The Definitive Guide To TQ's All-New 2022 HPR50 Drive System

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@nickkane5571
@nickkane5571 2 жыл бұрын
So as Steve says full power ebikes are a different sport, these low power ebikes allow a 60 year old like me to ride as much as i did when I was 30. For me its all about fun exercise. I still want to exercise and pedal hard but I need rewards to encourage me to keep doing it.
@federaldelii
@federaldelii 2 жыл бұрын
With these high tech bike people discover the beautiful nature of earth 🌍 again. Getting out of their automobile 🚗 boxes 📦 and feeling the freedom of going beautiful trails
@nitraM321
@nitraM321 2 жыл бұрын
what an amazing trail !! that’s my style, easy flowing,,no jumps, im old :’
@ilovephotography1254
@ilovephotography1254 2 жыл бұрын
I love to see this motor on an Urban/Commuter type of e-bike.
@ThomasSchmitzSPFC
@ThomasSchmitzSPFC 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they put this TQ motor on a Trek Slash. I would buy it right away!
@acarp4766
@acarp4766 2 жыл бұрын
Probably gonna come out with one next year... Just like Spesh did with the KSL. Love that bike.
@eddieschouten6861
@eddieschouten6861 2 жыл бұрын
Now finally there’s a virtually near quiet ebike motor. Just gotta wait for it to add half or double it’s NM of power😎
@curtiscooksey1340
@curtiscooksey1340 2 жыл бұрын
Rocky Mountain Power Play does that.
@markroberts7866
@markroberts7866 2 жыл бұрын
So basically if you’re riding an analog hardtail like me and like how a normal bike feels on descents, want to try a full sus but your 47 year old knees hurt peddling to the top of Fod this might be the best of both worlds in mtb terms.
@getstrongby4038
@getstrongby4038 2 жыл бұрын
Haha its a conundrum! I just went for the full fat rail as I couldn't resist
@MrMartinSchou
@MrMartinSchou 2 жыл бұрын
3:40 - You can't spend the last few segments talking about how quiet the motor is, and then BLAST music when showing off the bike in a segment without any speech. "LISTEN TO HOW QUIET THIS MOTOR IS! IT'S SO QUIET WE HAVE TO REALLY PUMP THE VOLUME ON THE MUSIC!" 7:32 - No, we can't hear your camera man running next to you, BECAUSE YOU HAVE BACKGROUND MUSIC RUNNING WHICH IS LOUDER THAN THE BACKGROUND NOISE! What's the point of talking about how quiet something is, when you refuse to actually demonstrate how quiet it is?
@halfbrain86
@halfbrain86 2 жыл бұрын
Check rob rides emtbs review. There you will hear it.
@md.moinulislam9467
@md.moinulislam9467 2 жыл бұрын
Very innovative and unique technology with a popular mtb bike brand.....!
@Offroader74
@Offroader74 2 жыл бұрын
Now we wait for the TQ80. I'm pretty sure they have this in development. This technology is amazing
@CarkeekW
@CarkeekW 2 жыл бұрын
I hope it ends up being a 90
@federaldelii
@federaldelii 2 жыл бұрын
I wait for TQ300 till 2035 😅
@miless2111sutube
@miless2111sutube 2 жыл бұрын
A very interesting bit of kit. It is a shame that the claims of silent running are undermined by the video always playing music whenever the opportunity to listen to the bike is presented.
@davidking3699
@davidking3699 2 жыл бұрын
Be interesting if they bring this same harmonic pin ring technology to a more powerful version in the 80-100Nm range for the heavier rider or bigger climbs...
@mcsol01
@mcsol01 2 жыл бұрын
They (TQ) did that already a few years ago. Look up their HPR 120S motor with 120 Nm torque :)
@acarp4766
@acarp4766 2 жыл бұрын
I cant wait to hear more about the soon to be competing Fazua and yet to be talk about Mahle x20 systems
@bananabear009
@bananabear009 2 жыл бұрын
Looks pretty revolutionary. Hope it would live up to it’s promises
@rgd1977
@rgd1977 2 жыл бұрын
Nice advert but I’d probably go for the Pivot Shuttle SL in this category.
@billderas3420
@billderas3420 2 жыл бұрын
I have ridden the new Trek EX-e and did find the motor to be virtually silent; however, the freehub noise while coasting was a tad louder than expected.
