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@MarcusBlueWolf
@MarcusBlueWolf 3 жыл бұрын
Being caught grooming minors and raping dogs isn’t exactly “controversy” it’s criminal
@Jynxxx5
@Jynxxx5 3 жыл бұрын
@Aero Husky grooming is illegal if you’re caught. Raping dogs is a crime.
@lonely_saturn
@lonely_saturn 3 жыл бұрын
@Aero Husky Grooming is a crime in the US.
@Naranylla
@Naranylla 3 жыл бұрын
We do need to keep in mind these are still allegations, I think that's why he use "controversy". Along with the youtube censorship system. They do look pretty incriminating so far though.
@swimmingbird243
@swimmingbird243 3 жыл бұрын
@@Naranylla honestly, as much as I understand calling them allegations however there is enough evidence presented for it to go beyond just allegations.
@Jynxxx5
@Jynxxx5 3 жыл бұрын
@@Naranylla not really, a lot of people who worked for DHC said something about it and that can be taken as proof because they were witnesses and were around Lucky.
@antlercatler
@antlercatler 3 жыл бұрын
It's heartbreaking when creators that you love and look up to turn out to not be so great
@clayforge4336
@clayforge4336 3 жыл бұрын
I know
@hoteltoons3015
@hoteltoons3015 3 жыл бұрын
@Clay Forge Yeah just like the biggest lying scumbag Hopeless Peaches! ^^ Idk this person that makes fursuits,the only people i am familiar with furries are SparksFur and PandaPaco. I don't buy fursuits or cosplay i just draw furry ocs. This is terrible to hear from! Those poor cats!
@MarcusBlueWolf
@MarcusBlueWolf 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly why I don’t idolise “popular” furries
@goldenwolf2462
@goldenwolf2462 3 жыл бұрын
I love don’t hug cacti there suits are amazing and adorable seeing this about dhc upsets me
@malikharrell2488
@malikharrell2488 3 жыл бұрын
I feel you. I've always checked her out on Instagram. Even followed her. As an artist myself and a lover of furry art, I loved seeing the many artworks that she posted on there along with her cute fursuit pics. Then all of this happened. Like this caught me by surprise. I didn't know her all that well, but from what I've seen publicly, she seemed like a caring sweet woman with a love for art and fursuit design. At least thats what it looked like on the outside anyway... Who knew she would be guilty of doing such sick things. Its the kind of behavior that gives us furries such a bad rep. Its so sad to see cause I liked her at one point. Now I'm just disappointed and I hope she gets help. I'm glad her former friends came together to put it out there warning other furs that she's doing these horrible things and needs to be stopped. Its just one of those situations where you also have to stop and ask yourself "Why did it take them so long to bring all of this to light?" I mean I guess they had to gather the evidence and stuff, but have they just been allowing her to do this all this time if they were aware of it? Cause from some of the evidence I've seen, some of it dates back almost a decade ago.
@TheFoxFromSplashMountain
@TheFoxFromSplashMountain 3 жыл бұрын
Being in this fandom has taught me a very important lesson. Don't. Trust. Anyone. It seems almost every day, one of my favourite furs are being outed as disgusting creeps. It's the reason I'm not very active in the fandom anymore, it's just disturbing to think how many of these people are hiding right under our noses.
@RosheenQuynh
@RosheenQuynh 3 жыл бұрын
Not trusting anyone isn't good. Everyone needs a support circle to get through hard times. If you don't be vulnerable with anyone, the isolation will kill you. We're social creatures. Putting up walls just... isn't a good idea. Edit: Also, oneself isn't wholly trustworthy, we are our own worst enemy most times; that's why true friends are there, to show you love when you can't do so yourself.
@FruitBatsLyra
@FruitBatsLyra 3 жыл бұрын
@@RosheenQuynh I agree, but also just be aware. Trust people, but don't be blind to any wrong doings that they may be committing.
@RosheenQuynh
@RosheenQuynh 3 жыл бұрын
@@FruitBatsLyra As someone who was betrayed by someone I wasn't expecting to be betrayed by, I wholeheartedly agree with what you said. I think the important thing to do is to trust cautiously. Until there's definitive proof a person will be a forever friend, you cannot trust completely. My forever friends gave me proof so I definitely trust them completely with my life.
@ThaneOfLichen
@ThaneOfLichen 3 жыл бұрын
Wait who else was outed? I love under a rock srry
@TheFoxFromSplashMountain
@TheFoxFromSplashMountain 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThaneOfLichen There was a huge Telegram chat leak back in 2018 which exposed a whole bunch of furs as zoosadists, one of which was Kero The Wolf, who was a well known fur. I won't detail it here, but let's just say, the people in that chat are some of the most depraved, psychotic subhumans in the fandom.
@invaderhorizongreen8168
@invaderhorizongreen8168 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly it really sucks to find out an artiest or maker you looked up to turns out to be absolute toxic garbage.
