The Day Before Was a Scam and I Have Questions...

[@FaithForgedGames]

Eroktic had a video saying the devs locked the original game due to no payment. So the studio released the only version they had. Makes sense the way he presents it.

[@kazuviking]

Fun fact, every asset combined comes to around 4000$. Meaning they made 0 assets by themselfs and cobbled that beta together in a few months.

[@willbangura]

So does there debt then come from server hosting costs and all that? Because if they literally bought everything then there are no wages to pay so where does this "debt" come from?

[@Bag-Of-Hammers]

It was fun watching you play this game with such an unassuming, not ever mentioning all the controversy fun loving attitude and just having fun with it. You're a good man, Willy. I love being subscribed to your content.

[@Lestat21500]

It was an asset flip from the UE store. Nearly all of it. Even the city. They put probably 2 weeks of work into this. When they showed that initial gameplay teaser earlier this year and it was completely empty...yeah, that was all the work they did. For that gameplay video. They probably did zero work since then.

[@bikergirluk8059]

I think someone said they had debts related to server hosting. I think. Crazy shenanigans. I feel bad for those that paid for this game… despite an element of caution being advised by every man and his dog 😕

[@willbangura]

You would think they would have had a plan for it all but I guess not. Hope can only get you a certain distance especially when you operate at the behest of the general public and your success is based upon how much you are liked. There was clear interest in the game shown by the numbers watching and playing on release but they made to many false promises and it seems that may have come back to bite them. Everyone will get their refund one way or another so I guess that good but it's the annoyance of looking forward to something for so long just for it to die in your hands as soon as you get it lol

[@MrJGamingHD]

I think it’s crazy how they say they cared so much about the game and they quote put their “blood sweat and tears” into it, but are willing to dump it after 72 hours of it being released?? Like…. Why? If you cared so so much about your game, you wouldn’t dump it on the sidewalk so suddenly, clearly a company run by monkeys that haven’t got a clue about how a business works, nor how a game is ‘developed’ over time…..

[@stevemazza]

The only way to explain their recent actions is to attribute the whole affair to an intentional, pre-meditated scheme to leverage the least amount of effort for the greatest financial gain at the expense of the gaming community. It's easy to "Monday morning quarterback," but it appears as if the whole thing was a scam from the start. Watching your early access gameplay saved me $40 USD. Thanks, Will!!!

[@willbangura]

I'm glad I could help you save your money. i do try and just be honest and give people a chance to see a game for what it is and make their own decisions. It's a shame that this company decided to do what they have especially when they set expectations so high but I guess all it is now is a cautionary tale. Hopefully someone else can do the same idea but better.

[@beepboopbeepboop190]

There's no chance that's the case though. They're giving refunds on everything. They'll have made literally no money at the end of this. If they wanted to make money they would have kept it going and promising updates and not giving them until well after refund periods are over. To shut it down so quickly? They're making nothing from this. I think what they didn't count on was the gaming community and game-centric news absolutely shitting on the game for pretty much all of 2023 and all expecting/hoping it fails. For me this is like No Mans Sky -- oversell it, under deliver. Difference being NMS eventually made good on it and delivered an amazing, wonderful game. These guys just gave up. Super weird.

[@Solitude82]

If you really think about it they really did take the money and run, the city in that game is called New Fortune City for a reason

[@honeybadger9425]

Yeah and the description of the game they laughing in people’s faces. it wouldn’t surprise me if it was part of Russia’s cyber team raising funds for the war all along. Glad I took a wide birth from this game knowing it was an unknown Russian developer who knows what else is in the code.

[@jimmy831]

This is bizarre. Can't imagine another company will pick this up unless they can bring the employees across. Picking up the source code blind would be high risk. Hopefully the customer payments are secured by the distributor (Steam?). Good scoop Willy.

[@xcodename11]

It's a shame, I feel to some extent that maybe while it started as a scam, they really wanted it to be true in the end? Considering they actually went ahead and released something. I do wonder how much of the financial constraints were real. Maybe just maybe, we get lucky and someome buys out the studio and does a proper job at it but who knows. For all it's worth, I do wish for a better ending than this. Even if they did initially wanted to scam people, I was willing to forgive if they had a change of heart and ended up taking it seriously!

[@Nerd_Gamer_Buddy]

honestly i hope someone makes how this game was advertised. id like to stream that honestly

[@ceaserknk6640]

Honestly was a slap in the face to us gamers, for releasing such crimes

[@willbangura]

I'm confused what their thought process was over the last "5 years" of development... were they hoping that everyone would love it and not expect changes or was this the plan from the beginning... no one is that stupid surely, there's always a plan right?

