THE Disturbing Movie Iceberg Explained (Part 2)

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[@pokadotdaisy2]

I’m far too chicken to actively engage with any of the mid to bottom tier movies on this list; and yet, I find them endlessly intriguing. Watching your video is my safe space to explore without truly doing permanent damage to my psyche. Thank you for your service.

[@workchannel8053]

Same!

[@peachkitt]

same!! every1 say thank u may

[@alipie02]

This exactly!

[@ajlikins]

Yup same, The worst of these that I've actually seen was Salo and that was Bad Enough that I know I won't have to watch the rest of them. I do still enjoy listening to a funny and cute lady tell me about them tho!

[@atmosphericentry0]

Same here. I've seen every movie in the 3rd tier list (minus Shoujo Tsubaki) and even some of those scarred me. I'm not a big fan of "exploitative" movies that lack substance or meaning and are only there for the shock value, so the only ones I liked are Martyrs, Tetsuo the Iron Man and some parts of The House That Jack Built (minus all the egotistical self-aware god complex moments that Von Trier heavily injected into this movie).

[@mabonrambler]

"Real-world violence often looks like fake violence." As someone with PTSD I relate to that

[@averynelson1186]

As someone who has watched a lot of real videos of people dying or being maimed, I also relate to that. (Sorry about the PTSD)

[@DisDatK9]

I think honestly it’s just that we grew up watching so much fake violence that when it happened in reality we automatically relate them to each other. (Deployed a few times, saw a lot of death, also felt like it looked fake)

[@mabonrambler]

Thanks, both. Yeah, it sounded more fake to me since I was on the receiving end but the blood also looked fake and somewhat "unconvincing" might've been my brain trying to "mundanize" the violence.

[@mabonrambler]

@@DisDatK9 Thank you for your service, hope you're settling down well. But yeah that makes a lot of sense, fake violence is most people's more common way of seeing violence so most would be more acclimated to that

[@awkwardandrew3031]

Same here. It’s the dissociation that’s causing it to look/feel fake

[@jmyetman1999]

I feel like the amount of misogyny in these movies, especially lower on the iceberg, is really telling honestly

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

It’s almost like there’s a significant overlap between a demographic of people that are willing to sensationalize atrocities for the sake of entertainment and a demographic of people that don’t respect the rights of certain human beings.

[@jmyetman1999]

also its weird that like bdsm as a form of control and torture instead of a consensual safe act is a reoccurring theme in these

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

@@jmyetman1999 Right? I’m willing to bet that it’s because the people making those particular films either don’t actually know anything about BDSM as a community or practice, or do, and have a VEEEEEEEEEERY dangerous outlook on it.

[@luisacesar4185]

A lot of these "movies" are just gore compilatons, like Ogrish .

[@PhoenixFireKMS]

My thoughts exactly

[@loganplonski922]

"Why would you stan a real person?" May that's a hard-hitting question that many people need to ask themselves

[@phinnysfruitstand7930]

*looks at all the kpop stans* ..yeah.

[@irenic_raccoon]

*looks at myself in the mirror as apart of "danonation"* "... Why are you like this"

[@RaevensInk]

May: "So this is a vomit comedy." My dumb idiot brain: "A Vomedy :)"

[@ChicaneryBear]

Me: a comet vomity

[@jabba1984]

A VomCom if you will. (I absolutely will not).

[@fabio-vb7xu]

a commit

[@ConvincingPeople]

Hard-hitting question: Was the Mr. Creosote sketch in Monty Python's The Meaning of Life the first modern vomcom?

[@therealCrazyJake]

I thought the exact same thing!! 😂

[@brookeholly9888]

What really disappoints me is how cool some of the names of the movies are? Like seriously “august underground” sounds like it’d be the name of some deep psychological thriller.

[@Frosting1000]

Yeah! Or at the very least, a cool band name

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

One could make the argument that it already is the name of a deep psychological thriller.

[@cbennett7480]

or August Rush's (the 2000's August Rush, musically centric modern fairytale a la Oliver Twist) angsty years!!

[@Snowstriken]

Taking inspiration for this hell yeah

[@lilyav]

tell me about it, when I first saw the iceberg most of the names made sense, like you can guess what a film called Guinea Pig is going to be about, but I really thought Ostermontag would be some religious horror and it being so low on the list I wondered why, needless to say I was in for a shock

[@Gus-lb6to]

this reminds me of like listening to the girl in the bunk over at summer camp recite true crime cases before we fell asleep because she had a nice voice and a lot of memory space taken up by horrendous cases. truly soothing.

[@FreakoftheAngels]

Aw :)

[@nairsheasterling9457]

Ew. Nothing worse then true crime-heads.

[@JAEVideogroup]

"Don't let your dad catch you with eel porn, bro" is absolutely iconic

[@TheQuietTyper]

I'm scared that my dad would catch me listening to someone talking about eel porn. I put my headphones on when I realized that any part of this video heard out of context sounds very bad and worrying.

[@punchincorporated]

god bless you for posting this immediately after i sat down with my grilled cheeses

[@alipie02]

Wish I had a grilled cheese right now

[@free_siobhan]

living the good life

[@emilybroderick2421]

Omg dude same

[@TheSpyder49]

hm, it seems like a lot of these people just dont really like women a lot

[@atmosphericentry0]

Right? I feel like a lot of the directors on these lower tiers are just creating their own fantasies in the name of "art". It's pretty fucked up.