@brucebowman1479
@brucebowman1479 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr. I feel you.
@malikharrell2488
@malikharrell2488 3 жыл бұрын
For real. Its just like when you find a KZbinr who is cool, funny and entertaining, just to find Expose videos about them. Then suddenly you find expose videos of the very person who was exposing that KZbinr and so on. Like is there anyone we can trust these days? Or do we all now have to just expect them to be hiding some horrible dark secrets behind a pretty smile? (Or in this case, a pretty fursuit)
@canyounotmydude9155
@canyounotmydude9155 3 жыл бұрын
Cryaotic, Cosmodore, Mini Ladd, CallMeCarson, JinBop, EDP445, Mandopony, Shane, John Bob, Narpy, and probably millions more to come this year.
@bigdonutsandpinkcupcakes3721
@bigdonutsandpinkcupcakes3721 3 жыл бұрын
Mandopony, Ino89777, Kittydog, Synnibear03, Lovely Lauren, Nos Hyena and... Those are the only ones I can think of at the top of my head.
@Sylveon474
@Sylveon474 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigdonutsandpinkcupcakes3721 what did ino do?
@I_am_Cheesecake
@I_am_Cheesecake 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for spreading awareness about this issue! It’s important that furries know what kind of people they’re giving their money to!
@vert7884
@vert7884 3 жыл бұрын
I like your name
@omegacenturion6508
@omegacenturion6508 3 жыл бұрын
@@vert7884 He is cheesecake
@FoxInnaHat
@FoxInnaHat 3 жыл бұрын
Sergal energy is strong in this one
@amerisartanimation
@amerisartanimation 3 жыл бұрын
Only some of them or bad, not all of them!
@skiebleu2363
@skiebleu2363 3 жыл бұрын
@@amerisartanimation yeah we cool 😎
@NeeraTheLynx
@NeeraTheLynx 3 жыл бұрын
And of course haters will see this and pin every furry as a terrible monster, no matter who you are. Furry or not there is no justifying this disgusting act, I had to unsubscribe a KZbinr that I knew for years because there’s allegations of them...uh going after the younger fans.
@FlyingCougar42
@FlyingCougar42 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I used to love his content but I can’t support him any longer.
@snailkat
@snailkat 3 жыл бұрын
Imma wait until people come to furries comments and say “ FURRIES ARE GROSS AND EVIL”
@mustardman9178
@mustardman9178 3 жыл бұрын
@@snailkat I mean you ain’t wrong
@blueberrypitbull87
@blueberrypitbull87 3 жыл бұрын
But, are the allegations true or false allegations? Because we are living in a culture nowadays that, people are being falsely accused of stuff they didn't do. Especially with men. And people always deem men to be guilty no matter what.
@NeeraTheLynx
@NeeraTheLynx 3 жыл бұрын
@@blueberrypitbull87 there was a video about them and their friends coming out saying the allegations are true.
@grovitron
@grovitron 3 жыл бұрын
Dont call this a controversy, these are serious crimes that hurt many innocenet people.
@Geidi174
@Geidi174 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a controversial topic.
@durhamsaber
@durhamsaber Жыл бұрын
@@Geidi174 Sounds like they need to be held to account in court of law, as opposed to the court of public opinion. If Lucky is guilty, the evidence should support this and the case would lead to a conviction. HOWEVER, it's been years since this was put out yet (AFAIK) Lucky hasn't been charged with anything. -- For THIS reason, I'm concerned that the people involved don't have concrete evidence to support the accusations. In other words, it's all hear-say. -- And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I don't believe that Lucky's off scott-free, BUT rather that we need to get our crap together if we want to affect real change.
@inactive.mp4
@inactive.mp4 3 жыл бұрын
Lucky's "boyfriend" is actually her spouse. They're married.
@IndieTimberStudio
@IndieTimberStudio 3 жыл бұрын
Before this Google docs had shared, there is one DHC suiter I did interacted that I didn't know he's a P and Z which I avoided him and I almost quit being a furry. I'm still part of the fandom but I'm still trying to forget that situation.
@U.R.coolkid
@U.R.coolkid 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you're able to heal from such a traumatic thing, that just sounds horrible to interact with anyone like that :(
@IndieTimberStudio
@IndieTimberStudio 3 жыл бұрын
I also forgot to mention: I did talk to my parents, my therapist, my former college friends, and my local furry discord group about this situation. I'm planning to make a video about this but I have to wait for the perfect time.
@Mal-ou8yl
@Mal-ou8yl 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my God that’s horrible. I hope your doing better and have recovered from that situation.
@bigytutoshd5146
@bigytutoshd5146 3 жыл бұрын
@@IndieTimberStudio is he in jail now?
@IndieTimberStudio
@IndieTimberStudio 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigytutoshd5146 I have a friend who either work/major in the justice system (I'm not sure exactly). He actually helped my other friend and I to report the situation. Right now, we're waiting for the news/updates.
