The Detail That Makes This DAVE GROHL FILL Legendary!

[@skeeter197140]

Beato said the drums were recorded WITHOUT cymbals and hats, and then had them overdubbed after. That, to me is crazy. But if anyone could do it, it's Dave Grohl. Songs for the Deaf is a great album, and I still love No One Knows. Awesome video!

[@JJ-vg9du]

Always, Josh likes to challenge his drummers to be creative, they get practise pads instead of cymbals, than when drums are done, the rest.

[@ZachIsARuhtard]

Eric Valentine had a video on his channel that he was forced to take off (probably by QotSA themselves) where he broke down the multitracks of the song. Someone reuploaded it a few months ago if you can find it! Super cool watch if you’re into Beato type stuff

[@arrrrrran3043]

The song easy target by blink 182 has each part of the drum kit recorded individually with different effects put on each track

[@nbctheoffice]

I believe Alkaline Trio also recorded one of their albums this way.

[@addi0922]

its not any more difficult to do that, it’s actually simpler

[@vgaportauthority9932]

If you wanna go crazy with the herta, invert it. Doing that gives you the ability to accent the 1 and then do the triple after. This is great for nailing a cymbal on each beat and getting the triple inbetween. Sounds great in fills. It lets the cymbal and kick hit hard, and then the tappatatapp adds that spice on the snare and toms. It's also cool if you do kick and cymbal, tappataptap, then snare and cymbal tappataptap and go back and forth. Gives a really powerful halftime feel. Herta is an awesome trick. It has all the mindflipping properties of a triplet fill in 4/4, but it sounds way more impressive.

[@flowerlandofjohn]

Or accent a cymbal like this ✌🏻🤩 kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5PQan6pp5iYhrc

[@squishy312]

Grohl is up there when it comes to amazing drummers of all times. His fills are legendary. One of my favorite drummers just behind Danny Carey.

[@righteousfist175]

Danny is god

[@BobSacamano666]

How can you put him and Danny in the same paragraph?

[@malachilightfoot7687]

yeah also joey jordison

[@Tipticklerrr]

@@BobSacamano666 why not

[@user-oy7gz5bf2h]

@@BobSacamano666 John Bonham and Neil Peart have little in common. Yet one can hold both at high estime at the same time.

[@teresathomley3703]

Very well done there, Mike. "No One Knows" always made me think of "Detroit Rock City" as well. Queens are probably the best straight rock band of the past 25 years imo. That drum fill was instantly addictive when I first heard it. Good job replicating it. 👍👏🤘

[@jimreed2138]

🤘🤘🤘

[@banananananananananananananas]

On the topic of Bleed it was actually one of the guitarists Frederik Thordendal who came up with the various patterns in that song. Originally it was for a practice routine but then he presented it to the rest of the band as a potential song. They had doubts if it was actually doable on kick drums for a while and it ended up taking their drummer Thomas Haake around half a year to learn how to properly play it all the way through. It almost didn't make it onto the album and now it's their most famous song, love that band for how they're always pushing limits.

[@SlowerRiot]

Haake is such a monster, one of the GOATs. Counts Songs for the Deaf as one of his all time favourite drum performances also.

[@IanZWhite00]

That it took someone who already plays with such speed and precision _half a year_ for that lick is honestly really encouraging, and a little humbling. The best aren’t just the best cause they’re the best (lol), they have the humility and wisdom to recognize that things take time. It’s very easy for me to want to give up the second I stop seeing immediate gains, and I imagine that’s one of the bigger differentiators between someone like myself and the pros

[@chadzwieg9855]

Brings me back to Maiden. The beginning of Where eagles dare. But what do I know I'm a guitarist!

[@RogierRJDonker]

Exactly! I was thinking of that song also

[@HannahCope88]

🤘🏻🔥 was only thinking about this song yesterday

[@douglasmijangos3327]

Every time I hear that song or think of that song it reminds me of “A Day in the Life” by the Beatles .. how they both have this epic build up and then it stops and 1 instrument continues playing by itself.. the Piano 🎹 on “A Day in the Life” and the Bass 🎸 on “No One Knows” 😂

[@topher4677]

Funnily enough, they asked the orchestra specifically for the "A Day in the Life" thing but tried to be sneaky about it by describing but not referring to the song by name, but someone in the orchestra responded by saying "Oh, you mean the A Day in the Life thing? We get asked to do that all the time."

