The Downfall Of 30 SECONDS TO MARS

[@RockedNet]

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[@mix3k818]

No, I'll lie and say 30STM is a disco band

[@TheKalaxis]

They were never good

[@alex_flamer]

I don't know much about their mid-2000s material other than The Kill, but I do remember hearing This is War and Kings & Queens off the next album. All good songs. But I checked out America because of the bad reviews from you, ARTV, and other channels, and yes it's very bad!

[@54syqe]

All i can say is that i saw them live in Australia last thursday, the arena was packed and the people were going crazy, they put on a good show as well. So they must be resonating with people still.

[@OzzyCorgiFox]

Man they suck hard

[@nickw.9716]

Jared Leto's ego grew so big, it became a third Leto brother/full-time member over time. It's a shame. A Beautiful Lie was peak 30STM.

[@RockedNet]

2000's era 30STM really is a different species than 2020's 30STM.

[@thatbloodyvalentine]

@@RockedNet I like the first 2 albums I'm trying to get thru the newest album ill give an update after im done.

[@galaxyride4944]

😅😂

[@thatbloodyvalentine]

It's a complete waste of time. All the songs sound the same with boring lyric writing, the songs become repetitive, The album cover art is lame, its not worth trying Listen to the S/T , A Beautiful Lie. Personally I only like the first 2. But that's just my opinion

[@AndI0td763]

@@thatbloodyvalentine I don’t mind the third album but I don’t go past that. For reasons already mentioned, too artificial, too poppy and phoned in. The earlier stuff had some passion and intensity to it, which is what I look for, and the newer stuff just doesn’t have that.

[@hellonurd8957]

If Ronnie Radke is The Homelander of the music scene, then Jared Leto is The Deep.

[@heavenly2k]

I don't even watch that terrible show and I agree

[@PapaCalledMeSon]

Ronnie is more like billie butcher

[@MarkTheCat]

💀💀💀

[@dethrocker]

​@@PapaCalledMeSona massive twat then 😂😂

[@dorkknight42]

Ronnie is the deep, hes more rapey from what i know

[@CableB_]

Can’t wait for Todd to do TrainWreckords for 30STM

[@mix3k818]

I'm certain that he'll cover it.

[@coltsfan354]

LLFD or America? It's really a Prism/Witness situation.

[@johnenigma8506]

I think Todd could do the first double feature TrainWreckords on 30STM.

[@blackphillip8486]

It will be remarkable.

[@mattscfc849]

It went to shit once Tomo left

[@shaunykat]

It definitely was the final straw. They went downhill sharply after Matt.

[@blessthephil]

I think Matt was also important.

[@KasperK-su9oz]

Funnily enough all the horrifying stories about the Leto brothers taking advantage of drunk groupies, their are legions of those stories on Reddit, or being rude to their fans or festival workers etc. has somehow almost never mentioned Tomo as being like them, but distancing himself from them. He did the right thing and there is no doubt that he was the talented one in the band. I used to like this band, then I matured and got taste.

[@amyjohnson6886]

30stm went to shit with the Jared Leto cult.

[@nOisy_Brain]

This video is everything I’ve been saying about them for years. I saw them live in a small club, probably back in ‘04, I think. I know A Beautiful Lie wasn’t released yet. They only performed 2 songs that would be in A Beautiful Lie. They weren’t the headliner…they were the opener. They were awesome. No ego, no production. Just a rock band playing a show. Now I wouldn’t go see them if I had free tickets. Their self titled debut was a masterpiece. I wore that album out when it was released. A Beautiful Lie and This is War were different, but still pretty good. Everything after that, I had zero interest in. I’m all about change, and I’m not against switching genres. But I felt Jared’s ego got so inflated, they didn’t put any effort or feeling into the music. His celebrity sold the music instead of the music selling the music. You said it perfectly. It’s as if humans stopped making the music and just used A.I. Again, I’m not bothered by them not making the same album that they did 20 years ago (also I wish they did). I’m against not putting effort and feeling into it, knowing you’re so famous, it’ll sell anyway. That day I saw them as an opening act, twenty some years ago, in a small club was probably one of the best shows I’ve seen. Now it’s not even a band. It’s just both Leto brothers’ inflated ego on stage, with backing tracks. No thanks.

[@Pinkrosesandagraveyard]

I saw them when they opened for Incubus in ‘02, and he absolutely still had the elitist attitude. He’s just gotten more obvious about it.

[@volpe_lightsong]

They were good when they were a group of people with well defined and varied roles to play in contrast to like, one single narcissist for the lack of a better word and his brother calling all the shots and firing the rest 😂. Total agreement here.

[@surfacematter2098]

Same here. Saw them at Rigley Theatre....not headliner either. It was a place that was so run down Im not really sure it shouldnt have been just called underground. lol I mean, Im not sure they were all legal..but it was a great show. They even signed cd's after. I mean, they WORKED from the ground up just like every other band and , maybe had a little bit of edge up monitarily, but they got the listens the same as anyone else. I stopped listening after This is War. Too big and, frankly, out of touch.

[@PEHfinale]

@@nOisy_Brain so ironic that his celebrity sells the music now since when they first started out he refused to let the label market the band using his actor status.

[@alexlight4178]

I also wore out my self titled copy from so many spins. Good times.

[@venomousnate7263]

What 30 Seconds to Mars is now is a super far cry from what there was. It really is a shell of once it once was.

