The darkside of the INTJ

[@lovewho]

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[@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon]

I hate how most people don't think for themselves. They just follow the crowd and believe any lie that's repeated often enough.

[@lovewho]

That's certainly an annoying trait indeed! ~ Nathan

[@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon]

@@lovewho I say the word "annoying" probably 10 times a day. Sometimes everything just gets on my nerves so bad.

[@andreagreenwood93]

True! It also seems like a lot of people believe they think for themselves, but they *coincidentally* always seem to arrive at the conclusions they've always been told to believe. 🙄 So even their way of questioning things is shaped by how they've been told to question things, and not original.

[@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon]

@@andreagreenwood93 True.

[@cookiecaramel6187]

@@andreagreenwood93 Said like a true INTJ. Most people don't realize that their man made reality is not just material but immaterial also.

[@Michael59197]

An alien trapped in a human suit... that's how I feel every day. Why are most people incapable of doing what is right and reasonable? And how do I end up dealing with all the bs they make for no reason?

[@aiden4917]

I feel ya man.

[@micmccond7]

Like being a guy...aware that your primitive brain is banging away at the "spread the geneware" bell...and im wishing I could delete the bell...8 billion...I think we're going to be okay brain...

[@lunastariaspiritdiva8662]

As an INFJ, I agree with most things that INTJs think/say and feel ~

[@theannablue4777]

me too -_-

[@miss_karenjoselin]

I love aliens, i have been feeling like one my whole life!

[@threeisthemagicnumbercalif4540]

All of us INTJ will survive in any given situation, apocalypse, zombie attack, bad relationship and virus.

[@dan-gy4vu]

speak for yourself. Even the most powerful wizard can die from a needle prick.

[@ixxx3542]

True

[@electrofish5598]

BRO I THOUGHT ABOUT IT BEFORE FINDING OUT THAT I'M INTJ

[@abhinavbajaj1005]

Thats so true...

[@elgato49]

Still alive n well 💪

[@MrKeven108NoobDestroyer]

“Plans will never workout precisely the way you expect them to” yes they will

[@lovewho]

Honestly, I secretly tell myself that too when I’m scheming ~ Nathan

[@Milsukix3]

Sometimes you need to adjust your plan or show other people like your plan wasn’t working to actually make your plan work lol

[@JonathanPaspula]

That’s not always the case and a refusal to account for the unexpected variables and happening can set you up for turmoil. Plans can workout the way you want them to but in an unpredictable world, you will find that it is not always the case

[@MrKeven108NoobDestroyer]

Jonathan Paspula yeah but I’m built different

[@kormannn1]

When plan making is about to be completed, I always ask myself - "What could go wrong?" And then I fail to model unforeseen consequences. So, yes, sometimes plan goes exactly the way you imagined, sometimes not...

[@kevinkappen6697]

Sometimes the dots shouldn't be connected?!?!?!!! HERESY!!!!!

[@lovewho]

I knew I was tempting fate with that one! ~ Nathan

[@Mary-Ann_B_Mabaet]

"Oh... I went from A to F again, didn't I? Ok, ok... hold on. (Becomes more methodical and concisely explains A, B, C, D, E then F then further explains how I got there with analogies suited for each person within the group that looks at me with confusion.)" Honestly, trying to Soften Up Values when presenting a notion or use Euphemisms for our Feelers is a hard Art to Master at Times. It can be Time consuming and draining but it provides less conflict if you decide you'll like their consideration.

[@loyaltyisroyalty738]

@@lovewho why do u keep sayomg Nathan like that.

[@chrisofelt6427]

ever hear the saying ignorance is bliss? think about how many times would you have been happier if you didn't find out about things?

[@danicleckley5404]

If they aren't made to be connected, why are they there?

[@dandeliondot]

My intj friend used to describe herself as an alien. And not in a charming, quirky way, but with dread. Interesting you mentioned it.

[@NoName-ze4qn]

In the thing-esque way?

[@cookiecaramel6187]

All human beings (all 16 personalities) are aliens, it's just the INTJ s who stand out as such.

[@brockolea]

An alien with dreadlocks....like the Predator

[@ishyameru6232]

@@brockolea funny I have locs

[@1haniestan278]

I refer to myself as one from Venus...not in a "Aphrodite" kinda way but just like...that planet is right there but not quite here

[@seventhsheaven]

INTJs are the type I (ENTP) get on with the best, but their Fi always comes as a surprise when I get peeks at it. I had to partner up with an INTJ at one of those stupid “team building” events and we nailed all the puzzles. I like doing detective work, but I was mainly just getting through it so we could hurry up and grab lunch, but I could see that he really enjoyed winning against the other teams. That little smirk. I just need to find one that isn’t already married.

[@lovewho]

ENTP + INTJ is such a brilliant duo/team. 100% agree ~ Nathan

[@mikearmstrong9668]

I’m one paragraph deep into reading about ENTPs and I’m in love.

[@missluxy2007]

I am INTJ and lived with male rooomate who is ENTP. It was magical ☆.

[@seventhsheaven]

Miss Luxy 😭 I’m jealous!

[@seventhsheaven]

Mike Armstrong us female ENTPs aren’t common, but we’re out there! Hope you find one.

[@ninadiener9806]

It's true that we tend to be around people we have some purpose for, but I see no point in being around people we don't really like or who don't add to our lives in some way. It is a cog thing, and we don't really have the social capacity of personally caring about every single person we meet (speaking for myself here). That doesn't mean treating someone with disrespect or so is ok for anyone, though. However, in my experience, pretending to like/care about someone to get what you want is more a Fe-user thing

[@lovewho]

Fascinating and I agree regarding the Fe-user brand of manipulation. INTJs are more clear with their intentions from the start and that's an admirable honesty ~ Nathan

[@armints4941]

I can get what you mean. All people tend to be around those they have purpose for or another reason, INTJs just don't waste time on unnecessary ones

[@kinseydesignsbrands]

INFJ here- I have definitely used Fe to pretend I like/care about someone, but my intention if I do that, is usually rooted in a desire to keep peace and harmony and avoid confrontation rather than manipulate for my own gain.

[@dkorwood]

Nina Diener well, my purpose of friends is trust and I measure that by all they say and do with everything and everyone over time. I don’t want to be bothered with too many people so the ones I call friend need to be valuable

[@anacheah8981]

Nina, caring is so draining. Each time, I have to lie down for at least 1-2 hours.

[@Sardy540]

"is there no limit to how annoying these humans can be". This is the best!! 😆 Also.....no. There seems to be no limit.

[@lovewho]

Lol that really wasn't fun for me ~ Nathan

[@Sardy540]

@@lovewho as soon as you said what they were doing I was infuriated. 😆 "Of all the f***ING times in the history of mankind, you have to do this now..... 😐"

[@T1ddySprinkles]

The objectification part is only half true. People in the INTJs personal life are very much valued as people. People who are there to do a job are valued for the job they do, and INTJs don't like to mix business and pleasure. Just do your job and take your paycheck so we can all go home and stare off into space or whatever normies do.

[@nicolewinters]

Hello

[@T1ddySprinkles]

@@nicolewinters "sup

[@nicolewinters]

@@T1ddySprinkles what's up cuties intj

[@T1ddySprinkles]

@@nicolewinters Intense brooding and finger tenting as usual. ENFP, I presume?

[@nicolewinters]

@@T1ddySprinkles I'm INTJ lol

[@InternetLiJo]

Yes we objectify people in a very functional matter and people become thing-like to us. But this is our cognitive programming, and opposite to popular belief it isn’t because we are trying to be “evil masterminds”. We just see everything, people and things included as pieces that either work or do not work together in the puzzle that is our defined objective.

