The Doublelift and Regi Drama Explained

[@DannyBurke]

What's your thoughts on all this? I've seen plenty of strong opinions either way!

[@justine8469]

Either way, this drama overshadowed the amount of imports LCS will bring this year's off-season.

[@rpc808]

@@justine8469 true

[@chinesesparrows]

to put it mildly both are unabashedly "honest" so its he said he said to me.

[@gromponsu8913]

Regi has berated players until they've cried ON CAMERA. Imagine what he does off camera...

[@hardieharrharr]

If he cant name names, im skeptical about it. If you gonna snitch, go all out. Plus, I say ask Zaquri about all this

[@kenchen704]

Sincerely, when your org’s owner backseat games on Bjergsen’s coaching and openly tweets draft gap during series with C9, that’s crazy.

[@tunde9999]

i remembered there was a time where regi told the coaching staff and players to buy more green wards when green wards can no longer be bought in store. Guy is literally a backseat andy

[@ioiwut4874]

i'm sure you've seen the vid where he's arguing with xpecial over turtle who's just sitting there. regi is LITERALLY ACTUALLY BACK SEAT GAMING lmfao. i feel for turtle and respect tf outta xpecial for speaking up but it still makes me laugh the fact that he's literally in the back seat talking shit on pro players edit: replied before i knew they showed part of the clip

[@kaufmanek]

This is what happens when a disgusting human gains power.

[@jjohnson23231]

Bjerg was a garbage coach tho. Dude got draft kingdomed by anyone with a brain.

[@tunde9999]

@@jjohnson23231 true, they can't draft on the fly, team comps are always pre-drafted

[@Zelein]

We've known Reginald was a toxic, abusive bully for more than 8 years at this point. Ever since his complete rant against Dyrus who spoke out against him in frustration, and got straight up harassed in return for it, everyone have known exactly who Regi is. This is just confirmation at this point. Had Reginald been anything but the owner he would have been sacked YEARS ago. He's absolutely the core reason TSM is being held back, and any prior achievements has been despite of him, not because of him in any way. And I say this as an ex-TSM fan who left solely because of Reginald. Who can support a team who has that kind of ownership? And I'm no doublelift fanboy either. I have and will always think of Doublelift as an arrogant player with a massive ego who will always want to be center of attention. But I believe him when it comes to Reginald's alleged abuse.

[@0Adnin]

I don't know much about TSM. But I remember back on 2014. Astralis (Then TSM) decided to leave the organization because organization was not ready to listen to what team wanted and to run their own way. After leaving TSM, Astralis with 2 new players became the best of f@cking all time.

[@cryingwolf4955]

@@0Adnin I mean, him becomming the best just isn't true but i hear what you're saying

[@cryingwolf4955]

I've supported TSM mainly because I've always loved their players, but now that Bjerg let go I can move on. Go TL!

[@moorederodeo]

Yeah, I haven't followed league in a while, but I thought regi was known to be toxic

[@KHRrocks]

Thing is... some people grow up and change over 8 years, but regi hasn't changed much.

[@stango12]

The only interaction I’ve ever had with Reginald was when he was in a ranked game with me and flamed the fuck out of me as he ran it down on support

[@cyi2948]

XD

[@TehIdiotOne]

Isn't he hardstuck plat now or something?

[@missdifficulty905]

I had another friend play with him, and they said he was mechanically a bad player as well

[@BombMovie]

Same as he did with Turtle. You gotta watch the game he was flaming WildTurtle about. WildTurtled played pretty ok while reggi legit ran it down mid

[@koga477]

@@missdifficulty905 I mean he's no longer a pro lol, probably plays for fun

[@philiprivera9934]

Regi has it all! punchable face, height of a minion and toxic attitude. Dude needed more support than his own players

[@TitoBoy805]

So if Regi’s a minion, will we get gold if we last hit him?

[@RaveTheo]

@@TitoBoy805 we could try and see

[@kaminoyami30]

@@TitoBoy805 I wanna use ult and pulverize him tbh

[@danskyl7279]

Regi indeed has a punchable face, but I wouldn't. That bum doesn't deserve my fist.

[@justine8469]

This off-season is the best in LoL Esports history: • Carlos showing their org's true color • TSM Drama (Doublelift vs Reginald) • Rekkless moving to EU Masters • TL Super team consist of loyal players. The team's roster consist of Bwipo, Hansama, Bjergsen, and Corejj. • T1 releasing 8 players and 2 staffs this year • TL releasing their future player (Tactical) • FPX releasing their franchise player (Doinb) • Showmaker and Canyon enters free agency • Uzi unretire and rumored to make a super team with IG teaming up with Rookie and TheShy • Chovy and Deft try to leave HLE after their miracle run from Regional qualifiers to Worlds • This year is the most import the LCS got in history. (And the most talented)

[@Synasea]

I had no idea all this happened, would you mind explaining most of the points? I'm really interested lol

[@justine8469]

@@Synasea Please list those one you're interested in, if you may.