[@Stefan_Gerards]

they're basically just The Jared Leto Experience at this stage. his ego is out of this world lol

[@AndrewK-o2w]

Their first two albums were great, the third was pretty good. Everything after that is awful.

[@Soujiro89]

I am a former die-hard fan. Got my triad tattoo, bought the deluxe edition of LLF&D, went two times with the "golden ticket" experience to their shows, and even was an extra on the "Up in the Air" video. If it weren't for money, I would have gone to the Mars Island. Safe to say I had a heavy man-crush with Jared. Wanted to be him, look like him, sing like him. Also made a lot of friends thanks to going to the VIP experiences, and have very good memories of those times. After America, I lost all faith in the band. Got my tattoo covered now. Hope they can turn it around, but really unlikely. Jared is an ego-maniac. The few interactions I've had with him, I could tell he's very full of himself. My impression is that after the Joker and Morbius, he flipped. Maybe all the hate got into him, and ruining 30stm could be his revenge with the world...

[@xMars4Lifex]

No you just changed your taste or maybe you realised jared isn’t gay and you didn’t stand a chance

[@xMars4Lifex]

Also I’ve met him 7 times first time 2011 randomly at the airport 2 minutes after saying hello he asked my to look after his luggage while he went to the restroom he’s bag with money passport everything opened on top of luggage. He said he trusted me and that was that 25 minutes we spent chatting and no rush to leave. Fast forward to a month ago met him again still the same down to earth beautiful human I met over a decade ago. You can say shit about him but really be honest with yourself you got a little obsessed with him you even stated you dressed like him. Nothing anyone say will change my opinion of them they saved me and continue to get me through hard times. Now their next album is going back to their roots let’s see if you keep this same opinion of him.

[@Soujiro89]

@@xMars4Lifex glad you had good interactions with him. It wasn’t the same for me. I didn’t want to go into details but here it is: First time meet and greet, very casual, barely spoke. Second time on the up in the air set, he was filming everyone one by one, everyone was making “cool poses” and faces. When he’s filming me I try to make a cool pose, and he yells at me saying “no pose!”, I didn’t quite listen to him because I was super nervous, and english is my second language. So he yells again. I froze. My shot in that video is completely still, while most others are making some kind of action move. Later everyone gets called to do some more shots of people throwing dust, he calls people individually, and I was one of the left out. I stood by the sidelines watching everyone being filmed, while he excluded me and some others. Luckily Tomo was close and we chatted. He was pretty down to earth. Third time it was in another meet and greet. Everyone was allowed to ask one question, and I asked him how he learned to power-scream. He gave me the simplest three word answer: “i just do it. Next question”. I waited for years to ask him that question, and he gave two flying fucks. Later that time it was picture time, and I asked to be between Shanon and Tomo, Jared acted offended that I hadn’t chose him. In my picture it shows him being somewhat offended. I’m not saying he is terrible, he’s just a little bit full of himself. Yes, his music changed my life in more ways that I can explain. But they also went down a path of selling out. If the new album is good, and I 100% hope it is, I’ll applaud them. If it isn’t, then I’ll know why. I don’t claim to know the guy, but I’ve been so immersed in his music, film, and products, that I understand him. And he is a very proud and arrogant person. It might be what got him to stardom in the first place….

[@xMars4Lifex]

@@Soujiro89 last month at the M&G he was asked the same question how do you scream you have to remember he gets asked the same thing time and time again. He asked that he actually just screams so hope that answers you question and you get closure. It might be a language barrier as you said English is your second language. You have to remember Jared is a perfectionist I have always said I would never work with him he has the highest of standards. Are you the guy who is standing there with a blank expression? I think that’s a cool part of the video. Jared has no filter he even says that he’s too harsh sometimes it’s his flaw. I’m sorry you felt like he treated you badly. I know a lot of the people throwing coloured chalk powered were those from the Kings and Queens video I think he just wanted them in it so don’t take it personal. Tomo is beautiful isn’t he. You know how you aren’t meant to touch them “inappropriately” they tell you when you first go in. Well as I walked passed him got the photo he yells out “she touched my bum” I was mortified and screamed “no I didn’t” they all just laughed at me. They like to play jokes in people. As for the photo thing he’s known for acting upset when people choose to stand between Tomo and Shannon. Last M&G was probably the best for Q&A they answered a lot of questions they do presigned posters now so it gives you more time with the band talking. You summit questions before going and they give them to the band Jared looked at them and obviously didn’t like them or had an idea what people would ask and he just went and asked who had questions. There new album is going to be back to their roots and Shannon said it will be a rock album and Jared said think TIW part 2 so I’m pretty excited about that. I’m sorry you felt your experiences were bad but I truly think it’s a language barrier and dude if he didn’t want you in the video you wouldn’t have been in it. He probably wanted that reaction out of you for the video. If you want to talk further I have started a new IG @CindySMBC_ (name to be changed soon as it going to be a account to share my experiences with all the bands I’ve met a music digital diary) DM me and we can talk more in private.

[@Replicaate]

I always felt like 30STM was at one point a great competitor/companion to MCR in their oddly specific subgenre of ultra-theatrical alt-rock that the 00s spawned. Ironic as hell that MCR's fanbase and people obsessing over their album-worldbuilding only grew after their breakup, while 30STM's nosedived despite them remaining together-ish.