[@lovewho]

Very well said!! ~ Nathan

[@jaeloniala4672]

Only problem is, it ends up being evil coz those people don't see themselves or the INTJ as a thing-like to be used for a given function. And no one, even the INTJ, don't want to be just a cog in someone else's wheel, plans or goals. I think INTJs fail to see other human beings as independent human beings. If these human beings dont fit in the INTJs plan, then they are not useful to the INTJ, and are discarded pronto. But, it seems everyone is always of some use to the INTJ. Everybody was created to be used by the INTJ for some purpose. LOL.

[@giorgigiorgi8375]

Sooo true !!! Also I watch your videos👋

[@InternetLiJo]

Giorgi Giorgi awesome!

[@ericbooth7615]

First time I looked in a comments section and was like "hey I recognize that person!" When are we getting another "meeting of the cognitive functions" video? :D

[@linhao3684]

so glad to be called "the chess master" while dont even try to learn how to play chess

[@jacobwiren8142]

Chess is WAY to simple for me. Totally boring. That's why I'm working on my OWN game with rules designed to challenge me... To surpass myself is the ultimate accomplishment.

[@FionaA17]

I personally as an intj dont bother playing chess because i have more important things to be doing. I have no need for chess

[@natasdabsi1138]

@@jacobwiren8142 cringe

[@Bash_the_Bash]

As an INTJ I can honestly admit that as much as I hate the fact, I'm pretty shit at chess. Maybe not shit, but definitely not good that's for sure

[@natasdabsi1138]

@@Bash_the_Bash practice practice practice

[@dksdmusic]

"Plans will never work out the way you plan them to...." "laughs in 13 backup plans"

[@angel79nunn]

As an intj I have no back up plans for my future, I use that as my motivation lol

[@arthtiwari3232]

No backups that stuff for failure because they already thing they will loose, then tell me how they gonna pave the way out

[@chrisb9143]

Yes they work, until you let -anything- anyone else than another INTX in

[@ants_in_my_eyes_Wilson]

I bet a lot of INTJs are thriving right now... social distancing is my middle name.

[@lovewho]

It's an introverts paradise! ~ Nathan

[@FionaA17]

Omd i literally loved lockdown ngl

[@BuizelCream]

Now in 2021, and I'm still enjoying this quarantining. There's so much to do! - INTJ

[@thislife3738]

We're on the same boat 😂

[@sanjuktaganguly4561]

Ooohh!!! It's my favourite time to be honest no social interaction so much peace.. though I am sorry for who are suffering in this time, but personally I like this concept, social distancing

[@riverevans726]

"alien in a suit" I've never related to a description of myself so much. Very true. Especially as a female INTJ; I truly feel very alienated, I hope to find others like me.

[@lovewho]

As long as you ‘come in peace’ then you INTJs are welcome here anytime!! Hope you enjoyed the video ~ Nathan

[@riverevans726]

@@lovewho haha, yeah video was great, and thanks.

[@kh2716]

You should feel right at home online..... as every female is INTJ here :-D

[@J_Trask]

Whenever I’m having a friendly conversation with an acquaintance, I usually have to try very hard to be engaging and to act normally. A lot of the time, I have a hard time following the conversation bc internally I’m reminding myself to keep eye contact, smile, be friendly etc. I suppose it comes off as being fake, but it’s really a struggle to talk to people without seeming preoccupied.

[@chanslaptop8529]

I'm a female INTJ!!!

[@dearthofdoohickeys4703]

I often dream to be alone in a spaceship, completely detached from contact of any kind. No company but my own thoughts, and the comforting silence of an endless void.

[@Bgrosz1]

I think that's a good analogy for how our minds float through reality.

[@aey8737]

Sounds terrifying lol

[@hotbarbie]

When he mentioned the conspiracy theorist, I was like "say no more". ('Cause I'm obsessed with conspiracy theories.)

[@hanz2904]

Funny enough i too was into them then i realized it wasn't worth the mental effort.

[@anita4797]

isnt it satisfying when you know the intention behind something and with what purpose it was made, seeing through it? I talk about Everything but for example a simple commercial, and how they manipulate people who are falling for them. Its nice to be aware and connect the dots, so at least you know it, you become more clear minded.

[@luisa146]

@@anita4797 Whenever I watch tv I'm disgusted by commercials and their desperate and obvious attempts to manipulate people.

[@anita4797]

@@luisa146 you are right, tho i dont watch tv, but commercials are everywhere anyway, internet, outside, so on. i think whats more sad is people buying it, and not thinking for themselves. or when you explain it they either dont care or dont believe it so they keep continuing with the same mindset which is hardly a mindset.

[@TheBittenBullet]

@@anita4797 In their defense, without the benefit of iNtuition, hearing these intuitive analyses puts a kind of strain on their well-being. Sensors (which are most people), in general, are not psychologically equipped to think in such abstract terms. They have to expend a great deal more mental energy to think in such ways; just as we iNtuitives have to do so to function in the sensory.

[@mcgucci8975]

Isolation (i prefer very selective interaction) - alien in a suit - conspiracy theories - 'evil mastermind' a perspective from the outside looking in is understandable. Spot on, have a sub.

[@lovewho]

Thank you! ~ Nathan

[@luisgomessemog]

Man, very selective social interation is describing my social life. Like some person said me like "Don't you like socializing? Come socialize withe me(and started to pull me away with her)" I stopped and said "no". Like the "INTJs are robots generalization are bad, we like social activity but with people we like.

[@empemitheos]

I think it can look like an INTJ objectifies people easily, but look closer and you'll see that the the group of people they feel a connection with and have enough energy for is just really small

[@lovewho]

That makes a lot of sense ~ Nathan

[@based_dragon_0110]

No you just objectify people

[@gusargoan]

That's true.

[@Bgrosz1]

@@based_dragon_0110 , That are outside the circle, not inside the circle. I do not see my family and friends in terms of their usefulness to me. I do with everyone else.

[@byondca]

I'm laughing hard its true

[@mic55y]

+INTJ's usually don't like any kinds descriptions (or rules of any kind as such) because they know that all is relative and depend on contexts, understanding and interpretations (: +They remember and use information that they are actually gathering and analysing in their daily live (I am currently interested in study of X, so I will use information of X as my current preferable thinking and solving algorithm/strategy, I will see the "colors" world more that way-it is both good and bad for them, they are very dynamic thanks to that trait), so it is very important for them to not be interested in any information that they don't like and don't want to use or solve, because they get stuck in their neverending thinking processes and it will slowing down them in their daily life and also life progress and in doing good for this world. Thank you so much.

[@lovewho]

Great comment. ~ Nathan

[@SoupTurtle16]

yup i perfer games that toss me right into a mess where i figure things out especially if its an open world genre

[@just.a.little.nobodydontmi9350]

Oh my god this is so accurate I swear most most used phrase is “it depends”

[@luisgomessemog]

Yeah, everytime I think in MBTI I think in multiverse and different timelines. Like ok, this happened, but why? What if it's because this person(...) suffered by/from(...). Stuff like that

[@naofuieu2477]

@@just.a.little.nobodydontmi9350 so true, I use the word "relatively" with all its meanings so often, sometimes I use it in such a way that the distinctive meanings can make sense in the same sentence, relative to its context lol

[@irenem.7775]

Every INTJ is wired differently than another. All of those things mentioned aren't necessarily dark but can have dark repercussions. What most don't realize is that dark repercussions, can have positive outcomes and effects, you can't acknowledge something if you don't feel it, deal with it, and analyze it in it's entirety to include the negative effects it creates. Every choice creates both positive and negative outcomes, and next round of choices can be influenced by the repercussions of the previous choices. Sort of like a waves or layers wrapped around each other. As female I've also noticed that I'm a little bit more wired to human emotion, apathy, and the value of human life. And although I may feel different than other's and look at other's and wonder "Why are you doing this to yourself human?" It's not really put on the person, it's the situations they get themselves into. But really it always comes down to "If you REALLY thought about it a little more..."

