The Day Before Developers Have Returned...And It's Bad

[@sweepingtime]

Day Before devs are jealous that Concord stole their thunder, so they're back to prove how it's really done.

[@llamatronian101]

Concord, a game that was technically competent but that nobody wanted. The Day Before, a game that lots of people wanted but which was technically incompetent. Quite the pair.

[@stellviahohenheim]

​@@llamatronian101pair of balls

[@kamiya4700]

“Our battle will be legendary!” -Fntastic probably

[@numberonedad]

whats up with dreamworld these days? that and ilyria are my favorites

[@therabidscorpion]

All we need is for Digital Homicide to show up and it'll be like The Avengers of shitty games.

[@Xevonarin]

"Our role in its development was significant." BRO. YOU WERE THE DEVELOPER

[@sinjin8576]

I think they have no idea how to language

[@Preston241]

I mean… that is significant 😂

[@Keshro]

@@sinjin8576 ChatGPT promt, bro. "'Make an excuse to this comment', *copy-paste comment*, done. Post reply."

[@BeyondTheZenith]

Not really, it was mostly an asset flip, not much development from them xD (this is a joke, i know what OP was getting at)

[@ivanmonahhov2314]

Its weird. But basically this is a developer with really high turnover and awful management. Its a new set of junior developers and old awful management.

[@draconis17]

"Unfortunately, our last scam didn't make any money for us. Therefore, give us money in advance this time."

[@TheGallicWitch]

they did NOT make The Long Dark oh god please don't give Fntastic's bad rep to the devs of TLD. Hinterland (the devs of TLD) are some of the most transparent, honest, communicative and open to player feedback studio I've ever seen as a player. Literally just this summer, they released an update that was disliked by the community. They immediately removed the update, took feedback from Twitter, Steam discussions and their own forums and are completely reworking the update with the feedback in mind. They support streamers of their game, even invite them to playtest features in advance to get community suggestions from them. Anyway, I'm back to being baffled by the sheer gall of Fntastic. I just didn't want my favourite studio's good name being smeared by proxy lol They (Fntastic) did make a sort of winter-setting top down survival game, I think? I seem to remember seeing footage in videos warning about Fntastic before the release of The Day Before. I also heard they abandoned it pretty much on release, so...

[@petespeedsxp4967]

Thank you! wanted to write something similar, but lets instead push your comment. :D

[@thecockneybiologist7065]

Thanks for saying this, I was about to leave a similar comment. Hinterlands shouldn't be associated with these devs. Would be great if Kira could give a quick clarification.

[@friendnotfoe]

Yeah, that was a bad call to associate the two. Hinterland doing a Will Smith right now.

[@panicdp5606]

@@friendnotfoe "doing a Will Smith right now" what does that mean?

[@friendnotfoe]

@@panicdp5606 search for "keep my wife's name outta your mouth"

[@kessy628]

Kira is genuinely braver than I am. I would have assumed that a pdf from these guys was actually going to try to hack me with a keylogger to steal my money. Mad man indeed

[@EbonMaster]

Thats literally why im here. I dont wanna download that shit to read it. Fishy as fuck. lol

[@gabrielkow8867]

Tbf i think these guys are too incompetent to actually succeed at anything like that

[@badboygoodgirl]

That would require some development skills which they haven’t demonstrated since Prop Hunt

[@markblacket8900]

@@gabrielkow8867 it's really easy to do, even they could manage

[@zscout1288]

If it does have a keylogger then it's because the dev clicked the "your windows has a virus, disinfectant now" pop-up.

[@josephweaver7140]

Honey, trust me! I'm a changed man! I've learned my lesson. I've grown so much as a person. I'll do right by you this time!.....I just need 12 grand to get this new opportunity off the ground..... I swear I won't just run off again! You can trust me this time! You know no one loves you like me, baby.😘

[@N3gativeR3FLUX]

😂

[@olivergottkehaskamp3369]

Has the same energy, lmao! 🤣

[@brianhsu_hsu]

If they just finish a good game and release it / sales it as early access on Steam, then they might really have a second chance. But Kickstarter campaign from a team that released The Day Before? Thanks, but no thanks. I doubt anyone has basic intelligence would put money to their Kickstarter campaign.

[@CityofButterfly]

Ever watched The Golden Girls? I would swear this comment was written by Stan.

