The Deprogram Episode 140 - More Like Project Stupid

[@PatrickCervantez]

I for one applaud Yugopnik's unwavering determination to cycle through every conceivable tobacco product on earth until he runs out of lateral moves and is forced to actually quit smoking for good. Sure he's stalling, but let's appreciate the dedication.

[@Expiredmilk47]

Once he starts boofing it I think the lateral moves will have been exhausted and he will be forced into Orthodox Catholicism as a cope

[@nicholascharles9625]

​@@Expiredmilk47"orthodox" "catholicism" pick one

[@Expiredmilk47]

@@nicholascharles9625 I have no memory of writing this I’m almost certain I was blackout something. Thank you for bringing this comment back to my attention upon sober reflection I have no idea what I was thinking or trying to say. Have a wonderful day internet stranger

[@brianadlich4406]

@@Expiredmilk47 every time I see notifications on this site I wonder what I wrote last night.

[@fishofthepeople]

@@PatrickCervantez sure, he's stalling... But is he Josef Stalling?

[@iraviya]

IME, this is just how medical people are. They talk about gross shit constantly because they are completely unfazed by it. Basically, there are three things that give me absolute certainty that this man is a doctor. That is one of them, and the other two are that he complains about EMR systems and is perpetually tired. He may have saved someone's life that day, but he'll tell you about that AFTER he tells you about the free sandwich he found in the fridge and a recent patient's fascinating self-inflicted penis injury. Never change ♥

[@DinoCism]

Who this channel should really have on as a guest is Rania Khalek, or any of the hosts from BreakThrough News. Finding a ML news source that is that consistently spot on with anti-imperialist analysis has been a godsend. Definitely fits with the internationalist bent of this podcast.

[@mahoganeybennett7151]

Everytime you boys are all together it's such a banger. I never miss an episode and I never will.

[@WheretheWillowsGrow]

Ppl be acting like everything in project 2025 hasn’t already been happening for years now

[@Rompelstaump]

The xhristo fash Reich is marching through churches everywhere around me in the deep south

[@Rompelstaump]

Their flags are hanging from churches everywhere now

[@bosrobb]

More like project bofa

[@deptusmechanikus7362]

More like project Deez

[@ateium2409]

what is bofa ?

[@redlion45]

​@@ateium2409 bofa deez nuts

[@MarinaInChains]

​@@ateium2409 a simplified dialect of sugondeese

[@Haithem-br9nh]

​@@ateium2409bofa deez towers

[@April-zr4bi]

I'm so glad hakim actually put it into words: I view the US' imperialist violence similar to the laws of thermodynamics; you can't take it away, it can only change "forms," those forms being exerted outward to some third world country, or inward on itself on our own population. Liberals won’t care about the violence, so long as it's projected somewhere else that they can ignore (cough cough Palestine), but them being all up in arms about preventing a Trump presidency and this "incoming fascism" is only because it's inconveniencing /them/. Living in Florida as a trans minor, DeSantis has been enacting his own "Project 2025" the last few years (a project 2021 if you will), with an onslaught of book bans, anti-trans bills, and attacks towards government agencies and labor laws. And the liberals outside of Florida don't really care! They just see FL (as well as Alabama, Mississippi, etc.) as these backwards, regressive states that nobody should care about. It doesn't directly affect them, so they don't care. Then they act like a Harris presidency would make things better, as if these things haven't been happening all under democratic leadership (the last 4 years have been worse for me as a queer person than all of Trump's presidency, not to mention Roe's overturn)! At BEST a Kamala presidency will keep things as they are, but the current situation in the US is unacceptable! It's not a "lesser evil" if things are actively getting worse under the supposedly progressive party.

[@salce_with_onion]

oi wei it is like "does not bother me, does not exist at all" rules the goddamn world. Total majority of humankind does not care about anyone but themselves. Even P2025 got some attention only because of mainstream media.

[@WheretheWillowsGrow]

Lesser evil fans when the lesser evil is still evil :o

[@dumpstercast-refuseradio8429]

Good insights, thank you for posting.

[@MalitoSC]

Exactly, it is the so-called "progressive"(non ML) that actively ignores and protects fascism.