[@nihallo]

where do you get updates for the roster change?

[@justine8469]

@@nihallo Different channels in KZbin, Caedrel clips, and Facebook (LoL News is the name of that page or group).

[@iangoodstein4076]

@@justine8469 • Carlos showing their org's true color • Rekkless moving to EU Masters • Uzi unretire and rumored to make a super team with IG teaming up with Rookie and TheShy

[@WingsOfSera]

Ahh yes, Leena’s boyfriend vs ex-boyfriend

[@tmmnago2722]

They should make an anime out of all this drama.

[@jessejohn7406]

Lmaooo

[@gouki2005]

Probably Reginald has a big dong. Now you know Lena is Stretched.... So. Doublelift cant fill that gap.....

[@chinesesparrows]

it could be clash of the smol d energy

[@andrewkim7518]

@@gouki2005 nah no way he got way too much small pp energy LOL. thats why he bully everyone its the only way he gets to feel big

[@uniquabcde]

During the OTV interview podcast w/ Scarra. Scarra even said he didn't like andy and he's not TSM, I am kinda leaning towards DL on this one. However, i am also getting the vibe something is not being mentioned that is kinda big.

[@TachibanaTengoku]

I'm sure it doesn't help that they both dated the same girl lol

[@toxicbergers]

theres a ton of factors and hell i dont care for either parties but if history shows anything its that regi was always a piece of shit and DL has always had a massive ego, the leena part of it is always a factor but im guessing that in this case its DL being salty and just being fed up with regi who actually abuses players and teams from the old clips not even saying them as direct abuse but u can just tell he has 0 regards in a conversation and is just an arrogant douche that wants everyone to fall in line "his way" despite it being probably wrong

[@krisrolph1058]

@@toxicbergers 100% agree, well said

[@jajajinks1569]

​@@toxicbergers Yeah I think so too. DL probably isn't doing this out of the kindness of his heart, but it's probably true that Regi's a piece of shit. That's been the talk of the community since the earlier days of the League community, and there's a lot of snippets here and there that back it up.

[@cryingwolf4955]

I mean, when you offer Faker 40m to play and he says no, theres a def issue with your org at the top.

[@ferrerorocher4292]

TSM need to get their shit together, especially Reginald. If he just stops being a back seat andy, maybe their players will perform better and stay on the team longer. Whether you believe or disagree with Doublelift's allegations if we look at TSM's track record it's evident that most talented/promising players that join the team almost always underperform.

[@sytherwusky]

This is like 2019 Griffin all over again

[@nagneht]

heh! back seat Andy… nice

[@CosmicCricket]

anyone remember tsm yellowstar lmao

[@richardbusby9174]

To be honest I think he's a problem...... Going all the way back to when he quit and trolled his own team in the early LCS he's always had a bullying demeanor at the least.

[@baitingmaster5622]

I mean its fcking annoying having a kid teaching you what to do....

[@Eisenthorn4179]

I saw that vid where Andy was bullying Dyrus while playing League and then gets angry at Dyrus cause he told him to shut up. imo, Andy is shady af and idk why Dyrus is defending him

[@michael22000]

Someone is moving his pieces from behind. Most of the people who defended Regi didn't even use twitter in a long time. (Just a clue to the first statement) Maybe I'm just looking into it too much 😂

[@TheSleyar]

Isn’t dyrus a tsm streamer?

[@napiernygma8075]

@steel flux back then regi was just a player and dyrus was the best player on the team so back then it was different nobody could touch dyrus his voice was listened too so he is right comparing back then to now is different flaming player when you are a player as well is kind of fine because you can flame back kind of like mj on the balls but when you are the fuking boss and flame a player that you hired into your organization then it is a problem

[@steph4356]

Dyrus abused his girlfriend, make this information ur own conclusion.

[@tonywang2815]

cuz he's literally getting paid by andy and probs doesn't wanna go jobless

[@goldwinguiang2221]

We might not know the whole facts regarding this issue but I think former players' response to their time on TSM speaks a ton about the environment within the team (Santorin, Svenskeren, Zven, Akaadian, etc.). Be it true or not, no corporation in any industry should be allowed to foster this kind of environment for their employees. For E-sports to be truly considered an established industry, they should be held to the same standards as other big companies in other industries. Just my 2 cents.

[@vacvacd43]

Too be fair, incidents like this happen in normal sport aswell. Just look at MJ and Kobe, both were increadibly toxic towards fellow players.

[@zacktheslasher3794]

@@vacvacd43 i feel there is a difference between a coworker and your boss/company's owner. One has much more power over you than the other

[@Londronable]

I mean, this has to improve but I don't see how you can think this happens in every industry. Music, dance, sports, any type of entertainment.

[@Xynth25]

Imagine an industry full of socially awkward nerds given sudden and meteoric success and financial gains being full of immaturity, unprofessionalism, and ego. Truly I am shocked, I tell you.