[@strikerzero7]

Do you have an instagram I can follow Irene?

[@UnstoppableDuckling]

I am an INTJ myself, and most of the things are true. When it particularly comes to following rites and rituals, it's not that I can't, more like, I won't. Almost all the said points are relatable to me. But I disagree with tagging it as the 'darkside'. It is what makes an INTJ, an INTJ, and there is nothing like a dark or light side.

[@OttomanWarriorWoman]

If this is the dark side, then I'll embrace it.

[@PiNkSpRinkLe1]

He can tell you how to take something apart and reassemble it, but he "doesn't get" ordinary human interactions, reactions, motives. He can answer every question in Trivial Pursuit, but has no clue what a meme is, or why people would want to be on Facebook. He does not like small talk, but will chat up every waitress he comes across. He makes very elaborate plans for home improvement projects, but they take two years to complete because the fear of not being perfect causes extreme procrastination.

[@allenpinnix5241]

This describes me almost to a T-- so well put-- thanks!

[@elliotbraim766]

I am a intj professional diagnosed numerous times. I can build perfect in minutes, no need for procrastination, I understand human motives probably better than the person feeling the motives. I would freak the fuck out if I had to hold a conversation with one waitress. Never would i talk to everyone. If engaged in conversation i could yes. Then i would spend unfathomable amounts of time piling threw all the context... being an intj is a curse. I know how things are gonna happen and no one listens. Imagine if you could sitting on a train you know is gonna wreck and it's on loop over and over, despite all your best efforts it is gonna wreck everytime and you will get to experience it all... now imagine that's your life everyday. Fuck imagine telling the people you love and care about all the pain you dont want them to go through and you could draw a diagram pictures have 24hrs of class time to explain it and they still will not believe you time and time again. Even if your right. Being a intj is a curse.

[@sammyj1183]

I deeply admire INTJs :)

[@lovewho]

Are you more confident about your type to say that they are your dual? ~ Nathan

[@sammyj1183]

+Nathan Yes. Lol. 😏 I didn’t want to, but... I can’t not see it now...

[@based_dragon_0110]

What? You shouldnt form a judgement like that based on someone's general grouping. 90% of your personality is unique to you.

[@sammyj1183]

Jagriel What judgment is being formed?

[@lunastariaspiritdiva8662]

I think INFJ with INTJs are amazing ! ~

[@BaltimoreBama]

“Like different chess pieces that have different attributes” - how I view people 😂

[@frickreggievods3161]

We are the same

[@mephistopheles1765]

@@topedius1873 We are not the Queen, we are the hand that moves the Queen and all her pieces.

[@zeroasphyxia]

@@mephistopheles1765 Lelouch Lamperouge..

[@Bgrosz1]

@@mephistopheles1765 , INTJ to wife: You are my Queen! Now, would you be so kind as to move three steps in a 45 degree angle forward and to the right? Yes, that will do nicely.

[@charlesgargotta23]

Chess pieces are at least useful and almost never actively a hindrance to goals.

[@arthurbelljames]

Correct. I am working in management position. I plan everything and talk to myself about efficiency every minute. but I also believe in improvising because I understand the randomness in this world. When I analyze something I look at the details, the future, the past, the big picture of the subject and its hiding value that people don't and never gonna see. I also dream big. I study MBTI to understand other type of people. I want to create great products and services to enrich the society. My best friend is ENFJ.

[@lovewho]

Fascinating! ~ Nathan

[@JeyFox]

I am a manager in a Matrix environment, which demands that I "influence" (convince/beg) people to do things differently, even when it's obvious that the other approach is way more efficient. So much time gets wasted only to hear in the end "Oh, I wish we'd listened to you sooner". Sometimes I ask myself: "Why, Mr. Anderson? Why? Why do you persist?" :D

[@aidsomemore]

I'm an ENFJ and my boyfriend is and INTJ. ^ Sounds about right.

[@andreagreenwood93]

As an INTJ I think this was a great video and agree with all of it. Introverted feeling is definitely underestimated in INTJs, even sometimes by INTJs themselves who think they are purely logical and do not acknowledge their own feelings. Fi is what we WANT and value. That is what the all the strategizing is actually focused on. Fi wants something to be a certain way, Ni envisions how it could come to fruition, and Te bends it into a plan using all the tools of logic available. I think, being the extroverted function, and thus having the least depth, Te is fluid and can allow an INTJ to change their arguments, change their stances, change their tactical approach, while underneath it all Fi is a solid unwavering rock of determination.

[@lovewho]

Love this comment! ~ Nathan

[@jovynabong9522]

No jibber jabber. Just the needed explanation alone.

[@sashhy5183]

Jibber jabber lmao

[@cikazoki]

In your last INTJ video, you said that people with this personality type should remember that 'style is the gateway to substance' or something similar. That stuck with me and has helped me so much. Thank you!

[@lovewho]

Glad you found it useful! ~ Nathan

[@hb6839]

If you don't mind me asking, how are you using that statement to your advantage?

[@cikazoki]

@@hb6839 it's not just about what you say but how you say it. Also, people take you more seriously if you look well put together as apposed to wearing baggy clothes (which I love 😂). Being confident but also showing that instead of just feeling confidence. I don't know if that makes sence but that's how I view it 😁

[@openrealm]

The conspiratorial view of reality is more accurate than anything else now available.

[@jacobwiren8142]

I'm glad you brought this up. Most people can't understand how an INTJ like me could be a nice person since I mostly enjoy esoteric things like power and control. Yes, I'm a schemer, yes, I'm a manipulator, but I do those things because I'm GOOD at it. Making my family and friends smile gives me power over them. I enjoy this feeling of controlling their lives and making them better. Others might find that unbelievable, or even sinister, but that's what I have to offer and that's gonna have to be enough for them, even if they don't notice or appreciate what I do.

[@lovewho]

Between me and you, I completely agree with this ~ Nathan

[@JamieClark]

I’ve had people call me out on this and call me a narcissist and sociopath and other negative words - and I used to be afraid they might be right. Recently, I’ve been learning more about us INTJs and now I’m terrified I might be sane after all!!

[@jacobwiren8142]

@@JamieClark Everyone has a selfish side. We are simply more aware of it, more honest, and less afraid. These are not evil traits, not even close. I've met some REAL narcissists, and they were all Fe users. These are people who think, "I work so hard to service others' emotional needs that I MUST be a good person." Meanwhile they are lying through their teeth to make others happy. Yeah, no, that's not how goodness works. They would lead everyone off the side of a cliff, smiling all the way, if it guaranteed they got the attention they desired. As for REAL weaknesses, INTJs tend to develop a god complex the more successful they become. Just remember to listen to Ti critic from time to time and remind yourself that you are NOT infallible, just really really good at everything. Also, remember to be polite to others. Politeness goes a long way.

