The TSM Regi Drama Just Got Worse

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@janussia3063
@janussia3063 2 жыл бұрын
Riot, Reginald has to be banned. Its no longer just the abuse, the wage theft shouldn't be downplayed.
@thyCarrot
@thyCarrot 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, in a job where you either have a career where you either have one or you dont, stealing wages is just absurd. Especially with how much money they make.
@marksern
@marksern 2 жыл бұрын
but that's not a punishment that's just gonna make his org better, that's clearly a reward.
@janussia3063
@janussia3063 2 жыл бұрын
@@marksern dont hate on the org, the staff and players dont deserve the shade for having an indecent human for a CEO. They're just workers and employees too.
@marksern
@marksern 2 жыл бұрын
@@janussia3063 I don't know were in my comment I hated on the org, I'm saying Reginald is having a negative effect on the org. If you want to defend that piece of shit and say the org is doing fine under him then that's up to you, certainly not the hill I would die on
@janussia3063
@janussia3063 2 жыл бұрын
@@marksern you typed it where it sounds like TSM should be the one taking the punishment, they shouldt Reginald should take the repercussions not the org. You made it sound like TSM shouldn't kick reginald out because they're gonna get better. Phrasing my guy. Not defending that scum Reginald. Just do better phrasing next time.
@AndreggvilJammer
@AndreggvilJammer 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of TSM's players, but Regi? He needs to go. Doesn't matter that he created TSM, because if he doesn't step down soon he's also going to be TSM's downfall.
@jonathanmarshall2860
@jonathanmarshall2860 2 жыл бұрын
A little too late for that. They are in a nose dive since 2017 and can't pull up. I'm just worried about the rest of TSM's teams. They are going
@utaha3661
@utaha3661 2 жыл бұрын
Well R6 tsm are on the up after winning invitation , idk the other game tho
@carlos-m37
@carlos-m37 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanmarshall2860 yeah but that’s only socially soon their gonna start losing more business partners and are gonna go into debt so their plays gotta go into other orgs and spilt so we’re not gonna see the same teams again.
@anxietynova4580
@anxietynova4580 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like if he steps down and they revamp their current work ethics to make it less toxic the players might actually do better because they wouldnt be so scared all the time and they might actually perform
@Shiftry87
@Shiftry87 2 жыл бұрын
@@utaha3661 TSM´s league team failed to make it into the playoff series this split. Not the playoff for worlds the playoff for NA LCS that has never ever happened before. I could be wrong here but i am pretty sure that TSM have the most apperances in NA playoff finals then any other NA team and this year they dident even make it into the playoff.
@adalla-art
@adalla-art 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why TSM fans try to defend him, I've never met a TSM fan who actually likes Reginald, anytime I've ever considered myself a "fan" of TSM was when I liked specific team rosters they had and according to these allegations against Reginald he's clearly a cancer to the org
@Number9Robotic
@Number9Robotic 2 жыл бұрын
> I don't know why TSM fans try to defend him, I've never met a TSM fan who actually likes Reginald ...so are TSM fans defending him or not???
@adalla-art
@adalla-art 2 жыл бұрын
@@Number9Robotic disliking someone doesn't mean you can't defend them, I've seen people try and justify the law suit letter by saying he did technically breach the contract as if it wasn't just an underhanded attempt to get Doublelift to stop talking
@Number9Robotic
@Number9Robotic 2 жыл бұрын
@@adalla-art ah, fair enough
@seangolightly9478
@seangolightly9478 2 жыл бұрын
man i think everyone was like a fan more of dyrus or bjerg
@moggu1334
@moggu1334 2 жыл бұрын
More like RegiBald
@evhockey1242
@evhockey1242 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a TSM fan since 2012, but I’ve never been happy with Andy/Reginald because even in their TSM house times it was clear he bullied and verbally abused players and never even saw it as that; rather he thought they were disrespecting him for letting him know he was being a complete jerk. I hope this investigation outs him from the esports community. We don’t need someone like him in esports.
@BEARxFPS
@BEARxFPS 2 жыл бұрын
when he made dyrus rage, you know he went too far.
@1nterzept661
@1nterzept661 2 жыл бұрын
Idk but TSM conducting their own investigation seems sus to me. I feel like they're just gonna try to sweep the issue under the rug to save face.
@KTSamurai1
@KTSamurai1 2 жыл бұрын
i have investigated myself and found that i am innocent and also quite attractive your honor
@croco3671
@croco3671 2 жыл бұрын
Like when the CIA found themselves innocent of participating in the drug trade
@ASTRWRLDD
@ASTRWRLDD 2 жыл бұрын
Any company that's conducting an investigation on an issue that's within that company-especially against its founder and CEO-is always going to be sus. Why companies even bother or having the audacity to do these internal investigations is wild to me.