[@crazydud3380]

Yeah, they were directly compared at the time, and had many of the same fans. MCR changed quite a bit too, but mostly kept the quality up. 30STM, not so much.

[@Replicaate]

@@crazydud3380 To an extent I think MCR being on break helped - you can’t screw up what you’ve already made, yknow? It’ll be interesting to see if they make new material that holds up to their old catalog. They’d have to actually TRY to fall as hard as 30STM did, though.

[@johnenigma8506]

I know the acting and the music are two separate things. But I could pinpoint the beginning of the downfall was when Jared Leto won the Oscar for Dallas Buyers Club in 2013-14.

[@Soujiro89]

This, very much this. Also after that the Joker hate really got him...

[@alexandru5369]

@@Soujiro89 Doesn't help he actually started a cult

[@CinemageddonReviews]

Hi, fan of MARS here. Having seen them live twice in my lifetime, during the height of both This is War and Love Lust Faith + Dreams, I wanna go on record by saying… 30 Seconds to Mars were the greatest thing ever in my life once upon a time and their music inspired me in a positive way while in a dark period I struggled to get out of… that band… IS NOT THE SAME ONE IN AMERICA OR ITS THE END OF THE WORLD! I dont blame Tomo for quitting tbh, the band is currently running on autopilot while it feels like all of their songs are being handled by everyone on the music business EXCEPT for Jared and Shannon who spearheaded nearly every decision and helped create masterpiece after masterpiece. That band is gone! I don’t know if they’ll ever be able to make a proper comeback, but I’m holding onto the smallest veil of hope that Jared will wake up from whatever vegan crap he’s ingesting and realize that whatever the hell they’re currently doing IS NOT FUCKING WORKING!

[@oops6876]

Hey now, don’t blame veganism for his weirdo shit 💀

[@galaxyride4944]

I’ll hope he Will wake up from his cult cloud. To get Some sense into his ego

[@JediSithord23]

💯

[@AndI0td763]

@@CinemageddonReviews I could’ve predicted this. Leto seems a busy guy with his focus in too many directions. He should’ve brought on people who had passion and direction and creativity. That way he could hand off the music making duties to other talented people when he needs to, but knowing Leto he just has to be that guy and the center of everything.

[@Freaky0Nina]

i happened to be in the front row of a 30secondstomars concert at a festival a couple of years ago. and let me tell you. it was one weird experience. you could tell by the way he acted and the girls around me suddenly all started crying just b ecause he appeared on stage.... that something was off. like. nothing he said had any real meaning, it was all in #deep territory, and he just really celebrated... himself. no other band member could be spotted on stage, it was all playback. at a rock festival. and him acting like he was the next big jesus. a fifty year old guy deliberately rellishing in his fan crowd of 18 to 22 year old women. he was also the only guy at the entire festival who wouldnt give kudos to anyone on the stage, who were so far back you couldnt even see them.

[@A7X31610]

My mom loves this band funnily enough. Took her to see them for her birthday this year (Kennyhoopla and AFI were opening so that was great) and before we even got into the theatre, security were asking people with lawn tickets if they wanted upgraded pavilion seats to make it look more filled in. Ive never seen this done before at any show at an amphitheater. During the show he started just calling people down from the lawn and upper bowl to just run down and fill in the seats themselves because his ego obviously couldnt handle seeing the empty seats in front of him. Such a weird night and performer

[@Replicaate]

A bunch of my fellow AFI fans went to that tour just to see them, and left before 30STM. Talk about an opener roster outclassing the headliner!

[@A7X31610]

@Replicaate I will say they weren't HORRIBLE live? The cult vibe is uncomfortable and every other band was playing better music but they played some old stuff and definitely weren't the WORST band I've ever seen live. Can definitely tell half the crowd left after AFI though.

[@faeriegraver]

Oh man I've seen fans leave after a band, or a specific song before. This is well deserved though honestly. I like AFI.

[@Thebubballoo682]

Was this at PNC in Charlotte?

[@mezykin]

i feel very conflicted about your mom

[@coltsfan354]

Jared had his best role in Fight Club when he was beaten unrecognizable. If only he was willing to humble himself from then on.

[@KorruptedFlame]

What about American psycho where he's hacked to death with an Axe? lol

[@Leon_SKennnedy]

Any role with Jared Leto getting beat is great

[@pnk4120]

Bunch of disgusting haters ...

[@byronridenour4585]

The self-titled record is truly phenomenal. I remember as a sophomore I was obsessed with that album (still am), and nobody had even heard of them lol I saw them play a show at my tiny local venue (now defunct) and one of their tour guys came to me and asked me to record the show using the bands personal camcorder. What an experience; I’ll never forget it

[@alexlight4178]

Yeah self titled is one of the best rock records.

[@BlinkPS2]

When it comes to bands who went downhill, I can truly never forgive 30 Seconds to Mars for how painfully awful they became!! Their current stuff is so bad that it makes Imagine Dragons look like Pantera, and that’s a very bad comparison.

[@nightsgrow6575]

Same. They were so good.

[@benjipc5637]

The fact that Jared Leto is 52 and now making music a 20-something e-boy would make is baffling.

[@faeriegraver]

Because he's probably behaving exactly like a 20-something e-boy in his personal life and honestly that's a disturbing thought

[@christopherespinoza-darnel8514]

​@@faeriegraverIts distrubing that girls your age would rather be with Jared Leto than even look your way? Sounds like jealousy as well as incelism.