[@smee7q470]

Lmaoooo, well fucking said 👏👏

[@hardieharrharr]

Bravo sir. Nail on the head 😂

[@HexYan]

The sport will never be as big as it should be until that is fixed. Too many kids with big egos. I love eSports and i believe it will be fixed, however changes are needed.

[@corbinbleu7969]

@@HexYan I believe it is because of the lack of youth leagues. People who play traditional sports learn to work with teammates as young as 6 years old, then have years of experience working with others before they get to big stages. Whereas these esports dudes join a team for the first time at 15-17. They have been grinding alone for years, and have no idea how to work with others in a high stress environment.

[@caiquenakandakare6046]

why you guys make it seems sports dont have people with bigger egos? LOL

[@eajayy8969]

I think double lift shouldn’t be the one to start this. His ego is just as bad, but his criticism still holds some credit. Ofc when he used to bully his teammates he was no different, but as he progressed it happened less. Regi on the other hand is outta pocket. He’s a back seat gamer with league knowledge from season 5, he should just shut up and be the ceo rather than trying to throw shade at his coaches. Dyrus clip still makes me cringe so bad. I find it hard to believe that beyond the camera regi is not like that.

[@V1zang]

even Season 5 is pushing it. He peaked at season 2 and never became relevant after that except that he owned the biggest team at the time.

[@ferrerorocher4292]

@@V1zang Regi commenting on his team's gameplay is pretty much just like twitch chat. Bunch of low elo players flaming pro players, like yes I should listen to you who can't even get out of low elo.

[@serialbets]

Doublelift has for sure been a bully.. the difference is, he was a player and he has been kicked from teams (CLG). Regi is an owner and in a position of power and using that with zero consequences. Abusive player = kicked .. Abusive boss = ???

[@fth2780]

Ofc DL has to start this, he's one of those who have power in voicing out

[@LordTenma]

@@serialbets exactly thank you! It's a huge difference if a team mate or your CEO abuses you because you have a lot of options to go about it with a teammate

[@fatsunny1035]

The fact that Reginald has made up/is friends with some of the old players doesnt make the abuse go away

[@prashantgrg]

Aren't u DL fans funny. At first you guys were concerned about how Regi treated the old players and now that those players are coming out in support of Regi saying that it wasn't abuse... all of sudden you guys don't care about what those players have to say? This whole drama is just childish and it started because DL's ego couldn't handle the fact that TSM don't want him for LCS next year. I promise you that DL doesn't care about how Regi treated other players but he cares now that he wants to make Regi look like a bad person. DL himself is a well known toxic teammate to many so its funny DL is the one starting a drama like this.

[@joseph_koo]

@@prashantgrg too long; didn't read.

[@snuzzle275]

@@prashantgrg so him being toxic changes something about regi being a toxic person? I'd rather have a toxic teammate than a toxic CEO that doesnt know shit about the game anymore...

[@edwardlomeli5657]

@@prashantgrg you do know people who get abused badly tend to say they aren’t. Beaten wife syndrome. People get use to it and accustomed to it as well as start believing it was their fault or they deserved it due to their abusers treatment of them.

[@edwardlomeli5657]

@@snuzzle275 there’s different types of toxicity as well as different levels of it. DL was definitely toxic as fuck but what I’ve seen from Reginald is a lot of gaslighting and mental abuse. Overall I agree with you about the toxic teammate or toxic ceo thing. Having a toxic ceo means there’s always a toxic environment throughout the organization. A toxic player can be isolated from other parts of the organization

[@tmmnago2722]

Leena definitely has a type for guys with BIG egos...

[@walldell210]

She likes being dominated

[@simply1087]

big pockets*

[@Skullnezz]

@@simply1087 She has enough money of her own to support her for life lmao

[@Fluskar]

@@simply1087 i think she has enough money for herself

[@KINGJAGESVENSKTHE3RD]

@@Skullnezz yh bcus of being together with both regi and DL lol

[@actuallyagave1970]

Dyrus was mentally and emotionally abusive to his ex to it makes sense why he would defend regi. Also the amount of people just learning now about regi is funny, dude has always been a bad person.

[@Leowulfs]

Wait Dyrus did what?? 🤨

[@DKTrue]

That was my thought throughout the video. Regi being very confrontational is nothing new.

[@KingJerbear]

Where is your evidence of this? Spouting off random bullshit

[@Alex-id1by]

@@KingJerbear Dyrus literally admitted he did in a tweet.

[@casperryborg4869]

Now this is interesting! Can you link your source? It would be quite interesting to see what Dyrus did to become a abuser towards women.

[@Cybergig00]

Regi is typical Middle management. Doesn't matter what job you work..we all know this type of person.

[@Jeff_Saber]

except he's right at the top of it all, and it makes it even worse

[@cado7542]

I like how its a video of dyrus getting abused hard, followed with a tweet of dyrus saying 'no one has been abused'. It's so suspect that all former tsm players tweeted similar nice things about regi at similar times.