[@brittanypage1706]

INTJ female here. Studying Philosophy and Logic made this WAY worse! I navigate the world with a hyper-awareness of Axioms being the foundation of all knowledge we know today. Further, I tend to reject to previously assigned meaning someone else ascribed to Axioms, which makes anything and everything a free for all. Knowing Axioms are mere assumptions, if need be I will reject very common and popular views. Facts and "Logic" aren't methods to influence or pursued me into believing something since all facts are based in Axioms. This mindset works extremely extremely well in academia (I publish in a lot of journals) and maximizes creativity but it's really difficult to find people who can understand this sort of mindset. There are no facts, just interpretations. When facing people who are heavily reliant on facts, logic, math, sciences, etc... I'm an absolute nightmare since it always comes back to the inability to prove Axioms to be true. Science people tend to be less hostile towards me, but mathematic people absolutely hate me once I mention the need for two Axioms to create a theorem or Steven Hawking spending his whole life trying to disprove one Axiom and failing. I personally like the 100% open mindedness, it definitely keeps me to open to even the seemingly craziest possibilities. It's a fairly "radical" position, and definitely reinforces my own beliefs over all else, but higher levels of morality require placing your views and beliefs above all else. I personally would much rather achieve a higher level of morality than play house with the rest of society stuck at the 4th level of morality. For anyone with a Developmental Psychology or Cognitive Science background, this perspective can be found the 5th and 6th level of morality. Or the Lawrence Kohlberg's Stages of Moral Development theory.

[@wantstrawberryfields]

In Mathematics if you work with an axiomatic system, such as ZF, you can use forcing to decide whether a statement is decidable or not. It doesn't give you a way to prove or disprove a theorem, but at least you won't spend the rest of your life looking for something that doesn't exist in your given system. If you are into Bayesian decision making, using fuzzy logic you can find some neat ways to create/restrict systems of ethics that spit out your desired results. /female INTJ, researching Maths & Philosophy (mostly non-applied logic)/

[@brittanypage1706]

@@wantstrawberryfields No doubt! I'm not trying to advocate against mathematics or anything. Nor do I think Axioms are bad by any means. The world would be a nightmare without them haha. I simply just chose the Continential approach to life rather than an Analytic one. Imo Fuzzy and Free logic produce the most interesting results. I'm not too sure if you've ever looked into the values of Hegel's Dialectics, but that shit is super interesting too when looking for "truths". The main hesitation when managing axioms is with fuzzy, is the distinction between logical and illogical axioms. Fuzzy addresses one type of axioms. Also, when managing statement with uncountable nouns [logic (uncountable) vs mathematics (countable)] it gets a bit tricky on a Linguistics level as to whether you (as a countable noun/being) can apply such a decision to an uncountable variable. Obviously nothing is perfect, and logic isn't either (referring to Kierkegaard's Absolute Paradox) but by no means is it a bad thing or anything. Just my approach to life through my practicing of Stoicism and Buddhism (minus religious aspects). Your comment made my day haha, it's so nice to see other philosophers!

[@Desimere]

@@brittanypage1706 My coworker in theoretical CS has the same views as you. He is a maths person. Personally, i had no idea there were levels in real life :D Seriously though, i agree with the idea, but since i avoid comparing myself to others, i can not allow myself to become too interested in this topic. This video has the best people though. You seem like you would be a great friend to have. All the fun philosophizing. People should organize researcher-INTJ social groups :D It's true that the events would be really bad, but people might still make friends, which would retroactively redefine the event as having been a success.

[@andreagreenwood93]

Thank you for sharing about the stages of moral development... I don't think I've heard if it before, and just went and read about it now. It is very interesting, and explains so much frustration I've occasionally felt at others' methods of approaching right and wrong. There was not a very good descriptive difference between level 4 and 6 principles in what I was reading though. Could you explain that difference a bit more if u have the time?

[@lunastariaspiritdiva8662]

This is similar to the INTP looking up things online, and talking about Philosophical Concepts like Occam's Razor, and Russell's Teapot all the time. Most of us (this INFJ included) couldn't care less about all of this, and I just flow with the emotional feelings, my mind doesn't work this way ~

[@jaysomewhereinflyoverterri735]

I am INTJ. Thanks for the video, Love Who. When I was younger, I may have had leanings toward progressivism, I have grown older and wiser and now see that this mindset as wrongheaded and likely to, if applied in a political sense, bring about evil in this world. I would like to encourage all INTJ's to consider spiritualism, the possibility of a creator and a grand plan for the universe. I see so many people in today's world who scoff at religion. I have to wonder if the INTJs among these people, with their analytical abilities, have come to discover a certain emptiness in their lives. I can only hope that they will, and that they will channel their thirst for knowledge toward this, and, that they will choose goodness over evil.

[@aidsomemore]

If I may, how did you discover spiritualism?

[@jaysomewhereinflyoverterri735]

@@aidsomemore I can't answer your question easily. I was brought up Christian, but I have gone trough very hard times where I have questioned my faith. Let me try with this. During the early 1980s, I was in a terrible place in my life. I watched a very late night Christian broadcast and bowed my head and prayed along. Something entered my that was like no other drug that I have ever taken or experimented with. I knew that it was God or one or many of his angels that came to me and spoke into my mind and put into my body such a golden warmth that I laughed and cried at the same time. Words cannot describe the feeling of bliss that I experienced that night.

[@jaysomewhereinflyoverterri735]

@@aidsomemore What an interesting and very hard to answer question. It didn't happen at once. No one happening caused me to, "discover", spiritualism. I discovered it over time, with a little help from society. Those of the academic faith would call people like me, simpletons. Yet, these people who worship themselves as if they are god, have yet to produce a solution to all that is bad in this world. The harder they try and the more they use their influence in politics, I cannot help but to see that the progressive, academic mindset only causes more pain and suffering in this world. My god, only wants us, the beings of his own creation, to be free and live free. He does not want us to be bonded to some machine that makes money for the rich and powerful. He does not want us to be enslaved by those who would force us to eat a certain diet, live a regimented life under the control of some slave master who would tell us that what we are being forced to do is only for our own good. My religion tells me that my creator has a rebellious rival. A devil who would have us believe that we, ourselves are God. We are not. To look upon our world and how it is governed by our fellows, tells me all that I need to know as to whether we human beings can perfect ourselves all by ourselves without our almighty god. We can't do this. All attempts at this have only caused pain, suffering, and mass death upon this world. I am Christian. I believe in my almighty God. I believe in his son, Jesus Christ, who was sent to our world to pay for our sins. I also believe in judgment for all who would attempt to enslave us.

[@nurainiarsad7395]

I’m glad I prioritised this question early on, and as my approach chose to sample opinions through thousands of years (some of them sound suspiciously INTJ from their writing style, even across translation lol) rather than just my own derivation and present day opinions.

[@SannaJankarin]

Atheism is the best because you don't follow others indoctrination. You have your own rules, values and principles of life.

[@zuzannatabakiernik9310]

My dark side of the INTJ is that when I have a runny nose I always use my tissue 2 to 3 times and I always fold it in half and carefully put it into my pocket instead of crumpling it and pushing into my pocket like a normal person. And I haven't realized that until my boyfriend asked me why am I doing that. I just always assumed that is the only way...