[@owninfools23]

52 still fucking with kids.

[@faeriegraver]

@@christopherespinoza-darnel8514 I'm a 38 year old woman dude

[@faeriegraver]

@@christopherespinoza-darnel8514 I'm a 38 year old woman dude

[@AlexKawa20]

You pretty much hit the nail on the head, Luke. I saw 30STM in 2014 on their tour with Linkin Park, and I thought they were really good! But that version of the band really feels like it's from another world given where they are now. It's night and day, and I don't mean that in a good way. On a side note, I loved the format of this video! I'd love to see more like this!

[@johnenigma8506]

Yeah, 30STM was an actual band at one point.

[@volrath__]

It's wild to me that in 10 years they have gone from a very well received sub headline mainstage act at Download Festival (the footage used for the This Is War segment) to not even be able to sell out amphitheatres... That is a huge and insane fall I don't think in the 20 years I have been going to the festival I have seen a band in that slot fall so hard... Well apart from Lost Prophets, but that isn't exactly a thing to be proud of lol

[@AndI0td763]

It is a long way to fall. I remember in the mid and late 2000’s they were everywhere, very popular with a very dedicated fan base.

[@faeriegraver]

Yeah LOSTPROPHETS is... A different story... I find Jared Leto to give off proper creep energy though. I can't picture anyone being as bad as Ian Watkins but I wouldn't be surprised if he was up to some gross shit.

[@d.52555]

My god, lost prophets.. man, it hurts knowing Ian did what he did and forever scarred multiple kids and teens

[@DarknessFlameMedia]

Lost Prophets were never as big as 30 seconds tho. Most people wouldn't have a clue who you are talking about if you bring them up

[@jevinday]

Just to be clear though, Jared was method acting way before the mid 2010s, he was doing it in requiem for a dream and that movie came out before their first album. So i don't necessarily think it's fair to say that their music got worse because he was method acting. I don't like this band, i just wanted to clarify that

[@bloodofredmoon]

Fun Fact: Their physical 2023 album has an AI generated quote on the sleeve.

[@megano2000]

How do you know?

[@miserirken]

@@megano2000 they literally proudly advertised it as such. It was the future!

[@mesousagaby740]

"Up In The Air" were their last good song, frankly.

[@RockedNet]

And that was over 10 years ago.

[@AndI0td763]

@@RockedNet Man has it been that long already? For some reason I still think of this album as their new one, I guess because that was the point when I fell off. I was just not vibing with the new direction, everything about this album seemed plain to me at the time. The singles and style they were going for, right down to the artwork and actual name of the album. Never grabbed me. And even now I’ve struggled to listen to it in full, maybe I’ll give it another chance but I’m definitely not expecting the early stuff or even This Is War because I know I’ll be in for some serious disappointment.

[@Thelegochronicles3798]

Conquisador was their last natural sounding rock rong, everything sinse has been generic

[@somersfamily]

😂😂😂

[@blessthephil]

Last track I liked was End Of All Days

[@DaFort1985]

30STM became that friend that you loved and they changed so much that you don’t even recognize them anymore. It’s so disappointing for what they become. I loved them and was obsessed with them, American came out and it was all over for me.

[@ElliYeetYT]

“I Think The Joker Would Like 30 Seconds To Mars Because He Likes Chaos.” Booooooooooo

[@gabrielpaiva9070]

Fr

[@_Cosmo_]

I wasn't super familiar with their music until I played the remaster of Need For Speed Hot Pursuit (the reboot, not the original). The song used for the title screen was "Edge of the Earth" from the 30STM self-titled debut and it blew me away. Not just because the song was amazing, but because I was in utter disbelief that 30STM was *actually* capable of something like that. Some days I still can't believe it.

[@alexlight4178]

Yeah edge of the earth is timeless

[@jsts22]

That first album was amazing

[@alex_flamer]

You forgot to mention how in interviews leading up to the most recent album, Jared said that he wrote over 200 songs, and the songs on the album are the best after weeding them all out.

[@higiiray3]

As a Russian I was shocked that America got Gold. I think it was just listenings to get free 30StM stickers for local Facebook called Vk. I just played the album on mute to get these and didn't care for the album. P.S. A Beautiful Lie and This is War are more beloved in my country.

[@zoeindisneyland]

You summed this up so well. I was a big fan of 30STM, I regularly listened to their music and watched them perform live so many times but then they changed. Love Lust Faith + Dreams was the last album I bought and I went to see them on their UK tour in 2018(?). Something felt off and it felt like there was no heart and no true emotion anymore, something that I loved about their older music, especially as, like many others, their music got me through some tough times in the late 2000s/early 2010s. Part of me hopes that they will go back to their old style but I think I'll just have to accept that won't happen and to continue to appreciate the old music and memories of 30STM

[@melinoel616]

Love, Lust, Faith + Dreams was the last 30STM album I bought. I still have a soft spot for it, but it wasn’t good enough for me to stick with the band. With how America turned out, I dodged a bullet.

[@archangel_josh]

I gave up when America came out...and their live shows are basically Jared Leto singing karaoke to 30STM songs. There's hardly any live element, just backing tracks and samples. He doesn't even sing that much, he gets the crowd to sing most of the verses and chorus.