[@MarthisEh]

And if they tweeted supporting DL instead then it would be okay? Lol they're responding because they're getting bugged by fans about an 8 yr old video...that was addressed and resolved yrs ago and ppl are bringing it up like it's something new. I'd be annoyed as hell if I responded and you guys say stuff like "you need therapy" or "how much did you get paid to say that"

[@djyoshdepaz]

Suspect??? 👀

[@WorldinJeopardy]

This actually clears so much up. I wasn't sure what to think after Doublelift just retired even though TSM signed Swordart, but this puts it all into perspective and I feel bad for both Swordart and Doublelift. There had been rumors that he retired because he only wanted to play with a top-tier Support, but him specifically saying he wanted an English-speaking support makes more sense. I was so confused why Doublelift went back to TSM when he had just been thrown out like trash before. My opinion of TSM probably will never go up till Regi retires from having any say in the LoL space.

[@Vendrix86]

"There had been rumors that he retired because he didn't want to play with a top tier Support" re-read that and tell me how that makes sense. What pro adc would not want this? Just need to use logic man.

[@WorldinJeopardy]

@@Vendrix86 xD Sorry, it was a typo man, obviously lol. But there, I fixed it. Thank you for pointing that out.

[@kaidestinyz]

Been watching competitive league for a long time. I totally agree with Doublelift on this. Most people dislike Doublelift has a wrong impression of him. While he enjoy trash-talking, he respects the players. He does not trashtalk after the match is done. That's not who he is. He only does it before matches when the match is undecided because it hypes up the matches. Regi on the other hand is a very competitive retired player, while he was good during his time playing, the standard of play has gone far beyond his reach but his huge ego still makes him believes that he would still be one of the best players if he was still playing. This is an important point because whenever his team lost/made a mistake, he firmly believes the team messed up and that HE would have done better. It's because of this, he comes down hard on the players because he had imagined that such a mistake wouldn't be made by him, this creates some sort of resentment towards the players. Like why am I paying you if I could have played this better than you? This makes him a very toxic backseat Andy. This means that if you made a "mistake" and Regi comes to you and puts the blame on you, the best thing to do is do nothing and agree with him. Because he's going to tell you how he would have done better and that it was your fault. You will never win an argument with Regi, because of his ego and his belief that he would have played that better, also because he is your BOSS. Regi is a bully. Make no mistake about that. This is why Doublelift said that the best thing to do in TSM is not get involved with Andy. Nothing good ever comes out from trying to make a constructive criticism about the play with Regi because that's not what Regi wants. Regi wants you to admit that you were wrong and better yet, stroke his ego and tell him that he is right.

[@camelotsr54]

Covering FGC stuff would be sick too for content it’s a lot of good smash storylines going on too that would be epic to see on the channel :)

[@Its-DeiTy]

Smash is NOT part of the FGC. Two different communities

[@astralsn0w756]

@@Its-DeiTy That's arguable. At the very least, they have a large amount of overlap

[@Its-DeiTy]

@@astralsn0w756 No, they do not. The FGC doesn't rate the smash community nor do we think of the smash community when we speak of the FGC. It's two entirely different communities with their own pros and casters and celebrities. They are not the same and have zero overlap. The only thing you could say they have in common is "Well, they both play video games"

[@astralsn0w756]

@@Its-DeiTy bruh hahaha why all the animosity? All of the smash games are fighting games. I know that some people in the FGC don't respect Smash as much but you can't say they're completely unrelated. I mean, smash has been featured at EVO numerous times. Also, since when do you speak for the entire FGC?

[@jyrusrubillar9343]

Imagine thescore shorts vid if Sparg0 won Mainstage

[@Snulge]

Bruh i'm with DL, I went from a TSM fan to an Anti-TSM fan a long time ago. This just makes it so much sweeter. Reginald sucks, i feel bad for anyone who plays on that team. Saw this way back with Dirus being abused by him almost 10 years ago. EDIT: Oh shit they covered it.

[@evandale2197]

Why is it that every offseason after worlds there is drama on tsm

[@calebmckoy8937]

TRUUUUUE

[@haoye2413]

No news is bad news. They are staying relevant thru drama

[@steadyboost7]

As a VERY casual League fan (haven't seriously watched since Imaqtpie was playing LCS), the constant variable here seems to be Regi.

[@StoneDeceiver]

because tsm is a shit hole

[@riftwalk2546]

idk man if Regi comes at me like how he came to Dyrus I wouldve punch him

[@FreedomIII]

Same here. At the very least, I'd have told him to stop being an asshole and shut the door (though I don't know what his loving situation was at the time).

[@rdvanbilgic341]

@@FreedomIII It wasn't possible for Dyrus to 'shut the door' literally. Back then they were all living inside a gaming house and all their setups were placed in one single room. They basically had to endure the negativity

[@pako191]

This is nothing new I still remember those times when Reginald still played and he was so toxic towards the team even though he was the worst. I never saw a change in his attitude tbh

[@jamschow6047]

No wonder why NA is dying, it's not because of the players, but it's because of toxicity within the orgs.