@jeice-sonocteer1199
@jeice-sonocteer1199 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not exactly a furry community member, but this sort of content and discussions remind me that not every person in any community is a saint.
@H3XED_OwO
@H3XED_OwO 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for not overgeneralising!
@tooshrimpleforit
@tooshrimpleforit 3 жыл бұрын
literally just appeared in my recommendations no clue who you are no clue on what even this is about *but that Mario Kart gameplay gives me so much nostalgia holy crap*
@rachelwilcox52
@rachelwilcox52 3 жыл бұрын
same
@voodooopaque6357
@voodooopaque6357 3 жыл бұрын
This comment made me laugh so hard
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, I'm going to be blunt... ...If Lucky was actually killing animals and showing no empathy towards her friends, she may actually be a sociopath, and unfortunately the only treatment for that is the kind of treatment that involves a very long stay in a clinic.
@mr.x2567
@mr.x2567 3 жыл бұрын
Or death of course
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.x2567 No, we are not killing anyone.
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mayo-hd4wi I said "may", not "is". Bit of a difference there.
@mr.x2567
@mr.x2567 3 жыл бұрын
@@VestedUTuber but sociopaths can’t be cured, and we can’t let them just run free...
@mr.x2567
@mr.x2567 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mayo-hd4wi I’ve wanted to die for a while, and I suffer by the hands of sociopaths.
@FoxInnaHat
@FoxInnaHat 3 жыл бұрын
being a new furry and seeing stuff like this kind of scares me, my interest was for a more cutesy wholesome reason, I'm not sure how much of the fandom of this kind of stuff takes place in but I really hope that it's just a small minority.
@Here_is_Waldo
@Here_is_Waldo 3 жыл бұрын
Very small minority, no bigger than any other fan base really. That's just what happens when so many people are part of a group; there's always a chance one or two will be up to questionable behaviour.
@fallen_vague28
@fallen_vague28 3 жыл бұрын
It is small, but the splotches and stains are well spread out. I guess the best advice to give is to be what you want, and follow whoever you want, but to also be mindful and aware of who you look up to
@JustAPairofLegs
@JustAPairofLegs 3 жыл бұрын
I use to say I was a “furry” but not anymore I’m done with the furry community there is nice people but majority is just cringe and Terribal
@tentaclewoof
@tentaclewoof 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure someone else has mentioned this, but Lucky has responded with a 25 min video that basically cherry picks info and stretches the truth to make herself out to be the true victim. Instead of taking responsibility, she blames cancel culture, brushes over most of the claims in the document and even tells Quetins to "donate that GoFundMe money to charities that help REAL victims :)" at the end. At no point does she apologize in it either, so take that as you will
@silly.bear.dude6907
@silly.bear.dude6907 3 жыл бұрын
animal abuse is not controversy. It’s illegal. Grooming adults and especially minors isn’t controversy. It’s illegal. There is no way to defend DHC. She needs to be taken from the fandom and put in jail. Thank yew for listening to my Ted talk ✨⭐️
@weasel1822
@weasel1822 3 жыл бұрын
Oof the furry community is already crucified enough with misinterpretations from the media and ignorant people enough. When we got people like Lucky hiding amongst furries just makes things worse.
@James-ro7rx
@James-ro7rx 3 жыл бұрын
I hate being a fur when stuff like this happens constantly.....it just makes me want to just leave the fandom completely
@RUBYthedragon
@RUBYthedragon 3 жыл бұрын
Nah.This has been an amazing example of the good in the fandom. When one person came out as bad thousands stepped up to show support for victims, and hundreds 'put there money where there mouth is' and raised funds for Queten's legal defence. This is a glowing example of the good in the fandom. We lifted Lucky up because we belived in her. We shouldn't be ashamed of that. And we can hold her accuontable for her actions the way no other community can. Fandom is good, don't let one bad person ruin it for you when hundrends more are good people.
@pikaperishock1478
@pikaperishock1478 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately stuff like this happens in a lot of fandoms to be honest, I mean ones they have lots of kids or just people in it are going to have that bad group.
@jazzratoon
@jazzratoon 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think the furry fandom is only of doing shady stuff.
@JotaroKujo-sx9hi
@JotaroKujo-sx9hi 3 жыл бұрын
@@jazzratoon yeah.. the anime community
@basilmybeloved7170
@basilmybeloved7170 3 жыл бұрын
I left thw furry fandom because of people like this and the toxicity. I think its worth it to leave and u should to..
@iaminhere6022
@iaminhere6022 3 жыл бұрын
Seether of Cord the spiller of tea, bringer of good vibes and a sona to hug.