[@ericisdead95]

I mean they all agreed to it and in some cases the girls are good friends of the directors and are just as effed up as they are, can only speak for some though.

[@Riley_HawkinsOSRS]

Because a fake movie is a reflection of what the director believes. Yup 100% fiction is real life

[@TheSpyder49]

do you think movies arent direct reflections of the directors beliefs? thats literally how art works.

[@Riley_HawkinsOSRS]

@@TheSpyder49 so, do you think Fred vogal the director of August Underground really kills and tortures people in his basement?

[@SarahChan15]

It’s so nice to have a woman tackle this stuff, I’ve been watching a lot of these iceberg videos and most of them seem to be made by men. Which is fine, but as a former weird little girl I feel like women have a special relationship with horror. Or maybe that’s just me lol idk Excellent video May! It always brightens my day when I see you’ve uploaded a new video!

[@Ellie-jr4zy]

NO FR horror belongs to former weird little girls

[@1200-j2q]

Yeah, especially bc majority of the movies on the list are a lot of gore fantasies against women 😢

[@JuliaTheSun]

i feel like men talking about horror will just NOT mention the weird sex / sexual assault / straight up rape in movies, and May does talk about it!!! and she talks about the parts that are bad. which thank god! also, related, im really excited to watch audition later this week!

[@devinallen4708]

Your user name is legendary

[@SpookyLipsAndFatHips]

Agreed 100%

[@GreggNowhere]

The Bunny Game is fascinating because one of the writers was the woman who played the Bunny. Plenty of the creators of these movies put themselves in them, but rarely as the victim.

[@crimsonlocks3904]

Yeah and wasn't like one of the big points of the movie that the woman wrote and played the main role as a means of coping with her past trauma because a lot of it literally happened to her? I remember hearing that at least But yeah it's super telling that so many of these are artist self-insert as the aggressors much more often than it is about traumatized people trying to come to terms with their own trauma

[@danielconnor8516]

@@crimsonlocks3904 wait, I dont mean to cope shame or anything, but isnt it going to be EXTREMELY triggering to literally act your trauma (especially that kind)? I watched the bunny game and she is bounded and blindfolded which probably feels unsafe. I hope she is ok tho because holy shit.

[@crimsonlocks3904]

@@danielconnor8516 i mean i aint her therapist so i cant say if it's good for her or not, but it is a common thing for trauma survivors to reenact their trauma in a controlled setting. The thinking is that it gives the victim more of a sense of control of the situation even though they are technically the victim

[@bareakon]

@@danielconnor8516 She seems to have nothing but positive things to say about the film shoot so I guess she's okay. Which, given she got legit branded with hot iron, is saying a lot.

[@nairsheasterling9457]

​@@danielconnor8516it can be, but exposure therapy is a thing, where you intentionally trigger your ptsd in a safe setting to help come to terms with trauma. This is extreme, sure, but if it works, it works.

[@miles2757]

Adding some movies between tier 3 and tier 4 would for sure be a good move, because I really don't understand how we're going from just, like, the House that Jack Built straight to Slaughtered Vomit Dolls lol

[@Aster_Risk]

This is why I don't like some of these icebergs. The placing doesn't always make sense. I think a lot of these are made by people who aren't that into the topic.

[@GypsyxDarling]

@@Aster_Risk maybe, but the placement is usually based more on obscurity than a strict ranking of whatever the iceberg is about, so you usually get a kind of combination of the two. Of course, what knowledge is viewed as obscure is wicked subjective, so the best ones do require a frankly wild amount of knowledge in order to really put everything in perspective.

[@atmosphericentry0]

@@Aster_Risk I agree. I saw one where someone put Megan is Missing BELOW Salo, Martyrs and A Serbian Film.... like seriously? Megan is fucking Missing?

[@poisonivy27]

I’ve also seen the tiers have themes that aren’t necessarily to be compared to the ones above/below. I believe Wendigoon (I believe that’s his name) covered it vaguely in his video

[@jrosewater]

@@atmosphericentry0 the fact that Megan is Missing would be on this iceberg, or rather any iceberg that isn't "really shitty movies".

[@cosmophire]

2:56 iceberg criticism 3:26 self inserted tier -3:47 takeshi miike films -4:44 antichrist --5:44 gummo --7:21 goodbye uncle tom ---8:38 the devils ---10:14 the killing of america ----10:54 enter the void -----11:47 aftermath genesis ----12:39 men behind the sun ----13:09 begotten ---13:34 come & see ---13:58 signapore sling --14:36 trash humpers --15:24 tideland -16:05 adam chaplain -16:50 nostalgia critic’s the wall 17:10 T4 -17:24 vomit gore trilogy -19:38 life&d34th of a c0rn0 gang --20:17 c0rn 2 snuff pipeline --21:18 august underground trilogy ---23:29 snuff 102 ---24:15 guinea pig series ----25:48 necromantik ----27:28 viva la muerte -----28:10 where the d34d go 2 d13 ----29:26 melancholie der engle ----31:18 juvenile crime ---33:08 philosophy of the knife 34:47 overview? 35:17 T5 -36:44 womens flesh my red guts -38:36 ostermontag --39:15 girl hell 1999 --41:08 mai chan’s daily life ---41:56 eccentric psycho cinema --43:11 the gaming of rebecca --44:06 the necro files -45:06 the gateway meat -47:24 (*S.E) the bunny game 48:07 outro *se = self inserted

[@adriennebarrow3105]

you are an angel on earth and i love you. i have been looking for this comment

[@delaneystorm]

Thank yooooou

[@gak0021]

Thank you so much, this dude just waffled for ages I just wanted to see what the worst ones were like

[@meltryllis6239]

Thank you so much! (Gets flashbacks to Mai-chan's daily life (⁠;⁠ŏ⁠﹏⁠ŏ⁠))

[@barakmoss1691]

Thank you

[@kenobi90000]

Cute horror nerd warns you about traumatic movies.