[@Desimere]

I have always been a very emotional person and for some reason, people always assume that that means having my emotions control me, but that is not the case. There is this part of me that observes my emotions, but is not affected by them. That is the real me. And there is the alternate self, who experiences these emotions deeply and thoroughly, with spontaneity and everything. Trying to merge these two aspects of myself into one has been one of my goals all my life. The observer/manipulator would have no goals/motivations in life without the feeler and the feeler would have no agency without the other, who even manipulates the feeler with intricate plans to handle emotions in a healthy/optimal way. They work well together now, but there will always be some separation between them. When I was a child, I thought this was because I was a Gemini and the two aspects are what I got from my two parents, but I see that this can be explained by being an INTJ with adhd, which amplifies emotions and therefore forces me to deal with them. And even with how aware i am of my feelings, i can still not express myself right so that other people could actually understand them. Not being able to express myself is the biggest frustration of my life. I don't mean that it's a big frustration, just that coincidentally i don't have much to be frustrated about other than this. My logic tells me that every other person is just as unique as me, they just don't always know it yet as they haven't been forced to explore the depths of their psychology, but my feelings are not so easily convinced by logic and need the constant reminders of delving into other people's minds. What i find strange is that people are so scared of the depths of their own minds. Like people who have never tasted alcohol think they will lose all control when they do, most people act as if unlocking the secrets of their own minds will get out of control and drown them somehow. So yes, I do feel like I stand apart, but I know I don't. :D It's as if I have learned to swim while everyone i know is just tipping their toes into water or practicing, or not telling me how far they are with their swimming lessons :P. Swimming might be a special thing, but it doesn't make me that much different from others. Besides, loneliness is determined by how connected to other people you FEEL, not how connected you are. So focusing on the things that make me more similar to other people rather than on what sets me apart is the only logical thing to do as loneliness is unhealthy. A lot in the video spoke to the childhood version of myself though.

[@lovewho]

This is brilliant! ~ Nathan

[@heatherbryant4197]

I find your description _very_ interesting! On the surface, it sounds like a metaphor for Te vs Fi, but it actually reminds me very much of the way I used to feel during times in my life when I was very depressed. I distinctly recall that metaphysical identity split as regarding myself as a different version of me. There was the version of me when I was depressed and the version of me when I wasn't. They seemed like 2 distinctly different people and each had a hard time understanding and empathizing with the other. Happy me seemed blissfully ignorant from the other's perspective, and depressed me seemed overly fatalistic and self-sabotaging. Do you think it's possible anything like that has happened with you? You don't sound like a person with DID by first impression (just to rule out possibilities). But the mind employs all manner of interesting coping mechanisms and I could perhaps see someone compartmentalizing their emotion in a similar way as a coping mechanism for extremely stressful situations.

[@sentricz_devkep7525]

Desimere, I totally relate to you on the desire to explore introspectively, and once you do this you see that there are adults that are actually children in terms of eliminating unconscious biases and even conscious biases. With regards to having a logical side and a feeler side and wanting to merge them. I think this is the INTJ-ESFP duality. I’ve noticed that I become an ESFP when I want to be extroverted, therefore we have a subconscious alternate persona of the ESFP. Same goes with every other type.

[@Desimere]

​ ​ Love Who Thank you :) Life story in a youtube comment :P ​ Heather Bryant I think you might be right. At first thought, i didn't think i had any stress in my childhood to warrant that kind of reply, but when i thought about it, i was quite bothered by all the bullying :D I didn't really feel too strongly about it, but that might already be a sign that i was unhealthily suppressing my emotions. ​ SeNtRiCz_DevKep That is a great insight. I thought that my tendency to get "drunk" when going through grief was just my brain's way to preserve the chemical balance, like Ella's "When i get low i get high". But this ESFP idea would explain that and so much more. When i am drunk, i become ESFP, and i start to enjoy the feel of letting down my hair and even hugging people, although my decision-making process remains very similar. Just my "powers" change :D But now the key is that the same happened for example when my friend committed suicide. It didn't really seem like an appropriate reaction, but i can see with your theory that intense feelings could push me over the line to the other side. I will have to see if i can make it happen at will, like you. I didn't think anyone would really read such a "tldr" story. :D I am glad to see you relate to this. If i was drunk, i would now send hugs :D

[@andreagreenwood93]

@@sentricz_devkep7525 I love your thoughts on the INTJ/ESFP duality! I have often thought of how the Fi/Se function block fits into my life as an INTJ- there are a minority of moments where I distinctly feel like perhaps an ISFP or ESFP. Another side, that I can't live my life by all the time or everything would derail, but a side I really do enjoy indulging.

[@ninjaviragszal]

Yaaaay! Thank you so much, such a great video again!!! Yes, I AM an alien and does feel like that I'm talking in a language nobody understands.... And when you talked about loosing touch in reality...omg you have no idea how much I just live in my head currently!!! That got me strongly! Especially that I'm finding it so difficult to get back to reality and stay in the present!!! I'm thinking, how am I so rational and logical yet I don't know why can't I perceive the present reality as I should???? Anyways, keep up the great work, Nathan!!

[@lovewho]

I'm glad that you resonated with it/found it accurate! If you haven't already feel free to go back and check out some of our other previous INTJ videos! ~ Nathan

[@mamu7976]

Love it. The Welsh dragon taking on the INTJs by quoting Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (the Scottish legend). This English INTJ is very impressed. The Ivory Tower- True. The Conspiracy theorist- 'not to believe them'. True. INTJs really need to work on Fe (extraverted feeling/harmony), so more people believe them. Se inferior- OK. To quote Mike Tyson (Boxing legend), “everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth”. 'INTJs when looking at others can discount the impact that individual values and motivations have on people'- True. Fe blind spot again. 'Introverted Feeling to an INTJs approach to life in general is very underestimated'- True. Man you really know how INTJs roll! Another great video- Thanks!!!

[@lovewho]

I love this comment! It's still strange to hear from people in the UK.. there's so many Americans everywhere ~ Nathan

[@awediomusic2137]

What you mentioned about the importance of Fi is spot on. As an INTJ, I envision the future at almost every waking second. I know where I want to be; financially independent (self-employed) and completely owning my time. My Te has helped me implement strategies that I am confident will get me there, and yet I think it's so true that all of this is driven by my Fi's desire for freedom and happiness. I ultimately want to be able to travel the world with the person I love, pursue my dreams whenever I choose and I use Ni to visualise, conceptualise and motivate, using Te to get me there. I couldn't live without all three.

[@catherinerhea6336]

When younger, the paradoxes you describe have meaning IF the objective is to fit into a human social construct that defies INTJ LOGICAL analysis... But as an older INTJ, I walked away from these issues long ago....their angst over my "alien functions" really never mattered; most of it centers squarely on their failure to control THEIR emotions- not my problem. My ability to give nothing to outbursts compounds their angst in rather bizzare ways... "A LION DOES NOT concern herself with the opinions of SHEEP." Regarding "conspiracy 'theories'" ... INTJ QUESTIONS EVERYTHING.... I immediately ask "Why do you believe that???" ...the INSTANT I sense or vividly view ANY emotional response to that question, you have essentially revealed your underlying attachment to that "so-called 'theory,'" never mind your subliminal admission/surrender to allowing another to do your thinking for you!!! SHEEP. 💜

[@kupoqueen8378]

I feel this. It mirrors my internal diologue. I never cared for small talk because it seems to have no actual value to the conversation. It's very hard for me to understand that sometimes people want to vent. And they aren't asking for a sollution. I don't like to engage in those kind of converstation because im not very skilled at consoling people. I try to fix it. I've been told my jokes aren't appreciated because it's very hard to tell when im joking. I've been told my face has only 3 expressions and that i don't invite people in to communicate. I tried to alter my personality because i had insecurities when i was young but it goes against my own values to feel like I'm not being authentic. I'd rather be authentic than liked so i ditched that plan. It gets lonely in my head sometimes but i like myself and I'd rather only invest myself in a few people who are worth knowing. I'm just sharing that i can relate because this is a rare occurrence for me 🤔

[@catherinerhea6336]

@@kupoqueen8378 STAY TRUE TO YOU!!! Acceptance & inclusion by "THEM" is not worth dropping your standards to accommodate their lack... I speak from experience... *Never be afraid to Walk Alone & Shine Your Light... For it is in Darkness, that a Star Shines the BRIGHTEST...* 💜

[@lunastariaspiritdiva8662]

I kept thinking of INTJ as more of a Wolf however, INFJ would be more of a Noble Majestic Lion, especially hanging out with the Lionesses and being social ~ The phrase is about a wolf being among sheep, and I kept thinking of my INTJ as a wolf all the time ~ INTJ are lone wolves ~

[@catherinerhea6336]

@@lunastariaspiritdiva8662 An interesting analogy, considering wolves PREY on sheep... Lions not so much. I prey on no one: I observe, then walk away, usually shaking my head... LION.