@iaminhere6022
@iaminhere6022 3 жыл бұрын
with BEANS
@ekholocation4574
@ekholocation4574 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard rumors about this but holy shit
@malikharrell2488
@malikharrell2488 3 жыл бұрын
@Warpath :3 Eh, Idk about that. This occured back in September and looking at both sides of the situation, the evidence seems solid as much as I want it to just be a rumor. Its so sad to see stuff like this happen. Trust is becoming less and less of a possibility. Next thing you know our own families will be plotting against us. Smh.
@scorchclasstitan6727
@scorchclasstitan6727 2 жыл бұрын
@@malikharrell2488 that’s already been happening :P. It’s called capitalism.
@hokageobama4003
@hokageobama4003 3 жыл бұрын
If someone ever deserved the title 'Super Villain', this person would be it. As a outsider of the community, it's unfortunate that people see this and link it to being a furry. It's essential to linking video game violence to real violence. It seems to me that the community as a whole are quick to block out those who do such inhumane things, no matter who they are within the community. I wonder how much better society would be if we did this to people of higher stature?
@RoseOfEnigma
@RoseOfEnigma 3 жыл бұрын
DHC is like the Onision of the furry fandom and it shows.
@PaintedBB
@PaintedBB 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing how cute the first Lucky Coyote fursuit is is what got me into the fandom, like 15 years ago. It's terrible finding out this about the creators :c
@blitzsucksatroblox8211
@blitzsucksatroblox8211 3 жыл бұрын
One day I went on their website looking to see if i can get a fursuit and something was telling me "this person is evil" i guess i was right
@nomore9655
@nomore9655 3 жыл бұрын
I've also been hearing that a lot of other people have been hating and telling other people who have Don't Hug cacti suits to get rid of them you gotta realize suits cost a ton of money personally I don't know how much Don't Hug cacti size full suits or even if they do make partials I don't know how much they cost either way there a lot of money in those suits is that person's beloved character just because the company did something bad stuff that they should not have done at all that doesn't mean that you can just go tell people to get rid of their suits their literal children so please don't tell people to get rid of or burn or throw away their suits or sell it just because the company did something bad
@STAMPLETTERSAAAA
@STAMPLETTERSAAAA 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it'd be like telling someone to vomit up their lunch if the fast food joint is controversial/supports controversial topics lmao.
@Dhyr
@Dhyr 2 жыл бұрын
I had one of those suits I had tons of subscribers in tell people found out what she did and they started to unsubscribe me I was like why in tell I saw a video about and I was disappoint very much I loved my suit but I thrown it away because she might have you know what dogs in that suit
@maximeleninja4029
@maximeleninja4029 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's like you buy a lunch box for school and someone just randomly walks to you and said "throw it away because it is made in China". But those people have to learn that you can't save something that is already made
@zacharydj12
@zacharydj12 3 жыл бұрын
ngl your character is neat and some of the still images for the character are cute
@Fang_Face
@Fang_Face 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know this person and I'm not defending them, but I will say this. A person can start a business and developed a dislike for it as time goes on. Dealing with customers can make you hate them. This person sounds sick.
@alchemlemnis
@alchemlemnis 3 жыл бұрын
off topic but your fursona looks very huggable for some reason
@AuraFerret
@AuraFerret 3 жыл бұрын
I actually saw them at a con... I got a photo with them. Never could’ve guessed.. they were so nice!! But uh... I guess they aren’t nice anymore
@samuraijackoff5354
@samuraijackoff5354 3 жыл бұрын
Evil is clever and deception is it’s most powerful weapon.
@AuraFerret
@AuraFerret 3 жыл бұрын
@@samuraijackoff5354 yep.
@potato-rp2bf
@potato-rp2bf 3 жыл бұрын
To quote Into the Woods: “Nice is different than good”
@dontthinkdontthink
@dontthinkdontthink 3 жыл бұрын
I loved those suits and they were my hero...wow I can't believe this- I'm really speechless..-😧
@ekholocation4574
@ekholocation4574 3 жыл бұрын
It's like a punch in the gut
@malikharrell2488
@malikharrell2488 3 жыл бұрын
@Warpath :3 I know this is off topic but that Loona pfp. Nice ^^
@kendingus
@kendingus 3 жыл бұрын
@Warpath :3 You may as well keep it now, it's already there, and getting rid of it would just be wasteful
@exist4046
@exist4046 3 жыл бұрын
@Warpath :3 take it and turn it into something better. You cant help that you didnt know, nor did many other people in general. Dont waste it, use it to bring attention to the issue.
@ThePhantomSafetyPin
@ThePhantomSafetyPin 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how I got onto the furry side of KZbin, but I do have friends in this community and I'm always down for drama. From the perspective of an outsider looking in I can confirm this is exactly what too many people think about the entire furry fandom, and that's just not the case at all. It's extremely upsetting, I don't care who you are, to find out there's a zoophile and groomer in your fandom.
