact is well documented. the correction of this obvious flaw would make this an excellent documentary rather than just a good one.
@pauladouglas9891
@pauladouglas9891 8 ай бұрын
In spite of everything, he was a very talented writer and many of his phrases were adapted intact into the screenplay of ' Breakfast at Tiffany's '.
@surlypiratewench1969
@surlypiratewench1969 9 ай бұрын
Such a messed up situation. Very sad for all
@lakid9749
@lakid9749 9 ай бұрын
Great well researched video
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 9 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it
@ladylaura8038
@ladylaura8038 8 ай бұрын
Armed with your video, I’m on my way to watch Fued!! Thank you 🎉❤ absolutely prepared 🤩
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy!
@internationalpaperdollsociety
@internationalpaperdollsociety 6 ай бұрын
It is a little sad he had to hang out with those rich women, he did not need them with his talent and brains, and they did not need him as a a faux friend, a sign of those times...?
@HeathertheGreat_
@HeathertheGreat_ 6 ай бұрын
He could have hailed on his own for sure! Was he was envious. I wonder if his intention was always to stick it to them. Women used to love hanging with gay men. The perfect man? Made them feel beautiful. Then he would backstab them. Witnessed it countless times. They’d all been better off had they not met each other.
@judyevancic4926
@judyevancic4926 7 ай бұрын
The reason that he wiggled his way into the lives of these women because he was very gay and loved gossip. So they told him all their frustrations especially around their husbands womanizing. He liked his link to the parties this level of society and it fed his narcissistic ego.
@Davidf8L
@Davidf8L 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for your work and time making this ❤❤❤❤
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 ай бұрын
You're welcome 😊
@marionpfander8752
@marionpfander8752 Күн бұрын
" Creep " , " sociopath " , " narcissist " , wow , l didn't expect this . Thank you for this very in- depth portrayal of him . I really enjoyed " The Grass Harp " , and both " Breakfast At Tiffany's " versions : his own book , and the film with an alternate , more appropriate for the time , version , but , equally good , in my opinion . It's sad when people cannot escape their inner- most demons , and not only torture , poison themselves , but alienate and destroy others close to them . An empty and tragic life , yet with some genius writing for us to enjoy .
@remodesu
@remodesu 6 ай бұрын
Great pictorial and Truman was a gas !
@Hallowworth2
@Hallowworth2 7 ай бұрын
But- the fox told them who he was from the beginning….
@Lemon_N555
@Lemon_N555 Ай бұрын
Isn't it interesting that the Swans who forgave him are the ones that lived rewarding & productive lives (that is, had independent & satisfying careers) in addition to their socialite persona. For example, Lee became an interior design gurus with a successful business. The Swans that couldn't forgive him led vapid and empty lives (at least that's how it looked like on the outside) with no vocation (unless you count husband hunting 😉) to keep them busy and fulfilled.
@frockabyebabyshabbychic2611
@frockabyebabyshabbychic2611 8 ай бұрын
What an interesting documentary- thank you.
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@JR-sq2of
@JR-sq2of 2 ай бұрын
27:35 R those spaghetti noodles hanging off that man's face 👀? Looks to be seated next to Babe while she reads the restaurant's menu? Food fight? 😮
@MYPOWERSTATION1
@MYPOWERSTATION1 16 күн бұрын
Truman learnt what women are really about .... and it broke him.
@markferguson3745
@markferguson3745 8 ай бұрын
I find it difficult to empathize with individuals with such shallow and material driven motivations.What can be called " glamourous" could easily be regarded as greedy, wasteful, and ultimately foolish.Those who idolize such individuals now ,as then, seem simply lost and empty clout chasers to me, and nothing bears this out more than the realities of these " swans" fates and lives.
@gabe_2544
@gabe_2544 8 ай бұрын
I think he had spite for these type of women from the very beginning, rather than it developing from being around them. He ingratiated himself and pretended to be a trustworthy, compassionate confidante so they’d reveal their private matters to him.
@imhere653
@imhere653 9 ай бұрын
What a predicament to find yourself in! The Swans were probably chafing in their scarves for wanting to bring a lawsuit for slander and libel. But that would be to risk letting the public know for sure the characters were indeed, themselves. And with such an untrustworthy defendant, the danger of more damage (as in scorched earth) to be done was too real.