[@luisa146]

Oh my god that thumbnail! So cool! Since I started reading Lovecraft I'm seeing tentacles everywhere.

[@lovewho]

Glad you enjoyed it! ~ Nathan

[@mokyodai]

*Underestimated* . Hell yeah, totally agree. Usually people thought I am not wise enough to understand some things because their first impressions of me were either I am quite reserved or/and unapproachable. But the good side is, I've overcome to don't prove myself to anyone in regards of what I can do. I'd rather surprised them than coming up too intimidating just to be straightforward with my ideas.

[@prasaolplays4203]

I just love how accurate this video is

[@lovewho]

Thank you! ~ Nathan

[@DandinXY]

Hahaha! When I first saw the notification, I thought "why doesn't he call it the lightside of the INTJ?" Love this series, Cheers!

[@lovewho]

I was very tempted! ~ Nathan

[@joshuamichael4312]

As an INTJ, who's also a conspiracy theorist, and who also has always felt like an alien, this video is 100% on point!

[@lovewho]

Well this video was tailor made for you! ~ Nathan

[@heathergrahame9647]

I read somewhere that a weakness of the INTJ is their tendency to avoid communicating with others what they're inwardly thinking or feeling because it takes great effort to explain their abstract thoughts in a way which other people can understand. I've discovered that my own life improves significantly whenever I make a concerted effort to communicate to others what I'm thinking or feeling and share my unique perspective with the world beyond. Thanks for your videos - they're great.

[@pillsburydewboy8238]

Been waiting for this one! Thanks! Love the channel!

[@lovewho]

Thank you! ~ Nathan

[@brennanhilsher9276]

I really enjoyed the poignancy of this video. I felt it was very spot on and helped me understand myself better in some ways in how you tied it into the functions. In regards to the planning. That is why I relentlessly do it, anytime I am the only variable it can be perfect, accounting for others is hard due to having to factor in their emotions but that is the beauty of it. There is nothing quite so beautiful as a plan working perfectly... just call us “the Abolitionists of Group Think”

[@ahlagman]

ENTJ here with a best friend who is INTJ. We have really good chemistry, which made me think that maybe you should consider making a video about how different personalities can match up with each other. Not in a romantic sense, but in a friendship or a teamwork way. Do you think INTJs can match well with ENTJs?

[@lovewho]

Yes they definitely match up well because they can speak the same language, the ENTJ may come across too fast paced and reckless in some situations and the INTJ too perfectionistic and cautious, but in general, I think it's an excellent duo! ~ Nathan

[@ahlagman]

@@lovewho I couldn't have said it any better. Thanks for insight!

[@mariobros7834]

Can you emulate INTJ? I emulate ENTJ when I am working in a team which needs somebody to take the lead. I always wondered if ENTJs emulate INTJ and in which situations they do it.

[@cedriceric9730]

i love entjs, they speak - ntj , we can have a light chat without " degrading" the directness and complexity of our language :)

[@ahlagman]

@@mariobros7834 I don't think it's possible to emulate any personality. Because to emulate a personality you can't just be more extroverted, you have to think completely differently. Personalities aren't just about being honest, harsh, extroverted, introverted, kind, etc. It's about the way you think about people and concepts in general. You could of course change yourself slightly to fit a role, but I believe that you cannot change who you are

[@skidibidup]

Great as always, Nathan !!! I'm glad I have been a turbulent persona most of my life and had problems with my dad who is an intj as well, and other intj friends whom I connected to, which made me see every little unhealthy attribute in me mirrored as big in him. painful!!! but at least now I see when I am biased to using everything or everyone as pawns, and I stop for a second, I see when I'm overwhelmed to the level of paranoia and over-connecting stuff, or when I'm over simplifying chaos in a static statements, I see the narcissistic tendencies that our intelligence might bring us to, I see the whole spectrum of everything, I see objectivity with subjectivity in account and vice versa, i paid much price for that, but at least I can't call myself an alien or anything but human. every persona/type needs to fight their demons, and we're no exception, if not the most type who needs it. Thanks Nathan

[@lovewho]

Excellent comment! thank you!! ~ Nathan

[@Sharkuterie327]

I sometimes stay up in the tower because that madness is addictive, life-giving. I know what isn’t real, and yet holding those two minds - the one that is free and the one that knows limits - is a proud trait, even as I wish I were crazy enough to believe all the fine-tuned shit I can come up with. Thanks for the video... shot through the heart. ;)

[@lovewho]

Amazing comment, thank you! ~ Nathan

[@shuadabeast2565]

I sometimes feel like I'll for sure fail if I don't completely plan everything 10 steps ahead and don't give a fuck of human emotions simply of the greater good

[@lightandnightEQUINOX]

As an INTJ This is pretty accurate

[@Renly.]

As an INTJ 5w4, this is brilliantly and accurately worded. You put it in a very succinct and tangible way. I’ve personally described myself as feeling like an alien before, and the bit near the end of things being logical yet having a near irrational attachment to the way they should be was spot on. That and admittedly viewing people as cogs in machines, though it isn’t intentional. It’s more of an instinctual reaction in situations. Seeing things as systematic is what works in my mind. However, that doesn’t take away from their value as people. I’m incredibly loyal to those close to me, and even though I struggle to relate on an emotional level more often than not, their value to me as relationships in my life means I would practically do anything that is within my power to help them if the need arises.

[@NG-fk6wc]

Alien in a human suit. I like that, but I think a better analogy would be, like you exist in the form of a shadow . Visable to a few, but hidden by most and able to be invisible in broad daylight, around many . If I had to describe myself , as a intj, I would say that I often observe. Much like a looming shadow . Seeing everything, involved, but not directly acting.

[@abraham2217]

Extremely well-articulated and nuanced way of observing and communicating it. Thanx man!

[@bbbbbbb207]

Funny, I’ve always said that I’m cautious of who I take on as a friend and how many. Mainly because I calculate how much energy I’d have to devote to them.

[@matthewbrown6163]

I attended our weekly meetings & it was 1.5 hours of boredom. Upon hearing the issues raised I always had a solution which I kept to myself - not my position to speak. It was room full of ego's with me watching the clock as I multitasked by reading my emails I had printed when I arrived. I recall one crisis meeting after some protesters arrived & I dispersed them by asking them to contact our PR team to answer their questions. The 2IC came up & shook my hand as I never overstepped my authority but rather offer sound advice - as per our corporate directives.

[@mjr7910]

Loved your vid. I'm an INTJ married to an ESTJ (whew). I know he views me as a rebel and iconoclast, which is opposite of the traditionalist ESTJ. Not sure how we managed to stay married 30+ years. Though he is, imo, a sheeple I'm sure he sees me as just wrong in every way socially. I let out my dark, dark side very rarely as it is usually during rage and I say the truth but in a heartless and... ok, cruel, way. While I don't regret telling the truth I do regret the pain I have inflicted. It's like my Te takes over and squashes my Fi. But I am human (contrary to popular belief) and I always try to do better.