[@805Goodland]

@@ihmiwkms ok

[@campbellmaggs4384]

UwU

[@thesoundofstatic9474]

Omg including Nostalgia Critic's The Wall caught me so off guard 🤣 but I'd say its definitely a tier 5 selection though imo... I'd watch all of Lucifer Valentine's filmography before that again in full honesty.

[@papajhonsreal]

Yeah, it's deep down there for awfulness alone

[@watchthisnow2865]

*gagging as I hear "vomit drinking" more than once* I really have no interest in going down this rabbit hole, but I could listen to May talk about it forever.

[@formerclarity8836]

YEP - 100% these types of videos make me realize that, actually, I'm basic. And I'm totally fine with that, and with hovering in the top few tiers of the iceberg forever.

[@shamefulbeast]

so far, you’re the only person who i’ve seen that gives a trustworthy guide/review to videos like this. you just clearly respect and care about your audience’s safety, and understand that while morbid curiosity is a thing, these movies are called disturbing and fucked up for a reason. i appreciate the way you go about these films, it’s just comforting. it’s like i’m talking to a friend about their current internet obsession lol

[@scragglymagpie]

I've watched Wendigoon's video on the topic a while back, and while he did a good job with these, I longed for your take on them. I really enjoy your take on these kinds of movies, so having these THREE iceberg videos now is pure salvation in these trying times! Honestly, you are magnificent and so are your cat ears.

[@unclefelix3412]

I generally think that people should be allowed to make whatever fucked up shit they want to, BUT I think if any movies really *shouln't* exist, it's any movie about Junko Furuta. Her family is still alive. Her friends at school are still alive. The people who tortured and killed her are still alive and well. They shouldn't have their trauma exposed online for entertainment, only for privacy reasons.

[@susbus1703]

100% this. The idea of making money off of this horrible tragedy is honestly filthy. To me, that is true exploitation, taking these real life incidents and making them into cheap horror to tickle people's abilities of conceptualizing evil shit. There are so many ways to go about that which don't involve capitalizing on real life people that have never had, and never will have, any justice. And it's not even in a way to remember her or celebrate her life whatsoever, it's this super disrespectful depiction of her real suffering with no attempt at acknowledging how her relatives or friends would feel watching it all playing out on a "stage". Who the fuck would make that?

[@nah.4798]

Just read up on this - I’m having immense difficulty understanding why the killers got such small sentences. Sure, they were “juveniles” but 20 maximum years?? How the fuck has this not been answered for yet?

[@alexanders4293]

@@nah.4798 apparently they had connections with the yakuza or some wild shit like that. It’s genuinely fucked up and they should be rotting in fucking prison for what they did to her.

[@marci.curious]

@@nah.4798 I promise you, Karma is coming for them. I just wish we could be there when she arrives & takes her payment. ✌🏼🤜🤛✌🏼

[@anarkia2862]

One of the boys who tortured her is on Twitter and keeps denying about her torture everytime its mention

[@arrow_of_ravenclaw5155]

We need to stop using Junko’s story for fame. I mean, even the Gacha community has gotten in on this. How about we make films about the seventeen years before she was kidnapped?

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

Or, get this, we just make movies about FAKE tragedies, so we don’t sensationalize and exploit the suffering of a real human being that could not possibly speak on her own behalf. Like, seriously, I’m aware of enough of these movies to know that the human imagination can easily come up with comparable snuff premises on its own. We don’t need to stick our noses into the business of the dead.

[@theunbearablejuan]

Wait, the gacha community? HOW?!

[@arrow_of_ravenclaw5155]

@@theunbearablejuan they recreated her murder on the app to make a joke

[@kostajovanovic3711]

@@arrow_of_ravenclaw5155 aren't they the comedians....

[@butcheromance]

Look, I like a disturbing piece of media as much as the next guy. But I feel like, with a substantial amount of (extreme) horror movies, we might want to start asking ourselves a few questions. Like: Who made this? Do we know anything about their relationship with other people and women in particular? What can we assume about why this movie was made? What's the audience like that enjoys this movie and how do they describe it? I'm not saying everyone whose favourite movie genre is "women being tortured to death in graphic detail" - directed and shot by men - experiences misogynist feelings. Buuuuuuuuuut... There might be something worth reflecting on in there. [edit: typo]

[@amazingrainbowfruit]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@nonlineargoblin]

Lucifer Valentine in particular is allegedly a pretty awful person with a fair amount of allegations of not so great stuff. There's a video by the Internet Investigator that talks about all of that, super interesting watch. If you want my take on the whole thing, I think anyone who makes a career out of making media based around violence towards women seemingly just for the sake of it is a pretty fucked up human being.

[@somekid7]

It makes you think. What would films look like if inequality didn't exist? If capitalism didn't exist?