[@douglasmijangos3327]

@@topher4677 😂 that’s hilarious it’s like “tell me you want to rip them off without telling me you want to rip them off” I love the song though.. I’ve seen QOTSA live .. actually wit the Foo Fighters 😂 both amazing live

[@BareBandSubscription]

@kevvcop Objectively, factually false. They actually pioneered or helped pioneer quite a bit of things, from popular musical composition and musical genres (including electronic music and even heavy metal), to production techniques including looping and sampling. They really were ridiculously important.

[@CorbCorbin]

Song for the Dead, is my favorite intro on that album, but he’s amazing throughout the entire thing.

[@markusszelbracikowski956]

The drumming on this track is just beautiful. You should do a whole song for this one, it has a lot of incredible fills

[@sap7881]

If you want a real fill that's not easy like the Dave Grohl one.. nicko mcbrain (Iron maiden) where Eagles Dare

[@flowerlandofjohn]

Next step is to accent a cymbal for a great “fusion-lick” ✌🏻🤩 kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5PQan6pp5iYhrc

[@XtremeKillah101]

MIKEEEE PLEASE DO A ART OF GUITAR VIDEO FOR JOSH HOMME!!

[@bryandraughn9830]

Great stuff man! There's a Satriani tune called "if" and the drums are just amazing all the way through. I'm probably the only guitar player who listens to a Satch tune for the drums! It's fascinating watching someone who is well versed in both instruments. You should check it out. It's slathered in nuance.

[@TransDrummer1312]

I’ve snagged so many ideas from Satriani’s percussion sections lol. They’re a goldmine of fills.

[@ericvinson4628]

Jonathan Mover is a beast of a drummer - love all his work w/ Satriani!

[@cojones-72]

The drummer of "If" and most of the tunes on that Satriani album is Manu Katche (also mentioned in a comment above). Brilliant French drummer who played for Peter Gabriel and Sting.

[@babylonfell]

You have to check out the Killing Joke record Dave Grohl played drums on. It’s a killer!

[@jimreed2138]

Grohl side project Probot he drums on the entire album with different lead singers. Lemmy and Jack Black to name a few.

[@aperezto]

​@@jimreed2138with juliette and the licks he made a great job as well

[@bernieconatser1028]

I love how you can hear elements of different songs when you are working on basic building blocks. Impressive encyclopedic associations.

[@RileysDadRocks1]

This is a very hard rudiment to perfect. I am still working on it. Doing it like this song calls for is tough....going back and forth from snare to toms and back to snare and a the speed it's played at. Very advanced

[@coasternut3091]

I always loved Queens of the Stone Age, I didn't know it was Dave Grohl until many years later

[@jimreed2138]

Grohl drummed on 2 of their albums.

[@jamesnunn7181]

You should look up ‘Desert Sessions’; Josh Homme basically kept a fluid group of musicians constantly coming around, some made it on record multiple times, some didn’t make it at all, really interesting period in music generally tbf RIP KYUSS

[@geraldhartley]

It's so cool that you're an excellent drummer - as well as an excellent guitarist. You're like Brian Tichy!!

[@danielfurmage4381]

Saw Dave play this live with Queens of the Stone Age at Glastonbury 02', was just so good!

[@neon_one]

Manu Ketuche from Peter Gabriel has some cool fills and tom work. I get chills from what he does in 'In your eyes' and 'san jancito' from secret world live, and 'Lay your hands on me' in Live from athens

[@TonyHawkTuah]

Manu Katché

[@Hevvvyyy]

QOTSA mann, what a great band with a ton of killer songs

[@sydneyhalliwell2513]

Great video. I always referred to Grohl as the lord of the 4 piece kit. Such a creative drummer

[@nealskydive]

Tomas Haake from Meshuggah spent the guts of 7 or 8 months working on the Bleed hertas before going to the band. It's incredible. Great vid

[@jimreed2138]

Grohl is what got me into Queens Of The Stone Age. Since than they are my favorite band! Very underrated but those who know definitely know 🤘🤘🤘

[@ghettostreamlabs5724]

I think everyone not named Dave Grohl plays it a little wrong LOL

[@joethedrumma]