[@lovewho]

Glad you enjoyed it! Also, brilliant comment ~ Nathan

[@reithreithreith]

So this explains why I always read between the lines and apply the 'First Principle' to everything. I can't explain my thought process I just love to dissect everything and zoom in/out simultaneously. I'm just glad that I already became aware of the tendency of being too idealistic, that's why I always tell people to know when to become idealistic and when to become pragmatic. Thanks to this video I'm understanding more about how my mind works, although it doesn't stop here. Hehe. Being too idealistic will make you lose touch of what/how things actually are while being too pragmatic will make you lose touch of what/how things can be.

[@DianaJ01]

About that “alien in a human disguise” bit... I almost never used to feel that weird since I naturally gravitated towards other intuitive types, so communication styles, thinking patterns and all that stuff was similar; I was awkward during my teenage years (who doesn’t), but I didn’t feel that alienated until I started working after graduating college. . . . The office was filled with SENSORS ONLY. It was a nightmare. Never in my life had I felt more incompetent in making my my ideas clear to the receptor, and never in my life had I felt “weird” in that “alien in disguise” kind-of-way.

[@lovewho]

I think Aliens are underrated so... yea ~ Nathan

[@arthurloginov4722]

INTJ here as well. True, this is a good explanation. I have realised my life goal almost from the early childhood. I am not interested in academic success or career. These things are abstract and are not lasting. The Universe and life has many unsolved mysteries, sinister and dark. I want to understand the life, the Universe. I want hidden knowledge. For it is the only power worth achieving.

[@realitycheck8371]

Very perceptive. As much as INFJs are considered "thinkers" with Ti in the 3rd slot i would consider INTJs also a bit of "feelers" with very balanced Fi. Their Fi motivations are often overlooked. Double deciders are more balanced when it comes to F and T functions.

[@andryfebriansyah8070]

When im a leader in a group, i literally see the member as a chess pieces, i know whos to protect or sacrifice in order to fullfill the group plan, even tho im not really good at chess

[@1haniestan278]

I have no words...the amount of times I've been called heartless,"too logical", insensitive and even socially inept is more than years I've been on this Earth...sometimes it hurts but other times it just feels like everyone else is dumb. 😂

[@nailachoudhury3795]

Love the Sherlock Holmes quote! Also have you watched the money heist? I think the professor is an excellent example of an INTJ and you can see the Ni, Te and Fi all working together for his big plan. And you might like the show since you have an excellent taste in TV shows ~ Another sherlock fan

[@lovewho]

Interesting I'll have a look at that! ~ Nathan

[@mmikesell1]

Rather than having many contingency plans, I (INTJ) usually find myself refining and developing a single plan, idea, theory, whatever that makes the most sense. It can become serious tunnel vision to try and make that thing work. INTJ's struggle with flexibility, but being flexible and open allows you to see more possibilities (within which the actual "best" way resides). Good video thanks!

[@lunastariaspiritdiva8662]

As opposed to INTPs, who think of far way to many plans, and don't put a single plan into action, thus getting nowhere, and doing nothing but dreaming up more hypothesis'. INTJs at least do something, even if it is the wrong plan, unfortunately, INTPs usually get nothing done! ~

[@elliotbraim766]

The fluidity of any plan is what makes the plan so great. I like to think of any good plan like an ever adapting algorithm.

[@jenniferparkinson9411]

I am just loving this comment thread! It's an INTJ fest!!!! I like the wat you peolpe think. (ENFP here at home and missing her INTJ husband.)

[@qwecatnip]

The thumbnail is beautiful!

[@lovewho]

Thank you! ~ Nathan

[@ChantelStays]

The more I learn about INTJs the more I resonate with them, even though I type as INFJ. I wonder if being a female INTJ would mistyped at NF due to societal archetypes, and vice versa for men.. male INFJ would mistype as NT. Hmmm....good video. As always. Happiest 2020

[@ChantelStays]

Read this. www.quora.com/What-are-the-differences-between-INTJ-and-INFJ-females And realized the stark contrast actually between infj and intj women. Intj doesnt resonate fully.... it was a fun idea to play with

[@lovewho]

Ok I definitely agree about women being more likely to get typed as feeling types simply because of societal expectations and pressures ~ Nathan

[@lovewho]

@@ChantelStays I'll check this out!

[@17x71]

@@ChantelStays INFJ males literally always mistype as INTJ... Always... Not the other way around though (INTJ female mistyping INFJ). I don't want to delve too much into the details but it is absolutely ridiculous the extent at which INFJ men mistype INTJ... And it's due to the loads of information on general type descriptions instead of focusing on cognitive function differences, as half of a general type description would overlap between INFJ and INTJ given by the fact that they are literally half identical (Ni dom, Se inferior)... Ridiculous how often I've run into this...

[@ChantelStays]

@@17x71 I agree...mbti should first be looked at via cognitive functions and how they each operate depending on where they're placed! It's kind of the coolest part, surpassing type "descriptions" and looking deeper into each function. . When I do a straight cognitive test Ni and Ti are my highest with Fe close behind, ironically I score high with Fi and Ne as well. I believe any function can be developed in any type depending on childhood circumstances, societal expectations and self work etc. I dont want to quote anything ...but Erik Thor has done some amazing work showing the different nuances each type can have. I personally am heavy Ni...so if I am truly an INFJ I'd be different than an INFJ who prefers the use of their Fe. I suck at Fe at times and have a tendency to get stuck in cognitive loops. But I grew up in trauma and *feelings* and showing feelings were not allowed/stunted. ......I didnt mean to type this much- I tend to use KZbin as a diary haha. Have a good one!

[@Xhein]

Until i saw this video i thought: ¿Conspiracy theory? really? being INTJ doesn´t mean that i believe in conspiracies, i don not believe in any conspiracy. But, when you started talking about how INTJ´s tie different events together, i remembered all the times i made a whole story of an incident, conecting lots of things that would be normal by their own, coming to conclusions that would sound st4pid. i think it is because we like to think about one thing so much, from different perspectives, that it would get to a totally unrealistic conclusion, wich in most cases we now it is more likely to be unrealistic, but we would like it to be true, cause it is more of a beautiful and artistic storyline, and to put the pieces together. At least that´s how i see it.

[@coolbreez]

I am very much aware of the contradiction you mentioned at the end. The very thing that gives us immense motivation to go through any difficulty is the one that makes us attached to the project etc. And you must understand this attachment is very different from what usually people think in this scenario. This attachment for me comes from carefully crafting the project, like creating a sculpture from clay, every step and every curve is given a lot of attention to create a final product that is beyond average. The attachment here is more like a care for a proper process not an attachment like a possession. Even if I am not credited for creating that particular thing as much as other normal people would do, the joy of giving the best product and looking at your supervisor's/teacher's face light up in itself is the biggest reward for me. So people also misunderstand my kind of attachment with my work. It is damn frustrating to explain it again and again to avenge people who put substandard work and think that I aspire for the same thing as them. I would also like to add, in this context, INTJ contradiction can be summed up in two words: reason and passion. I would like to know what other INTJs think about all these.

[@ragedragon33]

For me it's the complete opposite. I want everyone to know all the great things i did. If im in a group project and did all the work, I'll do anything to let EVERYONE know that I did the project alone. im so selfish and i love all eyes on me. I even think if someone looked at me for 1 sec that means they think im hot lol. Idk if it's an INTJ thing or it's just me.