[@ColinTimmins]

@@CityofButterflyThat was such a good show. 😀

[@lawlore]

"No unpaid volunteers" "Working on a goodwill basis" That is literally the definition of a volunteer.

[@DarrenWatson64]

"From now on, our development and marketing will be based on the principle of honestly" 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

[@lewanjosephnimick9359]

Love how that straight up admits they were consciously being dishonest

[@Malice6T9]

Again ??

[@keit99]

The principle of "honestly people how dumb can you be to be scammed by is twice" 😂

[@andre_601]

They retroactively confirm with this, that they lied on probably everything before, despite claiming the oposite.... I mean it was very obvious they did, but this simply confirms it now from them too.

[@Jorendo]

Followed by "We need your money for that, support us plx, here is our crowd funding tier, pay thousands and get a dinner with us cause that is super special lolzlolz".

[@cerebralisk]

"Somehow, Fntastic returned."

[@PwncakeOW]

I read it in Poe's voice.

[@yudhiadhyatmikosiswono9082]

Le gasp

[@machector892]

Like a braindead zombie,it’ll keep coming back until it’s destroyed.

[@zenkresnik]

I'm so jealous that you beat me to it 😂

[@Dragon-Believer]

Cntastic.

[@NerdishGeekish]

"Why is the Kickstarter goal so small? 14k$ is just a couple of devs for a month." Remember when they said that they'll have to refund the money if they don't reach their goal? That's EXACTLY why the goal is so tiny. So they can realistically swindle 20k dollars out of morons, and distract them with some flimsy excuses for why the game didn't come out while pocketing the money. Then they'll try to do the same thing YET AGAIN in a couple of years.

[@ZanathKariashi]

*weeks

[@MarcusFigueras]

It's such a pathetic amount of money to try to scam people out of, too. After the kickstarter cut, I can't imagine it's more than 10k. How do you fail your previous grift so badly that trying again with a kickstarter scam for 9k is close to viable? I know they're going to try to leverage a successful kickstarter for more funding,but Still

[@beardalaxy]

"We'll make more games IF our Kickstarter succeeds." Just... no. Make your game first and that's how you regain trust. Not by asking for even more money.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Exactly. They already burned that bridge. For a new dev, who starts out with a crowdfunded game, I get it. They don't have the money and it's their first run. They might be genuinely just short on cash, but have a successful idea. But not for someone who has already shown they can't be trusted with people's money.

[@Gamebent1]

"If the Escape Factory Kickstarter campaign doesn't reach its funding goal, unfortunately, we (Fntastic) won't be able to return." - This is the strongest case AGAINST funding their campaign that I can think of. No one wants them to return.

[@Korra228]

Ah, nothing like good old emotional manipulation

[@F_Print]

What a timeline we live in, where two games released less than a year appart are competing for fastest shutdown. Their kickstarter pitch is basically a checklist of corpo buzzwords, anyone who gives them money after this (and what they've previously done) must be damaged beyond repair.

[@vlarhellar]

Wait ... No NFT? No crypto? "We’re aiming to raise a modest $20K SGD to support our essential company operations, including basic salaries, until the game’s full release." $20k for basic salaries? Oh do be serious. Same people. Same grift. Scammers through and through.

[@Mortal209]

I checked out their Kickstarter and the game is literally just a bunch of assets they didn't create nor own and the entire game is just a copy paste of Fall Guys, they use the exact same Models as Fall Guys (the characters are literally just Fall Guys made into "humans") and the game is basically just a top down Fall Guys mixed with Human Fall Flat. The game is going nowhere and will go nowhere. The tiers they have are literally just scams. They want you to give them $20 for the game, that doesn't exist and will never exist. They say they don't own the rights to Propnight anymore nor do they own the rights to TDB, but they are saying IF YOU GIVE THEM MONEY they MIGHT make a game similar to Propnight which is the ONLY reason they even became successful. They created a fantastic Prop Hunting game with Propnight that was basically Prop Hunt with Dead By Daylight then they screwed it all up by getting rid of the game and tried to make TDB which was a massive fail. They're selling ANOTHER fake game with hopes they'll make the ONLY game that made them successful in the first place.

[@bubba99009]

They aren't gonna use unpaid volunteers any more but they only need 14k because they have unpaid volunteers doing development. Sounds legit.

[@blesthere]

They stole their new game idea from a Warcraft 3 Custom Map, lols. Literally the levels are ripped right from it... I think it was called Ice Escape. These guys are hacks for life, lol.