@croco3671
@croco3671 2 жыл бұрын
@@ASTRWRLDD to try and control the narrative
@deadmanwalking7953
@deadmanwalking7953 2 жыл бұрын
TSM investigates itself, finds it did nothing wrong.
@SheepyPanda95
@SheepyPanda95 2 жыл бұрын
I swear Regi had like one of the most punchable face in League, with an attitude to match.
@Aceinine
@Aceinine 2 жыл бұрын
Im honestly surprised that no one has punched him yet
@MelonWaterMelon777
@MelonWaterMelon777 2 жыл бұрын
@@geoffreydi5377 Don't go after people's look bro. They can't change that. His personality and attitude on the other hand, that is something he can and should change. Shit on that
@golasticus
@golasticus 2 жыл бұрын
From an outsider looking in, I look at Regi and immediately think "I can't trust that guy."
@Shr00ms30
@Shr00ms30 2 жыл бұрын
@@MelonWaterMelon777 He aint wrong though
@N_May1
@N_May1 2 жыл бұрын
@@MelonWaterMelon777 i mean i want to be snarky and say korean plastic surgery can used to make the ugliest person sexy and changable.
@FDT222
@FDT222 2 жыл бұрын
I really feel bad for TSM fans and people for work them that their boss is a dunce. Edit: Couple that with wage theft.
@ThunderChanter
@ThunderChanter 2 жыл бұрын
I think if Andy had A: Apologized and not explained why he acted the way he did/does and B: Showed that he was actually taking steps to work on it, this wouldnt be a thing. But instead its a "Im sorry YOU dont get why Im like this" and just keeps throwing fuel on the fire
@leotheking1000
@leotheking1000 2 жыл бұрын
At least he apologized for my stupidity 😌
@RedesignatedClockwork
@RedesignatedClockwork 2 жыл бұрын
Even if he apologized, this kind of behavior was going on for years, even as he saw firsthand the impact he was having on people's emotional states, and having multiple people push back against him. He didn't care then, and if he cares at all now, it's only because an entire community has turned on him and his job security's at stake, instead of just individuals he held power pushing back against his abuse. "Sorry, I'll do better" doesn't fix everything; sometimes, there needs to be actual consequences beyond a bruised ego.
@bristow4784
@bristow4784 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when regi was hard stuck 1600 elo(plat) and playing in the lcs. I always tried to see the best in him but this is pathetic.
@JesseS1913
@JesseS1913 2 жыл бұрын
Plat in the lcs?
@bristow4784
@bristow4784 2 жыл бұрын
@@JesseS1913 I shit you not lol
@tg81111D
@tg81111D 2 жыл бұрын
@@JesseS1913 Sirens-type kinda shit they used to pull
@blaydee4982
@blaydee4982 2 жыл бұрын
@@JesseS1913 pretty sure thats before challenger existed. At that point diamond was the top rank
@davidm5646
@davidm5646 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen him play, bro, and he was dogshit. I think he started the "blue card TF" meme, no? It was so awful to watch, and to think he has the nerve to talk shit behind the scenes.
@nebulimes2143
@nebulimes2143 2 жыл бұрын
"TSM launches internal investigation into owner of the company who's known to be volatile and fire people for no reason" yeah I'm sure that'll turn out great
@AtlasAdvice254
@AtlasAdvice254 2 жыл бұрын
Andy is the biggest reason TSM is getting no talent to the roster. Think about it, a mega brand like TSM cant find players that want to play there? The only thing that makes sense is regardless of money people hate andy that bad
@hiimdarius
@hiimdarius 2 жыл бұрын
I mean look at the Valorant roster, Bang a super talent was benched
@str8harry
@str8harry 2 жыл бұрын
@@hiimdarius What does him being benched have to do with what that guy said? Idt Regi has anything to do with that. Bang got benched by 100T too. He's 17 and has proven nothing. Ftr tho fuck Regi. Just saying, you're reaching on that one mate.
@kevinnguyen290
@kevinnguyen290 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is so true, not even just in pro sports either like if you have a toxic shitty work environment in the real world then you will never have anybody wanting to work for you either regardless of money bc no money is worth putting up with bullshit like that on a daily basis
@Blakerzzzz4
@Blakerzzzz4 2 жыл бұрын
Regi has never understood that he isn’t the smartest person in the room. He’s an emotional risk taker. As a player, owner, and it appears as a person. He has always been the thing holding TSM back, while thinking he’s the only one trying to win. Almost like he lives in his own world.
@Crypted542
@Crypted542 2 жыл бұрын
The guy was not even that good of a player.
@Blakerzzzz4
@Blakerzzzz4 2 жыл бұрын
@@Crypted542 mechanically no but he was top 5 NA for seasons 1-3. He would win and lose games single-handedly by his shot calling. Every lane play safe and let him make plays. Back at the beginning it was much more winning than losing lol
@Crypted542
@Crypted542 2 жыл бұрын
@@Blakerzzzz4 So basically his effectiveness as a player is more or less a flip of a coin.