[@ceaserknk6640]

@@willbangura yeah man it’s a conspiracy, they exactly knew what state the game was in before the release date & look what happened they’re shutting down lmao. Similar to starfield “in development 20yrs+” and look how that turned out 💀

[@Zminator1986]

Red flags are a plenty, people have been trying to warm people that there's something fishy about the developers, THEY ASKED FOR VOLUNTEERS TO MAKE THE GAME. But like a typical cryto bro, the fanatics called us haters and people of FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt) for asking questions. I choose to laugh at the stupidity of gamers for repeatedly supporting garbage and get excited for the next product to consume.

[@DirtySancheeezz]

Can't wait for them do make another company and announce The Day After Before

[@ImRaevn]

Hey WillyB, I've been with you since you did the first Far Cry 5 video. And this ride I've been on with you, all I can say is you helped put a smile on my face every day I watched you! I've been dealing with depression but your videos even back then on Far Cry 5 have helped me. I love you WillyB

[@jessicatimm559]

99% of the cool visuals are pre-made store assets for Unreal, they did not make any of it. You can buy all those props/buildings and just put em in the engine.

[@DavoJack]

Different kind of style of vid and smashin it as usual pal, heard about all this shi goin on wi this game it was never my type of game but it’s crazy to see and witness

[@tedhobgood]

Amazing! I remember Gameranx a while back saying how odd and…shady(?) the development of this game was. I think there were infringement lawsuits a while back with the developers? First time I saw this game was watching your video yesterday, then today I see you breaking the news of the game going away. Quite hilarious. Keep on playing other stuff and having fun!

[@willbangura]

Always gonna do what I do at the end of the day I like to give my opinions and let others see games for what they are without having to buy them, just a shame when things like this happen and creators get flak for playing it as if it's our fault the company screwed everyone... mental scenes all over the place mate

[@SeizedM0ney]

I feel like some company should buy the files and stuff and turn it into something players can enjoy

[@willbangura]

It could happen

[@docdockin6325]

I really hope someone that dedicated to zombie games and really cares picks this up and makes it like it should have been!!!

[@x570Belmont]

The city was entirely an asset flip from the Unreal Store. There's barely any work involved in this "game". All the previous trailers were all smoke and mirrors.

[@Cloudyskys1998]

I was super excited for this game regardless of what everyone was saying, I got it tye day it came out and now it's gone. I'm sad about that but hopefully someone will just pick it up where they left off and make it better. Cough cough @ubisoft

[@willbangura]

Agreed... cough cough @Ubisoft cough cough... we should probably go and see the doctor, think we got the same illness

[@bikergirluk8059]

I’m waiting for the Division 3… if you find a good doctor let me know pls 🤪

[@Cloudyskys1998]

@@bikergirluk8059 will do lol

[@w3ed420]

I'm 100% with you on this subject.... game has / had some bones to be something. Really sad they wouldn't try to keep developing it, I was watching the reviews for the game and it started off bad but then as they release some patches and what not the percentages were changing. Started off with like 15% positive reviews and slowly climbed to 20% after the 3 or 4 day then they announced the closure and well that just tanked everything.

[@JeffNyman]

The reason for the immediate closure is pretty obvious. The hope was for a deploy that would bring in enough revenue to pay back their operating partners. The immediate backlash showed that their projected sales were not going to happen. If they didn't shut down immediatey, the partners would have had more legal options open to them to recoup losses. By shutting down immediately, they can claim various types of relief while they negotiate repayments. They were, in effect, gambling and the gamble didn't pay off.

[@IV_RAD_VI]

being a dayz player I was going to get this as it very similar to dayz, and after watching your self and a few others play it I thught I looked good and had potential to be a great game like dayz but now, who know????

[@eatenbyghouls1849]

Assuming this wasnt a scam, i assume they were hoping the game would sell well to help them pay off the debts but that didnt work out idk

[@willbangura]

It's a long con if it was a scam so i wanna agree with you, but to just throw in the towel rather than the plethora of other options seems off

[@Wolfpackgamer]

there is a list of props used that shows dev time started late 2021 early 2022. Also i just saw they never payed anyone and the servers are 3rd party hosted so they might turn off next month.

[@kingofawesomeness5375]

I gotta say, something felt fishy for me since I've heard of this game (not that long ago but still). It had nothing over any other zombie game. No unique story, no special mechanics, nothing. I thought I may be overreacting but now I see it really wasn't made to last.