[@The_hot_blue_fire_guy]

Who even plays WC3 reforged anyway? I don’t know anyone that still does.

[@sigh-cosis]

Fntastic: We're back Everyone disliked that

[@reesofraft4166]

…Kira jumped on a hype train. And we‘re here with popcorn to enjoy this entertainment.

[@reesofraft4166]

@@Shizlgizl he's doing fine and tries to depict fn as good as possible - but this is still comedy gold and entertaining to follow.

[@friendlyspacedragon7250]

They learned the lessons alright. Now they've shifted to a platform that doesn't do refunds and a low enough minimum goal that it could go though.

[@JaePlay]

"Regaining trust will be tough" Thats not how a community-wide blacklist works.

[@Blestyr]

"Now we're honest. Now you can trust us. Not on Steam tho."

[@yellowraincoat.]

'We are asking for a 2nd chance'. BRO you've had like 32 chances and each was followed by lies, deceit and gaslighting. This is absolutely insane 😂

[@selectionn]

"yeah we did that. now give us money on kickstarter and MAYBE we will make a game"

[@mayuzanevideos]

Honestly I was expecting a different name for the rebrand but I guess my expectations were too high. Just sticking to that Fntastic name to the end huh.

[@brycedaugherty9211]

They should've just snuck off to make a new company and not even share who owned it.

[@Preston241]

@@brycedaugherty9211maybe they did and this is a 200iq smokescreen.

[@sociallyferal4237]

I know right. I don't know why they didn't just kick off a new brand. "Pnitence Games" to really show you're sorry. LOL.

[@YoGibran]

People are going to fall for it, they always do.

[@keithmichael112]

There are so many gullible gamers, that's why they attract so many grifters

[@emikochan13]

@@keithmichael112 i feel like recent events with ubisoft are proving that people are learning.

[@keithmichael112]

@@emikochan13 it's a mixed bag, but people are learning, I think

[@Exotac]

Not really. People tend to get tricked, yes, but not by the same source multiple times. People will fall for scams LIKE The Day Before in the future, but I doubt that Fntastic will be the ones who are able to pull off those scams. There's a reason scammers often go to great lengths to rebrand after pulling shit.

[@YoGibran]

@@Exotac Disagree, seen people get tricked by the same source multiple times especially during the big crypto run.

[@vanishingllama7342]

😮😂The Sequel I didn't know I needed till now! It's the show that keeps on giving!

[@Preston241]

It is morbidly fascinating.

[@neppity5887]

The double sequel, Michael the superbacker back without his air umbrella in hand ready for round 2

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

​@@neppity5887 I'm left wondering if "Micheal" is actually either one of the devs or someone they know. Their role is to get the ball rolling to try to instill trust with the public but I hope nobody falls for this scam again.

[@neppity5887]

@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley "Michael" is a kickstarter meme from 5 years back which is why they mention "Charlie" here. They spent multiple years consistently asking for a refund from a different kickstarter scam called "Air Umbrella" which penquinz0 (Charlie) documented in multiple videos.

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

@@neppity5887 Now that you say that, I think I heard of this actually from another KZbinr who covers crowdfunding scams 😅. Thanks for the clarification.

[@OgOssman]

Thats literally fall guys with a new skin. We are Fnatastic at ripping off successful ip.

[@EarthboundX]

So Stumble Guys? The most blatant game ripoff I've ever seen, that somehow got huge.

[@coolguyinc.1555]

Clean shaven Kira look oddly similar to Macklemore

[@iloveanothermanswives4278]

Beardless Kira is cursed.

[@creepincat7399]

I was thinking he was looking a little chaddish. Was wondering why

[@kingrainbow5432]

Don't do Kira like that he's an attractive guy. Macklemore looks like a character from Brink

[@richardliu8785]

The Macklemost.

[@Noxedwin]

I think Kira should Mackle less, tbh.

[@ijakoan]

If you peel them 3 little Caspians will pop out.

[@TheCFD_Dude]

Is it possible for someone to report their kickstarter for being a scam and get it pulled?

[@proYEEThean]

I'm sure plenty of people have, but Kickstarter as a platform has a long history of supporting scams, and, for all intents and purposes, their Kickstarter is legit. Trailer, playable demo, and more, Fntastic can claim at the end of the day that, Escape Factory at least, is legit.