@Blakerzzzz4
@Blakerzzzz4 2 жыл бұрын
@@Crypted542 if the coin was guaranteed to land on one side 95% of the time lol. His strats worked beautifully at first. That is until season 3 ended. At that point it was clear he was being passed up, which is when Bjerg the God arrived.
@mojmejl3790
@mojmejl3790 2 жыл бұрын
Andy doesn't only believe and act like he's the smartest person in the room, but he has all other egoistic/egocentric characteristics too. One might simply say a spoiled brat with too much power.
@taquilo9608
@taquilo9608 2 жыл бұрын
I was a TSM fan from day 1, and a DL fan from day 2. When they dropped him after yet again performing as one of the best NA adcs ever I knew something was up. If LCS doesn't ban Regi for his entire fkin life, you can be sure they will go down with him.
@user-kj5cb1hh1d
@user-kj5cb1hh1d 2 жыл бұрын
i love you but their adc was chaox on day 2 lol
@tinytimonfire
@tinytimonfire 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-kj5cb1hh1d They where saying they are a DL fan I think with that comment.
@taquilo9608
@taquilo9608 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-kj5cb1hh1d yeah I know, just liked TSM most of the teams and DL most as a Player 😁
@paulmememan508
@paulmememan508 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy that it's 2022 and Regi is still the best Wukong cosplay NA
@sknky9774
@sknky9774 2 жыл бұрын
Omg hahaha
@purefatdude2
@purefatdude2 2 жыл бұрын
bro, you can't disrespect the famous Chinese legend Wukong like that lmao
@oceanwaves9923
@oceanwaves9923 2 жыл бұрын
the disrespecc to wukong
@kailianglf2
@kailianglf2 2 жыл бұрын
your words.
@AlwaysInvert
@AlwaysInvert 2 жыл бұрын
This brings me back…
@lancequisto1145
@lancequisto1145 2 жыл бұрын
man. I dunno why these "TSM fans" defend this guy but real TSM fans hated him to the core way back since he was still a player. I still remember that stupid ass blue card on his TF play and blaming Xspecial for his fault. He even called himself "the shot caller". Oh my lord, if bjerg did not join the team. TSM would have fallen down ages ago.
@user-kj5cb1hh1d
@user-kj5cb1hh1d 2 жыл бұрын
i vouch for this. i was a fan from when tsm formed with chaox and xpecial. reginald went from a prick (but kinda to be expected from a pro player thats arrogrant) to toxic shithole once it became clear that he straight up verbally abused players like dyrus. i like tsm but fuck regi
@scipio764
@scipio764 2 жыл бұрын
Bjersen was the sole reason back then to how TSM could triumph Cloud9. I remember a bunch of people in community back then calling TSM a coward for literally importing a superstar.
@kendivedmakarig215
@kendivedmakarig215 2 жыл бұрын
@@scipio764 Bjergsen is the one who strengthen TSM. He was a part owner of TSM that time along with Regi. But now Bjergsen sold all of his shares to regi.
@gmoney3322
@gmoney3322 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think I could ever let myself get bullied by a dude who looks like wukong permanently and is named reginald
@Crypted542
@Crypted542 2 жыл бұрын
And think he's a "good player".
@esther6664
@esther6664 2 жыл бұрын
Hey hey hey don't insult my boy Wu
@harrismahmood8045
@harrismahmood8045 2 жыл бұрын
@@esther6664 For real
@anhokangame
@anhokangame 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Wukong to be compared like this. So unfair lor.
@TylerQ4
@TylerQ4 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t follow League, but from what I see and hear; he sounds like a toxic owner/teammate, and just a bully in general. Doesn’t help the fact that he has a face you just want to punch lol.
@rasmusnielsen5163
@rasmusnielsen5163 2 жыл бұрын
I swear to everything, if Riot cowards under the influence Reginald and TSM has had/have and dont ban Reginalds ass from Esport, they'll be down bad 😑
@Beezurr
@Beezurr 2 жыл бұрын
Also Valorant
@kevinnguyen290
@kevinnguyen290 2 жыл бұрын
There's probably a lot of legal ramifications around the whole idea of just banning Regi. I'm no lawyer or anything but it can't possibly be easy to ban an owner from eSports. It's already hard as it is in real sports like the NFL with the Dan Snyder situation, where the NFL as an entity has a lot more power to get rid of an owner while also having legal ramifications in potentially federal court against him than Riot or the LCS does versus Regi.
@saintsataniko2116
@saintsataniko2116 2 жыл бұрын
Doublelift also said that there's no way REGI will sell TSM and step away from the org, that instead he would burn it all down before he would ever do that. Hard to know what that would actually mean other than dragging out a lengthy court battle that could go on for years (he has the money to do so), or somehow refusing to allow the TSM name to continue in the LCS meaning the spot would be sold to a new ownership under a new name, depriving RIOT of its flagship brand (although safe to say that flagship looks like the Titanic these days anyway).