@KristianSchoeler
@KristianSchoeler 2 жыл бұрын
just needs to be paired with an Onyx hub then ;)
@CurvedSlightly
@CurvedSlightly 2 жыл бұрын
"This video is a paid-for presentation and brought to you by, TQ..."
@graemeremington3700
@graemeremington3700 2 жыл бұрын
Love it......Best Ebike I've had!!!
@nickclarkuk
@nickclarkuk 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a higher power version of this
@cben86
@cben86 2 жыл бұрын
They have one. It’s called the HPR 120S
@nickclarkuk
@nickclarkuk 2 жыл бұрын
@@cben86 the 120s is not a harmonic drive though. I am wondering if the flexspline component would find it difficult to be flexible and durable enough with more torque going through it.
@davisbradford7438
@davisbradford7438 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickclarkuk I just checked their site. The 120s also uses a pin ring technology which is essentially a harmonic drive based on how they describe it.
@davisbradford7438
@davisbradford7438 2 жыл бұрын
@@andythealien1 I think the HPR50 is an iteration on the motor drive system design of the the TQ120S. It's lower power, lower RPM, and tuned for quiet operation.
@swissride4k
@swissride4k 2 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable!!! Thanks for Sharing
@embn
@embn 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! It's very exciting technology to see in the world of e-biking!
@paularthur6456
@paularthur6456 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know if the motor is rebuildable or disposable like the new shimanos.
@brianneumann8848
@brianneumann8848 2 жыл бұрын
Is it reliable?
@BigMal76
@BigMal76 2 жыл бұрын
The Harmonic Pin ring concept is not entirely new , i have seen a similar design in the Automotive industry fitted to electric variable valve timing and variable gear ratio steering. Great design for use in mountain bike and will benefit many going forward
@Roaming50
@Roaming50 2 жыл бұрын
The new TQ is certainly an interesting motor and I wish them success, however Trek and TQ must be paying you a lot for the amount of content currently pushing this stuff.
@asifitmatters1
@asifitmatters1 2 жыл бұрын
Well EmBN appears to have become nothing more than a marketing tool for a few select brands.
@federaldelii
@federaldelii 2 жыл бұрын
@minerva What are you talking about? They are marketing all of them. Bosch, specialized, Shimano motors. All the world there are only motors of a number of a hand. With these high tech bike people discover the beautiful nature of earth 🌍 again. Getting out of their automobile 🚗 boxes 📦 and feeling the freedom of going beautiful trails. So you can only be happy to live in 2022 🎉🤘🏻💯
@andymoss4285
@andymoss4285 2 жыл бұрын
If you look at the thumb nail you will see it’s marked as an ad. Same as the factory walk through, and the fazua videos. It’s sponsored content. Man’s gotta eat 😂
@asifitmatters1
@asifitmatters1 2 жыл бұрын
@@andymoss4285 you can’t review some and then “advertise” others. It’s destroys any trust you build for the reviewer. I think this is the wrong direction for EMBN.
@andymoss4285
@andymoss4285 2 жыл бұрын
@@asifitmatters1 if you look on every news website, you will see “sponsored content”. It’s the same thing. Nobody watching these videos is paying. So the people reviewing need to earn money to live. This is how the wheels keep turning I guess. So long as they are honest about what is or isn’t sponsored Im ok with it. Maybe it should be more obvious though.
@PrivilegedPat
@PrivilegedPat 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve found even with my pretty quiet Powerplay with the Dyname 4.0 the most of the noise I notice is the chain through the guide.
@BikingBadwithTC
@BikingBadwithTC 2 жыл бұрын
Hoping to see the motor available on all mountain / enduro eMTBs.
@nitraM321
@nitraM321 2 жыл бұрын
50nm, it’s made for,light cross country style bikes, but what would be nice is TQ making multiple models, 50, 70, 100 nm or there about
@chargeriderepeat7024
@chargeriderepeat7024 2 жыл бұрын
my bbshd is practically silent when freshly greased and 1500w. Never had the slightest issue with error messages and I often submerge the thing.
@chhadmi
@chhadmi 2 жыл бұрын
Its not silent when pushed hard and already there have been failures with the motor anc warranty repair issues
@rjahn3000
@rjahn3000 2 жыл бұрын
really what failures?