[@stevebarichko]

all the quotes in the load screens were like breadcrumbs they left to clue you into what was happening haha...."the only permanent thing in life is change." "one day all great works will be lost to time." they shouldve added ones like "this is a front for a money laundering operation." or like "we're scared because we pretended to know how to do video games."

[@Cherokee_Ryu]

ShillyB. You got served. You are part of the problem. "Something there"? Yea, its called snowdrop. The 2016 Division had already been made.

[@willbangura]

Find me one clip or anything where I told you or anyone else to buy this game... I'll wait...

[@lovecodwaw]

I made a video about this. I hope they sell the IP and a new studio finishes it. Because if they dont then a game like this is atleast 5 years away, if this gets bought and turned around its 1-3 yr away depending on size of the studio that takes on this project

[@willbangura]

From what I'm hearing I don't think any studio is gonna want to be seen touching this lol

[@lovecodwaw]

@willbangura yea its sad. But idk im hearing some things like fntastic just changed a games name from fntastic to eight points on the wild eight and what might be going on is they made another studio company and got funding and are now selling the stuff to themselfs at the new company with funding and bankrupting that company and to get distance themselfs and start fresh. Now thats bad and good at the same time if thats the case but time will tell. Because how are they keeping up the servers and why. Im happy im still playing it and dltrying to get further to see what end game is b4 it does shut down. Because if there going away why keep the game up. So thats why i think there selling it to themselfs. And then they have all this data on players, bugs, etc. Be great info.

[@Zminator1986]

Assets. The developers made the game with assets. This game is a classic example of a rug pull infamous in the crypto community.

[@twistedkorn4879]

They need to sell it to someone that will fixand finish it. It has potential to be a really nice game, divisionish or not.

[@Aero5000]

Ironically, this sounds like "zombie company" (the financial term) BS at the very least, not to mention shady as hell overall. As interest rates continue to rise, hopefully this will expose more of these scam companies.

[@40proofbleach81]

Tje fact that the game launched as a totally different genre than was advertised makes it unsavable

[@peculiar-coding-endeavours]

"The world looks good". That's because it's an asset pack from the Unreal store mate -:D

[@JasonPlaysGames]

NAKWON: LAST PARADISE from Dave the Diver devs will be the one to fill this spot. Their recent alpha has way more content and actual zombie hordes that react to sound.

[@willbangura]

The sad thing about this situation is the trust for anyone trying to do the same style game is gonna be greatly diminished whether you try and look at it fairly or not... the old sour taste in the mouth routine

[@mattleisey2068]

"Look at that, bottom left, of their own game.. as they give up" lmfao

[@whatssupersayin2591]

the whole city is on the unreal asset store... activision just rips of them too

[@willbangura]

Damnn this is opening my eyes up to a whole load I didn't know about the industry

[@Marcin79W]

My first impression was: It's The Division:)

[@davideberhardt6150]

Yeah, this was a scam. It was never meant to actually be "that game", it was a money making scheme from day 1 (probably even the day before, * ba-dumm-tsss * ). At some point they realized that they actually have to realese something, they bought some assets (apparently they just went with presets and changed them up a bit), they half-assed a "game" around it and put it on Steam. Plausible deniability or whatever. It was never meant to be ... it was always only ever meant to make some money and "suddenly" the makers disappear in a puff of smoke.

[@aka_anto9376]

plus they broke TOS on steam, steam states early access games should have the funds to fully develope the game and clearly fntastic did not

[@Souredsoup]

This game was filled with so many red flags; copied ideas from other games, re-used assets from the Unreal Engine store, using unpaid "volunteers' to help build thew game, etc. That city map is a $300 asset from the UE store. The game wasn't taken down because UbiSoft saw similarities with The Division. The studio closed because they intended to scam players and cut -n-run with the money. The studio has a history of cancelling / dropping past game projects that were released in Steam Early access.

[@85Bad4ever]

best thing they can do,put coding and others online ,modders would fix this game really nice

[@badboygoodgirl]

It all feels calculated to me. Deleting trailers on launch day, dropping two hotfixes, then all of a sudden they’re out of money after a bunch of delays and buying an ad in Times Square in NYC? Doesnt make sense to me.

[@willbangura]

I'm with you bro, the whole thing is fishier than a fish

[@daviiidavo5100]

Honestly they should of made something out of it like a single/ multiplayer survival type of game not a MMO. A Dayz survival game would of work too

[@vegaspowerlifting]

Donets this company have a history of abandoning their games when this get difficult?

[@empirednw6624]

Yes, they have done this 4 other times. They only kind of supported prop night.