[@cybonol]

no way i follow you on tiktok

[@devonroland6439]

Oh no, Who is going to tell Hakim and Yugo about Biden? I know JT doesn't play any news in the basement...

[@hug_bug]

the episodes come out a week after recording i think, probably they'll metion it in the next one

[@nicholascharles9625]

​@@hug_bugkinda funny it got recorded before Biden dropped out but released just after. Aged like milk upon release lol

[@thepeacefulenemy4026]

@@nicholascharles9625you say that as though replacing him with Kamala changes anything.

[@gwynbleidd1917]

​@@thepeacefulenemy4026i mean, it changes the odds of the dems winning. But it doesn't matter which war criminal holds the oval office. Both parties are controlled by the bourgeoisie.

[@israelvaldivia2686]

Biden is out of the race and now we got Harris🤣🤣💀

[@TennesseeJed]

Love ❤ to be deprogrammed! I also love to listen to the entire theme song, sometimes twice!

[@xbeheritx8323]

you guys are the best.

[@jesusramones1]

Oh man, if the revolution requires reading then idk if it’s gonna happen

[@thematronsmilitia]

It's okay we got audiobooks

[@simiv.]

just make marxist tiktoks with the conspiracy AI voice side-by-side with subway surfers

[@danielvanhuizen1253]

Lol we actually need this

[@JohnnyTheWolf-d3p]

American liberals: "Quick! What would Lin-Manuel Miranda do?"

[@fightthepowerman]

"Get Taylor on the phone!!"

[@aestradademoscou]

Crime occurs. Nothing happens. Hamburger.

[@fightthepowerman]

This is profound

[@robertusaugustus2003]

Bro

[@dolphone6748]

More like the house of gooners

[@kylezo]

"don't miss next time" is the same joke that Kyle Gass made on stage that made Jack Black decide he needed to break up tenacious D and their friendship. this is why you should never look up to anyone lol i thought we could trust jack black ffs

[@Syrenkai]

Jack wants to keep getting that Nintendo money.

[@dolphone6748]

More like the supreme balls

[@UnitedMuhim]

I accidentally bought a 50mg iceberg as I didn't know the strength, I damn well almost evaporated.

[@shamebegone]

Beastiality of american politics is honestly something that could pass for a way to explain a Lot of what happens in there

[@himpim642]

on other hand i wonultn be suprised if ameicans recongnise bestiality as sexual preference.

[@lukesmith8896]

I eat while listening to this all the time

[@lmao_tse_tung]

Like the Molchat Doma album poster!

[@Nyota7766]

Let us dive into this ep.

[@deptusmechanikus7362]

Literally project 1489

[@talhahtaco2035]

Literally 1948

[@faizanajeeb9748]

Literally 1984

[@Matzu-Music]

Literally 1894

[@talhahtaco2035]

@@Matzu-Music literally 9184

[@ParanormanActivityCenterCD-ROM]

Literally Madden 1998 for Dreamcast

[@seamussc]

Constantine was of Illyrian origin, so in this case it does track. Now was he from a group modern Albanians descend from? It's plausible, but not really known for certain either.

[@abody499]

2024 already has *Sir Kid Starver* having been newly handed the keys. He will be trusty north Atlantic lieutenant for the Commander in Chief.

[@fightthepowerman]

"Whats that daddy? Yes, I'll try to stop the ICC, yes... haha, I love that I get to starve kids at home and help you guys starve them abroad haha... what? Yes, haha. It's the fact that they're most vulnerable people possible, yes, really adds to the satisfaction" - Kier on the phone to the US state department last week, probably

[@fishofthepeople]

I did the alcohol x lifespan maths... been dead since 2010

[@superbeltman6197]

How does this Iraqi who’s never lived in an English speaking country have a better vocabulary than me

[@Moody.Smiruai]

Education

[@FeiFongWang]

They learn actual English instead of the brain rot slang that Zoomers treat like a language

[@jacborne614]

he learned

[@4marra]

large brain size

[@Cursed_Fruit]

English is very useful in the middle east and north africa, thus they’re very english literate (also they did have a - sudden influx of native speakers cuz of… a surprise visit… 🫠)

[@floyddean-dp4wi]

i think since im not allowed to retire, taking months off of my life is exactly! what i would wanna do. lol

[@albertcapley6894]

New lore confirmed: Yugo dips snus, it is important not to be confused with dippin snuf🤣 The redneckification process continues I see.