[@bunnyotaku777]

I genuinely don’t understand why these pieces of media exist and can’t understand how they could be enjoyed without having depraved morals/feelings of sexism, racism, violence towards women and animals that are hidden and expressed/explored with watching these films

[@bunnyotaku777]

That being said the only other reason I imagine people watching them are for curiosity’s sake and intrigue for things that are inhumane and disgusting but to actually watch this kinda thing on the usual and ENJOY IT? There’s definitely 100% something to be concerned about and its insane how its all just… legal and readily available for viewing instead of on some shady site on the deep web

[@xxscribbledragonxx9744]

"real world violence often looks like real violence" im glad im not alone in feeling that - i saw a picture of a guy who had been run over by a tank and had all his brain exploded around his head which looked squashed like a melon, and it just didn't look real? It looked like CGI or like a really good halloween prop. It was surreal

[@celery8059]

I always worry about you when it comes to having to recall potentially traumatizing films like these , but it’s really admirable of you to not only educate but steer people away from these while satiating the curiosity many horror fans have for these obscure pieces of media. What I’m trying to say is please take care of yourself !!

[@sandraschafskaese8471]

„Come And See“ is a film I would genuinely recommend to most adults. It might be a lot in its violence and relentlessness but it has to be this way. Plus, the camera work is stunning.

[@arianathough2070]

YES. Like Stories of Old introduced this film to me in his anti-war films essay, it's absolutely one of the best

[@MrMusicbyMartin]

I thought it was a beautifully made movie, but I can’t bring myself to watch it again - it brings the horror of the nazis in Russia right up in your face.

[@emmakiiskinen7898]

“ feminism….. am I right giiiiiiiiirls ??!!” 😂

[@Szanth]

I'm reminded of a line from the game Cultist Simulator, about a book that has an intense amount of magical energy to it, and which contains a lot of bad imagery: "It is not good to look upon."

[@Szanth]

I was fine all through the first one, and about halfway through this one - due to nothing in particular happening or being said - my body was just like "Hey hearing about all this stuff sure is something huh. Ahhhhh." And I kept going anyway. I really liked the warning you gave, though, about the NSFL stuff and how and why it can actually affect you. Most people don't bother contextualizing it like that.

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

Man, shoutout to Cultist Simulator. That game rules.

[@Szanth]

@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick True. And there's really nothing else like it out there.

[@vxmlives]

i do think "slaughtered vomit dolls" would be a great name for a riot grrl punk band

[@leadvendor]

It does, doesn't it?

[@mariabobia69]

@Larinda Nomikos Joe mama

[@LuigiFuckingRocks89]

@@mariabobia69 another great name for a riot grrl punk band

[@alicia5925]

@Larinda Nomikos peepeepoopoo

[@thatsprettylunchean]

That and " Slow Torture Puke Chamber " sounds like something that should be presented as a song with a really deep guttural voice.

[@GigiAbla]

“We legitimately live in a world where poeple forget that grass grows out of the ground” idk why but that last part made me genuinely happy. Really a mood lifter 💕

[@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm666]

It's movies like these that make me feel uncomfortable living. They remind me of how ruthless we've become and how much the suffering of people is treated as something to consume. I'm not talking about the artistry that SOME of these movies have, but rather, the exploitative aspect. They make me feel like I'm not safe living my truth, because some people might look at me and think of what they'd do to me in order to fulfill their sick and perverse fascist fantasies. Idk, just a thought.

[@andreja9425]

In all honesty we’ve become a lot less ruthlessly and obviously psychopathic as a society than what’s been done throughout history. Like don’t get me wrong there’s still so much bad shit happening all the time nowadays, but in slavery era America, medieval cultures and ancient cultures the most sadistic torture and execution methods were implemented in institutions and many were public spectacles. As depraved and disgusting as these movies are, at least they are not real and are merely simulated violence (except against animals sometimes which is still fucked). Violent crime has actually been on a significant downward trajectory since its peaks in the 80s/90s too so I hope that helps you sleep a little better. Though I am too very paranoid of the ill intentions of people around me, especially as a trans person so I do sympathize with that fear

[@arkhamcycle6660]

@@andreja9425 you summed up my thoughts exactly.

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

An interpretation I’ve heard about challenging or disturbing media is that it gives people and opportunity to explore and contemplate deeply upsetting things without needing to outright experience them.

[@mel6508]

severely off topic, but your skin is just GLOWING

[@bubbletea1985]

looking at Takashi Miike's IMDB is a wild ride, finding out that Audition and the Ace Attorney movie were directed by the same man will change a person. He also made the RGG movie???? And a Jojo movie?????? there are two wolves inside of you. one makes vomit gore horror, one makes funny bideo game movie

[@danielaxc2900]

Takashi Miike seems like he'd be a rad uncle but I'd never let him watch my children unsupervised. Or even supervised.

[@josephwiessner1558]

Miike is like the greatest director of all time. He just makes anything for any genre.

[@dragoneye2874]

He also made the Yakuza movie

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

Takashi Miike movies are like what people who aren’t fans of JoJo think JoJo is like.

[@SkiddlyBink]

takashi miike is a master artist with a wide, wide palette

[@c-puff]

"Takashi Miike will make movies that will make you squirm out of your pants" And he ALSO is the director of the very successful Magical Girl/jpop idol we series Girls X Heroine! This is not sarcasm or bait to make you search up something upsetting! The man just went from Audition and Ichi the Killer to a series of live action magical girl shows. Something something the duality of man.

[@enviizomby]

i love that omg

[@gnalkhere]

I've seen Enter The Void many times and it paid off cuz I met a girl at a college bar party who asked me if I've seen it and we've been dating ever since. 10/2021: It's been 7 years and we got engaged this past July :D

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

See? This shit comes in handy every once in a while.