[@jarrodhall3686]

Sadly, this isn’t a new phenomenon, at least when it comes to Jared Leto’s singing (or lack thereof). I saw 30STM on their first TOC tour, right at the beginning of their music career. Leto sang, maybe, 60% of the lyrics. The other 40% was him screaming “louder!” at the audience, expecting US to sing HIS songs. They weren’t even popular enough to get away with this at this time.

[@Lily99468]

I saw them a few weeks ago. Karaoke.... lol. Jared sang so strong, his voice was amazing!. He mostly sang, only a bit here and there where the crowd took over. He sang around 90% of the concert.

[@danzigs.8835]

i'm a huge fan of 30stm and i have been since literally the first album. and i mean fan as in 8 tattoos, merch, bought meet & greets, etc. what i can say is that the 'yes this is a cult' mentality has existed among the echelon (the fans) from the beginning, so honestly mars island/mars camp/church concerts(vyrt included) were never really something concerning for who was already into it. however, i agree that from america on there's just... a lack of what made the band actually important to me and so many of us. in a sense where it's honestly just felt a lot more like there's not a single care being put into what reaches our ears. and other fans may disagree with me here, say that the lyrics and the message is still there, but it's just... lazy writing, lazy generic messages, it's just not the same. it does not make us think anymore. there is no symbolism anymore. the attention to everything that's made 30stm exciting is no longer there. doesn't mean i'll stop listening, doesn't mean i'll hate the band, i'm just disappointed, as a fan.

[@Slippy6582]

From actor, to musician, to a somewhat cult-leader... What a career! 🤣

[@warmachineroxlol]

30 STM have always been trend chasers. Alt rock/industrial in the early 2000s, emo in the mid 2000s, stadium rock in 2010s, and now pop, auto tune, and trap beats. They are the most derivative band in the world that will do anything that is popular at the time

[@maximkhalay2725]

Couldn't say it any better, wise words!

[@donut_lyfe]

Possibly, but their breakthrough album (A beautiful lie) was pretty unique sounding ang groundbreaking. It didn’t really sound Emo (that was the genre they were usually grouped with). Idk

[@glazingg]

@@donut_lyfethe first half of a beautiful lie is most definitely emo, if you’ve ever listened to MCR, the Used; etc and compare their early work and aesthetics to a beautiful lie you’ll see it

[@str1897]

Self-Titled is truly underated. The sound is so unique, never found somethibg similar in vibe

[@py16667]

Had a space-rock/metal vibe to it, I got similar vibes to early Linkin Park & Deftones SNW-Koi No Yokan era with it, they really could’ve gone far if they built on that but oh well

[@blessthephil]

Its true. not sure why but I just thought about Kill Hannah. Maybe they had a similar sound not sure. Listen to the song Kennedy and Believer

[@str1897]

@@blessthephil it's different but good ! I get the vibes you are talking about ! Got that Cinema Bizarre edge to it too !

[@tylerhackner9731]

Would love for Todd to do a trainwreckords on them

[@heavenly2k]

You need to stop mentioning Todd. He's my best friend , not yours.

[@conor6436]

He only really does that for iconic artists

[@miserirken]

@@conor6436 30STM were iconic, heck, Leto himself is still an infamous figure in pop culture for a reason.

[@empchi]

@@conor6436 He did a Trainwreckords on Nickleback not too long ago, I think 30STM is definitely up for consideration

[@calvinstraveldreams]

The significantly reduced vocal range live and in studio is somewhat understandable as Jared Leto is getting older (he’s currently 52) and many of 30STM’s songs are REALLY hard to sing, particularly when it comes to high belting…everything else is far less justified though…

[@michaelharan13]

That was very well articulated and the end note was spot on. Absolutely, all for a band to evolve, grow, not become stagnant or just the same sound and theme over and over. But.... it's just another example and case of persons being so disconnected they become unhinged. At this point, as Jared said; he just doesn't care anymore. Like you said, they don't need the money. They clearly don't care about fans unless they're a part of the cult. They've become the kind of people that the moment you disagree or even criticize or critique; you're a fair weather fan, hater, etc. How do you go from being so appreciative of your fans, gracious, even feeding of them to THIS? This band was the one and only band that really impacted and changed me for the better. I'll NEVER forget when I first heard them, where I was, the song, the FEELING, and the tingling sensations after finding out who they were, getting that debut album, and playing it from Capricorn to year zero. Over and over and over. Being part of the Mars army on the MySpace days. Beautiful lie album and then.... that drift. Then just cut off, disconnect, don't give a fuck from wayy too many privileged or woke pills. They're just making music for themselves or money now. They're not doing it for people, let alone fans. They can't. They're too secluded, only around people that think them infallible, and don't know what its like for the rest of us. So how could they make music for anyone else but themselves? They don't bother or even wanna know anyone else outside that bubble. Humility goes a long way. There's a fine line between Humility and Humiliation. Most require the latter to achieve the former unfortunately. Jared and Shannon can't experience either so... Its just a shame cause I think this is the only band that COULD'VE legitimately changed the world; the entire PLANET with music. That work ethic, the sheer DISCIPLINE and DRIVE they USED to have (honestly, watch the documentary where Jared is PUSHING Shannon for just the right beat, consistency, and discipline to not get lazy or complacent) .... but they only care about themselves, their ego, or "art".

[@bummblebee77]

I didn't realize how long I had been away from 30STM until you said Tomo left in 2018. I HAD NO IDEA!!! Also, Jared has been saying almost since the beginning that 'This is a Cult'.