@Leyrann
@Leyrann 2 жыл бұрын
The real question is whether the state is going to get involved. According to the WP article, TSM as an organisation has breached California's state laws numerous times. If that were to happen, shit truly hits the fan.
@DKtrek21
@DKtrek21 2 жыл бұрын
Regi is like the bullied kid who got successful in life and bullied others back
@MB-go6uy
@MB-go6uy 2 жыл бұрын
Thing is though he would never try to bully even today the same type of people that bullied him. He would get clapped and he knows it. So he uses his power the has being your boss as his green light to bully.
@kevinnguyen290
@kevinnguyen290 2 жыл бұрын
@@MB-go6uy Yeah honestly a bully like Andy is 10000x worse than a physical bully in your childhood ever will be since he has so much money, power, and influence he could literally fuck your whole life over through legal issues and its honestly all just a mess. It sucks to say it but being physically bullied as a kid is better than what people who work under bosses like Regi have to deal with
@SlCKNESS_
@SlCKNESS_ 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's called TeamSoloMid for a reason. And yes, Regi founded the team as the midlaner at the time, so he literally only ever considered himself. You don't need to go further than that to realize the dude's a douche and isn't going to be fun to work with.
@WesTiel
@WesTiel 2 жыл бұрын
thats what i thought too, this comment needs more likes!
@tyman6788
@tyman6788 2 жыл бұрын
As a TSM fan since 2013 this is awful. I have always dislike regi. Probably going to be looking to support a new team soon.
@ismailpatel3883
@ismailpatel3883 2 жыл бұрын
Try EG, not a huge LCS fan myself but Ive taken a real liking to EG this year, seem to have very down to earth culture.
@darkyperv34
@darkyperv34 2 жыл бұрын
@@ismailpatel3883 HAHAHAHAA down to earth culture, If only you knew how they too keep workers in contractor hell
@solaralpaca5105
@solaralpaca5105 2 жыл бұрын
join the eg bandwagon with me brother. been a tsm fan forever but honestly after last year and this year im done with this shit till regi steps down so im rockin eg merch this year NAmen
@艾可
@艾可 2 жыл бұрын
@@darkyperv34 literally any team is better than tsm atm doesn't matter what it is
@tyman6788
@tyman6788 2 жыл бұрын
@@solaralpaca5105 yeah I might I really like Danny and Impact!
@mantis8085
@mantis8085 2 жыл бұрын
The internal investigation was concluded. Apparently he did nothing wrong according to the internal service hired by TSM. Shocker
@lubenhristov8455
@lubenhristov8455 9 ай бұрын
Honestly, Ocelote had to go for far less. It's wild that this guy is still around.
@hugoj2125
@hugoj2125 2 жыл бұрын
Doublelift just absolutely destroying and proving that Regi is a karen and a bully. Sue for everything becuase he has power lol
@AzureRoxe
@AzureRoxe 2 жыл бұрын
Which is a bit ironic since DL is the exact same, with the same massive ego.
@edwardlomeli5657
@edwardlomeli5657 2 жыл бұрын
@@AzureRoxe it’s more so the abuse of power versus them being similar in personalities.
@hplifer
@hplifer 2 жыл бұрын
@@AzureRoxe I can agree that DL also has big ego and sometimes he recognized that too, but one thing is to have big ego for yourself and the other is to have big ego AND harass employees as a CEO/Manager (this is much worse IMHO). Also the part about contractors vs employees is disgusting and I hope that a more serious investigation should follow as well.
@tineye5100
@tineye5100 2 жыл бұрын
@@AzureRoxe DL isn’t abusing a position of power. This is a false equivalence.
@str8harry
@str8harry 2 жыл бұрын
@@AzureRoxe That's an awful comparison. DL has an ego and rightfully so. Everyone has one, especially those who are professionals at what they do. And he has said multiple times he just shit talks for fun/memes. He shows respect to other people and has a nice side. Regi is just an all around piece of garbage.
@sea3267
@sea3267 2 жыл бұрын
Mans got anger issues. feel bad for everyone who has worked with or for him and experienced this. he should seek professional help.
@cl1cka
@cl1cka 2 жыл бұрын
It's not anger issues - it's what happens when you never punish a child. You get a man-child that thinks it can never be wrong and everyone else is wrong. A narcissist. You know what they say "Spare the rod, spoil the child". The whole team founded by him was called team SOLO MID and he was the mid....just from the name it's clear it won't be fun working with this guy...
@lachlanhudson7404
@lachlanhudson7404 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf, you don't let go of your HR head for a bad proposal on a hiring practice. You tell them what needs to change based on the vision of the company and then they go back to work and bring you back a revised model...
@cl1cka
@cl1cka 2 жыл бұрын
Not for bad proposal - for ASKING A QUESTION that Regi didn't like.....The bad proposal statement is there to cover his ass.....