[@daisyjoy242]

What's interesting

[@FreakoftheAngels]

Noice

[@FinallyOffMyChest]

What about Irreversible? That was a fucked up Gaspar Noe one!

[@TheSLATEcleaner]

Cold, but I think correct, take: Gummo isn't disturbing, rather capitalism and the poverty that comes from it is disturbing. I don't think it fits on an iceberg that's primarily focused on sensational/over-the-top violence. I think of Gummo as being disturbing in more-or-less the same way as Parasite or Sorry to Bother You, where the discomfort of the film comes from it forcing us to confront our complicity in a system that rewards the behaviors in and creates the conditions necessary for the films. Hot take: There should just be an entire tier of the iceberg for 'capitalism is a f*cking nightmare' and it should replace the vomit tier and get moved to the bottom of the iceberg, because capitalism is just a massive snuff film that more than half the country defends and we can't opt out of seeing it.

[@biggestastiest]

forced to be complicit* but i completely agree my dude

[@chuckmorales2760]

Based take comrade

[@chuckmorales2760]

Capitalism and the horrors experienced by it is by far the most visceral and terrifying things especially when you remember that it’s a real reality that thousands if not millions of people have to endure

[@beefkaqueenoftheworld]

based af 🙌

[@gigajulez]

go off sis

[@Rose-ef2cm]

To add onto why the Junko Furuta case is so dreadful: her murderers basically got off with little to no punishment due to Japanese laws being set up to protect minors as much as possible. Since her murderers were all minors at the time, this unfortunately resulted in a legal limitation to how much punishment they could receive. Later on they were all assisted by the government to be able to change their names and assume new identities. To this day, only one of the four murders has had his identity revealed because when he was an adult, he was arrested on separate charges, and so the protection he had as a minor regarding this case was revoked. The other three, as well as the countless people the four murders invited over to partake in the torture, are all free to this day.

[@RaspberryPastry]

I have zero intent to look any of this up but these videos kinda give the vibe of being at a sleepover and somehow getting your friend on a roll about the worst shit imaginable but because you love your friend it starts to hit like nostalgia even though you had nightmares for months afterwards

[@rjpark4751]

"Communism is when atrocity." -Karl Marx

[@neoh-n]

You spelled his name wrong 😡 it's Carl Mark🤬 get it right next time (For all intents and purposes this is a joke)

[@icetones6706]

First sentence of das kapital

[@d4v0r_x]

dat kapitass

[@free_siobhan]

@Larinda Nomikos no he said that

[@rjpark4751]

@Larinda Nomikos yeah its Capital Volume 1 page 256 like halfway through the page

[@Lukkilikka]

animal cruelty really bothers me. it bothers me even in non 'disturbing' movies... sometimes when i watch old westerns etc. the stuff that happens to horses etc is not. great

[@carnuatus]

I mean. Didn't it still kind of happen in LOTR, etc?

[@Lukkilikka]

@@carnuatus i don't know specifically about LOTR, but animal abuse has happened in later stuff and still does but it has gotten way better. it's a shame there are many wtf 'disturbing' or old movies i'd enjoy but there's animal abuse for no reason

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

Are you including fictionalized animal cruelty, or films that straight up just beat the shit out of animals?

[@brenetssss]

it bothers me when its real abuse

[@loki1456]

I can barely tolerate bad things happening to fictional animals. My father got verbally angry because I refused to finish I Am Legend because of what happens to Sam. I mean, he was verbally abusive on a good day, but just never finishing I Am Legend sticks out in my mind.

[@nattmazzoni]

I love how May saw this nightmare list and said: tbh, I have watched a bunch of fucked up movies that didn't make it here, so I'll add those

[@LARVAMOLT]

Your ending message here was really sweet and important. We're all here watching in morbid fascination because of whatever is going on in our personal lives. Thank you for the sobering message; there is so much more to life than death and despair

[@AraFrances168]

Watching Ichi the Killer with my friends in college was one of the best nights I can't remember

[@wilderulz]

I'm in the same boat as some other people commenting, in that I absolutely cannot watch these movies, but their existence is so fascinating to me. And you are just so darn charming that it makes learning about them a fun experience in a way, so thank-you for making videos!

[@sninckashley9514]

Watching this video really makes me think that the guiding philosophy behind movies like this is something along the lines of "we don't need characterization or story as long as someone's getting mutilated." Maybe I just don't understand some edgy "high art" principle, but a lot of these movies come off as incredibly lazy.

[@RoseVirusLV]

Thank you, I'm glad I'm not the only one. It's more annoying when you can tell alot of these movies want to be seen as high art or something more than the sum of their parts but they went to the school of "Gratuitous Shock value says enough!" When it doesn't.

[@PhoenixFireKMS]

My thoughts exactly!

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

Yeah, there’s a lot of stuff out there that genuinely has something to say, and chooses to say it in a really fucked up way for artistic reasons. But there’s just as much faux-art stuff that’s meant to make cash or appeal to somebody’s fetish, or write off taxes.

[@NoNoNah306]

Regarding The Bunny Game since you didn't talk about it much, the whole gimmick of the movie is that it is "real" in a way, in as much as all the tortures which take place the Actress/Writer Rodleen Getsic actually experienced, up to and including being branded.

[@СвеБожилова]

Oh I know her from doing some amazing guest vocals on Deftones' Knife Party 🧐.