[@FubukiTheIcyKing]

Nope, unfortunately Kickstarter doesn't do anything about scams

[@iamsatanjr]

"we're back, the day before, the day after, the months later, after release" is a very confucing string of words ngl

[@Azhiru]

Just to say; the Long Dark is definitely not Mytona or Fntastic. It's an actually really good survival game that still gets content, just somewhat slower.

[@ficik]

It was a decent game, but buying something that came out of early access as a full game, finishing it and it's just a first episode and there's no others. What? It would probably be fun to play the new episodes now, but I just lost all interest

[@Azhiru]

@@ficik See, I bought it after the third episode of Wintermute. but the play of survival is great. One I like a lot.

[@leonleeds534]

Forget The Day Before, who's this beardless dude that sounds like Kira??

[@skupipup]

New logo is just Twitch's in uppercase. Amazing effort, must've taken an entire afternoon to design and for GPT to spew out all the marketing bs.

[@maverickloggins5470]

Our number one priority is honesty. Honesty and transparency, our TWO top priorities are honesty and transparency and professionalism, our THREE top priori- no.. AMONGST our priorities are such elements as honesty, transparency, professionalism and innovation and- oh I’ll just come back in another 6 months.

[@ryokophreak]

NOOOOBODY EXPECTS THE GAMING INQUISITION!!

[@ImpmanPDX]

They're scrubbing it because I left a review that was actually fair and it disappeared right away. Since you need at least 4 concurrent players I wasn't able to actually play the game itself, but the lobby has a controllable character which is not great in the graphics or controls department. You play like a Minion guy playing soccer/football which could be fun in itself if it wasn't very plastic feeling.

[@almostfamiliar1704]

We saw how many people still bought our asset flip knowing what it was and what we did. How can we not? We want to make sure we get to keep the money this time.

[@gupdoo3]

1:54 if I was in their shoes I don't think I would be reminding people of the previous Kickstarter right out of the gate

[@Sundaydish1]

The audacity of these crooks. The logo is a Vic 20 font with a drop shadow. Are they actually joking? They should be in jail, not free to fleece more money from people.

[@EnderPlayerTV]

It literally looks like the Twitch logo

[@Dadwell]

You can report a Kickstarter by going to their page and scrolling down to the bottom. There's a button that says report this kickstarter

[@WalkerRileyMC]

They've a playable demo so Kickstarter won't care. Kickstarter requires a prototype or demo of the product and that's about it.

[@geofff.3343]

_Concord_ lasted longer, but I think it's a close thing.

[@blakksheep736]

At least Concord made it to the weekend.

[@isssma0]

The day before devs learned their lesson to launch on Kickstarter, rather than on Steam where players can get a refund.

[@DemonicAkumi]

I support them in their future endeavours. I was never interested in Day Before and was never going to buy it, but boy following the news on it was amazing. Kinda like Earth 2 or Dreamworld and such... so them coming back for more free entertainment? YES PLEASE!

[@Gabriel-kl6bt]

I love it too.

[@NoTaMu]

10:40 They stole Twitch's font and color and they (or AI) wrote a whole essay on why it symbolizes they are good now? Wtf? 🤣

[@Trancephyre]

I knew I recognized that font from somewhere

[@abbey5899]

honestly all of that stuff about the logo sounds like the sort of pitch a graphic designer would give right before charging a few thousand dollars for a knockoff-twitch logo, which I'm hoping is exactly what happened.

[@duntemdraws310]

That is what I thought about as well. Looks like the type of text I had to give in design school.

[@MontaguStudios]

The Gotovtsev brothers are no different than the Romines from Digital Homicide.

[@MotherSoren]

this 100% has to be a huge troll shitpost, they know some ppl are gonna fall for it and their takin the piss out of those who can see it

[@luminaxar]

WTF, they supposedly dissolved their company and everything after their failed scam..

[@StonerWaifu]

"Let's not, but say that we did! Win win!"

[@CFNightmare]

It wouldn't surprise me if all the crap they wrote was AI generated and proofread

[@Relhio]

All I'm hearing is "Our first scam wasn't meant to become that mainstream, so we're trying again".

[@darkowl9]

Ok guys, so Fntastic 2.0 failed, but this time we've really got it worked out! Fntastic 3.0 - The Quest for More Money Also, was that whole document written by ChatGPT? It really feels like it.

[@patentedorganism1557]

Take a shot every time the document mentions the words ‘honest’ or ‘honest’… Disclaimer: We are not responsible for any cases of drunk behavior or acute alcohol poisoning related to this comment :)

[@blakksheep736]

?