@AwesomeRainbowLP1
@AwesomeRainbowLP1 3 жыл бұрын
I spent the past two hours reading some of the Testimonies and I can't imagine the pain and suffering they've been through. This is heartbreaking. I sincerely wish the best for all of them.
@chalcedonyclapper1216
@chalcedonyclapper1216 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I'm honestly pretty damn dissapointed and almost a little mad to hear about this. I hope they can get help and change for the better, if they try they can. But one thing about this that makes me annoyed, is yoy know that this info will get around the internet, and because it's bad news it will gain more traction and be more interesting to normal people. They will read an article or something and then immediately think that furries are terrible. I know that's not the problem right now, but it is annoying
@joshbryant1133
@joshbryant1133 3 жыл бұрын
“When you see a good person, think of becoming like her/him. When you see someone not so good, reflect on your own weak points.” - Confucius
@ariusluvsu
@ariusluvsu 3 жыл бұрын
this is disgusting i cant believe i never knew DHC was this toxic
@SP1D3Rstudios
@SP1D3Rstudios Жыл бұрын
even watching this back two years later i still think the way you explained deadnaming was perfect, me as a trans person appreciates it a lot
@JinglezDaClown
@JinglezDaClown 3 жыл бұрын
While I do think this is something that needs to be talked about more, calling literal child grooming and zoophilia "controversy" is a piss poor take.
@pengudatu
@pengudatu 3 жыл бұрын
As an owner of 4 beautiful loving birds this really broke my heart, i can't imagine what goes though animal abusers heads
@tristanscrazenanigans1636
@tristanscrazenanigans1636 3 жыл бұрын
I read the story about Lucky was acting like her husband’s friend were cheating with her husband while all they did was work out and got bagels. Just like Dr. Funtlichter has diagnosed someone before, sounds like Cacti has a text book case of “Bitch Be Crazy Disease”
@Bl4ckC4tsH3ll
@Bl4ckC4tsH3ll 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, this NEEDS to be talked about! This needs to have more attention this is illegal and disgusting, I never heard of this maker but I’m glad because there have been so much hurt done to living people and animals, I hope there all healing and staying strong. I hope the law gets involved with Lucky they are awful and that wasn’t okay, someone is even getting sued all because they were spreading around the information from the document even though they didn’t make it, this person should not be in the fandom nor have a big fursuit maker company this is horrible.
@mrwatch1396
@mrwatch1396 3 жыл бұрын
Finally nice seeing someone explaining what’s going on as i was surprised no one had talked about what’s been going on.
@jakherbertson4778
@jakherbertson4778 3 жыл бұрын
Don't even get me started on people doing a freaking podcast with the accused to speak up over the victims. That was the last straw that broke the camel's back for me. I was cautiously optimistic for what they had to say at first but ho boi was I disappointed.
@thatgazelle2001
@thatgazelle2001 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry Seether I love your content and I know you are very cautious with people being angry at other people but we need to draw a line somewhere otherwise people like this will think they stand a chance. Lucky I believe is someone who yes indeed should be distanced from the fandom and never let back in. People like this have been told to "see a therapist" over 50 billion times, they don't give a shit, they've had more then one chance to redeem themselves. People like this are so stubborn in their ways that unfortunately they just can't be helped so yes I think she should RESPECTFULLY be removed from the fandom because these are the people that hurt it. People should get the information about her out there and after it's wide spread... ignore her, forget she was ever part of the fandom, if financially possible people stop wearing her fursuits, remove photos of her from a Furry social medias, just make it like she was never here that's the best way to do it and it works. I just wanted to get this off my chest I know you don't want your channel be depressing or aggressive but Seether lines must be drawn at some point and some people don't deserve a second chance... because they've already wasted hundreds of them
@dougloremaster7413
@dougloremaster7413 3 жыл бұрын
I am not a furry. I can, however, respect one who has a passion for their fandom and a moral compass. Also, your avatar is exceedingly well done; not too gaudy or outlandish but unique enough in color scheme to be eye-catching. I look forward to more of your videos. You have my sub.
@ax-50
@ax-50 3 жыл бұрын
I know this hits hard, but reality can sometimes be painful. Anyone who had been hit hard by this news, I wish you a good and smooth recovery
@KaraMagpie
@KaraMagpie 3 жыл бұрын
That's awful... thank you so much for sharing this information with us, we need to be aware of people like Lucky.
@muzunomi
@muzunomi 3 жыл бұрын
I have a paw print tattoo on my arm and...I've been accused of being a zoophile by other furs because of the tattoo.. I just wanted to get a tattoo for the fandom and instead I got attacked :c
@lee_aveittome
@lee_aveittome Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry that happened to you. :( honestly this is why I'm concerned to get a paw print tattoo. I wanted one as a memorial for a dog that passed but being a furry I didn't want to be associated or accused with/of being with zoos
@Sebastian_Michaelis
@Sebastian_Michaelis 3 жыл бұрын
Really happy a youtuber is addressing this!