@tomcagle5324
@tomcagle5324 2 жыл бұрын
How about a TQ 65 for the Trek Slash-E 160?💸 Then add a 475-500 Wh battery at 42 lbs...totally possible for '23-24🤟🍻
@nitraM321
@nitraM321 2 жыл бұрын
if i had to buy a new bike now, i would buy one with a TQ motor, mission accomplished EMBN :) good that i have three more years to go on my Rise, i hope Orbea will build their next bike around this motor, and Brose, fix your motor or u are a goner,
@halfbrain86
@halfbrain86 2 жыл бұрын
Orbea Rise with a TQ motor 🤤
@elderwitch8632
@elderwitch8632 2 жыл бұрын
Hm buy bike or new house.. ? 🤔 so whens the latest tech coming out, aka realistic pricing.
@CurvedSlightly
@CurvedSlightly 2 жыл бұрын
When a motor doesn't provide much power, they are fairly quiet by design, that's fizzics, baby.
@kilowatt8521
@kilowatt8521 2 жыл бұрын
I guess you haven't ridden a Levo SL then.
@danvalicek
@danvalicek 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, that Fuel EX e is sexy af. Finally a bike that looks like a bike!
@rjahn3000
@rjahn3000 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 9.5 I have 60 miles on the bike and love it. I would like to know details on the battery, do you fully charge it while in storage and must it be kept at certain temperatures. Trek's documentation regarding this is lacking. Cheers.
@nickclarkuk
@nickclarkuk 2 жыл бұрын
I looked up how harmonic electric drives work in robots and it made my brain hurt a little 😂 but well worth it.
@dumpyosaurus6765
@dumpyosaurus6765 2 жыл бұрын
apologies if this question was asked before, but what type of battery technology is it? lfp, turnery or otherwise ?
@buforc2020
@buforc2020 Жыл бұрын
What is the lifespan estimated to be on the drive unit?
@pipito588
@pipito588 Жыл бұрын
so where in the video is the part about engine silence or did I not see it?
@RideShagbark
@RideShagbark 2 жыл бұрын
This would be great on eGravel style bikes with the weight size and lower power output. Any Gravel, Road or Commuter style bikes coming out with this system?
@AlexandraOrtizdeFargher
@AlexandraOrtizdeFargher 2 жыл бұрын
Gravel bikes I don’t get it? Road but getting the leather fist in the bum. Hmmm.
@craigbest8644
@craigbest8644 2 жыл бұрын
I'd quite happily have one, bar/stem combo would be switched out straight away tho.
@neilbower123
@neilbower123 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a Trek Rail 9.8 & love there extended boost in eMTB mode. Does this motor have something similar? Tia
@nickclarkuk
@nickclarkuk 2 жыл бұрын
I hope the flexspline component in a harmonic motor does not limit the torque that can be efficiently and reliably put through it
@The_Privateer
@The_Privateer 2 жыл бұрын
Hyping up a 'silent' drive motor... and not having raw audio of the motor running. Brilliant move! Also... the harmonic and/or cycloidal gear reduction drive was invented in the 1950's - it's certainly not anything resembling 'advanced technology' or under any sort of patent by anyone any more.
@Guesswhokk
@Guesswhokk 2 жыл бұрын
It a shame with audio sampling. It a refined Harmonic version as stated it require many gears, which rattles and wines if using traditional harmoic drive bolted to a bike, but this doesn't (which is the innovation bit, patented as claimed).
@rjahn3000
@rjahn3000 2 жыл бұрын
I have one, the motor is not dead quiet but much more quiet than any other one out there.
@DadMichoMurphy
@DadMichoMurphy 2 жыл бұрын
@@rjahn3000 How is the power compared to the (noisy) Specialized SL motors?
@rjahn3000
@rjahn3000 2 жыл бұрын
@@DadMichoMurphy I have not ridden a Levo SL but they only have 35nm of torque vs 50 on the TQ.
@DadMichoMurphy
@DadMichoMurphy 2 жыл бұрын
@@rjahn3000 ok cool - so the 35nm of torque goes a long way on the SL, trying to get a feel if this is actually better
@bamlopez1492
@bamlopez1492 2 жыл бұрын
Can I throw in a request for us in the US? Since your channel has been a global delight, can you maybe mention or flash the Imperial conversions when talking about metric measurements for us less intelligent US viewers? Thanks
@kayakutah
@kayakutah 2 жыл бұрын
Is this the all new TQ motor that came out months ago, or is it really all new?