[@maidenengland2]

They are touring in Australia now, they had to cancel New Zealand for poor ticket sales, they sold the tickets half price twice here and downgraded the venue. I bought tickets for half price , then checked out recent videos on KZbin and was shocked at how bad they were . I tried to resell the tickets but tiketek would not let me, so I didn’t even go.

[@muppetb.lansing8374]

Yikes, NZer here, and your comment makes me happy, ha ha

[@maidenengland2]

@@muppetb.lansing8374 glad you liked my comment, I went to see them a few years ago , the crowd freaked me out as they were so young but they did play way better, so glad I watched a few videos before I went or would of been shocked on the night at how different they are now

[@negardanaeifard6166]

I went to their Melbourne show (they had to downgrade to a smaller venue) and it was pretty good. Definitely not the best live show I’ve been to but it was worth it just for one time. Unfortunately I didn’t have the chance to see them 10 or 15 years ago

[@maidenengland2]

@@negardanaeifard6166 they were way better last time , the drum was facing sideways for some reason

[@negardanaeifard6166]

@@maidenengland2 that was my first time seeing them live. I never had the chance so I went only to hear older songs. Kinda felt like I owe it to my teenager years 😂

[@travisdelee8647]

That first album though. I still play about 90 percent of it on full volume front to back. It's so different and at the time, was unlike anything.

[@kevztunz]

Mary was the kind of girl, had a thing for astronauts...

[@travisdelee8647]

Mary was an acrobat , but still she couldn't seem to breathe

[@evat514]

100% agreed. That was hands down their best album.

[@alexlight4178]

Yes.

[@jeremiahalexander5513]

I liked them at first. I actually knew who Jared was as an actor, but didn’t know he was in a band until I saw the video for “From Yesterday” on MySpace when it was released in 2006, I think. It was really, really good. I got into some of their music and like a handful of their songs. They were a great band with skill, and knew how to brand and market themselves. But I think they’ve declined a lot when Jared started focusing more on acting and his ego.

[@RandomPenguin15]

I do like "Stuck" as a single, and I thought, "Well, if they are going to be a pop band now and all the songs are going to sound like this (Stuck), I will support them." Then I listened to the rest of the album, and it was lame, to say the least. This year, I had the opportunity to go to my first 30 seconds to Mars' show, and it was amazing listening to The Kill, Attack, Closer to the Edge, Up in the air, live. But I am not excited about them releasing new music anymore.

[@LIBERTYMarkAaron]

Saw them live on their first tour in 2000 and was blown away. Remained a superfan until after This Is War. What’s happened since then is tragic.

[@kimk.9683]

I went to the 30STM show since my husband and I are huge AFI fans. We weren’t big fans but wanted to give them a shot hoping they would be at least entertaining. We left after two songs. Thank you for validating my feelings on them. The whole crowd was packed though and enjoying the show. The whole cult thing is bizarre.

[@mix3k818]

30 Seconds To Mars being used for a cologne ad is insane

[@koregamer1996]

What song is used I can’t hear it?

[@kp1978]

That song on the Gucci ad wasn't Mars. It simply had JL starring in it. No Mars involvement whatsoever.

[@KasperK-su9oz]

Who the fuck wanna smell like Jared Leto? In his own words "boof" - Gucci movie, it's shit, don't watch it, he's horrible in it, got him a razzie nom.

[@jesuisunstroopwafel]

I'm more shocked by the lack of clone replacement theory. 2002 Jared would have called 2018 Jared a weirdo.

[@sixcrowsilver]

The first time I saw them was at a local music festival when I was in high school. They were a secondary act. It was right around the time the movie Panic Room came out in 2002. Anyway, they were easily one of the best performances at the festival, while being on a side stage. So I checked out their insanely good self titled album and was instantly hooked. Then A Beautiful Lie was incredible. But, like all bands I was a fan of around that time, they eventually had their radio friendly arena rock album which was pretty good, followed by everworsening drivel. They aren't a rock band anymore. But those first couple albums will always be legendary.

[@halfatrex4555]

Straight up didn't know they released an album last year. Like I had already stepped away when I found out about the cult stuff but I at least passively heard walk on water.

[@harukaze97]

This band used to be my everything when I was a teenager. I remember thinking Jared was so dedicated and humble and I really admired him back then. I took a step back after LLF+D realease. I listened to it, I liked it, but I could recognize even then that something's changed. I never even listened entirely to the next two albums. They could've been huge if Jared didn't let his ego get the best of him. And don't even get me started on the cult thing 🤦

[@texasvoodoo5696]

"This is War" is still one of my all-time favorite albums, but damn, WTF happened to this group after is just sad

[@KasperK-su9oz]

Tomo left and had probably already left spiritually before.

[@dirkjewitt5037]

Cool name for a band. It doesn't fit the vapid, empty sound coming out of them. It's like getting a Cadbury chocolate bar but after biting into it, you realize the tomfoolery and it's just a Hershey bar.

[@smushles19]

that actually happened to me many years ago when holidaying in the US of A. bought a Cadburys bar, bit into it, and *wham*, Hersheyfied.

[@dirkjewitt5037]

@@smushles19 Then you know how it feels. it feels like you've been cheated, doesn't it? Nickleback flat lines me.

[@Richard-d1y]

I'm confused. I'm British. Here Cadburys is middle of the road chocolate, but you are discussing it like it is something special. What's up?