@fakepancake5723
@fakepancake5723 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Doublelift for bringing this to light. Regi is the reason i don't follow TSM anymore.
@DMLoosey
@DMLoosey 2 жыл бұрын
Dang, what two questions did he ask? Hey, do you think you can not yell at employees so often? You know you don't have to yell at players after every game? 🙄
@hiimdarius
@hiimdarius 2 жыл бұрын
Probably 😂
@guttzy212
@guttzy212 2 жыл бұрын
Reginald still in power is insane. He wasn’t even that good when on roster let alone being an owner. Sell it Reginald give it to someone who cares
@dark-pt4de
@dark-pt4de 9 ай бұрын
it's crazy after all these years how he's been the same. in the early days I thought he was rude, but I admired his success as an esporter because his family thought he was the black sheep (they were all doctors etc). then I saw his xpecial argument in the car about turtle, thought it was hella distasteful then didnt see or hear much more of him fast forward many years... still the same still unchanged and it's pretty unacceptable as LoL esports has gotten far more polished (not like it was fine then either lmao)
@bumpermoss4
@bumpermoss4 2 жыл бұрын
damn. I met Regi at an airport and got a pic with him. Had I known that he treated people this badly I wouldn’t have bothered.
@KusunokiSG47
@KusunokiSG47 2 жыл бұрын
Don't be sorry! Now you have a pic with him that can be edited for maximum meme effect
@milianozuniga-deanda4955
@milianozuniga-deanda4955 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the MANY reasons why I moved some of my support to EG. I love TSM but Regis so entitled and makes things worse in the team. I think I can only go on one more failed season before I fully give up on them. 😒
@edhsaio
@edhsaio 2 жыл бұрын
He shouldn't be degrading his players as an owner. Thats the head coach's job.
@lotusofdeath
@lotusofdeath 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, there's no way Reginald gets off free if Riot does an actual investigation into this. We've seen people get fined for leaving the game before nexus explodes, there's no way possible this doesn't get justice. Riot will want their money because REGI is making league look bad. Feel bad for DL... truly do.
@wolfgangiii4719
@wolfgangiii4719 2 жыл бұрын
I am surprised it took this long for action to be taken against regi.
@yeis0n8
@yeis0n8 2 жыл бұрын
Now there’s someone who should be canceled. Cancel culture do your thing
@georgeburchell296
@georgeburchell296 2 жыл бұрын
you know it's a serious vid when they get the slow beat and ambience going
@Mnkeys
@Mnkeys 2 жыл бұрын
Im a C9 and an anti-TSM fan. I've been this way since 2013. The fans have known how destructive TSM & Reginald are for YEARS. This is not new information, it hasnt been. So glad all of the crazy tsm fan boys are getting shut down right now. Its disgusting.
@Shr00ms30
@Shr00ms30 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the time when Hauntzer, Svenskeren, Bjerg, Dlift and Biodaddy were in the roster.
@JohnnyRamRod
@JohnnyRamRod 2 жыл бұрын
That was the best TSM era
@takumifujiwara300
@takumifujiwara300 2 жыл бұрын
After JD and Amber Turd we can get DL vs Reginald? wow
@weezerstan7788
@weezerstan7788 2 жыл бұрын
whos JD
@midthird
@midthird 2 жыл бұрын
@@weezerstan7788 Johnathan Dawson
@takumifujiwara300
@takumifujiwara300 2 жыл бұрын
@@weezerstan7788 Jiggle Deez nuts
@shanty6953
@shanty6953 2 жыл бұрын
@@weezerstan7788 Jon doe
@soybeansoymilksoyboysoysau146
@soybeansoymilksoyboysoysau146 2 жыл бұрын
@@weezerstan7788 Jack Daniels
@OnYourMarcGO
@OnYourMarcGO 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a TSM from the get go but have always had a problem with Regi. He needs to be completely removed from the equation.
@princesssabeana9915
@princesssabeana9915 2 жыл бұрын
Wildturtles face when Regi was blaming him broke my heart.
@axeliosstonewall6235
@axeliosstonewall6235 2 жыл бұрын
Wukong has been a problem since his release. Been causing havoc on the rift since I can remember back in beta. It was right time, right place and he foresaw the success and lucrative possibilities of the eSports scene. He got rich too quick, seized too much power very young, before he got a chance to grow up. They were all kids. He's a geek who made money, started dating girls way out of his league, and got used to being told yes to everything. Very, very young. He's mind is stunted. Not an excuse, just an objective pov.
@lolamb343
@lolamb343 2 жыл бұрын
DL didnt exactly box him in if theres video proof of his behavior and more than just DL coming out about how he treats people around him :/
@felixpettersson9367
@felixpettersson9367 2 жыл бұрын
It would be so good for the esports scene as a whole if regi went down since it would set a precedent in esports for work abuse. Even though I’m not sure how deep this all goes. I’d rather have an potential injustice now for the greater good than to have a bunch suffer the same down the line since esports just keeps growing.