[@Shinebakaaho]

Love your vids, please keep on making them

[@lovewho]

Thank you! ~ Nathan

[@charli____e]

Just a random INFP here with a huge crush on INTJ-this videos about INTJs helps me to understand him more ♡😅

[@dabsol9137]

INTJs interest me so much, yet scare me in a way. I myself am INFP so I respect the intuition, intellect, and principles but I also relate to the loneliness they can trap themselves in sometimes- however, I’m afraid of the way they can dehumanize others with their logic and might use their intellect in a very cold and calculated way if they are that kind of person. Being driven by morals I relate to especially, though. But seriously, there is something scary about such intellect, almost like it is power in a way...

[@rv1377]

I'm interested in an INFP male but, it's curious to me that, I don't think this infp uses a moral code, I mean, he responds in attitudes that seems to hurt something inside me (my feelings? ) but I'm so aware I don't feel threatened, but I sense fear from his part. Maybe is what you say here, but I'm not going to hurt him at all. I know I can be intimidating, but why is sometimes he is approaching me yet others running away from me? Yes we can use that power in a bad way but not with infp's you are so cute, and we are not villains either!

[@mariah5060]

How someone have such a deep understanding about all of these types?? I just now watched like 2 videos of his and I already feel like he’s under appreciated...

[@jeanette2475]

I'm liking this Sherlock Holmes-based analysis of all the types hahaha. Also yeah this is pretty accurate. Except I think INTJs are highly verbal, just not in a way most people can follow. They kind of make up their own system of associations so you have to kind of pry into them to know what the hell they're talking about, in my experience.

[@lovewho]

Glad you enjoyed it! ~ Nathan

[@Zen36977]

Perfect description brother. I mean PERFECT!

[@pedroandrepiccoli]

I have never been so early for a video, and it just happens to be about my personality type

[@lovewho]

Hope you enjoyed it! ~ Nathan

[@shid.account7629]

You manage to cover a lot of ground, while being very concise...... QUITE GOOD SIR. I LIKE THIS. I LIKE THIS A LOT.

[@lovewho]

Thanks! I’m really not a fan of waffling or any excess words ~ Nathan

[@shayh6684]

For INTJs, people are experiments , chess pieces, or objects that are to be analysed thoroughly. I sit back and analyze them in a full big picture all the time as an intj.

[@zafeeranaim1344]

Btw any intjs out there who dont hear if someone calls you cause you are so busy with your mind? People around me say that i am inattentive and have hearing problems but i dont think so cause i can hear everything when i focus tho

[@tasabihyusuf8864]

I've never been into conspiracy theories in my life, they always felt unreal

[@perspicace]

I've felt like an alien ever since I was a child, and always wondered why. It's been so interesting finding out more about INTJ types and seeing myself there.

[@abhinavbajaj1005]

Did any of u get sort of triggered when he said that the dots should not be connected......

[@lovewho]

My bad! ~ Nathan

[@JReyesTbn46]

It took me years to accept that part.

[@christinacoon1126]

Thank you! You brought something to my attention that I wasn’t aware of about myself. Spot on!

[@infphilosopher8595]

Everyone of my INTJ friends said this was spot on. To quote one exactly, " It Doth READETH MINE SOUL! BURN THIS WITCHCRAFT!" HAHA... Good stuff.

[@LIDYAEIL]

Some dots shouldnt be connected is so true... this is where I (an intp) re examine the connections in my mind with various circumstances until its valid in almost every scenario( or has a good explanation why it doesnt in some others) , and then trusts the connection

[@abhijeet.kavia13]

Damn... Is this like a personal attack or something... #Hespect.

[@lovewho]

My bad! ~ Nathan

[@HLsteppa]

Dave Chapelle made a comment that goes something like this, " I'am one of those people who's so smart, that I am uncomfortable in the world." all the lies, contradictions, formalities are a flimsy glue that holds reality together. I don't consider myself especially intelligent, but I do find myself faking behaviors just to fit in.

[@mirmarq429]

I'm an INTP and wish i were INTJ so i could get things done. Like, i get the reasons for doing stuff, i just have zero motivation. Conspiracy theories, though? Those are the best. Love them.

[@lovewho]

You need to find yourself and INTJ or ENTJ to bring your ideas into existence! ~ Nathan

[@bluesherbet2741]

Same

[@brokencliche]

This comment section should function as Tinder for INTJs.

[@Shinebakaaho]

Alien in human suit goes for INTP also

[@lovewho]

Agreed! ~ Nathan

[@Chen-qj4uh]

Yhh..

[@brockolea]

Intp are aliens in aliens suits

[@jillweaver1040]

O you are so right. I am an INTJ female and rarely come across someone who does such a great job explaining the INTJ. Will you make more videos on this. For instance how during conversations, I am spending so much time trying to analyze the other person so that I can respond well that I get trapped in my head and miss the nanosecond I have to respond in the way that I am supposed to. It's like we have to analyze and decide what a good response is and then respond but there is never really enough time to do this well and it always comes across as stilted. Or how INTJ's are actually way more loyal then people think.

[@AlastorTheNPDemon]

I use Ni to connect unrelated things as my sense of humor. It's hilarious to go from a black Benz coupe on the street to Chris Hemsworth fooling around in a tiny G-wagon in the Taco Bell drive thru. It makes sense in my head, but it's complete situational slapstick when it comes out.

[@lovewho]

I love that form of humour! ~ Nathan

[@margos666]

'Secluding yourself to the point of isolation' - that is a dream I do not let myself to pursue too fervently. It is a choice in between what makes me happy and what is "healthy" (according to other people) & yields most results in life. I wonder if the scale of extroversion is simply where your Fe is in your function stack?.. My one is on the level of "pleasant socialisation is when you do something of a clear scope that yields a definite result in a group of people proficient in cooperating". My big leap in starting enjoying some social gatherings was assigning a mental goal to the event as "emotionally connecting with other humans for the sake of nourishing each others inner values and fulfilling mental needs". So far, I guess, it kind of humanises and disguises my robotic nature to a somewhat relatable level.

[@mariobros7834]

I don't think an INTJ would want to "emotionally connect" to anyone just for the sake of it. This makes no sense and is in fact what people use to hurt us.

[@margos666]

@@mariobros7834 but INTJs would have to master at least elementary basics of it now or get hard-hit later on in life. My mum's Fe trickster has destroyed what she valued the most. My Si trickster led me to the hospitals and things I regret. Baby steps and basics of 7th and 8th functions are essential, even if it makes you wrap in embryo position and hawl there (my pre-occupation over the last week, and all of that even before I started on the actual task itself)

[@frankcastle2876]

As an INTJ, I find that if I am presented with either 'motive' or 'opportunity', I can usually ignore just one of them. However, when I am presented with both, I can't stop myself :D

[@xcvd.9406]

God same😭 I'll try everything to hit two birds in one stone. I mean literally EVERYTHING as long as I got most benefit from it. If i dont, I'll get disappointed but I won't project it bc it sounded so selfish

[@jonlucchargo8867]

I had to cut off my friends because it had too much sway on my personality and was distracting while trying to learn a new high value skill for my next career and improve myself. Felt like I was stuck in a group/“tribe” where I couldn’t define myself or change in a positive way for myself. I could feel the hierarchy and my closest friend wanted to be the Alpha of the group which just made me want my own space again. Also socializing wasn’t doing anything for me anymore and was just causing me anxiety because instinctively my whole being was telling me that I shouldn’t be there... I couldn’t ignore it. Anyone else?

[@АлександрЗибик-ь5с]

The only reason why I left everyone behind, is because they only dragged me down after a certain point.

[@john_dee1431]

Fitting character reference from Sherlock!

[@lovewho]

Yes! Moriarty in the books is the ultimate INTJ ~ Nathan