[@cheetahofthewind13]

The bundlight clg drama that happened during lcs playoffs this year could tell you that

[@KjetilVago]

Following mostly CS:GO, never had a good impression of Reginald considering the Seangares open letter and the Astralis guys' history.

[@hevytimes]

Easiest way to take this is Bjergsen is coming back and NOT with TSM. This man was/is a co-owner and former coach. That is speaking volumes to me in this.

[@doobee8823]

Bjergsen said he wanted to play with a certain player. TSM couldn't get Core, so Bjergsen went to TL.

[@Deagers]

@@doobee8823 Oh I'm sure they could've. Theres probably a reason JJ didn't wanna go to TSM.

[@doobee8823]

@@Deagers What? There is a reason why Core didn't go to TSM and it has nothing to do with TSM and everything to do with Liquid. TSM would have offered a blank check to steve.

[@steph4356]

Im sorry but if someone quit their co owner position, shit behind the curtain must be insane. That speaks volumes of TSM as an org.

[@doooot2267]

They're both egotistic but atleast Doublelift looks like a normal human

[@poop7277]

XD

[@catzor4795]

True. Regi should use some of his money to fix his face.

[@cryingwolf4955]

@@catzor4795 He should use his money to buy a coaching session LOL

[@Nattbad]

Wasn't Regi pretty well known to be toxic back in his days a player? It's like a decade ago but vaguely remember both Regi and Chaox to be problematic on TSM.

[@StimPakTskAwwYea]

The biggest difference between DoubleLift and Reginald is that DL is self aware of his huge ego and stubbornness. He's acknowledged multiple times that he is hard to work with and has worked on changing himself to be more amicable with teammates. He still is arrogant and trash talks a shitload, but is self aware. Reginald on the other hand is completely oblivious to his flaws and nothing is worse than someone who is blind to their own issues while verbally attacking others for the same things... Teapot calling the kettle black.

[@Pearly31034]

Here's some popcorn 🍿🍿🍿 To not get hungry while watching this pit fire 🔥

[@rabgix8805]

Came back to this video after riot announced today they’re investigating Regi. About time

[@LudiMoon_]

How does this channel get faster and faster when it comes to this stuff

[@aracuscesar]

i had enough of doublelifts diva drama every single season

[@sketch3744]

While that's an entirely fair position to take, there's far too much evidence that backs up DL's claims to ignore. He's made people cry on camera... You can't refute evidence that damming.

[@outcast491]

gotta be one of the worst places to be at atm, not DL or Regi but being Leena sitting between the two of them...

[@Diijkstra]

reminds me of the good old CLG DL vs TSM Regi banters/trashtalk. remember that trash bin meme banter? lmao Love the video!

[@abirmahmud2242]

damn if only NA put the same amount of effort on creating infrastructures and helping players improve their gameplay as they do when cooking up drama, they'd make it out of groups

[@Hot_LeafJuice]

If anyone is in disbelief that Reginald treats his players like ass, look into the danish CSGO roster he fucked over (who eventually became 4 time major winners). Big yikes, not surprising at all.

[@genericytaccount953]

The score still not linking original video they got footage from. Have we not learned our lessons from Thorin? I like your content but need links to watch whole videos to get context of footage bring used.

[@ramronquillo8756]

Doublelift and Regi are the reasons I didn't enjoy watch NA LCS too much. But I've just disliked Regi more.

[@jeremylenjau7635]

One of main reason why i dislike TSM. I love their apex, r5 roster, but not this fugly guy who abused his power to constantly being rude to others.

[@whosZazzy]

From the outside looking in both parties have huge egos and have not interest in defending or helping anyone but themselves and their interests.

[@Aymhamuderphackir]

I was just watching for the new TSM roster and this suddenly came up.

[@sanjeevmishra300594]

I was waiting was this video.. didn't know where all this started

[@T3hS14ppy]

I've played and watched League of Legends since Xin Zhao was a new character so I have a bit of a background. TSM has always been a favorite for NA. Hard to compare them to a sports team on how loved they are. When you watched TSM in LCS, that twitch chat was spamming TSM for sure. They had world class players. Bjerg is literally one of the best players, just like doublelift said, a perfect player and a perfect person. And regi said, "we got out drafted..." to compare it, thats like having golden era Michael Jordan on your basketball team, and saying your team is bad. Now, I dont know about you guys, but having the best player, still losing, and no one really batting an eye, there has to be something behind the scenes. Or in this case, someone. Only a coach with absolutely horrible coaching skills can not only make your team lose every year and depressed at the same time. You always heard regi was a person not very well liked but it took a very known person in the league community to bring light to the situation. I dont envy doublelift for calling out regi, but I do respect the hell of this man to cast the first stone at this giant gapping asshole that is the owner of TSM.

[@AbirZenith]

I think it was fairly disgusting how people defended Regi on this by simply saying 'Oh he is just passionate and wants to win' - as an owner you should NEVER ever intervene like this and treat people like this.