[@DJBlastotron]

I like to think that May sitting in a well lit room in front of blinds that are slatted to show the night outside is symbolic of her telling us about all these bad, bad films so that we do not have to immerse ourselves in them to know of their darkness.

[@shannond1511]

"Mutilation of women is in a surprising amount of movies." Def not surprised. What else would be, naturally?

[@tatehildyard5332]

Platonic picnics in parks?

[@kikamesq2787]

Your videos are so iconic. Im a new fan of your channel and i've marathoned a ton of your videos in the past few weeks. I sent your last video to my brother in law who also enjoys this kind of messed up movie shit, and he just went "wait, she looks familiar" and apparently he watched your first few videos years ago, and i brought him back into contact with your channel and he's been binge watching all of your videos since. "She seems much happier now than she did before"

[@BonseyJonsey]

It's absolutely fucking infuriating that Junko Furuta's killers are walking free and ppl are exploiting her horrific death in movies and podcasts and other media for entertainment I hate it.

[@cooraa]

Man everytime I hear Junko's name I get depressed. Ironically, Junko Yagami is one of my favourite artists. Her story fucks me up everytime. I don't even remember all the details of her torture, but how could a couple of young boys do something so horrific to a young girl like her? And then essentially get away with it?! I even read somewhere that one of the guys is somewhat of a "celebrity" in Japan now. It makes me sick. Rest in peace Junko, I really hope her soul is resting well

[@supergingerr]

If it makes you feel any better I believe the 3 boys who did it are regularly doxed on 2 Chan (the og 4 Chan).

[@KNM17_91]

@@supergingerr really?!!

[@knofear8859]

I once went on a date with a dude who I knew was down, but then when I got to his place he insisted we watch Ichi the Killer first. Very weird night.

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

Was it fun, at least?

[@knofear8859]

@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick Define "fun" lol

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

@@knofear8859 Did you come out of the experienced satisfied, having gained more pleasure than displeasure?

[@knofear8859]

@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick Ya know what, looking back, I'm gonna say yeah, it was a net positive, in a strange way

[@moofoogee]

Yes I know she was an adult who could make her own choices but that still doesn’t stop me from feeling sad for Ameara Lavey. I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that Lucifer Valentine wasn’t paying the big bucks or offering health benefits. RIP.

[@cassp13]

wait she died?

[@haydenpontes6466]

@@cassp13 unforunately she was a victim in a double homicide (i believe?) back in the like 2016ish area

[@cassp13]

@@haydenpontes6466 oh that's fucking horrible, poor girl

[@daisyjoy242]

Question, what is ameara lavey

[@cassp13]

@@daisyjoy242 she was the main actress/character in the vomit gore trilogy

[@GothKatt]

I'll go ahead and correct you slightly on "Mai-chan's Daily Life". In the manga, and I've heard in the film, Mai-chan doesn't enjoy being hacked up for the pleasure of others. Instead, it seems she kind of blocks it out when she's not being mutilated. Also, the manga-ka behind the manga also created an ero-guro manga short story based off the Junko Furuta situation... Yeah...

[@moth5560]

honestly your little note at the end about how going through or seeing bad shit makes you see the world differently and that isn't always accurate to what the world actually is makes me feel a bit better and is insightful

[@Arachnes_Corner]

"Hi friends, and welcome back to the absolute pit of total hell." Ooh another good idea for my welcome mat.

[@joshuahanson6396]

May. Seriously, your the queen of commentary and an absolute joy to watch.

[@Aster_Risk]

An unhealthy breakfast and May talking about stuff I don't want to watch! This is a good(?) start to my day.

[@dubitataugustinus]

There actually is rape or at least sexual abuse in Audition, if you remember the flashbacks with the ballet teacher... I kinda wish I didn't, but gosh I love that movie.

[@naeimaify]

As someone who went through childhoodtrauma I have to say Tideland is one of my favorite movies. It's disturbing to watch for adults but I think the way they made the film from the point of view of a child, and thus some scenes that are disturbing for the grown up but they are done with the naivety of a child, blew my mind. I felt it brought a haunting but somewhat realistic view on how children mould their terrifying world into something bare-able.

[@ikariiprince]

Nyx I actually really appreciated that final message at the end. It really made me take a step back and think about the content I consume and how it can color my experience. So just, thank u for that

[@basicindiebro]

I have a stomach flu rn and I’m throwing up and stuff and hearing you talk about vomiting is hurting me but I’m so interested to hear the rest of this list lol

[@lulucool45]

thank you, you made me decide to finish my lunch before pressing play

[@donnylurch4207]

A "vomit comedy"... You mean a vom-com?

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

A vomedy?

[@SnowCat-nu7gj]

Honestly really needed that little bit at the end. Video in general is great but it's honestly so true. Sometimes when all you experience irl is trauma and tragedy and abuse and you use fictional media that reflects that to cope, it's really easy to forget there's more out there. That not every person you meet is a monster. That there's good too, that is presently outside of your narrowed world view

[@evunee]

I randomly got a Tumbling Doll of Flesh tshirt somehow from depop. One of my weirdest finds.

[@theunbearablejuan]

For real?

[@PandaAbuser16]

Yesss you’re really churning these out. This is greatly appreciated

[@TimDownsAnimation]

Thank you for that sort of... aftercare? at the end of the video lol. I think that's actually very valuable and helps a lot when talking about these kinds of films. it's very kind of you, and shows a great deal of empathy. we're all here for a grand ol' fuck-me-up time together, and that little reminder that it's just a fraction of real life is very necessary. good shit.