[@willbangura]

I honestly had no idea they had done it before... that kinda makes it worse

[@xcodename11]

It should've been called "A Few Days After"

[@Waynerock77]

To me, it looks like they stole the map from the division, and then everything else looks like a paid asset, or even a free asset from the unreal store. I was looking forward to watch you play it Will and I was gonna probably get it myself down the road and it sucks because like you said unless they’re getting sued, it could be fixed look at no man’s sky or like you pointed out cyberpunk

[@specialopssoldier1]

lmao im just laughing at all the folks who paid knowing this game is a scam but still went and brought and now they crying for thier money back lmao..shout out to all the smart folks out there for not getting this because they knew this was a scam

[@triplemgaming7142]

It has been advertised as an mmo, then they knew it was nothing like what they said, still released it grabbed whatever money they could then split. Biggest cash grab scam in gaming this century. Feel bad for the people that wanted an mmo type game that they were blatantly lied about. Then they take down all their previous trailers. I'm drunk and can't explain myself well right now. But 💯 scam.

[@iandalcourt3384]

All Assets bought are what you are seeing. This was nothing more than a quick asset flip with not much time put into it... hyped up to generate as much purchases as they could on launch which was slightly over 200,000 units with the hopes that a percentage of those would not refund. A little under $5000 in cost for the assets... no employee costs... last checked approx 100,000 units refunded... even if another 50,000 refund and they slip by with 50,000 units that dont refund for what ever reasons... call it lazyness... at $40 a pop... that is 2 million dollars minus steams cut. This was nothing more than a scam and lets be honest... in regards to scams... pretty decent one at that... considering the take they potentionally could walk away with.

[@kizunadragon9]

they broke Steams TOS and their early access agreement. I hope GabeN sues them into oblivion

[@honeybadger9425]

I will be surprised if they can even find the people involved let alone successfully bringing them to justice when they are in Russia. I think it was likely a scam designed to get western money for their war effort personally. Russia got a lot of Cyber teams and things and financially they are up the poo pipe atm so people should be cautious with any new developer popping up from Russia.

[@shouygui4955]

"debt for the rest of their life" is what happens to people who go to college

[@aka_anto9376]

no the map was a $300 asset. plus they did take money early access is still in development so there for they took money during develment.i got a refund my freind with 2hours 10mins played had to try refund 38 times before it was sucessful.

[@eatcornbread6155]

they couldve sold it , there goes my 40 bucks , guess imma go play twisted path of renown

[@badmanglibert]

holy fuck ur channel blew up man I remember when u had like 3k subs doing watchdogs gameplay

[@willbangura]

You been gone a long time dude, it's been an interesting journey to say the least. Glad you found me again!

[@freakklomp]

when you realize that everything was the standard assets bought from the store. you werent far off that it was a copy paste city.

[@willbangura]

Yeah I had no idea about all that, just seems so dumb the whole thing, like a 5 year scam that leaves you having to give all the money back anyway... round of applause I guess

[@freakklomp]

@@willbangura the whole thing is dumb really. sure this game could be a lot of fun, however they botched it up so hard. some of the assets are less than a year old, so i dont believe the whole 5 year of dev time. in 5 years you can make way more than whats in the final product they shipped. also they have other games on steam, they changed the company name on those to keep it separate from the fntastic name. this is more shady than whats on the surface.

[@karlmarshall4482]

You could just throw one or two zombies in the division and it would be a better version of this game

[@bvang0520]

Its a rug pull. Who knows if they really worked on it for 5 years? They probably scrounged up some assets from the last year or so and told people it took them 5 years to hype it up.

[@lankey6969]

Someone made a list of all the assets they used and the total was like 6000 USD... They didn't take 5 years to make this.... the coping in this video is pathetic. It will be deleted.

[@willbangura]

At which point did I defend the game you donkey?

[@kimberlyandericrankinandgr4568]

This game is just a bigger version of the game Vigor. Vigor is a perfect example of less is more. I don’t understand why everyone is so surprised that this is happening!!! They did this to all the games that Fantastic made. Let the KZbinrs play first and if it passes the test then spend your hard earned money on the game. Why pay money to be a game tester!?

[@willbangura]

Well said, I try my best to make videos of games to show them to people who wanna see what they are like before they buy them, then when it all blows up all you get is dumb people in the comments calling you a shill when all you have tried to do is help them... can't win on the internet hahaha

[@positiveproductions6699]

Okay I know this game did bad but like why did they end support for it after a few days of release I don't understand that part can someone please explain

[@ceaserknk6640]

Because it did bad lmao there’s no reviving this piece of shit

[@sleepnt992]

Support costs money, and they have no money (I assume). The bigger problem is, that they did not implement any way to run the game on private servers. So anyone bought the game is screwed in multiple ways.