[@Nikotastik]

I don’t doubt Doublelift’s statement, but sadly, I think this toxic environment is normal in eSports. The other players don’t realize how bad it was because every team was like that.

[@FNCMontragor]

Well no reason that it stays like that tho

[@danielmontesdeoca7027]

I dont think is that bad in any other team of the west, sure the players are under a lot of pressure but even I cant imagine Ocelote, the owner I hate the most and the one that is more vocal is social media, doing the same shit as Reginald has done and still do.

[@Gonnereccon]

Like everyone here I want to share my opinion, though I do notice Reginald it's a very bossy and harsh owner, DL it's know in the LoL scene as a trash talker and egocentristic player that it's known to give away games due to his massive "overconfidence" which at times seems like he is trolling by trying to 1vs1 an assassion or 1vs5 the enemy team. DL does have a couple points in his favor but still he did make a hard pass on staying in the team even if SwordArt was not inside the team.Just like a company, if you decide to abandon the company right before a big negotiation since you're not sure if it will succeed then the director or boss has the right to deny your entry back when everything about the negotiation goes right.

[@Ryuno_Ace]

Yep, at the end of the day its all a risk. Whether you're willing to take it or not.

[@Gonnereccon]

@@Ryuno_Ace Yup and even one of the exmanagers of the team did stated in Reddit that DL is lying about certain statements given about the deal so he has been exposed.

[@chimosgameclub9765]

Didn't Akaadian allude to that he got PTSD from regi? And svenskeren said I did not wanna play gragas due to regi?

[@alexmok2]

Did I miss somewhere that he's no longer a streamer for TSM?

[@ChemiiOneLegacy]

The thing is sometimes you just have people that don't get on. In the case of Peter & Andy, I think they both are "Alpha" in their own way and conflict always comes out of that. There is no rule to say that team mates have to be friends but it certainly helps, just like there isn't any rule to say owners, managers or whatever have to like their players. It's important though that the organisation recognize the players are the most important thing, not the staff or the owners - players win championships. Sounds like Andy can't get out of his own way and the fact he slammed Bjergsen during the season, during the finals speaks volumes on that point. The only person talking about the players should be the coach and the owner shouldn't be saying a fucking thing publicly during the middle of games or even at all during the regular season.

[@michaeldaguro6229]

This is just fuel for Dblift to pop off with Olleh

[@puthandlehere]

Not sure, but beyond all the accusations of non-commitment and verbal abuse, it all boils down to guys who let their egos run their brains and air their dirty laundry whenever they feel like it. Reginald has been known for his toxic backseat gaming tendencies, and Doublelift is known for burning out his good graces with other people. I won't be surprised if they decided to bury the hatchet after a few years. Unless someone other than Woodbuck airs his shit with Regi, this controversy is over, for now.

[@mareksicinski449]

15:05 this is arguably a misrepresentation, if it takes away or downplays it does ppl share their own honest feelings, if it doesn't change anything about what he's saying then it doesn't, if it does change soemthing it does. The idea that it could contradict it true or not and spinning it that way is wrong, ppl are supposed to come to the right conclusions without other views or added information

[@notlengthy]

just a heads up to all the 13 year olds watching this stuff, just because you think you aren't/weren't being abused, doesn't mean it's true. a huge percentage of victims of abuse can't admit to themselves or realize they were abused, this stuff happens all the time sadly. stockholm syndrome is a real thing

[@rykeerodriguez9559]

Imagine how many people get left in tears by their bosses for a lot less money in a lot less time with much less personal baggage attached.

[@tftflik450]

Ozzyman is into esports now?

[@AmbienceOfficial]

Anyone doubting what DL is saying here just doesn't like him, lol. To be fair, I don't either, but there's literal proof of Regi's abusive behavior on-camera, who the hell knows what goes on in the TSM house if he does these things in public in front of a camera.

[@Altraice]

Until Andy gets his hands out of the team, TSM will never do more than win the LCS. It’s just like pro sports teams. It does not matter how good your players and training staff are, if your management sucks you will never be successful.

[@saintlotus93]

Go watch the clips of Regi when he was a player. He never changed from his attitude or as a person from back then.

[@altiernation5057]

Worst possible outcome, Regi or the tsm as an org sues doublelift

[@sketch3744]

Nah not possible. There's literal video footage of him abusing Chaox, Xspecial, Wildturtle and even stockholm syndrome sufferer Dyrus himself. Impossible to sue for defamation when there's evidence to back up the claims. Pretty sure Loco doco even talked about it when he was there but everyone ignored and forgot it very quickly because Loco didn't have huge status in the scene. Even people that never had anything to do with TSM like Scarra, Hotshot and saintvicious have talked about what a bag of shit Regi is.

[@altiernation5057]

@@sketch3744 I think it's possible to file a lawsuit; from the tsm org., And another from regi. Tsm's reputation as an org took a blow from DL's atatement, their future prospects are at risk. They can file a slander case if they have evidence to prove slanderous remarks that damage the orgs reputation. Same thing with regi. Winning the case is another matter though

[@sketch3744]

@@altiernation5057 You can't sue someone for slander if it's true though. That's what I'm trying to say. It doesn't matter if it damages their business if it's true, which it irrefutabley is as there is video footage...