@RedesignatedClockwork
@RedesignatedClockwork 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, going by scattered reports from a good chunk of (ex-)pro-players and people who have worked in competitive League since its founding but have achieved enough success to criticize its flaws (e.g. LS), this kind of thing has always been par for the course, and there's been multiple scandals like this throughout competitive League's history. But that doesn't mean it's acceptable. I fully agree with you in hoping this leads to precedents for the better.
@carrotjt4441
@carrotjt4441 2 жыл бұрын
Reginald wasnt the "ad carry" back in his league days btw, he was the AP MID.
@andrewli8900
@andrewli8900 2 жыл бұрын
Even this is technically true, back in those days, players would regularly swap positions until the current lane meta was established.
@mellowmike7520
@mellowmike7520 2 жыл бұрын
The hardstuck platinum blue card master
@kendivedmakarig215
@kendivedmakarig215 2 жыл бұрын
Reginald was a Midlaner that time.
@chrisc9769
@chrisc9769 2 жыл бұрын
IF even HALF of what's come out is true about Regi, he need to be hit with the whole book, and then some. What this is investigation/war of words/articles is doing to eSports as a WHOLE is showing that the bad days of eSports has not gone away. It's showing that there are still teams out there in the wider eSports world that still believe even with all the rules and regulations and laws they can do whatever they please because they are still looking at this as a fad not a legitimate sport. "If it's not legit who cares?" That kind of thinking could destroy 20+ years of progress and what other teams, players, front offices, and fans have been fighting for. That's my opinion. Take it as you will.
@1Viewer2Another
@1Viewer2Another 2 жыл бұрын
What's up with the binurals in the background, though? Genuinely would like to know why it's in.
@jurai1044
@jurai1044 2 жыл бұрын
Doublelift: “he’s like a bully who gets away with being a bad person” So what your saying is…. He’s a bully
@bau9894
@bau9894 2 жыл бұрын
i think he backpedalled on that train of thought. good on doublelift to choose his words wisely and not get carried away by his emotions
@dxxp4914
@dxxp4914 2 жыл бұрын
you left out the rest of the sentence
@isaac2986
@isaac2986 2 жыл бұрын
i give it 3 more years before people call for regi's head (removing him as an owner permanently).....
@gcgx
@gcgx 2 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for people to dig even deeper for regi's toxic clips, there are even more toxic outbursts from him on tape and if I am remembering correctly there are recordings of messages he left on someones answering machine that might be the most toxic clip of him ever, find that shit.
@brodygates7535
@brodygates7535 2 жыл бұрын
What I don’t get is why there hasn’t been a case already. “TSM Reginald assaulted by former TSM roster, will not recover”
@ajam1013
@ajam1013 2 жыл бұрын
It baffles me that just because TSM is so big that Reginald has not been banned permanently from every and any Riot affiliation. It just proves once again they care more about their profits than the community
@nivity
@nivity 2 жыл бұрын
That is one annoying background sound over the talking.
@darkin1484
@darkin1484 2 жыл бұрын
Time to move on from supporting TSM. Everyone should look for an alternative team to support. Not because of the players but because if nobody supports them. Andy will have a hopeless org. Other players are better off in different orgs as it is.
@roxieroll8101
@roxieroll8101 2 жыл бұрын
"Multiple workers at TSM and Blitz had been misclassified as contractors rather than full time employees." I've heard that one before, I watch pro wrestling. There's a large chance that the "misclassification" was intentional.
@braydenrichardson8879
@braydenrichardson8879 2 жыл бұрын
This whole situation is crazy as a kid I used to look up to tsm in general cuz of league but now idk man regi just needs to leave
@pepperpool
@pepperpool 2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad that the likes of Blizzard and TSM get called out for shit like that. For a better futur!
@chaoxruler6880
@chaoxruler6880 2 жыл бұрын
There are people that don't wanna be hated. But regi is doing everything he can to be hated by everyone even people that don't know shit about league.
@Goodbrew84
@Goodbrew84 2 жыл бұрын
1:04 that post is not the post of a stable org.
@mabinuqi03
@mabinuqi03 2 жыл бұрын
The JD vs heard trial is on recess time to check in with the talent suppression machine
@HowDazzyDo
@HowDazzyDo 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being that toxic to everyone about not being the best in the worst region for LoL. Imagine if the Detroit Lions started treating their players like this for not winning the super bowl when they clearly never stood a chance.
@MistahUnknown
@MistahUnknown 2 жыл бұрын
If Andy steps down, it'll basically be like him saying "There's truth in everything DoubleLift said". Andy won't step down as CEO nor sell the company.
@Denji23
@Denji23 2 жыл бұрын
is that picture in the back david mitchel?