[@smushles19]

@@Richard-d1y im British. Hersheys taste like rancid gone off chocolate, so getting that when you expect normal middle of the road chocolate is not great.

[@Richard-d1y]

@@smushles19 Never had it.

[@cameronmuise14]

The first album with Edge Of The Earth on it will always be their best

[@Stefan_Gerards]

will never get tired of seeing videos on their downfall! it's a shame because their first 2 albums are still really good, even This Is War and LLF&D are decent listens. but god those last 2 albums, on top of Jared Leto's insane ego..

[@frozyre7854]

Noticing a theme with former emo bands. They all peaked when they were in the thick of the scene. But as soon as they bled out because that scene is over, there is really only few directions that there is to take. A band could either adapt or fumble. And many did fumble due to not adapting. Then there's 30 Seconds to Mars where I had said one man's ego eclipsed the entire band. They were adapting and they might've still seen success post-emo. Then Jared and his brother got in the way.

[@samstevenson5328]

To be honest, the last time I really listened to these guys was way back in 2010. After “This is War” my focus began to drift from them. Glad it did because apparently that was their last solid album

[@mikethegrunty5968]

1:23 welp, Cologne is ruined forever.😂

[@RockedNet]

Jared Le-Toe

[@mikethegrunty5968]

@@RockedNet 😂😂😂

[@therocksocietyw]

They should rename 30STM to 30 Eternities To Making Something Good

[@MarconeAntelius]

"The love of art" got in the way after This is War. Rather than meaningful lyrics that reflected on life like on the first few albums they became more focused on the image and showing off.

[@SecretSocietyofGoths]

i went to their tour twice this summer but just to see our lord and savior davey havok. left right after

[@RockedNet]

AFI and Poppy are definitely strong support for a big tour.

[@SecretSocietyofGoths]

@RockedNet poppy fuckin blew me away. And then in austin and Dallas they had this kid named KennyHoopla who's definitely worth checking out

[@jarrettchristensen_music]

I went too, AFI and Poppy were worth it

[@jarrettchristensen_music]

@@SecretSocietyofGoths kennyhoopla was sick!

[@MTG980]

I really am not a big fan of their pop albums, maybe some hooks sounded nice but that was it. Still, when they came to play this year in Kombank Arena in Belgrade, I went to see them. As it was their first time visiting my country and we don't get many "big" bands visiting us often, if at all (at least not the ones I'm into). Despite everything I had a blast at the concert and really enjoyed hearing songs from the "Beautiful Lie" and "This Is War" era, also saw some wholesome moments in the crowd. I think they are still a great band live and I have hope that somewhere down the line they'll have their "we're so back" moment; the only real regret I have after seeing them now is not getting to see them way earlier in like the mid 2010's when I was a teen and they were still somewhat at their peak.

[@jakesmith6233]

I'm just hoping that this won't be Linkin Park in the future.

[@Volkaroar]

Actually it might be better for them if they did turn that way

[@evat514]

Feels like it’s headed that way…

[@Leon_SKennnedy]

I like one more light but that was pretty much it

[@dulffysuzan6015]

their very first album was such a banger ! OBLIVION anyone ?

[@EndingSniper101]

I only like The Kill from guitar hero and Edge of the Earth from NFS Hot Pursuit 2010

[@ultron374]

Same, their new stuff is not so good

[@bearminimum5408]

Very nice. Enjoyed this video.

[@gabby3406]

Shout out to Last Call With Carson Daley. He had a ton of indendent artists on his show and some that were just flying under the radar. He had a whole episode with Adele before she made it really big internationally.

[@miserirken]

30STM is the polar opposite to BMTH both musically and thematically these days.

[@JaredtheRabbit]

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

[@RockedNet]

A self-induced fall.

[@JaredtheRabbit]

@@RockedNet True…

[@thodoor5193]

Great video! Subbed

[@joeflood6870]

A Beautiful Lie helped me get through a tough time in high school where I felt alienated from my friends. Then a couple years later I bought This is War a few months after it came out. I had hit another low point in my freshman year of undergrad (the realization that college is a lot harder than high school lol), and that album represented a turning point for me. I bought Love Lust Faith + Dreams right before I left for grad school (actually the last physical CD I bought) and that was largely the soundtrack of my drive from Indianapolis to Seattle. "Do or Die" really resonated with the optimism I was feeling at that time. I remember not being that impressed when "Walk on Water" came out (I only bought the song on iTunes to put to a video I took of a goose walking on thin ice). Then I saw the cover for America and that killed any desire I had to buy it, and I'm fairly sex-positive. It was just clear to me that Jared's ego had gotten way too big. Can't say I was too surprised when I first saw the photos from the island...

[@jackaweplushpro]

Taylor Swift is more rock than modern 30STM, try to change my mind

[@amaryllis604]

And that's a reaaally low bar

[@AndI0td763]

That’s my main issue with them, the move away from rock based music. The turning down of the guitars, the synthetic sound, the lack of intensity. I knew Leto was self important, that doesn’t bother me as much.

[@jackaweplushpro]

@@amaryllis604 It's not that I hate Taylor (I don't listen to many of her songs, but I have nothing against her, it's just not my thing), but at least she uses real instruments.

[@jackaweplushpro]

@@AndI0td763 I haven't listened to much of them, but I've heard The Kill, and seeing how they've devolved into a band that makes modern Maroon 5 look like early Maroon 5 makes me sad

[@amaryllis604]

@@jackaweplushpro true that

[@gulleyrock]

Love Lust Faith + Dreams is when 30STM turned into an kitschy art side project for Leto.