@flinticusmaximus5687
@flinticusmaximus5687 3 жыл бұрын
I've been in the fandom for almost 11 years, when the FUCK did the paw print because a symbol of zoophila
@chumii5678
@chumii5678 3 жыл бұрын
Uhm, it's very specific placement and color though. It doesn't mean that anyone with a pawprint on their sona is a zoo.
@flinticusmaximus5687
@flinticusmaximus5687 3 жыл бұрын
@@chumii5678 where's the placement and what's the colour?
@chumii5678
@chumii5678 3 жыл бұрын
@@flinticusmaximus5687 black paw on the spot where a dog would place it's paw if it was on top of you. It's also about the size of the animal's paw.
@flinticusmaximus5687
@flinticusmaximus5687 3 жыл бұрын
@@chumii5678 ahuh
@LuckyLittleLoki
@LuckyLittleLoki 3 жыл бұрын
Same except for me it's been 13 years 😭
@Veiraviss
@Veiraviss 3 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for people who own fursuit made by DHC and they probably love them and now uhh...
@trustweb99
@trustweb99 3 жыл бұрын
Some of them prominent members too
@simonorton
@simonorton 3 жыл бұрын
I told people about her 14 years ago but nobody listened
@kthekirin
@kthekirin 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to hear your story.
@America_USA-n1z
@America_USA-n1z 9 күн бұрын
@@kthekirin Same
@Insanitypup
@Insanitypup 3 жыл бұрын
I wasnt able to complete reading the document myself, so I highly appreciate your video high lighting the main /important facts.
@maximilianf.4236
@maximilianf.4236 3 жыл бұрын
Also, if the lawsuit by lucky comes through and the creator of the google document has to take it down: *YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THE GOOGLE DOC AS PDF OR WORD FILE* so if the document gets taken down you still have it locally and can share the information.
@malikharrell2488
@malikharrell2488 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing that on Twitter. I followed Lucky on Instagram. She posted so many cool artworks and cute fursuit pics, but then September of last year I saw people including furries commenting negative claims about her on her latest post and confused as I was I asked why were they calling her these things, then someone sent me a link to a twitter account who posted her wrong doings. After this incident, she disabled all comments on her Instagram and hasn't made a new post since. Its so sad. I liked her. She really seemed like a genuine person, but then all this stuff surfaced about her and I thought this would be another "Kero the wolf" situations. I hardly use Twitter so I didn't follow this story all that much, but I'm glad you were able to get this out there. I originally thought the people who posted all this stuff was trying to attack her, but watching this video I know that's not true. I don't want to hate her, but Lucky needs to seek help. What she's doing is just horrible and unacceptable. Edit: Lucky has put out her statement on KZbin and I think everyone should hear her out too.
@sheinaragners
@sheinaragners 3 жыл бұрын
tysm for finally talking about this. but i hope people who wear a fursuit by DHC wont be harassed because of this.
@brandonwadsworth7475
@brandonwadsworth7475 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like we have a psychopath
@AlpineMutt
@AlpineMutt 3 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to know about this for a while, just wasn't able to find the proper source. Thank you so much for making this vid!
@fritzedelweiss
@fritzedelweiss 3 жыл бұрын
There are more of those people in the fandom than you'd ever want to know
@spoon1245
@spoon1245 3 жыл бұрын
Can't believe people held these secrets on what she's done for years, because of fear because they fear of lashback and other stuff. I know I had an issue with a maker and I was immidately attacked. Best wishes to everyone who have been negatively affected by her. I dont say this lightly... Go to hell, Lucky.
@PercydeRoloFangirl
@PercydeRoloFangirl Жыл бұрын
Why do German Shepherds always get targeted by zoophiles which is especially horrible since they're really smart dogs one of the smartest breeds.
@JinxNightcore
@JinxNightcore 2 ай бұрын
Ikr it's so disgusting
@rorrim0
@rorrim0 3 жыл бұрын
"Why start a business when you're aren't enjoying what you're doing." Because its extremely easy to make money off furries, and its extremely easy to dislike furries.
@lachelnderhund
@lachelnderhund 3 жыл бұрын
Main reason I left the fandom To much drama, controversy and criminals I loved to draw fursonas without being closeted. Now because of people like this, I didn't wanna be in a fandom that has terrible, god awful reputation The fandom has gotten way out of hand with this...
@maximeleninja4029
@maximeleninja4029 2 жыл бұрын
There are lots of good things in the furry fandom, but sadly they get easily taken away by how corrosive the bad side is. I would call the furry fandom both a treasure hunt and a minefield.
@EricMadWolf
@EricMadWolf 3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea why this is in my recommendation but, I regret everything.
@celiajcallaway._
@celiajcallaway._ 2 жыл бұрын
These are the reasons why I don’t like to classify myself as part of the fandom. There is a disturbing number of creepy people like this. Although it is sad how haters can pick this up and label EVERY furry as being like this.