[@willbangura]

I mean yeah money seems to be the main issue but I understand the curiosity and confusion, why would they keep going and get into the debt in the first place when the thing was in the state it was.. as the title says I have questions

[@RAVS_73]

Time to try DayZ...

[@unknown_number475]

they either took it down to work n it more or they got sued, like you said, because otherwise it doesn't make any sense

[@willbangura]

Personally as an overthinker I think something else is going on behind the scenes but for now we just have to go with the fact that they couldn't fight longer than 3 days... that seems off

[@acidtarantula]

So you posted a video "the day before" it was announced it was closing

[@willbangura]

One could say that yes... 👀🫠

[@Spodeboy]

LOL, that was fast! What happened to this game "the day before" it was released? 🤣

[@GloryOfBarbelo]

Just play the division 2 ffs. Its a really fun good time.

[@Mikeal-70x7]

i dont understand why people look at this game as awesome, i mean the game looks meh, and when people understand DONT BUY GAMES AT LUANCH YOU DONKEY ITS GOING TO BE BROKEN.

[@karlmarshall4482]

I think it had to be a scam, what they put out was so downgraded and missing so much of what they said would be in the game and what kind of game they said it was

[@johnmcintosh4546]

or why wouldnt they sell he game to UBisoft

[@willbangura]

Honestly wouldn't be the worst idea, wouldn't be surprised if Ubisoft were to take the mantle or just make their own version

[@gooneybird808]

Idk man…I kinda like watching you play. They should have taken the bullet and made it better

[@watcherwatching5051]

This was always going to happen. The game is a scam using volunteers to build the game. They made their money from partners and the Singapore government. Everything they say is part of the grift.

[@JoeReltonT]

It’s fucking crazy what this game could of been , I was excited to play this with a few mates and ruin some poor kids day 😂 but they said nah that ain’t gonna happen bro

[@DOC_JINGLES]

I have answers

[@FearfulEntertainment]

Take it this dude doesnt know this game is a massive asset flip

[@willbangura]

No I didn't know this

[@Kolinilk]

WATCH DOGS 2

[@NeonSuperNovas]

Bro I said the SAME thing!! How do you spend FIVE YEARS on anything and just give up on it after four day lmao??? NO ONE is going to spend five years of their life on something and just give up on it lol. They’re gonna try their hardest to keep it afloat or try to salvage SOMETHING!! Them giving up so easily and quickly just shows you that they never intended this to be an actual game. It was simply a scam and cash grab for them, just like that NFT bullshit lol.

[@SeizedM0ney]

I feel like its a scam they quit too fucking fast 😂

[@willbangura]

Wayyyyyy too fast

[@LordChankaXKhan]

The idea behind it was interesting at least

[@willbangura]

I agree, just a shame it was a farce

[@A.Steptoe]

You cant bin something that doesnt actually exist mate....its a bunch of coding, nothing else, therefore, its easy to leave it. No one will never know what effort was actually done, and what was just copy n paste stuff. Sign of the times it seems.

[@willbangura]

I get you but if they did spend 5 years on it it seems like a such a waste to just say bye... 1 year maybe but 5 years? It doesn't add up

[@leonardcrisci7254]

You should start another channel that has nothing to do with playing games and everything to do with people talking lol

[@TVSNOWOWL]

Willy Boy what you and allot other Bunge Noob not understand is Learn Google on a game Studio Name, and you see Fantastic, is know ash an full coloured dog and redflags al thier game were scam and say we Left the game, You know it and the day before were same scam and Fraude and copyright unbisoft and stole name from the last before

[@willbangura]

I don't know what you just said

[@TVSNOWOWL]

you have understand it very wel boy@@willbangura

[@D7Woody]

Weren’t you bigging this game up 2 days ago lol

[@willbangura]

Yeah I enjoyed what I played, I liked certain aspects and even in this video I was saying about certain things I still like, it's a shame they gave up on it, I think with work it could have been great and I stand by that.

[@KingKongKasper]

This company is known for this kind of stuff. People giving them another chance to do it again are the actual problem to me

[@willbangura]

I guess not everyone knows the history of every gaming company... with all the doubts people had I would have been much more worried fro the get go if I had known their history

[@KingKongKasper]

@@willbangura eh, if you have been involved in the open world/survival genre you should have heard about this. Not saying you in particular, but this game was widely advertised as the next DayZ. Cheers sir!

[@PoppaWoody6969]

its sad when you think about it this is the way of the world now sheer greed

[@Kolinilk]

WATCH DOGS 2