@australiainfelix7307
@australiainfelix7307 8 ай бұрын
No mention of the tribe who ran publishing. A tribe Capote himself called out. And Paley? Hmm... Much missing here.
@EddieParker-lb3vi
@EddieParker-lb3vi 9 ай бұрын
Philip Seymour Hoffman played Truman Capote in a bio film about his life. It was a role that made his career soar. Didn't 🤔 Capote was a drug abuser similar to Hoffman also
@glendagaskin151
@glendagaskin151 7 ай бұрын
This is a good article. I really like the longer version.
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 7 ай бұрын
THanks for letting me know!
@CTX700girl
@CTX700girl 7 ай бұрын
I remembered watching him on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson and other talk shows as a kid growing up. I thought he was strange, of course because of his distinctive voice, but mainly because he appeared to be totally wasted, slurring his words. I didn’t know what drunk was back then as a kid,never having seen a drunk person before. He was funny though and made the audience and host laugh a lot He was really short and thought he might be related to Paul Williams, the song writer/ actor because they looked somewhat similar. Watching this about him now is fascinating. I guess he was a unhappy person that was never really found true happiness and envied other people. I remember hearing that he lived with Joanne Carson after she was divorced Johnny.
@zappa-happy
@zappa-happy 9 ай бұрын
U can’t beat Jessica Lange!! Love Her! 🌟🌟💖💖
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 8 ай бұрын
I agree!
@hanabbe
@hanabbe 9 ай бұрын
Well done
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 9 ай бұрын
thanks!
@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji
@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji 6 ай бұрын
Truman Capote’s mother was a piece of work! 😅
@Elayzee
@Elayzee 8 ай бұрын
I don't believe Capote ever wrote more than these excerpts. And in all honesty I think the book would've been bad. I agree with many who say that it reads just like a gossip columnist with no real intriguing stories or characters. If people didn't know of its connection to the real-life counterparts of the characters it would not have been given a second thought. It reads like someone who's on a drunk rambling session going on and on about his close friends's lives. His swans weren't perfect either, and in some ways even worse than Capote himself.
@cm9439
@cm9439 9 ай бұрын
Al Hirschfeld drew the illustration. I have no sympathy for these people.
@barbaramilder7959
@barbaramilder7959 Ай бұрын
1:01:49 1:01:50 1:01:50
@charlesabernathy5842
@charlesabernathy5842 8 ай бұрын
I have one hundred pages of a book written. I don't know if I will ever get it published.
@mudchatpotterynbricks
@mudchatpotterynbricks 8 ай бұрын
decide that it will.
@anairenemartinez165
@anairenemartinez165 Ай бұрын
This was about Truman Capote but degenerated into Babe Paley.
@ShankGardner-ps1hf
@ShankGardner-ps1hf 8 ай бұрын
That is NOT Gloria Guinness to the left of Capote. The woman on the right is, in fact, Babe Paley. Also, it's EYE-na, not E-na.
@judydunlop1964
@judydunlop1964 8 ай бұрын
Familiarity breeds contempt
@dolorescordell129
@dolorescordell129 7 ай бұрын
As if anyone gave a shit about these shallow, selfish, self-important people. All Capote did was tell the truth - what the self-proclaimed "elites" cannot stand.
@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji
@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji 6 ай бұрын
In Cold Blood sounds all too much like how he lived when he betrayed the women who had befriended him! 😅
@Crezelltree4261
@Crezelltree4261 9 ай бұрын
In Cold Blood was a dark,brooding,haunting violent movie.And it was a true story.
@dolinaj1
@dolinaj1 Ай бұрын
It was a fictionalized “true story.”
@lindacarlen7422
@lindacarlen7422 9 ай бұрын
Where is the link for Yatchs and Things? I'm not finding anything.
@ethos1236
@ethos1236 9 ай бұрын
Scroll down past the title of the video.
@fabulouswomeninhistory
@fabulouswomeninhistory 9 ай бұрын
You can READ IT HERE ► archive.vanityfair.com/article/2012/12/01/yachts-and-things
@bsota8513
@bsota8513 9 ай бұрын
@@fabulouswomeninhistory Thanks
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