@luizcarloszimmermann5505
@luizcarloszimmermann5505 2 жыл бұрын
A melhor Ebike em termos distribuição de massa ; mais diribilidade positiva = ótima bike
@CurvedSlightly
@CurvedSlightly 2 жыл бұрын
What he said.
@luizcarloszimmermann5505
@luizcarloszimmermann5505 2 жыл бұрын
@@CurvedSlightly handling very good this bike ; I not speak Englich ( não falo Ingles , estou tentando aprender : very dificult for me ; I have 63 years old
@55mblindy
@55mblindy 2 жыл бұрын
HPC rules🎉
@idontlikeit.7822
@idontlikeit.7822 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like bookoo fun. Send me two on you
@nateums
@nateums 2 жыл бұрын
how much does the bike weigh?
@neilmacdonald2470
@neilmacdonald2470 2 жыл бұрын
Why get so excited about trying to make a ebike as light as a normal bike? Give me power and good software, weight and sound means nearly nothing when I’m full chat down a track. Ive come from racing motorcycles for the last 10 years so a 25kg ebike feels as light as there is anyway! Plus after a two stroker in my ears for all that time means I don’t hear the ebike motor either. Maybe you cyclist’s just need a bit more time in the gym!?💪😉 and some ear plug’s if it’s that loud! My kenevo seems spot on for me so let’s not get to carried away trying to go down one route as there are many of us who want to carry on with the big boy bikes! As long as they keep making stuff for all of us, we can all keep having fun, because that’s all that matters.
@w.josephcarpenter1374
@w.josephcarpenter1374 2 жыл бұрын
All very well a mountain bike what can you offer the commuter rider ?
@geckonia
@geckonia 2 жыл бұрын
I turn on ANC works great 😂
@Indictedheart
@Indictedheart 2 жыл бұрын
I hope one day to have as many bikes and run a youtube channel like this. But I am still on the cheaper engines I ride a Custom Luna X2 V2 Ludicrous
@ShredQuest
@ShredQuest 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing new tech! Why did they have to use the macaroni and cheese color way tho 😂?!
@embn
@embn 2 жыл бұрын
100%! It was so exciting to see what TQ has been working on! The HPR50 motor is pretty revolutionary for lightweight EMTBs! The colour is great! 😅
@Guesswhokk
@Guesswhokk 2 жыл бұрын
Smaller, lighter, low noise and minimal, shouldn't it focus on Road / hybrid bike frames than full sus MTB?
@acarp4766
@acarp4766 2 жыл бұрын
I'll probably sell my KSL and get the SlashE when it comes out in a year or so (just like how spesh marketing waited a year for the KSL). Unless the rumors are true and the new Mahle SL 2.0 is compatible with my current KSL frame! (Please god please!)
@kevincanham3078
@kevincanham3078 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not paying 6000 pounds plus for a ebike with 50nm of power
@chickenclips
@chickenclips 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@asifitmatters1
@asifitmatters1 2 жыл бұрын
Whats the price got to do with the amount of torque??
@cg1983
@cg1983 2 жыл бұрын
Yah true … I’ll pay more for more…. Lightweight
@davefreeman9347
@davefreeman9347 Жыл бұрын
I just paid 4800 which I think is really reasonable 👍
@Wolvie10
@Wolvie10 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a higher powered version of this motor no the way?
@igorgoga7985
@igorgoga7985 2 жыл бұрын
how quiet is the motor? Just listen to the music blasting!
@photobooksandrecords
@photobooksandrecords 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair the Yamaha motor is pretty much silent and actually has power 😂 How much did they pay for this advert 😅
@BHARGAV_GAJJAR
@BHARGAV_GAJJAR 2 жыл бұрын
all this is ok but why show ads to KZbin viewers when they are already paying KZbin company money for no ads ?
@Pete68T
@Pete68T 2 жыл бұрын
Trek Bikes with this motor are Too Exspensive in UK,I Know Good E Bikes are Mostley Exspensive Items ,But these are Next level,No Alloy Frame Version Either ? I Wonder if Manufactures Ever Consider What Realy Happens to there Products Value, Once they have Brought out Yet another New Bike/Motor Every Year. If Like Cars and Motorcycles there was Some Way of putting Propper Used Values on E bikes instead of Just Letting E Bay Decide What there Worth Then The End User Might be able to Afford these New Versions ,But in my Exsperiance You Loose A Fortune Every Time you Try To Upgrade as it is Just Pot Luck if Anyone Wants Your Old E MTB.