[@Kanonenwind]

I 100% expected them to be back, but damn ... that quickly and under the same name, with the same Twitter account? I thought they'd at least _try_ to hide who they are, but they wear it like a badge of honor! "Look guys, we're those famous scamners! Give us money!"

[@Kyra-qn3nh]

The 'new game' is just Fall Guys + Lethal Company + Chained Together.

[@MoonlitWood]

I had a really, really funny moment last night where I went to check their kickstarter and was disappointed to see they had somehow managed to raise $12,853 CAD of their $20,927 CAD goal from 10 backers. I then blinked, and when I opened my eyes again, they had gone from 10 backers, to 9 backers, and from $12,853 CAD to $297 CAD. Absolute comedy.

[@kefka40]

This is Digital Homicide part 2: Electric Boogaloo, isn't it?

[@ross_al_ghul]

$15,500 some is the conversion. Had to check because this shit is just mindblowing

[@Xport9]

They're back for a second round. Amazing!

[@josewhiteheart1614]

they're must be deep in that vodkas while writing this

[@Gamebent1]

Release date expected to be December 2024. They need money to make this video game, and it will only take 3 months and 15K to make it. Anyone who's ever played a video game knows this isn't even remotely possible.

[@Carnyzzle]

How many times do we have to teach them this lesson

[@Lornext]

It is actually the other way around.

[@TwistdTrip]

No lesson was taught last time. Whoever didn't refund had their money taken for a scam. They are hoping to do it again.

[@jsmith434w]

@@Lornext some hilarious person just bought the 12k package, so yes, it's you who needs to learn

[@blakksheep736]

​@@jsmith434w dw, twas a joke and they withdrew their pledge.

[@jsmith434w]

@@blakksheep736 damn, cant have nice things in this life. gave me a good laugh

[@ObiWahnKnobi]

Using SGD is a reasonable move, since it can be traded much more freely than the RUB. Also it is more stable.

[@Preston241]

16:11 The Long Dark is by Hinterland Studio and it’s awesome. 0 relation to this clown show.

[@acaldwell64]

How the fuck is this not April Fools day? Lmao

[@NekoNeko88]

Kira, compare the icon of twitch with the company one + the logo itself.. did they legit just copy / pasted the twitch one.. it looks so insanely similar. + would love to see a 2nd part to this when u got more info if they got their IP's sold or just gave them away / the ppl that owned the names just left the company. could become something rly interesting.

[@Choochinc]

There are as many things to pick out from this as dollars that they think they'll make, but I'm going to pick their volunteers thing. "We've discontinued the practice of involving external volunteers, and are now fully committed to a more professional approach." Notice how they refuse to just say that they will have a proper payed staff. They even still said that some members are helping out on a goodwill basis in the very next line. These guys are so bad at lying it's hilarious.

[@mochipoppins]

Eduardo is still head of the company and he hasn’t changed at all. Don’t trust any of this slime.

[@lordmontymord8701]

We make a kickstarter for a game that is supposed to be launched in December 24 or January 25 ... right, that makes sense. But then again, why should anything make sense around Fntanstic? The only question left: Who were the people giving them money anyway? It surely won't be the brothers themselves, right?

[@Esotericspirits]

The return we didn't need but the return we deserved

[@novelezra]

"A Steam Deck version" THATS NOT HOW PC GAMING HANDHELDS WORK.

[@cerealmama3879]

Well, that would be a Linux version so it's true, kinda 🤔🤔

[@novelezra]

@@cerealmama3879 There ain't no way that's what they meant. They aren't making a Linux version. I'll take bets on it.

[@cerealmama3879]

@@novelezra obviously, but in other cases it could be

[@RexCalliber]

That Day Before money lasted longer than I expected. It must’ve just run out. Is it just me? Am I suddenly color blind cos after opining on the “great vibrant new blue logo” there’s a yellow one right underneath. If the “vibrant blue” one is SO GOOD what’s with using the yellow one? God it never ends…

[@nagashtheundyingking4404]

i am suprised they didn't switch name or make a new company and try doing it again pretty bold of them to still think anyone is ever gonna trust them again after the disaster but hearing a kickstarter ye they are gonna get their moneys worth. honestly not gonna be all that sad if people spend tons of money on a kickstarter or anything else without atleast doing some reseach before spending their savings.