First time I heard a Herta (or really noticed it) was on A7X' Nightmare, just at the end of the chorus leading in to the verse. I was so determined to learn that and to this day it's still one of my favorite fills. I do them all the time with my hands on the table, knees, or what ever I can drum on 😂

[@Tyrannosaurine]

The grunge era tends to get overlooked as far as musicianship is concerned but there was a bunch of good drummers. Heck, if Dave Grohl is like, the 3rd or 4th best drummer in rock music, you know there’s some talent around. Jimmy Chamberlain (the Smashing Pumpkins) was an absolutely amazing drummer and Matt Cameron is so underrated it’s criminal. Dude played in the oddest time signatures while making it sound totally smooth and Normal.

[@sydhamelin1265]

Ha! I had this all wrong. I thought it was swiss triplets, but the feel always was off when I played it. It's just that he's playing so fast it almost sounds like a flam, but no, definitely a 16th note. I could tell the second you played it where I was getting it wrong.

[@mini_moose_x]

Interesting, definitely going to throw this into my rhythm riffs, big fan of that groove. Loving the drum vids btw! 🤘

[@Peron1-MC]

megadeth - "she wolf" has a herta guitar riff chug :) also underrated megadeth song. its great and fun to play :)

[@chadhiggins9944]

I love that herta/Kashmir connection. Cool thought! Carter Beauford is the king of the herta IMHO.

[@lee5150]

The first thing I heard was 'Violence' by Blink. Travis uses a herta in he drum intro. 👍

[@danstephensen9032]

Grohl is the Master!

[@dontplayformenero]

Great video... An interesting fill is in Nirvana's 'Aneurysm'... At the start when the tom build up is about to finish Dave Grohl does a killer fill into the Heavy part. On first listen it's sort of similar to the fill at the start of 'Enough Space' by Foo Fighters but actually not really in practice. Check it out

[@lewismaclean8849]

Also, can you please do a breakdown of the song Art of Dying by Gojira. I really want to learn how to play this song, and I trust you the most to explain how to play this complicated song. Thanks Mike.

[@TwoandaHater]

The herta just makes those 4 hits sound more musical (to me).

[@nicholasgeorge4156]

I saw Dave grohl in foo fighters back in 2018. It was my last concert before COVID started. And possibly in ghost when they opened for Iron Maiden but it’s not confirmed If Dave was performing then.

[@JaMeshuggah]

Please keep making QOTSA content and I'll watch it

[@jravell]

2:23 That’s really interesting, because I remember hearing that this was a Lamborghini exhaust. I think it was even Alex who told the story , and I think it was Eddie’s car. But you’re right, those are hertas.

[@lewismaclean8849]

Very nice breakdown of a simple rudiment that can be used anywhere. Also thanks for mentioning Bleed, I didn’t think that you would know about that song, then again I think that was due to me being ignorant.

[@LarsonPercussion]

I would suggest NOT counting the hertas like 1 e + a, it can get confused with 16th notes.

[@LarsonPercussion]

Something like 1 + trip let might be more beneficial

[@ericchristianson4955]

he uses the same fill in tenacious d beelzebub

[@hector_nimrod]

Use Dave as an example and place the mic behind you on your left. Like he did in Nirvana, and also Taylor did in the Foo Fighters. When you Need to play just move away ans when you need to talk, move It back

[@turdferguson9190]

Never noticed the similarity to Detroit Rock City before.

[@Benjamin-om3ih]

Great video. You are always such an incredible comunicator

[@doofs]

i discovered the herta as a kid by pure accident, i played by ear and listened to a lot of green day now i can't play without spamming hertas left and right lol

[@nxtlvh]

I was in the sixth grade parents took me to a kiss concert 1979. an informative in these videos Kick-Ass

[@anorexorc1st]

It’s a Herta! Very simple rudiment. But very effective when properly placed, and done right. Yes. All cymbals were overdubbed. No cymbals or hats were used in basic tracking. Dave used electronic drum pads as space fillers. Then dubbed them all in.