[@fightthepowerman]

Redneck are Bulkan confirmed?

[@brianadlich4406]

Fine cigars are the only worthwhile tobacco product.

[@homieslice1996]

Is it possible to anonymously contact Deprogram (not an episode but a consultation thing to share the following perspective and take notes)? Regarding countering fascism. Georgi Dimitrov (who was charged with starting the Reichstag Fire after Hitler took power) wrote between around 1933 and 1939 about using the positive aspects of a country’s history to take the patriotism for the working class of the given country. We have to apply that in the US, otherwise we would make the same mistakes as previous communist parties who didn’t touch their country’s positive aspects. I have done research, despite how much negative history is in the US, and have found positive history based on many struggles of the American people against their exploitative and often unconstitutional government. The things y’all critiqued about “Liberty”, need to be concrete - Liberty involves consent, which relates to the constitutional precedents over time. Simply put: combining positive movements through our history even before Marxism came here with the precedent changes of the constitution itself is fully compatible. If that is ignored, then the already powerful reactionaries will have the means to screw us all over. I find that the best way to read the constitution: Preamble, the 1787 version, the 1791 Bill of Rights, and the amendments that followed. The goals of ML thought is pro-socialism and anti-imperialism seen through the property question. Because people have seen the constitution as illegitimate (which it would need an amendment to peacefully change it to another constitution in the same way that the 1787 document was enacted from the Articles of Confederation), the reactionaries who wrote Prohect 2025 have a way to force that crap upon us - because the left and even liberals never follow the constitution and refuse to use it. The left is, in its concrete goals, more unconsciously-constitutionally minded but they refuse to use that tradition to make a better country. That is what opened the door to the crazy shit in Project 2025; it has many unconstitutional abominations, but the left (and I had made the mistakes the left has made) has to wield the constitution as a weapon for communism and social LIBERTIES (like being gay, having rights, etc). To show that communists actually defend the constitution will show the reactionaries to be traitors. Project 2025, and fascism, is unconstitutional even if they get elected to do it (it isn’t technically legal, but the left threw out the constitution and thus opened the door for reactionary tyranny).

[@NaymitMayne]

I feel weird after getting deprogrammed

[@FrostRare]

I think it’s interesting to regard the idea of “freedom” as it is used by the American right as implicitly bearing the qualifier “free FROM”. Adding “from” to wherever they use the word clarifies what El they’re truly talking about. We want to give every American their right to freedom FROM (LGBTQ, BIPOC, Social welfare, ideological opposition, etc.). This may seem obvious, but their abuse of the word is being laid bear for what it is.

[@Atoll-ok1zm]

I think the strongest nicotine pouches I've seen in the states are 10mg. Know a couple guys who had one as their first experience with nicotine and you would have thought they were dying. Luckily we were at a tailgate so they were hardly the only ones lying on the ground suffering. They were perfectly fine an hour later at least. Can't even imagine what 70mg could do to somebody.

[@fightthepowerman]

Must've sucked but it's pretty funny imagining nicotine causing that. Imagine the bros didn't let them forget that one.

[@AlienatedQc]

Yeah! I mean, 130m? I thought they knew how to shoot a gun in america!

[@RooneyMac]

Three goddamn fucking commercial interruptions not even 20 minutes in, ALL OF THEM FUCKING INFOMERCIALS

[@TroubledTrooper]

Thumbnail made me think for split second... "Guest: Donald Trump"

[@ZagrebBundist]

32:47 Does anyone know what book Hakim is referring to?

[@YaBoiHakim]

Losurdo's Liberalism a counter history.

[@ZagrebBundist]

@@YaBoiHakim Thank you so much!

[@sebroki4679]

doc gave us the green light, fuck this vape zyns it is

[@etspiritus]

✊🏾✌🏾

[@thepeacefulenemy4026]

Never interrupt your enemy when they’re making a mistake. If anyone wanted to see the US reduced to a humiliated fail state, they’d have a hard time coming up with a better plan than this.