@RaikkonenFan2891
@RaikkonenFan2891 2 жыл бұрын
It is so funny that a guy used to trashtalk is complaining about a team he was contracted for only 1 year and complainging about toxicity - kind or ironic.
@KhronosTrigger
@KhronosTrigger 2 жыл бұрын
I was never a TSM fan, I liked the players (Dyrus, Bjerg, Turle) But the org I always had a gut wrenching feeling about every time I thought about them. After the video with Reginald talking about Turtle in the car with everyone, then after the Dyrus video of him streaming and getting agitated with Reginald. It's just not a good idea to be affiliated right now with Reginald. The org needs to force him to resign.
@culturekingsboy6555
@culturekingsboy6555 2 жыл бұрын
Reginald didn’t even finish high school, he was a drop kick bully who raged at kids on a video game. He is like a kid who accidentally bought 100,000 bit coin and became a billionaire. What do these two have in common? Neither of them gained their wealth from skills, it was sheer dumb luck that Reginald rode the esport wave.
@joshpar9402
@joshpar9402 2 жыл бұрын
Remember when regi played zilean mid, made a huge dumb solo rotation to baron, got murdered, then proceeded to flame his entire team? I'm not surprised.
@clashwithmoi8926
@clashwithmoi8926 2 жыл бұрын
We have investigated our issues, ourselves and found no wrongdoing.
@kevinzki21
@kevinzki21 2 жыл бұрын
I know riot president tryndamere had beefs with regi historically. Maybe riot finally found a way to move on with out tsm's popular influence since they're kinda bad atm
@bigboss2063
@bigboss2063 2 жыл бұрын
Regi Should Be Removed Because He Doesn’t Deserve The Org The Money Is Getting Into His Head we need petition to remove him out of there.
@fenrael3021
@fenrael3021 2 жыл бұрын
and tsm will be gone too
@timmyotoole6063
@timmyotoole6063 2 жыл бұрын
reginald was my homie back in beta. he used to play shaco, stack boxes and have us bait people into brush. way ahead of his time.
@ottomanpapyrus9365
@ottomanpapyrus9365 Жыл бұрын
ha ha that's interesting
@johannesschmidt9819
@johannesschmidt9819 2 жыл бұрын
If you have a "zero tolerance" for underperformance, why do you underperform as CEO? And should you not quit your job then?
@LauritsTTCampen
@LauritsTTCampen 2 жыл бұрын
the only thing I want to comment on is the fact that people are still using the same old clip as evidence, like jesus how many years ago was that clip from? so much has happened since then and everyone has been using that clip million times.. I mean if he is that bad maybe use other clips instead?
@ottomanpapyrus9365
@ottomanpapyrus9365 Жыл бұрын
Where is that vid where Dyrus defends Reginald?
@mrlv1998
@mrlv1998 2 жыл бұрын
I dont know, I'm still not sold. A bunch of cropped out videos from years ago, a CONFIDENTIAL LETTER not supposed to be disclosed to anyone other than DL... I mean even Bjergsen commented on DL exaggerating and over selling how he remembers certain events playing out. I'm not backing up Regi, but allegations and incorrect forms of evidence shouldnt condemn someone as hard as the League community is condemning Regi.
@thegreatescape07
@thegreatescape07 2 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with how Regi treats people, but just to clarify - it was work to hire people FOR competitors, not FROM them. I would be pissed about that as well. lol
@One62gaming
@One62gaming 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine Hal and Reginald goin each other
@mjxgoku2783
@mjxgoku2783 2 жыл бұрын
There was a point in time where Reginald hired someone to hack HotshotGG's ( CLG owner ) account and they played with the hacker. You can find the video on KZbin somewhere. It was the reason why his team AoN at the time was banned from being able to compete in the WCG. Reginald has always been a toxic player who abused his power over his teammates and I'm glad he's finally getting called out on it. You would think he would change from all of this time - but considering the fact that he's never been punished for his actions, I guess he feels no reason to ever change his toxic ways.
@captaintalon4485
@captaintalon4485 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does it seem like if anything esports related gets reported in the major newspapers it’s usually bad?
@folieadeux147
@folieadeux147 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a reason Bjerg didn’t want to work with them when they were clearly angling to build the team around him
@c0rt3x2k2
@c0rt3x2k2 2 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine how TSM r6 was treated after stage 1 of NAL
@thieve07chovy10
@thieve07chovy10 2 жыл бұрын
after deep and amber done , i need to have , doublelift and reginald in the court with all of the ex-employes /players of tsm.
@JeremyJayanto3033
@JeremyJayanto3033 2 жыл бұрын
This 👆
@brendondevilliers1350
@brendondevilliers1350 2 жыл бұрын
Dudes. Good video as usual, but turn down the white noise thing for this one; it damn near gave me a headache.
@M4RCi92
@M4RCi92 2 жыл бұрын
Why haven't the employees recorded multiple hours of Dinh abusing them yet?! It'd be so easy to redact sensitive info, and threaten him with showing the recordings first to Riot, then the public if he doesn't change his behavior. The only one there who had balls is Doublelift.