[@Hyphu]

So what I'm gathering in my opinion, clearly hypothetical, Is during the phase where Leena and DL started talking was where everything was about to go downhill. DL wanted to be closer to leena so he came back to TSM, Regi probably had a little jealousy but tried to brush it off. DL finds out Bjergsen is going to retire and probably heard Leena will leave the company too so he decides if the swordart deal doesn't go through its not worth his time to play anymore(for the team at least). Regi's wording/saying of the deal not going through doesn't come out right(the way he speaks to you is very upfront and aggressive tone) and Doublelift just says fuck it imma run it down to the exit of tsm since Leena is also leaving and most of his best co-players/workers/friends also left. Mostly probably because he wants leena to cut ties from the organization. Regi probably also during all that time probably wanted to cut ties with DL too because of Leena. In the end theres no winners just bad looks all around.

[@lukhw1n657]

When you think of it, it's actually funny and believable that Doublelift's girlfriend is the ex-gf to Reginald (Andy). Mah boy DL not only exposed his toxic ass, but stole his girl like Bully Maguire stealing Gwen from Eddie in Spider-man 3.

[@sself2699]

us regular ass working people can't/shouldn't talk shit about their former employers damn dude is really living the dream

[@KingJerbear]

I've supported TSM for years, initially because of the kooky cast of Oddone/Dyrus/etc., but more recently just because Bjergsen was such an easy guy to get behind. As DL mentioned, you see Regi's kinda toxic behavior, but you almost ignore it... because that's how his personality is. When it's laid all out there though, and you think of him making these young dudes cry behind closed doors, subtweeting my man Bjergsen, and just being purely disrespectful (and frankly childish)... I just can't support this team anymore. I'm so happy Bjergsen is out of there and I genuinely hope he finally gets the real success he was chasing all those years. I hope Spica is able to get out soon as well, another promising young player with a great attitude that I would love to see succeed. I guess I'm a TL fan now

[@StoneDeceiver]

wow imagine 'supporting tsm for years' when u know its a shit hole and the only reason is because of bjergsen.. just support bjerg -.-

[@MrRed424]

Tsm was weird as fuck until bjergsen came not gonna lie. Those kids didn’t know how to put there clothes away and fucking cook something in the microwave. It was weird

[@changyang4355]

And this is the difference between NA VS the World. A selfish player with a huge ego vs the Owner who gave him everything.

[@dizels52]

I've been a fan of tsm from beginning,and this was the only problem for tsm, especially when Hauntzer svenskeren bjerg double frost,that team was so focus on destroying everyone that regenald didn't matter

[@pinkhairblackman8141]

for those that didnt know, andy got his nickname reginald because he was always raging

[@1337awesomeness]

Hell yeah now that everyone with a genuine opinion and a functioning brain have weighed in and put their sources to the test, thescore can make a video on it. Just wish it was colon this time.

[@BakuCarl]

Poor dyrus. He doesnt have a healthy view on whats acceptable in relating to people. I feel for the guy as he is going through a hard time. Dyrus... Andy dinh was abusive. Its not ok for him to treat you like that in the old stream clip. I wish you the best man. Hopefully someone can send this to him.

[@805-SB]

Bjerg left. That says a lot. One of the best and most influential NA Players doesn't see potential in TSM getting to Worlds. GGz

[@mareksicinski449]

12:10 different senses of that, different ppl take different things from generally toxic environments

[@stevej6272]

finally... i always hated TSM ONLY because of regi.

[@warmustbelikeart]

how are you supposed to play on a competitive team with a teammate that you can't communicate with anyways? even if palette is very good wouldn't want to play with someone i couldn't communicate with either i definitely understand that from doublelift

[@hadyen95]

Don't forget regi was never really a good player and in the end of his player career tried to force himself into his team's roster in multiple different positions and failing horribly before retiring from play.

[@dylanharrison6158]

artwork is class

[@EDALLSANT]

I just feel bad about that palette guy lol

[@daijoubupng]

Blue Card Andy has always have that big ego since his pro play. you can see see his videos still on youtube and It's infuriating to watch,like he knows more that his teammates/players and is so salty when losing.

[@sketch3744]

Hahahaha "blue card andy". Shit that brings back some memories xD

[@raufbold6622]

I am a huge TSM Fan since S3 (yeah im not gonna pretend i did watch league before on a regular basis). But seeing the Organisation going down because of the whole Ego thing is really making me sad. I became a Fan mostly because of the Bjergerking, the lazy Sir Die a Lot and the only forward flashing Turtle in the bot lane. Reginald maybe is understanding business very well if you see what he has built out of five douches playing a game for kids. But honestly this whole ego thing is taking way too much potential out of the league team. Him thinking that he understands League at the highest level honestly is just a joke. I am still a fan, always will be but I am also very exited for the new TL Roster. Finally a Reason to watch LCS again. Regis lack of self reflection is disgusting. (Englisch is my fourth language so you can keep the mistakes ;))

[@eajae26]

I don't wanna put all the hate on Reginald here. But that face, that puchable face plus his way of arguing and talking to people man. Just the perfect combination to be hated or at least disliked.