[@eduh7950]

How to spot a drummer with classical percussion training from a group of drummers with no classical training? Check the way they hold their sticks :D Percussionists hold their sticks with their palms basically parallel to the snare (maybe a 5-10º angle) much like you see conga players or a basketballer would play, while drummers will have their palms perpendicular to the snare and hi-hat, much like a "karate chop" massage motion. Try it out and let me know which one you think gives you more control (responses will vary). From a muscle, tendon and energy efficiency perspective, I feel like the way most drummers grab their sticks (like the guy in the video) is inefficient since the wrist's range of motion from the highest point to the lowest is of about 90º, whereas the classical way (like the way you dribble a basketball) allows close to 160-180º. Sure you get use to it either way, sure you can do amazing things either way (drummers are amazing, after all!!!), but you're asking your wrists to get used to a motion that is limiting movement to some extent.

[@dunesbra]

Speaking of Alex Van Halen, he uses a herta in a fill in the song One Foot Out The Door from Fair Warning that has been one of my favorite films for basically my whole life. I remember practicing it for hours and hours when I was like 12 and couldn't figure it out. Then I took it to my drum teacher and he was like "oh that's easy, it's just a fast herta." Duh! Lol

[@_mnejing]

Pedantry I suppose, but Meshuggah has a bit of a weird writing process. They don't really work on songs as a band. They're all quite versatile with ProTools, and have the benefit of Tomas Haake's kit being the design for Drumkit from Hell. Essentially, someone will write the entire song, including bass, guitar, and drum parts, and bring it in. They'll refine where they need to, but generally the song is presented in mostly finished form, and the job is to figure out how to play it on real instruments. That out of the way, Bleed was written by one of the guitar players, including the drum part. Haake has famously said he had to entirely re-learn how to play drums for the Bleed part. The fact that SO many people talk about that song in particular, and almost entirely because of the bass drum herta-spam, shows you how cool this rudiment really is. They've done a couple of making of DVDs, it's an interesting process.

[@MarcoPolux]

it´s just a basic fill (as you explained at the begining of the video) but only adding a flam at each first hit.... my very weird internal language, but effective, for this would be "tra-ka-ta : tru-ku-tu" 🥁🤪

[@GaryHubbs]

If you had just said No One Knows or QOTSA it wouldn’t have taken me 24hrs to get her lol! That song blew me away too, got that album and saw the tour (but without Dave Grohl)

[@recordman555]

Same riff, different syncopation - that little drum "solo" in Edgar Winter's "Frankenstein".

[@SlitherWhisp]

Every time I hear Chinatown by Thin Lizzy I am reminded of No One Knows, based on the drum fill. But, I am not a musician, so likely wrong. 😊

[@bronzemv4440]

Immigrant song and gimme some love by Spencer Davis group have similarities. Both great songs. You should cover that.

[@truuuupR]

Recently started playing drums and I can't get my head around hertas. Like playing lots of them quickly back to back I really struggle.

[@NikkLiberos]

Wait, isn't the first note of each grouping a flam? I'm asking because that's what it sounded like to me and Dave Grohl has gone on the record saying that he LOVES it. And with Bleed, Tomas has plenty of interviews where he discusses how the song almost didn't make it onto the record because he had to learn how to match the guitars, so it was the guitars first.

[@applelandry4233]

I'm pretty sure Dave was just aiming for the sticks-only version of Iron Maiden’s Where Eagles Dare fills

[@hyvll]

The rendition of Detroit Rock city (around 4.30)ressemble where eagles dare. From iron maiden.

[@Man-dl9ml]

Its very similar to Where Eagles Dare by Iron Maiden. Just doesnt have the ending. Amazing fill. Blew me away when I first heard it

[@braydenmackie2204]

To answer your last comment about whether the guitarist or the drummer came up with bleed first, it was the drummer. He was doing a solo at a gig and stumbled on the herta thing. Anyway, Grohl is an absolute fucking animal and everyone knows it

[@deadbeats4894]

Dave Grohl is better behind a kit than the frontman. Queens knows how to pick drummers replacing him with Jon Theodore.

[@Calzonelly]

So glad I came across this, Ive been trying to play that part for a while just like how you did and I too noticed it just didn’t sound right.

[@joeespinosa2030]

When I started karate out of high school I would do a lot of paradiddle combinations when I would punch. Yup you can throw rudiments into a lot of things.