@jakelesnake
@jakelesnake 2 жыл бұрын
How ridiculous is it to brag about how silent it is and then play loud rock music over footage of it on the trail 🤦
@mxengineer1
@mxengineer1 2 жыл бұрын
Any comments from the TQ R&D people about a more poweful TQ motor with harmonic drive?
@mountaincruiser817
@mountaincruiser817 2 жыл бұрын
Seen enough moobs for today.
@Tony_P
@Tony_P 2 жыл бұрын
best comment! 🤣
@DaBinChe
@DaBinChe 2 жыл бұрын
Now I'm just waiting for this motor to come out on other brands/suspension design. Just don't like the single pivot design
@paal6846
@paal6846 2 жыл бұрын
Neat video, but its the 999th generic one of a TQ without a Fazua ride 60 comparison... cmon guys, thats the main thing we want. Not the same BS we can have A N Y W H E R E else online ;)
@CarkeekW
@CarkeekW 2 жыл бұрын
104 challenge time
@ShaneHarderPhoto
@ShaneHarderPhoto 2 жыл бұрын
Note to the editor, when you’re talking about how silent it is, please let us hear that instead of music. Incredibly annoying.
@Kenneynrg
@Kenneynrg 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t it be great if drive units could be modular like say every other component and a choice could be made to change out to a updated unit from any manufacturer !!
@jaycarneygiants
@jaycarneygiants 2 жыл бұрын
So funny how certain ebike riders want silent and invisible motors... I wonder why that is?
@embn
@embn 2 жыл бұрын
A minimalistic design approach is always great for things like weight and rider experience, but maybe people don't want to admit they're being boosted up climbs!😅😉
@jaycarneygiants
@jaycarneygiants 2 жыл бұрын
@@embn exactly 😁
@user-of9px7gg9e
@user-of9px7gg9e 2 жыл бұрын
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@MAXlMUS
@MAXlMUS 2 жыл бұрын
8:04 - wow that sucks
@gzahnd
@gzahnd Жыл бұрын
You certainly talked a lot about how quiet it is, but you talked over it the entire time. Put a mic by the motor, ride, and let us listen.
@chrismade123
@chrismade123 2 жыл бұрын
NO displays are not in right position, its blocking the posibility to put bike bags there! and its not true that talking next to other motors is a problem.
@neilvan3779
@neilvan3779 2 жыл бұрын
Bait
@donjon1733
@donjon1733 Жыл бұрын
talking about the noise level while music is blasting. ugh!!!!
@asifitmatters1
@asifitmatters1 2 жыл бұрын
This doesn’t feel like a review or a guide, but like a home shopping channel segment for the Trek Fuel. It has all the tacky segments from “experts”, engineers and a presenter who appears to be able to find no faults at all despite being “independent”… EMBN needs to do better. You are losing part of your audience…
@mikebirkett010
@mikebirkett010 2 жыл бұрын
Ahrgggggggg Fewer, not Less.........
@djvojtan
@djvojtan 2 жыл бұрын
Next time don't wear a black t-shirt when you're showing off a black motor ;)
@newbeginnings8566
@newbeginnings8566 2 жыл бұрын
EMB are really losing the plot.. The other day we had the Bosch Racing Motor - they said it was faster and more powerful - it was neither... Next we have the near silent motor drowned out by load background music so we can't appreciate it.... They seem happy to take advertising money for new products that don't offer anything better or new... They are happy to tell stories and cover up details to fool us riders..very disappointing practises EMB...
@martinschaake1638
@martinschaake1638 2 жыл бұрын
c'mon really,,, How old now is Bafangs BB range with power to burn, ohh and seriously quiet! Get your head out of the sand EMNB.
@drTeddyJo
@drTeddyJo 2 жыл бұрын
too many cases of motor failures!
@editname3502
@editname3502 2 жыл бұрын
Seems so odd to me but these guys always wear a baseball hat so they appear youthful
@embn
@embn 2 жыл бұрын
The secret to looking young! 😅😉
@KevinFoley
@KevinFoley 2 жыл бұрын
A bit over-baked
@dani777dani
@dani777dani Жыл бұрын
they stole harmonic drive and udated as harminic pin drive :)))))))))))))))))
@lazarusdifiore1187
@lazarusdifiore1187 2 жыл бұрын
talk less about brain size and weight please
@sylvainbernaers
@sylvainbernaers 2 жыл бұрын
then they cannot hear your are a fake
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