[@emoxwx]

Honestly, everyone who donates even a penny 110% deserves to be scammed, its not like it was a minor drama that you could easily have overseen or smth

[@redozmasoma]

It will only be bad if idiots keep giving them money...

[@RevolvingPotato]

The day before had a bunch of promo stuff that they copied from other games... now they take twitch's logo lol

[@SuperZura91]

Classic low amount of kickstarting. Refunds are given only if the goal isn't met right? So as long as the goal is met, they can run with whatever money over the goal while they release a barebones game. Surely people won't fall for this.

[@alexhndr]

So.. we gonna teach them a lesson again, do we?

[@gaiusjuliuspleaser]

I'm still not sure these two brothers are actual humans. In every video of them I've seen, there's just nothing behind those eyes.

[@GarretOakamber]

Like the Dark Lord Sauron, somehow they lingered.

[@ButWhyWasTaken]

23:55 14k is like 2-3 days worth of operations lol

[@JussiMustola90]

This might actually escalate to a point where people will give them money not to make game again. Playing us with 4D 300iq chessmoves

[@xxkillbotxx7553]

It's raised $2k, so I mean it's def a possibility lmao

[@3ftninja132]

Day Before 2: Money Vacuum Boogaloo. LET'S FÜÇK¡NG GOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

[@alfredandersson875]

The only scenario where a kickstarter goal like that makes sense is for one-dev indie games that are either small in scale or partially done and most likely 2D.

[@AxeGaijin]

A tiger doesn't change his stripes.

[@LupinTelegar]

Barely 4 mins into video, but boy am I loving classic Kira commentary on this circus show of a developer. No punches being pulled and I'm here for it.

[@GachaGamerYouTube]

i am more scared of beardless Kira, than some shady devs

[@ragingfurball5419]

I'd like to humbly request the return of the Esdeath waifu pillow to the background.

[@Nekros-t9e]

If Steam didn't mandate a mass refund and pull the game off their store then they would have gotten A LOT of money for an outright scam. Cooking up a new scheme but this time they'll make sure to get funding from a source that can't be refunded.

[@pinkiepie6443]

That whole logo blurb just sounded like what the logo artist was telling the company in order to get their logo chosen

[@METALmurdererOG]

I was really waiting for Kira to come at us at the end with a "Ha, fooled you!" or something... but no. Remember the Ventrilo soundboard trolling, with the "I've got BALLS OF STEEL"? I think we found em

[@Squatch_needs_no_heroes]

Yay another content tsunami for Kira on these scammy clowns, love it!❤

[@gwynn2528]

This is how it would feel if I found out Firefly was getting a second season. Or its like when you think the monster is dead at the end of a movie but the camera zooms into their face and they jump scare you. Anyway, how thrilling.

[@swayze_mane]

so kickstarter just solves for Valve refunding 100% of their Steam sales, its a perfect plan

[@nadtz]

This is honestly peak comedy.

[@YawaruSan]

I saw The Day Before was starting a Kickstarter and thought “I can’t wait for the videos about this.”

[@WalkerRileyMC]

They also picked one of the harshest on the eyes blue to make their logo.....it seriously hurts to look at.

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

A goal of $14K makes sense for, I don't know, a GoFundMe for house repairs or something. When a video game asks for that amount, especially if, as shown, they already have a demo, I also have my red flags raise. That's the kind of small amount that seems harmless, easily can overshoot its goal because people can be caring and charitable, and the devs disappear, never to be seen again (which sucks because for as much as peoole say they have no faith in humanity, people wanting to help with a game IS good faith in humanity and then assholes just take advantage of it, which leads to bitter mistrust of others. Case in point: The Day Before). I also honestly also don't trust them just based on their location. Could be my bias as an American speaking but the inability to hold them accountable in Russia concerns me greatly. Good that they did refund the last game but that is the ONLY good thing they've done. I still wouldn't trust these guys whatsoever. $14K can be raised in other ways other than donations.

[@arcticridge]

"We promise we will do better, with your money."

[@codygranrud6212]

They didn't even try a new name lol

[@blakksheep736]

Hell, they didn't even try a new Twitter account.

[@mhc706]

the entire pdf is just the south park meme of the naked oil tycoon in front of a fireplace saying “we’re sorry”

[@ghosthost2033]

Call me a lunatic, but I am excited, the gaming landscape is a landfill anyway might as well have fun while at it.