@felixw4993
@felixw4993 2 жыл бұрын
As a early stage TSM fan (mostly Theoddone and Dyrus fan )I’d say his aggressiveness definitely contributed to TSM’s success, but as the company grows he needs to grow too…
@kendivedmakarig215
@kendivedmakarig215 2 жыл бұрын
Actually it didn't contribute well, it only made it worst. The pro players' performance get worst when they join TSM. The reason why TSM survived that time is because of Bsergjen.
@ottomanpapyrus9365
@ottomanpapyrus9365 Жыл бұрын
@@kendivedmakarig215 so Bjergsen got TSM to be Runner's up in 2013 before he even joined them?
@KolossusB
@KolossusB 2 жыл бұрын
Regi needs to disappear from the scene forever. He has plenty of money and will be more than fine living out the rest of his life. But he should have the privilege of being involved in LCS revoked absolutely for his literal years of transgressions at this point. Whether it be forcing the dismantling or removal of TSM, or the removal of regi himself by selling the company so he's no longer involved. But if Regi's TSM is allowed to keep existing it's only going to continue to damage the scene and brand of professional League of Legends.
@CannonAbuser
@CannonAbuser 2 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest, TSM made its name by OddOne to Dyrus to Bjergsen. He got lucky, his org got carried. To his benefit, he actively thought of making such team initially before anyone else, but still, he got lucky.
@CagedRyno
@CagedRyno 2 жыл бұрын
They were dominate before Dyrus and Bjergsen ever came along however they did both benefit the team. They had arguably NA’s best tournament record with TheRainMan and Reggie playing top and mid early on.
@CannonAbuser
@CannonAbuser 2 жыл бұрын
@@CagedRyno coz there wasn't competition at the time. Also everyone and anyone plays at different team on different tournament. Arguably, young Dom was the best jungler at the time. Regi was even salty when Dom declined his request to join their tourney team.
@CagedRyno
@CagedRyno 2 жыл бұрын
@@CannonAbuser doesn’t matter that the competition was weaker. If the team had the most tournament wins and was still one of the most dominant western teams without Dyrus or Bjerg, your original post is wrong.
@CannonAbuser
@CannonAbuser 2 жыл бұрын
@@CagedRyno Get ur facts straight. TSM was never and had never been the best western team since they were created. EU was far superior at that time, hence why, EU Vs EU happened at WC S1. Members came from a team called All or Nothing, Also, they were never the top dog in NALCS, until Xpecial came to the team. Your details and grammar are all over the place.
@CagedRyno
@CagedRyno 2 жыл бұрын
@@CannonAbuser i said one of the best which they absolutely were
@thefurmidablecatlucky3
@thefurmidablecatlucky3 2 жыл бұрын
this is literally just like Amber Heard vs Johnny Depp trial, the one who is abusive toward others are getting away with it because they are popular/powerful
@hebrewsky
@hebrewsky 2 жыл бұрын
That video of them talking about Turtle like he's not there is both hilarious and sad
@714kd5
@714kd5 2 жыл бұрын
Reggie doesn’t understand the tsm brand as a whole is way bigger than him at this point
@its1374
@its1374 2 жыл бұрын
TSM is already doomed with Regi. Damage done already and too late
@MrMark1n1
@MrMark1n1 2 жыл бұрын
Damn he was a toxic back when he was on the team and now he’s still toxic while being CEO of his organization. Some people never improve
@noodle6679
@noodle6679 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else see an uncanny resemblance between Regi and Wukong? Or is it just me.
@BrianXu352
@BrianXu352 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t diss wukong he’s the goat
@famlivingroom1790
@famlivingroom1790 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh why you gotta insult Wukong like that
@greenhat7618
@greenhat7618 2 жыл бұрын
Bro Wukong is goodlooking wdym
@corndog7813
@corndog7813 2 жыл бұрын
TSM *investigating* its own creator from career-ending accusations, lol who are we kidding? Do their say really matter in the table? What's important is RITO's judgment, period.
@The_Ragman
@The_Ragman 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see how TSM kept a roster through this environment. The money just isn't good enough to justify tolerating this shit.
@christianlacroix4
@christianlacroix4 2 жыл бұрын
The top ten guy is talking about ooooold LoL players, man idk what is this but I love it.
@Alex-nh6zc
@Alex-nh6zc 2 жыл бұрын
Theyre trying to sue doublelift because they know theyre gonna need the money. Either for settlements to Andy's victims or for his big fat severance from the company.
@jerkit9310
@jerkit9310 2 жыл бұрын
LOL, love how the "ESG", sends such a tone deaf letter to Doublelift in hopes it will shut him up. As if they are experts in the Defamation field of law, which is not a good look on ESG. Should have walked Regi to a proper firm that handles that... or...
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