[@abdelaouiz2120]

The people that got abused are probably still playing right now and can't come out because If they did they could risk their e-sport careers

[@TSkillzX]

This beef is better than any league content I've consumed this year arcane included

[@idilio]

eh

[@BlueGatorade0]

finished the entire video and still can't make sense of this shit show lmao

[@Number9Robotic]

if you actually did finish the video you'd watch the part where he explains that it's because it's not done yet lol

[@danielmontesdeoca7027]

Two big ego's collide, one is a drama queen the other a degenerate bully who belives himself to be above all other players. Pick your horse and enjoy the race.

[@missdifficulty905]

Just saying, the old members of tsm(some haven't tweeted in years) magically tweeted within several hours of each other.... hmmm not paid at all.....

[@lightofshoal]

Pls make one of the small documentaries of alarm he was so great and taken way to young

[@seiko3565]

I don’t like the way you worded that man “Dyrus lost his cool” like what? Bad choice of words man, you’re making it seem like Dyrus was the bad guy here

[@JayForsure]

Really? I don't view that phrase in a negative way towards Dyrus. Good guys always lose their cool, like if they stand up towards a bully.

[@toad7395]

Not really, good guys always lose their cool its up to you if you take it like he's the bad guy, even if you're a good person you should never lose your cool and always go about it in a calm way ;v

[@kensword73]

Definitely not. Because dyrus is so chill, saying that even “Dyrus lost his cool” is definitely accurate and points regi to be the bad person.

[@Its-DeiTy]

This comment is :REEE

[@FreedomIII]

@@JayForsure "Pushed over the edge" would probably be a more accurate way to describe it. Regi literally bullied him until he couldn't absorb the abuse anymore.

[@MrYsosad]

so much effort for a west team that cant even get to quarter finals in worlds

[@phamlong4210]

They did dummy

[@Weeruptor]

I bet the teacher way of doing this is the best both apologise and both get detention

[@Swanmaster123]

They should honestly just have a fistfight. Squash the beef there and then.

[@knara6]

Facts

[@roseoftheday582]

I can’t stand Andy/Regi but Peter has no place to make accusations like that when he acts exactly the same way. Peter has always been a diva. He thinks he’s untouchable and treats people that don’t benefit him in some way in his life like shit. Every since he did what he did to Aphromoo, I have zero respect or sympathy for Peter. Literally none.

[@MusicHound18]

Regi looks happy to get the attention of flaming his players. Let’s all be honest tho. Regi was never good at league of legends and never had the hands to even be a mid tier mid player outside of season 2 league when lck and lpl were not included

[@guano64]

I imagined this so great with Bjergsen doublethink and swordart. Damn

[@tomrichardon4275]

You should have doublethought before writing doublethink

[@guano64]

@@tomrichardon4275 oh you did not …

[@SolViper]

Come on Danny pls make a video about EDG

[@DannyBurke]

About them winning Worlds? We did!

[@tgo007]

Those clips of Regi are old af. I give young 18 to early 20 year olds a lot of slack on their behavior because 99% of us have acted poorly and made mistakes. If there was more evidence or people speaking out with more recent evidence, it would be more damning.

[@lolmouf]

this is why bullying should've never gone away. These nerds having ego's are ridiculous.

[@casperryborg4869]

So you're saying that a person who is considered intelligent within one or multiple areas, shouldn't or can't have a ego? I do not see the logic in this statement, no matter ones intellect and social skills (or lack thereof), you can still think highly of yourself.

[@lolmouf]

@@casperryborg4869 nope, know your place dork. make my iphone

[@RoboShaoran]

Doublelift has since replied to the reddit post days before this video was posted.

[@jasonbo4829]

Doublelift and regi has the biggest ego in league esports

[@troyuchida3146]

Doesn't DL do this to every team he leaves? Who remembers when DL left CLG and burned every single bridge / entire org to the ground? When he left TL? Aphro even stated he brings people down...

[@iBankai1995]

Yes and no? I don't know either, that's why the question mark. The thing about CLG is that DL might be right. Without DL, CLG went downhill from there after the Stixxay Era. CLG atleast has some grudge to show that's what made them strong during the g2 vacay and the legendary CLG msi run. But CLG now is just sad. TL, same thing. There has also to be something more than that though and TL benching Alphari out of nowhere was also surprising so there had to be also something going on in TL that DL didn't agree with at all, that he went back to TSM. Okay Leena poaching aside, TSM and TL seem to not have a clean sheet at all but we will see.

[@crownjax]

Bro i know the incidents dont get me wrong but i seriously never ever liked Reginald, im not aside of DL but seriously after the shit with Dyrus i was like NO, Regi your done in my world...