[@TheYellowGoggles]

I just wanted to say I love your approach to consuming and thinking about art. It's really inspired a more optimistic approach to media in myself and I just think that's wonderful, so thank you.

[@psychedelicbee5039]

Incredibly happy you got this out so soon after the last one

[@rebbi8548]

I am very happy to find a woman covering these, because many of these disturbing movies are just violence against women (which is disturbing don’t get me wrong), but many film bros will act like these movies are the magnum opus of horror movies which is just bullshit.

[@TheLokiBiz]

34:00 - What does Imperial Japan have to do with socialism or communism in the first place? They were allies of the Nazis, and enemies of the Soviets.... Or is the filmmaker one of those idiots who claims nazis were socialists?

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

I think you already know the answer to that question, comrade.

[@oddeyes9413]

Nazi did come from the National Socialist Workers Party. So, maybe? I'm not 100% sure.

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

@@oddeyes9413 The nazis aren’t socialists. They only called themselves that because socialism was actually popular in Weimar Germany. Hitler hated calling himself a socialist so much that he almost fucking quit.

[@oddeyes9413]

@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick Ah, okay. I completely forgot about that part.

[@TheLokiBiz]

@@oddeyes9413 Yes, just like the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is democratic because they chose to coopt the name *eyeroll*. It's well documented that the Nazi party choose their name as a way to play "both sides", appealing to the right with the "nationalism" bit and the left with the "socialist" bit - but if you actually look into it, Hitler absolutely hated socialism and communism. Workers in no way had communal ownership of the means of production (which is the actual definition of socialism) in Nazi Germany.

[@michaelpluta3898]

I had to dip partway through because some of the descriptions were getting a bit much for me, but here's some extra engagement to make up for it! Love your vids

[@thesupershrew1746]

The only part of The Bunny Game that's interesting to me is the fact that the lady who co-wrote and stars in it is the guest vocalist on Deftones' "Knife Prty" (the best Deftones song) which just seems like the strangest but also simultaneously most normal connection.

[@drewmode227]

"WoooooooaaaAaaaAAAAAAAAAaaaAaAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!" - best part of Knife Party.

[@XxPiRoXxX]

i KNOW i'VE seen a few Disturbuing Movies icebergs reviews, but this is honestly one of my favorites because it gives a totally different perspective. I also appreciate you explaining some other films which would work to include and why.!

[@giovannialvarez9289]

The manga Mai Chan's Daily Life is based on is WAY WAY WAY WORSE than the movie.

[@kostajovanovic3711]

Oh no....

[@jobrasheare7856]

Yup. Two words. Baby Blender

[@nico.f.]

I find it to be a meaningless waste. I respect eroguro plenty, but that manga has absolutely no reason for being other than to satisfy the brutal mysoginistic fantasies of the author and audiences.

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

@@nico.f. It’s not even the worst thing that that specific mangaka has made. Like, remember that Juvenile Crime movie this video mentions about the tortuous death of Junko Faruta? Well, Waits Uziga, writer and illustrator of Mai-Chan’s Daily Life, figured he had something to say about it too. It’s just as bad as you imagine it would be, if not worse.

[@dante_dagger]

“Fred Vogel… gets shit done in the disturbing movies community.” I’ve been delving into extreme cinema for a minute and your delivery of the info is my favorite that I’ve seen of all “disturbing movie iceberg” videos.

[@PersonalZombie]

today i learned that there's way more horror films that are just weird fetish content than i thought possible!

[@markz2666]

I was worried I was going to have a good morning. Thank you for uploading.

[@Bitzie56]

If anyone remembers, it would be one of y'all: does anyone know the movie about the guy with a speech impediment who works as a door-to-door salesman and lives in a tiny apartment with a roommate? He gets verbally abused by everybody-the roommate, his boss, etc., and the whole film is deeply lonely and sad. In the end, he somehow lands at a college(?) Party and basically has a panic attack. Much more disturbing than Gummo, but the same general concept of society eating this man alive and he's trapped in it. I can't remember the name of the film for the life of me

[@karjo1000]

What the fuck I just watched the first one and was like "god I can't wait until she makes a new one" Genuinely convinced you read my mind.

[@puppable]

the worst crime of "Girl Hell 1999" is stealing the coolest possible name from the use of the transgender community

[@flickerboxfilms5128]

I know this is a British Website but there’s a site called Melon Farmers which details how cut films are in the UK. The BFI’s release of the Devils is the original X rated cut with the scenes you mentioned as well as the “use” of the dead Grandier’s femur missing. All these scenes still exist as excerpts were used in a British doc about censorship. Mark Kermode has also confirmed they existed as he’s viewed them and tried desperately to get them reinstated.

[@dlo7253]

I got so lightheaded when I saw that damn Slaughtered Vomit Dolls poster in the thumbnail. War flashbacks are too real with that one.

[@Alexis-pl5cn]

Thank you for making these so I didn't have to Google them! I need a very base level of understanding to fulfill the morbid curiosity that keeps me up at night without suddenly reaching that level of true understanding that really keeps me up at night.