@benjamingreenwood7370
@benjamingreenwood7370 3 жыл бұрын
I deadass thought from the thumbnail this dude's name was all one word, as "donthugcacti" and read it as "Don-thug-cac-ti".
@KacemiHezo
@KacemiHezo 3 жыл бұрын
Howdy! I saw whole video and I come with a question if I can make my own, based on your video, but in Polish, because there are a lot of young furries in Poland who want to buy a lot of suits from this person and I would like to warn them ^^
@SeetherCord
@SeetherCord 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah sure go for it! ♡♡♡
@lizarr7176
@lizarr7176 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but if all the allegations being made against DHC are true, they do in fact need to be "run out of the fandom" as it was put. They should not be allowed to participate in any kind of community, period. Online or otherwise. And it should be made illegal for them to own, foster, look after, or work with any kind of animals for the rest of their life. And they need to face criminal charges for what they have done in regards to sexual assault, activity with minors, and animal abuse and neglect. These are not the kind of things we should grant any kind of understanding, lenience, or second chances towards. Once law enforcement is brought in, if they say DHC should be granted a second chance in certain areas after x amount of time in therapy or with some kind of restraining order or whatever, THEN we can talk about understanding and a gentler approach. For those who feel comfortable doing so.
@ElectroSwingingIt
@ElectroSwingingIt 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god. I thank you so much for the video and document! I was actually originally planning on getting a fursuit from DHC so thanks for changing my mind before it was too late.
@itsmelee8462
@itsmelee8462 3 жыл бұрын
The rabbit area makes so sad, I LOVE rabbits, and I wanted to cry hearing her poor caretaking of them.
@AlexFiliUK
@AlexFiliUK 3 жыл бұрын
It's really bad what has happened. Staying silent is one thing but the C&D is really not right at all. I hope they reform in the future and acknowledge the facts rather than try to bury them
@ShadSamD
@ShadSamD 3 жыл бұрын
"Controversy* is a hell of an understatement x.x
@fuilli
@fuilli 3 жыл бұрын
I think there's another way to stop that cease + desist ctrl - c, ctrl - v just copy it SO MUCH that DHC can't even send out enough cease + desist papers to stop it basically, just pull a Streisand effect on it (tho do still support the original source, I mean I do it with art (linking back to the original post/artist), and doing it with this will probably do much more than I can (don't have much cash to spend rn))
@ArantiusVulpes
@ArantiusVulpes 3 жыл бұрын
As a DHC suiter does this now mean we will be hated on? :( have been one since 2011
@Inkynator
@Inkynator 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this vid! I saw some stuff on twitter but I never undrestood what was actually happening
@apollosunshine3375
@apollosunshine3375 3 жыл бұрын
It was wondering what that was all about
@aikkizthepinkwolf3375
@aikkizthepinkwolf3375 3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@mysteryman8084
@mysteryman8084 3 жыл бұрын
@@aikkizthepinkwolf3375 oml ur here too
@aikkizthepinkwolf3375
@aikkizthepinkwolf3375 3 жыл бұрын
@@mysteryman8084 Yep
@claramiqo7691
@claramiqo7691 3 жыл бұрын
Biiiiig yikes for all this. I don't mind art being done, but doing stuff irl and hurting rl animals? Fuck that noise. Also, much like his pawprint statement, don't assume everyone that rps and/or has artwork of such things is a zoophile irl. Art and rp is fictional and should stay as such.
@local_anxiety_rat1276
@local_anxiety_rat1276 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Its important to remember things like yiff are still characters that can consent and make rational decisions while real animals can not!
@claramiqo7691
@claramiqo7691 3 жыл бұрын
@@local_anxiety_rat1276 Exactly! My fursona in feral form is still sentient and can consent. RL animals cannot and to do that to them is legit abuse.
@Mistthedummy1029
@Mistthedummy1029 3 жыл бұрын
@@claramiqo7691 SEE this is what I’m talking about feral characters and people who make them get backlash because it’s a “loophole” in reality feral characters have human intellect who can consent
@claramiqo7691
@claramiqo7691 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mistthedummy1029 Loophole my ass. Just cause someone rps a feral doesn't mean they'd ever consider doing such gross acts irl.
@Mistthedummy1029
@Mistthedummy1029 3 жыл бұрын
@@claramiqo7691 exactly! I hate when people attack feral artists on Twitter when they would never ever do things to a real animal ever.
@Rainfromthemoon
@Rainfromthemoon Жыл бұрын
This makes me so disgusted and sad, I’ve left the fandom multiple times because a lot of people seem to be bad in the fandom…but I love drawing ocs so it really sucks to even be in the same fandom as people like these
@lawsavior5042
@lawsavior5042 3 жыл бұрын
these are still allegations. the "evidence " being posted on twitter was just a google doc of he said/she said
@wolfe8035
@wolfe8035 3 жыл бұрын
You've basically made a video about how a highly valued fursuit maker/company turns out to be an outright narcissist.