[@himpim642]

I disagree.Getting rid of trans and lgbt agenda,politics of limited concetrrated intervnetionsim and deal with russia are more favorable for them than current status quo. ALso trump and his qasicrhistina rhetorics have populairity in ascending rightwing forces aroudn the Europe.and heck even opponets see him as normal unlike hair sniffing senile biden. In fact i can see we got rid of godless sex crazed degenrates from demcoract party and we now have more peace in world and bettere life as used line both in usa and out of it.

[@mohamdmlg9027]

While i almost agree with you the one thing that scares me about US civil war 2.0 is that they have nukes And when the empire falles it will want to take out the rest of the world with it

[@diegoarmando5489]

Do one about Stephen Harper and the IDU (International "Democracy" Union).

[@powlimer]

kamala is existing

[@a-fvs3269]

No audio 😢

[@dl-zf9dj]

[@Not_Ava-Nican]

The Nyerere quote is so ironic cus Tanzania is a de facto one party state but allows multiple parties now😭😭

[@grahamjones5400]

Its more like Project 1776.

[@LawrenceOchieng-vq2nl]

Hey I'm new here and who's the guy that claimed to have Christian wife from Zimbabwe and does anyone have link to his video on xtian nationalism

[@franjkav]

It might be on his channel called Second Thought

[@Whatsjonosaying]

Yup it's the guy from second thought. He's white american. Welcome to the channel!

[@Airbag15]

Trumps little brown book

[@mastercheif878]

McCarthyism 2.0... yeah I'm moving back to China, seeya and best of luck comrades

[@charlieshaw1500]

Dacian's having Roman names is not too unsual.

[@techloidtech2051]

What, they plan on continuing the culture war!? Who'da thunk it.

[@jaqz]

last

[@redrandy7441]

Why do you guys like the regulators so much? The ruling class has domination over them, favouring big business over small

[@Mousy_Nano]

6:10 🤣

[@hoboroadie4623]

Save the Smelt. If the anadromous fish quit swimming up to meet the bears, then all of the Potassium washes out to sea. Too bad, so sad.

[@geoffreymartin6363]

My only critique of the anti blue know matter who arguments is that you're entirely right, it doesn't change shit, but at least the enemy isn't outright outspokenly fascist. At least a couple of government people are people-focused, rather than none. Like yeah, revolution or bust, but till then why not make your enemy weaker, even if only in morale? I'll disclaimer that I'm a Kiwi, so I don't have a vote. But I know every time our conservatives get in, our governance follows your right-wing rhetoric. I would prefer that not accelerate. All that being said I sure couldn't vote for anyone not pro Palestine after what we've seen. Y'all 'murricans need to push that rock and get out of that hard place, I know I couldn't handle being stuck where you are.

[@geoffreymartin6363]

My point is that you have one party, one that lets you fuck with them a little bit every four years. Might as well try. But yeah that should be less than 0.01% of anyone's praxis

[@geoffreymartin6363]

Tell ya what I just watched JTs latest video on the subject and yeah I'm doubling down and emphasising every bit of what I said but especially the "it doesn't do any real shit" and the "this ain't praxis" lol

[@franjkav]

I agree. Hakim’s take was super nihilistic and mostly useless to hear

[@geoffreymartin6363]