[@JohnnyBurnes]

Beating Dragon Age Origins was weird.

[@tylerbailey9329]

Hearing "Stuck" in rotation on rock radio is an embarrassment

[@BrandonCroker]

I'll be honest, the only project I saw Leto in which turned out good was Lord of War where he played Nic Cage's brother. Good film and good performance, highly recommend. As far as his musical side, ehh, not that impressed from what I've heard.

[@koivunen2489]

It's Marsin' time!

[@kevinphillips3295]

Your take of this band is spot on. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing when America came out. It was the biggest bummer

[@chinedumjosiah4398]

This video accurately encapsulates my thoughts aboyt this band. A band I once loved to Oblivion...

[@schneir5]

Both of the first two albums were AMAZING! I remember buying both physical CD's and listening to them over and over.

[@Crow7878]

Loved the first three albums, thought the fourth album was a snoozer, and tuned out after it and it seems to have been a good time to tune-out. Closest thing I have to a hot take is that This Is War was the only album that had no songs that I skipped. Their self-titled album had "Buddha for Mary" which I always thought was a lyrically and musically uninteresting drag and A Beautiful Lie almost nailed it only for the final song "Hunter" to sour things on the way out. (Back in the olden days of KZbin before official uploads of songs were available, the stream of A Beautiful Lie I'd listen to just didn't include Hunter, I don't know if it was accidental or intentional, but it was a good idea.)

[@strangemolars]

"Was there a pivotal moment for this change?" *shows pineapple on pizza clip* "That; That is it."

[@Verociity]

I wish their emo phased lasted for at least another album or so, they changed so quick.

[@RoseKoneko]

This feels like the hard swerve Fallout Boy did. Loss of anything unique whatsoever, just lean into this new sound.

[@CometMasonTrucker]

hopefully 30STM can turn it around like FOB (and FOB at least was listenable when they got bad except maybe 2018 FOB)

[@RanterInShades]

There's hardly been a band that I've been as hesitant about the idea of seeing live with the reason not being because of lineup changes or old age than 30 Seconds to Mars.

[@balockaybumblebee]

The kill might still get played on the radio, but it's not even the real version. It's some pop friendly version with none of the harsh screaming parts. I change it instantly if it comes on. It's the way he does it live now and it sucks so bad. It's like being edged and never getting any payoff just left with blue balls. 😅

[@krissanders987]

1st 2 albums are awesome. It was heavier, had like an electronic rock prog sound. The later albums didn’t catch my attention. Oh and im with Jared Leto on pizza. Also extra pineapple and peppers on mine as well.

[@youraouibe]

honestly genuinely never heard much of them and still haven't every song clip you have outlined in this has sealed it, though. from genuinely mesmerising sounding and good asf music to... something i could make in 7 minutes??!?? it's saddening, even from an outsider. i can't imagine how the original fans feel

[@benroxknox]

I saw them in a tiny club back when their second album had just dropped. Great show! But honestly I don't even think of them anymore and didn't know they had an album released last year.

[@annetteperez8177]

I listened to their music then, I listen to their music now.

[@mosayebmohammadi5198]

I live in Prague and went to their concert here on May.2024; "This is the was" was the last album I listen to them and oh boy the concert was a mess. It was the lowest vocal performance of any I have ever saw. He was just basically swaying on the stage half naked in a white robe and try to be cool and I was wondering why he looks like this since I do not track social medial. now I know why! Mars-Island ??? really ?? lecturing for thousands of single women in cult-manner?

[@tacoenvy]

Really enjoyed their first couple albums, but now.. meh, not good at all.

[@adamalday01]

Self Title was top-notch

[@albertob_1112]

totally agree, luckily I can still listen to works from over ten years ago without thinking about what they have become now

[@leviathan_is_me]

Well, we know Jared Leto saw THIS one at least, lol.

[@JennaLeigh]

Really love this format! I loved 30STM in the 2000s but definitely "lost touch" with them, so to speak. Did not realize how far theyve gone. To be fair, Im old enough to be a Jared Leto fangirl from watching him as Jordan Catalano on "My So-Called Life". Even then, Jared Leto had a bit of a rep as a self important d-bag.

[@jamesjeffrey525]

I totally agree with you. I really love the first three albums and still listen to them occasionally. I checked out their last three albums but didn't buy them. Latest album is especially uninteresting musically or lyrically. If they try something interesting, I will give it a try in the future, but not holding my breath.

[@arieltkotz4877]

I didn't knew 30 seconds was still making new music...

[@raym1477]

The biggest thing that bothers me about 30STM (aside from the cult stuff) is Jared's brother's Vulcan eyebrows.

[@miropaananen5135]

I feel the same way haven't even listened their newest album. 2. 3. Best 4. Ok but the evrything after just sounds a bit odd. Just saw them live thou and they where amazing.

[@docdave15]

I'd love to see you do more retrospective on bands. Not necessarily "downfalls" but just looking over a band or artist's career.

[@chris_sharp18]

I still play the first 2 albums and can only dream of what could have been

[@negardanaeifard6166]

I went to their concert recently because it was the first time ever I had the chance and also because I checked and they played a pretty good selection of their older songs (although it’s sad that they don’t play anything from their first album) the show was pretty good but their last two albums are really bad!