@tubbyqueen
@tubbyqueen 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think I want a fur suit from them any more.. not if it’s been touched by anyone like that
@misha_B_Barkin
@misha_B_Barkin 3 жыл бұрын
Really glad to see someone made a video about this!! I was debating on talking about this on my own channel, but you covered all the bases and then some! Awesome video!
@woofnuggiez
@woofnuggiez Жыл бұрын
Why does it seem like every furry I ever kind of liked turns out to be an actual dog f*cker and p3do. It makes me worry about being somewhat in the fandom, is every furry secretly like this? Or does it just end up happening from being too involved in it? I don't know. I have no idea if I should defend the fandom anymore, tbh. I love the cuteness and fun of it, but I can't associate myself with these kinds of people. :(
@advertisedmanpower7155
@advertisedmanpower7155 2 жыл бұрын
now ima start claiming people with paw tattoos as zoophiles as a joke to myself
@HughJanusDaHorseshoeCrab
@HughJanusDaHorseshoeCrab 3 жыл бұрын
you know what, just for this, I'm going to hug a cactus
@Zamerus
@Zamerus 3 жыл бұрын
While it's admirable for them to say not to run this person out of the fandom. Baseline zoofiles don't have a place here, and in my personal opinion *should* be ejected because what they're doing or have done is awful
@undeaddoeinc.407
@undeaddoeinc.407 3 жыл бұрын
I'd just like to mention that Syber (MadeFurYou) hasn't said a word about her best friend Lucky Coyote in this. But did say something about Wild-Life fursuits defending them at first then retracting saying she doesn't support that shit. Sooo.... where's her post on Lucky? Her best friend. The person she visited a lot, invited to her wedding, got suit from AND upgraded? I think Syber has been really quiet about this and that should be brought to light as well.
@wiibrockster
@wiibrockster 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame really. I actually really liked their fursuits...
@gemtail3125
@gemtail3125 3 жыл бұрын
She just sounds like either a total sociopath or a narcissist.... Sounds like this one needs therapy AND jail time. I'm really glad I did not follow through with buying a fursuit from them.
@sassyhusky3168
@sassyhusky3168 3 жыл бұрын
This is really unfortunate, their suits are very HQ and are well know in the community but damn I hope she gets some sense on the type of image she's portraying for herself AND the fandom and changes for the better
@Sniwott
@Sniwott 3 жыл бұрын
Nearly 11k subs 👀
@SpitfireTheWolf
@SpitfireTheWolf 3 жыл бұрын
Really sad to see that not only were they one of the most popular fursuit makers but that it took them months to finally get a response only to have Blonde to deny everything and read everything from a script rather than saying words that should have come out of her mouth genuinely. It's really sad, but I have no sympathy for people who do this type of behavior
@JinxNightcore
@JinxNightcore 2 ай бұрын
I can't understand how people can do things like this it's absolutely disgusting and sad
@NylaTheWolf
@NylaTheWolf 3 жыл бұрын
This is disgusting...I can't believe that such a big creator turned out to be such a gross person
@joshmeister4449
@joshmeister4449 6 ай бұрын
As of june 2024, DHC's twitter page is all but dead, their facebook page is dead, and their FA account is dead as well, safe to say I think they figured out they arn't welcome here.
@SaintlySorrows
@SaintlySorrows 3 жыл бұрын
Why am I watching furry crimes if I'm not even a furry :v
@soysaucekitty
@soysaucekitty 3 жыл бұрын
.-. Since 2009 I wanted a suit from DHC.. rip.
@caitlinsnowfrost8244
@caitlinsnowfrost8244 3 жыл бұрын
Yikes, I really used to love DHC's fursuits- I found them super cute and expressive and nice. I really wish this fandom didn't have so many problematic people. Also, on a more positive note (because we need some of that), your 'sona is really cute!
@Heizena
@Heizena 3 жыл бұрын
I literally, just, what? How am I supposed to react to this?
@DimensionalDynamo
@DimensionalDynamo 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I’m having a insanely hard time about deciding who I should commission for my suit (I am planning on getting one) to be honest I’ll probably just over research EVERYTHING.
@Littlemeast12Animations
@Littlemeast12Animations 2 жыл бұрын
I recommend either “Skyehigh studios” or “Neffertity”! They are both very good fursuit makers.
@kittysoftpaws3677
@kittysoftpaws3677 2 жыл бұрын
I normally ask I Trans person if they're ok with me referring to them by their original name if im used to calling them that but if they explicitly ask me not to I'll try not to
@starfangirls
@starfangirls 3 жыл бұрын
I have to give a huge shout out for akramshi Also him : *thinking of ass*
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