As a side note, I just found this which I think is very relevant. "USA please listen to me: the price of “teaching them a lesson” is too high. take it from New Zealand, who voted our Labour government out in the last election because they weren’t doing exactly what we wanted and got facism instead. Trans rights are being attacked, public transport has been defunded, tax cuts issued for the wealthy, they’ve mass-defunded public services, cut and attacked the disability funding model, cut benefits, diverted transport funding to roads, cut all recent public transport subsidies, cancelled massive important infrastructure projects like damns and ferries (we are three ISLANDS), fast tracked mining, oil, and other massive environmentally detrimental projects and gave the power the to approve these projects singularly to three ministers who have been wined and dined by lobbyists of the companies that have put the bids in to approve them while one of the main minister infers he will not prioritise the protection of endangered species like the archeys frog over mining projects that do massive environmental harm. They have attacked indigenous rights in an attempt to negate the Treaty of Waitangi by “redefining it”; as a backup, they are also trying to remove all mentions of the treaty from legislation starting with our Child Protection laws no longer requiring social workers to consider the importance of Maori children’s culture when placing those children; when the Waitangi Tribunal who oversees indigenous matters sought to enquire about this, the Minister for Children blocked their enquiry in a breach of comity that was condemned in a ruling - too late to do anything - by our Supreme Court. They have repealed labour protections around pay and 90 day trials, reversed our smoking ban, cancelled our EV subsidy, cancelled our water infrastructure scheme that would have given Maori iwi a say in water asset management, cancelled our biggest city’s fuel tax, made our treasury and inland revenue departments less accountable, dispensed of our Productivity Commission, begun work on charter schools and military boot camps in an obvious push towards privatisation, cancelled grants for first home buyers, reduced access to emergency housing, allowed no cause evictions, cancelled our Maori health system that would have given Maori control over their own public medical care and funding, cut funding of services like budgeting advice and food banks, cancelled the consumer advocacy council, cancelled our medicine regulations, repealed free prescriptions, deferred multiple hospital builds, failed to deliver on pre-election medical promises, reversed a gun ban created in response to the mosque shootings, brought back three strikes = life sentence policy, increased minimum wage by half the recommended amount, cancelled fair pay for disabled workers, reduced wheelchair services, reversed our oil and gas exploration ban, cancelled our climate emergency fund, cut science research funding including climate research, removed limits on killing sea lions, cut funding for the climate change commission, weakened our methane targets, cancelled Significant National Areas protections, have begun reversing our ban on live exports. Much of this was passed under urgency. It’s been six months."

[@blublubblubblu]

Pls cover the new American communist party and maybe invite eddie or carlos from the midwestern Marx institute.

[@DinoCism]

Please don't. PatSocs are an op.

[@blublubblubblu]

@@DinoCism I don’t speak discord and twitter language, can you please elaborate in a full sentence?

[@blublubblubblu]

I really don’t get what you want to say.

[@thepeacefulenemy4026]

Bunch of losers. No one cares.

[@himpim642]

@@blublubblubblu he probably think on midwestern marx youtuber who is supposedly patritic socialist-ie nationalis conservative american socialist whcih is not paroved by some socialist and libs in usa and out.

[@franjkav]

Hakim’s rambling was overly reductive and extremely nihilistic. I don’t watch y’all because I want to hear another hot take - y’all are smart and informed enough to introduce nuance into your conversations.

[@DopDipDop]

I wanted some nuance in my podcasts, you need to mention vote blue no matter who at least once otherwise you're just being silly

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

people have God sovereignty before and over human choice / free will

[@liamblack1558]

First

[@djangofett4879]

Yeah, this is why i stopped listening to Matt Christman years ago. he doesnt get it. he is too cool to admit he was wrong about Republicans already being fascist. i got tired of him telling me how stupid i was for just observing the obvious.

[@smokedbeefandcheese4144]

that's a very good point

[@pixie7349]

Was this recorded ahead of time? Biden stepped down. (Because forced to basically) and Harris is just as bad in many ways as she is a prosecutor. 🫠 But being from Ohio I personally despise JD Vance and his “humble” background bullshit. He also says the US is ran by “childless cat ladies”. I fucking wish. I’m sure President Boots would be amazing in comparison. Though I hear he has some plans to deregulate the tunas. 😅

[@kyliemaggots9757]

yeah according to the comments they’re recorded 1 week in advance

[@raulgarcia8627]

Hakim lecturing about how the best is not to have any nicotine while simultaneously holding the position that "meat in moderation good because traditions" 😐 Cognitive dissonance much? 🥸

[@rodrigoroa6753]

Are you actually gonna argue about food regiments now?

[@raulgarcia8627]

@@rodrigoroa6753 yeah, were they actually arguing about nicotine patches just now? 🤔🤨

[@ZagrebBundist]

My guy, he's a doctor. You're just some random man on the internet.

[@raulgarcia8627]

@@ZagrebBundist what does that have to do with anything? (Assuming that you could somehow be right, since you are just a random internet guy 🤨)

[@ZagrebBundist]

@raulgarcia8627 I'm saying that smoking is, on all accounts, worse for you than eating meat. If eating meat was as bad as smoking, then I think Hakim would say that.