[@yourpalfred]

"I feel Takashi Miike needs to be mentioned." - every J Horror fan

[@queendany1221]

I knew that Mai Chan's daily life was a manga but never knew it was turned into a movie. Thanks, I will be avoiding both XD

[@everyvillainislemons7583]

Lucifer Valentine has to be the most laughable moniker ever conceived

[@dullroar2673]

Madonna Wayne Gacy a close second

[@CeeJayThe13th]

@@dullroar2673 is that really worse than Ginger Fish?

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

You seem to forget that, in this very same video, there is a man named Jimmy Screamer-Claus.

[@daisymorse6132]

After listening to you and watching your videos, I can 100% say I would only ever watch any of these movies as long as it was with you. You’re very comforting and funny and idk I feel like it would just provide a necessary cushion

[@Boggythefroggy]

Wait the peepee poopoo man reached out to you?? That is either awesome or terrifying haha, I’m glad he was nice at least haha.

[@cisrot]

I watched “Men Behind the Sun”, 1988, not too long ago and it was genuinely so upsetting. The film did an exceptional job at portraying the awful and needless violence and torture that went on during the Second World War in an area that’s often forgotten about. I think that if you’re interested in history, absolutely give this film a watch. Despite it being quite an old film at this point, there are some scenes that really grossed me out. The worst for me was a scene where a man gets put into this pressure chamber and is killed in it, his intestines crawl out of his asshole like a snake and he just leaks blood and shit. It’s so gross and tbh as a film student who loves SFX, the team behind the film did a great job with a lot of the special effects. There’s another scene where a woman gets her hands frozen, warmed up and then all the skin on her arms gets ripped off only leaving behind her bones. The fact that these things actually took place, that this needless human cruelty happened.. it breaks my heart. I think in order for history to not repeat itself, more people should research the atrocities that happen. If you are too squeamish for films, absolutely do some research on written accounts.

[@samwill7259]

44:16 . I almost made it, but I am not made of the right stuff. I can feel my entire body tingling like my soul is trying to evacuate. I always TRY with this channel because I don't want to bubble up in my nice, safe, SFW corner of the world but more often than not I just have to bail for my mental and physical health.

[@snottyboy95]

Hey may - I’ve been following you for years now, and I gotta say: I always liked your content but this past year, you being your true self, I LOVE it. There’s such a difference in the way you present yourself and how genuine it feels. Just wanna say I’m proud of you and keep it up 🤘✨

[@BratzBoyMax]

May suffers for her art. I hope she has a way to detox her mind after seeing these movies.

[@p.d.l7023]

I hope that she doesn't watch them back to back. Movies like this can blast your sanity.

[@meganmccrumb220]

Even though you said you were going to stop talking about disturbing or gross movies on your channel, seeing videos like these and your DVD Graveyard just make my day. Thank you for your amazing videos May!

[@UndeadDysfunction]

"Pissing on a girl and torturing her and then going to a Korn concert." Isn't this just a typical friday night for teenage boys in the late 90's?

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

Nah, most teenage boys in the 90’s had to make do with fantasizing about it, and recreating their fantasies in Build Engine maps.

[@kayleighbrown459]

So, fun story. When I was in Uni my film lecturer was a guy who has kinda based a lot of his career on Ken Russel. Like, written a bunch of books about him. Film scholar stuff and somewhere along the lines, he managed to meet the guys widow and she gave him what I think must of one of like five other copies of the complete, unedited, uncut, technically illegal version of the Devils. And we got to watch it. And like it was one of those, you watch this now or you never watch it kinda things cause he wasn’t allowed to give it out to us cause he wasn’t even supposed to have it. One of the coolest movie going experiences of my life honestly.

[@TheBluemechanic]

I know that The Devils is available on DVD in the UK thanks to the British Film Institute, but it is still missing the rape of Christ scene because of Warner Brothers not wanting it released

[@ladygrey4113]

Honestly, I don’t think the movie was too bad (except for when the nun is dragged off and by the exorcist but it was mostly off screen) the movie is however intensely political. It’s more a cautionary tale on both the hazards of blending religious institutes and government as well as makes some commentary on the repression of women (there’s a bit where the nuns point out to another woman that almost none of them are there because they want to be but rather they couldn’t get married, were ill or poor so they were dumped at the nunnery).

[@aksela6912]

I just came to think of another legit good and respectable movie that might mess you up real bad, despite not including a drp of bodily fluid (as far as I can remember: The Fire Within (Le feu follet) by Louis Malle. It's such an utterly depressing and lonely movie. If you have some of that in you it might not be a good thing to watch, but also, if you don't have some of that in you it might not make much sense.

[@duxwontobey4887]

I feel like at a certain level of this iceberg you get to films that in my opinion shouldn't exist, because they're lowkey dangerous to peoples minds to see! Like, I'm all for people going on their mad sexual journeys experiencing things that are morally ok but extreme like scat n extreme bdsm and even like, dangerous shit but there's like, a limit, for both film and media where like, maybe we don't need this to exist, even on an artistic level.

[@whatinthegoddamn2353]

Im not even halfway thru this video but this comment scares me

[@rat_bat]

your eye makeup is so good in this video. i also have the hooded eyelids and have tried and failed many times to make the wing look like that

[@markt8475]

No functioning person who wants to remain that way ever needs to delve past tier 4. But at least it was all described in a very pleasant and entertaining way. 👍

[@SaladPizzaRestaurant]

Tier 6 documentaries are really interresting. Tier 7 is gross but few of them are pretty good. 8 is just boring and lazy filmmaking

[@ashestoashes78]

My gut tells me that Where The Dead Go To Die somehow inspired a lot of modern adult animated shows.