[@harrysalsbury2161]

Correct me if I’m wrong but I’ve been playing it as a flam all this time and I can’t hear the difference. Dave loves flams and I thought it was being played as flammed triplet

[@jeffjefferson8137]

i couldn’t figure out why it didn’t sound the same when i did it. i didn’t know he was playing it as a triplet so mine would come off beat every other time. makes sense now though.

[@bojackharkness1971]

I've had this conversation with many drummers.Most of the youtubers cover this wrong so trying to convince drummers that its a herta can at times be difficult.

[@AllofJudea]

QOTSA is such a great band, it's a shame that No One Knows is the only song people know.

[@dngrouscrgo]

I was today years old when I found out that the intro to hot for teacher = bleed 🤯

[@Albeit_Jordan]

I've always just played it as a flam triplet, you get the same effect. I've never heard of a herta.

[@quicklicks5963]

It's a herta. I first noticed those from Carter bauford in dmb

[@johnnytmcq]

I don't know, to me it sounds more like the way you thought it was, just removing the spaces between drums so it's just one smooth action.

[@Hammer1978]

Love me like you used to do is the Best QOTSA Song since that drummer is so much better than Dave

[@flame074]

These are the types of things only drummers will here when your playing a song live so the a and b don’t matter too much as your probably the only one who will notice it lol

[@datsuzei1669]

I find a good way to think about it is by playing 8th note triplets as RRL and then adding the extra left hand in to make it a herta.

[@WilliamEdwardJacob]

If anyone wants to know other great hertas, go check out Carter Beauford from Dave Matthews Band.

[@KendoSwordsman]

What the absolute hell?! 😂I'm so jealous of your uprights in the background. Particularly the MK1 upright.

[@nxtlvh]

Hey the Peter Chris video got my attention I appreciated the way you took up for him or whatever you know. Highlighted this technique. I just wondering if you could do something like that for Metallica's drummer Lars people are saying he sucks suck that's what people say. Thanks for the content

[@duckydrummer6331]

I can’t remember which songs but I’m pretty sure Neal Peart used Hertas too.

[@retronemesis7064]

Bass line in that song is sick

[@mposh]

The 3:47 section sounds similar to Frankenstein by Edgar Winter.

[@billmint8122]

Single stroke fours are different than hertas. Saved you six minutes.

[@craigmchugh9978]

bleed is a bit boring to listen to, but after even attempting to try and play it on guitar, it's a hard rhythm to keep going for so long

[@frolo9426]

No offence, but who has to "find out" it's Dave Grohl on drums?! 😆

[@Turak_64]

All I can hear is "Where Eagles Dare" by Iron Maiden with this rhythm

[@chadkent1241]

When I was a touring drummer with Atomship, I always put the mic stand behind me and to the left. It seemed to be the most out of the way plus I could swing it back and fourth as needed.

[@PNW_Sportbike_Life]

Herta baby; such a boss rudiment! One of my favorite uses is Neil Peart on “Passage to Bangkok.”

[@Danumurti18]

Yess, I was also confused with that fill. It's not triplet nor straight 16/4. Thanks to figure it out!

[@muchomusiclibre]

an arcade with a kiss poster and a drum set would have been my ideal place to live as a kid lol. or now too.

[@fabjtown1]

Cobham 4 stroke. Carter Beaufords entire career was built on it.

[@Glostahdude]

WHERE EAGLES DARE - Iron Maiden and Nikko McBain

[@opiedrums6969]

The guitar player from messugha came up with the part first. Thomas actually states that riff is what made him develope his playing to what it is today.

[@bigjared8946]

He's such a great drummer but he can't sing. Dave Mustaine comes to mind

[@roz7.62]

It’s a Swiss army triplet. The 16ths are actually flams.

[@BlssdNFvrd77]

I thought he was using one of the Flam rudiments when I first heard it.

[@user-oy7gz5bf2h]

Songs for the deaf is a masterpiece that really influenced me.

[@tezzerii]

I've played this with two bands. I remember thinking, how the heck am I going to play this? Tried different ways, in the meantime realised it was a herta - I can't quite manage that 8 times in a row ! I went with the 4 fast strokes, slightly lagged so they flowed together, and I've had some solid praise and jaw-drops for being able to do that fill ! Ok, I'm cheating. But I'm working on it. =o)

[@ehdforlife]

I love that fill too! Great job!